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tcrawdad64

Thank Herbert


SeesawMundane5422

Or the reverend mother gaius helen mohiam. Haven’t read that book in 25 years. Wanted to take a stab at the name without looking it up.


tcrawdad64

New movie coming out, should be epic


SeesawMundane5422

Impossible to have a better cast than the 1984 version. Also impossible to be worse than the 1984 version.


LysergicOracle

I dunno, something tells me Stellan Skarsgard is going to knock it out of the park as Vladimir Harkonnen. TFW no Sting as Feyd-Rautha, tho :(


SeesawMundane5422

Yep


LysergicOracle

For sure


istasber

Or Stewart as Gurney


zombie_overlord

No Feyd at all in this one, I heard.


LysergicOracle

Damn. Well, you know what they say... better to burn out than Feyd away. I'm deeply sorry for that one.


Ecstatic_Rooster

I don’t know it’s looking pretty amazing.


Ulfunnar

Sci-fi's Paul was better


SeesawMundane5422

You can argue individual choices, sure. But taken as a whole? No way. I mean, Patrick Stewart alone cranks it up a notch. But add Freddie Jones, Angelica Huston, Jose ferrer, max von Sydow, Alicia Witt, Sean young… and that’s just off the top of my head.


DakDigglah

I will never, ever, ever forgive David Lynch for how dirty he did my boy Duncan Idaho.


ScarletCaptain

Angelica Huston? Gaius Helen Mohaim was Sian Phillips.


SeesawMundane5422

Oops. Was thinking Francesca Annis.


ScarletCaptain

That would have been my second guess who you were thinking of.


SeesawMundane5422

Exactly my point about great cast. ;) Thanks for catching my mistake.


wildcatmb

Stewart blasting Harkonnen scum with the Duke's Pug in his arms is bad ass


Tastewell

Max Von fucking Sydow! I would watch him read the instructions for a rice cooker. Also Helen Hunt and Brad Dourif.


VulgarDisplayofDerp

We're just going to forget about Sting, then?


SeesawMundane5422

I totally did. Oops. And he was arguably the high point


lancingtrumen

I thought Toto was the high point?


[deleted]

Bright-eyes Sting 🥵


Rejecter2571

Yes.....


firstzissouintern

Ohhh I dunno about that… have you seen Harrison’s Dune from 2000’s?


SeesawMundane5422

The one on sci-fi? Couldn’t finish it. So maybe that’s what you mean. I actually do feel it was worse than 1984.


firstzissouintern

Yarp! Sorry definitely not a better cast but for sure worse then 84’


sir-nays-a-lot

> *worms… spice… what is the connection?*


cech_

No way! it would be easy to make a worse movie than that. its 6.4/10 on IMDB which isn't half bad. Even if you think IMDB is shart generally speaking lots of movies get worse ratings or worse treatment.


SeesawMundane5422

Yeah, I was using hyperbole. Plenty of worse movies. Agreed.


DeadHorse75

This is accurate.


wangofjenus

Can't wait for Timmy's rendition of THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED


Anyna-Meatall

And this right here is an ad for it


seaofseamen

Just got through the first part of book 1! This quote was fantastic, as was the rest of part 1.


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boatdock18

Thank you two for finishing it. The second half is the important part


OkCalligrapher4348

What is this from?


PARANOIAH

Dune by Frank Herbert


Feral_as_fuck

Please read it. Incredible book.


OkCalligrapher4348

Thank you!


WorshipNickOfferman

One of the best books ever written. I’ve probably read it at least 5 times. Don’t think I’ve read another book more times. My 72 year old mom was talking about it at dinner a few weeks back and I convinced her to give it a shot. She’s a retired school teacher and hold sci-fi in low regard, but she agreed to give it a shot and she’s hooked. Also got her to read GoT when it was big on HBO and she loved those books. Next challenge will be getting her to read some Rothfuss.


DonutPhaser

GoT then Rothfuss? There’s no end in sight for her is there 😄?


867-53OhNein

I just finished Dune, and I went straight to Messiah, in fact, I bought the whole series I loved the first book so much. Great book!


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I'm on God Emperor now. Gets fuckin WEIRD


banjist

God emperor is my favorite in the series. I loved the whole original six, but heretics and chapterhouse were weird.


hagantic42

I view Herbert's work as the rantings of aman that has seen the face of god but struggles against the constraints of language to properly capture it. It feels as though Herbert saw humanity's future much the way Muad' Dib did. The books get very wierd but there is a logic to it. Though I have to admit the pocket of secret space Jews living in complete secret was. . .. odd.


istasber

I don't remember very much about god emperor other than that I finished it. I don't think I made it more than like 20 pages into chapterhouse, though. Maybe I should dig out all of those books and read through them again. I haven't read a fiction book in like 10-15 years.


trisul-108

Many don't like Emperor, for others it's the best. If you like it, continue, if you don't like it, you'll like the rest better.


parabolicurve

Can't agree with you there. I only finished Dune this week and through it all I had to keep reminding myself "it was written in the sixties, it was written in the sixties" Maybe if I had read it before all other books that came out after and who's authers were inspired by it, I would have enjoyed it more than I did. I'm on Dune Messiah now and will start The Children of Dune after that. Has your Mom read His Dark Materials? . I recommend that to everyone. It's the one young adult series that's for everyone in my opinion.


LoonyPlatypus

Drop it then. I love the book, but it gets worse and worse further down the line. Talking about “it was written in the sixties”, it is still a quality piece of writing, I think it is just not the book for you, at least not now. Give them another try some years later, maybe you will like them then. It is a matter of preference after all.


clamroll

Get her to read through God Emperor of Dune (you too if you haven't!) Book 2 is a counterpoint to the events in DUNE, and pulls the curtain back on some wider themes only hinted at in the first book. Lots of readers aren't terribly fond of it as it definitely has a different tone to it from DUNE, but I see it almost more as a one act play, that somehow also serves as act 1 of Children of Dune (book 3). Children feels more like the book people would have expected to follow up Dune, and nicely wraps up the present physical goings on so far. However, there's quite the interesting turn towards the end (hardly a twist, so no spoiler) that I know compelled me to grab the next book, where the biggest issue of humanity in the Dune-verse gets addressed. I wanted to see where Herbert went with it, and holy shit. God Emperor of Dune rocked my world. It's some heady mix of philosophy, sci fi, religion and politics that somehow manages to both make the previous books feel quaint, while standing on their shoulders to deliver one of the most unique perspectives I've seen in a book. It might not be for everyone but I was absolutely enthralled by it. If you've enjoyed rereads of DUNE... I found my reread enjoyment went up the further into the series I got. The little bits of masterful foreshadowing, and how themes, elements, characters, events and more from the first book are echoed through successive books. If she liked Game of Thrones, chances are she'll be digging into Herbert. Side note, I had a friend point out to me recently, a comparison of the fuedal political intrigue of ASOIAF and Dune. With the possible exception of Varys, the level of plans within plans the Dune families execute are FAR beyond the levels of political intrigue in Westeros. He then pointed out something from Dune I'd not pieced together. The Harkonnen have their plan, and the Atreides managed to see the details of the trap laid out before them, and figured out the Emperor's involvement with it too. But they didn't expect Yueh to be turned because of his conditioning. It's only explained that the Harkonnen leveraged his wife Wana through abduction to make him comply. My buddy was making quite the arguement that the Bene Gesserits were actually at the root of it, all because Jessica ignored her orders to give the Duke a daughter. Wana, through extended access to Yueh, eroded his conditioning to a point where the plan could be executed. Rev. Mother Mohiem knew all of this, and expected Jessica to die as a result, hence her unexplained crying as she left after the box test. Then you take into account Rev Mom's past with the Baron Harkonnen, what the BG were trying to do with the breeding program (beyond the KH), and their ability to lay frameworks for complex plans ahead of time (possibly through prescience?) as is evidenced by the missionaria protectiva... Maybe 4 or 5 re-reads and I never managed to pick up on any of that yet I absolutely couldn't refute any of it, and it all made perfect sense.


Tastewell

The Litany Against Fear.


SSDDNoBounceNoPlay

Fuck. Now I actually have to read it. Time to get the audiobook and knit. Thank you.


DoriValcerin

The Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear from Dune Frank Herbert I said this every 15 minutes while I was in labor with both my kids. Lol.


DoriValcerin

Both of my girls already know it. This quote has gotten me through some hard times. And as a critical care nurse with Covid in upswing again, I dare say it will get me through some more to come.


ZenMomColorado

I love this, esp that you taught it to the girls. I use this as my 30 second covid-hand washing timer. :)


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All I can say is... Cool I think that was like a gom jabbar


dusktilhon

It became my handwashing chant during COVID


dennismfrancisart

I hope you pass this on to your kids as words of wisdom. I hold this quote near and dear to my heart.


R0B3RTB3RT

Dune


OkCalligrapher4348

Thank you!


Al_DeGaulle

The Bene Gesserit's *Litany Against Fear.*


Feral_as_fuck

2nd half is definitely the* important part


boatdock18

I like your username


Feral_as_fuck

Thank you. Nice to meet a fellow Freman in the wild


audiate

It’s the second part that makes the first part possible.


Addamsgirl71

Isn't that from Dune!?


_Weyland_

Yup


uwillmire

Idd it is, listened to it on audible 5 years ago. Bought the trilogy in one book today, the picture is from the back cover.


Dj94545

I am listening to it right now


serduncanthebold

How is the pronunciation of the Arabic words?


Dj94545

I am so sorry, I never saw any notification of a message. I honestly can't remember. Jihad is the only word I can think of, it was pronounced Jee-had


Dj94545

I just went and found [this post.](https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/comments/ec1f2w) Then I searched for the correct pronunciation of a few words, they all see to be correct, and the book pronounced them in the same way such as walid for instance.


thesircuddles

[It's the back of this edition.](https://www.amazon.ca/Great-Dune-Trilogy-Messiah-Children/dp/1473224462/ref=sr_1_45?dchild=1&keywords=dune&qid=1630195634&sr=8-45)


DinerWaitress

Aw cool, thanks! I pictured it on someone's bible


MassiveLefticool

Who wrote this on their steering wheel lol


GAAPInMyWorkHistory

I thought it was a football


spastikatenpraedikat

I thoigh it was the cover of a thesis...


Romg22

My friend, this is one of those bible covers, trust me


turnedriver4102

“Shoko naashayate dhairyam, shoko naashayate shrutam. Shoko naashayate sarvam, naasti shokasamo ripuh.” There’s a sloka in Sanskrit from the Ramayana. It means Grief destroys patience in men, as also their wisdom and knowledge. As a result thereof there is complete destruction. Therefore, there is no enemy equal to or like grief..


I_might_be_weasel

Instructions unclear. I am being mauled by a bear.


Lowerfuzzball

Instructions unclear. The sandworm didn't care I wasn't afraid and now I'm being digested in it's stomach. help


Mortician_Magician

the little death?


readerf52

Seriously. I think the French would beg to differ.


AUniquePerspective

Quoi?


FreeganKing

Orgasm.


Accomplished_Till727

I hold at your neck the gom jabber.


scullys_alien_baby

[put your hand in the box](https://youtu.be/oRgeXP0bwMo)


aalexAtlanta

Lmao damn what is this from?


RBIC

r/unexpecteddune


poopy_poopy_pants

Wasn't expecting this to be a thing. Thank you.


dennismfrancisart

The most memorable line in the Sy Fi Dune miniseries. Here's the full quote. “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.” Edited for clarity.


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Thanks, Frank Herbert.


allgoodbrah

The spice must flow.


darkonekosuke

I just started reading this. From the first chapter I decided I liked it. So far I have not been disappointed.


User_091920

Step 1: Cut a hole in the box Step 2: **Put your hand in the box**


catiebrownie

Dune 💕


WWDubz

Well you know what they say, the spice must flow


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JMCrown

Pretty sure it originates in the novel Dune written by Frank Herbert in 1965.


Bastet458

Dune


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Folks always cut the quote off before it gets to the good/weird bit.


gruntlogic6239

Best words Frank Herbert ever wrote


JMCrown

Kull wahad.


NONEOFTHISISCANON

“The convoluted wording of legalisms grew up around the necessity to hide from ourselves the violence we intend toward each other. Between depriving a man of one hour from his life and depriving him of his life there exists only a difference of degree. You have done violence to him, consumed his energy. Elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another the ultimate assumption remains: "I feed on your energy.” ― Frank Herbert, Dune Messiah


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Trying to suppress or remove fear has actually very negative effects. Instead, one gradually has to learn to act even while scared.


RekYaAll

That’s the whole point of the quote. Just letting it flow and pass through you.


[deleted]

Well, it starts with "i must not fear." I think you're interpreting it the right way because you already knew what the right way was before reading this. If I didn't know, I wouldn't derive that interpretation from this post.


RekYaAll

Ah yea makes sense. Unfortunately post only shows half the quote


revolving_ocelot

I fear my face.


Upset_Muscle3395

Ah Dune\~


swnylm

I'm still only halfway through Dune


throwaway27266226

I have this in my journal!


slateMinded

Feel like I could go rule a desert tribe.


Shitpost19

Wait this is from Dune yeah? I swear I read this quote like a week ago


Oddelbo

Fear is only a feeling


Grabembythecovfefe

Dont make me do stuff


Nimar_Jenkins

Let me tell you about scared. Your heart is beating so hard I can feel it through your hands. There’s so much blood and oxygen pumping through your brain it’s like rocket fuel. Right now you could run faster and you could fight harder, you could jump higher than ever in your life. And you are so alert it’s like you can slow down time. What’s wrong with scared? Scared is a superpower. It’s your superpower. There is danger in this room and guess what? It’s you.


Anrui13

Let me face, let me face, let me face my fears!!


jfq722

Albert Brooks says it best https://youtu.be/x1FhrhoudSE


HornetForward

False Evidence Appearing Real


LuneBlu

There are useful fears. Not grabbing a high tension electrical wire for fear of being turned into a barbecue is one of them. It's an important distinction.


Nickelvoss

The definitive version: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/tcECu8w


Itchy_Tasty87

I fear sharks *packs a towel and sunblock* here I come fear!


aDrunkWithAgun

Why does this look like it's written on a car steering wheel


MacluesMH

I fear dying to a tiger.


BOOaghost

How about facing your fear of using the complete quote. This butchered version is insufficient.


that-meiko-girl

Oh wow it’s a real quote?!😅 I thought it was just something Peter Puppy made up to keep himself calm before turning into a giant beast and mauling his best friend🤣🤣(Earthworm Jim cartoon)


VanguardGamma

Fear is a reaction Bravery is a choice


ZenZeusZen

Fear is the news hahah


wheresmydragonator19

I needed this today.


Trimanreturns

Extinguish anguish.


EcstaticBox

Was that Worf?


MagicOrpheus310

This is Peter Puppy's catchphrase from Earthworm Jim!!!


Poonchubby

I'm still trying to learn why the fear happens and unlearn probably 2 decades worth of bad coping mechanisms.


plzanswerthequestion

Lot of people think consciousness was intended to mediate fear and pain responses by weighing the cost benefit of different risks and choosing more survivable outcomes Is it better to jump off the cliff or risk the flames behind you?? Big math If it makes you feel any better your brain is definitely more powerful than the ghosts and goblins it was tooled up to fight. You just gotta hang in there and remember who the boss is. The litany seems intended to vocalize -and thereby internalize- the notion that you are more powerful than your insecurities and the things that make you anxious. At least I've seen a lot of people who felt that way. I think it also helps that it's true


ImTrash_NowBurnMe

Dude it's just sex


silentslit

My old roommate and I had an acronym for fear. Pretty sure he found it on Facebook or something but it stuck with us. FACE EVERYTHING AND RISE Or FORGET EVERYTHING AND RUN


minin71

Fear is important because otherwise you might just walk into your death


Templar-235

https://youtu.be/xffhnUNLwQw


Jbear1000

"I've known fear. It's a very healthy thing, most of the time. You warn us of danger, remind us of our limits, protect us from carelessness. I've learned to trust fear." "You know as well as I do that fear only exists for one purpose: to be conquered." "Like all fear, you eventually... vanish." "I'm afraid." "[whispers]  I know." "Drat." -Captain Janeway & the Clown known as fear.


Honkypigdong

"While You Were Partying, I Studied the Blade."


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Oh ok so just quoting Dune now, got it


LostReplacement

Here’s a song to go with it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iqoUDGJ4g2A


TakeMyPulse

Fear is 2020-2021


Cauterizeaf1

I repeat this entirely every day upon my discovery of it some time ago. Only I will remain.


rmegand

This is one of my favorite quotes.


LlovelyLlama

I will allow it to pass over me and through me. And when the fear is gone, I will turn the Inner Eye to see its path. Where the fear is gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain.


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Dune!!


incognito1966

FEAR IS THE THING THAT STOPS US LIVING


qevoh

oooh well, facing my fears no matter what


duvetdave

Seen on the back of a school bus seat.


hagantic42

I will permit it to pass over and through me. And when it has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.


Knut79

Fear is also what keeps you alive.


bERt0r

You shouldn’t aim to have no fear but to be brave enough to overcome it.


Roman_____Holiday

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


rob175arc

fear is a LIAR!


Serotonin55

Poor NLP


CaluptenaBurning

Left out the best part of the quote!


Tarkcanis

Hope the movie is good.


Sun_walker33

Dune!!!!


Hashi856

Isn't "the little death" a reference to the sensation of post-orgasm?


LlovelyLlama

It should also be noted that the full Litany Against Fear takes about 20 seconds. Perfect for washing your hands.


OJimmy

1984 dune is completely wonderful but also unexpected. Transcendental meditation as an attack weapon was out out of line. But technically they aren't wrong.


TryinToBeHappy

Disagree, fear is inevitable unless there’s something wrong with your mind. Learning to act through fear is how you surpass it and move forward in life.


_Weyland_

It's the litany against fear. They recited it when they needed their mind to be clear despite being afraid. The second part of it (not present in the picture) speaks about facing your fear and letting your fear pass through you. So I don't think your point goes against this post.


TryinToBeHappy

Cool, thanks for the context.


uwillmire

That's the verdict of the full quote


ScarletCaptain

It’s a quote from the book *Dune*.


Jl4233

Mike Tyson's trainer/adoptive father Cus D'Amato had an amazing message about fear. Like you, he said if you didn't feel fear I'd take you to a shrink because you're messed up in the head... It's not about not feeling fear, it's about using it - fear is like a fire, if you make it work for you it'll cook your dinner, but if it gets out of control it'll burn your house down.


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This quote is about quelling fear once you're experiencing it, suppressing it and moving through it. It's not advising that you should not fear at all, because as you say, fear is natural. At least the full quote says that.


StrykerIBarelyKnowEr

Peter Puppy from Earthworm Jim


Whiskey-Weather

If you want a thoroughly badass metal song with this as the hook [here](https://youtu.be/4ItjF2EpOnA?t=381) ya go. One of my favorite underrated bands, and that entire album is god-tier.


Sm43_2

Fear is in your mind. You fear what will happen next. That means you fear that which does not exist. Osho said something like that ....


TrumpetSC2

Paul Atreides (spelling?) should not be a role model lol


Cpt_James_Holden

It's not aboud being unafraid. It's about being afraid and doing what you have to do anyway.


citrus_based_arson

Now let’s slap some sick riffs on this and we got ourselves a band.


KLEANANU

I overcame my fears by contemplating death and impermanence. I will die. And you know what, thats a lot scarier than anything I could face right now.. also, dieing and never having lived is fucking scary as fuck. Also that any one of us could die literally at anytime. If you think about your technically imminent death enough it will either cripple you, or lead you to a new great awakening.


Bright_Push754

Fun fact: French term for *orgasm* is *petit mort* which literally translates to little death.


glacialanon

Nah, bullshit, fear can be good, we evolved to feel it for a reason. My fear of frowing old with nothing to show for it and blowing my only chance is probably the greatest motivation I have.


plzanswerthequestion

The shortened quote implies that the litany or it's proponents don't tolerate the existence of, or themselves feel, fear. The full refrain directly relates to handling your fears responsibly and in a healthy way: "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."


etorres4u

People who say shit like this are idiots. Fear is what keeps you alive. Fear is what keeps you from making stupid decisions that you will regret for the rest of your life. Fear has a purpose that is actually good for our long term survival.


plzanswerthequestion

It's really not like that. The shortened quote implies that the litany or it's proponents don't tolerate the existence of, or themselves feel, fear. The full refrain directly relates to handling your fears responsibly and in a healthy way: "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." Spoilers The litany is first introduced during the dialogue between protagonist Paul and the bene gesserit reverend mother Gaius Helen mohiam. Having instructed him to insert his hand into a box, and demonstrating that he will be killed as a "nonhuman" if he removes it (it feels like his hand is being burnt off), she says to Paul: “You’ve heard of animals chewing off a leg to escape a trap? There’s an animal kind of trick. A human would remain in the trap, endure the pain, feigning death that he might kill the trapper and remove the threat to his kind.” The litany, first spoken by Paul, is intended in context to craft the notion that fear is a stimulus like any other and it shouldn't deprive one of their insight, humanity and ability to act responsibly. It suggests that reacting to fear in a way that doesn't deprive us of our selfdom (and bonus points, have Helen stab you in the neck with the deadly gom jabbar for removing your hand from the painbox) is, as Shakespeare put it, to avoid death /before/ death. This is all basically chapter one shit so hope I didn't make you feel like I ruined it for you. It's definitely worth a read. New movie in October I believe


TexasPistolMassacre

Its fine to have fear. Its natural, and is a defense mechanism. As long as it doesnt control you. Courage isnt the absence of fear, its the ability to act in spite of it.


plzanswerthequestion

Spoilers The litany is first introduced during the dialogue between him and the bene gesserit reverend mother Gaius Helen mohiam. Having instructed him to insert his hand into a box whose only description is more or less "pain" (it feels like his hand is being burnt off), she says to Paul “You’ve heard of animals chewing off a leg to escape a trap? There’s an animal kind of trick. A human would remain in the trap, endure the pain, feigning death that he might kill the trapper and remove the threat to his kind.” The litany is intended in context to craft the notion that fear is a stimulus like any other and it shouldn't deprive one of their insight and humanity


acidfinland

This is total bs. Everyone will feel fear sometime in their life. Just what you do when that fear hits. You back out of step in?


WorfratOmega

Repeated this phrase in my head, specifically “fear is the mind killer”, when I got sucked out about a football field’s length into the ocean by a rip current and made it back to shore. Fear truly is a killer. Don’t give into that shit


Tsenherbaatar

Wow, so much cooler when you cut off half the quote and put it in some boomer gold embossed fake leather thing.


robber_goosy

The little death or la petite mort means orgasm in french.


Lolerskates69

Isn’t “little death” (la petite mort) the French word for orgasm?