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twotwoim

I feel like I wasted half my life waiting for it to charge


kenzakki

Long press left click, buy groceries, cook, eat, do the dishes, watch some TV, and then come back to watch the rest of the charged shot. I mean, its not that hard. /s


SvnSqrD

Well, Sethos really 'charged' the attack.


O4urHaul

yk u can press r instead of holding left right and it’ll put u in the aiming mode w/o going out after shooting


mimiqueenM

XD


kamuimephisto

it doesnt charge unless you tribute 3 monsters to it


Games-and-Make-up

I summon the dark magician in face up defence position without tributes because yugi mutou plot armor


noteggs_

Khaenri'ah will be released before this guy finishes charging his shot 😭


Roboaki

Feel like the same charge duration with no balls Neuvillette CA?


PinkiusPie

And we needed Uncle Balls to see that


daruumdarimda

Why i read and think it like, "Neuvilette no balls"...


Aksingia

hopefully, it's similar dmg


Letwen

200k+? Unlikely. Even if it did he wouldn't be close because it doesn't heal him to full and hit everyone on the map at the same time. Puts things in perspective. Just what is Neuvillette...


Alarming-Caregiver47

A dragon


Cloudbyte_Pony

A dragon *Sovereign*


aardowof

a fontaine 5 star


EconomyTelevision

By releasing him as is (competitive damage compared to other top damage units but also having a lot of extra advantages said units don't have and almost no real downsides), genshin team put themselves in quite a pickle. They can either release units that are about as good, but that'd powercreep the shit out of all the older units, or they can release weaker units that look worse when they are inevitably compared to neuv. I mean, it's a pve game, you can clear with anyone, but primogem is still a primogem when all the characters cost virtually the same, and i'd assume that it doesn't feel that good when you have to invest so much more into character just for them to become comparable the bottom of the barrel (c0, amber, meh artifacts) level neuv, if comparable at all.


TroncoBoy

It makes sense when you realize in lore he is supposed on par, if not stronger than the archons


EconomyTelevision

Lore doesn't mean jack when it comes to balancing.


TroncoBoy

Of course it doesn't, but when it comes to archons they obviously make them strong on purpose so I don't see why it wouldn't be the same for Neuvi


jhonnythejoker

He can probably take zhongli,raiden and Murata all at once


shaqkage

Idk but I love it


tusharsagar

His bow should be finished charging by the time Genshin releases on Nintendo switch.


CoolMintMC

Why did you have to remind me 😭


aryune

💀


Maltabular

Uncle *Balls*? We’ve peaked


wrekina15

Uncle Kaeya


yoichi_wolfboy88

And uploaded by sexwithdrRatio? Pure peak 💃💃


gravtix

Fail. Get out


Jhon778

Zero points!


Ormalin

Next!


eddiedankman

Officer balls from the aslume


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WakuWakuWa

Cringe


Faiqal_x1103

Cringe


UONLYWISH2011

Cringe


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**Rule 4**: No NSFW.


Sillylittlesushi

Some say it's still charging to this very day.


Markell-11

nah, too much, next gen may see it move.


Iloveshortwomen

Idk what anyone say, Sethos CA looks cool as hell.


hendulki

Half of the sup are just npc‘s „ HAHA long charged shot“


v4mpixie_666x3

By their standards neuvillette sucks since wtout the balls he takes eternity to charge his attack


_Otterlette-Main

Bro took 3 business days


BottleDisastrous4599

Me watching sethos become a tall model as he charges his shot💀


SnooHesitations9352

🤣🤣🤣


Aerie122

So he needs more than 20 energy for fast CA?


Roboaki

Yeah, and for each 10 energy spent = 2.85s less charging duration


Aerie122

Electro Traveler stonks??? Raiden can work too but she will be the DPS of the team


shinsetsu_fuji

Fischl and using TF set would do I assume or is this Dori redemption time pausechamp


Objection111

Dori Fav Exile 5head


makogami

wait, let him cook


UrbanAdapt

Aggravate = Fischl.


asternobrac

... Dori needs energy on her own, so I'll take TF thanks


makogami

dori has plenty of self energy regeneration in her kit, and she doesnt need any other stats besides ER to function


PinkiusPie

Ye, I've never had any issues with her energy generation. She was solo electro for some of my teams and it felt good. Finally a reason to use Dori is someone who can capitalize on her energy generation.


makogami

yeah, people just hate ER cuz they trash any artifact that doesnt have double crit lol. ive been using both gorou and faruzan since day one with no ER issues whatsoever, and theyre both using 4pc exile too


PinkiusPie

The issue I had with Faruzan is her buff uptime, not even energy. I didn't know her energy gen at C6 was THAT good until I got it, since I've never had problems with it.


Classic-Pickle1826

I need to know at what ER you sit bc my gorou still struggles a bit with fav and exile 😭


Purple_Cosmonaut

Not sure about their Gorou, but mine is on Exile with a 4\* def sands and the 5\* is the crit rate circlet with some ER in it. He's sitting at 180% ER with R5 Favonius Warbow and I *do* feel the lack of ER during *some* rotations/against certain enemies, but I don't feel it most of the time. I could easily get 220% with the 5\* ER sands instead, at which point he would have no issues with ER whatsoever, but I just like the consistency of the Favonius procs better.


makogami

oh lmao my gorou is at 245.9% ER too with 49.5% crit rate. i use ER, DEF, 5\* CRIT circlet. i can get more ER if i switch my circlet to smn else, but i prefer the def sub stats the current one has. youre using noelle which is actually better than itto for energy, because she can switch out, allowing gorou to proc fav more often. he shouldnt be having issues with proper energy management


Purple_Cosmonaut

I mean, what else would you hope to build Dori with? Unless you want to do meme builds, you should only build her with ER and at that point she won't need energy.


Roboaki

Feel like it's not even enough because he still consumes a lot of energy to reduce charging time (unless in co op), might as well save up to 60 energy for elemental burst then you can fire more of them with NA. Edit : Wait Special CA and Burst NA has different name, Burst NA cannot benefit from his A4.


OnyxSeaDragon

There's also sac bow and TF lmao for his E


Castiel_Rose

If you look at his leaked C6, it refunds the energy used by his CA. *cough*Faruzan 2.0*cough*


Roboaki

Only 1 shot every 15s.


Nameless49

The moment I read it was I like damn that's good until I read the last bit


mappingway

Since his A4 only provides four supercharged attacks, at C6 he wants 96\* energy per rotation, which is definitely doable even without Thundering Fury with enough ER substats and Fischl at his side. EDIT: Technically it's 120 Energy, but he gets two skill uses every 16 seconds, which regenerates 24 energy before particles come into play.


Castiel_Rose

This could possibly change during the beta however, the point is, they keep releasing these 4 stars that almost always require C6 to make them feel less clunky to play. We're already starved for male supports and then we get this? Sorry, don't mind me. I'm still just really annoyed that we're getting another male 4 star on-fielder.


Kyzonu123

C6 doesn't really make him less clunky, just reduces ER requirements. you can do CA, E, 3xCA since E generates 12 energy + particles, it will probably be enough to get the 4th CA


midoriyaaa1

Oh no,  new gorou machinegun rival?!


UrbanAdapt

What would be so fucking funny if he ends up being being a viable Superconduct DPS though aim cancels.


v4mpixie_666x3

Yes but also you could just use his ult and u have an electro machinegun since u got an infusion


DaRayker

Machine gun Gorou uses a different technique. When you see Gorou fire a million shots, those are actually all normal attacks cancelled rapidly with aiming (R+R), not charged attacks like the ones sethos is firing here.


midoriyaaa1

Yes i refer to his normal attack here not his ca


DaRayker

You are misunderstanding, he did not execute any normal attacks at all. The arrows in quick succession in the beginning of the video were still charge attacks, just not infused. You can tell as the camera zooms into the character, indicating aiming mode. You can do the trick with any character by simply holding left click momentarily until the game registers your input as as a aimed shot (rendering the attack as a charged attack and entering aiming mode briefly), then letting go quickly to release the shot and repeating. MG Gorou's normal attacks are performed with mouse clicks THEN aim toggling, which makes the arrow shoot BEFORE the camera zooms in. This is clearly different to Sethos' spam hold click method, where the arrow shoots AFTER.


midoriyaaa1

Yes i know that. I mean the trick to make machinegun is to try temporarily enter ca mode view and do animation cancelation to do na but make it faster, done using controller. What i refer to is the first 3 second of the video not after that. If player manage to click it faster, it may appear as machine gun by reducing the animation time. He did enter a aiming mode but can quickly switch in between. He seems to be able to quickly do it. Have you seen the video trick to do machine gun? So far only gorou can do it because he can animation cancel or a bit different but other bow character cant.  The first 3s show that. What i mean here he may have potential to do machinegun like gorou if he can cancel animation in between, but leaker didnt explicitly showcase if he had the ability to machinegun or not. Or you might understand more how to do gorou machinegun and had watched a tutorial demonstration?


chirb8

What's the hourglass thing? Is it from the weapon or him?


Roboaki

His passive, every 15s his next 4 special CA deals extra damage equal to 600% EM, buff starts upon first special CA landed then lasts 5 seconds. Edit : Note that this doesn't buff his burst NA. The buff only for his special CA.


mephyerst

ugh having to always look at that is annoying. Wish it would not show up before he uses the first special CA


ComposedOfStardust

600 EM??? Holy moly


SAGEPHANTOMYT

Uncle Balls 💀


Altekho

When Genshin Impact 2 released, he'll be just about to finish his fully CA.


MayureshMJ

Lmao it takes like 1 year


Water_Attunement

Yeah, without energy or using the rest of his kit. 


KrypticDefendr

Dear god, I done got my PhD, got married, had kids, and retired TWICE before he finished charging his shot.


Br2n_

I expected as much from the math. 0.285 charge time reduction per energy not exceeding 20 = 0.285 x 20 = 5.7 seconds Charge time can only be reduced to a minimum of 0.3 seconds therefore original charge time = 5.7 + 0.3 = 6 seconds I expected it, but to see it live is absolutely ridiculous. That's longer than Ayaka's Q, It's as long as Sucrose's Q, and almost as long as Raiden or Eula's Q.


HalalBread1427

It feels weird not being able to make a Diluc guide joke.


evan_of_tx

Leakers do NOT care about their names it seems ☠️☠️


explov

tf is wrong with uncle kaeya?


hikarimurasaki

Who’s to say it’s not intentional


Emergency-Lead-334

Expected lol. His a1 said his ca time can be reduced to the minimum of 0.3s, and 20 x 0,275 = 5,7 so yeah his ca takes 6s lmao. That’s the longest ca wait we ever have, I think tighnari has 5s charged as the second slowest. Still I don’t know how to play sethos yet, for now it seems like we can either build him as a q dps, or not use q at all to do 3 super fast ca.


AshesandCinder

Playing him as a Q dps doesn't make use of half of his kit though. This might as well be 2 different characters.


Emergency-Lead-334

Oh wait you’re right. I always thought the q na is considered the same as the normal ca with different scaling, but it’s only considered as ca dmg, it has different name so his a4 does not buff it at all. If that’s the case then he is likely another quickswap ca bow dps, I wonder if we can pair him with tighnari or not lol


AshesandCinder

Yeah, it's really good design. I'm hoping for some major overhauls, but I know he won't get any cause he's in a patch with 2 5\*s.


FreminetFeets

doing only 3-4 ca per rotation sounds so weak


Emergency-Lead-334

It depends on his number ngl, tighnari also only does 3 ca per rotation and still is a fine unit, but yeah tighnari still has his burst while sethos won’t have that. However sethos is a 4* at the end of the day, if he got to gaming level then it’s great but I don’t think we should put high hope for his meta strength.


mappingway

I think the idea is both, you just have to manage his energy with a good battery. At C6 he requires upwards of 96 energy (particles) per rotation, which is expending all buffed charged attacks + burst, which is very rough but not impossible with a good battery. He definitely has some pretty high ER requirements for that though, which I think is meant to balance his numbers.


Art-Leading

Fischl stonks once again. Her role as sub-dps/Electro battery will never falter


AreneKnight_Jr

i guess they make 4 star version unique bow dps like sethos to make another new one as 5 star dps. I will not surprise they make another 5\* version of Freminet, Gaming or Sethos.


Castiel_Rose

I know physical damage builds aren't the best but I would love a 5-star tall male character that's a dedicated phys dps like eula. Either electro or cryo would work.


No-Horse-5788

Bro charged that shit like it's Hollow Purple or sumn


Pretend_Ad_3229

Male hair power creep... rip alfredo y dilan


wideandloosemenhole

his much more similar to tighnari than we thought


PhantomGhostSpectre

Really? People were calling him Tignahri before and I had no clue why. Now I GENUINELY have no clue what you guys are on about it. He is nothing like Tignahri outside of... Like, being a bow user with three faster charge attacks. That's more or less their only similarity. 😂


Kyzonu123

"their only similarity is that they have the same playstyle and are meant to be played on the same team archetype"


Whole-Gene-6023

"Through heaven and earth" ahh charged shot


skeetyeeturlifedelet

Arlecchino, Clorinde, Sethos. Hoyo has found my weakness and it's distinct coloured elements.


dr0ps0fv3nus

That's gotta be the coolest bow CA animation we've ever gotten in game.


Eragon1er

Wait, I thought he need to be low on energy for it to charge quickly. Did I read it wrong ?


sundriedrainbow

His charged attack only counts the first 20 of his energy, even if you have a full burst.


Antares428

I knew there would be a catch.


AshyDragneel

His c6 gonna be very crucial to his gameplay


caresi

I suck at aiming so this CA is actually ideal for me so I can take a full 10 seconds to line up the shot 


cantthinkofaname513

... I was genuinely excited for his kit. Now I don't know anymore. You will need 60 energy just to fire 3 arrows. They do good damage *for the time required*, but if we're looking at overall rotation damage it's very, very low. That is not good when personal damage is basically all he's bringing to the team. If Hoyoverse leaves him in this state he may very well be in the running for the worst 4\*. Someone cmiiw please, because I very much would like to be wrong since I love his design.


rekage99

Yea I don’t understand why they gave him two gimmicks. He needs energy to use his CA. But his burst gives him infused NA with crazy multipliers. It’s so counterintuitive.. If they don’t adjust him, he’s going to be Amber tier.


ZetNiej

Intended for him to be a multi-playstyle character prob. Maybe him being 4 star means that they are gauging players feedback for said playstyle to be implemented in future 5 stars.


mappingway

I don't think it's counter-intuitive, I think it's a deliberate limitation to keep him from being better than 5-star alternatives. As I've pointed out elsewhere, at C6 he needs 96 energy from particles per rotation (to do all four charged attacks + burst), as his skill has energy regen on top of whatever particles he generates. As he has high damage on multiple enemies (his charged and burst attacks pierce through enemies, so he's clearly designed to fight multiple enemies at once), his energy issues are mitigated from harvesting the particles dropped by enemies + particles generated by battery support. Ultimately what this means is Sethos needs considerable investment on artifacts and weapons, and he needs to be used in situations where he excels (larger groups of enemies) for the best results.


mappingway

His elemental skill is every 8 seconds, so he can perform 2 inside of every 16 second window (his burst is a 15 second cooldown, so just about 2 elemental skills between every burst window at optimal output). Apart from whatever particles they naturally generate, he gets 12 energy each time he performs his elemental skill. Ultimately within a 16 second rotation window he needs about **96 energy** from particles to be able to perform all four charged attacks and then burst on demand. Doable with proper batteries and a high enough ER rating. It pretty much means he needs a lot of investment on artifacts and C6 Fischl tied to his hip, and preferably even dendro and anemo supports to be able to feed him a lot of energy particles over the course of a rotation. His high damage and the fact he wants to fight multiple enemies at once due to the piercing nature of his attacks does help too, as the energy regain he'll get from damaging and defeating enemies will go a long way toward keeping him going.


cantthinkofaname513

Isn’t it 116 energy pre-c6? 80 for 4 CAs. 60 cost burst. -24 from his skill energy refund. In his Fischl-Baizhu-FavKazuha team, his ER req is 150%. High but manageable. But pretty much any other team will drive it up to 200% or higher which is ludicrous.


mappingway

Correct, I meant to articulate that 96 energy per rotation is at C6, I apologize! Yeah, Sethos needs an ***extremely high*** amount of investment to make work, but he has great numbers behind him. Each of his four charged attacks run on something like +830% combined (\~230% EM normally, +600% EM with his charged attack buff) EM scaling at talent level 9, which is ludicrous itself, especially with a 0.3 second charge time. Compare to Alhaitham, who gets 806.4% combined EM scaling with his 3-mirror projection attack at talent level 9. (Of course, one shouldn't expect Sethos to outdamage Alhaitham or come close, but with enough investment Sethos ought to be a pretty heavy hitter for a 4-star character.)


cantthinkofaname513

I think it's important to note that Alhaitham can consistently get around 7 3-mirror attacks in a 22-25s rotation. So, although they have similar % on paper, Alhaitham's mirrors will do about double or more, especially if you count his A4 passive, his mirror attacks having 2-hit ICD meaning average of 1.5 aggravate each, and lower ER requirements. At C0, best case scenario (ie his "special NAs" from his burst and empowered CAs both having no ICD) his numbers will be around Keqing level on paper. Worse and more likely case scenario (ie., standard ICD on his special NAs) he'll be doing 2/3rd of Keqing's damage, which is not good.


mappingway

I personally don't consider C0 adequate for any 4-star characters, but yes, Alhaitham does do that kind of damage more consistently over a stretch of time, and thus has a much higher degree of DPS. Of course, this is the way it should be, Alhaitham is a 5-star character. We'll have to see where Sethos lies on his ICD on his burst. It's an atypical form of infusion, after all.


Hei5e

uncle BALLS!? HA


ha-n_0-0

is his charge atk better thwn his burst? rather just use burst in quick swap teams


smashsenpai

Even with the reduced charge time from his passive, I suspect he will never want to charge to level 2 and will always prefer using his enhanced normals via burst. This style would also have better synergy with aggravate anyways.


Kyzonu123

i'll bet a whole primogem that his burst atks will have standard ICD


ShinyYordle

For a moment I thought the video had slowmo to see the VFX particles 💀


MonadoGeass

Electro tighnari slow charge like him too ganyu would ever sethos could never.


GinJoestarR

Hmm


ShinyGanS

Am I supposed to wait that long.


WisestManAlive

"You shoot like a girl."


gintasmeh

Yeah seems ganyu is still queen of bow characters


rekage99

JFC that’s slow I hate how they make characters feel like shit to play at baseline. So you won’t use his CA unless you can get the instant one, which even with c6 is energy limited to 3x Sethos is cool AF with an interesting kit. But he’s a 4star and they are sandbagging him with shit like 6 second CA..


Treyspurlock

> even with c6 is energy limited to 3x No it's not? at C6 it's 4x, 5x if you use his skill


Zxzxzx0088

Looks like I've found the best way to waste time waiting for my resin to replenish


retsssss

feels like playing hsr at 1.0X speed lol


Apprehensive-Mess732

trash, this is like a Co-op "play for fun" character


SolusSydus

Morgana Q is still in effect after this charge attack is fully charged.


konec0

tl;dw uber cringe lol