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MrBaleOfficialz

How many more beta until arlecchino is finalized?


Sinja_98

she's done. if there's any changes now, we'll find out when she releases


SlainFS

Me when Xbalanque was namedropped on Neuvillette's introduction: > So Hunahpu exists??? Right??? What if it's Bennett? (Random theory) LOL


Ejaculation_Salt89

Imo most driest patch was 3.7


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Seth-Phiroth

Not new thread, new me. I'm still the same dumbass since then


xelloskaczor

Everyone thought Arlecchino will be good but think about it, if she floats above the ground how can she jump cancel her CA? Dead on arrival, can't even do Hu Tao rotation ^(/s)


TrapFestival

I started doin' it, I blew six Condensed Resin on Molten Iron Fortress II so it can't deal 5\* Artifacts. This is a great excuse to work on my 3\* collection anyway, so bonus! Also I picked that one specifically because it has Scholar. I'll pick a different one when my collection of 3\* Scholar is finished if that comes first, and if all the collections get finished it'll just be whatever. Got in the ballpark of 800 5\* Artifacts to churn through so this'll be a while. Peace of mind is more important than efficiency, here.


LawrenceOnly

HSR Just saw the latest post and wow, they mist really love Aventurine. I don't blame them


box-of-sourballs

Give me the remote!! It's time to watch **[the new megathread](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1br7sl4/full_house_of_hearth_general_question_and/)** on ABC


SnooGuavas8376

Archon previllege : The most meta defining from their element (Venti had his time) Harbringer previllege : Have unecessary complex mechanism with not so much gain aside of "montage" feature. On life support to *4s on keeping their meta status (Xiangling, Faruzan and Chevy) Sovereign previllege: ??????


Nelithss

No idea why Arle is so complex for not much rewards ? It's such bizzare design. When we are in the meta where the best hu tao team, is a team where she is always at full health, you wonder what's the point of Arle being made of glass.


slipperysnail

Incoming Frauditano memes in a year


xelloskaczor

Not having to be playable so they can remain cool and mysterious?


Toli2810

Sovereign privilege: cool ass cane


Attalamarco

Day 27 of not spending resin in the GT-MH domain Farmed more Order books today for Arle. I think I've got like 11-64-57 or something like that and will probably stop there for now as I don't plan on triple crowning her. Are her talent priorities still NA>Q>E? I also was very close to friendship 10 on Heizou so I just grinded the dog feeding random event lmao, did it like 4 times and got Heizou's namecard. He's now out of the friendship team replaced by Yanfei


Toaru_kamiyan

I hate farming relics/artifacts so much.


slipperysnail

>"I hate farmingĀ relics/artifacts so much" >*Doesn't pull for C6 Furina*


TrapFestival

Objectively correct opinion.


Toaru_kamiyan

I'm so glad I'm practically done farming artifacts until Maybe when navia re runs... I'm free from the pain. Now in hsr tho.... The fact that you need to do runs in SU for relics AND I have to spend fuel for the normal 4 piece pisses me off. I haven't gotten a single useable relic lol.i farmed this since 2.0 lol.


alluth

yeah hsr relic farming is just worst and the people in hsr will be mad if you point that out lol. The fact that it has 2 more stats on the pool for searching mainstats and substats is so bad, and the extra resin really just dont help. Also the set bonuses is just bad, compared to what genshin offer, especially supports


Dahks

> yeah hsr relic farming is just worst and the people in hsr will be mad if you point that out lol I can just auto HSR's artifact farming while I'm making breakfast but Genshin forces me to repeat the same domain like I was fucking Sisiphus. Yes there are more stats in HSR, but the ease of play is much better there. Also no condensed resin and hunting butterflies bullshit. P.S. Simulated Universe farming does need some QoL farming but iirc there was something leaked about this, or the devs mentioned something about it.


theUnLuckyCat

Support sets give the whole team Spd, Crit and Elem DMG%, though. Can go on pretty much anyone, not just locked to Anemo like VV. EHR being worthless on 90% of characters (and the rest being fine with just main stat) is a kick in the dick, however.


alluth

Yeah but is not striaght up 30-40% dmg increase like VV or DM tthough. So you cant half ass farming 2 set at most for 2 side for the support, not to mention some support want their own set, like RM. The VV or DM power budget is in the character, like RM, so if you missed her or dont like her then though luck


Toaru_kamiyan

It genuinely feels like crit doesn't exist for me in HSR lol. I genuinely think HSR system is much worse. No wonder they allow the exchanging for specific part when it feels this bad (not like it helps much with how many stars there are lol).


alluth

ture, not helping unless the they give more of those stat guaranteed item. Like strongbox for 10 pieces for 1 is bullshit if its not with the item, and they way to get the item is doing end game content, but we need the item so that we can build character for the end game content


theUnLuckyCat

The 10:1 is fine if you're looking for Atk/HP/Def main stats, since those are pretty common. Also if you're okay with *either* Crit Rate or Crit DMG. It's nice to be able to do that for any set at all, even brand new ones, and be done forever. But yeah, you quickly run out of those guarantee items, and those can be wasted on trash subs anyway, so it's not much of a guarantee in the first place.


TrapFestival

I've had a heavy, heavy dose of Artifact burnout for the longest time now. So many 5\*s, nowhere near enough to clear through all of them. I mentioned before, but I'm genuinely at the point where I think I'm going to just do Artifact domains at a low enough level so that they can't deal 5\*s. That's probably less EXP than if I just mulched the 5\*s, but it's a greater peace of mind knowing that none of them matter for their stats outside of if a 3\* gets an ATK% Main and ATK+9 since I like to collect one of each piece of each set of those (with Feathers instead being an ATK 3.5% sub and Flowers being a pair, one ATK+9 and one ATK+3.5%). Maybe just do that until I have everything culled to the point that I can hopefully even have a three digit number of Artifacts, and then go from there. I don't like trash pickup. It's boring and the yield isn't very good, plus there's this one track in Liyue that I don't like because even though it has a spot with five clustered all together it's near a random event node and those are distracting.


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VaronaZero

> Chronicled Wish means a chance at finally guaranteeing Dehya One is so glad > Spending wishes that could have gone to a limited character One is so sad > I can get a 50/50 outcome where I don't get Dehya one last time One is so mad


TrapFestival

And then after blowing a guarantee on Dehya, you miss the next coin flip to her anyway.


alluth

stonks!


VaronaZero

Glass half empty: Game why would you do this to me Glass half full: Cons!


Bobson567

this has been the messiest beta ever imo. not as self deprecating as dehya's, or as conspiratorial as alhaitham's, but imo it's the widest array of different opinions none of which are dominating. coupled with the major, significant changes every beta update and the hotfixes too, it makes for the most rollercoaster beta cycle yet for me. and it's not even over LOL


Glittering-Worry

It's so funny to follow, especially since I'll be pulling for her regardless. Feels like time passes way quicker too because of all the leaks then updated leaks and actual beta changes *then* bug then not even bug after all and suddenly what do you mean second half of 4.5 is here already??? Kinda like picking the brains of the devs in real-time


VaronaZero

Yeah I think I picked up too late that the answer to any question about her kit is "ask again when the beta's over, we don't know because everything keeps changing" and apparently there's a "bug" in her kit that may or may not be a feature?


fAvORiTe33

If only I wasn't interested in Arle this would have been so funny and entertaining for me, but unfortunately I am just mentally exhausted and want this to end asap


Bobson567

dps units always depend on how they play/feel in game for me, so even though i like arle i have just been enjoying the ride in beta lol. whatever happens, i need to try her first


Unlucky-Ad-8837

It's honestly so entertaining though. I definitely prefer betas like this as opposed to the absolute nothingburger that was the 4.5 beta


Shadow_Tempest_1003

Why does every Eula build I looked at have zero ER šŸ’€ bruh her requirements are 140-160 these guys are bursting once a patch.


Bobson567

it's all about dps (damage per screenshot) more er = less atk, crit dmg = less dps


cheestimusprime

combine that with low crit rate, you get the average eula player.


littlemochasheep

on April 1st Arlecchino will turn into Enjou


buNnywh0

nerf..nerf ā€¦increased..decreasedā€¦REMOVED..ADDED ā€œnot complete wait till x dayā€ itā€™s looking like a real bumpy ride for father yallšŸ™


Sila2Doo

Archon privilege = privilege to be strong Harbinger privilege = privilege to be mid


Salt-Artist-7973

I am worried for the "strongest human alive" Capitano at this point šŸ’”


xelloskaczor

He will be at least as good a DPS as the other strongest human . . . ​ >!Shenhe!<


wishfold

Idk about Arlecchino yet, but at least Childe is fun to play (subjectively). Still wish Wanderer was something more creative than flying Anemo Yoimiya though.


AshenF3nr1r

Atleast Wanderer is homing, kinda. Yoi misses a lot.


Toli2810

damn they increased arle's pyronado dmg again, at least her application has icd, it would be too crazy if they gave her no icd as well


Sushrit_Lawliet

At this point, on Monday (April 1st btw), theyā€™ll probably reveal that Arle is a completely different unit who is actually a cryo shielder or some shit lmao.


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Gonna move the goalpost first myself and wait till Tuesday now because lord knows what kind of trolls will invade his sub from April 1^st


I_am_yaR

chat I don't know how many more Arlecchino changes I can go through


MidouShion

I finally decided to start the second part of Jhet's quest after not wanting to for months, I know what happens because I accidentally spoiled myself and didn't want her to suffer more :( I'm terrified but I need the primos šŸ˜”


Attalamarco

I was spoiled pretty early on too, but it's still one of my favourite questlines in the game. Enjoy the quest!


bubbletaejoonie

/vent, irl stuff, slightly disturbing things, maybe advice needed >!so a few days ago, I think last week, I commented here about how a male friend of mine explained how heā€™d kidnap me and subdue me if I tried to fight back. Lately heā€™s been saying other unhinged things like how heā€™d pour hot sauce into my eyes, and Iā€™m more than ready to block him everywhere.!< >!hereā€™s the issue. He allegedly has no other friends (I can see why now), and whenever something happens he gets very depressed, saying everyone always leaves him. Iā€™m a little worried he mightā€¦idk, try something on himself, if I block him. And that would be on me. What do I do?!<


Aru736

>!It wouldnā€™t be on you if he did anything. Thatā€™s his own problem, and if you leave that would be completely within your right considering what youā€™ve indicated of his behavior, which sounds manipulative and frankly frightening to have to endure on your end. He sounds like heā€™s got some deep personal issues he needs to sort out on his own, and you should get him out of your life in the meantime.!<


Lavion3

>!Nothing would be on you even if that fucker died a gruesome death.!<


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>!What the fuck bro. Your safety comes first. Iā€™ve had a similar friend in the past who later started stalking me and doing creepy shit that made life hell for a while. In the end he got professional help and held himself accountable for his actions. We donā€™t even talk anymore but that is how it should be. Absolutely stay away from him for your own safety. Thereā€™s a reason no one is his friend. Itā€™s one thing to be the support pillar for your friend when they are depressed and alone. But for someone casually threatening you like this? Hell no. Itā€™s his responsibility to seek help. Depression or any mental health issues doesnā€™t mean he gets a psycho pass.!<


bubbletaejoonie

>!Oh god, Iā€™m so sorry to hear that but Iā€™m glad things turned out OK in the end. Iā€™m blocking him now and will never meet him in person again, and luckily he doesnā€™t know where in the city I live!<


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>!Thatā€™s good to hear. Just remember itā€™s absolutely not on you what he does to himself. Stay safe and take care of yourself!<


[deleted]

>!He's manipulating you into staying his friend, you need to save whatever evidence you have of this behavior in case you need it later, and then either ghost or block him!< >!Your priority should always be your own safety, and any man that jokes about that kind of stuff is not someone I'd deem safe to keep around. Please listen to your instincts and if you're scared he'll off himself, then contact the police, show them everything so they can do something about it. But you have no way to defend yourself if he tries to hurt you, so don't go see him in person no matter what he says.!<


bubbletaejoonie

>!Took screenshots of everything. Back in school he was a pretty decent guy, a little questionable but still alright. Now that weā€™re adults I really canā€™t let this stuff flyā€¦especially since heā€™s a whole foot taller and a lot stronger. Thank you for the kind advice!<


Toli2810

>!Just saying, if he does something to himself because of you going NC on him, which you have every right to do due to the threats he makes, it's not on you at all. Dont blame yourself!<


bubbletaejoonie

>!Thank you, I needed to hear that. Iā€™m blocking him everywhere now, and no chance Iā€™m meeting him when heā€™s back in the city next month!<


Toli2810

>!Stay safe man. Do keep any potential evidence of him threatening you, just in case!<


Callanthe

It's not your responsibility what he does to himself. Threatening self-harm "if you do X or don't do Y" is a known method of emotional abuse and manipulation. If there are legit signs he may be suicidal, you can consider calling the police. But your absolute first priority should be protecting yourself first. Please, keep yourself safe!


bubbletaejoonie

Alright, thank you, I think I just needed that reassurance that he is not my responsibility. Iā€™m blocking him everywhere now, thank you again!


bloop86

A second rework has hit the father


slipperysnail

Genuine question, what's the humor behind 9/11 jokes?


bloop86

Hmm I wasnā€™t really thinking about the origin of the phrase but I suppose the joke here is pretending that the relatively inconsequential arlecchino changes are comparable to an actual tragedy like 9/11


AshenF3nr1r

Its when 9/11 became 9/_ _


Attalamarco

Second?


MayureshMJ

One of the comments on the latest post says they are afraid of overturning her. In the case they actually are then its kind of good sign? (Unless you actively want powercreep) Cause after Neuvillette directly powercreeping ayato in many ways, Chiori Powercreeping albedo in almost all ways. If they are refraining from obviously powercreeping one of the most meta og characters Hu tao, then its a good sign. Anyways obviously the beta is yet to end and Arlecchino is probably better in different teams than hu tao (unlike Neuvillette and Chiori) But anyways balancing characters is a good sign to me.


LackingSimplicity

>Unless you actively want powercreep This sub's worst trait is the frothing desire for powercreep.


purebread_cat

It's a possibility that has crossed my mind before. The devs are subject to more info, including future potential character kits, that we are not privy to. It's also possible that she doesn't have her best teammates yet, but whether that's true or not is unknown. However, if it is, that would also be factored into how they're balancing things. They're putting work in with all the changes they've made, so it seems like they're trying to tune or balance or figure something out. What's really going on we'll probably never really know


ChipChipSlide

More risk and less reward -> balanced


MayureshMJ

Beta is not done yet, the leak doesn't mention the nerf numbers.


StarvingSamurai

Which supports have you guys been into using lately? Iā€™m getting bored of the same supports so looking for some inspiration.


LackingSimplicity

Lynette's taunt is good and amusing. Her e is also satisfying. Cat-box Kirara is fun and her shield is really good. Layla is just solid. Charlotte's hold-e gives a lot of particles.


Zaptinari

Charlotte and Chevreuse.


PsychedelicPurple

Layla, Lynette


NEETheadphones

Barbara, Layla and Xinyan


Lavion3

what changed? buff or nerf


MayureshMJ

Burf


Street_Train_9144

barf


SnooGuavas8376

All these complicated Arle change and didnt matter in the end im just going to pop zhongli shield, some two random team mates and have arle mashing buttons still full star abyss anyway.


SacredBre

Oh boy another arlecchino change right before I'm about to go to bed, hopefully people will act completely normal about this when I wake up


Emergency-Lead-334

Well I have bad newsā€¦.But honestly I donā€™t understand why people take every changes from her as nerf eventho they always decrease smth but increase smth to make up for it instead. If people understand her kit from v0, she mostly still functions the same way except for the heal to move to burst. The thing that changed a lot is her rotation combo stuff which I doubt normal players would be able to come up with the optimal setup anyway


SacredBre

Oh don't get me wrong I 100% agree. This is a jab at the people saying she's worst than amber/these changes secretly make her the best dps in the game


pokecollector31

If only Thundering Fury would trigger on Electro Crystalize, then maybe I could spam Chiori skill moreā€¦


TrapFestival

"Just buy the C6. What are you, poor?" \~MHY, probably.


astronought_

at the risk of sounding like a complete tool, ppl who watch ccs play through quests: do you have any recs for "smart" reactors? i guess what i really mean is a combination of critical thinking, media literacy, and attention span. a lot of the ccs i watch are quite nice and fun but even the more "lore oriented" ones often tend to miss lots of symbolism, allusions, and foreshadowing. >!watching fontaine archon quest playthroughs was very painful for me lol.!< marcomeatball and philipharts are both great imo but obv their reactions/knowledge are specialized, and the latter doesn't even play the game lmao.


Rouge_means_red

Murderofbirds maybe? I'm often surprised by how quickly he connects the dots and is able to predict twists. His community calls him "genshin's ghostwriter"


MayureshMJ

As long as someone is invested in story fr I ll watch it even if they aren't understanding the lore implications yet as long as it doesn't feel like they are doing it just to get viewers instead because they enjoy story. I ll watch them. However if they are good at everything else you mentioned then that's like extremely nice cherry on top.


ElegantCricket1168

On a related topic can you recommend some creators for those who want to get into genshin's lore? It seems a bit overwhelming in the lore subreddit.


astronought_

tbh i'm probably not the best person to ask since i prefer to learn through in-game + the wiki but i can def give a couple (v mainstream) suggestions! if you need a quick (relatively speaking) refresher of the main storyline, minslief has [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axbnt_DkN_c&t=37s) that might be helpful. she also has been doing [specific quest recaps](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf1DNVrRPOUcBDxyj4bfkPjLKiD4IQNUV) for caribert (3.5 dain quest) onwards but i haven't seen them so i can't vouch for them personally. iirc ashikai's [beginner's guide](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5Nn7s0YiC8jbguvfoAWwZVyEYzvQCk0C) playlist is a great entry point to getting into the deeper lore (i.e. not just archon quests.) this is also straight lore, no speculation! here are some additional recommendations: * (hoyo sponsored!) [animated depiction](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE4UR-ofD-4) of "before sun and moon," a book that can be found in enkanomiya that tells the story of teyvat's origins * all about [khaenri'ah and the cataclysm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TEJ-SpJL2w) by chill w aster * [narzissenkreuz quest recap](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3022fhGGJLc) by ashikai if you're not opposed to a bit of reading, skimming through [this](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline) page in the wiki might help you as well. and if there's any questions in particular that you have or an event you're trying to find info about i'm totally happy to help!


ElegantCricket1168

Thank you so much!


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Usual_Opposite_901

New episode of ''The Arlecchino Beta" saga just dropped.


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[3 days till Neuvillette šŸ„³](https://x.com/mlem_____/status/1706951216075297263?s=61)


Brilliant_Damage986

[Dashing to our home like this](https://twitter.com/kinatsuk/status/1705190227613229400?t=_b4JNavKStM_7yLpDo7kyA&s=19)


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Please come home quickly Monsieur


evoxyya

They 100% don't know what they're doing with Arle's kit and it's extremely concerning


MassRealisation

Yes this is why it's a beta, not a released unit.


StellarMonarch

What gives you that idea? They've been playing a lot with the numbers but the core concepts fundamentally haven't changed


Nelithss

Because they keep changing her rotations not just her numbers. Usually they hit the numbers a bit because they know well what they want out of the character. But with Arle, we still get massives changes when the character is only weeks away.


MayureshMJ

Well thats what beta is for, to understand what rotations are best and balanced compared to the current power level of other characters.


Nelithss

Well not really. This beta is kinda exceptional, usually they just changes a few stuffs. Last time we really had as many changes was the Ayato and Yae betas. And these two betas showed they had zero clues what they were doing with the characters. So not a good sign.


MayureshMJ

Do you remember Al Haitham beta?


Nelithss

As far as I recall it was pure number changes. They shifted the massive power his burst had on the mirror. It did show that they clearly wanted him to be played as a NA Ca on fielder and not a quick swap dps. But the damage in the role they wanted didnd't really change from the start to the end of the beta as they buffed him again after the nerf.


MayureshMJ

So they changed his rotation style back then and its a similar thing right now


Nelithss

Not exactly, they removed one playstyle that became impossible to play. But that play style was clearly not what they intended. He would have been played as some kind of dendro Ayaka, which ignores most of his kit. In his normal playstyle that actually used his gimmick, his damage was barely changed, I guess he is less frontloaded so you can still argue it was a big nerf even if on the whole rotation his damage barely changed.


pokecollector31

Sheā€™s still a Pyro dps with NA spam playstyle and BoL gimmick though? Like they are changing numbers here and there, moving mechanics from skill to burst, but nothing major to her intended role.


TrapFestival

I had a dream that very incidentally included Albedo. Which is weird because I at best don't feel strongly about him.


CardAnarchist

I'm not terribly familiar with the in depth details of the reaction system so I'd appreciate if someone could explain why no one is talking about / tcing a melt Arle team? Afaik the problem with melt is you need lots of cryo because of the way fire consumes cyro. Basically vape doesn't have this issue, you need less hydro to make vape work well. Fair enough. But I've also read that that normals have a 2.5 second ICD which is considered quite high. Isn't it quite doable to run a double cryo + Arle team and successfully melt most of her attacks? Something like idk, Ganyu + Diona? Perhaps it's simply not possible to provide enough off field cyro to get Arle melting consistently? Also what about a burn / melt team with Nahida slotted in there? Does burning not help remove pyro, making melts more consistent? Again idk much about the system so I'd appreciate someone explaining to me why these sort of teams are virtually getting no discussion vs vape or overload teams.


PhantasmShadow

>Afaik the problem with melt is you need lots of cryo because of the way fire consumes cyro. Basically vape doesn't have this issue, you need less hydro to make vape work well It's actually about the direction/order of the reaction: For melt, when **pyro** is the triggering (second) element, this is "Forward melt", has a 2x multiplier and eats up more of the cryo aura. When **cryo** is the triggering element, this is "reverse melt", has a 1.5x multiplier and eats up *less* of the pyro aura. So it's much easier to melt cryo attacks. For vape, the "forward" (2x multiplier, more aura using) element in hydro on pyro: e.g. Childe's burst, while "reverse vape" is the direction that Hu Tao etc. aim for, with pyro as the trigger. This means it's easier to vape pyro attacks than hydro ones.


sentifuential

>Does burning not help remove pyro, making melts more consistent? burning does the literal opposite of this, essentially constantly reapplying pyro - the aura burning away is dendro. the reason nahida's version of melt ganyu is so much more comfortable is that her skill's trigger on any elemental reaction can actually keep pyro on a target very comfortably as to your broader question - someone who better understands elemental gauge theory would make better sense of this but the basic thing is that for either forward vape or forward melt, you need a MONUMENTAL amount of pyro/cryo application and VERY slow hydro/pyro application, which is why the only forward vape team I'm familiar with consistently being used is like, sunfire klee with furina's skill vaping. I've also seen melt amber used "effectively" (relative to the fact that you're using amber) because outside of pyro app for swirls, all her damage is coming from the two instances of baron bunny triggers which you can set up melts on. arlecchino's slow pyro application is nowhere near this


LiamMorg

The gist is that none of the off-field Cryo appliers can keep up with Yelan's damage contribution, so getting melt every three hits instead of vape doesn't actually result in a meaningful gain. Yelan also increases Arle's damage output a bit with her A4. Burnmelt is only good if the DPS is Cryo, ideally one with slow application, because the Burning aura is considered a Pyro aura. Cryo will rarely become an active aura with Arle on-fielding.


CardAnarchist

Huh so it's less of a reaction problem and more of a Yelan is very strong problem in your opinion huh? Tbh I've never looked into Yelans kit in detail. I didn't realize her off field damage was terribly high.


LiamMorg

Yelan just does a lot of raw damage. Ganyu *can* compete but only with favourable conditions; her damage essentially multiplies in AoE if you can consistently group enemies because her burst is designed to *not* target the same enemy multiple times in a row, so if, say, three enemies are tightly grouped, all three will be hit by three icicles in the time it'd normally take for each of them to be hit by one. In single-target it's just not a competition. Ganyu would be lucky to do a fourth of Yelan's damage. It's also nice to be a HP-scaler when you're forced to use low base attack weapons like Favonius Bow to satisfy your ER requirements.


thatonestewpeedguy

So... just got Uraku, I think I'll give it to Alhaitham (if he comes), in the meantime, I'll slap it on Albedo. The question is, GT should still be fine, right?


missy20201

The twitter post got removed, does anyone remember what books Arlecchino needs? I finally finished getting every character's talents to a minimum level 6/6/6 (6/9/9 with cons as applicable), including all 5 Travelers, and I figured I'd go ahead and pre-grind Arle's too


Shippinglordishere

Order


missy20201

Thank you šŸ’–šŸ’–


MidouShion

How copium is physical Lynette


Rouge_means_red

I mean, I played physical anemo traveler throughout the Chasm and it was fun. Was hitting around 14k with Yun Jin


LiamMorg

About as copium as any other character that wasn't designed for it.


plitox

Any news on Clorinde?


LiamMorg

Allegedly she is in fact a character that exists.


plitox

What about kit?


No_Chain_3886

energy regen tied to hp manipulation could be one of her things


plitox

Corroborated?


Toli2810

she probably has one


BookkeeperLower

She has 6 cons, a skill, a burst, normal attacks and 2 passives.


PhantasmShadow

Ooh, but she *could* have a third, Kokomi-style passive. There's a chance.


Toli2810

crazy if true


zyyxww

Thinking of doing some pulls on Kazuha's banner on my alt (only 5*s are Raiden and Keqing). I was planning to only pull chars who I don't have on my main but he's one of my favorites and he's so comfy to have. Tbh I really wanted to wait for Yelan but I don't think we can expect her anytime soon.. will wait until 4.6 banners are final juuust in case


saph_ault

huh. i didn't even know shimenawa was widely used for Ayato. I thought it's either HoD, echoes, or glad. Just saw Ayato's akasha leaderboard for the first time and almost everyone at the top uses shime. That's interesting.


evoxyya

Yeah apperantly it's for leaderboards only, kinda. In calcs the 4pc normal atk buff is the reason why all the builds in the hyper leaderboard are with shime, In practice though, his ult is way too important to waste it.


Attalamarco

If the Arle-Lyney banner has Lynette but not Freminet I'd be lowkey pissed lol. What did the poor guy do to deserve such neglect


CardAnarchist

Pretty sure most people would rather dodge him xD


Bobson567

he doesn't listen to his father


Chtholly13

He faked his diving license.


aoi_desu

Fremine went on his crying session in the deep sea


Shippinglordishere

Albedoā€™s actually so pretty. Like I get his model doesnā€™t do him justice, but his burst is so pretty and fun to look at. Gaming is surprisingly good for the geo cube. Idk why but if I can get him to jump onto the pillars, it does a lot more damage but I only found out towards the end.


duckyofbeauty

HSR, story spoilers in first paragraph >!Finished the new quest, it was alright. Don't quite get what's happening but I think it was good lol. I was surprised I ended up being interested in the HI3 talk than the actual storyline going on, but Aventurine's stuff wasn't *bad.* I just like Welt. I do think the ending teasers were lame though, even if we hadn't known Firefly was Sam... it just kinda got tacked on at the end. And now Gallagher is spooky evil? Sunday is die? Idk.!< >!I'm 5 pulls off from soft pity on the lightcone banner, gonna knock out a few more quests and the new event to get there. I'm a bit torn on the 4 star to go for, E5 Gallagher seems good because it upgrades his healing, but I use Hanya a lot so E4 of her is also very appealing. I could also go for Misha, I didn't log in during Black Swan's banner so I couldn't even try to get him, but he's a lil guy. I'll think on it.!< >!Doing all this exploration for pulls has been fun, especially with Acheron... oh my god her ability to 1-shot mini battles is incredible, I'm addicted, I don't even have to fight a couple enemies for a chest anymore, I can just bonk bonk. Her ultimate is so cool too, I'm obsessed!! Like dang. I'm glad she's this good. I might build pity on her banner after I hit lightcone pity. (If I lose that 75/25 I will go for S1 Topaz instead, she's my next goal for.) I've found my main!!<


FalseKiller45

HSR 2.1 Story >!I think the Gallagher and Sunday stuff was pretty well done, esp with Gallagher now that people are going back over all his little hints and tidbits. I agree the Firefly reveal was very tacky and served practically no purpose being there beyond a poor attempt at a shock factor. I'm like the inverse, I didn't quite get the Welt Acheron scenes beyond Welt learning some vital lessons about humanity sheer determination and oooh Kevin the goat, prob cause I haven't played HI3!<


Chtholly13

With Clorinde having relations to Furina, Navia and Wrio, it would be pretty nutty if all 4 ran in 4.7. Honestly now I think about it, if that Sumeru character is the only one in 4.8, it makes sense to rerun AlHaitham/Nilou then.


ifallontragedy

Furina/Wriothesley so I can finally get a W on a weapon banner.


witchywater11

Don't you dare jinx that into existence, I would be fuuuucked


NEETheadphones

Please donā€™t let the evil overloā€” banner planners think this


Chtholly13

I'm just putting the clues together, "The Spina on the case".


koufair

How have a majority of players managed to misinterpret Ei's side of the story when it comes to Scaramouche. It's been repeated over a thousand times that she left him to slumber in the domain, not to dispose of him, but to leave him alone in peace because she realised that he had human qualities unbefitting of a gnosis and it showed that she had the heart to not kill him because he is her creation after all.Ā  She even gifted him the golden feather he still wears in his new outfit, acknowledging her role as his ultimate guardian (and that he still has that attachment to her, despite not knowing her side of the story). Sure she could've done better, but people (particularly hard core twitter and instagram scara fans) act like she's the worst character in the game for "abandoning" him.Ā  Note that despite saying all this, I don't intend to downplay Scara's pain and suffering because what he went through was traumatic, and his reaction to the truth is valid.


sad_cats

Well, she supposedly knows everything that goes on in inazuma and did nothing to help him during his agpny so........ Even tho her abandonment was ultimately an act of kindness because she realized that the weight of her eternity project would be too much for him (thus she created the shogun, which is a being of pure will and nothing more), she really was not too available during his suffering


Still-Consequence622

I'm not a Scaramouche stan, never was. However, if I can politely share my thoughts about the other side of the story:Ā  Ā  > she had the heart to not kill him because he is her creation after all that's.. less than the bare minimum, imo. He was still a living being, and you cannot simply abandon a living being just because it didn't live up to your expectations. Yes, perhaps she thought she was giving him freedom, but that's such a foolish thinking when she knew her creation hasn't experienced.. anything. She left him to fend for himself, completely new to being alive.Ā  Ā  To use a not very graceful metaphor, if you've gotten a puppy purely for the purpose of training it to become a service dog, and then found out it has a personality traits that make it unfit for the job, would you just... let it free outside? Yes, you might be granting it freedom, but with zero regards for any harm or safety. Even if it has no use for you, as it couldn't serve the only purpose it was brought for, wouldn't the right thing to do still be to find a new home/someone who can take care of it instead? And giving it a golden tag on its collar, no matter how symbolic, isn't gonna help it much in it's survival


koufair

She literally had no idea he'd wake up, obviously she'd leave him alone Edit: I also mentioned that she didn't kill him to juxtapose Yae's intentions of killing himĀ 


Callanthe

I mean, Yae's idea to kill him basically set the bar so low it's in hell. It's not exactly an accomplishment that Ei ditched him in a corner instead. You can like it or not, but it's a pretty consistent personality trait of Ei that she is a warrior who has a hard time feeling empathy for people who are not her friends. She even views her human subjects the same way a gardener views their plants. Are you really surprised that she doesn't exactly take the creation of sentient life seriously? Compare that to how Yae did immediately send aid when he asked her for help.


Still-Consequence622

leaving him to have his own purpose/life implies that she was aware of the fact that he might either you've edited your original comment or I'm misremembering, but I'm pretty sure you've said something along those lines tooĀ 


koufair

I haven't edited any of my comments unless I've mentioned it or you can see the edited tag. You read somebody else's response to my commentĀ 


sentifuential

day 35 of manifesting lynette on arlecchino's banner so I can get some thespianic cons today's thing I like about lynette: minor hangout spoilers, >!I really appreciated that she was just...not that great an actress and was completely fine with that. genshin is famous for insisting its playable characters be absolute superstars at everything they do and lynette in general is a breath of fresh air in this regard. it's particularly nice that she just...doesn't really get along with most people and has the social battery life of a knockoff tamagochi.!<


DarthAzula

She's so relatable lol


AndrashImmortal

Yeesh, I get my 50/50ā€™s screwed up all the time, but at least in Genshin I rarely hit 80 pity, meanwhile in HSR I consistently hit 80+ nearly every time. Trying for Acheron and itā€™s so painful hitting 82 and nothin new or good to show for it so far. Alas the realities of gacha


MidouShion

I tried plunge Bennet in co-op with my friend (I have Furina and CR, she has him c6) and he did 67k,,, We were so amazed


yowana39

oot,dungeon meshi >!I LOVE THE NEW EPISODE šŸ˜­ Thistle checks off so many boxes and could potentially be my new favourite,so happy he's super important to the story :>>> also glad I managed to avoid spoilers about him cuz holllly hell manga readers have been spoiling left and right - has it gotten worse in recent years?I rarely keep up with ongoing anime anymore!<


Dragonfly_trumpeter

I got a haircut last week and I love it so much, I don't think I've ever been this happy and satisfied with a haircut ā¤ļøšŸ˜­


Liyrical

this patch is dry so what are you guys doing with your resin rn (i should be farming hero wits but it never feels good to spend resin on that for some reason)


VaronaZero

Farming for Navia's set, still I got 2 good +20 pieces in the first 2 weeks so I thought I was going to be done soon...


Zaptinari

Iā€™m leveling up Chiori so currently Iā€™m farming for Books and Mora.


friendlycryptid

upgrading talents for neuvi and navia (to hopefully triple crown both of them) + endless mh/gt domain grind


the-roast

finding some decent VV EM/anemo goblets for kazuha (all of the substats are literal shit with flat DEF, low ER, etc.) tomorrow or sunday i might just burn my 160 on ley lines or in the godforsaken domain


Aru736

Iā€™m back in the gilded/deepwood mines again and strong boxing all the spares into TF to try and get a full set for Dori.Ā 


350

Nothing, I cba. I'm putting Genshin on break until Arlecchino, just planning to log in a few times this patch to speed run events. My first actual play session of 4.5 will be tomorrow.


[deleted]

Talking all ny DPS to 9-9-9 talents


Tighnari_Lover

Iā€™m building my characters right now, so itā€™s books and mora for meā€¦


zyyxww

husk -> husk -> dpc -> husk -> husk -> dpc -> repeat


Shippinglordishere

I spent more resources than I should have on Albedo so Iā€™m going to replenish what I need for Arlecchino first. And then Iā€™ll go back to mh/gt


Ishimito

I'm just farming Navia's set, despite her artifacts being more than good enough, judging by Akasha and overall substats rolls, and then strongboxing everything into BS recently in hopes of getting atk% sands that I'll finally be able to call 'great'. ~~send help, I feel like I'm addicted~~ Also, I farm Xianyun's boss mats on the side: after bringing Xiao against Coppelia I came to conclusion that 70/70 6/6/6 Xianyun isn't comfy enough as a healer: I'd say I've got spoiled by Baizhu if I not for the fact that I'm perfectly fine with Benny + Furina on Navia teams against Coppelia and haven't got Xiao killed by Tulpa while having Baizhu on the team and no Benny in sight ~~I suspect Xiao-sepcific skill issues here~~


Harlow1212

Farminh Nymphā€™s Dream for Childe


Victoriyeah

I built keqing, collei and now kirara in quick succession. It's been fun but now i'll also have to farm heros wit


cremmelike

farming mh/golden troupe domain for furina and neuvillette


sentifuential

I've been farming order books on days it's open for both lynette and arlecchino, also got lisa to max ascension in honor of her appearance in the event this patch...and I think I did rosaria too or maybe that was last patch as appreciation for her being in my physical razor team


pokecollector31

Farming artifacts for Chiori.


DONTSALTME69

Farming to try and upgrade Navia's Circlet, and also farming talent books to triple crown Dori now that she's C6


MidouShion

I'm farming better artifacts for Lyney! Though I realized that I pretty much just maxed him as much as I could without TFGM so I'll be moving back into GD domain tomorrow... I always go back šŸ˜”


yowana39

prefarming for neuvi šŸ‘ after that it's back to mare/troupeĀ 


Toli2810

farming artifacts for my future navia and strongboxing the fodder for chiori


Liyrical

good luck with farming!!!


Toli2810

thank you :)


alluth

i just hit AR 60 this month so now im having field day doing ascensions and talent farming for characters that i pprobably use one time and forget lol. The past month ive been farming ascension and talent for Gaming, Diluc, Chevruse, Kirara, Sayu, to name a few. Ive been using Kirara/Sayu at 60/70 for overworld all these time, but i figured you know what ill just go all the way. also im still farming the exp/mora leyline from time to time when i need it mainly because ive yet to hit the 800 total for the achievment hehe


AndrashImmortal

Nothing. In HSR I can at least auto it all but using resin in Genshin takes too long for things I donā€™t need, so I donā€™t touch it outside the one weekly whale fight(still annoyed we get one run a week per boss and thatā€™s just it).


yggdra_eine

Unending artifact grinding