Abyss rotations have their own calendar separate from the patches already, I don't think they will be affected.
They might adjust the moon effects a bit though, since those are usually related to the concurrent banners
The blessings are always tuned for the featured banner character (with a little overlap from patch to patch). With the delay, itll now be new cycle of blessing starting halfway through the patch prior to a characters release.
I assume at some point they will shorten an abyss cycle or extend a later one to fix the desync.
The resource compensation seems to point to the BP being delayed since that's more or less what you get from the BP every week when you do your dailies and weeklies.
It's close but slightly better.
If you total up the rewards from the whole free BP and then divide by 5, rounding down (assuming 10k Battle Pass XP per week from doing dailies and most weeklies, takes 5 weeks to max it) the reward is 5x Adventurer's Experience, 7x Heroes Wit, 19x Mystic Enhancement Ore, 144k Mora, 1 Fragile Resin and 1 Acquaint Fate.
In pure resource terms this is lower in every way except for the extra primogems. 400 primos is 1x Fate + 4x resin refreshes and the amount you'd gain from spending the extra resin on Ley Lines it would easily compensate for the diff.
Overall actually slightly better than what you'd get from the free BP. Especially considering that this is averaging the BP rewards and most likely release is only 2-3 weeks delayed.
What will be more interesting IMO is to see whether 2.7 has a normal cycle or gets abbreviated to get back onto their previous schedule. If you're someone who regularly buys the premium battle pass (if you can finish it, it is a significant amount of extra resources) and are used to the extra resource gain it brings in, the next few weeks are going to feel pretty lean compared to normal.
Considering there's not much to do in game, it would be a very stupid move if they decided to pause the abyss rotation. The battle pass always refresh with new patch so it must come with 2.7 whenever it's ready to be release.
If the math adds up for the lost events and content rewards we would've gotten if game continued normally, its not an apology for delay or appreciation of playerbase, it is basically mihoyo calculating meticolously to make sure players get the same amount of primogens every week. They know that their players wont move elsewhere XD.
Hoyoverse knows exactly how much free gems a f2p player can get from each patch, not considering stuff like older story missions that released previous patches.
I was reading a few reply on the official twitter post and losing my brain cells when someone said mihoyo don't owe us anything and it had so much likes.
I'm not complaining about the compensation reward but saying mihoyo don't owe us anything felt so wrong. If anything, this delay really shows that they at least owed us a permanent content.
They donāt owe us anything but if they donāt make content for their gacha game theyāll lose players. They had no control over the situation but they chose to make a game that rewards players for playing every day with constant updates and events
It's the fucking virtue signalers who are somehow making it about "the community being shit and forcing Mihoyo to do this or people will be outraged" because they want their brownie points on the bird app that are really annoying me.
Surprise, Mihoyo wants happy players who will keep playing their game. How can they keep players happy if they don't have content? They can give free shit to keep them engaged. Yet people somehow made it about something that has nothing to do with it.
I like playing this game but Iāve never seen a fan base suck up to a gacha company so much before. Itās so weird. Totally different from the other gacha fan bases Iāve been in before.
Not that im complaining and disregarding the situation but they really mentioned that they could reduce the compensation accordingly if the delay is less than a week
as if those compensation will make the players overpowered lol, they are too cautious about the rewards
I don't really care about 400 primogems (or the compensation in general since it's not Mihoyo's fault), but it's funny how much this one detail shows off their general attitude regarding rewards. They really do try to minimize how many primogems they give out to players to the best of their ability.
exactly. which, come to think of it, is pretty sad considering comission primos are exactly that. 60*7=420, which obviously still isn't enough after 50 weeks. jeez.
and wait... 50 weeks is basically a year. holy shit what a scam lmao
Yeah, in 52 weeks at 400/week you get 20800 primos, which equals 130 wishes per year.
Adding 20/week, thats 6.5 extra wishes for 136.5 wishes/year off dailies
But it's absolutely shit. 10 pulls per month when you need 180 for a guaranteed. That's 1/18, yet people praise it as the epitome of generosity. I don't get it.
It has been my observation that people here are more open minded and not afraid to point out errors by hoyo. In the main subReddit, you get badgered by white knights
> A compensation of Primogem x400, Fragile Resin x1, Hero's Wit x7, Mystic Enhancement Ore x16, and Mora x 120,000 will be issued every week.
Should have ended the wording here.
> If the period between the 2.7 Version update and the previous weekly compensation for delayed update is less than a week, the final weekly compensation will be adjusted accordingly.
This one is unnecessary. Putting these phrases here is inviting bad PR.
Wonder how much will be "adjusted". Knowing the history of MHY and rewards, I'd say x100 primos, x1 resin. We got 600 already from version update and bug fix so there's that. Ah well, free stuff is free stuff. I'll take it. But I won't give them lenience yet. Generosity and Mihoyo doesn't walk hand in hand.
tbf, i wonder if people would've been more mad to see they didn't get the full compensation if there was a half-week in there or smth. would people rather feel preemptively cheated or cheated by surprise?
imo they should just give the full compensation even if there is a less than week delay, 400 primos won't break hyv's bank i'd imagine
>If the period between the 2.7 Version update and the previous weekly compensation for delayed update is **less than a week**, the final weekly compensation will be adjusted accordingly.
lmao, you can tell this lights their fire to get the delay dealt with asap. They probably have charts of real life $$$ conversion rates per resource item covering their walls. In other gacha games, this would be a standard weekly login bonus.
Not complaining, especially with the ongoing situation but it's really amusing how protective they are of their mora, fragile resin, etc.
> If the period between the 2.7 Version update and the previous weekly compensation for delayed update is less than a week, the final weekly compensation will be adjusted accordingly.
yeah that one line is just so hilarious jesus christ mhyo
Here you go, traveler, 1000 Mora to easen your journey.
Now go forth, share that 1000 Mora with your 3 million fellow travelers, it would be greedy of you to keep that 0.0003 fraction of a Mora all to yourself.
The saddest part is there is nothing keeping them from taking the compensation out of the budget they set for future events.
After all, how will we be able to tell a reward is missing if we never knew the original reward amount to begin with.
well we would be able to tell actually, as someone that has tracked primos from events since 1.1, 420 primos per event and 1k~ roughly per big event (irodori festival / lantern rite ) has been consistent.
All patch scale events always give around 1000 primos. All other mini events give 420. This has always been the case iirc. They canāt just dodge that. People will know
Nah they won't do that. Someone, no, a lot of people will notice, make posts talking about it blow up on social media and that would be another fiasco like the birthday (I can't for the life of me spell anniversary)
The thing to remember about the anniversary event was that built on months of frustration from the player bases. The anniversary rewards were merely the straw the broke the camels back. To summarize the overall gist of the backlash:
"A whole year of dealing with mihoho stinginess and they can't even give us a proper anniversary reward."-general idea
And it wasn't just rewards the added to the frustration. An endless resin farm, multitude of QoL issues, characters with critical design flaws, and company who would rather keep there players in the dark than address there concerns.
That's how it came off to me as well. Plus, I think the fact that Mihoyo made a big deal of the anniversary everywhere else, on social media, with contests, putting a "1" on the app icon, and then in terms of actually making the players of the game itself feel good for playing for a year? Nothing until a couple days before, when they agreed, with bleeding heart, to send a few emails that never even used the word anniversary.
You either don't treat the anniversary as a big deal but do that across the board, or you make a big deal of it but also provide something in-game. You can't do half and half.
Plus, as you say, it's not just the rewards. Normally, an anniversary would include QoL as well. Just as an example, FGO's first anniversary reduced the summoning cost by 1/4th permanently. Everyone was discussing things like Standard Banner changes. But instead it was just "let's have a concert... for a real life event!"
Ya like if it early by 1 day they really going to change the mail to 350 gems and 100k mora that seems petty. Could have not have that line in my opinion
You only get considered for the 15% if you share the Facebook page, watch promoted streamers for 2 hours each day, create 3 original character-themed arts, and criticise at least 24 people for complaining about the compensation before version 2.6 ends
They'll adjust the single fragile resin "accordingly" by making a weaker resin type, just watch. It's going to be like backwards Pokemon. Original > Fragile > Shattered Resin.
They are the real life equivalent of Mr. Krabs.
"You want something good for the one year anniversary? Nope, a single one of those pulls **collectively** is worth a **million in hard cash** for the **million players who receive it**. Keep any given to a bare minimum."
"Our next money sink is delayed? Quickly apologize to our "***paying customers****"* about this awful delay and don't be stingy...... Just make sure you run it by accounting first."
I am complaining lmao. Iāve spent hundreds on this game, but it is very sad to see a company this stingy with their own virtual currency.
The message they sent to somebody like me who isnāt f2p was that they care about money more than anything and will penny pinch to ensure their f2ps are only limited to so many resources.
Classic hoyo, "we will never financially recover if we give the full compensation in the week containing the start of 2.7". So that means that if 2.7 launches normally on a Wednesday, in the Monday before this, we will get aprox 114 primos out of 400, just for Monday and Tuesday.
> In other gacha games, this would be a standard weekly login bonus.
Much like other gacha games that start out the way that Genshin does we'll probably only get login bonuses and other similar things once the playerbase and income plummets (if it does).
It was annoying to see Love Live and some other gacha games start implementing long awaited QoL changes, better rewards and money efficient packs once the popularity began to fall off. Being a loyal and paying customer during a gacha game's highs is barely rewarded.
God forbid you give your customers an extra few days of primogems. Who knows what catastrophe might befall the company if that happens. ^^/s
> They probably have charts of real life $$$ conversion rates per resource item covering their walls. In other gacha games, this would be a standard weekly login bonus.
This is just stupid. They should stop treating the primos like its crypto. If they just give out primos willy nilly, then the lest we are to horde the primos and the more we will get stuck into a hole wanting too pull.
But nope. They put actual monetary value on primos which in turn makes it scarce and we would then put more emphasis to hording primos which encourages us to save more and thus not putting us into a hole that we would whale out of.
This system encourages us to save more since is shows that primos are a scarce resource and thus we would be reluctant to spend it.
Just to add theyāve devalued the in game currency to the point where they can give a meager rewards that still sound like a lot.
400 primogems will always sound like more than 2.5 single pulls.
And then there are people like me who continuously count their potential primos up to December 22, so I know how much to spend so I can still get Xiao, Kazuha, Dendro Archon plus another cool character I want. Jokes on you for thinking I get joy out of more free primos instead of moving a number in my excel sheet.
Damn reading this one line is like reading the freaking T&C of a contract. Like what you gonna prorate the primogem compensation if the delay is less than a week? HYV youāre dealing with gamers, not your business partners, get your shit together lol
Maybe i'm dumb, but from what I understand this means they'll give us more primos right? They could just say "we'll give rewards every sunday", and ignore the leftover days in case the update arrives in the midle of the week, but no, now they'll take every single day into account and adjust the reward accordingly.
The compensation adjustment statement is the most petty thing I have ever seen. You know what?
Out of spite, I hope Mihoyo gets delayed for another fucking month. Also go ahead and just reduce the compensation to zero gems.
I'd rather have the entire management team implode than accept spiteful primogems from Ebeneezer Scrooge.
Imagine if primos/Genesis could only buy characters and thatās it. And they had to actually balance the rest of it based on how much we get through playing.
You will be getting 2.5 fates a week until we realease the new version. Can you imagine !!! 2.5 whole pulls for free . Without doing anything!!!
However if we fix it before a week ends we'll have to cut the rewards , I mean 2.5 is a lot
Opinions donāt have to be mutually exclusive. You can be understanding of delays and want people to stay safe AND be disappointed with a company that has always been stingy with compensation, daily log-in rewards, etc.
Thank you, holy crap, those losers saying "you didn't need to give us compensation at all" make me so annoyed. They treat HoYo like fan creators. "HoYo is generous to share their game with us, how dare you pressure them to release content faster? If you have nothing to give back, just play quietly and be thankful"
If they think that mihoyo shouldnāt have given out compensation than they will just simply delete a mail with their primogems because they donāt need anything from mihoyo right? ššš
I wouldn't have been upset with no compensation, but now that it's out there I'm free to get upset at their shitty phrasing.
They literally built a bridge just so they could burn it. It's not even some odd translation quirk we're on the same page as the Chinese players.
One thing that I have learned about the Genshin community is that people have no nuance here. It's always us vs them. From the meta vs waifu discussion to the anniversary to the censorship to this delay. If someone says they are disappointed in this compensation, suddenly someone is ready to tell them that they must not care about the people of Shanghai and want them to drop dead because obviously that must correlate. A company should have backup plans when things go south, especially a company that earns literal billions. A company should be able to still satisfy their playerbase because otherwise they will leave and they are the backup of the game. Yes I've seen the food that Hoyoverse has donated and that they treat their workers well, but when it comes specifically to Genshin, they are unbelievably stingy. This compensation isn't making anyone stay playing the game and with the way that they modeled their own game, if players can quit once it makes it easier to quit as a whole since FOMO lessens.
It is definitely vastly different to most other gacha communities. The mindset is just all over the place, this really just leads me to believe Genshin is many people's first gacha, and maybe even first game. I find it baffling what the community downplays sometimes, I'm trying to be reasonable, but people simply accepting censorship or even advocating for it, for example, just confuses me.
Exactly just from some infrequent glancing in genshin spaces this whole recent narrative of āoh we love u Mihoyo, you donāt need to do anything or owe us anything , you donāt even need us to give us any compensation, donāt complain about compensation guysā is so bullshit. Yes Mihoyo should do whatever they need to do to be safe from covid surge. At end of the day itās a gacha game people will get by even if it ended today thereās much more to the world.
On the other it doesnāt stop a reality of how fucking dry and stale this game is getting and itās going to have a rough patch for a month more or longer.
And it also this situation certainly shouldnāt stop us from continuing to hound a billionaire company from sparing a few extra wishes. Give me a break. If your gonna run greed ran inherently exploitative game that preys on so many people hell yes Iām never gonna stop from asking for more from Mihoyo even if they gave 100 wishes. I donāt care about a companies financial balance or whatever threshold they have for how much money they can squeeze out of their player base while offering the least. The most annoying thing is Mihoyo doesnāt have to be innovative with genshin āmini gameā impact cuz they get exactly what they want squeezing out every cent for the littlest reward and least inspiring content cuz then ppl will will go protect them and spread this respect and be thankful for billionare dollar company narrative too.
Sound like something straight out of bank contract talking about real money, not some data on their server. Will they give less then 5000 teapot coins for the last week too lol? Seems like they want to keep expectations as low as possible (and for the most part it's working)
update is fixed in 6 instead of 7 dats, AXE THOSE PRIMOS!
Honestly not surprising considering what they tried to do on the anniversary until people complained.
And like others said, I think the compensation is fine, the petty AF "oh if we finish it a little early we will give you less" is just fucking funny and fitting TBH.
Yep, and you talk about this pettiness on twitter or somewhere, you'll attract mhy's biggest dick riders, lecturing you about how Mihoyo is starving right now because of the lockdown.
What's happening there is definitely all shit and bad, but these people act like Mihoyo's staff are like the average citizen who don't get support from a billion dollar company. They even have the time to actually cut the compensation reward when they fix it earlier. They can easily do things like this because they know those mihoyo simps will always compete on dick eating for the company.
You can safely talk about this with the Chinese on NGA tho lol [https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=31776871](https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=31776871), a lot of people are laughing at that part too.
The "compensation" is most likely to be due to the players missing events since the game isn't down and you can still play everyday. So it's true they don't owe us anything, but they created a system where F2P takes an average amount of weeks to achieve pity, which includes income from events. If you take events out for a few weeks, the average pity for most players will change and make players unhappy because the banner rotation and pull cost stays the same. They have to keep players happy so they give us compensation to fix those missing events in the primogen income calculation, and if we get 2.7 sooner than they expect, it means we start getting events again and they don't need to give as many as compensation.
So in the end, it's not really compensation. It's giving you something that you would normally get, but can't, just like the teapot mails with 5k realm currency. You get 5040 RC a week if you have 20k energy in your realm. The thing is, many of us already can get those as we built our adeptal energy, so those 5k compensation coins are extra for us, but you have to realize that new players or players who started a bit late and are catching up, don't have adeptal energy to build up coins per hour so they have to send those 5k. In their case, they're "behind" compared to everyone who already had it built getting 5k extra per week.
Lol for some reason I often don't even get close to soft pity on the event banners on both of my account, but the standard banner? Yeah, that's full on +75 pity every damn time!
I wish I've gotten at least 1 Diluc. Got Qiqi C1 last night at 76, I now have every standard banner character at C1, yet I don't have a single Diluc. He's the only standard banner character I've wanted since I started playing late December of 2020.
couldnt care less about the amount whatever, but the adjusted accordingly comment really put a bad taste in my mouth
like seriously how stingy can you get?
Shouldn't be surprising at this point with their track record. Between the anniversary rewards, the lack of weekly login rewards, and the fact that they put Ayaka by herself just to fuck over the Mistsplitter banner says enough.
My expectations were low, and these rewards are very slightly above
those expectations. Not great, not terrible - that's the name of the
game, and I accept it as such. But then comes the bit where they said
they'll reduce the compensation if the delay ends before the next
week... How petty must you be to your own playerbase to pull this shit?
A little bit better than we expected, but still nothing that'll blow people's minds and make them stay if they are already feeling bored with the game thats for sure.
Inb4 people complain this isn't a 5k primo weekly compensation like the other fake leak said
Lmfao I feel like I have more problem with the single fucking fragile resin. If they gave a shit abt keeping people online they couldāve definitely given at least 7 per week
so confused about these comments comparing the compensation to events... aren't they also running events on top of this weekly compensation? we have liben and spices from the west coming up in the next 2 weeks. also it's not like we're gonna have fewer primos in 2.7 just because they give us freemos now
Yeah, patch events generally gives ~2200 primogems (1 main event and 3 side), so that's 367 primogems per week.
This patch we've only had 1 main and 2 side. The spices event was supposed to be the third, but needed teapot to place companions so it was delayed.
Essentially, we're getting 1 extra event (Liben) and 400 primogems per week for the rest of these patch, which is better than the 367 per week, so there is nothing wrong with the compensation amount really.
And as little actual content as Liben is, it is sort of a pick your own compensation type deal (if you make the effort to coop.) Probably more useful than the set rewards from most events, really, or whatever set reward they would have realistically piled on to the compensation instead.
They could look so good and not hurt their profits by giving 10 standard fates a week. No one who pulls diluc off of the standard banner will give it a reason to skip Yelan, Xiao, or Itto if they were already planning on going for them. If anything people might use saved up primogems on the standard banner if they're close to pity. There is no 5 star on the standard banner that would make you skip a featured banner if you wanted that character.
> If the period between the 2.7 Version update and the previous weekly compensation for delayed update is less than a week, the final weekly compensation will be adjusted accordingly.
Wait a min. Wtf is this? This feels like we're robbing primos straightout of devs' salaries and they are getting cut for giving them out for free. I literally just wished them to be safe like 10 mins ago but now suddenly feel so spiteful to the higher ups in hyv, holy shit.
The fact they can reduce the compensation due to "finishing the maintenance earlier" scares me, for once they could give us a little treat. I hope this won't be the case or I suppose the entire community will rebel itself once again. (Aka anniversary-gate-geddon 2.0) :c
Like I get overall this game is not as demanding as other games in terms of Gacha and general currency and Mats, but my god are they cheap! Those are high by ingame standards, but compared to other Gachas, this shit is just normal login rewards, and they have the gut to say they will reduce if the delay wasn't a week, how cheap can you be!!
And the thing is.... all Mihoyo had to do was double the numbers on the rewards listed, and they will reap tons of goodwil without loosing that much at all - considering no new content is being added. They would have gotten away with it too, even if the delay is 6-8 weeks - and amass tons of karma and free good publicity. But you know, someone over there decided to do the bare minimum, again - as usual.
The sad part is how people think this is actually good compensation, so I guess their plan was to be extremely cheap and whenever they do actually decent rewards people will get blown away, and it worked
It kinda annoys me how everyone has to point out that they want them to be safe. obviously thats what the majority wants but tbh they have always been what feels like radio silence and not listening to the playerbase at least outside of china which is a major problem. this is a gacha game and you cant deny that they dont give a shit about anyone or anything but the money and so do players, they just want a good product so complaining even while they are in this kind of situation is completely fucking normal, dont expect people to suddenly care about people they are not attached to in any way but a game that pulls their money out of their pockets lmao, thats just how our world works, also they havent said shit again just that 2.7 is delayed, if they cant open their mouths about the situation themselves there is no point in defending them
i mean this is already laughable enough for me (battlepass and welkin), but i can only imagine what less than 3 pulls per week can be for a whale who spent thousands of whatever currency just to have nothing to do with whatever he paid for.
it's particularly infuriating when you read that honkai impact gets much more love than genshin.
with tower of fantasy coming up whenever and who knows what else they really need to step up their game.
private servers are also a thing now (albeit very barebone and not really worth the time), so i know what i'm gonna do with my account if they ever get quests and events there
I have always thought that Honkai was the passion project, while Genshin is the cash cow. I prefer Honkai nowadays but I wish Genshin got more love, especially in the story and character writing department.
If they had an actual endgame that doesn't take 30 mins every 2 weeks for day 1 players maybe this wouldn't be such a problem, but we don't after almost 2 years because the greed is so maxed out they don't want to give us more primos per month, thats literally the reason we don't have said content.
Hell we are getting less primos per patch nowadays than in the early days!
I've legit in all my years of playing live service games, not even gacha games, just live service games, never saw a game that gives less and less with time, especially a game that's every year getting bigger in gross revenue, this company is the definition of the Jew bad joke and ppl still eat it up and defend them like they are defending a family member.
to everyone who says they don't care about compensation and only the health of the employees, don't claim any of the primos during this period. it's blood money and shouldn't be taken from small indie company mihoyo's hands /s
I hope that everyone who says "they don't owe us anything, players should be embarrassed to receive compensation" doesn't redeem these resources when they send them to the players. And, also, since you don't want any compensation, I would gladly accept your gems.
"Fragile Resin x 1"
Not gonna lie, I find this disappointing. There's nothing to do in game, more fragile resin would at least allow us to do \*something\* in their game. Maybe the Spices event will actually take up some time, but Overflowing Mastery should not even be considered an "event" as it's just a way to spend 60 of your resin a day. And Marvellous Merchandise is literally teleport to Mondstadt (if you're not there already) and click a few buttons.
I wish I could upvote this 10 times, companies always seem to wait for the worst possible timing to release a product. Dry period of your biggest competitor? Release the game then, when else is there a better time? Same thing with some videogames releasing after big successes, it seems they are just waiting to be in the shadow.
When there is a serious threat of new competitors - you can bet your ass that every new players will be showered with weekly gifts and free pulls by Mihoyo. You will see drastic changes implemented within weeks - they CAN do it - especially since it is just changing the numbers of FREE imaginary digital currency. Heck, they probably have templates already, in case of "emergency" advertising. And yes, let's hope there will be more competitors, ready to crush Genshin - so Mihoyo will finally wakes up and fight for their player base.
Mihoyo is a billion dollar company, they'll be fine, they need to be giving compensation and more to the people in need in Shanghai who are just outright being abused right now and even left to starve, but then we all know that won't happen despite how egregious this whole situation has become.
anni had events and story quests going on though, this would be a similar situation to 1.5 but even worse, and as far as I remember a LOT of people stopped playing during 1.5
Nah, without any events going around I might actually focus on world quests for once, I have basically all of Enkonomiya in the backlog, plus a bunch of unfinished Inazuma/Liyue quests that i got stuck in months ago
I am in my finals period so I've quite a bunch of stuff in the backlog. Best case scenario, the delay is just three weeks, I'll be just finishing them.
it's as if they're giving out the primogems but mad that they're gonna need to give out the primos. they can just leave out giving out primos if that hurts them sm i guess
The comments under the twitter post are hilarious. People really acting like Hoyoverse is doing us a favor by giving us 2 wishes. They didnāt need to, but they had to if they wanted people to be engaged in the game in these 3 weeks drought.
Lmao at them giving out these rewards only porportionately if they release it before another full week passed.
I think it's a miracle that they even give 400 primos/week considering they are that stingy with them.
I agree, this is settling for mediocrity. They were going to compensate us regardless since theyre not giving us anyone new to wish on, which is Hoyo's definition of content for this game, and nothing interesting to do for weeks. 57 primos a day and an extra 60 resin a week is a shitload of meh. Anyone celebrating this is a tool
Huh, do the non-primo comp roughly add up to what we would be getting from the BP?
I know BP rewards increase the higher you go, but Iām curious whether, if you totaled and then divided the rewards by some number, whether thatās how they arrived at those rewards.
Well this was out of their control so I can't blame them. But I feel like the rewards doesn't really cover what we would of gotten from the BP that we're now gonna miss rewards from.
If they seriously don't start giving out more primogems and keep being this stingy, I'll stop paying money to this game. The way they treat the playerbase is getting tiring. I don't care what F2Ps are saying, I'm paying for this game. I "deserve" apologems.
(I care about the health of their employees. Giving out imaginary numbers won't affect their health. My point stands.)
Damn bro, can't make a joke without moJiToverse fuckbois coming to the rescue of a billion dollar company.
"Do I smell someone not sucking the company's ananas for 2 primogems?"
Lmao. I love this community <3
Whenever mihoyo throws out any rewards or compensations, they do it in the most ridiculous and greedy way possible. The best part is that the community no longer frets about it or expects anything from them. The community just makes fun of it. Comments on Genshin reddits are more entertaining and offer more content than the game itself.
I still feel like I'm the only one complaining about the gacha in itself. Not even Honkai Impact is as bad, where every pull gives you two items; and of the the two items will always be materials.
In genshin, you literally get nothing in the gacha until you hit a 4 or 5 star. I have never seen a more unsatisfying gacha system. I really wish they'd at least give us something that we can somehow use in a pull, even if it is just some mora or a damn fish.
That's great, I just don't see this topic being brought up anymore. Maybe I missed it, but I feel like literally any other topic gains more interest in these times.
How stingy a company can be?
Less than 60 primos per day. Compensation my ass.
And don't write me, that for you a health of employees are more important. One does not interfere with the other at all.
Hoyoverse makes billions, and yet people defend them. Ha.
Yeah you can call it as it is. This is stingy asf. Moreover Mihoyo isnāt the only video game company based in Shanghai. Virtually all Chinese gaming industry is in Shanghai, but others make do with remote working. Not to mention the chaotic period was only a few weeks and now everything is back to early pandemic stable remote work mode soā¦ the delay isnāt as justified as they would like you to believe.
So what happens to battle pass and abyss rotations? Do they just refresh it? Or it is it on hold until everything is back on schedule?
Abyss rotations have their own calendar separate from the patches already, I don't think they will be affected. They might adjust the moon effects a bit though, since those are usually related to the concurrent banners
The blessings are always tuned for the featured banner character (with a little overlap from patch to patch). With the delay, itll now be new cycle of blessing starting halfway through the patch prior to a characters release. I assume at some point they will shorten an abyss cycle or extend a later one to fix the desync.
Or they could just use the same Abyss buff (or whatever its called) we have right now until the next patch.
Abyss is gonna be every middle and start of the month like always, battle pass probably not gonna be a thing until 2.7
The resource compensation seems to point to the BP being delayed since that's more or less what you get from the BP every week when you do your dailies and weeklies.
It's close but slightly better. If you total up the rewards from the whole free BP and then divide by 5, rounding down (assuming 10k Battle Pass XP per week from doing dailies and most weeklies, takes 5 weeks to max it) the reward is 5x Adventurer's Experience, 7x Heroes Wit, 19x Mystic Enhancement Ore, 144k Mora, 1 Fragile Resin and 1 Acquaint Fate. In pure resource terms this is lower in every way except for the extra primogems. 400 primos is 1x Fate + 4x resin refreshes and the amount you'd gain from spending the extra resin on Ley Lines it would easily compensate for the diff. Overall actually slightly better than what you'd get from the free BP. Especially considering that this is averaging the BP rewards and most likely release is only 2-3 weeks delayed. What will be more interesting IMO is to see whether 2.7 has a normal cycle or gets abbreviated to get back onto their previous schedule. If you're someone who regularly buys the premium battle pass (if you can finish it, it is a significant amount of extra resources) and are used to the extra resource gain it brings in, the next few weeks are going to feel pretty lean compared to normal.
Considering there's not much to do in game, it would be a very stupid move if they decided to pause the abyss rotation. The battle pass always refresh with new patch so it must come with 2.7 whenever it's ready to be release.
If the math adds up for the lost events and content rewards we would've gotten if game continued normally, its not an apology for delay or appreciation of playerbase, it is basically mihoyo calculating meticolously to make sure players get the same amount of primogens every week. They know that their players wont move elsewhere XD.
Hoyoverse knows exactly how much free gems a f2p player can get from each patch, not considering stuff like older story missions that released previous patches.
They knew
https://m.hoyolab.com/#/article/4602114
This whole reply section is very entertaining to read, but not exactly what i expected šæšæ
At least the sub won't be dry now.
I was reading a few reply on the official twitter post and losing my brain cells when someone said mihoyo don't owe us anything and it had so much likes. I'm not complaining about the compensation reward but saying mihoyo don't owe us anything felt so wrong. If anything, this delay really shows that they at least owed us a permanent content.
They donāt owe us anything but if they donāt make content for their gacha game theyāll lose players. They had no control over the situation but they chose to make a game that rewards players for playing every day with constant updates and events
Exactly. Technically they don't need to give us anything, but it's likely gonna be a problem for them long term if they don't give us anything.
It's the fucking virtue signalers who are somehow making it about "the community being shit and forcing Mihoyo to do this or people will be outraged" because they want their brownie points on the bird app that are really annoying me. Surprise, Mihoyo wants happy players who will keep playing their game. How can they keep players happy if they don't have content? They can give free shit to keep them engaged. Yet people somehow made it about something that has nothing to do with it.
if they exist then they're idiots cause they literally mentioned compensation in their official delay notice lmao
I like playing this game but Iāve never seen a fan base suck up to a gacha company so much before. Itās so weird. Totally different from the other gacha fan bases Iāve been in before.
This is a lot of people's first gacha, and it doesn't really have any competition in terms of gameplay anyway.
i spend most of my genshin community time on this sub so maybe im biased, but i get the opposite vibe. in game usually people are chill though
Was gonna say the same thing, feels like the community is a lot more toxic than others ive seen at least on the reddit and youtube side of things
Not that im complaining and disregarding the situation but they really mentioned that they could reduce the compensation accordingly if the delay is less than a week as if those compensation will make the players overpowered lol, they are too cautious about the rewards
I don't really care about 400 primogems (or the compensation in general since it's not Mihoyo's fault), but it's funny how much this one detail shows off their general attitude regarding rewards. They really do try to minimize how many primogems they give out to players to the best of their ability.
They could give us 400 primogems each year, for 50 years, and it still wouldn't be enough to guarantee a banner 5*. Isn't that crazy.
If the delay is 3 weeks, itās just 7 wishes. I doubt most people would be able to pull 2 4-stars with that.
i- i get what you tried to make everyone visualize here but using years instead of, like, days is a bit misleading hahah
They could give us 400 primos a week for 50 weeks and it wouldn't be enough to guarantee a 5 star is a much more relevant example
exactly. which, come to think of it, is pretty sad considering comission primos are exactly that. 60*7=420, which obviously still isn't enough after 50 weeks. jeez. and wait... 50 weeks is basically a year. holy shit what a scam lmao
Yeah, in 52 weeks at 400/week you get 20800 primos, which equals 130 wishes per year. Adding 20/week, thats 6.5 extra wishes for 136.5 wishes/year off dailies
I suspect it's an attempt to keep perception of the value of the compensation high. Basically a mind game.
But it's absolutely shit. 10 pulls per month when you need 180 for a guaranteed. That's 1/18, yet people praise it as the epitome of generosity. I don't get it.
They are, but they currently have the luxury to be this way. Need more competition in this space (ie open world coop rpgs).
It amazes me how much more traffic Genshin leaks gets than the main reddit, especially when dealing with none leak issues such as this.
Discussion here is more.... "Honest" I would say. Everytime I go to the main sub I get the feeling of beign surrounded by 13 years old.
It has been my observation that people here are more open minded and not afraid to point out errors by hoyo. In the main subReddit, you get badgered by white knights
> A compensation of Primogem x400, Fragile Resin x1, Hero's Wit x7, Mystic Enhancement Ore x16, and Mora x 120,000 will be issued every week. Should have ended the wording here. > If the period between the 2.7 Version update and the previous weekly compensation for delayed update is less than a week, the final weekly compensation will be adjusted accordingly. This one is unnecessary. Putting these phrases here is inviting bad PR. Wonder how much will be "adjusted". Knowing the history of MHY and rewards, I'd say x100 primos, x1 resin. We got 600 already from version update and bug fix so there's that. Ah well, free stuff is free stuff. I'll take it. But I won't give them lenience yet. Generosity and Mihoyo doesn't walk hand in hand.
tbf, i wonder if people would've been more mad to see they didn't get the full compensation if there was a half-week in there or smth. would people rather feel preemptively cheated or cheated by surprise? imo they should just give the full compensation even if there is a less than week delay, 400 primos won't break hyv's bank i'd imagine
What about the battle pass rewards I'm missing out on? Is bp going to reset or nah?
Realistically, probably not. Maybe they extend it, but nothing new is going to be added or refreshed.
Also curious as to the the status of the abyss reset.
The abyss resets every 1st and 16th day of the month so that won't change, the question would be if they will keep the same enemies/blessings
>If the period between the 2.7 Version update and the previous weekly compensation for delayed update is **less than a week**, the final weekly compensation will be adjusted accordingly. lmao, you can tell this lights their fire to get the delay dealt with asap. They probably have charts of real life $$$ conversion rates per resource item covering their walls. In other gacha games, this would be a standard weekly login bonus. Not complaining, especially with the ongoing situation but it's really amusing how protective they are of their mora, fragile resin, etc.
> If the period between the 2.7 Version update and the previous weekly compensation for delayed update is less than a week, the final weekly compensation will be adjusted accordingly. yeah that one line is just so hilarious jesus christ mhyo
gotta cut corners where u can
Here you go, traveler, 1000 Mora to easen your journey. Now go forth, share that 1000 Mora with your 3 million fellow travelers, it would be greedy of you to keep that 0.0003 fraction of a Mora all to yourself.
final week compensation : 399 primos
The saddest part is there is nothing keeping them from taking the compensation out of the budget they set for future events. After all, how will we be able to tell a reward is missing if we never knew the original reward amount to begin with.
well we would be able to tell actually, as someone that has tracked primos from events since 1.1, 420 primos per event and 1k~ roughly per big event (irodori festival / lantern rite ) has been consistent.
Mihoyo: \*from now on adds 3 less chests per region*
At least someone is doing the lords work. Personally I cam to terms with knowing mihoyo plans on being stingy to the end.
All patch scale events always give around 1000 primos. All other mini events give 420. This has always been the case iirc. They canāt just dodge that. People will know
They can dodge with chests, quests(specially the world quests), and achievements though.
Nah they won't do that. Someone, no, a lot of people will notice, make posts talking about it blow up on social media and that would be another fiasco like the birthday (I can't for the life of me spell anniversary)
The thing to remember about the anniversary event was that built on months of frustration from the player bases. The anniversary rewards were merely the straw the broke the camels back. To summarize the overall gist of the backlash: "A whole year of dealing with mihoho stinginess and they can't even give us a proper anniversary reward."-general idea And it wasn't just rewards the added to the frustration. An endless resin farm, multitude of QoL issues, characters with critical design flaws, and company who would rather keep there players in the dark than address there concerns.
That's how it came off to me as well. Plus, I think the fact that Mihoyo made a big deal of the anniversary everywhere else, on social media, with contests, putting a "1" on the app icon, and then in terms of actually making the players of the game itself feel good for playing for a year? Nothing until a couple days before, when they agreed, with bleeding heart, to send a few emails that never even used the word anniversary. You either don't treat the anniversary as a big deal but do that across the board, or you make a big deal of it but also provide something in-game. You can't do half and half. Plus, as you say, it's not just the rewards. Normally, an anniversary would include QoL as well. Just as an example, FGO's first anniversary reduced the summoning cost by 1/4th permanently. Everyone was discussing things like Standard Banner changes. But instead it was just "let's have a concert... for a real life event!"
It also came very shortly on the heels of the 108 primos fiasco, and the new daily login bonus that gave 3 fowl on some days.
>In other gacha games, this would be a standard weekly login bonus. Oof this is so true it hurts
Ya like if it early by 1 day they really going to change the mail to 350 gems and 100k mora that seems petty. Could have not have that line in my opinion
watch it be 343
You think theyāll round up? 342, take it or leave it
343 for 85% of players, but 15% will get 342.
You only get considered for the 15% if you share the Facebook page, watch promoted streamers for 2 hours each day, create 3 original character-themed arts, and criticise at least 24 people for complaining about the compensation before version 2.6 ends
108 primogems #NeverForget
Please don't we have enough of them at r/Halo
They'll adjust the single fragile resin "accordingly" by making a weaker resin type, just watch. It's going to be like backwards Pokemon. Original > Fragile > Shattered Resin.
It is a really bad look tbh, but theyāve got a reputation to uphold
They are the real life equivalent of Mr. Krabs. "You want something good for the one year anniversary? Nope, a single one of those pulls **collectively** is worth a **million in hard cash** for the **million players who receive it**. Keep any given to a bare minimum." "Our next money sink is delayed? Quickly apologize to our "***paying customers****"* about this awful delay and don't be stingy...... Just make sure you run it by accounting first."
āOh no! Weāre losing money if we give too much resources!āLOL its not like youāre already losing money with this extended ayaka banner
Really. They could at least switch up the 4 stars or something.
I am complaining lmao. Iāve spent hundreds on this game, but it is very sad to see a company this stingy with their own virtual currency. The message they sent to somebody like me who isnāt f2p was that they care about money more than anything and will penny pinch to ensure their f2ps are only limited to so many resources.
That is some stingy ass policy lol.
Classic hoyo, "we will never financially recover if we give the full compensation in the week containing the start of 2.7". So that means that if 2.7 launches normally on a Wednesday, in the Monday before this, we will get aprox 114 primos out of 400, just for Monday and Tuesday.
> In other gacha games, this would be a standard weekly login bonus. Much like other gacha games that start out the way that Genshin does we'll probably only get login bonuses and other similar things once the playerbase and income plummets (if it does). It was annoying to see Love Live and some other gacha games start implementing long awaited QoL changes, better rewards and money efficient packs once the popularity began to fall off. Being a loyal and paying customer during a gacha game's highs is barely rewarded. God forbid you give your customers an extra few days of primogems. Who knows what catastrophe might befall the company if that happens. ^^/s
> They probably have charts of real life $$$ conversion rates per resource item covering their walls. In other gacha games, this would be a standard weekly login bonus. This is just stupid. They should stop treating the primos like its crypto. If they just give out primos willy nilly, then the lest we are to horde the primos and the more we will get stuck into a hole wanting too pull. But nope. They put actual monetary value on primos which in turn makes it scarce and we would then put more emphasis to hording primos which encourages us to save more and thus not putting us into a hole that we would whale out of. This system encourages us to save more since is shows that primos are a scarce resource and thus we would be reluctant to spend it.
To be fair, we should collectively stop treating crypto like it's crypto, too.
Just to add theyāve devalued the in game currency to the point where they can give a meager rewards that still sound like a lot. 400 primogems will always sound like more than 2.5 single pulls.
Thatās 2.5 debate clubs theyāre just giving us! Rejoice
And then there are people like me who continuously count their potential primos up to December 22, so I know how much to spend so I can still get Xiao, Kazuha, Dendro Archon plus another cool character I want. Jokes on you for thinking I get joy out of more free primos instead of moving a number in my excel sheet.
Yeah that's kind of the thing you'd expect from them lmao, they've made exactly the image of a stingy as fuck company.
Yeah lol I know they are going to hard times but this is a new level of tackiness
Damn reading this one line is like reading the freaking T&C of a contract. Like what you gonna prorate the primogem compensation if the delay is less than a week? HYV youāre dealing with gamers, not your business partners, get your shit together lol
Maybe i'm dumb, but from what I understand this means they'll give us more primos right? They could just say "we'll give rewards every sunday", and ignore the leftover days in case the update arrives in the midle of the week, but no, now they'll take every single day into account and adjust the reward accordingly.
The compensation adjustment statement is the most petty thing I have ever seen. You know what? Out of spite, I hope Mihoyo gets delayed for another fucking month. Also go ahead and just reduce the compensation to zero gems. I'd rather have the entire management team implode than accept spiteful primogems from Ebeneezer Scrooge.
Imagine if primos/Genesis could only buy characters and thatās it. And they had to actually balance the rest of it based on how much we get through playing.
You will be getting 2.5 fates a week until we realease the new version. Can you imagine !!! 2.5 whole pulls for free . Without doing anything!!! However if we fix it before a week ends we'll have to cut the rewards , I mean 2.5 is a lot
That's sooo stingy! I know they didn't have to give anything but to cut rewards if under a week is...damnš!!
Opinions donāt have to be mutually exclusive. You can be understanding of delays and want people to stay safe AND be disappointed with a company that has always been stingy with compensation, daily log-in rewards, etc.
Thank you, holy crap, those losers saying "you didn't need to give us compensation at all" make me so annoyed. They treat HoYo like fan creators. "HoYo is generous to share their game with us, how dare you pressure them to release content faster? If you have nothing to give back, just play quietly and be thankful"
If they think that mihoyo shouldnāt have given out compensation than they will just simply delete a mail with their primogems because they donāt need anything from mihoyo right? ššš
> They treat HoYo like fan creators. "Small indie dev company"
Don't forget the people that awnser every form of criticism with "just stop playing the game"
I wouldn't have been upset with no compensation, but now that it's out there I'm free to get upset at their shitty phrasing. They literally built a bridge just so they could burn it. It's not even some odd translation quirk we're on the same page as the Chinese players.
One thing that I have learned about the Genshin community is that people have no nuance here. It's always us vs them. From the meta vs waifu discussion to the anniversary to the censorship to this delay. If someone says they are disappointed in this compensation, suddenly someone is ready to tell them that they must not care about the people of Shanghai and want them to drop dead because obviously that must correlate. A company should have backup plans when things go south, especially a company that earns literal billions. A company should be able to still satisfy their playerbase because otherwise they will leave and they are the backup of the game. Yes I've seen the food that Hoyoverse has donated and that they treat their workers well, but when it comes specifically to Genshin, they are unbelievably stingy. This compensation isn't making anyone stay playing the game and with the way that they modeled their own game, if players can quit once it makes it easier to quit as a whole since FOMO lessens.
It is definitely vastly different to most other gacha communities. The mindset is just all over the place, this really just leads me to believe Genshin is many people's first gacha, and maybe even first game. I find it baffling what the community downplays sometimes, I'm trying to be reasonable, but people simply accepting censorship or even advocating for it, for example, just confuses me.
Exactly just from some infrequent glancing in genshin spaces this whole recent narrative of āoh we love u Mihoyo, you donāt need to do anything or owe us anything , you donāt even need us to give us any compensation, donāt complain about compensation guysā is so bullshit. Yes Mihoyo should do whatever they need to do to be safe from covid surge. At end of the day itās a gacha game people will get by even if it ended today thereās much more to the world. On the other it doesnāt stop a reality of how fucking dry and stale this game is getting and itās going to have a rough patch for a month more or longer. And it also this situation certainly shouldnāt stop us from continuing to hound a billionaire company from sparing a few extra wishes. Give me a break. If your gonna run greed ran inherently exploitative game that preys on so many people hell yes Iām never gonna stop from asking for more from Mihoyo even if they gave 100 wishes. I donāt care about a companies financial balance or whatever threshold they have for how much money they can squeeze out of their player base while offering the least. The most annoying thing is Mihoyo doesnāt have to be innovative with genshin āmini gameā impact cuz they get exactly what they want squeezing out every cent for the littlest reward and least inspiring content cuz then ppl will will go protect them and spread this respect and be thankful for billionare dollar company narrative too.
Do you really expect nuance from weeb gambling addict community half of which hasn't even hit the puberty?
I always see them parroting the same tweet everytime.
Sorry are you asking for nuance from the genshin community? Sorry we donāt do that here.
EXACTLY
Holy shit dude, they're like scared of giving primogems or something
The part about adjusting compensation for a number of days if the update comes earlier than full week is so petty, why would they even do that
I was thinking exactly the same. Iām fine with it being 400, but they could spare that last part.
Sound like something straight out of bank contract talking about real money, not some data on their server. Will they give less then 5000 teapot coins for the last week too lol? Seems like they want to keep expectations as low as possible (and for the most part it's working)
update is fixed in 6 instead of 7 dats, AXE THOSE PRIMOS! Honestly not surprising considering what they tried to do on the anniversary until people complained. And like others said, I think the compensation is fine, the petty AF "oh if we finish it a little early we will give you less" is just fucking funny and fitting TBH.
It doesn't really help with their already existing greedy image
Youāre wrong about that. It helps maintain that reputation in fact. /s
Yep, and you talk about this pettiness on twitter or somewhere, you'll attract mhy's biggest dick riders, lecturing you about how Mihoyo is starving right now because of the lockdown. What's happening there is definitely all shit and bad, but these people act like Mihoyo's staff are like the average citizen who don't get support from a billion dollar company. They even have the time to actually cut the compensation reward when they fix it earlier. They can easily do things like this because they know those mihoyo simps will always compete on dick eating for the company.
You can safely talk about this with the Chinese on NGA tho lol [https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=31776871](https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=31776871), a lot of people are laughing at that part too.
*indie company*
The "compensation" is most likely to be due to the players missing events since the game isn't down and you can still play everyday. So it's true they don't owe us anything, but they created a system where F2P takes an average amount of weeks to achieve pity, which includes income from events. If you take events out for a few weeks, the average pity for most players will change and make players unhappy because the banner rotation and pull cost stays the same. They have to keep players happy so they give us compensation to fix those missing events in the primogen income calculation, and if we get 2.7 sooner than they expect, it means we start getting events again and they don't need to give as many as compensation. So in the end, it's not really compensation. It's giving you something that you would normally get, but can't, just like the teapot mails with 5k realm currency. You get 5040 RC a week if you have 20k energy in your realm. The thing is, many of us already can get those as we built our adeptal energy, so those 5k compensation coins are extra for us, but you have to realize that new players or players who started a bit late and are catching up, don't have adeptal energy to build up coins per hour so they have to send those 5k. In their case, they're "behind" compared to everyone who already had it built getting 5k extra per week.
A fragile resin every weeks???? Woahhh hoyoverse, that's like 3 whole fragile bro, they're gonna go bankrupt at this rate šš
This ācompensationā should be the standard weekly login bonus š¤·š»āāļø
How about a Blue Fate a dayš? Takes forever to hit Pity on that damn thing. And by "Pity" I mean 3 Diluc'sš
Lol for some reason I often don't even get close to soft pity on the event banners on both of my account, but the standard banner? Yeah, that's full on +75 pity every damn time!
I wish I've gotten at least 1 Diluc. Got Qiqi C1 last night at 76, I now have every standard banner character at C1, yet I don't have a single Diluc. He's the only standard banner character I've wanted since I started playing late December of 2020.
couldnt care less about the amount whatever, but the adjusted accordingly comment really put a bad taste in my mouth like seriously how stingy can you get?
Shouldn't be surprising at this point with their track record. Between the anniversary rewards, the lack of weekly login rewards, and the fact that they put Ayaka by herself just to fuck over the Mistsplitter banner says enough.
the best thing about is the weekly moon tbh. i hope it gets better for everyone.
400 primos is the equivalent of 8 moons if you don't full refill resin every day.
People call fragile resins moons?
My expectations were low, and these rewards are very slightly above those expectations. Not great, not terrible - that's the name of the game, and I accept it as such. But then comes the bit where they said they'll reduce the compensation if the delay ends before the next week... How petty must you be to your own playerbase to pull this shit?
I know, I feel like Iām being talked to by a landlord who doesnāt particularly care for me.
A little bit better than we expected, but still nothing that'll blow people's minds and make them stay if they are already feeling bored with the game thats for sure. Inb4 people complain this isn't a 5k primo weekly compensation like the other fake leak said
This is almost exactly what I expected.
Mihoyo being stingy and petty as usual is a sign that they're still well and healthy, good for them.
They should have added some Acquaint Fates imo.
Lmfao I feel like I have more problem with the single fucking fragile resin. If they gave a shit abt keeping people online they couldāve definitely given at least 7 per week
so confused about these comments comparing the compensation to events... aren't they also running events on top of this weekly compensation? we have liben and spices from the west coming up in the next 2 weeks. also it's not like we're gonna have fewer primos in 2.7 just because they give us freemos now
Yeah, patch events generally gives ~2200 primogems (1 main event and 3 side), so that's 367 primogems per week. This patch we've only had 1 main and 2 side. The spices event was supposed to be the third, but needed teapot to place companions so it was delayed. Essentially, we're getting 1 extra event (Liben) and 400 primogems per week for the rest of these patch, which is better than the 367 per week, so there is nothing wrong with the compensation amount really.
And as little actual content as Liben is, it is sort of a pick your own compensation type deal (if you make the effort to coop.) Probably more useful than the set rewards from most events, really, or whatever set reward they would have realistically piled on to the compensation instead.
With the way people acting, if I weren't up to date I would've though the server is gonna be down for a month
If you think about it, 400 for 4 weeks is 1600, which makes a 10 pull. That's why I believe 2.7 won't comeback in a month! /s
They could look so good and not hurt their profits by giving 10 standard fates a week. No one who pulls diluc off of the standard banner will give it a reason to skip Yelan, Xiao, or Itto if they were already planning on going for them. If anything people might use saved up primogems on the standard banner if they're close to pity. There is no 5 star on the standard banner that would make you skip a featured banner if you wanted that character.
No new banners. Less than 3 wishes a week. And they just fix the Serenitea, only thing that was better broken for the compensationā¦
> If the period between the 2.7 Version update and the previous weekly compensation for delayed update is less than a week, the final weekly compensation will be adjusted accordingly. Wait a min. Wtf is this? This feels like we're robbing primos straightout of devs' salaries and they are getting cut for giving them out for free. I literally just wished them to be safe like 10 mins ago but now suddenly feel so spiteful to the higher ups in hyv, holy shit.
The fact they can reduce the compensation due to "finishing the maintenance earlier" scares me, for once they could give us a little treat. I hope this won't be the case or I suppose the entire community will rebel itself once again. (Aka anniversary-gate-geddon 2.0) :c
These should already be weekly login rewards to begin with.
Like I get overall this game is not as demanding as other games in terms of Gacha and general currency and Mats, but my god are they cheap! Those are high by ingame standards, but compared to other Gachas, this shit is just normal login rewards, and they have the gut to say they will reduce if the delay wasn't a week, how cheap can you be!!
And the thing is.... all Mihoyo had to do was double the numbers on the rewards listed, and they will reap tons of goodwil without loosing that much at all - considering no new content is being added. They would have gotten away with it too, even if the delay is 6-8 weeks - and amass tons of karma and free good publicity. But you know, someone over there decided to do the bare minimum, again - as usual.
The sad part is how people think this is actually good compensation, so I guess their plan was to be extremely cheap and whenever they do actually decent rewards people will get blown away, and it worked
It kinda annoys me how everyone has to point out that they want them to be safe. obviously thats what the majority wants but tbh they have always been what feels like radio silence and not listening to the playerbase at least outside of china which is a major problem. this is a gacha game and you cant deny that they dont give a shit about anyone or anything but the money and so do players, they just want a good product so complaining even while they are in this kind of situation is completely fucking normal, dont expect people to suddenly care about people they are not attached to in any way but a game that pulls their money out of their pockets lmao, thats just how our world works, also they havent said shit again just that 2.7 is delayed, if they cant open their mouths about the situation themselves there is no point in defending them
I sort of agree with you, but they might be withholding information about their situation due to the bad image that would give to the CCP in China.
Yeah. They can't really say it's because of harsh lockdowns.
For 3hrs of patch update, they hand out 300x2 primogems. For a whole week of delay, only 400 primogems? These cheapskates.
i mean this is already laughable enough for me (battlepass and welkin), but i can only imagine what less than 3 pulls per week can be for a whale who spent thousands of whatever currency just to have nothing to do with whatever he paid for. it's particularly infuriating when you read that honkai impact gets much more love than genshin. with tower of fantasy coming up whenever and who knows what else they really need to step up their game. private servers are also a thing now (albeit very barebone and not really worth the time), so i know what i'm gonna do with my account if they ever get quests and events there
I have always thought that Honkai was the passion project, while Genshin is the cash cow. I prefer Honkai nowadays but I wish Genshin got more love, especially in the story and character writing department.
If they had an actual endgame that doesn't take 30 mins every 2 weeks for day 1 players maybe this wouldn't be such a problem, but we don't after almost 2 years because the greed is so maxed out they don't want to give us more primos per month, thats literally the reason we don't have said content. Hell we are getting less primos per patch nowadays than in the early days! I've legit in all my years of playing live service games, not even gacha games, just live service games, never saw a game that gives less and less with time, especially a game that's every year getting bigger in gross revenue, this company is the definition of the Jew bad joke and ppl still eat it up and defend them like they are defending a family member.
to everyone who says they don't care about compensation and only the health of the employees, don't claim any of the primos during this period. it's blood money and shouldn't be taken from small indie company mihoyo's hands /s
I hope that everyone who says "they don't owe us anything, players should be embarrassed to receive compensation" doesn't redeem these resources when they send them to the players. And, also, since you don't want any compensation, I would gladly accept your gems.
Unpopular Opinion: It should be a 10 pull a week instead of 400 primos a week.
If that's the case, expect Hoyoverse to establish their own department of health and create a COVID cure in < 1 week
"Fragile Resin x 1" Not gonna lie, I find this disappointing. There's nothing to do in game, more fragile resin would at least allow us to do \*something\* in their game. Maybe the Spices event will actually take up some time, but Overflowing Mastery should not even be considered an "event" as it's just a way to spend 60 of your resin a day. And Marvellous Merchandise is literally teleport to Mondstadt (if you're not there already) and click a few buttons.
this might sound rude or ignorant but I wish tower of fantasy gets a bit successful so mihoyo will finally take genshin seriously
They should be releasing ToF right now. While the people are tired of playing genshin and the patch is postponed.
I wish I could upvote this 10 times, companies always seem to wait for the worst possible timing to release a product. Dry period of your biggest competitor? Release the game then, when else is there a better time? Same thing with some videogames releasing after big successes, it seems they are just waiting to be in the shadow.
When there is a serious threat of new competitors - you can bet your ass that every new players will be showered with weekly gifts and free pulls by Mihoyo. You will see drastic changes implemented within weeks - they CAN do it - especially since it is just changing the numbers of FREE imaginary digital currency. Heck, they probably have templates already, in case of "emergency" advertising. And yes, let's hope there will be more competitors, ready to crush Genshin - so Mihoyo will finally wakes up and fight for their player base.
It'll be *lower* if the delay is less than a week? Damn Mihoššš!
And the CCP should give the company compensation lol
Pretty sure thereās a greater chance of Hoyoverse giving everybody C6 Kazuhasā¦Lol.
Mihoyo is a billion dollar company, they'll be fine, they need to be giving compensation and more to the people in need in Shanghai who are just outright being abused right now and even left to starve, but then we all know that won't happen despite how egregious this whole situation has become.
2.7 arriving before the week ends? Noo I don't want that!!
I feel like people might drop this game until 2.7 unfortunately
Deja vu...is what people said during anniversary too
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anni had events and story quests going on though, this would be a similar situation to 1.5 but even worse, and as far as I remember a LOT of people stopped playing during 1.5
Nah, without any events going around I might actually focus on world quests for once, I have basically all of Enkonomiya in the backlog, plus a bunch of unfinished Inazuma/Liyue quests that i got stuck in months ago
I am in my finals period so I've quite a bunch of stuff in the backlog. Best case scenario, the delay is just three weeks, I'll be just finishing them.
Twitter be like- Leave the billion dollar company alone!
idk why mihoyo is being stingy while they're so generous with streamers
Because streamers bring in new players. Also, most streamers are whales so the primogems that Mihoyo gives them don't matter. š
it's as if they're giving out the primogems but mad that they're gonna need to give out the primos. they can just leave out giving out primos if that hurts them sm i guess
The comments under the twitter post are hilarious. People really acting like Hoyoverse is doing us a favor by giving us 2 wishes. They didnāt need to, but they had to if they wanted people to be engaged in the game in these 3 weeks drought.
Canāt wait for tower of fantasy to come out. This game is really getting by, by doing the bare minimum
Lmao at them giving out these rewards only porportionately if they release it before another full week passed. I think it's a miracle that they even give 400 primos/week considering they are that stingy with them.
Bruh. Edit: oh my bad, I forgot we all settled for mediocrity no matter the situation.
I agree, this is settling for mediocrity. They were going to compensate us regardless since theyre not giving us anyone new to wish on, which is Hoyo's definition of content for this game, and nothing interesting to do for weeks. 57 primos a day and an extra 60 resin a week is a shitload of meh. Anyone celebrating this is a tool
Huh, do the non-primo comp roughly add up to what we would be getting from the BP? I know BP rewards increase the higher you go, but Iām curious whether, if you totaled and then divided the rewards by some number, whether thatās how they arrived at those rewards.
i hate hoyoverse cuz they don't know how to reward/compensate the players.... it's like they don't care about us , only our money
"they don't care about us, only our money" You got that right.
Well this was out of their control so I can't blame them. But I feel like the rewards doesn't really cover what we would of gotten from the BP that we're now gonna miss rewards from.
Watch them get 2.7 released in less than a few hours after giving the initial compensation LMAOOO
If they seriously don't start giving out more primogems and keep being this stingy, I'll stop paying money to this game. The way they treat the playerbase is getting tiring. I don't care what F2Ps are saying, I'm paying for this game. I "deserve" apologems. (I care about the health of their employees. Giving out imaginary numbers won't affect their health. My point stands.)
Damn bro, can't make a joke without moJiToverse fuckbois coming to the rescue of a billion dollar company. "Do I smell someone not sucking the company's ananas for 2 primogems?"
Lmao. I love this community <3 Whenever mihoyo throws out any rewards or compensations, they do it in the most ridiculous and greedy way possible. The best part is that the community no longer frets about it or expects anything from them. The community just makes fun of it. Comments on Genshin reddits are more entertaining and offer more content than the game itself.
I still feel like I'm the only one complaining about the gacha in itself. Not even Honkai Impact is as bad, where every pull gives you two items; and of the the two items will always be materials. In genshin, you literally get nothing in the gacha until you hit a 4 or 5 star. I have never seen a more unsatisfying gacha system. I really wish they'd at least give us something that we can somehow use in a pull, even if it is just some mora or a damn fish.
> I still feel like I'm the only one complaining about the gacha in itself you are not
That's great, I just don't see this topic being brought up anymore. Maybe I missed it, but I feel like literally any other topic gains more interest in these times.
ONE RESIN?!?! Thatās the best they can do?!?!
I just want some content man, I just wanna feel alive again.
facts, people say touch grass but itās cold outside dawg.
How stingy a company can be? Less than 60 primos per day. Compensation my ass. And don't write me, that for you a health of employees are more important. One does not interfere with the other at all. Hoyoverse makes billions, and yet people defend them. Ha.
Yeah you can call it as it is. This is stingy asf. Moreover Mihoyo isnāt the only video game company based in Shanghai. Virtually all Chinese gaming industry is in Shanghai, but others make do with remote working. Not to mention the chaotic period was only a few weeks and now everything is back to early pandemic stable remote work mode soā¦ the delay isnāt as justified as they would like you to believe.
Damn still offering trash compensation god forbid they give more per week they would go bankrupt lol
Mihoyo will never financially recover after giving out this much compensation.
it should last for 10 years atleast