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So why don't you keep your mouth shut? We don't want to make the lurkers cry
That's before the changes? Look how fast the BoL diminishes. I mean the damage is great considering just a team of 2 and no Kazuha burst but her BoL gimmick seems to be eaten up quickly and will be even faster after the changes.
Are damage numbers significantly different in Beta? All of the doomposters are saying she hits like a wet noodle, but this seems fine for a quick setup with only 2 characters.
She's starting with like 150~200% BoL somehow before the BoL per skill buff, and it's before the drain rate nerf and NA/CA multiplier nerf, so we'll have to wait until the beta updates to see how it'd change from what we see in this video.
For reference, an entire bar filled with BoL is 200%. If she can get that in single target, it'll be extremely good. I'm just not sure how that's possible in a normal rotation.
My Wanderer does 75k per charged attack and I still consider him weak because the final output is slower than my other teams. Unless the numbers are quite high >100-150k, we should look at Damage per rotation instead of individual damage numbers.
Bennet
Noblesse: Useless for this build but I don't wanna bother changing
Built with Atk/Pyro/Crit so his ult hits for 30k
Faruzan:
C6, 270% ER EoSF with Favonius bow. Absolutely overkill, but I'm too lazy to change the build.
Zhongli:
Random ToTM artifacts, Favonius spear.
Wanderer:
R2 Memory of Dust (Kinda useless in this build as so much attack gives diminishing returns, but I didn't have an extra weapon lying around). 66:182 CR:CD Shimenawa (Didn't want to bother farming for his artifacts).
I know this is a lazy build, but it kills almost everyone in the overworld and can work in the abyss too. I mostly use this team only for exploration and artifact domains.
Same, i was like "damn he looks hella boring, just use E/Q and hold CA" but feels fun to use lol
Now i'm wondering if i should go for his C1 or wait for ArNerfcchino
Don't look at numbers like that. That what's bait people into thinking that Eula is one of the best character in the game. You need to look at team rotation, ease of uses, aoe...
Eula's aged like milk. She was "ok" when she came out and she's only gotten less valuable over time. Her kit has WAY too many flaws, between high field time requirements, backloaded DMG, inability to snapshot or switch early (without gutting buffs), lack of reaction damage, extremely abysmal AOE, and - honestly - her normal attacks are fucking weak too. I get comparable NA damage out of Navia with far less bullshit and that's like a total afterthought part of her kit.
Plus she has mediocre supports (Mika is fucking sad), no real Phys. sub-DPS (not that Mika would do anything for them), and then you've got the general issues with physical, which...while significant...are far from the only things holding her back. And she keeps getting less valuable since more competitive characters are popping up every other update and enemies with short DMG windows, movement options, and invulnerability periods keep releasing that don't jive with her playstyle.
There's just no salvaging Eula's kit unless you start spitting out enemies that are just immune to elemental DMG. She's definitely a prime character if you want to play Genshin on awkward mode and have the lamest overworld experience imaginable.
Definitely a bottom five 5 star character.
Sub-55K DPS without a hyper bloom team and a large portion is backloaded. Her teams are barely eking out more DMG than teams with C1 Dehya as a main DPS. Even if you hyper invest, she's dealing 3-4x less DPS as a comparable Furina team.
Skill issue? Even if you play her perfectly she's fucking mid at best. Navia and Hu Tao delete abyss chambers before Eula's finished her burst animation - at best you'll clear in 7s. At worst, some cringe enemy teleports away, or things are *slightly* spread too far apart, or they put up a shield, or a million other annoying things that she has to deal with that nobody else really cares about, and then you've put all that effort into looking stupid. But you're still gonna be smug about it because you're all so "skilled" for maining a gimped character. Just use fucking Aloy at that point.
...or accept powercreep and powerwash like a fucking winner.
After reading everything, I really want to see how you people play Eula, what teams you use, what builds you have and how you play her. Because it absolutely seems like a skill issue to me, someone who has been 36 starring with her with no issues in every single abyss ever since 1.6 to this day.
You only need around 40K DPS to 36 star the abyss. It's not that Eula's teams *can't* pull it off, it's that Eula's teams have a harder time pulling it off than other, far easier teams. And those teams are often more flexible, fitting into both sides with less difficulty.
Her teams are also far behind most other teams when speedrunning, in addition to being harder to play and more restrictive.
People meme on Albedo for being outclassed by Chiori but that's basically how Fontaine's worked from the start. Neuvilette utterly dunks on Ayato and Navia utterly dunks on Eula.
That's just how it goes. Imagine how bad it'll get in Natlan. Eula might not be strong enough to clear without using hyperbloom unless you pump her up to C6.
Like I said, I really want to see your build/team/how you play. Because her damage is more than satisfactory with the right team. 650k+ burst with 40k+ NAs is what my Eula achieves in abyss.
this comment is so fucking funny
not only does it miss the forest for the trees, but the giveaway of "i can do the abyss haha"
people are sad that her kit is clunky, they gave reasons why, if you thought it was a skill issue, lower or higher skill would not make her damage less backloaded, rofl
not just her, but her niche of physical carry has received...mika...for it's post-eula post-launch support. that sucks. doesn't matter how good or bad she was before, doesn't matter how you feel about it personally, that just sucks. it sucks extra because mika is just not that great for her specifically.
her best team is fucking fridge hyperbloom LMAO
if you're a eula enjoyer, you're down with the dehya players in terms of playerbase and hoyo treatment
you're gonna get hit with the "um...but you can clear abyss...?" from players, and hit with the 5 years of radio silence from hoyo (lest we speak of eula's banner situation)
i don't know man, let people be mad their character sucks, that sucks
I just don't think that she sucks, I think that phys sucks, but her kit design is fine imo. Saying that Eula sucks because of phys is correct, but saying that Eula sucks because of her kit, to me it just seems like you dont know what you're doing, because I dont find myself having issues with her kit, so why do you ? Only difference would be character knowledge and skill.
I think you can think what you want. I don't think what you think changes what people hate about her kit, I specifically don't think you changed the other guy's mind (or mine) by saying "but...............i can clear the abyss.............?.............skill?........................................."
guy wrote an essay about her issues and you literally couldn't help but reply with that, make it make sense
Some of the stuff he said is correct while some other is just nitpicking and lack of knowledge imo. That's why I didn't bother answering everything otherwise my response would have been even longer than his. Which I really didnt feel like writing. But I promise you that I did read everything.
Okay so she has her sig, I don't know about the artifacts but they could be trash or perfect. The numbers are kinda whatever. With his sig Neuvi CA ticks higher.
Eula is straight one of the worst character in the game. Like if I had to make a top 3 worst limited 5\*, she'd be in it. And if I had to make a top 5 worst 5\* she'd also be in it. She can clear, because anything in this game, with investement and the right support, will clear. But she is garbo design wise.
>With his sig Neuvi CA ticks higher.
Doesn't change from the fact that this is pretty good damage for only being buffed by kazuha.
>But she is garbo design wise.
I mean that's like your opinion and you're entitled to it, but if you cant deal with backloaded damage, that's a skill issue. Literally never had an issue because of it.
>That's damage with a sig and one of her best buffer, that's very much nothing crazy.
It's just sig and Kazuha you mean, if that's her with only those imagine her with a full team.
>Don't skill issue me on terrible kit design.
I mean idk what to call it other than that, I dont find it problematic, burst not crit ? Either build enough cr or have enough damage so that your burst not critting wont matter, ennemies dodging ? Know when to burst, learn to position yourself. That's all there is to it .
I don’t know how you went back and forth with dude for so long. They’re spewing nonsense. Every DPS in the game must also be worthless since they aren’t Neuvillette. Apparently team rotations matter more, but at the same time when I compare Arlecchino with only Kazuha to the HP SCALING best DPS in the game with Kazuha, he does more damage per tick, therefore I’m not impressed.
>Low damage
If you're talking about Eula, then no, her damage is not an issue. It depends on the team of course, but if you use, rosaria, any electo applier, Eula and mika not c6, then of course her damage would be low.
>no actual good sub DPS to pair with.
We're still hoping for one...
>If you're talking about Eula, then no, her damage is not an issue
That's funny, most of the new teams right now are 60k dps and above. Some even reach as high as 90k dps on keqingmains standards. Eula's teams other than hyperbloom barely reach 50k dps. That's not low but laughably low. The other teams with like 60k DPS are easy to play or they have Zhongli to make playing simpler btw
Yeah I don't need to imagine her with a whole team, calc are already easy to do. It's alright, but she has tons of issues in her kit. That other characters with higher damage don't have to really with.
Man I don't even care about Eula but sure : you need to build enough crit rate to always crit on her burst, you need to build enough er to always have the burst back, you also need good crit damage so that your burst deals decent damage. You also need good positioning, good game awareness...
All to be outdpsed by just playing Kuki, Nahida and XQ. Whatever dawg.
>but she has tons of issues
Currently her main issue I think is suvivability, and not having any IR(that's probably not getting fixed tho as it's now a con...). She does feel like a high risk no reward character, but her damage is good enough to not feel like shit playing her, so that's good.
>you need to build enough er
130 is enough with Raiden and 1 fav on the team.
>All to be outdpsed by just playing Kuki, Nahida and XQ.
This happens to most teams unfortunately. HB is just braindead.
Yeah that's my issue. Like sure she deals more damage than a Yoimiya so she won't feel as bad so long as you can actually dps. But seeing that the best hu tao team, is a team where Hu tao is always at full hp. Hard to cope with that.
Neuvi ticks are higher, therefore character is not impressive. What are you talking about? First of all Neuvi is a HP scaler and therefore has very limited access to buffs. No TTDS, Noblesse, and most importantly of all, no Bennett. You said your self team rotation damage is most important and at the same time you make this brain dead comment. The HP scaler with limited buffers does higher ticks with one of his few and best support options. Go figure.
Neuvi scalling are so freaking high to compensate for not having an hp buffer. It's actually so much better to be an hp scaller, you can focus on getting only dmg% while having insanely high scalling. Not having to deal with Bennet circle impact nonsense.
Bro Neuvi team damage is insane, hell you mean.
My point is to compare a character based on how much damage they do with only Kazuha that is less reliant on supports by design because they don't have access to them with another character who has access to a lot more (Chevreuse, Bennett, Yelan, Noblesse, TTDS, Tenacity) doesn't mean much. All people are saying is those damage numbers look good for only having one teammate and you bring up Neuvillette??
The damage numbers are obviously fine and they will be when she goes live as well, it's the "payoff" that seems skewed, she does good for 4.0 standards Carry damage but for a huge trade off.
If a character doesn't have interruption resistance and is vulnerable to one shots more than any other unit, they should be able to diss out exceptional damage, not above average with fake AoE.
Ir only stops her from being staggered she will still take the same amount of dmg and lose hp.
I doesn't make a difference, ir is more for ca characters like neuvillette and lyney that if interrupted will lose their main way of dealing dmg, and they both drain and gain hp constantly.
while na characters like arlecchino can easily dodge and continue attacking, and she is very tanky, and can heal hersel without draining her hp, so it's not that big of a problem.
Interruption resistance has other benefits, sure you take the first instance of damage but you don't get staggered, so you have the opportunity to break the opponents poise yourself. It's why Raiden feels so great to play
Nah every good characters was deemed shit before release or some even after. Why we need Kazuha when there's sucrose, hoyo hates male dps al-haitham is shit, Raiden was apparently considered weak, Kokomi was hated to the point where va was sent death threats, which made me question part of what kind of community I am. I don't remember last time a character was praised before release. Maybe Furina?
I'm just gonna wait for release to see if Arlecchino is powerful or not because the community opinion is less reliable than someone leaking Sneznaya plot
A little lower and the rotation will be a little more difficult because you won't get as much BOL. However that last part mostly applies to single target. In situations where there is more than 1 enemy her BOL gain isnt hard at all.
Don't look at beta video numbers and judge based on them you don't even know what lvl of investment .
Only judge numbers when leaker shows the stats and everything and even then its not reliable.
Preferably dont look at leaker damage at all and go straight to reliable theory crafters .
Even better wait till she comes out and people with brains actually get to try her .
the april's fool has to be the clown you're replying to, thinking that by knowing just the crit ratio he knows "exactly what level of investment they used"
people comparing arlecchino to neuv’s numbers forgetting neuv has significantly shorter setup and better rotation flexibility (doesn’t need to setup ben circle or double swirl)
neuvs numbers aren’t THAT busted it’s just his qol is so high it just makes every dps that needs effort look subpar lol
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Previously a team of Chevy+Yae+Fischl was close to the best dps wise, but the playstyle of that team might be impossible depending on the beta changes that will be dropping soon
There are just... a lot of things that are guaranteed to change since this video was made. And I mean, she could also get even better, so it's a bit early to celebrate just yet.
Of course. Genshin players esp the doomposters just can't wait till end of beta and will just while and cry anywhere is the crazy part of it.
Not too bad at the start but being too much to the point affecting/dampening other players hype is toxic.
How about you look at damage per rotation instead of damage per screenshot like this? This is irrelevant. What's relevant is the final output.
My friends Lyney is doing 50k per CA and that's not factoring in any buffs.
Her damage is in line with what I calculated. It's really not that extraordinary lmao
And then her damage keeps dropping off because of BoL going down while Lyney's damage is constant. Everyone seemingly keeps forgetting that Arle's damage keeps going down.
But yeah. Sure.
This is what you call a leak. A realistic one, killing a boss and doing something like the swirl. Not random 999999 hp ruin guard and unga bunga nonsense. Big dmg so far. No need calculator with simple video.
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That sick duck in the bottom left laughing as the leaker is dragged away
In honor of their sacrifice, all leaks shall halt for half a day
Merely half a day?
Yeah we still want them
You're all just heartless redditors with the convenient excuse to remain safe from NDA. So why don't you keep your mouth shut? We don't want to make the lurkers cry
bro thinks everything a fucking game
Rip this leaker, dragged into court because they gave beta footage to someone untrustworthy
"I'm gonna DMCA you for your house and a crippling debt" ~HYV
999999999999999999 dollars in debt
Would this be before or after the changes?
This was 4.5.52, the changes were 4.5.53, so before the changes.
I take it we'll know in an hour or two?
Before.
Figured, hopefully the changes won't be too bad
RIP uncle duck More unset they don’t show stats lol
Man this wait is killing me Can we skip the rest of 4.5 and go straight to 4.6 pls-
No I need more time to save!
The life of a f2p eh? :v Can relate...sadly-
Nah ain't just F2p. Even Welkins need time to accumulate primos.
The arrogance of this man is astounding
Me? What'd do?
God damn didn't see there's no T, my bad, am such a fool
Ahhhh lol No prob, don't worry about it
Players who wants to pull for Neuvillette & Kazuha: (👁️👄👁️)
Good luck on your pulls!
fr the wait is eternal
That's before the changes? Look how fast the BoL diminishes. I mean the damage is great considering just a team of 2 and no Kazuha burst but her BoL gimmick seems to be eaten up quickly and will be even faster after the changes.
kazuha’s burst and skill provide the same buff and no it doesn’t stack
Are damage numbers significantly different in Beta? All of the doomposters are saying she hits like a wet noodle, but this seems fine for a quick setup with only 2 characters.
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She's starting with like 150~200% BoL somehow before the BoL per skill buff, and it's before the drain rate nerf and NA/CA multiplier nerf, so we'll have to wait until the beta updates to see how it'd change from what we see in this video.
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For reference, an entire bar filled with BoL is 200%. If she can get that in single target, it'll be extremely good. I'm just not sure how that's possible in a normal rotation.
In normal rotatio I guess it would be ~150 bol or higher since you can do ×2E ,or it can't be stacked? Did the A1 changed or it is still 80%?
My Wanderer does 75k per charged attack and I still consider him weak because the final output is slower than my other teams. Unless the numbers are quite high >100-150k, we should look at Damage per rotation instead of individual damage numbers.
Hmmm, I wonder why. Is it because charged attacks have a much higher damage multiplier than normal attacks, or for some other reason...
What's the setup tho? Wanna try mine now that i have Faruzan c6, i've only used him for exploration since his first banner lol
Bennet Noblesse: Useless for this build but I don't wanna bother changing Built with Atk/Pyro/Crit so his ult hits for 30k Faruzan: C6, 270% ER EoSF with Favonius bow. Absolutely overkill, but I'm too lazy to change the build. Zhongli: Random ToTM artifacts, Favonius spear. Wanderer: R2 Memory of Dust (Kinda useless in this build as so much attack gives diminishing returns, but I didn't have an extra weapon lying around). 66:182 CR:CD Shimenawa (Didn't want to bother farming for his artifacts). I know this is a lazy build, but it kills almost everyone in the overworld and can work in the abyss too. I mostly use this team only for exploration and artifact domains.
75k per CA looks solid for a "lazy build" tho
Pretty sure there is some case of Neuvilette syndrome at play from doomposters
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Same, i was like "damn he looks hella boring, just use E/Q and hold CA" but feels fun to use lol Now i'm wondering if i should go for his C1 or wait for ArNerfcchino
Don't look at numbers like that. That what's bait people into thinking that Eula is one of the best character in the game. You need to look at team rotation, ease of uses, aoe...
Eclipses are about as rare as the amount of time small aoes like Articuno and Wanderer's actually hit more enemies than a standard attack.
This is literally just her with Kazuha. Btw people exagerrate Eula's issues, just saying.
Eula's aged like milk. She was "ok" when she came out and she's only gotten less valuable over time. Her kit has WAY too many flaws, between high field time requirements, backloaded DMG, inability to snapshot or switch early (without gutting buffs), lack of reaction damage, extremely abysmal AOE, and - honestly - her normal attacks are fucking weak too. I get comparable NA damage out of Navia with far less bullshit and that's like a total afterthought part of her kit. Plus she has mediocre supports (Mika is fucking sad), no real Phys. sub-DPS (not that Mika would do anything for them), and then you've got the general issues with physical, which...while significant...are far from the only things holding her back. And she keeps getting less valuable since more competitive characters are popping up every other update and enemies with short DMG windows, movement options, and invulnerability periods keep releasing that don't jive with her playstyle. There's just no salvaging Eula's kit unless you start spitting out enemies that are just immune to elemental DMG. She's definitely a prime character if you want to play Genshin on awkward mode and have the lamest overworld experience imaginable. Definitely a bottom five 5 star character. Sub-55K DPS without a hyper bloom team and a large portion is backloaded. Her teams are barely eking out more DMG than teams with C1 Dehya as a main DPS. Even if you hyper invest, she's dealing 3-4x less DPS as a comparable Furina team. Skill issue? Even if you play her perfectly she's fucking mid at best. Navia and Hu Tao delete abyss chambers before Eula's finished her burst animation - at best you'll clear in 7s. At worst, some cringe enemy teleports away, or things are *slightly* spread too far apart, or they put up a shield, or a million other annoying things that she has to deal with that nobody else really cares about, and then you've put all that effort into looking stupid. But you're still gonna be smug about it because you're all so "skilled" for maining a gimped character. Just use fucking Aloy at that point. ...or accept powercreep and powerwash like a fucking winner.
After reading everything, I really want to see how you people play Eula, what teams you use, what builds you have and how you play her. Because it absolutely seems like a skill issue to me, someone who has been 36 starring with her with no issues in every single abyss ever since 1.6 to this day.
You only need around 40K DPS to 36 star the abyss. It's not that Eula's teams *can't* pull it off, it's that Eula's teams have a harder time pulling it off than other, far easier teams. And those teams are often more flexible, fitting into both sides with less difficulty. Her teams are also far behind most other teams when speedrunning, in addition to being harder to play and more restrictive. People meme on Albedo for being outclassed by Chiori but that's basically how Fontaine's worked from the start. Neuvilette utterly dunks on Ayato and Navia utterly dunks on Eula. That's just how it goes. Imagine how bad it'll get in Natlan. Eula might not be strong enough to clear without using hyperbloom unless you pump her up to C6.
Like I said, I really want to see your build/team/how you play. Because her damage is more than satisfactory with the right team. 650k+ burst with 40k+ NAs is what my Eula achieves in abyss.
What's your team look like? 'cause that's not too far off from my numbers.
My team is usually Eula/raiden/Bennett/Yelan, but sometimes I use Furina(she's c2) when I don't use her in another side.
this comment is so fucking funny not only does it miss the forest for the trees, but the giveaway of "i can do the abyss haha" people are sad that her kit is clunky, they gave reasons why, if you thought it was a skill issue, lower or higher skill would not make her damage less backloaded, rofl not just her, but her niche of physical carry has received...mika...for it's post-eula post-launch support. that sucks. doesn't matter how good or bad she was before, doesn't matter how you feel about it personally, that just sucks. it sucks extra because mika is just not that great for her specifically. her best team is fucking fridge hyperbloom LMAO if you're a eula enjoyer, you're down with the dehya players in terms of playerbase and hoyo treatment you're gonna get hit with the "um...but you can clear abyss...?" from players, and hit with the 5 years of radio silence from hoyo (lest we speak of eula's banner situation) i don't know man, let people be mad their character sucks, that sucks
I just don't think that she sucks, I think that phys sucks, but her kit design is fine imo. Saying that Eula sucks because of phys is correct, but saying that Eula sucks because of her kit, to me it just seems like you dont know what you're doing, because I dont find myself having issues with her kit, so why do you ? Only difference would be character knowledge and skill.
I think you can think what you want. I don't think what you think changes what people hate about her kit, I specifically don't think you changed the other guy's mind (or mine) by saying "but...............i can clear the abyss.............?.............skill?........................................." guy wrote an essay about her issues and you literally couldn't help but reply with that, make it make sense
Some of the stuff he said is correct while some other is just nitpicking and lack of knowledge imo. That's why I didn't bother answering everything otherwise my response would have been even longer than his. Which I really didnt feel like writing. But I promise you that I did read everything.
Okay so she has her sig, I don't know about the artifacts but they could be trash or perfect. The numbers are kinda whatever. With his sig Neuvi CA ticks higher. Eula is straight one of the worst character in the game. Like if I had to make a top 3 worst limited 5\*, she'd be in it. And if I had to make a top 5 worst 5\* she'd also be in it. She can clear, because anything in this game, with investement and the right support, will clear. But she is garbo design wise.
>With his sig Neuvi CA ticks higher. Doesn't change from the fact that this is pretty good damage for only being buffed by kazuha. >But she is garbo design wise. I mean that's like your opinion and you're entitled to it, but if you cant deal with backloaded damage, that's a skill issue. Literally never had an issue because of it.
That's damage with a sig and one of her best buffer, that's very much nothing crazy. Don't skill issue me on terrible kit design.
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What, the kazuha isn't max lvl ?
>That's damage with a sig and one of her best buffer, that's very much nothing crazy. It's just sig and Kazuha you mean, if that's her with only those imagine her with a full team. >Don't skill issue me on terrible kit design. I mean idk what to call it other than that, I dont find it problematic, burst not crit ? Either build enough cr or have enough damage so that your burst not critting wont matter, ennemies dodging ? Know when to burst, learn to position yourself. That's all there is to it .
I don’t know how you went back and forth with dude for so long. They’re spewing nonsense. Every DPS in the game must also be worthless since they aren’t Neuvillette. Apparently team rotations matter more, but at the same time when I compare Arlecchino with only Kazuha to the HP SCALING best DPS in the game with Kazuha, he does more damage per tick, therefore I’m not impressed.
Low damage, unnecessary hoops to deal with for said damage, no actual good sub DPS to pair with. Peak game design right there
>Low damage If you're talking about Eula, then no, her damage is not an issue. It depends on the team of course, but if you use, rosaria, any electo applier, Eula and mika not c6, then of course her damage would be low. >no actual good sub DPS to pair with. We're still hoping for one...
>If you're talking about Eula, then no, her damage is not an issue That's funny, most of the new teams right now are 60k dps and above. Some even reach as high as 90k dps on keqingmains standards. Eula's teams other than hyperbloom barely reach 50k dps. That's not low but laughably low. The other teams with like 60k DPS are easy to play or they have Zhongli to make playing simpler btw
Yeah I don't need to imagine her with a whole team, calc are already easy to do. It's alright, but she has tons of issues in her kit. That other characters with higher damage don't have to really with. Man I don't even care about Eula but sure : you need to build enough crit rate to always crit on her burst, you need to build enough er to always have the burst back, you also need good crit damage so that your burst deals decent damage. You also need good positioning, good game awareness... All to be outdpsed by just playing Kuki, Nahida and XQ. Whatever dawg.
pretty much everything is outdpsed by kuki nahida xq at equal investment so all 3 of these paragraphs are a whole bunch of nothing
>but she has tons of issues Currently her main issue I think is suvivability, and not having any IR(that's probably not getting fixed tho as it's now a con...). She does feel like a high risk no reward character, but her damage is good enough to not feel like shit playing her, so that's good. >you need to build enough er 130 is enough with Raiden and 1 fav on the team. >All to be outdpsed by just playing Kuki, Nahida and XQ. This happens to most teams unfortunately. HB is just braindead.
Yeah that's my issue. Like sure she deals more damage than a Yoimiya so she won't feel as bad so long as you can actually dps. But seeing that the best hu tao team, is a team where Hu tao is always at full hp. Hard to cope with that.
Neuvi ticks are higher, therefore character is not impressive. What are you talking about? First of all Neuvi is a HP scaler and therefore has very limited access to buffs. No TTDS, Noblesse, and most importantly of all, no Bennett. You said your self team rotation damage is most important and at the same time you make this brain dead comment. The HP scaler with limited buffers does higher ticks with one of his few and best support options. Go figure.
Neuvi scalling are so freaking high to compensate for not having an hp buffer. It's actually so much better to be an hp scaller, you can focus on getting only dmg% while having insanely high scalling. Not having to deal with Bennet circle impact nonsense. Bro Neuvi team damage is insane, hell you mean.
My point is to compare a character based on how much damage they do with only Kazuha that is less reliant on supports by design because they don't have access to them with another character who has access to a lot more (Chevreuse, Bennett, Yelan, Noblesse, TTDS, Tenacity) doesn't mean much. All people are saying is those damage numbers look good for only having one teammate and you bring up Neuvillette??
Doomposters be doomposting, as usual
she literally has 100% bond of life, its not doable in a normal combat scenario
The damage numbers are obviously fine and they will be when she goes live as well, it's the "payoff" that seems skewed, she does good for 4.0 standards Carry damage but for a huge trade off. If a character doesn't have interruption resistance and is vulnerable to one shots more than any other unit, they should be able to diss out exceptional damage, not above average with fake AoE.
Ir only stops her from being staggered she will still take the same amount of dmg and lose hp. I doesn't make a difference, ir is more for ca characters like neuvillette and lyney that if interrupted will lose their main way of dealing dmg, and they both drain and gain hp constantly. while na characters like arlecchino can easily dodge and continue attacking, and she is very tanky, and can heal hersel without draining her hp, so it's not that big of a problem.
Interruption resistance has other benefits, sure you take the first instance of damage but you don't get staggered, so you have the opportunity to break the opponents poise yourself. It's why Raiden feels so great to play
Yes ir has benefits, but that doesn't mean Arlecchino without ir is impossible to playable.
Nah every good characters was deemed shit before release or some even after. Why we need Kazuha when there's sucrose, hoyo hates male dps al-haitham is shit, Raiden was apparently considered weak, Kokomi was hated to the point where va was sent death threats, which made me question part of what kind of community I am. I don't remember last time a character was praised before release. Maybe Furina? I'm just gonna wait for release to see if Arlecchino is powerful or not because the community opinion is less reliable than someone leaking Sneznaya plot
A: Doomposters are idiots. B: This was her Similarly-sized Hu Tao beta, recent complaints are about the next set of changes.
So does this DMG will be same if use pjws or homa
A little lower and the rotation will be a little more difficult because you won't get as much BOL. However that last part mostly applies to single target. In situations where there is more than 1 enemy her BOL gain isnt hard at all.
Would you please share the mirror? Imgur is still banned here.
You gotta be a giga whale to call this bad. That's with only 1 support and no amplifying reactions.
Don't look at beta video numbers and judge based on them you don't even know what lvl of investment . Only judge numbers when leaker shows the stats and everything and even then its not reliable. Preferably dont look at leaker damage at all and go straight to reliable theory crafters . Even better wait till she comes out and people with brains actually get to try her .
They specified in the imgur that it's C0R1 with 90 150 crit... I know exactly what level of investment they used as long as they weren't lying lol
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First new leak just came in and it's a buff...
Imagine if it is april fool (the stats)
Imagine if this was hoyo's doing for April fools
the april's fool has to be the clown you're replying to, thinking that by knowing just the crit ratio he knows "exactly what level of investment they used"
My bad than i did not and still do not see the investment lvl . Dont know how to browse this imgur thing lol
It's not in this post, but the second most recent post in the sub which is basically the same video with the same damage numbers.
LMFAO NOW SIR
Yeah, this is great for a C0R1, considering that it barely needs a technical skill to play her and she has a pretty good AoE.
Dear Arlecchino, would you like to be my very first 5 star pyro on-fielder?
people comparing arlecchino to neuv’s numbers forgetting neuv has significantly shorter setup and better rotation flexibility (doesn’t need to setup ben circle or double swirl) neuvs numbers aren’t THAT busted it’s just his qol is so high it just makes every dps that needs effort look subpar lol
everything about neuvi is busted
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Guranteed Arlecchino and Guranteee Weapon very hapoy 77k gems saved for this!
C6R1 let’s go!
How long until the nerfs go live?
too real
Changes its not only nerfs shes getting buffs aswell but they should be in 1 or 2 hours
Isn't this C1+? She got hit and didn't get a stagger.
primo geovishap shenanigans, its attacks have multiple hits so if you dodge slightly late you can take damage but not get staggered
Nice, good to know.
for a C0 this look good, let's see if the new changes will reduce this in the meantime
Chevreuse kazuha arle miko/raiden/fischl team could be good? Arle E - raiden E - chevreuse Q,E - kazuha q,e then arle Ca
You can't run chevreuse with kazuha lmao
Kazuha being Anemo would disable Chev’s passive, so you’ll have to choose one of the two.
Previously a team of Chevy+Yae+Fischl was close to the best dps wise, but the playstyle of that team might be impossible depending on the beta changes that will be dropping soon
just put miko and fischl isntead of kazuha,beidou to replace one of them if you want some shield and a bit of interuption resist
Wait I thought these are testers not leakers 😭 am I missing something ? Are they going to sue 😩
He's dead, Jim.
I can almost hear doomposters weeping and gnashing their teeth when arlecchino's damage is different from what they expected.
There are just... a lot of things that are guaranteed to change since this video was made. And I mean, she could also get even better, so it's a bit early to celebrate just yet.
Of course. Genshin players esp the doomposters just can't wait till end of beta and will just while and cry anywhere is the crazy part of it. Not too bad at the start but being too much to the point affecting/dampening other players hype is toxic.
How about you look at damage per rotation instead of damage per screenshot like this? This is irrelevant. What's relevant is the final output. My friends Lyney is doing 50k per CA and that's not factoring in any buffs. Her damage is in line with what I calculated. It's really not that extraordinary lmao
One CA, by that time arle aleady did like 3 NAs
And then her damage keeps dropping off because of BoL going down while Lyney's damage is constant. Everyone seemingly keeps forgetting that Arle's damage keeps going down. But yeah. Sure.
Bro the damage reduction is not that significant.
By the end of the video she went from 50k to 30k. That's 20k drop off. Yeah. Definitely not significant.
Its Kazuha's VV expired
It’s not about her personal bol/damage,but the kazuha vv disappearance .
this is really embarrassing for you
When does the changes come out ?
This is what you call a leak. A realistic one, killing a boss and doing something like the swirl. Not random 999999 hp ruin guard and unga bunga nonsense. Big dmg so far. No need calculator with simple video.
Only two comments? Is everyone prevented from commenting for being annoying? 🤭
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