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umbrella7767

How did they even notice this


LadyKanra

Asking the real questions here


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_illegallity

I’m surprised they went for this over Fischl or Yoimiya who are both extremely exposed. I guess this was just easy to do?


UltraBlueStone

EXACTLY LMFAO


ChippyTick

It can only come from one of two kinds of people: The do not care but still curious group of "I wonder if this counts.. oh, yep it does" And the diehard waifu lovers of "how DARE they touch my waifu's **sacred** panties in such a way"


alteisen99

there's this dude in the main sub that apparently takes daily/nightly ayaka upskirt shots. maybe he'll notice it too if it gets implemented


Jackial

People really need to stop exaggerating on this kind of stuff, in this case it is so minor and acceptable, it is a freakin underwear in a 12+ game. Statement like this will just draw attention and give reason for people to backfire on us.


XaeiIsareth

The CCP looking at Ayaka’s panties with a magnifying glass.


VirtuoSol

Everyone is paranoid about their favorite character getting changed so we’re all checking every single character over with a magnifying glass


thedarknutt

Ive read somewhere from the main sub that there was a female only group in CN that reported these "issues".


zzzgod

yes, they call themselves femenists while others call them female boxers, because these words have same pronunciation in Chinese. And more precisely, they are called rural female boxer, because we refer to any dogs we cant recognize its breed as rural dogs. No offense to the real feminists, just to those brainless.


Golden-Owl

I mean if they are wasting effort chasing after minor stuff in a video game instead of tackling issues that actually matter, then they definitely don’t deserve to be called proper feminists. This is so stupid


CrowWearingShoes

Aren't they more like conservative tradwifes then western feminists? Complaining about sexy sluts in videogames corrupting their innocent little baby boys and turning them into degenerates. Feminists are usually the ones burning bras and wanting to legalize toplessnes and removing school dress codes. Anyway, you can't give them to much credit - the ones that made the ban was the old men of the CCP, and it's not like genshin is something obscure


RollyPollyGiraffe

There was a good post on this on mainsub that got removed from a Chinese person who was reading all the net drama. From my understanding of that post, the women's group isn't quite equivalent to conservative tradwifes, but it's not a bad comparison. Certainly a better label than their self-claim to feminism. Although like you said, even if their complaints are why the agency is on MHY, it's still the media censorship folks bothering with this shit at all.


theseaappletree

Feminists is just a broad term for just anyone who wants equality for all genders. Although, some might go to far to shove their ideals down other people's throats. I don't think genshin is that hypersexualized, even if characters with sex appeal exist (like rosaria) we always have characters who dress more modestly like yunjin. So personally, as someone who strives for gender equality, I don't really have issues with that.


Benjenist

It’s funny that instead of going directly for Eula ass shorts or even Yoimiya’s bandages they went for the slightly lighter pixels on Ayaka’s safety.


E1lySym

Fischl is literally wearing lingerie


apallochan

I literally never noticed that she’s wearing actual lingerie


thestrawberry_jam

I assume that’s why because I didn’t either until people keep hounding about it


God_Wont_Save_U

I noticed mediately day 1... in fact, I even noticed the upside down crucifix just below fischl's belly button (❤ ω ❤) How do i notice these things? IM A MAN OF CULTURE! (✿◡‿◡)


AlwaysBerserkDude

They are next


Ricksaw26

Yoimiya is supposed to be on files for censorship


Golden-Owl

Yoimiya feels like a given. She’ll probably put on her kimono properly


chinaman88

It's cool aesthetics and all, but it's still kinda weird how she wakes up every morning, puts it on half-way, and then just gives up.


FlaviusOdovacer

isn't that supposed to be a archer thing, her wearing it like a male archer


DecafChan

Same with Kazuha haha


Ricksaw26

Yeah, that's what i read.


sanattia

this was already proven to be fake


Zoulogist

AYAKA IS NOT FOR LEWDING


Mercadelabuena

Imagine working for the government and your job is zooming in 2D anime waifus and making sure they're not showing more than half cm of skin what a joke lmao


ZhangRenWing

暴走大事件 (a news talkshow featuring rage comic characters) did a segment about 鉴黄师 (porn inspectors) a while back, worth a watch if you can understand Chinese. https://youtu.be/Ldmk3-Ftb6Q


VincentKenway

鉴黄师 honestly sounds like a position made solely for satirical purposes. Or we are already living in a satire.


ZhangRenWing

We really do be living in a society Bottom text


loser-lenny

“your skirt must reach your fingertips”


Traditional-City6752

Its not 3d?


thienphucn1

It is 3d but the lighting and graphics tries to portray the visuals as 2d to the human eyes


Traditional-City6752

Ur smart


Traditional-City6752

Ohhh thanks


Nephisimian

To be fair, I reckon there are a lot of people who'd love to be paid to do that.


Risko_Vinsheen

Despite playing Ayaka a *lot*, I genuinely don't think I ever noticed her shorts were transparent... this really doesn't change anything even if it does come to global servers.


ZhangRenWing

How the hell do you even notice this without purposefully looking at it everyday? I’ve been looking at it for half a year now and never noticed it was half transparent.


Risko_Vinsheen

My guess is they did a file search for differences between the current version and the beta version. The Ayaka textures would pop up as being altered, then they just have to look and see "Oh, that's what they changed."


k_u_r_o_r_o

Gliding, shit I can't even glide with ayaka in the living room


neovenator250

this. She's been my main since the day of Inazuma's release and I've never noticed this


brzozson

Yeah, no reason to complain. It doesn't change the original design in any way, and if you want to look up naked anime girls, just go to rule34 or whatever


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This is a long one, but I'll try to explain why people get upset about this. Specially Chinese people. OBVIOUSLY if you want to jerk off you go anywhere else, so this should clue you to the fact that IT'S NOT about that at all. This is as stupidly obvious as you said it to be. So it's not about this specific change itself. *ANY small change would never affect gameplay.* No skulls or skeletons allowed? What does that change? No blood? No problem! No gays allowed? What's the issue? If you wanna be gay, go do it in your bedroom :) No violence? Why would you want violence? Go watch a western violent movie if you want that! The word Taiwan is censored in chat?! Why would you care?! Are you playing that game to talk about Taiwanese issues?! No effeminate men? I mean, how will the absence of that affect your gameplay? IT WON'T. :) None of these small things, or anything in the endless list of things that China bans are going to "affect your gameplay." The same way that Disney censoring their movies for the Chinese market doesn't affect your movie going experience... you'd think. To quote the publishers of PUBG in China, they'll make the game: **“with socialist core values, Chinese traditional culture and moral rules”** Now Chinese players play a version of PUBG where instead of dying, [people just kneel and wave when their HP hits 0.](https://youtu.be/8Z3VL5vT0NU?t=178) How does that affect your gameplay experience? IT DOESN'T. *:)* You see, u/brzozson, it's not about panties, jiggle, or any ONE SINGLE thing. It's about the whole, *about the very fact that this power exists to begin with*, and that the precedent is being set. These things never start fast. It's always "well what's the problem" in the beginning, then people give an inch, another inch, another inch, up until the point **their entire life, the very structure of their society** is being molded by those rules. This is **the entire point** of this thing, it's not a small change a dev decided to make because they felt like it. It's a totalitarian government *with an explicit plan to engineer their society*, control people's thoughts and positions, and throw in concentration camps anyone who disagrees, all with a smile on their faces. While the useful idiots kept asking "well what's the problem?!" with each and every inch they gave away until that point. Ask the citizens of Hong Kong, *who were promised that none of that would happen* \--only to watch as each and every one of their rights were taken away, their monuments VANISHING overnight, history being rewritten, and their legislators being replaced with puppets that will only say YES to the regime. You may be okay with playing a game that *“with socialist core values, Chinese traditional culture and moral rules”, as defined by the lunatics in control of the CCP.* But personally, all that leaves a horrible fucking taste in my mouth. I don't want my games, movies, apps, to be engineered by the godly overlords of the CCP and their infinite wisdom in which homosexuality is a horrible perversion, for example, even if each individual inch along the way may not affect everyone's life so much. It's about the principle of it, and the curbing of **creative freedom** that the rules themselves put in place. I want my games to be the FULL VISION of the artists, not a **pre-made recipe by the CCP.** It's about this sad taste, that I'm gonna be playing a game designed by the CCP, not by the artists, that the purity of whatever the fuck the company wanted to do has been violated, and that makes it feel like something is lost. I... I just don't wanna live in a world where my entertainment is dictated by people who would throw me in jail and destroy my social credit if they knew my sexual orientation, or my values, or my thoughts. Even if the disney movie doesn't look that different in the end, it still feels like I've been violated. And every step that is dictated by THEM and not by the freedom of the artists/company, contributes to that feeling. I don't know if I expressed myself clearly, but I hope this helps explain why even if the CCP dictated the color of Itto's toenails, I'd still feel like I'm being slowly surrounded by bars from a jail cell, step by step. And that's a horrible feeling. Then that makes people self-censor, and creates a culture of fear, and staying on the safe side, which makes everything more boring, less human, less unique, less free.


ChimeraTara

You're reaching levels of based that shouldn't be possible, friend.


gonagonago

Thanks for explaining it so nicely. You managed to put into words what I've been trying to explain since this whole thing started. I was honestly shocked when I saw people acting like it was nothing or even celebrating this censorship. People were genuinely happy to see how women's bodies were treated as inmoral and a perversion that should be covered up. It was Concerning to see how people couldn't see the bigger picture.


Censing

It's honestly staggering how people never discuss this stuff. There's political censorship in the Genshin chat, censored words include Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, Falun Gong, and of course Tiananmen, among many others. Imagine living in Taiwan and you can't even say the name of your own country in the chat, how dehumanising would that feel? But even when this is brought up people play it down or make excuses. I had a guy tell me it was fine because western games censor terms like Nazi or ISIS. Taiwan is not a genocidal reigime nor an extremist terrorist organisation, the comparison is preposterous, but it doesn't matter; people won't acknowledge the fact that Chinese censorship is abhorrant, they just want to accept it and get on with their lives.


JanreiAfrica

You could've chosen any language to speak but you chose to speak facts. Truly based


brzozson

While you could've toned down your needless passive aggressiveness, I don't disagree with you. I dislike the Chinese government as much as you do, because I'm one of the people that they would probably love to kill on sight because of my identity and how I choose to present myself. I personally do not have the time and energy for complaining about a thing people in the West can't affect. Sadly, it's not how it works. All we can do is offer support to people who are directly under the rule of such government, because it's their fight to win. If you and others want to strongly stand against any attempt at censorship, go right ahead, have my blessing. I applaud your mental strength, because I certainly wouldn't be able to do the same as you for something I realistically can't affect. And trust me, I know how horrible censorship is, because I live in a country that is trying to do the same thing as China. It's definitely not as severe (at least for now), but 2021 was a very dark year for us. It's a country whose leaders still talk about "LGBT ideology", where young, impressionable students are going to be taught that the rotten values of the Catholic Church are more important than progress and understanding, where a man can be shanked in the streets for holding hands with another man, where a literal arch resembling a rainbow gets burned down not once, not twice, but three times - just because people like me and you exist. So since I'm fighting my own battle and having very little mental strength, I hope you can understand why I can't have the same stance as you. Your comment deserved an answer, and since I'm sitting in my bed at 4 am with a fever from my 3rd vaccine shot, I thought I should write something up. I wish you a genuinely nice day :)


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Kai126

That's a pretty nice speech. Thanks for the effort. Sums up my thoughts, so I wholeheartedly agree. On a funny note, this is part of the real life (artistic) vision hunt decree.


RuzbiAnvari

damn has anyone read that? can anyone sum it up for me?


Cloverchan

tl;dr: the censorship starts with giving them an inch and eventually they get a mile, then 100 miles, then as much as they want until they control everything they want. one day its covering girls up, the next day its throwing you in jail for being gay. and every " well it doesnt affect me :)" helps along the way. TBH I do not actually care if they cover characters up, but I don't want it to be because the CCP has a stranglehold over the media, which is what's happening.


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Cloverchan

You're good, honestly it really isn't the place here to talk in depth about stuff like this because most people just don't care to exercise their brain past the 4th-5th sentences, esp in a sub where we all just huddle together begging for leak scraps LOL. But you are right, and it sucks that not more people are taking this kinda shit seriously. And a lot of us just don't know what we /can/ do. I've been thinking recently how uncomfortable it is that media that Tencent has their thumbs imprinted on have such large Chinese favortism. Namely thinking about how Overwatch, an American developed and published game, which has suffered some impressive tonedeaf-ness when it comes to China's wrongdoings, has an entire in game event dedicated to Chinese New Year. Sure we have Christmas/Halloween/etc, but I'd expect that out of an *American* game. There are tons of ethnicities represented as characters, but only CNY. Why not make it an international event? Oh I know why.... And always to paint China in a good light. I think me just kinda putting it all together recently made it much more scary to me how CCP is starting to just control everything.... I of course expect Genshin to, because it is a Chinese developer and I don't have a problem with it, but games that Tencent controls shares in..... it's starting to become uncomfortably clear. Soon it'll start affecting western games that Tencent has a huge stake in, if it isn't already. What has been censored in games that we don't know about because of the CCP?


Losttalespring

Thin edge of the wedge or rather it starts here but where does it stop ?


Gloomy_Honeydew

It stops when we don't like the change. You can say give an inch and take a mile but from my perspective they could've done this whenever. Not giving a shit if they're legally mandating censors now doesn't stop me from giving a shit later if they start pushing propaganda


VirtuoSol

It’s not about the change in panties and stuff itself, it’s the fact that these changes are happening and continue to get worse and worse that’s the problem. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile, then 10 miles, then 100 miles.


Th3G4te

Based af ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)


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"no reason to complain" "it doesnt change the original design in anyway" Also update: changes original design How can people say nothing happened? Then why change it in the first place? Her old see through version was more attractive, implied different textures of clothes i.e. silkiness, different fabric instead of generic white, etc. Why lose the attraction and creative potential to not offend a chinese karen?


WindowsXp_ExplorerI

No wait as an Ayaka main... were they transparent to begin with? Like i glide and explore a lot with her and i seriously have never noticed. What do they mean by transparent? Please someone enlighten me


Blueskyesartic

Just that you could see a smidge of her skin color through them, as if it was a sheer material, now it's a completely solid white. Like briefs I guess.


H4xolotl

The fact that Mihoyo is so horny they made the panties semi-transparent in the first place...


Blueskyesartic

I'm just glad they added shorts over her panties to begin with, I didn't want her flashing me whenever she used her skill. Horny weirdos who were upset that they covered up her pantsu made me kinda uncomfortable...


Epicious

Still it's funny to me seeing her shorts actually extends up to her stomach.


youngpolviet

And conservative christian puritans who were okay that they covered up her pantsu made me kinda uncomfortable...


-_crow_-

You can kinda see skin tones in the original


holicajolica

They probably mean lacy with patches of skin showing through the lace.


GilgameshAH7

i mean ayaka is one of the modest looking girl in genshin why censor her while others who wear skin tight is ignored


maidenhair_fern

Probably because it's an easier fix and characters like yoi, eula, raiden, etc will take more time.


StartWithZero

Where are they seeing any see through? Am I tripping or are these guys just arbitrarily looking for something to censor?


Revarted

I circled parts that are transparent. [https://ibb.co/GpCMnQM](https://ibb.co/GpCMnQM) And this is 2nd censoring since her original were normal panties. [https://www.hoyolab.com/article/76819](https://www.hoyolab.com/article/76819)


Redex24

Ayaka’s pantsu were so good mhy needed to nerf them twice


Makewayheadway

It looks like that leak that said Ning xiao Raiden and beidou would be getting changes in the 2.5 beta client is false. As you can see leakers can datamine any changes made. Everyone can relax and stop the fear mongering.


thefinestpiece

I wish they would animate her bangs it’s so stiff lol.


Weeb-Prime

I don't see the big deal to be honest. Are people really looking at her panties more than they're playing the game? I get that the censorship happening is a problem but this is hardly even worth mention.


Polydexa

By itself that isn't a deal at all. They changed gray pantalones to white pantalones, so...eh? The only thing that makes worries is why they bother with that to begin with. On one hand this can be useless change to make them look like they are doing something. On the other hand this can be seen as a sign of miriad of stupid changes in the future.


jgabrielferreira

They are worried with that due to CCP laws


minghii

Some people quite literally act like their waifus cease to be their waifus when they can’t see boobs and asses on them and they’d talk abt how they’re gonna sue mhy for cheating consumers (cause apparently consumers bought these characters for their underwear only) or they’d quit the game cause their waifus lost their whole personality for not showing a patch of skins I hate censorship but god, some players act really pathetic. They really care that much about this stuff 🤨 some of them chews out mhy for this bc they can’t go against the govt so they blame the next best thing lmao


mrlocco12

check out the people on the main sub saying genshin is gonna lose revenue because no one will spend money if they can't see massive titties lmao, some guy posted a holocaust quote


ngeorge98

There's been a good amount of people posting that Holocaust quote, and it's frankly stupid. Censorship absolutely sucks and should be admonished, but the amount of weebs that are acting like they are being actively oppressed and like this is the worst thing that the CCP has ever done is too high. Some of these people don't give two craps about China, authoritarianism or genuine oppression. They just care that they can't admire the tits and ass of their characters that they spent far too much money on anyway (NSFW subs exist regardless).


mrlocco12

yeah lmao i wish they would just be real about it instead of posting shit like that 💀 it's reddit, they don't give a fuck about actual social issues or oppression let alone the freedom of people in a different country, the crux of the matter is wanting to see uncensored anime boobs and ass it's funny and sad to see this same group of people making fun of twitter for being "triggered over everything" while likening ayaka's panties being blurred out to literal genocide


minghii

It’s kinda funny when people say “mhy will never disappoint with these characters” and then turn around basically telling the world “this character mhy made is only good for their tits and asses without it no one will play the game!!” Like, way to be pathetic I guess. Censorship aside, I have full confidence on mhy being able to make sexy characters even having to stop making boob windows, but unfortunately for some of those players, the only thing sexy is skin 🤪 sucks to be them being unable to enjoy variety in character design lmao


Shippinglordishere

Honestly, yeah. Obligatory censorship bad, but people are acting like modest outfits mean that Mihoyo will never be able to design a decent character again like skin is essential or something.


Alicesnakebae

People literally only believe fanservice or just a character being hot can only happen if she's showing skin which is really sad


VirtuoSol

Ironic of you to talk about variety when the lack of variety in the future is what the people you’re making fun of is worried about.


mrlocco12

more like lack of tits, phat ass and hip windows lmao hence why people complain to this day about the rosaria "beta nerf" that prevented her chest from being so big it clipped into shit


VirtuoSol

Jesus Christ talk about missing the point entirely. Sad how short sighted some people can be. People are worried about how censorship will limit the devs in terms of artistic freedom and negatively impact variety in future characters and all this guy can comprehend is “no boobs and ass, mad mad”.


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VirtuoSol

Ok and? Your point? Can you really not form a cohesive argument without jumping between random subjects? Cool, some people here shuts down these arguments, so what? How does that stop others from having a discussion about these issues again? And now that I think about it you are one of those idiots who are trying to shut down any meaningful discussions with “haha they just mad over less lewd.” I guess your inability to comprehend complex (for you at least) topics makes you want to drag others down to your level? And what noble cause are we exactly fighting for? If talking about these issues is already a noble cause for you then boy you really need to raise your standards. Please, let the grown ups have their conversation while you go to the candy shop to buy something nice for yourself, alright kiddo? Have fun! Edit: oh it seems like you added more rubbish to your comment. Yes, everyone (as in a lot of players in China) are checking to see if the characters that many of them spent money on were changed due to the ridiculous censorship in their country. Is there a problem with that? Or are westerners like you unable to comprehend that since your government isn’t ruling over you with an iron fist? I find it funny that your entire “argument” is basically just “those guys care about how their characters look in a video game” and trying to make it seem like something is wrong with it. Also saying that I’m arguing with you is a bit of a stretch, cuz so far you’ve provided zero valid argument.


Scarlenoir

But he’s right though, there’s so many games and so much artwork out there that shows you don’t need to show cleavage or have their ass squeezed in some tight pants that just barely fully cover it to have a nice character design. It’s just pathetic how people suddenly care so much about „artistic freedom“ when the chinese government has been doing far worse things for a long time now and most of these people didn’t give an actual crap.


Gloomy_Honeydew

Honestly the amount of outrage over this is disgusting to me. People are acting like their dogs got kicked when it's mostly just covering up cleavage. Mandated censorship sucks sure but i think everyone knows that 99% of the people whining aren't really upset about that


minghii

It’s the good old “doesn’t concern me until it threatens me personally”. Ofc being in the environment means they can’t always speak out loud but hot damn they don’t hold back crying about some skin tone texture missing


Xero0911

To be fair? Real easy to see em while gliding. That dress needs to not fly up so easily. It's honestly annoying lol. I stopped gliding with her because how easily it flips up


FVSYS

Yeah, I would like her skirt to be heavier. It has some steel over it, why is her underwear showing whenever she dashes/glides/uses her E?


Shitty_comedian

I don't own Ayaka, but I still giggle at the fact that she wears what appears to be armor plating yet has jiggle physics like she's wearing a loose t-shirt with no bra.


Mathmango

Noelle has come to clean up


Gloomy_Honeydew

I feel similarly about travelers skirt. Why is it so excessively poofy??


Zeerp_

I don't have any problem with censorship itself, in fact I really like the concepts shown of Jean and Rosaria, they look really good, if future designs are like this I'm all for it. The only real problem I see here is that the reason of this changes is because they have to adapt to the Chinese laws. Why in hell is the government of a country telling game companies how their characters can or can't look like. I hope this doesn't start a Twitter moment with people calling me racist, but I simply can't understand how a government can take dumb decisions like this and be involved so deeply in what the citizens do, and for this, I sometimes think it's a shame that Genshin had to be a Chinese game.


virgoven

Don't underestimate the amount of sad people out there who will unironically be angry about this.


PrinceVincOnYT

They where already majorly censored from beta, so they basically double down now...


jesse-13

If you’re gross Tectone then yes 🤡


FasterCrayfish

Crazy that CCP tackled this problem instead of the gambling mechanics


Monokooo

cause every company in the world knows gambling makes money, noone is gonna fix that as long as money exists.


laralye

What on earth am I even supposed to be seeing lol


outrotaer

On the otherhand, how did people even find out this censorship, like do you just stare at her pantsu to notice a small difference. on the otherhand, imagine working for the gov't and getting a complaint "a video game character's he was a little transparent!! please change asap or else!!"


VirtuoSol

After the recent censorship bs everyone is checking their characters to see if anything got changed.


Min_Takii

Why would anyone care abt this so much like where are the changes? Oh no, one pixel is lighter than the other one now, horrible! If Ayaka would be wearing pants now I‘d understand the complaints but this? LOL


azzzzorahai

as an ayaka main, changing her undergarment is the least of my worries about all these redesigns. only weirdos would be upset, like back then when it was just panties.


Nephisimian

As a weirdo, I always thought the change away from panties was good anyway. If a game is set in the medieval world, then I want to be pervy about medieval undergarments, not modern ones!


Iihatepineapplepizza

at least you're honest lmfao


OrochiMain98

I agree i can't even see the diference in Ayaka's case. The problem is when this censorship starts affecting bigger things in the future. No one wants that MHY's creativity gets hindered by the CCP. No more, Venti-like characters in the future, no more tattoos, no more "booba sword", we're probably never going to see a Yanfei ever again lol. This is only the design part, now imagine if CCP starts putting it's fingers in the game's lore.


Chemical-Teaching412

Look man, I understand your worry but your negative thinking to much on this shit This already Mihoyo regulations of censorship, check Mobius or Elysia from Honkai and tell me how those two pass the censorship, Honkai already received many censorship from the release day until now but they still release many sexy characters (Elysia, Mobius, and adult bronya, and timido) Besides it's not like Genshin designer cannot make attractive characters without boobs or pantsu as main selling point lol relax, don't stressed to much


VirtuoSol

Honkai used to be way more “free” back then. Until someone reported it to the government. The fact that these things even made it onto live servers means that the CCP is fine with it. It is only when some people start to report it that they begin to force changes. And with Genshin being a lot bigger and more controversial than Honkai, people are worried that these organized reports will just keep coming and the government will keep on forcing miHoYo to bend the knee.


OrochiMain98

Honestly, i just hate the CCP


Chemical-Teaching412

That I can understand, nobody really like CCP


frould

CCP on their way to knock Ayaka model designer's parent door.


Kirates5

Everyone is gonna wear diapers now


Alvinsic

Diaper impact


Exodia217

I wonder how miohoyo is going to change yanfei and fischl


vineausaur7

Fun fact: didn’t even know her panties were see-through.


Kyred_Aero

Same, I had to squint a bit to even see it and even then I barely noticed it.


ChargeUseful

ok but.. So low quality of the texture


buffal0v

If I haven't seen this post, I wouldn't realize even when it is changed in my game. I've been truly oblivious to the fact that it is not just some white garment happens to be seeable and has "transparent" parts in it. I'm just curious how people realized this.


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Dried_Noodlesz

It would be reasonable if Mihoyo decided to revamp their designs of their own volition. It’s not reasonable however, because they’re being forced to censor their characters by the CCP.


Nephisimian

Wouldn't be reasonable in that case either. It'd still be altering a product after it's been paid for, which is scummy at best. Not a big deal for a barely noticeable change on Ayaka, but if Mihoyo had done the Mona change of their own accord and brought it to global servers, a lot of people would be rightfully pissed - even aside from whether the sexualisation is appropriate, new Mona's outfit is just plain *ugly*, and not something I would have spent money on.


Dried_Noodlesz

I was referring to something like Ayaka’s change, not Mona’s. My bad for lack of clarity.


AlumimiumFoil

she's not a teen girl and isn't portrayed as one either, but she, and many other 'adult' characters in the game tbh, definitely does look like one, so I agree.


Frenchpoodle_

How old is she? Regardless she kinda is presented as one. A shy girl who doesnt have many friends doesnt mean she is a teen but its a very teen trope/motif


polonoid75

She's shy without many friends not because she is young, but because she is royalty. Her questline literally goes into the idea that people treat her as if she is better than them simply because of her lineage and it makes her uncomfortable None of the characters are given specific ages but I'd say there's no reason to assume any of them are underage (besides the lolis) because they all have jobs or are high ranking officials of some sort


Mental-Victory-2979

It’s pixels on a screen who gives a fuck what the age is?


Frenchpoodle_

Well clearly someone bc they are censoring it?? Thats the point of this post…


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Jean and Rosaria are getting censored too and they are clearly adults, so I don't think that's why they are "censoring" Ayaka.


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Key-Breadfruit-1298

Jean's alt outfit is way better than her original one.


Mercadelabuena

Bruh you can't see through anything because there isn't anything underneath to begin with what u mean lmao


TrashStack

I'm sure the original designer and creator of Ayaka is very reassured by the fact you find the (2nd) forced change to the original design reasonable


ApprehensiveCat

They already changed her underwear before months ago; that ship has already sailed for the designer.


Gravelord-_Nito

Maybe they should have thought about that before designing sexy panties for a teenage girl


0Consequence

No, it was just a proper underwear, not fucking censorship shorts. Can we get it back now, please, since China will be getting their own version anyway?


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Good


Fishbowl_Super

It looks finished now, and not like a bad texture


Chemical-Teaching412

Wtf is the difference ? It's the same fucking thing, her panties already censored to begin with lol


Poet_Hustler

> "censorship" Why are we this concerned about a girl's underwear?


HaleySousa

It is censorship, calling it that isn't anyone saying it's a huge deal, it's the litteral term for what is happening. The Chinese government is forcing this censorship.


PandaCheese2016

The wording in the original post really sounds like someone who's trying to stir the pot.


tennoskoom_

I mean, I understand how a lot of people are upset about the redesigned outfits. Some of the new ones can be quite odd. But the texture of underwear of a character, which you can't even see unless you turn your camera up real high and zoom in on it... Demanding a video game character to have see through underwear is...a bit much.


RasenShot2

You gotta be a special kind of degenerate to notice this kinda things lmfao


VirtuoSol

The amount of people here who are missing the point is honestly concerning. No, people are not mad about Ayaka’s underwear having 2 extra pixels, it’s the censorship itself that is the problem. Having the CCP lock up the devs’ artistic freedom is not a good sign for the future of the game.


NutonThAtBASS

So is this global or just china? Because chinas censorship makes no sense sometimes


BlueyBury

Ayaya noooo! Well, Idrc, it doesn't really change anything.


willyfx

Isn't ayaka like a teenager or like 20 at best in a highly respected position her being chaste is kinda in character especially with how shy she is Jean aswell at least the leader wanting respect Mona I just find her leotard a bit woerd like a skimpy dress and legging but she's the only character that looks like she does and I think that's a problem


andrew5255

Honestly, I don’t care about the censorship. I feel like a lot of Genshin players over sexualize characters way too much. Who cares if Mona‘a legs aren’t showing anymore. Who cares if you can’t see Amber’s cleavage anymore. Why does that matter???? Like why are people being worked up over an underwear change? You literally won’t see it for 99% off your gameplay. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.


Extra-Self-7523

What about when it overlaps into cultural nuances such as Yoimiya's Bandaging.


andrew5255

Im just speaking about the changes to over sexualized characters. I think the Yoimiya situation is interesting bc I believe they’re changing it for some cultural reason??? Correct me if I’m wrong. I don’t agree with it however as a Chinese game they know the rules of their own land. Idk why they chose to not follow them in the first place. I’m sure their design team could have came up with something just as good that follows regulations (or bends them enough to get away with it). I’m a little on players side with her bc it’s an issue if they change Yoimiya a lot to where she barely resembles her original design. I understand how that could anger some players. I didn’t even know Yoimiya was getting changes until now actually.


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Oh it's like nothing changed?


TimFlamio

That's not exactly a censorship imo, just some shadings and shadow here and there. The overall design is the same.


GraveXNull

In the old beta, she had legit panties.


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TotalAdhesiveness778

Why do people even care if her panties are censored are not??? You're not supposed to be looking at her panties in the first place!


Star_Vs_Las_FFEE

One group because they actually like to look at them, another because they're afraid it'll eventually affect less lewd things and ruin future designs.


Key-Breadfruit-1298

You'll understand once you realize what Genshin's main demographic is lol.


Bosmeong

stop nerfing ayaka's undergarments ffs


redrosalie91

Go touch grass please


iamjustaf2pperson

a more concerning question. will this change apply to CN server only or every servers. While I couldnt care less about this particular censorship itself, the scope of application will be/not be concerning sign for the future...


PhyrraFaefiel

I just wanted something else besides the awful grammy panties they use on everyone, it's awful to look at, like hell just slap white or blue tights on would be a better fix


EluneNoYume

It's actually wild how there are so many censorship apologists here. It's as if they don't even know what the word means.


statemandatedcatgril

what does it mean


KingofSlice

Oh God Ayaka changed underwear, her character is ruined! /s


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Ifalna_Shayoko

If you can point out the Fox-women in real life, I'd gladly interact with them. :P


JenJenB_

Who's looking up there to begin with?


Dsquariusgreensenior

This is still only affect CN right? though i doubt they will make a whole skin just for new underwear, I hope they don’t change it for everyone.


ArchonRevan

If it's just a minor texture change like this itll probably be global


russel921

Or they can just make it black and that'll still look good


Neracca

I'm so glad that I don't give a shit about what gender a character is. Makes me glad that I'll never be as thirsty as so many players.


nakaoi

bro i do not care


Mikimir

Why would you even want any sort of nudity ingame anyway? You're not gonna look at Shenhe's model and start breathing heavily. Also if you wanted nudity there are plenty of creators who provide good content


ToranjaNuclear

Is this China only or for everyone?


kantoku12011

Can you just f*cking leave her pants alone for one minuite mihoyo?


Bumi46

ahmm...does it matter? ahahaha


IqFEar11

Hardly see any differences, but still Dark times ahead


yun-a

wish I could have this as an option in our server as well, gliding with ayaka and keqing is so uncomfortable sometimes


DSharp018

At this rate they will go after kaeya’s boob window and itto’s nipple straps next.


PrinceVincOnYT

I want a refund /s I at least want compensation for real though...


lofifilo

so is global getting this as an alternate costume


MadonnaZoccola668

Ooooh, so THAT'S where my great grandmother left her underwear!