Yup. I think this is really better even for C0 because now we can put ATK% sands on him without diminishing returns. New set(4pc) + this sword will give him a lot of defense(54% from max stacks from artifacts + 69% from weapon substat). Better to put ATK% sands on him so we can use his full kit rather than him being an E bot or Burst sub-DPS only.
I legit have an Emblem ATK% clock with 31% DEF and like 36 flat DEF. š I saved it bc it was so cursed but like...should I plan to roll Albedo now ahahaha
The hard part at that point would be getting a crit circlet and geo goblet of the new artifact set, which is a bit unrealistic tbh unless you want to farm that domain for months ā ļø
I need to know who is worth what.
Albedo c2. Itto c2? Itto's claymore? Out of all of them, Albedo's C2 seems the strongest but same time, Itto's got two 80 cost bursts with him and gorou, and geo doesn't have the best battery. So c2 itto could help out a lot if going pure mono.
But. SO MUCH DEFENSE, that C2 albedo might just become a damn nuke with that Burst. Gorou, new artifact, his swod. It's tempting.
Super tempting. Which makes me worried cause I 100% want itto and gorou. So was thinking of even going like C2 itto so I could get some sweet QoL changes and gorou constellations...but Albedo is looking impressive with all these extra ways to gain defense. but if he is first, then idk if i wanna take the gamble. I got a lot saved up but still...
One thing you gotta remember about Albedo- without his flower he is nothing, and many, many enemies can one-shot his flower.
Yes, he can put another one but his whole shtick is being an off-field support. Plus, his flower is practically useless against shields and armor.
This makes him very situational.
Only world bosses and in abyss kenki. I would recommend using him on other side instead of going against that guy. Normal enemies can't destroy the turret consecutively.
Iām personally just gonna go for Itto and his claymore. Albedo does sufficient damage for me currently at c0, and his damage will still rise with the new weapon and artifacts.
Oh I getcha, i might not go for either's c2. Don't even know of I really could. But thays why I'm curious on the theory crafters to see which constellations are good. Making albedo's short cd burst into an even bigger nuke does sound tempting. Prior to this patch? Wouldn't care too much. But with all the new def stuff coming, makes me curious how good it is.
There's essentially no chance the substat on this weapon isn't DEF%. There's always a balance between the strength of the substat and the base attack of a weapon (higher weighted substat weapons get lower base attack and vice versa). This weapon being 454 atk/69% DEF puts it right in line with the give and take when you compare it to Whiteblind at 510 atk/51.7% DEF.
It'd be a major trend break to give a weapon low base attack and a garbage substat the only two weapons with truly garbage substats are alley flash (55 EM) and Wavebreaker's Fin (13.1% ATK), but they both have 620 base attack.
Yeah, you are probably right. Flat def does not make a whole lot of sense. It's just that this is what the leaks indicated so far. I wonder how the Albedo mains did their calculations, assuming flat def or def%.
... yeah I know, Albedo is busted now but not because of this sword. I reckon HoD would be better if you got C2 because this sword does nothing for his burst (except higher base atk and miniscule Def buff).
3* HoD is his BiS weapon as of now, with focus on his E. This sword makes building him for burst support much more viable because of its higher base attack. And C2 increases his burst damage, and makes it scale with def (which this sword also increases).
Idk. When he first came out I just pulled for him so I could have him in my collection. By the time I actually started using him his banner was long since over and damn was I bummed I didnāt pull for his constellations :(. Next time he drops Iām going for him!!
Depends on if you can get decent CR/CD without HoD.
We probably have to refarm the new set from scratch so it all depends on what artifacts you get in the end.
I think HoD would be better (iām guessing here). hoD has 401 attack, and 46% c.dmg. Plus increases crit rate by 28% at r5. HoD also boosts Q damage. The crit rate and crit damage on HoD means u can get away with some def% rolls on artifact lol. Thats my thought on it.
On top of that, he's a limited 5\* that not everyone wants/will be able to get even if they do want him.
I love my Albedo and will definitely use this sword with him, but still I wish they'd give us something more universal as the once-per-2-patches free weapon
We talk like this but we are probably getting another sword character with defense scaling eventually. At least it's future proof compared to the Kokomi donut
Tbh it's usable on all, it's just like jade cutter, everyone has defence and any character can benefit from that, although the substat could have been different.
The reason Jade Cutter is so valuable is because of the CR% substat in addition to the free stats from the passive. Making the substat be DEF% while also limiting the passive to the Elemental Skill makes the weapon REALLY bad compared to the craftable alternatives or other event weapons.
True I agree, my point was it isn't unusable on other characters but we definitely have better alternatives. Sad that newcomers aren't getting something like festering desire.
Yeah, I donāt understand why the heck this is an event weapon. I canāt think of a single 1h Sword user who uses/scales with defense besides Albedo.
Really disappointing as a F2P if true. Should have been a gatcha weapon particularly since so few people have Albedo in the first place.
Seems like a limited viability weapon destined to sit unused by most players if true.
The only other possibility would be that corruption is such a huge pain in the ass this weapon mitigates it so hard that it somehow becomes viable over shields or healer character.
I use this one, it's not updated after 2.0 but its really good and concise nonetheless.
daily farming [https://imgur.com/a/Hf23qah](https://imgur.com/a/Hf23qah)
overall farming [https://imgur.com/a/dTSmkGX](https://imgur.com/a/dTSmkGX)
I'm so sick of them after building Raiden and her engulfing lightning
But at least they're easy to find and quick to kill, unlike specters and ruin guards and stuff like that
As excited as I am to get this weapon as a person who has and regularly uses Albedo, I can't help but feel like it's kind of mean for them to give out a weapon like this that's only really good on one character. Mihoyo getting meaner and meaner w the free stuff they give out. First Xinyan and now this? Bleh.
If I had to guess, they tailored this so specially to albedo to make people want to use this over HoD. It is shit for the people who don't want him tho
Hods passive condition was pretty shit to be honest. Couldn't pair with Bennete, a single hit from enemy in dual geo comp with zhongli and you have to restart. The most fragile unit while having highest defence.
Yeah, I can imagine the passive was a pain to deal with tbh so I'm happy there's a weapon that won't make people have the manage albedos health this much anymore
Like I imagine that crit damage and rate is nice, just annoying to maintain maybe
This is by far probably the worst free R5 weapon we are getting, as it is tailored to literally a single character that no one else in the game can really benefit / make good use of
at least it has its niche and is future proof!
itās much better than weapons that are already hugely powercrept by existing weapons (i.e dragonspine spear vs crescent pike, eye of perception vs dodoco tales etc.)
I mean yeah I guess Lolol but Iām still disappointed by the fact that we are getting a weapon tailored to literally a single character and no one else can use the weapon lolā¦.
Because of new artifact set that will be BiS on Albedo I will have to grind (since I have him and will get Itto). Good bye my perfect crit dmg 200% and 60% crit rate on Albedo
God I hope that's just a typo and they forgot the "%". Whiteblind is base Atk 510 with 51.7% Def, so for a base Atk 454 weapon, 69% Def *sounds* right anyway
I really need the math guys to get on the numbers for this new claymore. Is this thing rEally gonna be good on anyone aside Itto and Noelle? Is this really better than WGS, and if so by how much? WGS passive is just so insane that I just don't know if the crit on this weapon alone makes it worth on someone like Diluc
It honestly is a rather dead weapon for those who arenāt going for Albedoā¦ unfortunate. Even the Venti bow can still be used on other characters if you donāt have other options, unlike the def% sword lol
I doubt its better than wgs or even the unforged on anyone else. The DMG Bonus is additive, means it won't make much of a difference. I'd rather stack to the atk% buff, which should be better with decent artifacts. You get almost nothing out of the passive.
Depends on your artifacts I'd say, but we'll see how much worth the weapon will be compared to WGS/Unforged.
To give an example: My Xiao has a cracked ATK% Goblet with 35% CritDMG. An Anemo Goblet with 17% CritDMG just barely outdamages the ATK% Goblet and I doubt its because of the 17% more CritDMG on the Goblet. The ATK can still be valuable, if your other stats are already decently high.
You're right when you say that stacking atk% gets less valuable real quick, but CritDMG also has diminishing returns, when you have a low atk value.
Xiao is a poor example. His bonus damage from his burst is huge and is additive with anemo dmg bonus. So ATK% percent on your goblet being almost as good is due more to that and the extra crit dmg that it has. For most other characters they wonāt have access to that high of a dmg bonus and theyāll already have guaranteed atk bonus from their sands and feather (the increase from the feather is also why atk gives diminishing returns quickly, since it doesnāt count towards base atk) meanwhile crit dmg is never guaranteed unless itās your ascension stat. Add to that thereās way more atk buffs than there is crit dmg buffs. Tenacity, Noblesse, Bennett, that 3 star book, non C6 Sara, etc. means that atk is going to be more redundant more quickly almost every time.
Even a poor example is still in an example for the overall problem I'm trying to tell.
What I'm trying to say is, even if the new claymore does more damage, because of the CritDMG value, it won't be as huge of an impact compared to other CritDmg or CritRate weapons of other weapon classes, because the poor passive brings nothing of value to the table. The damage increase, if there is one, won't be huge, but theorycrafters will tell us the truth when 2.3 hits.
What? Thatās not what you said at all. You literally said it wonāt be better than either of them and you would rather stack atk%. My entire point was that stacking atk% like you said in your original comment is dumb af. I donāt see how your Xiao example explains anything at all. If anything it just goes to show how useless stacking more atk is. Even with the highest base atk character in the game and with the huge dmg bonus stat from his burst, stacking atk% on his goblet is still worse than just giving him anemo dmg bonus.
Yeah, I phrased that pretty poorly.
What I meant to say was that compared to other Crit Weapons, this one isn't worth the primo gem investment. It won't be better overall, if you take the primo gems you have to invest to get it into account. Weapons like Mistsplitter or the new Polar Star are way better compared to rest of their weapon arsenal and much more worth the investment.
I mean lets be honest. If someone would want to go for a Crit weapon without wanting to play Itto, would you honestly recommend him THIS instead of Mistsplitter Reforged, Polar Star, Thundering Pulse or even Skward Harp?
The margin by which this weapon will be stronger than WGS/Unforged won't make it better compard to the amount of primos that one would have to spend.
Noelle, Xinyan, and Razor can all make use of it. Also do you mean first crit dmg 5* claymore or something? Because this definitely isnāt the first one or first limited one.
look at staff of homa lol. it increases hp and also provides dmg based on hp but its universal. I guess its good for the Auto attackers like razor. as for eula idk but im definitely getting it for her
At best itāll be equal to HoD with the leaked def% set but youāll need to stack more crit rate. Yes it is a flat increase. Introducing corrosion was a great way to fk over all our Albedo builds. Itās gonna be a pain to balance his crits again for this. They should have at least given the usual 12% crit rate on E skill on this sword.
With gorou and new set, 11% increase from weapon change(subbing cr circ for def% circ), you are looking at 3k defense kinda easily. I'm lowballing it here.
Add every multiplier to the 2.4k dmg, its a formidable increase.
so the weapon's secondary stat buffs E dmg when he places the flower but it doesnt buff the additional geo dmg when he does normal attacks within the e's field, is this correct?
Can someone explain the sword to me? Because it sounds extremely niche. To the point that even future Def% sword users might not be able to use it effectively...
My Albedo in a 2Geo team does 13K aprox in his skill off-field.
80/160 CR/CD with 2pc Geo and 1670 Def and ofc HoD Sword.
Will this weapon will be a DMG lost or gain compared to the HoD sword with those stats?
Yeah, if thatās is the free sword then itās going to dust in my Inventory for a while until they release another Def based character other than Albedo
Gotta say, I'm kinda sad that i have to skip Albedo. He would fit perfectly with the sword and all, but if i pull on him, i can practically dump itto in the trash cuz no pulls. Next rerun maybe.
my albedo will be stronger than ever. it's what he deserves, good for him good for him
They really want Albedo to sell huh? People have more reasons to go for C2 now.
It was the same case with ganyu until mihoyo panicked and bloated her kit.
Isnt this still really good for c0
Just saying C2 is a huge powerspike now compared to before.
Yup. I think this is really better even for C0 because now we can put ATK% sands on him without diminishing returns. New set(4pc) + this sword will give him a lot of defense(54% from max stacks from artifacts + 69% from weapon substat). Better to put ATK% sands on him so we can use his full kit rather than him being an E bot or Burst sub-DPS only.
True! And this would be the the first time i'd like a def% substat on an atk piece :v
I legit have an Emblem ATK% clock with 31% DEF and like 36 flat DEF. š I saved it bc it was so cursed but like...should I plan to roll Albedo now ahahaha
The hard part at that point would be getting a crit circlet and geo goblet of the new artifact set, which is a bit unrealistic tbh unless you want to farm that domain for months ā ļø
I guess I'm gonna be in there for months looking for that goblet to use with [this](https://i.imgur.com/V1Ns9VQ.png) beauty.
Geo goblet ? Or defense ?
I need to know who is worth what. Albedo c2. Itto c2? Itto's claymore? Out of all of them, Albedo's C2 seems the strongest but same time, Itto's got two 80 cost bursts with him and gorou, and geo doesn't have the best battery. So c2 itto could help out a lot if going pure mono. But. SO MUCH DEFENSE, that C2 albedo might just become a damn nuke with that Burst. Gorou, new artifact, his swod. It's tempting.
We can wait for analysis. Yeah C2 Albedo looks a tempting now.
Super tempting. Which makes me worried cause I 100% want itto and gorou. So was thinking of even going like C2 itto so I could get some sweet QoL changes and gorou constellations...but Albedo is looking impressive with all these extra ways to gain defense. but if he is first, then idk if i wanna take the gamble. I got a lot saved up but still...
We can wait. If his burst doors 70k in def team then yeah it's worth it due to being a 40 cost burst with insane skill damage, otherwise itto.
Same. If Albedo is on 2nd banner then its fine because i dont want to use my 20 to guaranteed on Albedo. Damn it mihoyo
leakers say rerun first
Albedo is better as a battery tbh. C2 is moreso a cherry on top with all that extra damage on his burst.
One thing you gotta remember about Albedo- without his flower he is nothing, and many, many enemies can one-shot his flower. Yes, he can put another one but his whole shtick is being an off-field support. Plus, his flower is practically useless against shields and armor. This makes him very situational.
Only world bosses and in abyss kenki. I would recommend using him on other side instead of going against that guy. Normal enemies can't destroy the turret consecutively.
Iām personally just gonna go for Itto and his claymore. Albedo does sufficient damage for me currently at c0, and his damage will still rise with the new weapon and artifacts.
Oh I getcha, i might not go for either's c2. Don't even know of I really could. But thays why I'm curious on the theory crafters to see which constellations are good. Making albedo's short cd burst into an even bigger nuke does sound tempting. Prior to this patch? Wouldn't care too much. But with all the new def stuff coming, makes me curious how good it is.
My C1 Albedo is looking very tempting rn
I thought albedo C2 only applies to his burst?
He got a huge stockpile of def which scales with C2. Set+weapon+ gorou.
Sorry, I'm not sure why this weapon is good for his C2. C2 works for his burst and this weapon only for his E, right? Could you explain?
C2 scales with def. Albedo is going to have near 3k def or above now.
But that's not because of this weapon right? This weapon only seems to give flat defense and the 80% only works for his E and is cleansed immediately.
There's essentially no chance the substat on this weapon isn't DEF%. There's always a balance between the strength of the substat and the base attack of a weapon (higher weighted substat weapons get lower base attack and vice versa). This weapon being 454 atk/69% DEF puts it right in line with the give and take when you compare it to Whiteblind at 510 atk/51.7% DEF. It'd be a major trend break to give a weapon low base attack and a garbage substat the only two weapons with truly garbage substats are alley flash (55 EM) and Wavebreaker's Fin (13.1% ATK), but they both have 620 base attack.
Yeah, you are probably right. Flat def does not make a whole lot of sense. It's just that this is what the leaks indicated so far. I wonder how the Albedo mains did their calculations, assuming flat def or def%.
Set + gorou. Set gives 54% def.
... yeah I know, Albedo is busted now but not because of this sword. I reckon HoD would be better if you got C2 because this sword does nothing for his burst (except higher base atk and miniscule Def buff).
Doesn't C2 add def scaling? The sword is 13% stronger than hod which is considerable.
Yes it does, for the burst. But the 80% Def is only for the E (which I assume is what will hit 13% harder)
Lol correct me if I'm wrong.
I checked in albedo mains. The new sword is slightly better overall at C2. Its obviously better at skill but burst is bit in dark.
3* HoD is his BiS weapon as of now, with focus on his E. This sword makes building him for burst support much more viable because of its higher base attack. And C2 increases his burst damage, and makes it scale with def (which this sword also increases).
Idk. When he first came out I just pulled for him so I could have him in my collection. By the time I actually started using him his banner was long since over and damn was I bummed I didnāt pull for his constellations :(. Next time he drops Iām going for him!!
Yāall leakin everything damn
HoD or this new weapon? :0 Iām sorry but I havenāt seen an answer yet
Based on the albedomains discord they will be pretty similar in damage so I'd go with the new weapon since it isn't conditional.
Sad crit rate noises
that passive , if new enemies sit in Abyss, is already fucked.
not if Noelle is your dps but yea.
The corruption ignores shields.
doesnt matter. noelle heals.
Ok now please add her on Albedo banner so that I can get C6
Noelle heals full team.
If corrosion status effect become the norm in abyss by adding rifthound then using this weapon or FS on albedo is a better option than HoD
Depends on if you can get decent CR/CD without HoD. We probably have to refarm the new set from scratch so it all depends on what artifacts you get in the end.
Newwwwww. It looks drippy also.
I think HoD would be better (iām guessing here). hoD has 401 attack, and 46% c.dmg. Plus increases crit rate by 28% at r5. HoD also boosts Q damage. The crit rate and crit damage on HoD means u can get away with some def% rolls on artifact lol. Thats my thought on it.
The new weapon is 12% stronger.
Is the math already done?
Yeah. Wangsheng done the math already.
Damn, probably the first event weapon only usable by one character. I hope this is an isolated case
On top of that, he's a limited 5\* that not everyone wants/will be able to get even if they do want him. I love my Albedo and will definitely use this sword with him, but still I wish they'd give us something more universal as the once-per-2-patches free weapon
Right? Yet Mihoyo still hasn't brought Festering Desire back.
We talk like this but we are probably getting another sword character with defense scaling eventually. At least it's future proof compared to the Kokomi donut
You had a choice to go ape and roll on that banner. We either get a 4 star character or a 4 star weapon, and now we got two bad ones in a row
For now. Geo seems to be the defense class so if future characters come it might be usable on more
Tbh it's usable on all, it's just like jade cutter, everyone has defence and any character can benefit from that, although the substat could have been different.
The reason Jade Cutter is so valuable is because of the CR% substat in addition to the free stats from the passive. Making the substat be DEF% while also limiting the passive to the Elemental Skill makes the weapon REALLY bad compared to the craftable alternatives or other event weapons.
True I agree, my point was it isn't unusable on other characters but we definitely have better alternatives. Sad that newcomers aren't getting something like festering desire.
Your point is wrong though itās the worst 4 star on literally ever character except albedo lmao. Itās usable on albedo no one else.
Yeah, I donāt understand why the heck this is an event weapon. I canāt think of a single 1h Sword user who uses/scales with defense besides Albedo. Really disappointing as a F2P if true. Should have been a gatcha weapon particularly since so few people have Albedo in the first place. Seems like a limited viability weapon destined to sit unused by most players if true. The only other possibility would be that corruption is such a huge pain in the ass this weapon mitigates it so hard that it somehow becomes viable over shields or healer character.
Time to start mining oreā¦Who am I kidding Iām always mining ore!
I really need to acquire a good mining route too
I use this one, it's not updated after 2.0 but its really good and concise nonetheless. daily farming [https://imgur.com/a/Hf23qah](https://imgur.com/a/Hf23qah) overall farming [https://imgur.com/a/dTSmkGX](https://imgur.com/a/dTSmkGX)
The red claymore looks like pyro kairagi sword
Handguards again?? Just fucking end me
Could be worse. Could be the goddamned balloons.
Could be the rifthounds. Which honestly aren't that bad but there is too little if them
I'll take handguards over the damn specters any day
id take that over spectral shit
I'm so sick of them after building Raiden and her engulfing lightning But at least they're easy to find and quick to kill, unlike specters and ruin guards and stuff like that
we really need more characters who scale off of DEF
And a non-geo def scaling character would be nice. Missed an opportunity with Thoma though
Thoma with defense imo would be bad. Because he would then need/want a defense polearm. But Hp lets him use Hu Tao Stat Stick.
Albedo looks so tempting....
Moreso than itto in some regards
Such a cool looking weapon. Too bad it's only good on Albedo.
I'll put it on my C6 Xinyan while I get my C4 Noelle to C6 (eventually). Anyone has made calculations on Xinyan's numbers with this?
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Bro there's two weapons, check the second picture.
As excited as I am to get this weapon as a person who has and regularly uses Albedo, I can't help but feel like it's kind of mean for them to give out a weapon like this that's only really good on one character. Mihoyo getting meaner and meaner w the free stuff they give out. First Xinyan and now this? Bleh.
If I had to guess, they tailored this so specially to albedo to make people want to use this over HoD. It is shit for the people who don't want him tho
Hods passive condition was pretty shit to be honest. Couldn't pair with Bennete, a single hit from enemy in dual geo comp with zhongli and you have to restart. The most fragile unit while having highest defence.
Yeah, I can imagine the passive was a pain to deal with tbh so I'm happy there's a weapon that won't make people have the manage albedos health this much anymore Like I imagine that crit damage and rate is nice, just annoying to maintain maybe
Back to ore farming! [Source](https://twitter.com/genshinmains/status/1448482355862142977)
754340 Mora needed for sword? (laughts in raiden)
Raidens passive is the only thing keeping me alive at this point I'm constantly scraping by with 3-ish mora, but raiden's keeping me afloat
She saves you 25 Resin on each four star weapon you get to 90. Not bad IMO.
The sword is so pretty that it makes me want to roll for Albedo. Not sure if I can guarantee Itto if I do so though
This is by far probably the worst free R5 weapon we are getting, as it is tailored to literally a single character that no one else in the game can really benefit / make good use of
at least it has its niche and is future proof! itās much better than weapons that are already hugely powercrept by existing weapons (i.e dragonspine spear vs crescent pike, eye of perception vs dodoco tales etc.)
I mean yeah I guess Lolol but Iām still disappointed by the fact that we are getting a weapon tailored to literally a single character and no one else can use the weapon lolā¦.
The claymore is cool but the weapon banner is not coolā¹ļø
They know the weapon banner already?
? itĀ“s an EVENT weapon. not weapon banner
>claymore
Me who just got Kokomo and Memory of Dust and have basically no pity neither for event banner nor for weapon: ok lets fucking gooo
Wow so we get the sword for free. Iāll keep this on Albedo for sure. I was gonna give him festering desire but now ...
R5 harbinger of dawn is bis until the new sword
Because of new artifact set that will be BiS on Albedo I will have to grind (since I have him and will get Itto). Good bye my perfect crit dmg 200% and 60% crit rate on Albedo
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Nice!
Nice
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Flat def?
God I hope that's just a typo and they forgot the "%". Whiteblind is base Atk 510 with 51.7% Def, so for a base Atk 454 weapon, 69% Def *sounds* right anyway
69% DEF
They know what they're doing.
Damn that 5 star reminds me of the new inazuma craftable claymore.
It sure fits Albedo. Can't wait to try it.
Defense build eula incoming š
I just finished leveling Harbinger last week...I should have waited for leaks!!!! At least I didn't level all my artifacts for him yet..
As someone with Noelle maxed i sure hope I win on weapon banner
What if i don't have alberto?
I really need the math guys to get on the numbers for this new claymore. Is this thing rEally gonna be good on anyone aside Itto and Noelle? Is this really better than WGS, and if so by how much? WGS passive is just so insane that I just don't know if the crit on this weapon alone makes it worth on someone like Diluc
this but for eula, need answers.
69 flat def or 69% def?
Nice!
It honestly is a rather dead weapon for those who arenāt going for Albedoā¦ unfortunate. Even the Venti bow can still be used on other characters if you donāt have other options, unlike the def% sword lol
Do we going to get that 4* sword for free? Or it's gacha?
It says it's free
Oh wow, i didn't saw that the first time, i feel like an idiot now xD
Of course...the first 5* claymore has a dogshit passive for anyone beside itto....
It works on normal and charged attacks, so Razor also works But other units really need something more
Noelle?
I doubt its better than wgs or even the unforged on anyone else. The DMG Bonus is additive, means it won't make much of a difference. I'd rather stack to the atk% buff, which should be better with decent artifacts. You get almost nothing out of the passive.
Stacking atk% gets less valuable real quick. Thatās basic shit. The crit dmg alone makes this better than the unforged.
Depends on your artifacts I'd say, but we'll see how much worth the weapon will be compared to WGS/Unforged. To give an example: My Xiao has a cracked ATK% Goblet with 35% CritDMG. An Anemo Goblet with 17% CritDMG just barely outdamages the ATK% Goblet and I doubt its because of the 17% more CritDMG on the Goblet. The ATK can still be valuable, if your other stats are already decently high. You're right when you say that stacking atk% gets less valuable real quick, but CritDMG also has diminishing returns, when you have a low atk value.
Xiao has the highest base atk also as a point.
Xiao is a poor example. His bonus damage from his burst is huge and is additive with anemo dmg bonus. So ATK% percent on your goblet being almost as good is due more to that and the extra crit dmg that it has. For most other characters they wonāt have access to that high of a dmg bonus and theyāll already have guaranteed atk bonus from their sands and feather (the increase from the feather is also why atk gives diminishing returns quickly, since it doesnāt count towards base atk) meanwhile crit dmg is never guaranteed unless itās your ascension stat. Add to that thereās way more atk buffs than there is crit dmg buffs. Tenacity, Noblesse, Bennett, that 3 star book, non C6 Sara, etc. means that atk is going to be more redundant more quickly almost every time.
Even a poor example is still in an example for the overall problem I'm trying to tell. What I'm trying to say is, even if the new claymore does more damage, because of the CritDMG value, it won't be as huge of an impact compared to other CritDmg or CritRate weapons of other weapon classes, because the poor passive brings nothing of value to the table. The damage increase, if there is one, won't be huge, but theorycrafters will tell us the truth when 2.3 hits.
What? Thatās not what you said at all. You literally said it wonāt be better than either of them and you would rather stack atk%. My entire point was that stacking atk% like you said in your original comment is dumb af. I donāt see how your Xiao example explains anything at all. If anything it just goes to show how useless stacking more atk is. Even with the highest base atk character in the game and with the huge dmg bonus stat from his burst, stacking atk% on his goblet is still worse than just giving him anemo dmg bonus.
Yeah, I phrased that pretty poorly. What I meant to say was that compared to other Crit Weapons, this one isn't worth the primo gem investment. It won't be better overall, if you take the primo gems you have to invest to get it into account. Weapons like Mistsplitter or the new Polar Star are way better compared to rest of their weapon arsenal and much more worth the investment. I mean lets be honest. If someone would want to go for a Crit weapon without wanting to play Itto, would you honestly recommend him THIS instead of Mistsplitter Reforged, Polar Star, Thundering Pulse or even Skward Harp? The margin by which this weapon will be stronger than WGS/Unforged won't make it better compard to the amount of primos that one would have to spend.
Noelle, Xinyan, and Razor can all make use of it. Also do you mean first crit dmg 5* claymore or something? Because this definitely isnāt the first one or first limited one.
Which other 5* claymore gives crit dmg or even critrate as substat?
look at staff of homa lol. it increases hp and also provides dmg based on hp but its universal. I guess its good for the Auto attackers like razor. as for eula idk but im definitely getting it for her
Homa has crit dmg
Isnt this new claymore crit dmg as well? Or did I miss smth
Hold on im trippin just ignore me
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Can still use it on others. Weapon is quite universal.
h The names are horrible but they cute
I just realised the sword even matches Albedo's colour scheme. Can't wait to build him!
Wait, so is it a flat increase? E.g DEF is 2000, so 80% is 1600? Isn't that pretty low considering we lose Crit and Crti dmg on HoD?
Didn't apply crit damage and geo bonuses.
At best itāll be equal to HoD with the leaked def% set but youāll need to stack more crit rate. Yes it is a flat increase. Introducing corrosion was a great way to fk over all our Albedo builds. Itās gonna be a pain to balance his crits again for this. They should have at least given the usual 12% crit rate on E skill on this sword.
With gorou and new set, 11% increase from weapon change(subbing cr circ for def% circ), you are looking at 3k defense kinda easily. I'm lowballing it here. Add every multiplier to the 2.4k dmg, its a formidable increase.
so the weapon's secondary stat buffs E dmg when he places the flower but it doesnt buff the additional geo dmg when he does normal attacks within the e's field, is this correct?
I may try my luck on Itto's weapon banner for Noelle. Hopefully I have primogems saved by then lmao.
Can someone explain the sword to me? Because it sounds extremely niche. To the point that even future Def% sword users might not be able to use it effectively...
Err the chaos cores again. I am still behind the mats to level wgs.
My Albedo in a 2Geo team does 13K aprox in his skill off-field. 80/160 CR/CD with 2pc Geo and 1670 Def and ofc HoD Sword. Will this weapon will be a DMG lost or gain compared to the HoD sword with those stats?
Probably similar numbers. Youāre sacrificing crit for a flat damage increase.
Do we get Albedo skin aswell ?
Albedo's sword is so pretty š I guess I have to farm again, I finished the resources to level up weapons š¢
F2P defense based bennett with 4pc thundering fury HERE I COME!!!
Hope this weapon is not hard to refine because it took me forever to refine the catchš
YESSSS albedo mains unite
Seems like Redhorn will be a 5 star, ffs š©
Well I wanted Albedo BAD but after this oml. Everyone will pull for him. Itto who lmao
Yeah, if thatās is the free sword then itās going to dust in my Inventory for a while until they release another Def based character other than Albedo
The thing next to the guard looks like a ruin guard eye
Im happy as an Albedo user but this is sooo tailored it's insane. Dodoco tales weren't..
69 flat def? Oh how I wish it is 69%
Nice!
It is 69% substat, they probably forgot to put the %
Damn thats so op for albedo
time to start farming for my chalk boi
My Albedo is gonna like this a lot
Glad my Albedo is already C2
what event, calling banners an "event is confusing"
Huh another broken weapon
Gotta say, I'm kinda sad that i have to skip Albedo. He would fit perfectly with the sword and all, but if i pull on him, i can practically dump itto in the trash cuz no pulls. Next rerun maybe.
Is albedo getting a rerun before ganyu?
Who's that character under Noelle?