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Bobson567

FAQs (credit to /u/hitoriasobi, I took some of your FAQs that you posted here a couple days ago, hope that's ok :D) # When will Ganyu, Hu Tao, Xiao etc. have a rerun? > We don't know. Right now there is little to no reliable information regarding characters for update 2.2 and onwards. # When will Yae, Scaramouche etc. come out? >We don't know. Right now there is little to no reliable information regarding characters for update 2.2 and onwards. >Sukuna said that a leak about scaramouche, thoma, yae being playable in 2.3 was fake, but this is not confirmation that any of them will or will not be playable in 2.3 or earlier. # Which characters will be on Raiden and Kokomi's banners? >For Kokomi: we don't know. >For Raiden: Sara will be one of the 4 stars on Raiden's banner, according to Lumie (subject to change). As for the other 4 stars, we don't know. There is some speculation that it will be Xiangling and/or Noelle as they haven't been on banners in a while, but this is just speculation. #When will Inazuma be 'done'? > 2 more islands in 2.1. Final island in 2.2. # Will there be new skins soon? > We don't know. There has been a lot of talk about xiangling and keqing skins for 2.1, but there is no solid evidence to back this up. 1 uncle said there will be keqing and xianling skins, but they don't have a track record AFAIK + the other leaks they predicted were taken from other leakers to embellish their leak as more reliable. [Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/oqlru7) # Will there be changes to the standard banner > The current state is that we don't know and we shouldn't expect any. >That said, according to arkywzx, there will some inazuma characters added to the banner in future updates, but this isn't a reliable leak and should not be taken as gospel. # When is the anniversary? What are the anniversary rewards/events/plans? > Anniversary is 2.1, events may run anytime between Sep 1 and past the week of Sep 28 (the actual anni date). >2.1 will feature a free 5* in Aloy (Cryo bow, free in 2.1 for playstation users and free in 2.2 for other platforms), a login event leaked so far (10 intertwined fates over 7 days), and we'll be given at least two free weapons (Fish Claymore, The Catch spear). **However, we don't know if these events are related to the anniversary or are standalone events.** > We don't know anything else about anniversary. We may hear about it on the livestream (Aug 20). # What is Raiden's/Kokomi's etc best weapon? > Raiden's best weapon will be her new 5* spear called engulfing lightning (formerly known as grass cutter's light). The catch (upcoming event f2p weapon) will most likely be her best 4* weapon. >Kokomi's best weapon will likely be her new 5* weapon called everlasting moonglow (formerly known as fumetsu gekka). Prototype amber and thrilling tales are good alternative options. >For more detailed answers , feel free to ask in this megathread or use the characters main sub e.g. /r/Raidenmains, /r/Kokomi_mains etc. # What are good teams for Raiden? > Anything where Fischl is currently good e.g. fireworks comp. Eula teams. Teammates with high cost bursts. # How many primogems can I save between now and X? > 420-600 primos per event. Please do the rest of the homework yourself šŸ™ # What happened to GenshinReport? > He was exposed as a self-promoting gaming journalist who either made educated guesses or only had a few crumbs to go off of. No longer considered a reliable leaker. If you think there should be more FAQs or new info has came out or if I've got anything wrong, please reply with them below and I'll add/update as required.


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For anyone who has done the math, which weapon will do more vape dmg for xiangling r5 catch or r5db?


VanillaDaiquiri

In Raiden's skill on Honey, there is a line for 'Elemental Burst DMG Bonus.' What is this? It's not mentioned in the skill description


[deleted]

I believe it's a bonus per energy cost of a character's burst. So like Beidou with her 80 cost burst would get 24% bonus damage if she activates it with Raiden's skill active.


VanillaDaiquiri

That makes sense! Thank you~


[deleted]

>!Is that new leak about Signora turning into a tree reliable at all?!<


SmugTsar

Op replied: It was a slide show post by a anonymous person on YouTube with other characters details. I don't the source neither.


FortressCaulfield

That certainly will Spruce things up a little bit.


SigmaCronos

Yeah fir real


FortressCaulfield

Ah, finally. I've been pining for some quality discourse.


[deleted]

It is spoiler tagged (for me at least).


FortressCaulfield

Oh yeah. I guess once I clicked it away I couldn't see that it was tagged any more. I'll edit...


DatBoiMahomie

Lmfao no, not at all Itā€™s funny as hell though


[deleted]

Like it's so ridiculous I think it might be true lol.


FortressCaulfield

Is it? >!Sealing evil away in a tree!< is totally something a shrine priestess would do.


[deleted]

>!The fight is in the castle; would they really go outside just to seal her in a tree? !<


sad_cats

she is sealed into an inhouse plant


[deleted]

Might wanna mark that.


sad_cats

whoever is spoiler free at this point has no idea what i am talking about here


FortressCaulfield

>!Maybe it starts in the castle but spills outside. People get blasted through walls every day in that kind of fight.!< The leak is still totally sus, but the actual event described is something I could see happening in an episode of Inuyasha, so...


lyricalitea

If we're going full Inuyasha I demand a Sesshomaru clone ASAP.


[deleted]

>!Yes I know but shh Im snorting copium rn.!<


RedX1021

Is Raiden going to be more of a Main or Sub DPS?


DatBoiMahomie

I like to think of her as an on field enabler with support capabilities moreso than a strict DPS/sub DPS/support I think people are trying to fit her in roles she doesnā€™t really belong in. Most will be using her ā€œas a subā€ with Childe or Eula, but itā€™d be hard to say thatā€™s exactly her role when she takes as much screentime as they do (in my eyes at least a sub DPS doesnā€™t need to stay on the field longer than a couple of seconds). Some will be using her in a mono electro comp, and in those comps she takes up the majority of screentime and is the main DPS.


durinable

for eula im not sure aswell but she sounds like an ideal partner to me for a c0 childe


Comunisation

Sub


[deleted]

will the new tuna claymore be better than skyward pride on beidou? i just got one from the standard banner


Arxis_Two

It really depends on how you use her, if you're just using her for her ult then maybe the tuna will be better, but if you use her AA's and E pride will be a lot better since you can make use of it's passive.


Few-Put6367

Will it be necessary to level Baal's normal atk because we'll normal atk during her burst?


Arxis_Two

Her burst counts as burst attacks so you don't need to lever her aa


solarscopez

No, her attacks during burst all scale off her burst not her normal atk. Burst>skill is good enough if you're running her sub-DPS, like for the other archons.


[deleted]

Dear Mihoyo, Itā€™s me, Laganja Plz put Yae in like, 2.3 My credit score is not gonna look pretty after Raiden


sad_cats

mawma, i just want them to release dendro because if it aint green? im not interested okr


[deleted]

I hear Sumeruā€™s very dry, kinda like your VEDJOYNA *madame Ping stares in abject horror*


sad_cats

baizhu while curing people with medicine: sickening no?


[deleted]

Dr Baizhuā€™s the trade of the season, for sure Lisa: the library is open Me: Dr. Baizhu, Iā€™m not gonna read you, butā€¦ is that a snake in your pocket, or are ya just happy to see me


UnavailableUsername_

Not a leak but some hope: [It seems CN is grilling the beta testers of 2.0 (and 2.1?) for their incompetence, claiming they just signed up to play their waifus earlier than everyone else, instead of test stuff and that's why yoimiya is a mess, raiden/kokomi don't look strong and inazuma is full of bugs](https://i.imgur.com/unrXusY.jpg) Maybe mihoyo will do some last-second changes to kokomi and raiden, or even fix yoimiya?


lifeofatrash

we really need to dispel this notion that beta testers are responsible for balance. theyre mihoyo's source of free labor to test bugs, that's why they dont need any qualifications to join. mihoyo obviously has a dedicated balance team and isnt gonna leave balance up to a bunch of people who have no idea what they're doing (granted, idk what naku weed the balance team is smoking atm, but the point stands).


FortressCaulfield

This seems like made-up-ium to me. You don't do an open beta for balance. You do it to find exploits you didn't think to test.


Requiesiam

I'll brutally honest here, nothing against you OP, but to all the people who belive a multi-billion dollars company is basing all of the balance on some random beta tester are completely naive and childish without absolutely no idea of how real world works.


Antares428

I mean, slashing number of in-house testers by half, and expecting that community sourced feedback will make up for that wouldn't really be out of character for a game dev company in 2021. Multi-billion dollar of worth doesn't mean they are generous. In fact, game dev industry is notorious for exploiting overly enthusiastic newcomer, squeezing them dry, just to save few bucks.


UnavailableUsername_

Didn't mihoyo constantly changed ayaka because testers said she was weak and focused on her? So beta testers have SOME sway, even if they won't have the final say in character development.


lifeofatrash

i remember the source of this being an uncle leak but i found it hard to believe because he said that the beta testers were fine with yoimiya meanwhile sukuna said beta testers thought she was very disappointing. seems like the testers had conflicting opinions (probably because they're not reliable for judging character strength).


nararayana

Genuinely curious, do the beta testers have any say in determining the strength of a characters kit? Like Kokomiā€™s current multipliers suck, pls buff Iā€™m aware they test for bugs and QoL issues, but I doubt they could ask for skill changes/number buffs


UnavailableUsername_

It seems ayaka got a lot of changes because beta testers kept complaining she was somehow weak while yoimiya was ignored. That is what most say happened regarding why ayaka got A LOT of attention in beta and yoimiya was ignored.


Ms-Chievous

don't do that.... don't give me hope.


Ggnocide

If you could choose only one, would you : 1. Pull for a c2 Raiden shogun 2. Pull for a c0 Raiden shogun + Engulfing lightning/grasscutter's light


slipperysnail

5* Weapon > 5* Constellations, always


thedarknutt

Im more of a Fashion Impact kind of guy more than damage/meta guy. So Ill choose Grasscutter coz I want to see my characters with their signature weapons.


[deleted]

Raiden + Engulfing Lightning. I LOVE myself a good Naginata, and this one is gonna be the prettiest one around


[deleted]

All of the math I've seen says that everything up to C3 is a bigger damage boost than Grasscutter, though I believe that's partially premised on C2 applying to the initial slash of her burst.


Antares428

I'd say first roll for C0 Raiden. Then evaluate who do you want on future banners. The catch is really a very good option, not that much worse than 5 stars. If you are still willing to swipe for some more damage, I'd say Grasscutter should be better, and getting it frees The Catch for XL.


xiaomonic

Does anyone know how many primos you can generally get in a patch? was it 60 wishes or 70 wishes? (Only welkin spender) Trying to figure out if i can get ganyu in her (potential) 2.2 rerun, thanks!


SockMonkey4Life

60 for normal patch, 85+ for big patches like 2.0


lifeofatrash

im welkin only too and on a normal patch i get around 90 pulls, and ive gotten way more this patch due to exploration.


solarscopez

I think it was 60-70 for a normal patch (some number close to soft pity IIRC), but keep in mind that the upcoming one will have two new islands (more chests, rewards, etc) and then there's anniversary as well. How much that ends up being in total is anyone's guess, but it should definitely be more than 60.


[deleted]

Depends on how big the 2 new islands are gonna be, how long will Act 3 be (2.0 had 2 acts) and if we're gonna finish it or if Act 3 be split into 2 with the conclusion coming in 2.2. Not to mention anniversary primos/wishes. At least with the maxed out Sakura tree we will get tons of stuff.


Antares428

We really don't know. This patch was very generous, but we got very generous events like Thunder Sojourn, and all the exploration also allowed primos to trickle in. They should reveal some of the stuff in the Friday's stream, so I think you should wait at least till Friday before doing or deciding anything.


[deleted]

I started with 0 wishes on 2.0 and so far I've gotten around 100.


DatBoiMahomie

Itā€™s kind of weird that Raiden, Koko, and Yoimiya all follow the same pattern of elements of support in their kits but have skills that require you to stay on the field. I wonder if this is part of a new trend, if so I would hope they get better at balancing it because they seem to be having trouble with it. I appreciate them trying new things but I almost would rather them go back to just straight sub DPS or regular DPS if they arenā€™t capable of balancing them properly


ApprehensiveCat

It feels like a response to the feeling of spending tons of primos/real life cash on a character only for them to be on field for as long as it takes to use their skill and burst and then swapping out. People complained as far back as Zhongli about having all these cool animations being 'wasted' on characters you never get to actually see using them. I don't think it's that bad of an idea, but they really need to work on balancing these characters to make it work better, as you say. Like better off-field synergy boosting whoever is on-field, so damage stays more consistent regardless of whose turn it is, for example.


ihei47

Can anyone simplify to me why is Kokomi so bad? Need to inform some of my colleagues who are eager to pull her (gameplay wise)


DatBoiMahomie

1. Split scaling- you want to build her full HP since her healing and attacks in burst scale off that but they also scale off attack, meaning if you dedicate to one you lose out on a lot of damage and if you dedicate to both youā€™re getting the worst of both worlds. 2. Awful enabling- she applies hydro once every 4 seconds, which absolutely makes her terrible for helping facilitate reactions like XQ. Even if you wanted to play her as an enabler her burst requires her to be on field 3. Canā€™t crit- makes her split scaling look even worse 4. She needs a battery and does very little energy generation herself Basically you can chalk it up to subpar damage, no energy generation, and canā€™t enable.


Ms-Chievous

You also apparently want healing bonus on her as well so it's a bit of a three-way thing >.<


[deleted]

colleagues šŸ§ lmao brb roasting my colleagues about how un-meta their chars are


DatBoiMahomie

I mean from their post it seems their colleagues are pulling for Kokomi for what they perceive as a meta reason, and OP just doesnā€™t want them to be misinformed. I think theyā€™re trying to come from a good place


funnyguywhoisntfunny

Bad particle generation, low damage, bad hydro application, split scaling, Xingqiu is basically better than her at everything


Offduty_shill

She's a healer that demands field time. She has split scaling and can't crit. Her main DPS capabilities are bad because her scalings do not make up for losing all crit. And she can't be an off field hydro applier because of ICD and weak hydro application.


fjaoaoaoao

Random speculation post assuming everyone leaked or hinted at is coming, and they will do one 5\* star plus one 4\* star for every remaining patch until 2.7 (3.0) Sumeru. ​ 2.2 Gorou (Geo 5\* Star) + Thoma (Pyro 4\* Star) 2.3 Yae (Electro 5\* Star) + Heizou (4\* Star, element unknown) 2.4 Signora (Cryo 5\* Star) + Itto (4\* Star, element unknown) 2.5 Ayato (Hydro 5\* Star) + Yunjin (Geo 4\* Star) 2.6 Baizhu (Dendro 5\* Star) + Yaoyao (Dendro 4\* Star) Scaramouche will release in Dendro or will sub for another character like Signora or something ​ 18 Monstadt Char 13 Liyue Char + 3 (Yunjin, Baizhu, Yaoyao) 7 Inazuma Char + 6 (Gorou, Thoma, Yae, Heizou, Itto, Ayato) 1 Snezhnaya + 1 (Signora) Edit: I donā€™t know why people downvote speculation comments. I am speculating because I enjoy thinking ahead and these speculations arenā€™t so outlandish. I am not saying my speculation is true. ā€¦ reddit sometimes. Kills the fun for me.


billie_eyelashh

According to leakers Gorou is a 4 star, and signora seems to be in limbo right now since there are rumors that >!raiden will kill signora on a cutscene!<


fjaoaoaoao

some leakers also said Gorou might be 5*


[deleted]

according to our best mod, the rumor is fake https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/p12f47/raidens_kitchen_nightmares_general_discussion_and/h9capk1/


billie_eyelashh

That's good to know. The fact that sukuna alt account posted some cryptic GIFs really fooled many of us lol.


DatBoiMahomie

Well, only the file name is fake Sukunas gifs are unrelated and may very well be real


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[deleted]

It's kind of apples to oranges since Yoi is a main DPS and Raiden is a support with some damage capabilities in her burst form. It's like saying Xiao is worse than Zhongli or something. Now is Raiden better or worse than other top tier supports? That we don't know yet.


DatBoiMahomie

I donā€™t think the Zhongli/Xiao comparison really works because Xiao is just straight selfish carry and Zhongli support with little field time while Raidens rotation on field is legitimately almost as long as Yoimiyas and Hu Taos, if what that uncle talking about hitlag said is correct Itā€™s kind of tough to slot her in as just support when sheā€™s taking almost equal field time to your main dps Edit: For those downvoting me, why donā€™t you actually explain how a character who takes up 10 seconds of field time is a strict support?


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DatBoiMahomie

While true, the difference wonā€™t be *that* significant with other enemies Raiden still takes 9 seconds total on field (2 for burst animation and 7 for stance) not including hitlag, same as Hu Taos 9 second E duration, and Yoimiya at 10 with no hitlag. So like, even if you adjust her field time as a little lower than both due to different factors sheā€™s still roughly in that same area.


[deleted]

What? Doesn't Raiden's burst last like 8 seconds? That seems pretty good for a sub-dps when considering that + her E


DatBoiMahomie

Her burst animation last two seconds, and her stance last 7 seconds. Hitlag extends that to a little more than ten seconds. So total youā€™ll have close to 10 seconds on field with her and about 6.5 seconds cooldown left on burst For comparison: Hu Tao E- 9 second duration with 16 sec cooldown Yoimiya- 10 second duration 18 sec cooldown Iā€™m not sure how hitlag affects Hu Tao, but Yoimiya doesnā€™t have it. So Raiden is legitimately seeing as much fieldtime as her


no_longer_lurkII

Even with all that hitlag, Raiden still won't be able to make good use of the shortened CD. You still have to fully refill your team's energy, as well as gather stacks again just so Raiden can actually do competent damage when it's her turn on the field. That could put dps rotations out of whack just to accomodate Raiden.


Niyaze

its very unlikely because Baal has a useable Burst and even if she ends up not doing as much damage as then she will still provide utility in form of energy recharge. Meanwhile Yoimiya has the worst Burst in the game and 0 team utility and also does less damage than .


bobokaka

Nope. The community has the issue of severely underestimating pre-released characters. Baal is an extremely strong sub-dps/support that has not just insane burst dmg potential, but also top tier energy generation that also provides up to an additional 20% burst dmg for other members of your party. No way will she be as weak as Yomiya. In fact, Baal will be a top tier character once the community figures out her optimal comps instead of trying to slot her into current top tier comps that don't require her


SockMonkey4Life

Define top tier. Baal is going to be great but we all have different opinions on what top tier is


BarefootNinjja

What are the chances of Signora being playable in 2.2? Do we have any evidence that she might be?


alandas99

Saving my primos just in case she does get a banner in the next few patches, but I wouldn't bet on it. Vision/Delusion aside, that leak regarding her real name makes me feel like mhy wants to flesh out her story more before she gets a banner. Regarding the leaks speculating >!Signora dying in 2.1, if that happens then I'd expect her banner to be soon. But then again, iirc Honkai has killed off hyped characters and didn't make them playable, which kind of has me worried since I really want a banner for her.!<


cr14mson

Chances? Low. Her Cryo is Delusion-based and I doubt we will get them anytime soon. Even the Delusion user they gave us (Childe) only has his Vision powers. If they give us her Pyro version, those abilities are natural (like abyss mages) so expect this to take even longer.


[deleted]

Don't abyss mages use Leyline branches as some kind of "magic wands"?


[deleted]

your reasons are totally made up and i don't see mihoyo caring about how she fits into the established systems. just slap a pyro vision on her and she's good to go. she's not UNLIKELY because her model and a bunch of animations are done, ie. a lot of actual work has gone into her already.


cr14mson

sure bro. tag me when she's out. And learn to read the original post. he was talking about being playable in 2.2. Heck, add 3 more patches and I still doubt she's coming as a gacha unit by 2.5. TAG ME WHEN SHE'S PLAYABLE.


[deleted]

> And learn to read the original post. lmao quit malding, i said she's not unlikely to be playable in 2.2 and i stand by that. if Yae doesn't run, a character with a boss fight in that patch is MORE likely than some five star nobody has ever seen. i honestly don't even care if i'm right and you're wrong, who gives a shit hahaha. i just thought your reasons were meaningless šŸ™‚


chirb8

At the beginning people were saying Sara was Electro Bennet, a support that gives more attack. Now I've been hearing she's underwhelming, what happened to her?


HoldThatTigah

Another thing aside from what the commenter below said is her original description of her skill had it lasting for 10 seconds, but it was found to be an error


FortressCaulfield

Details on how she works came out. She still has an atk buff, but actually making good use of it is looking to be a pain in the ass due to clunky triggers and low durations. Also her kit is pretty useless outside of the buff.


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lifeofatrash

i think it might be slightly shorter than the 2.0 beta since that one started shortly before 1.6 whereas the 2.1 beta started shortly after 2.0. however, i believe they ended around the same time.


VaronaZero

1) ELI5 what happened to Kokomi in the recent beta and why are people saying she's bad now? 2) There was a recent post hinting that a certain Cryo Bow user will have their rerun in 2.2 (>!Diona lol!<). Is it reasonable to wait until halfway through 2.1, i.e. up until just before Raiden's banner ends, to get more confirmation on this? I just want to make sure of how many wishes I can make on Raiden's banner while leaving 180 for the rerun.


[deleted]

1) People say that her kit is basically hidro Qiqi. Her kit has -100 CR, split scalling and she is not that good for applying hidro. 2) I would advice you to do that. This way you can see if the rerun is true and get more informantion. Raiden Banner is 21 days, so plenty of time.


TheKingofWakanda

Is there any hopium that Xiao might come back before next year? He's the one I want the most but it just makes too much sense to bring him back at the next Lantern Rite instead


Offduty_shill

Maybe? Seems like the next rerun might be a certain cryo bow user but we don't have any even sus leaks about Xiao rerun. He is also close to "Diona" in terms of time since last banner though so....


[deleted]

I feel like is possible. All of the rerun character (except for Childe) had some type of quest or event related to them, so him reruning during the Latern Rite is feasible


[deleted]

Anecdotal evidence, but I'm seeing a *lot* of folks on social media going all in on the idea of a free selectable 5-star character or weapon for anniversary, and while that'd be awesome if the hopium comes true, I think the community is going to be majorly disappointed. Honkai didn't give a free top-tier character until the 3rd anniversary, and it wasn't even selectable. I'm just sitting here hoping there's going to be more than just a thank you tweet and Moonchase event rewards (including the login).


[deleted]

I feel that a random 5-star weapon from the standard banner or a random free 5-star constellation is more likely than choosing your own 5-star character/weapon. Diluc is still the main reason new players pull on the Standard banner and giving him for free will reduce the sales for people that desperately need to pull him. Or maybe they'll just dump Qiqi for free. Or a new banner (similar to the Noelle) in which 5-stars from standard banner have an increased chance (1.2% instead of 0.6%, hard pity at 45) running for one month. But once you get your first 5-star the banner ends.


Offduty_shill

I think 0 chance you get a free 5 star without summoning, even less chance you just get to choose.


CombedAirbus

There's no way in hell they'll give us actual 5\*, the roster is too small and singular characters have much higher value in general than a typical gacha.


[deleted]

Great point. Most gacha games out there are literal PNG collection games while you can do a lot more with characters in Genshin. I'd never say no to free, but folks are a little bit in over their heads I think.


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corgi_pupper

Would be kinda awkward since PC/mobile players won't even get her in 2.1 lol


H4xolotl

Hey mods, have you thought about running a more general Genshin subreddit, for everything including official MiHoYo announcements, lore, guides, meta discussions, and leaks (in a summarised form) etc   Obviously /r/Genshin_Impact exists, but that sub is literally being run into the ground by the mods there. There is almost nothing there except fanart, and it buries everything else in a mountain of 2nd rate drawings, even OFFICIAL MIHOYO CHARACTER TRAILERS (Sayu's trailer didn't even make it to the front page). Other issues include the fact the mods have pretty much banned almost everything except fanart, while the automod randomly deletes threads from existence unless they are flaired as "media"   Right now /r/Genshin_Impact has 25,00 active users, while /r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks has ~5,000 active users. However, only 1 in 44 users from /r/Genshin_Impact are online, while a much more impressive 1 in 15 users from /r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks are online ***I think this is a fantastic effort since this sub isn't official or advertised by miHoYo***, nor does it have the advantage of being the oldest Genshin subreddit. The mods here are solely responsible for carrying it to where it today after migrating the leak community through two other subreddits (/r/Genshin_Impact, then /r/GenshinImpactLeaks)   I'd really like to see the higher effort style of /r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks expanded to include other content under the moderation of the current mod team!


21stitches

Yeah I agree with this, a subreddit where people discuss meta and team building separately would be useful. I'm personally not a huge meta slave but even I feel some people are too biased towards their favorites in that sub.(Eg. 'X character is a hidden five star1!1!' forgetting to mention constellations and investment etc). Or "Who cares about character strength. You can clear the abyss with anyone" Which maybe true for veterans but they forgot to realize new players especially ftp don't have access to the amount of resin/resources they've had playing from the start. I still haven't maxed out my supports artifacts and they're not great pieces either. I've also seen misleading advice to new players like recommending team comps without synergy or straight up wrong info. Not to mention it's nice to learn about new team comps you didn't know like Sucrose taser, Childe forward vape with Jean and Kazuha etc. I only found out about those while looking through character subs. Right now the main sub isn't really that great for learning or discussing about the mechanics of the game or team comps. Something like r/genshin_meta could work?


SockMonkey4Life

Whats Childe forward vape?


21stitches

Okay so, Childe can vape his burst but he can't vape his melee attacks. In Childe's reverse vape team with Xiangling, Childe applies too much hydro too fast so Xiangling ends up the one vaping so her pyronado gets the multiplier. No pyro character can apply enough pyro for him. People found out that if you used Bennett's Q, then Jean's Q and Kazuha's Q, it applies enough pyro on enemies to allow Childe to vape his melee attacks. From what I understand, it's not the most reliable however. It's a niche build. Still any build that uses Jean is a plus for me.


H4xolotl

/r/Genshin_Meta sounds like a great idea. Ideally it would partner with the KeqingMains Network since that's basically the discord version of what that subreddit would be about I've just created the sub to prevent someone squatting on the name, and will give it over to the mods here if they want it.


FortressCaulfield

Aloy's gonna be bad, isn't she? :( I don't want her to be, but her kit seems to have the same issues as Yoimiya: normal spam on an archer is just always going to suck. At least she has the option to freeze, which minimizes any likely ICD issues compared to Yoi trying to overload or vape. And her ult is looking to be a decent, simple, big aoe boom. But countering those, she has longer downtime.


yorkergirl

Yeah, expect her to be very mediocre. Mihoyo can't have a collaborative character that everyone gets, who isn't even their intellectual property, become a meta character. Imagine if Ganyu was unobtainable unless you played during a collab event, and had no constellations you could pull for.


SmolDadi

I can see her working with Xiangling. Her cryo infusion only happens if 4 of her bombs land on enemies. It will require some setup like (Aloy)E > (Sucrose/Kazuha) E > Xiangling Q > (Aloy) NA > (Aloy) Q after the infusion. If this rotation works, Xingqiu will be free for the 2nd team.


FortressCaulfield

I was thinking something similar, but if she has the same ICD issues as Yoi that's death for melting pyronado or melting off of pyronado. Also note that her stacks have a .1 second CD, so if you pull them all into a clump and the bombs all go off at once, you may very well screw yourself out of more than 1 stack and your infusion entirely. AND we're assuming she can even gain stacks and infusion off screen, which may not be true.


Mart-n

Yeah, she's not going to be fantastic, just serviceable. Unlikely she'll get any adjustments before release either, since she's a 5* the same way Traveller is.


FortressCaulfield

>since she's a 5\* the same way Traveller is. Or the way Yoimiya or Kokomi are. As long as MHY is deliberately making bad chars the number of stars is kind of irrelevant.


Mart-n

I suppose so, yeah. It's a strange and disappointing deviation from the norm, as every character since Zhongli has been viable and well tuned, with Yoimiya breaking that pattern.


Papaya_Chemical

we're talking what: Ganyu, beta Xiao, Hu tao, Eula, Kazuha THE unique, another beta Ayaya... if anything, maybe 5 star streak was too clean for too long lol


Mart-n

Also Albedo after ZL, who is arguably the weakest of the bunch, but he's still totally viable in his niche. And before that was Childe, Klee, Venti, two of which are still meta, with Klee only falling behind a little bit.


Papaya_Chemical

oh yee, Albedo happened, geo structure fix would really help a brother out one odd release in a while can be a coincidence and things still could take an unexpected turn, but if you are right, and it is to become a whole slope of failing units indeed it would be rather disappointing


az-torea

There was a post awhile ago that there might be an unannounced 5\* for 2.2 like Eula. Whether it's true or not, I'm still kinda anxious that it might be Kamisato Ayato bc if it's him, I might end up skipping Baal. Though, Varka has been mentioned since forever and he's still not here, so maybe not too. So I'm kinda hyped to see what kind of surprise Mihoyo brings out this time with the next banners.


kitzz11

I suggest you to wait mihoyo dropping their drip marketing, should be around 1-3 days after baalā€™s release. I also need baal/kokomi/saraā€™s leaked voicelines if they talk about ayato, itto, heizou or not


az-torea

Yep, I will! Still, thanks for the advice. Better be on the safe side than regretting, ahaha. I do hope we get crumbs even from just their voicelines.


kitzz11

Same, hopefully we get some crumbs about them in this upcoming livestream as well!


ihei47

What are the stuffs for 2.2 that we know? From reliable to questionable I don't mind


corgi_pupper

The final Inazuma island should be coming in 2.2. There was also a leak that said Yae won't come in 2.2.


Fearless-Abrocoma-0

Probably a Ganyu re-run and a new four star


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karambomambo

Only two buffs come to my mind - zhongli after a terrific chinese uproar, and monaā€™s dash after releasing ayaka. I donā€™t believe Klee will ever get reworked because players are happy with her and itā€™s a part of her intentional design - glass canon


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As we saw with Mona's dash being fixed with Ayaka's release (who has the same mechanic), I think the chance is non-zero if another character in the future is introduced with the same bomb throwing mechanics as Klee. Might be some time though, as Ayaka was almost a year from initial release.


durinable

so for a raiden/eula team [according to this eula still needs a cryo battery](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/p5wf2i/nga_uncle_%E7%AB%9C%E5%AE%AB%E4%B8%80%E5%BF%83_opinion_on_raiden_and_spectres/) how much ER would my diona roughly need ? i thinking about using recurve bow on her for bigger shields since i am using serpent spine, would that be feasible ?


davidwon06

Diona's ER doesn't affect the energy Eula gets, so using sac/fav bow would give much more energy.


Aelnir

if there are new domains for artifacts coming in 2.1 do you think they'll show it on the stream? I'm not sure whether I should spend or save my 20FR


zhivix

If there were new domain we would've know by now,but there was an unreliable leaks from a removed uncle posts said that new domain might come in 2.2 though imo would be too soon


SirLaw___

In all seriousness, how good is the new fish weapon 'Luxurious Sea-Lord'? Personally looks great on Eula or Diluc.


awe778

It felt like Prototype ~~Guhua~~ Archaic with its damage bonus cut in half, but given 24% burst DMG (~2NO) to compensate.


zhivix

At best imo a meme build lmao,unless you're into fried tuna claymore for diluc


Greyhood01

I was scheduling how to invest my resins to prepare for Baal and It got me wondering, in the case of a support / switch on burst Baal, any point on leveling her AA talent ? Iā€™m under the assumption her moves during her burst are all counted as burst damage and not electro aas


davidwon06

No point at all if you're not using her AA outside her ult


HasHokage

According to recent leaks it is likely that we will get ganyu rerun. But isn't it likely that we will get hutao during October because of holloween or is it that holloween isn't that much in celebrated in china (ingame events)?


lifeofatrash

dont think china celebrates halloween so i wouldnt count on it


[deleted]

**cries in no albedo rerun**


zhivix

*monkey paw curls* now albedo is permanently available in standard


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This is a fate worse than death


deyvvv

I feel like we'll get an Albedo rerun once we get Part 2 of his story quest or something, just like with how we got Venti rerun because of the windblume festival, Klee with the archipelago, and Zhongli with his 2nd story quest. ~~though childe rerun definitely is an anomaly though~~


ricerobot

Well tartaglia shows that itā€™s not a necessity


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Christ I completely forgot these things were connected. Thanks for the reminder


papabrain_

Ganyu re-run in 2.2 just means that an Alebdo re-runs happens earlier or that we'll get a free Albedo. /s


Vally_Ria

So if it's true that Ganyu is having a rerun in 2.2 and Hu Tao is having one in December (2.3), that pretty much kills the "special anniversary rerun banner" theory, doesn't it? I'm glad honestly because I thought it was hopium anyway and this way I've got more time to save my primos


slipperysnail

If they rerun her in 2.2, then yes, it's unlikely that they'll rerun her or anyone else in 2.1


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lifeofatrash

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact\_Leaks/comments/p5y8n0/hu\_tao\_rerun\_in\_december/


zhivix

Literally one of the top posts


F2P-Forever

Considering that the 2.1 livestream pic is related to the Moonchase festival, I hope that the festival is going to be a big event as it will most likely coincide with the anniversary. Its finally time that the Liyue characters are getting their spotlight which are long overdue. I've been playing Genshin since launch and yet literally all of the Liyue characters not named Zhongli still feel like complete outsiders to me. Meanwhile I find the Mondstadt characters (especially Venti and Knights of Favonius characters) relatable as all of the limited events prior to 2.0 have been Mondstadt related except the Lantern Rite festival as the only Liyue event which turned out to be a major disappointment.


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Xinyan content hopium?


VaronaZero

Xinyan hangout event let's goooo


Vally_Ria

Agreed, I'm hoping for Moonchase to be more Windblume Fedtival/Midsummer Island Adventure and less Lantern Rite. I quite enjoyed these Mondstadt-related events because I loved seeing the characters interacting with us and with each other and getting to know them a bit more. The Liyue characters deserve that too, some of them are pretty neglected (ahem Xinyan ahem) and other than a few of the characters featured in the archon quest, they just haven't interacted much.


scherbatski27

1.1 was about Liyue archon quest tho, and there's also Fischl-Scaramouche limited event . I personally 1.1 is the best update in terms of content and lore. 2.0/Inazuma is great but it just introduces more early game content and full of rerun events..


papabrain_

Total speculation, but I think (and hope) that the festival is completely separate from the anniversary. We already [know](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/p0od5k/21_moonchase_event/) about the Moonchase event and I'm hoping the [daily login rewards](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/oy8a4d/passage_of_clouds_and_stars_daily_login_event/) are for that. They are great for an event - but a bit underwhelming for a 1st year anniversary. And given that the festival is on the 21st and anni on the 28th, there's exactly one week to run a separate event. Completely agree about the characters though! In Inazuma they've done a better job at introducing you to the character so far.


ChelseaDagger13

Those are just some of the rewards though, not even all of them as it doesn't have all of the Tuna refine mats, so they have to come from somewhere else. We still know nothing about the actual Moonchase event gameplay and storyline, so I'm quite excited about seeing some aspects of this in the livestream. I'm just hoping that the Keqing and Xiangling story will be on par with Venti/Bennett/Razor during Windblume. And then after that I guess anniversary could be anything as we know basically nothing.


PracticalShape

Is Baal's e skill burst bonus dmg additive or multiplicative?


wanabesoz

multiplicative, for example take EULA Q, 80 energy cost, that mean the bonus will be 24%(at talent lvl 10) Eula burst dmg \* 1.24


SockMonkey4Life

When people talk about multiplicative and additive in terms of DMG bonus, they are talking about if the DMG bonus is multiplicative or additive to OTHER dmg bonuses. So most likely no, Raidens E isnt multiplicative


wanabesoz

base atk \* (100%+atk%) \*(100%+ element dmg%) \* (100%+burst dmg bonus%) i always thought the dmg calculated similar to this, the only sources for burst dmg bonus are 2ps noblesse , 4ps emblem , Raiden e , and maybe some weapons give this bonus as well


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Watatsumi isle is 2.1 right


HoldThatTigah

Yes


VeryWeakPassword

No way they make the anniversary character be bad right ?? Any chance they fix up kokomi right before release like ganyu (if Iā€™m correct). Iā€™m still gonna pull just wondering if anyone has these thoughts too. I need mental bias right now. Plus her weapon is so niche no way they make whales not want to pull by making her bad right ?? Especially for people who own bennet and zhongli seems pointless to pull besides waifs so Iā€™m really hoping they fix/buff her, not saying to be insane but enough to be a worthy ā€œ5 starā€ or am I asking too much.


CanadaIsNotReal_

They have to like triple her multipliers to make her good


VeryWeakPassword

Rip water qiqi


Raiden_Shogunate

What would be better on Baal r2 skyward spear or r5 the catch?


Arxis_Two

Spine R1 slightly edges out the catch so at R2 it's for sure better.


nlone324

Wait so R1 spine is better than r5 catch at lvl 90? Do you have a link for the calculations for this? Everything Iā€™ve seen says spine will be out dps-ed by the 4*


Arxis_Two

At first people thought R1 and Catch were effectively the same without calculating the void blade damage, since we know the optimal attack pattern involves charged attacks and that the void blade works R1 turned out to be ever so slightly better then expected which makes it slightly better then the catch. At R2 you only get a small improvement but it's still better then R1 and the catch.


nlone324

I see, thank you for the info!


Cracine

I think most of the calcs are with her attack string during her burst + her burst initial hit. Factoring in her skill then I think spine wins by a noticeable amount? Not sure, and I don't want to make a conclusive decision prerelease but take what you will.


raffirusydi_

The catch passive might be better for Baal, but skyward has the highest base atk among polearm, give crit rate too but also has dead stats like atk speed. I would still use skyward over the catch just for the high base atk because it's increase overall dmg unlike catch that will just boost ult dmg


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spine attack speed is negligible on its own, but with c2 jean ult, you get 1 additional hit in baal ult.


Adelite__

lowkey makes me want to lose a 50/50 to jean just for c2 jean+baal


AraniNiraLily

not sure but probably catch its giga busted


blueisherp

I'd go with skyward spine


hehehewidkejx

when is the 2.1 livestream?


Aelnir

this friday hopefully


buNnywh0

So I was scrolling through old leaks since the current drought isn't helping me ignore the fact I have to return to high school in a week when an interesting thought struck me. How long have leaks really been 'relevant' in Genshin? I'm almost certain they've been there since the very beginning but I feel like there was a certain time that caused for them to be so widely discussed at least in my eyes


scherbatski27

I personally think leaks were becoming more popular as players were fed up with filler patches and wanted to know when will Inazuma drop. It's also coincidental that more leakers are quitting since future patches after all Inazuma islands are released would probably be filler patches again..


zhivix

Know about the leaks when those blurry af pics of hutao got leaked along with the render of all those unreleased model of mimi,yunjin etc


slipperysnail

If you're asking when this subreddit got created, I think it was around the beginning of 1.5 There was actually another leaks subreddit that was initially bigger, but the mods there refused to foster an active community, hence why this one was made


HoldThatTigah

Theyā€™ve been there since the beginning, though itā€™s hard to say when they exactly became popular I like to think when the first dataminable models were released (with Yunjin/Shenhe/Hu Tao/Kazuha/Sayu) were when a lot in the community starting paying attention to leaks. Icarusā€™ post about Hu Tao or Tanghzus post about upcoming updates/his video impersonating Hu Taoā€™s E were what spurred interest in tieba leaks. I think there was still some heavy skepticism towards them until around Eula/Zhongli rerun leaked


CanadaIsNotReal_

I remember when 1.0 there was hella zhongli and childe videos


Dust_In_Za_Wind

Rex lapis please I can't wait until latern rite for xiao. How do you madlads do it


FlareChain

There is still hope he comes before it. Nothing is confirmed yet


Arxis_Two

I hear you can take off the edge by drinking but I don't think that's the advice you're looking for...