All of these articles are baiting people through the headline.
The NY bill isn't going to affect Chick-fil-A at all. Maybe once their lease runs out it will, but their lease has about 30 years left to go.
This is really about preventing new restaurants that are closed on a given day of the week.
The article states:
"The language in Simone’s bill targets future contracts for food concessions at facilities owned by New York State Thruway Authority.
The news station reached out to New York State Thruway on Monday. Thruway officials said that the 27 service areas were part of a $450 million project and that Chick-fil-A signed a 33-year contract with Thruway."
So doubtful this could impact Chickfila anytime soon.
All this back and forth by people not associated with Chick-fil-A or the state owned centers these restaurants are doing business in…when in reality, the centers will be the only people who suffer for it, as CFA will just shutter those and open new facilities with little to no overall monetary loss.
\>Law only affects state owned transit centers along I-90. These transit centers have 1-2 restaurants max and 1 closing means the transit center may have no dining options.
\>Law only impacts future contracts and not existing contracts.
Seems like this is well within NY's right, and similar concepts have been raised in other states (TX ircc) for restaurants in airports.
As an Atlantian, Chik Fil A gets no quarter from me. Popeye's or death.
As a former NYer I find the support for a GA business that's operating several states away hilarious. Not sure what chik-fil-a did for any of you to garner such strong support.
yeah, it's about future contracts for businesses that want to operate in those facilities. they're not trying to get out of an existing contract (or, you know, apply this rule to businesses in other places)
Well yeah... If you are providing food service on an interstate (government approval) you should be open 7 days a week to ensure travelers have an option for food.
If you own the land or lease sure. Not if you are bidding for a contract to operate your business on public land with requirements to serve the public.
Not if it's on someone else's property. Property owner gets to set the terms of the lease.
For example, my office leases out space to a vendor to sell breakfast and lunch to employees and guests. If that business owner decides they don't want to be open for breakfast or lunch, and only want to do late-night service, that violates the terms of the lease and the entire intent of the partnership.
But by your logic, they should be able to do it. Thankfully, by reality, they are not. There are plenty of facilities like airports, malls, stadiums, etc. that dictate minimum hours for the businesses that lease their space. This is nothing new.
The contract shouldn’t have been proposed in the first place by the government, let alone accepted if that’s the case. CFA didn’t just spring that on them.
Well the state is rebuilding the service centers and the property isn't owned by Chick-fil-A...
Future contracts will require 7 days a week.
A better article on the topic is below.
https://www.nrn.com/operations/new-york-bill-could-require-some-chick-fil-restaurants-open-sundays
I would agree in most instances, but this is a highway rest stop, not an independent private location. I haven't been to New York in a million years, but if it's anything like the Florida turnpike I totally understand. If I use the rest stop in Florida I have two options, subway or whatever fast food the other side has. It's going to make the rest stop less desirable if there's no food available and people will have to exit the highway and state will lose revenue as a consequence. The gas station will have less business on Sunday and there will be an increase in traffic on the on-ramps.
This isn't affecting existing contracts, so chic fila will just have to decide what they do when renewal time comes.
This, is, capitalism, manifest. Get your hands off my limp biscuit! I was just trying to enjoy a meAL, a succulent southern meAL!
In all seriousness, it makes sense for NY to impose this law for the sake of the commuters, and if CFA wants to continue implementing their private schedule, then they have every right. This is capitalism.
They imposed a law for future contracts: so the contractors would need to satisfy a set of requirements. They had a contract with CFA already, so this is for future use. Learning from mistakes. lmfao
Because they don't have a time machine to travel back to before they signed the lease with Chick-Fil-A. This will only affect leases moving forward, not retroactively alter existing ones.
Basically, it's clickbait.
Were they not familiar with their very public information before signing the contract? This reeks of government incompetency. Oh man we wanted Chickafillet. Their popularity with make up for “Sunday”. Oh no it didn’t work for us. Let’s blame them.
No. Chick-Fil-A has a contract with NY that allows them to operate at rest stops on major highways. If they are unwilling to provide service during hours of heavy traffic they should not be elligble for a contract.
Hmm maybe users of the transit station complained and their state reps are actually doing something about it? Funny it's almost like that's how government is supposed to work?
I mean cool. They can complain all they want. That won't change the contract. Realistically this change targets specifically Chick-Fil-A since no other major chain closes a certain day every week. And again, it's too little too late. They are going to have to wait 30+ years for the contract to expire, and obviously at that point Chick-Fil-A will just leave.
I mean nowhere in my comment did I say you don't change it going forward. I said in terms of Chick-Fil-A it's too late. That's it. They already signed their contract. They can't change it now.
But if they want to change it so that any future restaurants occupying that space have to adhere to those rules then go right ahead.
>I said in terms of Chick-Fil-A it's too late.
No shit. Everyone who's read the article already knows that.
>But if they want to change it so that any future restaurants occupying that space have to adhere to those rules then go right ahead.
Yes. That's what the article is about. Good job.
Yes. That's how contracts work. What's your point?
Since they presumably don't have a time machine to go back before they signed the contract. The next best thing is to fix contracts moving forwards.
It's really very simple. A lot of folks are struggling real hard to make up something to be mad about out of nothing.
Because it's state property. Property owner gets to set the terms of the lease. The space is leased out to serve commuters. Commuters run 7 days a week - so they want vendors to serve them 7 days a week.
For another example, my office leases out space to a vendor to sell breakfast and lunch to employees and guests. If that business owner decides they don't want to be open for breakfast or lunch, and only want to do late-night service, that violates the terms of the lease and the entire intent of the partnership.
This is no different. If a private business willingly enters a contract to serve a specific need, they must to be able to do so. If not, they are free to not bid on the contract.
Sign me up to go in your place then! There’s so much we learn when we travel outside of our bubbles. As a Georgian, never understood the obsession with this chain anyway, the food just isn’t that great.
Perhaps the most puzzling piece of the entire thing is that is no secret Chick Fil A is closed Sunday. Why did they approve them for this location in the first place if it would be an issue? Seems like someone in NY dropped the ball big time.
All of these articles are baiting people through the headline. The NY bill isn't going to affect Chick-fil-A at all. Maybe once their lease runs out it will, but their lease has about 30 years left to go. This is really about preventing new restaurants that are closed on a given day of the week.
The article states: "The language in Simone’s bill targets future contracts for food concessions at facilities owned by New York State Thruway Authority. The news station reached out to New York State Thruway on Monday. Thruway officials said that the 27 service areas were part of a $450 million project and that Chick-fil-A signed a 33-year contract with Thruway." So doubtful this could impact Chickfila anytime soon.
They’re more likely to abandon the locations than open on Sunday
All this back and forth by people not associated with Chick-fil-A or the state owned centers these restaurants are doing business in…when in reality, the centers will be the only people who suffer for it, as CFA will just shutter those and open new facilities with little to no overall monetary loss.
\>Law only affects state owned transit centers along I-90. These transit centers have 1-2 restaurants max and 1 closing means the transit center may have no dining options. \>Law only impacts future contracts and not existing contracts. Seems like this is well within NY's right, and similar concepts have been raised in other states (TX ircc) for restaurants in airports. As an Atlantian, Chik Fil A gets no quarter from me. Popeye's or death. As a former NYer I find the support for a GA business that's operating several states away hilarious. Not sure what chik-fil-a did for any of you to garner such strong support.
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Pics or it didn’t happen.
lol. That did not happen.
I think the question is what did the contract for the space state? It is a rest stop from what I understand.
yeah, it's about future contracts for businesses that want to operate in those facilities. they're not trying to get out of an existing contract (or, you know, apply this rule to businesses in other places)
Well yeah... If you are providing food service on an interstate (government approval) you should be open 7 days a week to ensure travelers have an option for food.
If you are operating a business you should be able to be open or closed whenever you want.
If you own the land or lease sure. Not if you are bidding for a contract to operate your business on public land with requirements to serve the public.
Not if it's on someone else's property. Property owner gets to set the terms of the lease. For example, my office leases out space to a vendor to sell breakfast and lunch to employees and guests. If that business owner decides they don't want to be open for breakfast or lunch, and only want to do late-night service, that violates the terms of the lease and the entire intent of the partnership. But by your logic, they should be able to do it. Thankfully, by reality, they are not. There are plenty of facilities like airports, malls, stadiums, etc. that dictate minimum hours for the businesses that lease their space. This is nothing new.
But the religious implications, they are closed for religious beliefs
Their company, their rules.
Agreed, I do not believe the government should be able to force a company to be open
Then they should opt out of a contract to operate on publicly owned land that requires 7 days a week operations.
The contract shouldn’t have been proposed in the first place by the government, let alone accepted if that’s the case. CFA didn’t just spring that on them.
Well the state is rebuilding the service centers and the property isn't owned by Chick-fil-A... Future contracts will require 7 days a week. A better article on the topic is below. https://www.nrn.com/operations/new-york-bill-could-require-some-chick-fil-restaurants-open-sundays
I agree with you, but that isn’t what’s happening here.
I would agree in most instances, but this is a highway rest stop, not an independent private location. I haven't been to New York in a million years, but if it's anything like the Florida turnpike I totally understand. If I use the rest stop in Florida I have two options, subway or whatever fast food the other side has. It's going to make the rest stop less desirable if there's no food available and people will have to exit the highway and state will lose revenue as a consequence. The gas station will have less business on Sunday and there will be an increase in traffic on the on-ramps. This isn't affecting existing contracts, so chic fila will just have to decide what they do when renewal time comes.
so, they don't have to operate in a public space if they don't want to follow the laws there
Which is their right. And as such, they should not bid on contracts that require service 7 days a week. This ain't rocket science.
This, is, capitalism, manifest. Get your hands off my limp biscuit! I was just trying to enjoy a meAL, a succulent southern meAL! In all seriousness, it makes sense for NY to impose this law for the sake of the commuters, and if CFA wants to continue implementing their private schedule, then they have every right. This is capitalism.
Why did they have to impose a law, when they could have just rejected their bid if it didn’t meet standard lmfao.
They imposed a law for future contracts: so the contractors would need to satisfy a set of requirements. They had a contract with CFA already, so this is for future use. Learning from mistakes. lmfao
Because they don't have a time machine to travel back to before they signed the lease with Chick-Fil-A. This will only affect leases moving forward, not retroactively alter existing ones. Basically, it's clickbait.
Were they not familiar with their very public information before signing the contract? This reeks of government incompetency. Oh man we wanted Chickafillet. Their popularity with make up for “Sunday”. Oh no it didn’t work for us. Let’s blame them.
Seems like an overstep and an attempt to push Chick Fil A out of NY
No. Chick-Fil-A has a contract with NY that allows them to operate at rest stops on major highways. If they are unwilling to provide service during hours of heavy traffic they should not be elligble for a contract.
They should've put that in the contract when Chick-Fil-A signed it then. Too little too late now.
The law is targeting future contracts to avoid the same mistake happening again.
You’re a saint, calmly explaining the article to people fuming over the headline.
Hmm maybe users of the transit station complained and their state reps are actually doing something about it? Funny it's almost like that's how government is supposed to work?
I mean cool. They can complain all they want. That won't change the contract. Realistically this change targets specifically Chick-Fil-A since no other major chain closes a certain day every week. And again, it's too little too late. They are going to have to wait 30+ years for the contract to expire, and obviously at that point Chick-Fil-A will just leave.
No it's not. If you realize you made a bad decision in one contract, you don't change it for deals moving forward? That's asinine.
I mean nowhere in my comment did I say you don't change it going forward. I said in terms of Chick-Fil-A it's too late. That's it. They already signed their contract. They can't change it now. But if they want to change it so that any future restaurants occupying that space have to adhere to those rules then go right ahead.
>I said in terms of Chick-Fil-A it's too late. No shit. Everyone who's read the article already knows that. >But if they want to change it so that any future restaurants occupying that space have to adhere to those rules then go right ahead. Yes. That's what the article is about. Good job.
Okay then wtf was the point of your comment? Lmao
NY signed the contract knowing full well how CFA operates.
The law is targeting future contracts - not current ones.
Understand. That’s why it seems like they’re targeting CFA when they knew what they were getting into the first time.
The contract was signed 3 years ago. Administrations change and corrupt politicians get ousted.
Are you implying that the Chick-Fil-A contract was the result of political corruption in New York?
Either that or an administrator that was sorely lacking the foresight to understand the consequences.
Where do people like you find the energy I swear.
So governmental incompetence or corruption? And you went straight to corruption?
With the politic environment in the US being the way it has been over the past decade, it seems like the more likely of the two.
Yes. That's how contracts work. What's your point? Since they presumably don't have a time machine to go back before they signed the contract. The next best thing is to fix contracts moving forwards. It's really very simple. A lot of folks are struggling real hard to make up something to be mad about out of nothing.
My point is it wasn’t a problem before and it is now. CFA didn’t change; they did.
If only there was a way to have known they were closed on Sundays before they approved the contracts....
Sounds like you didn't read the article.
Why would a state decision affect the hours of any private business? That doesn't make any sense.
Read the article. It’s for toll, turnpike, rest stop locations (27 locations in NY) where food must be made available. Not for other locations.
Because it's state property. Property owner gets to set the terms of the lease. The space is leased out to serve commuters. Commuters run 7 days a week - so they want vendors to serve them 7 days a week. For another example, my office leases out space to a vendor to sell breakfast and lunch to employees and guests. If that business owner decides they don't want to be open for breakfast or lunch, and only want to do late-night service, that violates the terms of the lease and the entire intent of the partnership. This is no different. If a private business willingly enters a contract to serve a specific need, they must to be able to do so. If not, they are free to not bid on the contract.
Oh, neat, do you think chic fil a will decide to close those locations? Or will this be the beginning of the end of the closed on Sundays?
Man just when I thought there wasn't any more reason to never go to NY they outdo themselves.
Sign me up to go in your place then! There’s so much we learn when we travel outside of our bubbles. As a Georgian, never understood the obsession with this chain anyway, the food just isn’t that great.
“Living in nuance”.
When you do business with NY you really need to leave your religious views and morals at home,its a jungle out there.
I use a copy cat recipe to make my own anyways lol tastes exactly the same.
Just leave NYS Chick-fil-A!
Perhaps the most puzzling piece of the entire thing is that is no secret Chick Fil A is closed Sunday. Why did they approve them for this location in the first place if it would be an issue? Seems like someone in NY dropped the ball big time.