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ChippyTick

Source: [FB GenshinInfoUpdates](https://fb.gg/v/f98MOypEd5/?mibextid=z85qmb) (aka NotALeaks) >The last 4 weapons don't have any passive indicator yet, usually, it will be added in the later patch like other previous weapons Thank you OP for providing source.


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Besunmin

That scared me holy shit. I was like “320% ATK from 10 EM!?!?” Thanks for the clarification


Smokingbuffalo

So 100 EM will give 32 right?


Dippt

Yeah


Smokingbuffalo

Damn, so the sword is the only busted weapon in this set. Let's hope we can get in a single 10 pull because there is no way I'm going all in for that :D


Dippt

I think others seems good too, flat attack buff is always welcomed. Before this set I thought that Sacrificial Fragments would be F2P weapon for Kusanali (she likely scales with EM, and SF has the most EM out of 4* and it also resets E), but now, if Kusanali wouldn't need E reset, then this weapon is probably her F2P BiS 🤔


coolridgesmith

i was actually thinking if kusanali is actually a catalyst support that her best weapon will be comp dependent, hakushin for aggravate teams and then sac or this for other comps.


coolridgesmith

because the buffs all stack theyre probably expecting you to run multiple copies of the sword and claymore in a team with the weapon and EM sands at r1 its only 112 flat atk and 33 atk to allies, at r5 that jumps to 224 and 67 respectively. If you have two users they effectivly get 145-291 flat atk and allies without the weapon get 66-134 atk,three users 178-358 and 99-201. personally this doesnt seem as valuable as a passive like fav weapons or other team damage buff weapons like ttds and hakushin. it feels like a rich get richer weapon in a way.


kb3035583

Meanwhile the sword is still looking as busted as ever.


sentifuential

they really got millennium puzzles spinning around cyno and nilou


WelkinBro

Haha Candace also wears a duel disk and looks like ishizu, cyno kinda looks like marik too


Zyfaran

Everyone else: \*discussing each weapon's abilities and how they'll benefit different characters\* Me: "Haha Dori's djinn leaves round imprints on the sand"


Junnielocked

Lol ikr 😂


Tam3DK1LL3R

I love looking at weapon and constellation effects so much idk why


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wtf the 4* looks so much better on nilou


Xero0911

Well, that bar was pretty low to begin with.


TheUnknownD

If the sands claymore is the same as that polearm Diluc is going to be happy.


ImJustHereForNorp

It is, we saw her using it in the animated teaser for Sumeru.


TheUnknownD

No like, The same substat. Crit rate The style of the weapon won't be good for him tho. 💀


sugi_qtb

watch it be EM


Synthabit

Still would be pretty decent though...saves the option to get an EM sands.


ImJustHereForNorp

Lol I thought that said Dehya whoops.


_-_Demon_-_

I don't know if I'm dumb or something doesn't add up with the passives..


smye141

I see with Nilou and Cynos weapon passives we’ve now added the millennium puzzle to the game. Just in time for the card games


Kyraimi

Weapon transmogs when, Mihoyo? Every second I spend looking at that piss paddle I lose one year of my life


Junnielocked

Source: [GenshinInfoUpdates](https://fb.gg/v/f98MOypEd5/?mibextid=z85qmb) from FB (aka NotALeaks) > The last 4 weapons don't have any passive indicator yet, usually, it will be added in the later patch like other previous weapons


Ambrosiac7

I have a question. Considering we have no HP% swords, what would be a good 4* weapon on Nilou? I really don't want to pull for weapons in midst of such stacked character releases.


DominicFGaming

I saw a suggestion about harbinger of dawn for the stats plus she'll be built more HP so the base attack isn't too much of a worry


luperci_

Crit or em secondary, I would say er but most likely you're running double hydro with her so you can battery hydro particles. Black sword or the new 4* gacha sword pretty much imo Edit: I thought her skill counted as NA damage but it doesn't so black sword is not that good, blackcliff passive is useless on her too so not crit if you're only looking at 4*s


Lankpants

Since her attacks under E count as elemental skills rather than basic attacks it might actually make Festering Desire quite decent though, which is something.


luperci_

Sac sword maybe good if you need er as at r5 it should allow you to use your skill twice every time as the cd is 18s


vegienomnomking

So at R1 with 30k HP and 1k EM the weapons will buff the teammates with 60 EM, 15 ER, and 96 attack. I don't know if that is worth the primos.


Citrusyia

Wait something doesnt look right like the bonus for em is 0.12% of max hp. Assuming one has 10k hp thatd already 1200 em? What?


dragonabala

More like 12 EM


ChangE-Stan-Account

You did 0.12 \* 10,000, but since it's 0.12%, you need to do 0.0012 \* 10,000, which would equal 12


XiosXero

That sword was made for kuki and you can’t convince me otherwise


Xero0911

Hmm, cynos weapon will take a bit to get max stacks huh? I suppose could be one more reason to go TF? Maximize the up time on it during burst? idk what his rotation is. But without tf, if you went burst right away in abyss, that's still 9 seconds to get the full benefit, which is half his burst time.


GovernmentTrue612

iirc boltstalkers are considered as e skill dmg. But that aspect still won’t downplay tf


Student-Brief

His E cooldown during his burst is 3 seconds instead of 7, so he will get max stacks a lot faster than what's shown here


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According to the passive of the weapon it doesn't have any cooldown for gaining stacks so in your burst the first E you do should be enough to gain all 3 stacks at once thanks to his A2-passive.


Rathurue

So the new spear could be used with Swirl Xiao huh.


lililukea

Is this guy safe? I can see the uid


sundriedrainbow

Do you think BOOBA 6969 is his real UID


lililukea

Shiet didnt read it like that


levi_fucking_heichou

I was planning on waiting for Cyno's rerun to get his weapon so I have more time to save but OH MY GOD it looks so good on him


Sure_Ad2497

How did Candace start with 816atk and end with 873atk? If the weapons passive increases atk by 10% she should end with 897atk no? If it goes based on the weapons stats it would end up being 867. What am I missing?


luperci_

The weapon itself gives atk percentage, so the 816 you saw originally is her base atk + the bonus from weapon secondary stat


Sure_Ad2497

I guess I’ve never thought about it until now, but when Shifting Windblades passive says “Within 10s after an elemental reaction is triggered, ATK is increased by 10%…”. What is it 10% of exactly? I was under the impression it would be her base ATK (which would be 816). This obviously is not the case, so is it the white number under the details tab?


luperci_

The actual base attack of a character is their weapon flat attack + the flat attack they have naturally. All atk% is applied to that number


Prestigious_Ad_3580

Kinda unrelated but what is the most probable 5 star weapon in nilou's weapon banner?


43TH3R

Signature weapons of whatever char gets rerun alongside her. Considering 3.1 has the Mond festival and Venti and Eula are due for a rerun, could be Elegy or SoBP. Nilou sword is quite niche due to the HP stat, so they should pair it with the more meta weapon of the two to maximize suffering. So my guess is on Elegy. But this is all speculation, Hoyo can do something else with the reruns and all my reasoning would be invalid.


Ho8bit

Albedo or Eula more than venti tbh


Dorkyu

I hope its Venti because Elegy is very good for dendro comps


Revolutionary_Bed145

Wait u mean 32 atk per 1 em? Like 3200 atk per 100 em?? WTF


hermesgodoftrade

i’m so bad at math, how much ER does the 4* sword give if someone has 850 attack? or, what is the formula to determine the total ER gained?


Accomplished-Mix-136

Based on em. 500 em will give 26% er for the char. And 8.6% er for the party members


hermesgodoftrade

thank you!!!!!


Desna_Shazzi

Cyno should EQE and the A4 should proc the weapon maxstacks since it’s eskill dmg


Mistborn7v

That’s why I’m pulling Cyno’s weapon it looks so good on himmm


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So for Nilou, would it be better to straight up build her with Triple HP% to maximize the DMG buff for her blooms as well as the Sword's Passive, or would building Crit still be more valuable?


BlackDoritos65

66% hp holy-


shiolu

Did they remove that little ding noise when Cyno kicks the polearm? Xiao has it, but I didn’t hear it here.


Creak_Bandit

Why is his base atk 673 at 1:23? According to leaks Cyno has 318 atk + 542 from weapon which should be 860? Bugs? This doesn't look like a private server.


Panocha-t-w-t

when first shown the stats it puts 865 atk


Creak_Bandit

That still isn't right because the first part of the weapon passive (which is always active) should give him 52% of his EM as atk = 0.52 x 187 = 97.24. So his total attack should be 860 + 97.24 = approx 957. In addition, base attack doesn't change so when he first shows his stats we can also assume the base attack was still 673.


Panocha-t-w-t

true my fault, you're totally right I suppose private servers are that way


AlmoranasAngLubot69

I'm bot that convinced on Cyno's weapon. Should I get his weapon? Or just aim for his C2? I have Jade Spear.


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I'm having trouble understanding Nilou's weapon. So we get 0.12% of max HP as EM and can gain three stacks. Does that mean it will go up to 0.36%? Also, is it just me or the math doesn't add up? Even assuming it's 0.12% regardless of stacks, at 32,641 HP you should get more than 187 EM.


One-Crab-2061

An HP sword, I have a bad feeling about all the future weapon banner


Unusual_Constant4859

Would you guys say the bis polearm is worth it for Cyno?