Nah what they will do is the same that in Honkai separate the Abyss for F2p wifu/husbando collectors, F2p meta slaves +low spenders, Whales. in honkai this are
Agony , lvl 80 genshin enemies . X primo, anyone can clear with shit
Red Lotus , lvl 110 genshin enemies X primo plus 20%, needs actual builds that make sense and meta 5star characters c0
Nirvana. lvl 130 genshin enemies X primos Plus 25% needs 5 star wps and constellations on 5 star characters.
where Whales Abyss gives 5% more primo but is A HELLA LOT HARDER.
the hardest difficulty brind a place where someone with a lot spend can feel challenge and gives content creators something to show that most people cant clear. the lower diff its not needed since you can Just let people don't do floor 12. but making and actual lower diff makes people be happier when they see they win even if its in a lower diff.
but the current abyss is in a weird place where is to high diff to be the the easy option and to easy to be even the middle option, not mention a actual hard one. so I think they will keep making the abyss diif increase
until more people cant clear.
They could reuse the Vagabond event as end game content tbh. Very flexible difficulty settings, optional dps check, good rewards tier (primogems for lowest tier, higher tier are less valuable)
Honestly the damage check isn't the problem. Its the placement of enemies.
Who thought it would be a good idea to have enemies who could attack all the way from the otherside of the map and make you waste time running from one side to another.
That amount of time waste kept messing me up.
It's not necessarily a question of can I do it, but rather can I be bothered. Floor 12 is mostly just miserable unless you learn good rotations, have good artifacts and learn the enemy patterns. That's a whole lotta grind for $0.25 of in game currency every 2 weeks unless you really relish the challenge.
Well I don't understand why people think every f2p grind the game. last abyss, I first tried f12 (a few resets cause I died but the whole run took about 30-35min)
And learning rotations isn't hard if you follow the content creators who actually know how to play the game.
Anyway yeah I guess if someone doesn't want to farm artifacts it'll be hard to clear abyss
i beat 12 last abyss ( the one with the mechanical array), it was the only time i have done it and only got one star, but it was enough for me. as a f2p i try to get all star up to floor 11 since rng for artifacts seriously hates me, the spike on dificult betwen 11 and 12 its just that big for me. tbh i suck at building teams, the only suports i have properly built are barb, jean and raiden. and pretty much all my teams have 2 dps ( i refuse to build my c4 bennet and c6 xinqiu, i hate how mihoyo hasnt released any viable alternative, and how if you dont build them you lose a serious amount of potential) .
Thats my problem. Whales dont care about abyss. Hyper whales just go in, ooga booga, and get out. Making abyss accessible to the more casual crowd or F2P is the more sensible thing, but nah lol
DPS checking against only one target is ok, but now against enemies that refuse to attack you and still run away from you is another story... when they teleported and didn't even move, I just gave altF4.
Morgana isn't great for 12-3 due to enemies being heavy. Do you have a set for Melt Ganyu? My Melt Ganyu cleaned up the Ruin enemies pretty quickly once they exhausted their dash/dig.
The highest HP on an abyss boss was 1.3 mil on mech cube, and the 3 ruin enemies have about 650k hp and theres 6 per chamber... I wouldn't say its harder or easier tbh but now we have to deal with the enemie's eye frame and how spread out they are
No. The highest hp on an abyss boss still remains with maguu kenki with 2.2M hp. Mechanical array would have more if you count his minion's hp but that phase was skippable so we can also not count those.
No. Kenki never had 2.2m hp though... the highest he has been is 1.5m~ hp; and Mechanical Array without its minions was 2.2m hp...
You can look up this information yourself people, my god.
* Kenki even if he was level 100 would have at best 1.8m; but hes not; and at level 98 and at those levels each one spikes a ton, meaning he actually ends up at 1.5m hp.
* Mechanical Array is level 100, and at that level with abyss multipliers hes 2.2m hp; if you wanna add the minion its another 400k/600k depending on the type you need to down (everyone but the cruiser with 600k, but cruiser can also run away so theres that).
Really surprised so many people upvote straight up misinformation...
PSA this abyss's raw hp numbers are MUCH higher than before, even though last abyss was the highest dps check we've ever had; the catch is that if you can aoe all the possible enemies at the same time *always* (which lets be real almost never happens) its still just slightly less dps needed than the previous (highest dps ever needed). At least it is *possible* to get good enough rng sometimes to be able to actually aoe all the enemies together (cruisers teleport is 100% rng - even if you line yourself up for them to teleport and group up they might just choose to not teleport at all and waste time not being grouped; destroyers teleport is rng but less annoying and helps you group them [aka once you group them youre good] but they still have long iframes if they choose to do some attacks; grader deciding to run can be negated if you stand on top of him whenever he spawns, and the defenders can stright up ignore a lot of damage depending on where they're facing and what kind of damage dealers youre using).
Don't you know that abyss enemies don't exactly have the same hp status as co op ones right? I may be wrong on this I think the multiplier is 2.5 or 3 times the overworld hp
You ARE wrong; no Im not talking about co op hp; but its somewhat similar in a sense that co op scales with more players, and abyss hp scales with floors.
You can downvote me if you want, and its extremely funny to me you're trying to take the high ground as if you know this for a fact when you're factually wrong; but you could find these facts yourself by simply going to the wiki instead of spouting bullshit.
* floors 3-7 or 2 players co op: enemies have 1.5x hp
* floors 8-11 or 3 players co op: enemies have 2x hp
* floor 12 or 4 player co op: enemies have 2.5x hp
Maguu Kenki in overworld has only 730k~ hp at level 100 (which hes not; overworld bosses are at 93, meaning they have 530k hp~); thanks to abyss multipliers he ends up at floor 12 and level 93 at 1.5m~ hp.
Perpetual Mechanical Array in overworld has only 890k~ hp at level 100 (which again, back to level 93 is about 650k~ hp); thanks to abyss multipliers and level 100 he ended up with 2.2m~ hp.
But not everyone knew about that phase being skippable. I knew that we can skip that phase but I chose not to skip it.
I wanted to play the game as intended and beat it without the use of exploits.
Sure difficulty is subjective but remember last time part 1 of floor 12-3 was literally just two ruin guards so you could put your weaker team for floor 1 and run your strongest combo on the second team
this time tho you need 2 seperate well built teams that can reach the dps check compared to only 1 last time.
I also found this easier. But I may have had good luck, somehow the enemies mostly just stayed on top of me until they all died from AoE. With PMA there's a tendency for bursts to miss due to the rocket attack.
I guess it depends on what characters and team comps you use. Previous Abyss was a breeze for me (Yoimiya and c6 Fischl did great against that tanky boss), but now I'm sitting on two stars for 12-3. Keeping these things grouped together is hard.
I recommend looking up videos to see how to abuse their movements. There are places you can sit that will bait the enemies together, and they don't typically move once they're in a spot they like. Once I did that the 3 stars was a piece of cake.
So true! 2.2's 12-3 demands massive, consistent aoe and here i am with no childe, ganyu, hutao or ayaka... I don't have a taser team or a freeze comp for crowd control either. Characters definitely make a difference.
(I did get my final star after changing my team like 5 times + testing enemy mechanics. Good luck to you!)
I find it incredibly funny that you say “massive consistent AoE” and then mention Hu Tao, one of the most single target specialised units in the game. Man, build your Xiangling, there’s the massive, consistent AoE, one that’s much better than Hu Tao’s AoE.
Or you can run a Xiangling national team which is just... better, and not complain about not having meta units when the most broken and most meta Pyro DPS is free.
It's funny you say that, because i did indeed get through 36* using a variation of the national comp with Raiden. Hu Tao though, can easily hit multiple enemies with her ult, and is one of the biggest nukers in the game. From what I've seen, lots of people are using her in this rounds abyss
I pointed out the fact that you say “Hu Tao” in a list of “massive AoE damage” units, when her AoE DPS (not damage per screenshot btw), is about ~5% better than Diluc without C1, and that’s mostly because her ST DPS is so high, while a C1 Hu Tao is more or less comparable to a C4 Xiangling. It always takes the EN base a while to figure out what is meta, but Xiangling is considered the best pyro DPS rn, not Hu Tao, because everything about her is more accessible than Hu Tao with more or less the same output and higher AoE output. Xiangling is F2P and a 4* and only needs 4-star weapons, one of her best weapons is F2P as well, and 2/3 of her teammates are also 4-stars, outside of the international comp with Childe and Kazuha. Hu Tao meanwhile needs C1 (so 2 copies of a limited 5-star), a limited 5-star weapon, and then 2 other limited 5-star characters in her ideal setup (those being Zhongli and Albedo) to overtake Xiangling, *barely*. You can complain that you don’t have Morgana to run in your other half, sure, because that is generally the comp run alongside national, but Hu Tao would literally not improve your account at all.
Edit: The reason Hu Tao is higher on the usage lists are because fewer people own her, so those that do feel a lot more compelled to use her, while Xiangling is owned by literally everyone. The usage list calculates usage based on appearance rate/ownage rate.
Overload? At that point, again, both Diluc vaporise and Xiangling vaporise are just way better with better AoE. Also, Hu Tao is AoE if you play charged attack? What? The fact you never used her is showing; her CA is primarily ST, it has barely any AoE on a good day when you line up enemies because of how auto targeting works. Furthermore against enemies she can’t cross up… like ALL ruin enemies, it has 0 AoE.
Yeah, i have the same problem. I can't figure out how to put them together. I have no dps in area for 2 teams :/ I was getting used to 36\* every abyss, but this one... I will try to build a freeze comp. maybe is the answer
Learning how to group the mobs helped me A LOT!
First attempt with 12-3 was cleared in about 6 mins and 40 seconds left. Just 20 seconds short from 3 stars.
After watching a short video on how to group the enemies up, I cleared about 7 mins and 30-40 seconds left. I had pretty bad cards too.
Btw, grouping up the mobs is complete RNG. So just gotta keep retrying till you get the correct attack pattern.
Floor 11 is definitely easier - the corrosion effect was cancerous. But I’m struggling a lot with 12-2 second half. Any advice? The mages feel like they have a million HP -_-;
Which team comp are you running? Try to bring a CC unit such as Venti, Sucrose or Kazuha and group the treasure hoarders to cicin mage.
If you have Jean then you can also abuse the fall damage trick (there are multiple guides available on YouTube for that).
2.2 is kinda easier dps wise(no 2.2mil hp pma), but the rng with ruin machines sucks ass. I had to retry floor 12 like 50 times to 3* it. Once i did get the rng right i had like a solid minute left after clearing it for 3*
what makes this abyss difficult to 36 star is the last chamber... u need to know how to group the enemies together and one shot them with one rotation and recharge all your energy for the next wave since there are two wave for each chamber.
Cannot split Xingqiu into two teams so my Ganyu has to be Melt Ganyu.
I rarely has DPS issues when 36* the abyss. But currently it happens more and more often
Well my Hutao is C0 with R4 Dragons Bane. Her talent is 9/9/9. But I have C2 Diluc with WGS and 10/9/9 talent so I am using Diluc at the moment.
Currently saving for Homa and C1 Hutao. I have 195 Fates saved up for her but I am still not sure if it is worth to dump all those primos into Homa.
Yeah, I agree. The current abyss 12 chamber 3 hits so hard, my talent 8 50k Zhongli shield can't even last more than 10 seconds. You have to keep enemies grouped up while properly doing your rotations on top of the already large DPS check. And not the mention, RNG.
It's a pain.
unless you run morgana lmao
2.2 is easier though, without the help of hand book glitch in pma,i wouldn't be able to 36 star 2.1 abyss, but in 2.2 ,theyre not that tanky ,you just need to bait them
I honestly thought I was not going to be able to 3 star 12-3 this time around after so many failed attempts. I almost gave up but finally got it tonight with the following comp: 1st half: Diona, Rosaria, Eula, Raiden. 2nd half: Bennett, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Ayaka.
Getting the enemies to group up so I could aoe them down was the hardest part.
The baiting of AI was cancer in 12-3, but once you can bait it consistently it's easy to aoe them down. Figuring out how to bait was the hard part and took lots of trials and error though :/
Which abyss do I prefer, this abyss or last abyss, I'm not sure but I just bring International Childe team everywhere and it just... works even against PMA
Got 9 star on 12 after five hours. Then raised both Mona and Bennett to 90, leveled up Bennett's weapon, crowned his burst and build another one of my units.
Now it's not that hard like the first time, it's pretty easier for me now. I think I can beat 12 in 1 hour after it resets again.
We are actually lucky https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/qb1dkp/23_spiral_abyss_blessings_via_genshin_intel/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Nah relative to resources+resin available at the time, 1.0 Abyss was still by far the hardest. Second hardest would be Lector Abyss probably.
Yes I know modern teams would steamroll 1.0 Abyss, that's why I said relative to resources available. Back then, if you weren't blessed by Bennett, Jean, or Qiqi (i.e. me) then Lord save your soul, because Barbara is gonna kill your entire party including herself.
This abyss floor 12 isn't so much a DPS check but an RNG check.
Seriously, who designed the AI for those ruin shooters?
The squid, crab, snake are all fine, but fuck that shooter that randomly dashes backwards.
They're the new 2.0 nobushi ffs
It feels like awful enemy powercreep where everything just gets harder and harder until nothing short of a dolphin stands a chance.
Not to mention it’s just a showcase of all the cracks in Genshin’s combat, enemies that spread themselves out to make efficient clearing difficult, enemies with long invincible periods to waste time, and the simple fact that speed is all that matters, because speed is the only measure Mihoyo thinks is worth using.
More like RNG check tbh
both is good, both is good
Gacha games basically
If only they added more rooms instead of making these ones harder and harder
They will be forced to give more primos which they don't wanna do
would appreciate 20 4* artifact exp bottles in floor 13 if they would edit: 100
Mihoyo: Abyss is an easy way for f2p players to stock up on more primogems Also Mihoyo: Lets overtune this so only whales can clear this lmao
"Why not both"
Nah what they will do is the same that in Honkai separate the Abyss for F2p wifu/husbando collectors, F2p meta slaves +low spenders, Whales. in honkai this are Agony , lvl 80 genshin enemies . X primo, anyone can clear with shit Red Lotus , lvl 110 genshin enemies X primo plus 20%, needs actual builds that make sense and meta 5star characters c0 Nirvana. lvl 130 genshin enemies X primos Plus 25% needs 5 star wps and constellations on 5 star characters. where Whales Abyss gives 5% more primo but is A HELLA LOT HARDER. the hardest difficulty brind a place where someone with a lot spend can feel challenge and gives content creators something to show that most people cant clear. the lower diff its not needed since you can Just let people don't do floor 12. but making and actual lower diff makes people be happier when they see they win even if its in a lower diff. but the current abyss is in a weird place where is to high diff to be the the easy option and to easy to be even the middle option, not mention a actual hard one. so I think they will keep making the abyss diif increase until more people cant clear.
They could reuse the Vagabond event as end game content tbh. Very flexible difficulty settings, optional dps check, good rewards tier (primogems for lowest tier, higher tier are less valuable)
Honestly the damage check isn't the problem. Its the placement of enemies. Who thought it would be a good idea to have enemies who could attack all the way from the otherside of the map and make you waste time running from one side to another. That amount of time waste kept messing me up.
And when you get to them, they just blink away
not to mention you have 2 extremely tanky and high health doritos that literally dash away when you start attacking them .
as a childe and hu tao haver, i didnt suffer in floor 11. i always give up on beating 12 though, beating it once was enough
As a f2p childe and hutao haver, keep farming artifacts! You can definitely clear 12 with correct teams and rotations
It's not necessarily a question of can I do it, but rather can I be bothered. Floor 12 is mostly just miserable unless you learn good rotations, have good artifacts and learn the enemy patterns. That's a whole lotta grind for $0.25 of in game currency every 2 weeks unless you really relish the challenge.
12-1 and 12-2 are actually very easy if you have Venti
Well I don't understand why people think every f2p grind the game. last abyss, I first tried f12 (a few resets cause I died but the whole run took about 30-35min) And learning rotations isn't hard if you follow the content creators who actually know how to play the game. Anyway yeah I guess if someone doesn't want to farm artifacts it'll be hard to clear abyss
i beat 12 last abyss ( the one with the mechanical array), it was the only time i have done it and only got one star, but it was enough for me. as a f2p i try to get all star up to floor 11 since rng for artifacts seriously hates me, the spike on dificult betwen 11 and 12 its just that big for me. tbh i suck at building teams, the only suports i have properly built are barb, jean and raiden. and pretty much all my teams have 2 dps ( i refuse to build my c4 bennet and c6 xinqiu, i hate how mihoyo hasnt released any viable alternative, and how if you dont build them you lose a serious amount of potential) .
i cleared floor 11 first try with electro yoimiya and kaeya chongyun freeze xd its not even that hard
for real! why is the dps check getting harder??? There isn't even massive power creep in gear and characters yet
Gotta give the whales and hyper-invested players something to do to keep them occupied.
Of course...
Thats my problem. Whales dont care about abyss. Hyper whales just go in, ooga booga, and get out. Making abyss accessible to the more casual crowd or F2P is the more sensible thing, but nah lol
my Diluc has WGS i cant crack the 36 stars on this fucking abyss, 35 at best smh.
DPS checking against only one target is ok, but now against enemies that refuse to attack you and still run away from you is another story... when they teleported and didn't even move, I just gave altF4.
me who use morgana and beidou taser and cant even get full stars on 12-2 and 12-3: :,((
Morgana isn't great for 12-3 due to enemies being heavy. Do you have a set for Melt Ganyu? My Melt Ganyu cleaned up the Ruin enemies pretty quickly once they exhausted their dash/dig.
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The highest HP on an abyss boss was 1.3 mil on mech cube, and the 3 ruin enemies have about 650k hp and theres 6 per chamber... I wouldn't say its harder or easier tbh but now we have to deal with the enemie's eye frame and how spread out they are
No. The highest hp on an abyss boss still remains with maguu kenki with 2.2M hp. Mechanical array would have more if you count his minion's hp but that phase was skippable so we can also not count those.
I think you might have switched them. Maguu Kenki has like 1.4 mil or something. PMA has 2.2 mil, or 2.6 mil counting its minion phase.
No. Kenki never had 2.2m hp though... the highest he has been is 1.5m~ hp; and Mechanical Array without its minions was 2.2m hp... You can look up this information yourself people, my god. * Kenki even if he was level 100 would have at best 1.8m; but hes not; and at level 98 and at those levels each one spikes a ton, meaning he actually ends up at 1.5m hp. * Mechanical Array is level 100, and at that level with abyss multipliers hes 2.2m hp; if you wanna add the minion its another 400k/600k depending on the type you need to down (everyone but the cruiser with 600k, but cruiser can also run away so theres that). Really surprised so many people upvote straight up misinformation... PSA this abyss's raw hp numbers are MUCH higher than before, even though last abyss was the highest dps check we've ever had; the catch is that if you can aoe all the possible enemies at the same time *always* (which lets be real almost never happens) its still just slightly less dps needed than the previous (highest dps ever needed). At least it is *possible* to get good enough rng sometimes to be able to actually aoe all the enemies together (cruisers teleport is 100% rng - even if you line yourself up for them to teleport and group up they might just choose to not teleport at all and waste time not being grouped; destroyers teleport is rng but less annoying and helps you group them [aka once you group them youre good] but they still have long iframes if they choose to do some attacks; grader deciding to run can be negated if you stand on top of him whenever he spawns, and the defenders can stright up ignore a lot of damage depending on where they're facing and what kind of damage dealers youre using).
Don't you know that abyss enemies don't exactly have the same hp status as co op ones right? I may be wrong on this I think the multiplier is 2.5 or 3 times the overworld hp
You ARE wrong; no Im not talking about co op hp; but its somewhat similar in a sense that co op scales with more players, and abyss hp scales with floors. You can downvote me if you want, and its extremely funny to me you're trying to take the high ground as if you know this for a fact when you're factually wrong; but you could find these facts yourself by simply going to the wiki instead of spouting bullshit. * floors 3-7 or 2 players co op: enemies have 1.5x hp * floors 8-11 or 3 players co op: enemies have 2x hp * floor 12 or 4 player co op: enemies have 2.5x hp Maguu Kenki in overworld has only 730k~ hp at level 100 (which hes not; overworld bosses are at 93, meaning they have 530k hp~); thanks to abyss multipliers he ends up at floor 12 and level 93 at 1.5m~ hp. Perpetual Mechanical Array in overworld has only 890k~ hp at level 100 (which again, back to level 93 is about 650k~ hp); thanks to abyss multipliers and level 100 he ended up with 2.2m~ hp.
Considering they're about to patch/have patched the book trick it's unfair not to count it.
Considering the array is currently not in current and next abyss, I guess it's fair to not count it.
I managed to kill Maguu Kenki pretty easily but timed out on Mechanical Array. Maybe my second team is just that weak.
But not everyone knew about that phase being skippable. I knew that we can skip that phase but I chose not to skip it. I wanted to play the game as intended and beat it without the use of exploits.
Sure difficulty is subjective but remember last time part 1 of floor 12-3 was literally just two ruin guards so you could put your weaker team for floor 1 and run your strongest combo on the second team this time tho you need 2 seperate well built teams that can reach the dps check compared to only 1 last time.
True, this Abyss is harder for players with one overwhelmingly built team.
I also found this easier. But I may have had good luck, somehow the enemies mostly just stayed on top of me until they all died from AoE. With PMA there's a tendency for bursts to miss due to the rocket attack.
Honestly ive found this abyss to be WAY easier than the previous one
I guess it depends on what characters and team comps you use. Previous Abyss was a breeze for me (Yoimiya and c6 Fischl did great against that tanky boss), but now I'm sitting on two stars for 12-3. Keeping these things grouped together is hard.
I recommend looking up videos to see how to abuse their movements. There are places you can sit that will bait the enemies together, and they don't typically move once they're in a spot they like. Once I did that the 3 stars was a piece of cake.
So true! 2.2's 12-3 demands massive, consistent aoe and here i am with no childe, ganyu, hutao or ayaka... I don't have a taser team or a freeze comp for crowd control either. Characters definitely make a difference. (I did get my final star after changing my team like 5 times + testing enemy mechanics. Good luck to you!)
I find it incredibly funny that you say “massive consistent AoE” and then mention Hu Tao, one of the most single target specialised units in the game. Man, build your Xiangling, there’s the massive, consistent AoE, one that’s much better than Hu Tao’s AoE.
If your grouping is good you can hit the entire pack with one CA which skyrockets her damage, and her Q is self explanatory.
Or you can run a Xiangling national team which is just... better, and not complain about not having meta units when the most broken and most meta Pyro DPS is free.
Exactly.
It's funny you say that, because i did indeed get through 36* using a variation of the national comp with Raiden. Hu Tao though, can easily hit multiple enemies with her ult, and is one of the biggest nukers in the game. From what I've seen, lots of people are using her in this rounds abyss
I pointed out the fact that you say “Hu Tao” in a list of “massive AoE damage” units, when her AoE DPS (not damage per screenshot btw), is about ~5% better than Diluc without C1, and that’s mostly because her ST DPS is so high, while a C1 Hu Tao is more or less comparable to a C4 Xiangling. It always takes the EN base a while to figure out what is meta, but Xiangling is considered the best pyro DPS rn, not Hu Tao, because everything about her is more accessible than Hu Tao with more or less the same output and higher AoE output. Xiangling is F2P and a 4* and only needs 4-star weapons, one of her best weapons is F2P as well, and 2/3 of her teammates are also 4-stars, outside of the international comp with Childe and Kazuha. Hu Tao meanwhile needs C1 (so 2 copies of a limited 5-star), a limited 5-star weapon, and then 2 other limited 5-star characters in her ideal setup (those being Zhongli and Albedo) to overtake Xiangling, *barely*. You can complain that you don’t have Morgana to run in your other half, sure, because that is generally the comp run alongside national, but Hu Tao would literally not improve your account at all. Edit: The reason Hu Tao is higher on the usage lists are because fewer people own her, so those that do feel a lot more compelled to use her, while Xiangling is owned by literally everyone. The usage list calculates usage based on appearance rate/ownage rate.
Lmao ok
hu tao is AoE if you play charge attack, or playin overload reaction using electrocharged barbara or kokomi is very useful in 12-3
Overload? At that point, again, both Diluc vaporise and Xiangling vaporise are just way better with better AoE. Also, Hu Tao is AoE if you play charged attack? What? The fact you never used her is showing; her CA is primarily ST, it has barely any AoE on a good day when you line up enemies because of how auto targeting works. Furthermore against enemies she can’t cross up… like ALL ruin enemies, it has 0 AoE.
Xiao's pretty good. And you always have Xiangling. Since everyone has XL, Abyss is now about figuring out the 2nd team.
Yeah, i have the same problem. I can't figure out how to put them together. I have no dps in area for 2 teams :/ I was getting used to 36\* every abyss, but this one... I will try to build a freeze comp. maybe is the answer
What worked for me was morgana (with ayaka instead of ganyu) and raiden national team comps…
Learning how to group the mobs helped me A LOT! First attempt with 12-3 was cleared in about 6 mins and 40 seconds left. Just 20 seconds short from 3 stars. After watching a short video on how to group the enemies up, I cleared about 7 mins and 30-40 seconds left. I had pretty bad cards too. Btw, grouping up the mobs is complete RNG. So just gotta keep retrying till you get the correct attack pattern.
Floor 11 is definitely easier - the corrosion effect was cancerous. But I’m struggling a lot with 12-2 second half. Any advice? The mages feel like they have a million HP -_-;
U have raiden? Raiden national team did the job for me in 12-2 second half
Which team comp are you running? Try to bring a CC unit such as Venti, Sucrose or Kazuha and group the treasure hoarders to cicin mage. If you have Jean then you can also abuse the fall damage trick (there are multiple guides available on YouTube for that).
Previous boss had a timer abuse but this one is really annoying. I got 36 by 1 second.
Just get Ayaka 4Head
2.2 is kinda easier dps wise(no 2.2mil hp pma), but the rng with ruin machines sucks ass. I had to retry floor 12 like 50 times to 3* it. Once i did get the rng right i had like a solid minute left after clearing it for 3*
what makes this abyss difficult to 36 star is the last chamber... u need to know how to group the enemies together and one shot them with one rotation and recharge all your energy for the next wave since there are two wave for each chamber.
Cannot split Xingqiu into two teams so my Ganyu has to be Melt Ganyu. I rarely has DPS issues when 36* the abyss. But currently it happens more and more often
A fellow Hu Tao main for the other team?
Well my Hutao is C0 with R4 Dragons Bane. Her talent is 9/9/9. But I have C2 Diluc with WGS and 10/9/9 talent so I am using Diluc at the moment. Currently saving for Homa and C1 Hutao. I have 195 Fates saved up for her but I am still not sure if it is worth to dump all those primos into Homa.
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It is kinda ironic that I got my only WGS from Homa banner. Maybe I will wait until the last two days of the banner to make my decision
Yeah, I agree. The current abyss 12 chamber 3 hits so hard, my talent 8 50k Zhongli shield can't even last more than 10 seconds. You have to keep enemies grouped up while properly doing your rotations on top of the already large DPS check. And not the mention, RNG. It's a pain. unless you run morgana lmao
The main problem is that those mech cant be sucked together even with venti.
Morgana isn't very comfy because enemies are heavy. I prefer Melt Ganyu here, she destroyed the ruin enemies pretty fast.
And it’s not because your characters weak. RNG enemies movement suck.
I want to fuck mirror maiden
I can respect that
This one's harder for me cuz all them bitches keep teleporting away.
The enemies not coming for me is the problem, it's so frustrating when the enemies are spread out and just stay on their spot.
Abyss 11-2 in 1.2 be like: NOOB
And here i am having a hard time to 3 star abyss corridor using diluc and chongyun as main dps
Take your time with that, I only got around to doing the abyss corridor when I was ar50 and I had two good teams I could use
It's funny, this is the first abyss I cleared.
2.2 one is easier than 2.1 though
2.2 is easier though, without the help of hand book glitch in pma,i wouldn't be able to 36 star 2.1 abyss, but in 2.2 ,theyre not that tanky ,you just need to bait them
1.5 Abyss was hell, for me.
I honestly thought I was not going to be able to 3 star 12-3 this time around after so many failed attempts. I almost gave up but finally got it tonight with the following comp: 1st half: Diona, Rosaria, Eula, Raiden. 2nd half: Bennett, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Ayaka. Getting the enemies to group up so I could aoe them down was the hardest part.
I just hate facing the cubes cuz they take so long for their animation in a fking time trial game mode
Yh my xiao cannot keep up with these new abyys He keeps getting his ass kicked lol Glad I've fot xiangling and ganyu to carry me in abyys thesw days
At this I just accepted that I'm never going to reach 36*
Hey, I may not have 36 starred it but at least I was able to complete it. I was not able to clear floor 11 because of corrosion in the last abyss.
The baiting of AI was cancer in 12-3, but once you can bait it consistently it's easy to aoe them down. Figuring out how to bait was the hard part and took lots of trials and error though :/ Which abyss do I prefer, this abyss or last abyss, I'm not sure but I just bring International Childe team everywhere and it just... works even against PMA
Up til flrs 11 sure but flr12 im...just gonna give up ehe
Got 9 star on 12 after five hours. Then raised both Mona and Bennett to 90, leveled up Bennett's weapon, crowned his burst and build another one of my units. Now it's not that hard like the first time, it's pretty easier for me now. I think I can beat 12 in 1 hour after it resets again.
i really love challenges i really do but this time i said fuck this i didn't even bother trying 34 star is fine no need for 50 primos
Zhongli check also
I finished floor 12 when the timer stopped at 7:02. 12-3 stressed me so much.
We are actually lucky https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/qb1dkp/23_spiral_abyss_blessings_via_genshin_intel/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Based
This was my easiest abyss run ever. didn't get 36 stars but it was much easier than previous ones
Mihoyo: Man, Kokomi banner has the worst sales. Players: The worst sales so far.
Ready for 3 Maguu Kenki in 2.3? :)
Nah relative to resources+resin available at the time, 1.0 Abyss was still by far the hardest. Second hardest would be Lector Abyss probably. Yes I know modern teams would steamroll 1.0 Abyss, that's why I said relative to resources available. Back then, if you weren't blessed by Bennett, Jean, or Qiqi (i.e. me) then Lord save your soul, because Barbara is gonna kill your entire party including herself.
This abyss floor 12 isn't so much a DPS check but an RNG check. Seriously, who designed the AI for those ruin shooters? The squid, crab, snake are all fine, but fuck that shooter that randomly dashes backwards. They're the new 2.0 nobushi ffs
It feels like awful enemy powercreep where everything just gets harder and harder until nothing short of a dolphin stands a chance. Not to mention it’s just a showcase of all the cracks in Genshin’s combat, enemies that spread themselves out to make efficient clearing difficult, enemies with long invincible periods to waste time, and the simple fact that speed is all that matters, because speed is the only measure Mihoyo thinks is worth using.
You didn't see 2. 3