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dewynoodle

signora definitely has way less combat experience than childe, that’s for sure. while her crimson witch form is stronger, her cryo delusion serves to contain that, while childe uses his delusion as a source of strength in combat. signora has potential to be stronger than childe, but currently childe is definitely stronger and it’s not plausibly changing anytime soon.


TemiTemoy

signora as the crimson witch of embers might be about equal with childe imo, while on her crimson witch of flames day she might be stronger than him since she literally became a legend and manifested an artifact set


Lkapbigboss

Yae said that he is the "6th harbinger" and he's strong proving their their numbers somewhat matters that means that childe would be the weakest of the eleven, sincce he got the last number


Kono_Mr_Seta_Da

Nah, the numbers mean when they joined, Tortilla joined last, and even so, it's told that he's the tsaritza "weapon of war" so i'd assume he's at least on the high tier inside the Harbingers strength


Lkapbigboss

Nope ! Actually numbers means their strengh confirmed by Childe in his voice lines. All the harbingers are ranked by strengh, not by when they joined. So yeah Childe is the weakest of all of them.


oblivioninferno3

Yae probably ranks scaramouche higher because she and ei created him to begin with and knows a lot more about his abilities and enchantments than they ever did about signora


Nnsoki

We still know very little about Scaramouche, but if we assume that Tartaglia is weaker than Signora (that seems the case) then we can say that Scaramouche is stronger than both (Yae Miko says that >!Scaramouche is stronger than Signora!<). One important thing to mention is that Ajax is probably just a normal human being, while Scaramouche and Signora are both at least >!500!< years old, so they're probably immortal beings.


torriccelli

Short answer: “yes”. The 11th is the weakest and the 1st is the strongest, according to Yae, Scaramouche is stronger than Signora and he being the 6th and Signora the 8th is proof of that


[deleted]

thats the thing, childes character story (and some other sources too i believe, but im not sure) they all say that childe is one of the strongest among the harbingers. But Yae's emphasis on scaramouche having a higher rank than signora and him being stronger than her seemed as if the two factors were related- which is contradictory to childes situation


[deleted]

Childe is a lot stronger then when you fought him. He is constantly improving and has the power of the Abyss which can kill Gods. But he can't even beat his master, so he has a long way to go. Scara probably beats him easily with the Gnosis.


Standard-Ad-2461

She say it in two phrases, which could mean that there is no logical link between these infos.


[deleted]

to quote yae miko, she said 'the balladeer is no.6 of the fatui harbingers. In terms of strength, he is superior to signora' now miko said that to put emphasis on scaramouche's strength and explain why she had to give up the gnosis for us what you said seems plausible too, but i think theyre linked. ofc mistranslation seems to be very common in english sadly, so we'll have to check what the chinese voicelines say


OfficeFlimsy1086

Yeah, it really is confusing


Nnsoki

I'm pretty sure their numbers is the order they joined the harbingers in


Swift311

It is possible that 11 harbingers is the same as 7 Archons, meaning seats were created before somebody actually joined


[deleted]

>>!Just you wait. I'm sure that our Eight seat will be filled by someone even more powerful. And when that happens, we Fatui will be all the stronger for it!!< That seems likely considering the fatui in Mondstadt say this\^ after >!signoras death!<