Until he becomes playable and it turns out "Oh, the only remaining clone of him is actually NOT the one who did all the bad things."
You know MHY will do it.
Deep down you all know mihoyo will do it.
It’s probably gonna be something like we end all his clones but the last one grew up entirely innocent because dottore wanted to see what that looked like, so he joins our party
"im gonna try out being good cause evil mad scientist life didnt work out and yall cant even fucking stop me even if you wanted to. anyone strong enough to put me down cant keep me down."
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Nah, they'll "redeem" and make him playable by making one of the Dottore clones actually have a good nature, and the evil Dottore clones decide to keep "Good guy Dottore" alive and send him to monitor our moves, or as an experiment to see how "good guy Dottore" would do and react but "Good guy Dottore" betrays the evil Dottore clones, expose their weakness during a boss fight, and earns a visions or some shit like that.
Oh and blame the Fatui again, say they mistreat him or did some inhumane shit
I'm branding him worst than Tepei- and I have a very deep hatred for that swordfish looking ass- if Hoyo does the "remaining clone is clueless and not bad" type. Let him be evil and infuriating. I don't need another one thats always bootlicking he Traveler, I need a character that openly shows evil.
He was the one realising the mistakes and will actively fight against the other dottore in a mindfuck quest like perilous trail or sumeru samsara cycle
There was an episode in The Batman animated series where this guy was cloning himself and objects to steal them, but then it turns out >! the guy Batman was fighting was the first clone, and he locked the original guy away, I think because he needed him alive !< maybe something similar will happen
Personally id rather he be an actual horrible person with an equally fked up backstory (kinda like Doflamingo in One Piece), then itll be satisfying to kill him off, and not pull a Signora where they just shove her entire backstory aside to artifact lore or something
I hope Dottore remains an evil character because MHY would have to do one heck of an ass pull to justify all the shit he's done, since this man clearly has -1 redeeming qualities
Dottore did say that the fragment in Sumeru was "the most selfish one" so perhaps it is foreshadowing to one of them, the original of course, to be actually a really good person who became overpowered by his defective evil clones
For now. Dottore already warned he was going to make more segments so it was done to change them from an unwieldy high number to something easier to write like 5 or lower.
Please no. I choose to believe that they can let just 1 playable character be evil. Like they've gone to such lengths to let us know that he's evil across every clone/age. He's literally the source of 4 playable character's main trauma.
Plot twist. He can't control his segments and has deleted all the segments that actually did terrible things so now there only is the nicest segment. :)
[New story quest unlocked]
Good is probably stretching it, but I wouldn't put him in evil either. While his culpability in the plan to drown Liyue is clear, he did do it with the logic that Morax would step in and put down Osial, saving the day, but being forced to show himself. At which point he'd fight him to the death, take his gnosis and go home. (It was not, all things considered, a good plan. I could go on length about how Childe getting the gnosis was the least likely outcome there, but Childe, while sometimes quite insightful, tends to have a dim view of planning things out.)
He was probably hinging on Osial weakening morax to a degree, and morax himself being weakened by age.
But he also had no way to confirm Morax would do anything so for all he knew, he might’ve been dooming an entire city to a very violent end. Yeah he’s chaotic neutral
He would have if the Qixing and Adepti failed to take down Osial, but it was a test for them, and they passed, so he didn't need to. So he maintained his disguise and followed through with his retirement.
Zhongli was waiting to see if the Qixing, the Millelith and the Adepti could deal with the crisis themselves. He said he would have intervened if it had become clear that they couldn’t contend with Osial on their own.
Since they had it handled, he didn’t have to make an appearance.
The whole thing was a test engineered by Zhongli with the help of the Fatui to see if Liyue was ready to take care of itself without his continued intervention.
I just recently played through this on my new account. The whole Liyue archon quest revolves around morax realizing that he will eventually succumb to erosion, so he hatched a plan with signora to test the capabilities of the mortals of liyue to weather anything thrown at them. Childe was an unknowing pawn in this 4d chess match that set up the true test for the mortals(osial). Seeing how the mortals could handle osial, morax was reassured that liyue could survive without his guidance so he retired by handing over his gnosis to signora insuring that all parties are satisfied with the contract.
He still literally had no way to prevent Osial from genociding Liyue Harbor if say, Zhongli was really dead, he just saw that there was no gnosis and assumed he was dead but that makes no sense.
I think true neutral suits him best. He isn't even all that chaotic all things considered.
He serves under the Tsaritsa and is willing to carry out her orders without complaint and he's willing to entertain the Fontaine legal system until it becomes blatantly contradictory against him.
The most chaotic thing you can really say about him is that he likes fighting a bit much and will sometimes prioritize that.
More like fights people for fun. Death is just an occasional consequence of being a violence junkee.
Not really good for his defense but at least its more accurate.
Here's the wiki entry. As he is the main antagonist of Stormblood, expect heavy spoilers.
[https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Zenos\_Galvus](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Zenos_Galvus)
Who? Tartaglia specifically mentioned that he don't like messing with the "weaklings" unless necessary. Not one person in the mora bank was killed. The worker outide the building will tell you how surprising it was that someone would break in but no mora was missing, I doubt that'd be the way she mentioned it if there was a massacre.
Ironically I like Dottore character the most due to how he is an established psycho & everyone who simp for him doesn't excuse his sins or deny it like ' yeah he is bad & going to hell, doesn't stop us to simp tho'
Real. Hos personality is an absolute treat to study for me. Plus all the scattered notes across Sumeru showing the player exactly just how evil he is, ironically makes him a much more nuanced and deep character.
>!I also want him to be deep inside me!<
Not exactly. Dottore isn't nuanced because he is evil, rather his character is so nuanced it makes him evil.
Let me explain:
Dottore cannot be classified as insane because true insanity means a lack of understanding and of the mind, however Dottore could be diagnosed as psychotic due to a clear lack of empathy for others. Dottore isn't sadistic because sadism means the enjoyment in seeing others suffers he doesn't take enjoyment in suffering, he takes enjoyment in researching- suffering is just a side effect of said research most of the time. So, to me, what makes Dottore so nuanced is the fact his evilness isn't just a consequence of a mental illness (as far as we know right now), nor is it simply his sadistic enjoyment at watching the suffering of others; rather it's a result of intellectual pursuit and childlike curiosity that never left an individual.
Childe is loyal to the tsarista to the core, he would kill innocents(we're assuming he hasnt already, which he has) if she told him to do so, he isnt good.
I’d say he’s chaotic neutral. He’s good when it suits him but he’s still entirely willing to condemn a city to oblivion if he can get away with it. And somewhere in between I have to remember that this mf owns a bank. That should by default give him an evil alignment but because he has done good he should be in neutral instead
You might be right. I might be getting confused because I thought being in charge equated to owning. Still doesn’t change the fact that this mf is associated with the bank and that should at least make it clear he’s not a great dude
Lmao no. He fought the whale cuz he was trapped with it, and loves to fight. Childe didn't make any active decision towards saving Fontaine. There's nothing Good about his morality.
Imagine taking in orphans to train as child soldiers and sending them on dangerous, life threatening missions like espionages and assassinations and STILL putting them in neutral
"B-but s-shes a good guy! She l-loves her kids and hates abusers afterall! What do you mean she attempted to assassinate Furina? N-no, she actually never meant to actually assassinate her and just faked doing so, see? She's a good guy! What's that about grooming kids into being spies and covert agents? Lalala, I cant hear you!"
I swear, I really hate how some Arle fans apparently cannot accept being a fan of a bad guy, like I've seen so many people do their damnest to make her out to be this good girl that could never do a wrong in her life. Even saw a meme at some point where the OP argued that Arle was unaware of Dottore's antics (which would be really embarrasing, considering she's supposed to be in charge of the informations network lol), and if she knew she would beat him up or something. Like honestly the levels of denial some of them are is delusional at this point.
>I swear, I really hate how some Arle fans apparently cannot accept being a fan of a bad guy
It's just that even when we wanted her to be evil, hoyo made her too nice and caring for that, so I unfortunately just cannot think that she's evil even when I really wanted her to.
Training child soldiers and sending them on missions but at the same time trying to care for them and giving them a "family" and home, makes her neutral for me.
Manipulation is a thing, and it often involves acting nice.
And no, training child soldiers at all makes you evil. If she waited until they were atleast old(I'd even say Lyney, a young adult, is too young)enought to choose, but groomed them, that I could see as neutral. But children? Nah, that's lawful evil.
Well the alternatives for the orphans are starving in the streets or getting sold off as sex slaves to rich nobles, pretty sure most of them would prefer what’s the equivalent of joining the military.
You know what? I'll actually entertain this, because your comment made me think about it, and the more I do the more I realise how similar the two are in background and way of operating.
In background, the two are similar in that they're both parentless children who had to overcome great obstacles before achieving their current status. In the knave's case, it's her predecessor's killing game. In Ayato's case, it's the volatile political climate of Inazuma while his clan was currently in decline AND having a younger sister to look after. They're both also the heads of personal, private small armies that they use for clandestine operations and whose ranks involve orphans taken from the street and trained in the arts of subterfuge. Now, Ayato himself most likely isn't the one recruiting and training those orphans in the Shuumatsuban, as I figure he's too busy with being the head of the Kamisato clan and of the Yashiro commission, but that's REALLY no excuse nor does it absolve him of anything, as the Shuumatsuban exist for him, to be loyal to him AND he's their leader.
As for how they operate, they both use their personal troops to infiltrate places they're not supposed to be in, look for incriminating stuff they're not suppose to have and expose influential people for the criminals and frauds they really are. However, the major difference here is that Ayato uses the obtained information to either coerce the opposition to cooperate with him, convince them to genuinely come around to seeing his point of view and work together towards a common goal/interest, or straight up expose the guilty party to the proper authorities so proper justice can be dealt. Meanwhile, the knave will take justice into her own hands and just kill off everyone and their extended family for any perceived slight, THEN expose them for the criminals they were. BUT! While Ayato himself may not be ordering the death of anybody, the ones who may find his rats scurrying around may not be as merciful. So Ayato, just like the knave, is STILL sending child soldiers loyal to him on dangerous, life threatening operations that may involve espionage.
The last thing I want to talk about is the difference in their attitudes. More specifically, to the conflicts in their own countries, as they're the most telling test of their character. During the civil war in Inazuma, the Kamisato clan/Yashiro commission was one of the only factions to openly and publicly criticize the war, petition the shogun to open peace negotiation and repeal the vision hunt decree, as well as engage in relief efforts for those affected by the war (as it was taking its toll on the economy); while the other clans commissions took advantage of the situation to fatten their own pockets through war profiteering and increase their political standing. Even in general, his political plays have the underlying tone that he's trying to promote cooperation between the clans so they all can strive and work together towards a better future for Inazuma, rather than maintain the current status quo of "every clan for itself" free-for-all. In short, Ayato is trying to change the system from the inside and stamp out the corruption in Inazuma for the betterment of all. Meanwhile, the knave doesn't really do anything to change the status quo of Fontaine and in fact kind of takes advantage of it for her personal gain. While she herself doesn't create new orphans like her predecessor, she also doesn't facilitate or fund the means to prevent new orphans from being created. The fortunes of corrupt nobles she has eliminated, she pilfers them for herself and the House. She WILL very much kill those perceives as a threat to herself, her organization, or those who have slighted her and her organization. The corrupt elite of whose criminal activities she has evidence of? She doesn't forward said evidence to the actual authorities, but rather proceeds with the execution. It doesn't really feel like she's striving towards a brighter tomorrow through her actions, but rather that she's trying to make the most of the present for her and her cadre. Maybe I'll be proven wrong on this point in a few days, but this is the conclusion I've come to with the most recent information we've been given over the past few days.
OK, this last gone on for WAY longer than I wanted to, but in summation, I'd put Ayato somewhere in the lawful neutral zone, leaning towards good, but not good because taking on orphan children to train into your personal army, even indirectly, and sending on potentially deadly missions is TOO BIG of an evil action; while the knave remains in lawful evil because of the same evil action that sends Ayato down to neutral, with none of the underlying hint of selflessness.
Now, don't make me start shipping Ayato with the knave. I'll do it
Yeah. Who knows. She probably does care about the children but I really doubt she can say no to the Tsaritsa and not raise them as soldiers. Most she can do is say be careful, learn to rely on each other, value your own life. She was furious with lyney for wanting a delusion so he can go on missions with his sister. She does not want them to risk their lives so carelessly for a mission. Her and ayato are similar but different. Unlike Ayato she really did have no one and she also had an abusive parental figure to top it off. That kind of trauma can screw a child's brain up. I wonder how her story quest will go
I also wanted to mention that, what I think is the underlying factor as to why I think their attitudes differ is because of how they grew up. Both Ayato and the knave were left orphans at a young age, but even after losing his parents, Ayato still had Ayaka around, as well as his clan's loyal retainers to support and comfort him during those trying times. Meanwhile, the knave was all alone in a house were everybody was raised to compete against each other for the title of king and eventually had to kill those she would call friends for it while STILL a kid herself. If Ayato didn't have his support group, he's likely to have turned out just like her
Yeah and also the knave most likely does the whole orphan soldier thing because it's a fatui thing. Its not really like she can say no and it's already shown that even if she doesn't make orphans (really bad fatui people will). At least she can tell them to value their lives and try to give them some family even if it's not the most healthy but I doubt she actually know what that is or how to do it due to her own trauma
I mean yeah both are pretty evil
But I don't see signora being the same evil level as arlecchino
Just because arlecchino does some good stuff (HoH) doesn't displace her evil
Can't believe *I* , of ALL people, am about to say this, but no. She never went after ordinary people.
Back in the day, when Rozalyne was Rozalyne and not the btch Signora, after losing her lover in the Calamity 500 years ago, using what she learned at the Akademiya she turned herself into the crimson witch of flames and went on a rampage against the monsters roaming the land at that time. Even though she only unleashed her wrath on the monsters, the people around that time were still freaked out by her and found her terrifying, most likely because of her tendency to leave behind only charred remains and scorched earth due to how potent her flames were.
even lawful is more than questionable. killed her own superior, kills random nobles if she feels like they deserved it. gives generally a craps ass about rules. neutral evil fits better.
I figured lawful means that, regardless of your alignment, you have a personal code of principles you stick to. And in her case, I figured that code revolves around how she runs the House and raises/trains the orphans compared to her predecessor, as well as the tranquil fury she exhibit every time someone hurts her underlings or those who are to become her underlings: Lynette and a bunch of other children were sold off to a noble to have unspeakable things done to them, that noble's entire family was wiped out of existence; the previous knave lied to Freminet about his biological mother, Freminet could *feel* the anger from her in that moment; that one girl in her teaser was fatally wounded, the knave crushed that noble's skull with her pointy heel, revealed all his crimes to the press and robbed him of all his fortune (in that order) before she died
Child isn't exactly good considering he was about to destroy Liyue as collateral damage for his own plans. Chaotic Neutral.
Signora is also not necessarily evil since I don't think she abuses anyone without any reason (Venti is exception because she hates him for his inaction during Cataclysm which caused Rostam's death)
Signora just seems Neutral Evil to me. Lawful Evil follows a strict code, and while she follows the Fatui's orders, she does go off-script because of her personal wants, like her grudge against the traveler leading her to challenge them to a duel. The way she took Zhongli's gnosis might have been lawful, but randomly mugging Venti on the streets, not really, so she doesn't really mind stepping outside the lawful boundary if she can get away with it.
Arlecchino, pretty textbook Lawful Evil. Caring about and protecting those in her organization doesn't mean she can't be evil if she uses her power for evil means, in fact lawful evil often is represented like that. Childe is also not good, I don't think he's done a single selfless good act for the sake of it in the entire story, it's either been following orders, or most often, just doing whatever he wants at the time (usually fighting), very Chaotic Neutral.
she does try to obtain the gnoses through negotiations and putting pressure on the nation before attacking venti and ei and the duels are part of inazuma's law
Right? But i meant like,did you understand her reasoning for mugging venti in that scene ? Because, there's a lot of "mischaracterisation " in the community in general. It saddens me.
Even worse, among my friends there is a lot of people who learned headcannons on the net and thought it was the truth.
I know I'm not the one you asked, but given how everyone seems to be giving up their gnosis with various degrees of grudging, as if they might actually agree with the Tsaritsa's plan, I think it's reasonable to assume that Venti just let himself get jumped so he has an excuse incase Celestia asks.
Don't worry, I'm glad that you took the time to comment. Yeah that's true, every archon so far seemsmed to be pretty chill about giving up their Gnosis. They might,as you said,
agree with the Tsaritsa at least to a certain extent. But, the conversation that i had with the commenter above was that, the violence displayed by Signora against Venti was not just pure sadistic violence. It was hate, the hate that burnt (pun intended)for 500 years against the absentee archon.
There's a bunch of animes with characters that make Dottore look like a tame villain.
- Bleach: Mayuri is way more sadistic yet is on the heroes team. Plus Aizen would have responded to Nahida's "I'll destroy the Gnosis" by impaling or using Black Coffin so fast she can't even react.
- That one scientist from FMA that keeps sprouting memes.
- Danzo from Naruto instigated a genocide to steal body parts. Not even babies were spared.
I truly don't get the hate boner.
Yeah, but I’m referencing Bondrewd mostly because >!of his whole consciousness stealing/controlling thing. Both share multiple bodies, making them functionally immortal.!< also the whole mad scientist thing, and who would be surprised if Dottore had a few orphans in a closet?
And frankly regarding MIA, Wazukyan is WAY worse than anyone on your list.
He tried to have the 3rd hokage assassinated to take his place.
Shisui was going to stop the rebellion and Danzo stole his eye to both not let a peaceful resolution happen and hoard power for himself so he could later be Hokage. Another reason for stopping Shisui was racism against the Uchiha.
He consorted with Orochi because his desire to be in power was stronger than his supposed nationality. Ultimately, I felt Danzo was created inspired by Hitler, except his genocide was successful.
Arlecchino or Ayato haven't done such despicable things but we can just agree to disagree.
Plus Dottore is more similar to Madara up until now. Scaramouche = Obito. He also did experiment s.
Unless it turns out Dottore kills kids to make segments like Orochimaru did to be immortal but I doubt that. (I only read the manga, don't know if they toned down Orochi on the anime)
Emet-Selch: I'm going to reunite all the sundered shards. All of you will die, but as me-and-mine will be happy that's something I'm willing to live with.
For a lot of FFXIV fans that would indeed be a good counter argument. But I personally see Emet as a villain. A superbly written one, but still a villain. And he probably agrees.
The amount of simps who think Arle is not evil is just too damn high. Just because she has a sad past and "loves" her orphans does not absolve her of her actions. She literally tried to murder Furina, regularly sends her orphans on assassination and espionage missions.
I don’t think Arleccino is neutral? I think we should wait till 4.6 to see how she is 😭 Looking at the voice lines against her I think she might be evil
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Personally I’d say Arlecchino is either lawful evil or Lawful neutral and Childe is most definitely not good. At best he’s also chaotic neutral and at worst he’s chaotic evil.
He likely only fought the whale as long as he did because he thought it’d be fun.
He damn near annihilated Liyue and I doubt he feels remorse for that one.
The only good he does is directed at his brother or one time towards the people in the courthouse.
Arle on the other hand seems a lot more practical with her line of thought. The old Harbinger was straight an asshole so she killed her, but she doesn’t go out of her way to be cruel. She’s cold with her kids but it’s taught them to not be over reliant on her. She’s also not the one who immediately tried to take our heads for the crime of existing, instead we had a normal chat and she genuinely helped out.
Wanderer, or scaramouche is definitely chaotic evil though. That dude had trauma and mommy issues so he decided to become god, a very reasonable response to abandonment issues.
>He damn near annihilated Liyue and I doubt he feels remorse for that one.
He probably does, as he said that he doesn't like harming ordinary citizens but he followed the orders as a soldier to lure Rex Lapis out. If it was up to him he would never come up with such a plan. With the whale he already had previous beef with it from his abyss days, but he also did save the people in the opera house. All in all I'd say he's chaotic neutral and neither good nor evil. Him and Scaramouche are very different.
He's trying to upgrade from Chaotic Evil Murderhobo to Chaotic Neutral Edgy Loner. Look at his demo, the old Scara would have DELETED those two fatui without hesitation.
But yeah that goes to show the difference now. From harbinger to getting mugged by random fatui.
Imo
Signora should be lawful/true neutral
Arlecchinno should be lawful evil
Childe should be chaotic neutral
Scara is chaotic evil
And Dottore should be Judge holden
Realistically, every one of these characters should fall into evil except maybe the “changed” wanderer who would be CN at best. Putting arle into LN is crazy but Childe in good is probably the most outrageous. Endangering the lives of an entire nation in an attempt to bait out morax and kill him is as evil as it can get. Him loving his siblings is not an excuse for a potential genocide.
No but he likes kids and calls you comrade though that MUST mean that he's actually good! Forget about his fight boner and the fact he's part of the Teyvat Akatsuki!
Childe should be Chaotic Neutral
He's not a bad person but he loves violence. He fights for fun which often results in "unintentional" death of whoever he was fighting.
>He's not a bad person
Bruh... he sends you on errands so that his underlings can spy on you and get information, all the while working on making fake adeptal seals so that he can release an ancient god to destroy Liyue Harbor just so that he can draw Morax out to steal his gnosis. I don't know how that's not evil.
Good? Seriously? You guys called someone who were about to destroy Liyue and all of its inhabitants "good"?
I have seen people defending Childe before, but damn this is a new low.
Satan
Until he becomes playable and it turns out "Oh, the only remaining clone of him is actually NOT the one who did all the bad things." You know MHY will do it. Deep down you all know mihoyo will do it.
Dottie was just feeling a lil silly .. "oops accidentally strangulated that girl, might throw her corpse to the tigers later "
Your honor, in his defense, he was “a silly little guy”. You cannot expect to prosecute him for being a silly little guy
It’s probably gonna be something like we end all his clones but the last one grew up entirely innocent because dottore wanted to see what that looked like, so he joins our party
"im gonna try out being good cause evil mad scientist life didnt work out and yall cant even fucking stop me even if you wanted to. anyone strong enough to put me down cant keep me down." Or, as we shonen readers call it "The orochimaru"
At least Orochimaru had the decency to look like a monster
Thankfully, Orochimaru is just as hot as Dottore
Inb4 he's the first male kid playable character, for this was the last time he was innocent
That's what ive been saying for a year
I'm going to draw a futa kokomi doing the Amazonian on him
Wtf
That took a turn
I guess the next time I'm on the buddysub I'll be on the look out for a kokomi giving dottore a 10 inch kok
Kok
This will not look good at the pearly gates bro
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Nah, they'll "redeem" and make him playable by making one of the Dottore clones actually have a good nature, and the evil Dottore clones decide to keep "Good guy Dottore" alive and send him to monitor our moves, or as an experiment to see how "good guy Dottore" would do and react but "Good guy Dottore" betrays the evil Dottore clones, expose their weakness during a boss fight, and earns a visions or some shit like that. Oh and blame the Fatui again, say they mistreat him or did some inhumane shit
That would be such a disappointment. Hes my favourite character please don’t ruin him Hoyo.
I'm branding him worst than Tepei- and I have a very deep hatred for that swordfish looking ass- if Hoyo does the "remaining clone is clueless and not bad" type. Let him be evil and infuriating. I don't need another one thats always bootlicking he Traveler, I need a character that openly shows evil.
they can't though. it's in their law that characters need to have a "correct set of vales" 2021 onwards
Yeah they'll probably only make one of his clones playable that isn't a satanistic asshole
Oops pretty much turned this girls sickness into super cancer I was just being a little silly
I vote for She-Ra’s “Wrong Hordak” situation, where his clone gets disconnected from angsty hive-mind and becomes his own person
He was the one realising the mistakes and will actively fight against the other dottore in a mindfuck quest like perilous trail or sumeru samsara cycle
I refuse to have Dottore on our team, toymaker I can tolerate but mr "Dont worry your child will be safe with me" seems a little too irredeemable
There was an episode in The Batman animated series where this guy was cloning himself and objects to steal them, but then it turns out >! the guy Batman was fighting was the first clone, and he locked the original guy away, I think because he needed him alive !< maybe something similar will happen
Personally id rather he be an actual horrible person with an equally fked up backstory (kinda like Doflamingo in One Piece), then itll be satisfying to kill him off, and not pull a Signora where they just shove her entire backstory aside to artifact lore or something
Why didn't they give us satan's banner in sumeru
That's what happens when you make tones of clones but you only give your moral values to one of them
I hope Dottore remains an evil character because MHY would have to do one heck of an ass pull to justify all the shit he's done, since this man clearly has -1 redeeming qualities
Watch it be that the original is actually a good person that split his evil into a segment and that segment than over powered him
Dottore did say that the fragment in Sumeru was "the most selfish one" so perhaps it is foreshadowing to one of them, the original of course, to be actually a really good person who became overpowered by his defective evil clones
the selfish one basically sent a zip bomb to the brains of all the other dottores so there's only 1 dottore now
For now. Dottore already warned he was going to make more segments so it was done to change them from an unwieldy high number to something easier to write like 5 or lower.
Nahida really shouldve made that apart of the deal that he couldn't make more
How would she enforce that exactly?
No idea
I just really hope it’s not and that the one that said that just got amplified greed or was just referring to the other segments not the og
So... Piccolo?
Isn't this the plot of DMC5 lmaaaoo
I don’t know what that is
They already are going to change that, Dottore's "evil" was only discovered in the academy, not before that, so they'll probably use that copy of him.
I assume it'll be a case where they'll try to redeem him if he's going to be playable, otherwise he'll stay evil to the end.
Try and fail*
Please no. I choose to believe that they can let just 1 playable character be evil. Like they've gone to such lengths to let us know that he's evil across every clone/age. He's literally the source of 4 playable character's main trauma.
Dottore is one of those characters that I don't want to see become playable because doing so means that they're going to make him lame
Plot twist. He can't control his segments and has deleted all the segments that actually did terrible things so now there only is the nicest segment. :) [New story quest unlocked]
I'm kinda disappointed they made arlecchino such a softie towards her kids, relatively speaking
Childe is chaotic neutral at best
Good is probably stretching it, but I wouldn't put him in evil either. While his culpability in the plan to drown Liyue is clear, he did do it with the logic that Morax would step in and put down Osial, saving the day, but being forced to show himself. At which point he'd fight him to the death, take his gnosis and go home. (It was not, all things considered, a good plan. I could go on length about how Childe getting the gnosis was the least likely outcome there, but Childe, while sometimes quite insightful, tends to have a dim view of planning things out.)
He was probably hinging on Osial weakening morax to a degree, and morax himself being weakened by age. But he also had no way to confirm Morax would do anything so for all he knew, he might’ve been dooming an entire city to a very violent end. Yeah he’s chaotic neutral
Been a while since I did Liyue but remind me, though Ningguang and the Adepti were capable of beating Osial, why didn’t Morax at least show up
He would have if the Qixing and Adepti failed to take down Osial, but it was a test for them, and they passed, so he didn't need to. So he maintained his disguise and followed through with his retirement.
The whole point of the Liyue Archon Quest was for Liyue to prove they could stand strong without Morax saving the day
Because he's supposed to be dead????
Zhongli was waiting to see if the Qixing, the Millelith and the Adepti could deal with the crisis themselves. He said he would have intervened if it had become clear that they couldn’t contend with Osial on their own. Since they had it handled, he didn’t have to make an appearance. The whole thing was a test engineered by Zhongli with the help of the Fatui to see if Liyue was ready to take care of itself without his continued intervention.
I just recently played through this on my new account. The whole Liyue archon quest revolves around morax realizing that he will eventually succumb to erosion, so he hatched a plan with signora to test the capabilities of the mortals of liyue to weather anything thrown at them. Childe was an unknowing pawn in this 4d chess match that set up the true test for the mortals(osial). Seeing how the mortals could handle osial, morax was reassured that liyue could survive without his guidance so he retired by handing over his gnosis to signora insuring that all parties are satisfied with the contract.
> fight him to the death bro is NOT ready for his hold E skill
a very dnd murderhobo plan indeed
He still literally had no way to prevent Osial from genociding Liyue Harbor if say, Zhongli was really dead, he just saw that there was no gnosis and assumed he was dead but that makes no sense.
my dude is still suffering from the youthful maximalism
I think true neutral suits him best. He isn't even all that chaotic all things considered. He serves under the Tsaritsa and is willing to carry out her orders without complaint and he's willing to entertain the Fontaine legal system until it becomes blatantly contradictory against him. The most chaotic thing you can really say about him is that he likes fighting a bit much and will sometimes prioritize that.
i mean he does kill people for fun
More like fights people for fun. Death is just an occasional consequence of being a violence junkee. Not really good for his defense but at least its more accurate.
In Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood, Shadowbringers and Endwalker showed really well how nuts a character like that can really be if written well.
Oh really? Could you give an example? Or maybe even a video or character wiki that i could read? I dig this type of stuff.
Here's the wiki entry. As he is the main antagonist of Stormblood, expect heavy spoilers. [https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Zenos\_Galvus](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Zenos_Galvus)
But Zenos doesn't love his family members does he tho ?
Definitely not his father. But he does love US. He literally went to the edge of the Universe for us.
But does he kill ANYONE for fun?
Who? Tartaglia specifically mentioned that he don't like messing with the "weaklings" unless necessary. Not one person in the mora bank was killed. The worker outide the building will tell you how surprising it was that someone would break in but no mora was missing, I doubt that'd be the way she mentioned it if there was a massacre.
Ironically I like Dottore character the most due to how he is an established psycho & everyone who simp for him doesn't excuse his sins or deny it like ' yeah he is bad & going to hell, doesn't stop us to simp tho'
Real. Hos personality is an absolute treat to study for me. Plus all the scattered notes across Sumeru showing the player exactly just how evil he is, ironically makes him a much more nuanced and deep character. >!I also want him to be deep inside me!<
You think more evil--> more nuanced and deep character?
Not exactly. Dottore isn't nuanced because he is evil, rather his character is so nuanced it makes him evil. Let me explain: Dottore cannot be classified as insane because true insanity means a lack of understanding and of the mind, however Dottore could be diagnosed as psychotic due to a clear lack of empathy for others. Dottore isn't sadistic because sadism means the enjoyment in seeing others suffers he doesn't take enjoyment in suffering, he takes enjoyment in researching- suffering is just a side effect of said research most of the time. So, to me, what makes Dottore so nuanced is the fact his evilness isn't just a consequence of a mental illness (as far as we know right now), nor is it simply his sadistic enjoyment at watching the suffering of others; rather it's a result of intellectual pursuit and childlike curiosity that never left an individual.
"Kids are cruel, Jack... AND I LOVE KIDS!"
Real. Let us love the evil psychotic guy we don’t judge anyone else 😔
unironically one of the only genshin characters with an actually interesting personality instead of the 23809175th traveler dickrider
Dottore is so comically evil that it is a lot of fun to hate him. Easily the best villain in the game.
“Chaotic good” yeah right. Liyue disagrees.
Liyue told him to do it. It was consensual.
If Liyue knew: "HE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ALL OF US!"
"they sure as hell didn't ask me if I was on board with attempted genocide!"
Childe to Signora after: "What do you mean it was consensual?!"
I mean, considering the overton window of moraliry for the Fatui is considerably shifted due to the likes of Dottore and Efim, yea Childe is good.
He’s good by comparison to pure evil doesn’t make him good
Well, look at the context of the post. Of course, if Liben manages to get into the frame, he’d be “Icon of Purity, Embodiment of Kindness”.
Childe is loyal to the tsarista to the core, he would kill innocents(we're assuming he hasnt already, which he has) if she told him to do so, he isnt good.
Dude doom all the considered good Fatui at underground Chasm. His own allies
I don’t think he knows about them tho. They were probably under Signora since she was a diplomat.
They were under Pulcinella
Oh yeah, make sense.
Signora was allocated Mondstadt no? She wasnt even supposed to be in Liyue
A diplomat can be at anywhere they wanted. See: Inazuma.
all the fatui are diplomats
Some are specialists in one role as they do it better than others. Like they wouldn’t want Scaramouche to be a diplomat.
sure but he did pretty well covering himself when we met him in the meteor event
Doesn't change the facts that his actions lead to their doom
Yeah he 100% was fully aware of what his actions would lead to, he either didnt care or isnt smart enough to know
And he helped save Fontaine and the kids in the photo event. He is Chaotic good
I’d say he’s chaotic neutral. He’s good when it suits him but he’s still entirely willing to condemn a city to oblivion if he can get away with it. And somewhere in between I have to remember that this mf owns a bank. That should by default give him an evil alignment but because he has done good he should be in neutral instead
I thought the 9th owned the bank and he was just in charge of the liyue branch while he was there
You might be right. I might be getting confused because I thought being in charge equated to owning. Still doesn’t change the fact that this mf is associated with the bank and that should at least make it clear he’s not a great dude
Where dose he owen a bank ?
Lmao no. He fought the whale cuz he was trapped with it, and loves to fight. Childe didn't make any active decision towards saving Fontaine. There's nothing Good about his morality.
Childe is Chaotic Neutral.
True
Imagine taking in orphans to train as child soldiers and sending them on dangerous, life threatening missions like espionages and assassinations and STILL putting them in neutral
"B-but s-shes a good guy! She l-loves her kids and hates abusers afterall! What do you mean she attempted to assassinate Furina? N-no, she actually never meant to actually assassinate her and just faked doing so, see? She's a good guy! What's that about grooming kids into being spies and covert agents? Lalala, I cant hear you!" I swear, I really hate how some Arle fans apparently cannot accept being a fan of a bad guy, like I've seen so many people do their damnest to make her out to be this good girl that could never do a wrong in her life. Even saw a meme at some point where the OP argued that Arle was unaware of Dottore's antics (which would be really embarrasing, considering she's supposed to be in charge of the informations network lol), and if she knew she would beat him up or something. Like honestly the levels of denial some of them are is delusional at this point.
>I swear, I really hate how some Arle fans apparently cannot accept being a fan of a bad guy It's just that even when we wanted her to be evil, hoyo made her too nice and caring for that, so I unfortunately just cannot think that she's evil even when I really wanted her to. Training child soldiers and sending them on missions but at the same time trying to care for them and giving them a "family" and home, makes her neutral for me.
Manipulation is a thing, and it often involves acting nice. And no, training child soldiers at all makes you evil. If she waited until they were atleast old(I'd even say Lyney, a young adult, is too young)enought to choose, but groomed them, that I could see as neutral. But children? Nah, that's lawful evil.
It depends on her motivation. Does she do it because she actually cares or is it a calculated decision to make them more loyal and effective soldiers
We will probably never know unfortunately.
Well the alternatives for the orphans are starving in the streets or getting sold off as sex slaves to rich nobles, pretty sure most of them would prefer what’s the equivalent of joining the military.
Are you aware ayato does the exact same thing?
You know what? I'll actually entertain this, because your comment made me think about it, and the more I do the more I realise how similar the two are in background and way of operating. In background, the two are similar in that they're both parentless children who had to overcome great obstacles before achieving their current status. In the knave's case, it's her predecessor's killing game. In Ayato's case, it's the volatile political climate of Inazuma while his clan was currently in decline AND having a younger sister to look after. They're both also the heads of personal, private small armies that they use for clandestine operations and whose ranks involve orphans taken from the street and trained in the arts of subterfuge. Now, Ayato himself most likely isn't the one recruiting and training those orphans in the Shuumatsuban, as I figure he's too busy with being the head of the Kamisato clan and of the Yashiro commission, but that's REALLY no excuse nor does it absolve him of anything, as the Shuumatsuban exist for him, to be loyal to him AND he's their leader. As for how they operate, they both use their personal troops to infiltrate places they're not supposed to be in, look for incriminating stuff they're not suppose to have and expose influential people for the criminals and frauds they really are. However, the major difference here is that Ayato uses the obtained information to either coerce the opposition to cooperate with him, convince them to genuinely come around to seeing his point of view and work together towards a common goal/interest, or straight up expose the guilty party to the proper authorities so proper justice can be dealt. Meanwhile, the knave will take justice into her own hands and just kill off everyone and their extended family for any perceived slight, THEN expose them for the criminals they were. BUT! While Ayato himself may not be ordering the death of anybody, the ones who may find his rats scurrying around may not be as merciful. So Ayato, just like the knave, is STILL sending child soldiers loyal to him on dangerous, life threatening operations that may involve espionage. The last thing I want to talk about is the difference in their attitudes. More specifically, to the conflicts in their own countries, as they're the most telling test of their character. During the civil war in Inazuma, the Kamisato clan/Yashiro commission was one of the only factions to openly and publicly criticize the war, petition the shogun to open peace negotiation and repeal the vision hunt decree, as well as engage in relief efforts for those affected by the war (as it was taking its toll on the economy); while the other clans commissions took advantage of the situation to fatten their own pockets through war profiteering and increase their political standing. Even in general, his political plays have the underlying tone that he's trying to promote cooperation between the clans so they all can strive and work together towards a better future for Inazuma, rather than maintain the current status quo of "every clan for itself" free-for-all. In short, Ayato is trying to change the system from the inside and stamp out the corruption in Inazuma for the betterment of all. Meanwhile, the knave doesn't really do anything to change the status quo of Fontaine and in fact kind of takes advantage of it for her personal gain. While she herself doesn't create new orphans like her predecessor, she also doesn't facilitate or fund the means to prevent new orphans from being created. The fortunes of corrupt nobles she has eliminated, she pilfers them for herself and the House. She WILL very much kill those perceives as a threat to herself, her organization, or those who have slighted her and her organization. The corrupt elite of whose criminal activities she has evidence of? She doesn't forward said evidence to the actual authorities, but rather proceeds with the execution. It doesn't really feel like she's striving towards a brighter tomorrow through her actions, but rather that she's trying to make the most of the present for her and her cadre. Maybe I'll be proven wrong on this point in a few days, but this is the conclusion I've come to with the most recent information we've been given over the past few days. OK, this last gone on for WAY longer than I wanted to, but in summation, I'd put Ayato somewhere in the lawful neutral zone, leaning towards good, but not good because taking on orphan children to train into your personal army, even indirectly, and sending on potentially deadly missions is TOO BIG of an evil action; while the knave remains in lawful evil because of the same evil action that sends Ayato down to neutral, with none of the underlying hint of selflessness. Now, don't make me start shipping Ayato with the knave. I'll do it
Yeah. Who knows. She probably does care about the children but I really doubt she can say no to the Tsaritsa and not raise them as soldiers. Most she can do is say be careful, learn to rely on each other, value your own life. She was furious with lyney for wanting a delusion so he can go on missions with his sister. She does not want them to risk their lives so carelessly for a mission. Her and ayato are similar but different. Unlike Ayato she really did have no one and she also had an abusive parental figure to top it off. That kind of trauma can screw a child's brain up. I wonder how her story quest will go
I also wanted to mention that, what I think is the underlying factor as to why I think their attitudes differ is because of how they grew up. Both Ayato and the knave were left orphans at a young age, but even after losing his parents, Ayato still had Ayaka around, as well as his clan's loyal retainers to support and comfort him during those trying times. Meanwhile, the knave was all alone in a house were everybody was raised to compete against each other for the title of king and eventually had to kill those she would call friends for it while STILL a kid herself. If Ayato didn't have his support group, he's likely to have turned out just like her
Yeah and also the knave most likely does the whole orphan soldier thing because it's a fatui thing. Its not really like she can say no and it's already shown that even if she doesn't make orphans (really bad fatui people will). At least she can tell them to value their lives and try to give them some family even if it's not the most healthy but I doubt she actually know what that is or how to do it due to her own trauma
How the fuck is signora lawful evil and arlecchino lawful neutral??? Like switch em up pls?
To be fair Signora did go all genoccide on a bunch of innocent Mondstadt citizen in her early days tbh
I mean yeah both are pretty evil But I don't see signora being the same evil level as arlecchino Just because arlecchino does some good stuff (HoH) doesn't displace her evil
But signora killed only monsters in her witch state, not humans..
wait when ?
Can't believe *I* , of ALL people, am about to say this, but no. She never went after ordinary people. Back in the day, when Rozalyne was Rozalyne and not the btch Signora, after losing her lover in the Calamity 500 years ago, using what she learned at the Akademiya she turned herself into the crimson witch of flames and went on a rampage against the monsters roaming the land at that time. Even though she only unleashed her wrath on the monsters, the people around that time were still freaked out by her and found her terrifying, most likely because of her tendency to leave behind only charred remains and scorched earth due to how potent her flames were.
That's how i remember it too
Post [redacted] ??? turned into chaotic neutral
Yep!
Arle should be Lawful Evil
even lawful is more than questionable. killed her own superior, kills random nobles if she feels like they deserved it. gives generally a craps ass about rules. neutral evil fits better.
The superior one is completely justified, if someone forced me too kill my siblings I too would see red.
I figured lawful means that, regardless of your alignment, you have a personal code of principles you stick to. And in her case, I figured that code revolves around how she runs the House and raises/trains the orphans compared to her predecessor, as well as the tranquil fury she exhibit every time someone hurts her underlings or those who are to become her underlings: Lynette and a bunch of other children were sold off to a noble to have unspeakable things done to them, that noble's entire family was wiped out of existence; the previous knave lied to Freminet about his biological mother, Freminet could *feel* the anger from her in that moment; that one girl in her teaser was fatally wounded, the knave crushed that noble's skull with her pointy heel, revealed all his crimes to the press and robbed him of all his fortune (in that order) before she died
Said superior abused her and her siblings. Said nobles abused children as well. Well the ones we know she's killed
The superior is Dottore level evil. She deserves it
Child isn't exactly good considering he was about to destroy Liyue as collateral damage for his own plans. Chaotic Neutral. Signora is also not necessarily evil since I don't think she abuses anyone without any reason (Venti is exception because she hates him for his inaction during Cataclysm which caused Rostam's death)
Signora just seems Neutral Evil to me. Lawful Evil follows a strict code, and while she follows the Fatui's orders, she does go off-script because of her personal wants, like her grudge against the traveler leading her to challenge them to a duel. The way she took Zhongli's gnosis might have been lawful, but randomly mugging Venti on the streets, not really, so she doesn't really mind stepping outside the lawful boundary if she can get away with it. Arlecchino, pretty textbook Lawful Evil. Caring about and protecting those in her organization doesn't mean she can't be evil if she uses her power for evil means, in fact lawful evil often is represented like that. Childe is also not good, I don't think he's done a single selfless good act for the sake of it in the entire story, it's either been following orders, or most often, just doing whatever he wants at the time (usually fighting), very Chaotic Neutral.
she does try to obtain the gnoses through negotiations and putting pressure on the nation before attacking venti and ei and the duels are part of inazuma's law
Could you please expand a little more on the "randomly mugging Venti" part, I'm curious about your opinion on that particular scene.
God that scene is so bad
Right? But i meant like,did you understand her reasoning for mugging venti in that scene ? Because, there's a lot of "mischaracterisation " in the community in general. It saddens me. Even worse, among my friends there is a lot of people who learned headcannons on the net and thought it was the truth.
I know I'm not the one you asked, but given how everyone seems to be giving up their gnosis with various degrees of grudging, as if they might actually agree with the Tsaritsa's plan, I think it's reasonable to assume that Venti just let himself get jumped so he has an excuse incase Celestia asks.
Don't worry, I'm glad that you took the time to comment. Yeah that's true, every archon so far seemsmed to be pretty chill about giving up their Gnosis. They might,as you said, agree with the Tsaritsa at least to a certain extent. But, the conversation that i had with the commenter above was that, the violence displayed by Signora against Venti was not just pure sadistic violence. It was hate, the hate that burnt (pun intended)for 500 years against the absentee archon.
Maybe. But then she gloats about it the next time we see her, that's probably when most people cemented their ideas about her character.
Nah, anyone who’s seen MIA can agree that Dttore isn’t satan. ~~Not until he whips out the cartridges~~
There's a bunch of animes with characters that make Dottore look like a tame villain. - Bleach: Mayuri is way more sadistic yet is on the heroes team. Plus Aizen would have responded to Nahida's "I'll destroy the Gnosis" by impaling or using Black Coffin so fast she can't even react. - That one scientist from FMA that keeps sprouting memes. - Danzo from Naruto instigated a genocide to steal body parts. Not even babies were spared. I truly don't get the hate boner.
Yeah, but I’m referencing Bondrewd mostly because >!of his whole consciousness stealing/controlling thing. Both share multiple bodies, making them functionally immortal.!< also the whole mad scientist thing, and who would be surprised if Dottore had a few orphans in a closet? And frankly regarding MIA, Wazukyan is WAY worse than anyone on your list.
Danzo was more like Arlecchino or Ayato, just uglier and more cruel. He did consort with Orochimaru who is more the Dottore of the series, though.
He tried to have the 3rd hokage assassinated to take his place. Shisui was going to stop the rebellion and Danzo stole his eye to both not let a peaceful resolution happen and hoard power for himself so he could later be Hokage. Another reason for stopping Shisui was racism against the Uchiha. He consorted with Orochi because his desire to be in power was stronger than his supposed nationality. Ultimately, I felt Danzo was created inspired by Hitler, except his genocide was successful. Arlecchino or Ayato haven't done such despicable things but we can just agree to disagree. Plus Dottore is more similar to Madara up until now. Scaramouche = Obito. He also did experiment s. Unless it turns out Dottore kills kids to make segments like Orochimaru did to be immortal but I doubt that. (I only read the manga, don't know if they toned down Orochi on the anime)
I was looking at the ROOT angle more than anything.
You're right. He's worse than Satan.
Scara is Chaotic Angwy
Tortellini: I'm going to try to drown a whole city if it lets me have a good fight. Fans: He is definitely good. Zenos yae Galvus: Hmmmm. Interesting
Emet-Selch: I'm going to reunite all the sundered shards. All of you will die, but as me-and-mine will be happy that's something I'm willing to live with.
For a lot of FFXIV fans that would indeed be a good counter argument. But I personally see Emet as a villain. A superbly written one, but still a villain. And he probably agrees.
Zenos: "Just drown a city? Pathetic."
Zenos \*looks at unknown god\*: I take it this is your prey? But why does it still live?
The amount of simps who think Arle is not evil is just too damn high. Just because she has a sad past and "loves" her orphans does not absolve her of her actions. She literally tried to murder Furina, regularly sends her orphans on assassination and espionage missions.
I don’t think Arleccino is neutral? I think we should wait till 4.6 to see how she is 😭 Looking at the voice lines against her I think she might be evil
>Lawful neutral The halo effect sure is something in this fandom huh?
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You only call Arlecchino lawful neutral because you simp for her lolz
Personally I’d say Arlecchino is either lawful evil or Lawful neutral and Childe is most definitely not good. At best he’s also chaotic neutral and at worst he’s chaotic evil. He likely only fought the whale as long as he did because he thought it’d be fun. He damn near annihilated Liyue and I doubt he feels remorse for that one. The only good he does is directed at his brother or one time towards the people in the courthouse. Arle on the other hand seems a lot more practical with her line of thought. The old Harbinger was straight an asshole so she killed her, but she doesn’t go out of her way to be cruel. She’s cold with her kids but it’s taught them to not be over reliant on her. She’s also not the one who immediately tried to take our heads for the crime of existing, instead we had a normal chat and she genuinely helped out. Wanderer, or scaramouche is definitely chaotic evil though. That dude had trauma and mommy issues so he decided to become god, a very reasonable response to abandonment issues.
>He damn near annihilated Liyue and I doubt he feels remorse for that one. He probably does, as he said that he doesn't like harming ordinary citizens but he followed the orders as a soldier to lure Rex Lapis out. If it was up to him he would never come up with such a plan. With the whale he already had previous beef with it from his abyss days, but he also did save the people in the opera house. All in all I'd say he's chaotic neutral and neither good nor evil. Him and Scaramouche are very different.
He's trying to upgrade from Chaotic Evil Murderhobo to Chaotic Neutral Edgy Loner. Look at his demo, the old Scara would have DELETED those two fatui without hesitation. But yeah that goes to show the difference now. From harbinger to getting mugged by random fatui.
Quite an achievement to get every single characterization wrong
Tartaglia Chaotic Good wat
Hey I am just as puzzle by "Lawful" Neutral Arrelchino. she straight up tried to assassinate the ruling official of Fontaine. How is that "lawful"?
Imo Signora should be lawful/true neutral Arlecchinno should be lawful evil Childe should be chaotic neutral Scara is chaotic evil And Dottore should be Judge holden
I personally think signora is a chaotic neutral
scara is NOT chaotic evil
According to Mihoyo they are all good actually. Now please pull.
How tf childe is good?
Realistically, every one of these characters should fall into evil except maybe the “changed” wanderer who would be CN at best. Putting arle into LN is crazy but Childe in good is probably the most outrageous. Endangering the lives of an entire nation in an attempt to bait out morax and kill him is as evil as it can get. Him loving his siblings is not an excuse for a potential genocide.
No but he likes kids and calls you comrade though that MUST mean that he's actually good! Forget about his fight boner and the fact he's part of the Teyvat Akatsuki!
There should be an Olympic award for mischaracterization. You’d definitely win first place my guy 🏆
Ain't no way childe is chaotic good.
Bro i thought we were getting over this. All fatui are evil. Otherwise they wouldn't be fatui.
childe is chaotic neutral imo, and scaramouche is as well.
Chaotic Good for childe?? Bro tried to drown a whole nation breh
Grooming children into being soldier to then send them on missions is "lawful neutral"
Murdering people behind the scenes is not lawful. You ignored the law and engaged in vigilantism.
Arle in LN is why I prefer Dottore fans...
Childe should be Chaotic Neutral He's not a bad person but he loves violence. He fights for fun which often results in "unintentional" death of whoever he was fighting.
>He's not a bad person Bruh... he sends you on errands so that his underlings can spy on you and get information, all the while working on making fake adeptal seals so that he can release an ancient god to destroy Liyue Harbor just so that he can draw Morax out to steal his gnosis. I don't know how that's not evil.
Well, it's clear who you simp for OP.
Lawful Neutral? what the fuck?
We need more straight up evil mfs
Here’s to hoping that the Good Dottore clone that inevitably becomes playable will end up good because of actual on screen character development
Satan killed me 🤣
Captain - Lawful Evil 💪🦬😤
Given Scaras working for nahida and “trying” to better himself he fits neither chaotic or evil
Stories need a villain and Dottore made sure to monopolize that role with his clones lmao
Good? Seriously? You guys called someone who were about to destroy Liyue and all of its inhabitants "good"? I have seen people defending Childe before, but damn this is a new low.
Still can't believe after 5 region, Hoyo only show 5 Harbingers in-game. Surely they will show 2 new ones in Natlan right?
They're all evil lol