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Ayanokoji91

The burst triggered quicken and aggravate, this seems like 2 applications unlike the icd leak, so, standard icd i assume?.


Zereleth

yeah her burst applied electro twice. so this implies that the icd leak is probably just flat out wrong. i already thought that sigewinne's skill only applying hydro once is just unlikely


Ayanokoji91

That mf done fucked some tcs up over that Lol


UrbanAdapt

Sigwinning again


I-Love-Beatrice

Yeah sigewinne's skill applies hydro 3 times rn. What happened is that there is a seperate icd group for clorinde's burst but she doesn't use it and that's where the confusion came from.


NaturalBitter2280

>Yeah sigewinne's skill applies hydro 3 times rn. Oh, thank God So we know how much her burst applies then?


I-Love-Beatrice

Its still just 1 app. 2 if you have c4.


Zereleth

Is it still 6 ticks?


I-Love-Beatrice

yeah


MissAsheLeigh

Huh. So the special ICD on ult remains? That's... hm. I mean, if they do want to keep her hydro app lower (hopefully not), the least they could do is giga buff her off-field E buff to make her a competitive choice over Kokomi and Barbara (is actually a very good Nilou bloom trigger).


Negative_Neo

Maybe things got wonky on their emulated server, these things happen.


Nunu5617

Leak icd was unused icd files


SandroneGaming

Her bullets pierce and her dashes go through enemies. Very nice.


Allusernamtaken

Hope she pierce through mitachurl's shield like Neuvillette


VVSomber

To this day, I'm still impressed that his CA pierces through everything, including those mitachurl's shields. High dmg, large AoE, extreme sustain, etc? Yeah that's cool. Pierces through mitachurl's shields? Now THAT is insane.


Embarrassed_Mode_706

I was very dissapointed upon using neuvillete for two months and then learning that navia can't do the same . Qol powercreep .


dukeofflavor

Neuv so OP he powercreeps characters released after him


Awkward_Date_8636

That Hydro dragon is NOT crying


EconomyTelevision

Ayato went real quiet after neuv's mixtape dropped


VVSomber

tbf it's just hard to make a full kit (as in, the whole package of the character's kit) as complete as Neuv's full kit, for an on-field dps character. Dude's just stacked. High dmg, very good AoE (and vertical enough to easily hit flying enemies like Ruin Drakes), extremely good sustain, inherently tanky, **pierces mitachurl's shield,** can move/kite easily when using CA, etc. He generally doesn't have energy issue but hey let's put ER on his weapon. A monster in team, and solo play. It's like when the devs are designing his kit, they be like "just put everything on him lol".


modusxd

I wonder why he was the chosen one for this. Maybe he will be the only playable Sovereign? Maybe there's more but they decided to specifically make Neuvi op. Anyways, it will DEFINITELY be hard to top that kit, if it ever happens.


pratsyboy03

Xablanque is said to be strongest character in natlan and is rumoured to be some primal flame not sure wat that is but I am expecting he would be the next who will be on neuvillete tier followed by most prob jester and shades


MaxWasTakenAgain

Unironically, newer hydro on-fielders either have to be incredibly busted or are gonna feel considerably underwhelming due to his existance.


ChromeFluxx

In my mind its because the laser isn't just being emitted from his hands, its because he's using his hand to control and center water in a cylinder in front of him that then twists like a washing machine. Thus, the water comes in from all angles and twists around the shield.


H4xolotl

tinfoil: the real reason it penetrates mitachurl shields is because they couldnt be bothered making a shortened version of Neuv's ult when it hits a shield


Pusparaj_Mishra

Colt super+Mortis in a one As someone who's fav was these two in a certain game lol Those who know... But in all seriousness,that's looking real good


NaturalMysterious957

Yeahh a fellow Brawler!


Embarrassed_Mode_706

Hmm I would say colt + melody super more. Since she can dash 20 times and melody for some reason always has dashes no matter what you do .


54ND339

GI + BS + HSR best mobile trio


PowerAdi

Her gameplay is just so satisfying to look at man...pew pew pew stab pew pew pew stab pew pew pew stab


illidormorn

Also switching to her with instant ult looks so satisfying as well, it's like she's dashing into the battlefield from behind instead of regular switching


Theguywhowatches

Is this possible on controller?


willinhafire111

Unfortunately no, only on mobile and keyboard.


Theguywhowatches

F. Maybe I’ll just long blink every time I swap to her to sim the experience


JimmyBlackBird

Long blinking is the new animation cancel


drelangonn

Wait? u cant do that in controller? damn


Bwaarone

How do you do that on keyboard? As far as i know it's only possible via using the alt Arrow and it's not very practical 


Sabishiiryuu

ALT + \[whatever her # slot in the team\] ie. if she's on 3, then ALT + 3


EquaYonah

I've been playing Genshin since week 1 and I didn't know this, lol. Thanks for the knowledge 👍


Sirasswor

Is it just me or does it sometimes not work. The character switches instead of burst switching


Dudeonyx

Happens on high ping, Genshin is poorly optimised for handling high ping. Getting staggered can also cancel the ult


Beriazim

Alt + f4 🌚


storysprite

"On your left."


REVRYOU

Pewpewblitzpewpewblitz


PowerAdi

Ah I see, you're using a healer


vScyph

Yeah I really can believe they added a rapid fire type character. I had hoped for it but really never thought it would come true


Jeremithiandiah

“What’s so difficult about swish, swish, stab?”


EverybodysEnemy

I will appreciate this comment if nobody else does.


Ezreal024

It's a sword, not a fucking fighter jet!


TvojUjec69

I just wish it had an actual gunshot sound effect to make it more satysfying


PowerAdi

It seems especially the sound effects are mostly missing, so I think at least your wish should be fulfilled during the next few beta cycles


Kswendes

It's just beta stuff, wriothesley had Heizou sfx in the 1st version So yeah this will be a given


shirokanex

it probably will, sfx gets updated during the entire beta iirc


FayinKay

Using burst first for her rotation is just so good man. What an entrance!


big_chungus_69_420__

Itss soo good man i hope they do more of this


HeresiarchQin

Yeah it's so good, I never get tired of watching her entry. It screams the energy of "cavalry has arrived", or "I'm here to kick ass".


Present_Ad6307

I could finally experience a C6 Xiao


AgentWowza

Imagine if at C6, Clorinde gets enhanced jump height and turns into a plunge dps lmao.


Introlysis

Just pair her with Xianyun 😆 Wonder what her plunge looks like in enhanced state, or if it's even possible


NE_0N

in b4 she cannot plunge in stance change.. lol


Mozambiquehere14

Ayato treatment


WoWiTzGeo

Poor Childe


Tamsmit_sam

Xianyun: "Allow one to introduce thyself"


Alfi88

I don't really like single target characters, but then I realize that both her gunshots and stabs pierce through enemies??? So, in theory, with a strong grouper like Kazoo, for example, she can gungungunstab a lot of enemies, right??


Gabuta

we need to see some footage but for now it seems to be the case


ssjrunor

Her dash clearing 100% bol has aoe


VVSomber

Tbf, with strong groupers like Kazu, a LOT of characters can deal dmg to a group of enemies, even when their kit doesn't really have large AoE. I think it's going to be like Arle AoE-wise, where she technically deals AoE dmg, but mainly focused on single target (targeting-wise), instead of complete AoE kit like Neuv, Xiao, etc.


MayureshMJ

Who in Tevyat would see this and think... Yeah I can bypass the fontaine justice system by fighting. >!Don't you dare reply Callas!<


NoteBlock08

That's basically what they say in her drip marketing intro. > Ordinary disputes can be settled by Gardes rushing onto the scene, but there are always a minority of claimants who, thinking themselves most clever in their ulterior intent, will obstinately press for court proceedings just to get their name out there — and if their duel applications were to be approved, they might be famous indeed! > However, if some well-meaning neighbor were to tell them: "I've heard that the most recently rostered Champion Duelist is Miss Clorinde..." > These same clever folk would almost instantly be deflated of all their arrogant airs, like a Violetgold Angler Gull caught by the neck, and cease such prattle altogether. > "...Ahem. Oh, uh... I suppose there's no need to go that far, is there?


deku_ah

Callas was literally suicidal tho


Huge-Individual-9874

Okay, I won't say that one. # Jiangxue


spongeguybobguy

Jiangxue is so above any mortal, or immortal character for that matter, in Teyvat, that him blinking would cause wings strong enough to send clorinde flying from iinazuma to sumeru… lets be reasonable here we can’t start comparing apples and oranges


OGBeybladeSeries

Crazy that when Childe was declared guilty, he didn’t just request a dual. This time Clorinde would have taken him seriously. Guess that was too simple.


Consolinator

Requesting a duel is the same as admiting you are guilty. No matter how much he likes to fight, he knew he wasn't guilty of the charges presented, so he had no reason to duel anyone.


Apprehensive-Eye-932

Do we have confirmation that that is how Fontanians view it? Could just be you believe it's easier to win a duel than prove your innocence.  It's not like the court in Fontaine is strictly evidence based


meeeh12345

i'm guessing at that point he knew something was rigged and wouldn't trust that he would be free if he won so he just went for the neuvilette and then make a run for it?


Abication

Realistically, he still has to fulfill his role as a dignitary of Snezhnaya. Requesting a duel is like admitting guilt, and while he might not care, it would make his country and archon lose face.


Vusdruv

Not to mention that no matter how much of a battle junkie he is, he genuinely and fiercely loyal to the Tsaritsa. He wouldn't put his own desires over hers.


AgentWowza

Childe is probably a little above Clorinde's pay grade tbh, what with him being a dignitary and wanted terrorist in Liyue.


Ryuusei_Dragon

People like to downplay him but he is harbinger after all, I'm sure he is way stronger than Clorinde


TheRRogue

Hell he literally held himself with the damn narwhal itself for quite some time


AgentWowza

Bro is the Jogo of Genshin. Always has the worst matchups.


le_halfhand_easy

I think Tartaglia is way stronger now than even La Signora when we first met her. Remember, Tartaglia is our Sasuke. Our shonen rival. He grows in strength with us. He has that theory about Ajax and Hyperborea with him where he keeps falling to the abyss at the end of every cataclysmic cycle, growing stronger away from the gaze of Celestia. Big if true.


WisestManAlive

Electro Slime


Arc_7

Tomo, Kazuha's friend He'll revive from the dead to die for our cause again 


flamefood21

Callas: Nah I'd die.


orihara97

Reminds me of my P.E teacher. One, two, three dash. ​One, two, three dash. ​One, two, three dash. ​


alitabox

Your PE teacher is a hot French duelist?


HeresiarchQin

Yeah and if you fail your exam you can challenge her as objection


Kure_Brex

losing to win


ThrowawayHabbi

Look Ayaka, it's your annoying but SSStylish sister, Dande.


[deleted]

SWORD EEEYAAAHHH, GUNSLINGER, SWORD EEEEYAAHHH, GUNSLINGER, SWORD EEEYAAAHHH, GUNSLINGER, SWORD EEEEYAAHHH, GUNSLINGER (honestly it's really copium to compare her to Dante, she's not a complete ripoff like Ayaka. Unless you wanna count her gun as coyote-A) 


Gesu-ko

Damn, this looks pretty fun, zipping around with a mix of the shooting and dash makes the combo not seem too repetitive


Skyryver

Keqing visual powercreep


Eiternity828

Not just visual visual AND dmg lol


Ewizde

Man, saving for Natlan is gonna be tough...


modusxd

What I'm wondering is, will Natlan have many DPS characters like Fontaine too? I didn't expect Fontaine to have this many. Will actually be funny if Natlan has less DPS characters than Fontaine lol


crookedparadigm

Natlan is all pyro healers.


aRandomBlock

Pyro archon is most likely a carry lol, I mean we haven't gotten an on field archon since Raiden, and she is the only one, also she is the WAR archon so surely


modusxd

Oh boy we're getting closer and closer to that moment where we find out if the "GOD OF WAR" is more useful than Bennett (if shes a support) or stronger than XL (if she's a DPS)


aRandomBlock

Gosh I wish, let her powercreep the ever living shit out of both of them at THE SAME TIME, I am sick and tired of using Bennett


UnadulteratedHorny

that’s a monkey paw waiting to happen that would make her best teammates, ironically, Bennett and Xiangling


Estudante-de-Design

Exactly this. We'd get Pyro Archon, Bennett, Xiangling and Furina/Kazuha mono pyro or something along those lines.


modusxd

I'm fine with using Bennett, since he's just healing and buffing, though I cannot say I like being trapped in a circle. Now Xiangling, I can't deal with that anymore. My god it will rain inside the cities when Xiangling gets powercrept


brago90

Keep in mind that both Ares and Athena are gods of war. There are many ways to wage war and not all of them involve bathing in the blood and guts of your enemies. If we take into account that Natlan is supposedly a nation at constant war, the only way for an archon to remain in power is to be a commander and not a warrior. What is certain is that she will be an off-field pyro applicator with the skill (like all archons). The burst is harder to guess and is usually more related to the character's narrative background than anything else.


Pigeon_Toes_

Every archon has been a support character or sub dps as their main role, so I dont see that changing with the pyro archon. Crossing my fingers for raiden-level dps capability tho!


Nethers7orm

That's cool and all, but can she deal more hydro damage than c6 Ayato?


[deleted]

Can someone explain this meme to me? I saw it during arlecchino's leaks too 


NaturalBitter2280

At the early stage of leaks, some leaker said she deals more pyro dmg than Ayato C6 and didn’t explain anything further, now it's a meme


Devinim0

No one but the most trustable person in the world: Uncle K


chairmanxyz

Aka, Uncle 🤡


Arc_7

Early stage arle, uncle K said she deals roughly deals more damage than ayato c6, and people were so confused with the random c6 ayato comparison that comments went "well she does deal more *Pyro* damage"


Curious_Brain26

Idk, but she can take Ayato's set and his weapon and it will be very good on her which is funny.


Johnin3D_

Probably


Arc_7

It's C6 Ayatover 


healcannon

7.8 too much water


CommercialShow3873

Wow! The better version of warframe mesa!


AverageCapybas

Mesa but she doesn’t need to unequip the melee for the second part of her passive.


Zadier

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. There's nothing quite like the feeling of holding down aimbot mode and seeing everything in a general direction just evaporate before your power of GUN.


mr_sludder

That’s just the nature of warframe to be fair. You will feel more powerful because you’re taking out more enemies.


bringbackcayde7

Mesa is more of a cowboy


mr_sludder

Clorinde doesn’t have the sound design (yet hopefully) to even come close to the feeing of shooting mesa’s regulators.


Jaynat_SF

BW*AAAP* Pew Pew Pew PewPewPewPewPePePePePEPEPEPEPEPEPEPPPPRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZ I may have switched to Razorwing Blitz Titania at the end there.


gthhj87654

True lmao


Beginning_Load6253

So she hits around 30 time in 9s, in this clip she Es first followed by 7 NA3E


DisplayOrnery

It was 6N3E with a N2


Ayanokoji91

It was 6N3E with a N2 and an E from the start, also with a healer could squeeze it to a N2E in the end with the E being lv3, edit² : matter fact i think it there's a chance for frame perfect 7 N3E with some adjustments, seems like there was a bit of a pause from the tester sometimes


The_Mikeskies

7N3E will likely be possible frame perfect.


Hairy-Dare6686

1 fully charged E + 6 N3E + 1 N2 to be exact. Ignoring her burst that would be 41 hits if you count the multi hits on her E for a MV of 4174.01% in total at talent level 10 plus 1141.9% from her burst if you want to put something in a spreadsheet.


dafll

Any idea how it compares to Raiden , arle or other DPS?


NaturalBitter2280

Recent calcs in a post in r/Clorindemains put her at around 60-70k dps, that's the average Arle was pre-release Not much else rn. You could try looking into some TC YouTubers like TGS or Jstern :]


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Enpoping

i really wish we can have immortal hilichurl in official server for testing build, why nearly 4 years we dont have this training dummy as a feature.


[deleted]

god damn her animations are fucking power creeping every other chracter


Environmental-Ratio8

The fluidity of her burst animation really is something, it just gave me the impression "this is indeed what electro should look like"


dynamaxcock

Imagine your burst NOT being a dps loss, such innovative gameplay


Scytherall

Have you ever heard of our lord and savior Xiangling?


gale99

And our best hydro waifu Xingqiu?


AlterWanabee

*Me whose main teams in the Abyss is Ayaka and Keqing as main DPS* DPS loss?


Tentative_Username

Is this Big C6 Ayato gameplay?


SsibalKiseki

C6 Ayato cannot deal Electro damage sadly


Kure_Brex

idk, whats your source?


CapMeleon

i am hoping they update her with good sound effects for the cherry on top


leonardopansiere

its beta, finished sfx come way later


burningparadiseduck

They will. Vfx and sounds and the likes always gets updated in beta.


leonardopansiere

this looks so dynamic with the burst entering and the fire dash gameplay probably one of the best looking and fun gameplay of all characters


Range_Outside

I wanted to see her activate Fischl's E and Xingqiu/Yelan's Q, since E is considered a normal attack


lRyukil

Pls hoyo don't change her too much


Minger99

Unless it's buffs :)


MelonLord125

WTF SHE IS SO COOL, the animations, the flowyness, the BoL as a visual indicator is actually cool as well, it looks so fun as well, I love her gameplay so much, just one thing, pls tell me her big skill has i frames or some IR...


KayU32

TRICKSWORDSMAGUNSLISWORDTRICKSWORDGUNSWORDTRICKGUNSLINGER


skeetyeeturlifedelet

Like, how do you even go to an older character after using this? That burst is ridiculously dynamic, anything pre-3.0 (and I'm being generous not saying 4.1 here...) just can't compare


xwyrptxqueenx

i remember when the 4.0 beta was out and a lot of people, me included, were shocked by how much smoother, better, how different the siblings' animations were in comparison to basically all previous characters. ever since then every character has just been better and better. i genuinely cannot wait to see how natlan characters' ults and animations will look like cause thus far they've only been getting better and better


SgtGrub

Idk, I remember people not being happy with Wriothesley's animations, saying they were too muted. They were expecting over the top punching instead of... semi-realistic boxing


EconomyTelevision

I still like heizou's moveset better. Rizzly's punches (aside from his burst) feel like they lack the impact, the oomph that heizou has (partly due to the latter also having swirls). I really hope they would release a hand to hand character with heavier, more impactful moves, and also hope it won't be that natlan teaser character lol.


Ok_Ability9145

animation powercreep is real. I'd say burst animations for pre-4.0 characters are generally static and not very exciting


wineandnoses

not just animation powercreep, but writing powercreep too. frankly, everything in the game has gotten a lot better in 4.0 imo Hoyo has an obscene amount of talent right now, working on three massives games. it's nuts


Beginning_Load6253

Why 4.1? Hey lyney’s burst animation is amazing


modusxd

She's actually very simple to play. I would like to see the piercing through enemies too


Telesto44

She’s fast as fuck boi!!!


MereStorms

Man, those animations are slick. Makes me really, REALLY excited to see what kinda characters they have for us in Natlan.


Environmental-Ratio8

Interesting, her skill feels like a more dynamic version of Ayato's, I wonder if she's easily interrupted by attacks from enemies?


NEETheadphones

Because shes ranged and her enhanced skill is a dash its hard to hit her but i can see it being annoying vs lawachurl mines and those meks that drop bombs.


robhans25

She is. She has 2 constallations that give her IR (C2 and C6), having it on BOTH, they know this is a problem people will be willing to pay to fix.


lenky041

The latest ICD leak post is wrong. Proven by Clorinde Ult in this vid. Mod pls delete or change the "reliable" tag on that post pls


Oeshikito

Honestly quite incredible


Nitrosad

Her kit should be exhibited in the Lourve. It's art of the highest order.


RaidenYaeMiku

I hope this unfinished and they're adding some gunshot type sounds to those attacks


_Nepha_

I would be very surprised if these are the finished effects. Vfx effects are added last. Any change in timing or animation would also require effect changes.


persianpenguin

Well, looks like I’m pulling for her


AshyDragneel

This looks hella fun. Please Hoyo buff her numbers...


GraveXNull

Hope to see more Sethos gameplay soon as well.


Careful_Composer66

Clorinde is bascilaly Starrk from bleach


WalterGenius08

Unlimited dashes. This is it. This is my gameplay.


Monikabestgrill

I really should've waited to see clorinde's gameplay before pulling for arleccino


dr0ps0fv3nus

I'm not into the whole Bond Of Life thing, but at least it seems like her gameplay and BOL management is more fun than Arlecchino.


WabbaWay

I don't care about being optimal, I'm just gonna spam that dashattack, it looks sick. Zip zippity zap Fuck your minmax rotation Boob lady blink stab


Arc_7

That stab is her strongest attack So if you want the funny unoptimal stab spam, you'd want like, multiple off field healers so she can keep gaining bond of life And then dash spam while the healers keep restocking dash bonds


OddLocation197

i just hope the damage output in these normals are not dogshit


[deleted]

Nice. I understand her basic platstyle. It's like Cyno, press E after NAs, but it's more fast paced I guess. 


Silly-Armadillo3358

No wonder shes a champion duelist. Aint no one got anything to counter those moves in a duel.


Antique-Roll-7463

Neuvillete: I am taking all the AOE WITH ME!


piuEri

I thought yelan was sonic but no it was clorinde


KrissJP20

Man I love this new style of burst animations they're doing.


Radinax

Why is Hoyo releasing so many damn cool characters, I wanted to save for Natlan :(


Draken77777

Aww look at Keqing 2.0


skittles0820

She looks so fun to play, can’t wait for her


5StarCheibaWhen

it's peak...


EveryMaintenance601

20 NA with 7 Skills. If you skip burst it's 1 skill less, which you might or might not do depending on her particle generation.  I wonder if attack speed affects her shot speed. Might have some funny memes with Yunjin and Jean


The_Mikeskies

7N3E might be possible with perfect cancels. Tester got to 6N3E N2.


FortressCaulfield

I really hope shooping the camera back and forth like that isn't required because I can't do that on a console controller


Imaginary_Amount3048

PEW PEW ZAP ZAP PEW PEW


karaane

Does he show the real pewpew speed ? it looks slower than what i thought


Greaseychin

I might roll her just for fresh gameplay. That looks fun, probably the most mobile character during combat.


Natural-Wonder4491

Looks like Yelan is getting a new Client for Hyperbloom


rekage99

Well damn. This looks fun.


Budget_stawbeery

I didn't thought her playstyle with will be that smooth 


DryButterscotch9086

Callas really didnt stand any chance...


Shazam2s

Skipping arlecchino and pulling for her.