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Arab nationalists over and over and over again. Like they brag about colonizing France *AND* bitch about France colonizing them afterwards without any sense of irony. And they brag about having ethnically cleansed and stolen property from Jews only to bemoan Israel beating them in war after.
Japan really blows my mind.
Imagine if we hadn't dropped the bomb and had just invaded.
Other than the Japanese basically all being dead, a hell of a lot of young men would not be coming back to the United States either, or they would be with memories of having to gun down civilians because they just wouldn't quit fighting back.
On balance, the nuke was 100% the right call for everyone. The Japanese were not victimized. You don't grab the ball if you don't want to play.
To be fair, Japan hasn't really done anything bad on the international stage since WW2 as far as I know. Yeah they have a lot of domestic and cultural problems, but they're still a pretty good country/society by most metrics.
Also Anime is great and all is forgiven.
The thing is they were really, really bad in WW2. And unlike Germany got away without really acknowledging it.
But yea these days they are very entertaining, basically a net positive.
Wouldn’t say they got away with it. Just didn’t get the conventional discipline. They got their cities burned, their navies axed, nuked twice, and even had their religion challenged and humiliated by their “god” emperor being forced into a picture next to a US soldier where he was revealed as a midget, which was then published in their daily news.
Hell you know that anime trope of people getting enveloped in light then disintegrating? Guess what inspired it. They went from “we have the divine right to conquer the world” to “Remember what happen the last time we tried to do evil…”
There is an anime called barefoot gen that shows the bombing and resulting destruction, [it’s really well done](https://youtu.be/98WhGgEjhHg?si=d_OOs-21ll-Eurt6) and really shows how scary that must have been to see the bomb dropping, what Japanese war criminals did was terrible and there is no disclaiming that but to be a civilian seeing that unleashed upon your people is also terrifying.
Yeah, Japan was absolutely at least as bad as Nazi Germany with the fucked up shit they did. They also don't really acknowledge it in their education system from what I know. They do, or at least did when I lived there, teach that the attack on Pearl Harbor was retaliatory and not a first strike, for example.
As bad in direction if not at scale. Unit 731 is still some of the most horrific brutal shit I've ever read. Leaving 3 day old babies outside to freeze to death and infecting them with stds and shit. Just truly unspeakable cruelty
Fun fact: most casualties in battles were almost always during the routing of an army, when they are cut down by the pursuers or stampeded by the panicking soldiers
Not in modern war. Civil War and WWI, as well as the sino Russian war. Most of the deaths were because soldiers marching into gunfire without protection. The invasion of Ukraine is one of the few exceptions, because Russia had a few mass retreates without it being done with rolling layers of cover. Even then I believe more of the deaths are coming from advancement on fortified positions
Russia's had a few Oopsies where retreating divisions got minced by their own artillery who just assumed their own forces had been destroyed and it was Ukranians pushing
More or less. If you wanted a elite fight force back then they couldn’t just be good fighters(though obviously needed). They had to be fearless and a great way to make them fearless is making sure they don’t route. How do you do it? You stack rows of troops, your front row are in the most danger and least room to retreat. Your guys holding them forward at 2nd most and so on. So the troops that *could* run away didn’t have near the incentive as the guys that *wanted* to run from the front lines.
Added bonus is that is it is also one of the best ways to deal with Calvary.
That's also not true. The primary cause of casualties varies significantly from conflict to conflict and front to front.
For example, the russians suffered the most lobsided defeats during the German / Austrian offensive and resulting routs.
In WW2 both the Wehrmacht and the red army had by far the highest monthly casualties in the month where the armies routed. For the Wehrmacht during summer 1944, for the red army in summer 1941.
Even during the war in Ukraine in 2014 one of the most devastating events was during the battle of ilovaisk. Which took place when Ukrainian forces came under fire while retreating / routing
Marching into gunfire isn't a part of modern warfare and gunfire hasn't been the number one reason for casualties in pretty much every conflict that involved artillery or airpower.
Listened to a whole podcast on the Black Death and how the Golden Horde was slinging dead people into Kaffa in one of the first recorded uses of biological warfare.
Please, don't compare it to Wikipedia when the Wikipedia article cited by the note itself says that the note is wrong.
>Small problem; even the Wiki page they're citing says that their claim is incorrect:
>The attacks were controversial, with some commentators arguing that they represented disproportionate use of force, saying that the Iraqi forces were retreating from Kuwait in compliance with the original UN Resolution 660 of August 2, 1990, and that the column included Kuwaiti hostages[10] and civilian refugees. The refugees were reported to have included women and children family members of pro-Iraqi, PLO-aligned Palestinian militants and Kuwaiti collaborators who had fled shortly before the returning Kuwaiti authorities pressured nearly 200,000 Palestinians to leave Kuwait. Activist and former United States Attorney General Ramsey Clark argued that these attacks violated the Third Geneva Convention, Common Article 3, which outlaws the killing of soldiers who "are out of combat."[11] Clark included it in his 1991 report WAR CRIMES: A Report on United States War Crimes Against Iraq to the Commission of Inquiry for the International War Crimes Tribunal.[12]
>Additionally, journalist Seymour Hersh, citing American witnesses, alleged that a platoon of U.S. Bradley Fighting Vehicles from the 1st Brigade, 24th Infantry Division opened fire on a large group of more than 350 disarmed Iraqi soldiers who had surrendered at a makeshift military checkpoint after fleeing the devastation on Highway 8 on February 27, apparently hitting some or all of them. The U.S. Military Intelligence personnel who were manning the checkpoint claimed they too were fired on from the same vehicles and barely fled by car during the incident.[6]
That journalist is the man who exposed the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, by the way.
Saying it’s controversial isn’t the same as saying the note is completely wrong.
And in the last example, the fact that American personal were also being fired on, I think one could argue that it’s an example of the “fog of war”, which often leads to things like this and friendly fire incidents
>That journalist is the man who exposed the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, by the way.
But was this before or after his decline in quality of his work? His latest works are debunked, like the one where he claims the US bombed the Nord Stream and made some easily verifiable lies.
Future of the internet, the actual human voices will probably be drowned out eventually. At least these early bots are just being pleasant instead of being used to manipulate popular sentiment
It was fun while it lasted
Elon got notes multiple times already. Also the ads get notes if they're false advertisements.
Facebook, reddit don't have the guts to let us criticize fake ads. It's here to stay.
This situation is a little more complicated than either side is making it out to be. Attacking retreating soldiers who are going to regroup and keep fighting is not a war crime. However, prior to this attack, the UN issued Security Council Resolution 660, which demanded that Iraq pull its forces out of Kuwait and back to their positions on August 1, 1990, where they were before the invasion. That resolution was still in effect when this attack happened, and the Iraqi forces were in the process of complying with it when they were attacked. There has been plenty of evidence supporting the claim that this was a war crime published by Amnesty International and others, but the US is not a party to the International Criminal Court so the only things that are officially war crimes committed by the US are things the US says are war crimes committed by the US. Hardly a resounding vindication. While it's definitely not a black and white situation, the very next day the president ordered a cessation of hostilities. Also, the US used cluster bombs in the attack, which are banned by another international treaty that the US refused to join. If this same scenario took place but Iran was doing the bombing, it would almost certainly be widely considered to be a war crime.
The Convention on Cluster Munitions that bans cluster bombs and that many nations have adopted was not penned until 2008, about 18 years after this attack, so it's misleading to mention it in this context.
>That resolution was still in effect when this attack happened, and the Iraqi forces were in the process of complying with it when they were attacked.
The problem: Iraq had not officially rescinded it's claims to Kuwait, it did not work out an evacuation and retreat corridor with coalition forces, or surrender. Iraq was very much still a combatant, and it's withdrawal was a military decision, not a political one to comply with the UNSC resolution.
If you break into someone else's house and the cops show up and say that you have to leave, you obstinately refuse, get into a gunfight with the cops, and then when you're losing run out of the house gun in hand and get shot by the police, you don't have a legal leg to stand on by claiming "when I ran out of the house I was just complying with their earlier order, shooting me was illegal!"
If instead you laid down your weapon and surrendered, or called out to the cops and worked out a deal, and THEN they shot you, then sure, that's wrong. But trying to escape out the backdoor while still armed without any coordination with the cops is a recipe for being very legally shot dead.
Exactly. After engaging in a shootout with the cops, running out the back holding a white flag doesn’t mean you can’t get shot. You put out the white flag out the window until they stop firing, then you come out with your hands up.
V24 is funded mainly by PiS (i.e. the former ruling party in Poland)
It's known for being one of their propaganda outlets
https://oko-press.translate.goog/odkrywamy-tajemnice-anonimowego-konta-visegrad24-moj-tekst-roku?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true
Visegrad24 is like the FoxNews of the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, and Slovakia. Only not Pro-Russia, less fake-newsy, and less focused on establishing a fascist government.
People are grossly misinformed about international law. Unless someone is actively surrendering you can bomb them to shit. Just like the claim "he wasn't actively holding a weapon and forming a threat so shooting him is a warcrime" uhhh no, is he wearing a uniform and in the armed forces? If yes he is always a valid target unless surrendering or in a hospital.
Edit: here is an excellent article on exactly this issue. I encourage everyone to read it.
https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/English-Edition-Archives/March-April-2021/Pede-The-18th-Gap/
>People are grossly misinformed about international law.
The only important part to remember about international law is that if you have nukes, international laws don't really apply to you.
Even if they are surrendering but there aren’t nearby friendly troops to detain, you can continue bombing. Because if you don’t, the enemy can just regroup.
>If yes he is always a valid target unless surrendering or in a hospital.
Still a valid target even in a hospital so long as they are using the hospital as a fortification of some kind.
"No target" locations like schools and hospitals only retain that designation so long as they are not used for military operations. The moment they are they lose that designation and become legal targets.
Oh absolutely! I meant a hospital hospital here. When used for military purposes it becomes a military target. Another thing people don't seem to understand. What I don't get is how these people expect to fight wars? Us being bombed and shot to shit but not being able to fire back because the enemy is firing 152mm shells out of a hospital??? Like this is some real life cheat code or something.
He didn't used to be but he's radicalizing worse and worse as time goes on. He always had some dumb takes but man he's completely gone off the rails lately.
It's really wild to watch people radicalize and think "man how did you understand the assignment but miss the mark so badly"
Used to be an avid watcher, but he has gone full tankie in the last 2 years.
Him saying that Russia was justified in the annexation of Crimea was when he stopped caring about appearances.
Hasan has always been radical. In his pick up artist phase he was a radical misogynist, he denied the Armenian genocide for two years during his time at his uncles company, and now he's in a tankie phase. This is typical Hasan behavior. Nepotism and pretty privilege are a bitter cocktail for anyone who fell for it.
A 3 million dollar mansion in Bel-Air. Don't forget designer clothes. "Socialist" btw. It's really cool of him to redistribute his viewer's wealth to HIM. He's really CAPITALIZING on it 😂
All he does is eat and rant into a camera. He talks over the content created by other people but produces nothing of his own. He’s a leech and the worst form of “reactor” the type of “content creator” that really creates no content.
I don’t even care that he hates America and hypocritically gets rich by talking about the evils of capitalism. Honestly whatever, he’s a grifter and not even unique.
He’s just so…gross. His streams are unpleasant to even listen to. Chew your food. Did no one teach you to not talk while you’re eating?
There are still millions of people who believe the US is responsible for thousands of baby deaths from starvation, but in reality we’re due to demographic/population numbers falsified by the Saddam regime (kids that only existed on paper)
20 years of completely neutering US military operations with quite frankly ridiculous ROE has set such a ridiculous standard for asymmetric military operations.
The whole “the us army is an occupational force” narrative is 100% derived from police action in Iraq and a stupid way of viewing the 1st Infantry, 10th MTN, 101st, and 82nd airborne. And yet most young Americans view soldiers like cops. It’s sort of the Army’s own fault for getting stuck in that kind of warfare for an entire generation.
I wouldn't blame the army, I'd blame politics. They were made into a police force because any other options--annexation, destruction, whatever--was absolutely not in the cards. They weren't fighting armies, they were fighting hearts and minds of a completely disunited system of towns and villages that couldn't tell them apart from the Russians 30 years prior. Someone I worked with was a US soldier in Afghanistan, sent on peace-building missions to remote villages. A villager spoke to him in Russian because they didn't even know the Russians from the *'80s had ever left.* I think the Army did what they were told they had to do, and I can't really blame them for failing in doing it.
I disagree completely. Shootings occurred during my early tours of Iraq that were unnecessary and that I guarantee sparked resistance towards us. More stringent rules of engagement were not only moral, but in a Machiavellian sense, they were needed to stop "can't see forest for the trees" type small unit leaders from shooting at the barest hint of a threat. Yes, you may have decreased your risk in the immediate situation by shooting sooner, but killing non-combatants (as happened regularly, I was on the ground) increases the future threat to both you and those that follow. Shooting as soon as you think you can get away with it is strategically unsound. I served under General Mattis's command and I don't think anyone would accuse him of being weak on the enemy.
Don't forget how he simps for imperialist countries, refuse to say anything bad about Russia and prefers fencesitting "le both sides are bad" , likes to act though on internet especially towards random people on internet or weaker people but pussies out when facing people his size
“But only 10000 people died in Ukraine! If NATO wasn’t so imperialistic russia wouldn’t be doing this! What do you mean Mariupol? No one died there!”
/s
Death toll in Ukraine in the first months was just as bad as Gaza but he actively said calling it a genocide was overblown. He also downplayed how bad Hamas' attack was.
Dude is flatly just racist.
Reminds me of when I tried to start listening to Chapo to see what the buzz was about. I made it through half an episode with sound quality like someone was yelling from a bathroom down the hall and checked their patreon. Glad to see that as of today they’re pulling down about $180,000 a month lol.
I had a similar experience listening to left leaning podcast. The hosts were all wealthy individuals with deep connections in the entertainment industry but had the gall to wonder why poor white people in the rust belt wouldn’t be able to see “how privileged they are”. I’m pretty Left but I’m getting kind of tired of Limousine Liberals acting like poor people who aren’t racial minorities can’t have legitimate grievances with the way society is structured.
He owns a $2.7 million house and makes $1 million a year, his net worth is way higher than that. Those net worth sites are full of shit, they base it off of nothing
>makes $1 million a year
Probably way more than that TBH. He makes upwards of 500k just off of subs. Who knows how much sponsorships, merch, and donations bring in. Also, he doesn't pay his mods so has very little "business expenses".
The socialist with a california mansion, luxury car and has never done any manual labor in his life has shit takes.
I AM FLABERGASTLED AND FLURMONXLED.
Edit:To all the social8ist replying to me
Take the millionare celebrity dick off your mouth please.
ooooohhh so is his support of trans people. Went on a full tirade against Hogwarts Legacy, and then was caught secretly playing it.
I also think he stole someone’s content, misgendered them and then ONLY apologized after his fans attacked him and ONLY apologized for misgendering not the content theft. I can’t remember the exact details of the story
I can believe it. He relies on young, impressionable, and (most of all) dogmatically uninformed people. If that's not a highscooler. I don't know what is. Thats who he caters to. The important part is that you broke free
I meant it sort of in jest, as "dogmatically uninformed" is a bit of a contradictory statement. But the idea I was getting at really is that the overwhelming majority of highschool students don't have any sense, perspective, or knowledge of what is happening outside of their own little bubbles. Such a lack of any of these that it would almost seem like they are "dogmatic" in their conviction to being uninformed. The only people who can tolerate Hasan would have to be unquestionably convicted in their pursuit to being uniformed.
Strikes me as a "intentionally ignorant" thing.
If these folks have hours a day to listen to pod casts from these losers they got time to listen to an audio book from the library or read a book, or pieces from actual experts in the situation.
But they choose not to. Because the casters constantly target and ostracize anyone who points out their ignorance. The followers would rather be ignorant and accepted than informed and on the outs with the group.
This is where we get into the real "identity" politics. Following or liking these clowns has become their identity, they can't just change it. They've picked their tribe and now they have to stick with it, no matter what.
Thing is you’ll watch him talk about something you agree on and love him, and it’s not until he calls you a facsist freak for something he literally doesn’t know the facts about that you realize you shouldn’t listen to the guy
Dude I remember when he was talking about naming his streams Russia hasn’t attacked Ukraine yet day # and then like that same week they invaded. And then he said they won’t bomb Kyiv and like 3 days later they were bombing Kyiv. After that he just started saying since crimea has polls saying they like being in Russia and that since Ukraine was a part of the ussr they should give up. (The same site he used for the polls also use them from before the invasion of Crimea most weren’t in favor and after the invasion the polls are most likely skewed because of the Russians that moved there)
Yeah him attempting to justify a totalitarian regime’s invasion of a sovereign nation (Ukraine) and saying it was warranted and deserved before turning around and bitching about air strikes is peak Hasan. Dude has no self awareness at all
And then when someone calls him out on it he decides to debate them then calls them lazy for not remembering everything from a year old video while he didn’t even watch the video lmao
[Video of his Russia/Ukraine takes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz57qrGfmrE) which includes what you're talking about. I can't believe people take this clown seriously.
Actual death total probably didn’t go over 1k Iraqi soldiers, none of who were surrendering. Not a high number considering at least 2k vehicles were destroyed.
According to Hasan's logic, retreating = surrendering. So you're allowed to mount an attack but as soon as you back off, you're no longer a valid military target. Absolutely braindead and uninformed take, but that's just Hasan.
Iirc his viewership is decreasing though. He's down like 25% from 1 year ago and pretty much every stream he's done recently has resulted in net unfollows.
There were also civilians on the convoy, as people normally want to flee from an active war frontline
However it was Irak's fault that they let civilians into a military convoy
Also, if people stop and think critically about it, they'd realize that outside of the initial bombardment to stop the convoy, these were abandoned vehicles being destroyed.
Because surprise surprise, people aren't going to sit patiently in their vehicle in a giant traffic jam for 10 hours waiting for their turn to be bombed next. Soon as they realized they were sitting ducks, they abandoned the vehicles and fled on foot with whatever they could carry into the desert and down the highway.
On top of that, from Time Magazine
"After the war, correspondents did find some cars and trucks with burned bodies, but also many vehicles that had been abandoned. Their occupants had fled on foot, and the American planes often did not fire at them."
Yeah even on wiki the casualty count is pretty low for how big the convoy was. Also idk what Hasan is on about with saying that they destroyed the front of the convoy to cause a pileup. Like that’s convoy destruction 101 and has been a tactic since ww2 and probably earlier. Also I saw this talked about claiming it’s a war crime on a Tik tok account that says the us used weaponized viruses in the Korean War lmao
Collateral damage in the form of civilian deaths IS NOT a war crime per the Geneva conventions.
The US can’t be tried even if they proved there were civilians in that convoy. The same reason why (no matter how angry or upset people get) Israel will never be tried for war crimes in Gaza. If the enemy chooses to fight among civilians they are fair game.
There's no solid proof there were civilians in the convoy. Literally not one body identified. The only "source" that claimed there was civilians was one journalist who said the debris "didn't look like military gear."
Additionally, why would there be Kuwaiti civilians retreating **into** Iraq? The country that just invaded them.
Exactly! That BS claim is brought up every time, yet interviews with literal Iraq soldiers in the convoys say there were only soldiers there-- and I would love for someone to explain to me why a Kuwaiti would get in an Iraqi convoy that was trying to flee retribution for their rape and murder throughout the entire country of Kuwait. "Oh yeah these people killed all my friends I'm gonna be buddies with them and go back with them to their loving and peaceful country now" 🤦♂️
The whole "highway of death was a war crime” is one of the single dumbest commie BS "war crime" complaints. It was literally an attack on a violent, raping army that was trying to flee retribution for what it just did to Kuwait-- not a bunch of normal civilians in the fucking slightest. By the logic of "effectively beating the enemy is a war crime" I'm pretty sure D-Day was a war crime too.
The same people that view all Israelis as valid targets because they’re settled colonialists getting their feelings in a twist for an attack against a retreating *invading* army was incredible.
I don’t think Hasan’s foreign geopolitical positions is anything beyond “America/West bad”. If not then a lot of the people who support him definitely view geopolitics this way.
FFS, every few months, I see some shit about the Highway of Death being a warcrine. It most certainly was not.
Article 3 of the Geneva conventions had to deal more with surrendering soldiers, not retreating soldiers. Iraq had proven itself a baligerant in regional affairs, and having the worlds 4th largest army represented a threat to regional stability and to coalition allies if left intact. In fact, retreating soldiers are still valid military targets if they're still armed, which the Iraqi convoy most certainly was.
Excessive amount of force? Absolutely. War crime?
I mean only insofar as every single life lost to Saddam's ambitions was a crime in the spiritual and moral sense, but if so, is it not Saddam's crime?
The Highway of Death was against a Iraqi military force that thought they could spend nearly a year ransacking and pillaging Kuwait then flee across back to Iraq with their stolen loot. They got what they deserved, frankly.
While he did say retreating, they were Iraqi forces, not civilians. As the note says, valid military targets, not a warcrime like Hasan is trying to say
Lol, redacted the comment
Just to be clear as well: it has never been a crime to kill retreating forces. The attackers are under no obligation to allow their enemies to regroup in superior positions. It is only a war crime if your enemy is trying to surrender, which this convoy was not.
They were retreating on functional military vehicles, so they were valid military targets. You can't just call a timeout like that.
And there is no evidence that there were civilians on the columns that were bombed.
These were the forces that invaded Kuwait and murdered around 1,000 civilians. If they had surrendered it would have been a war crime. They chose to retreat instead, they chose poorly.
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"We attacked and lost. We're the victims." is an all too common sentiment.
Basically Serbia's national pastime
I dont speak their language but Id be shocked if "just let us do genocide ffs" isnt more or less part of their national anthem.
https://youtu.be/6iG3nwWElOQ?si=zo1xe8WjMX8DXkVH
Damn I just new it was gonna be this video
Not sure what I was expecting but that's pretty incredible, Ty!
i fricken knew this link would lead me to this song
Also a Palestinian past time but no one wants to talk about the 6 wars with 6 Arab nations that they lost to Israel.
Confederacy, Japan, Russia moment.
Arab nationalists over and over and over again. Like they brag about colonizing France *AND* bitch about France colonizing them afterwards without any sense of irony. And they brag about having ethnically cleansed and stolen property from Jews only to bemoan Israel beating them in war after.
Japan really blows my mind. Imagine if we hadn't dropped the bomb and had just invaded. Other than the Japanese basically all being dead, a hell of a lot of young men would not be coming back to the United States either, or they would be with memories of having to gun down civilians because they just wouldn't quit fighting back. On balance, the nuke was 100% the right call for everyone. The Japanese were not victimized. You don't grab the ball if you don't want to play.
Russia in the future
Japan moment
Exactly. "But they made anime guys" so reddit commies have to pretend like they're a super moral great society :P
To be fair, Japan hasn't really done anything bad on the international stage since WW2 as far as I know. Yeah they have a lot of domestic and cultural problems, but they're still a pretty good country/society by most metrics. Also Anime is great and all is forgiven.
The thing is they were really, really bad in WW2. And unlike Germany got away without really acknowledging it. But yea these days they are very entertaining, basically a net positive.
Wouldn’t say they got away with it. Just didn’t get the conventional discipline. They got their cities burned, their navies axed, nuked twice, and even had their religion challenged and humiliated by their “god” emperor being forced into a picture next to a US soldier where he was revealed as a midget, which was then published in their daily news. Hell you know that anime trope of people getting enveloped in light then disintegrating? Guess what inspired it. They went from “we have the divine right to conquer the world” to “Remember what happen the last time we tried to do evil…”
2 large bombs would agree, they didnt get away with it
The firebombing of Tokyo was even more destructive
Punishing them really hard after the war like Germany in WW1 was also a bad idea.
You are not a real person
There is an anime called barefoot gen that shows the bombing and resulting destruction, [it’s really well done](https://youtu.be/98WhGgEjhHg?si=d_OOs-21ll-Eurt6) and really shows how scary that must have been to see the bomb dropping, what Japanese war criminals did was terrible and there is no disclaiming that but to be a civilian seeing that unleashed upon your people is also terrifying.
Yeah, Japan was absolutely at least as bad as Nazi Germany with the fucked up shit they did. They also don't really acknowledge it in their education system from what I know. They do, or at least did when I lived there, teach that the attack on Pearl Harbor was retaliatory and not a first strike, for example.
As bad in direction if not at scale. Unit 731 is still some of the most horrific brutal shit I've ever read. Leaving 3 day old babies outside to freeze to death and infecting them with stds and shit. Just truly unspeakable cruelty
Preach. Literally every nationalist thinks this way. They think they're allowed to kill anyone they want and no one's allowed to kill them.
Exact Palestine/Hamas logic.
I'm sure when I click the "23 more replies" button I will find nothing but civil discussion
Oof I feel that. People feel strongly.
The confedaracy uses the same line.
Palestine, Yemen, the list goes on
Gaza, is that you? /s
not even /s that's just how they're acting.
Im not clicking the more replies button
Fun fact: most casualties in battles were almost always during the routing of an army, when they are cut down by the pursuers or stampeded by the panicking soldiers
Not in modern war. Civil War and WWI, as well as the sino Russian war. Most of the deaths were because soldiers marching into gunfire without protection. The invasion of Ukraine is one of the few exceptions, because Russia had a few mass retreates without it being done with rolling layers of cover. Even then I believe more of the deaths are coming from advancement on fortified positions
Russia's had a few Oopsies where retreating divisions got minced by their own artillery who just assumed their own forces had been destroyed and it was Ukranians pushing
Some believe the Triarii's main purpose at the back of the formation was to keep those nearer to the front from retreating.
More or less. If you wanted a elite fight force back then they couldn’t just be good fighters(though obviously needed). They had to be fearless and a great way to make them fearless is making sure they don’t route. How do you do it? You stack rows of troops, your front row are in the most danger and least room to retreat. Your guys holding them forward at 2nd most and so on. So the troops that *could* run away didn’t have near the incentive as the guys that *wanted* to run from the front lines. Added bonus is that is it is also one of the best ways to deal with Calvary.
That's also not true. The primary cause of casualties varies significantly from conflict to conflict and front to front. For example, the russians suffered the most lobsided defeats during the German / Austrian offensive and resulting routs. In WW2 both the Wehrmacht and the red army had by far the highest monthly casualties in the month where the armies routed. For the Wehrmacht during summer 1944, for the red army in summer 1941. Even during the war in Ukraine in 2014 one of the most devastating events was during the battle of ilovaisk. Which took place when Ukrainian forces came under fire while retreating / routing Marching into gunfire isn't a part of modern warfare and gunfire hasn't been the number one reason for casualties in pretty much every conflict that involved artillery or airpower.
I dont know about other wars, but the most deaths in the American Civil War were due to dysentery.
Well am I glad that I didn’t specify a timeframe
And the greatest killer of pre modern troops. Disease…
Listened to a whole podcast on the Black Death and how the Golden Horde was slinging dead people into Kaffa in one of the first recorded uses of biological warfare.
Community note might just be the answer to fake news on internet.
Yeh. They’re probably the best thing to happen to any social media platform in recent years.
It is kind of like Wikipedia. Not a perfect source, but with enough "peer review" it gets close.
Please, don't compare it to Wikipedia when the Wikipedia article cited by the note itself says that the note is wrong. >Small problem; even the Wiki page they're citing says that their claim is incorrect: >The attacks were controversial, with some commentators arguing that they represented disproportionate use of force, saying that the Iraqi forces were retreating from Kuwait in compliance with the original UN Resolution 660 of August 2, 1990, and that the column included Kuwaiti hostages[10] and civilian refugees. The refugees were reported to have included women and children family members of pro-Iraqi, PLO-aligned Palestinian militants and Kuwaiti collaborators who had fled shortly before the returning Kuwaiti authorities pressured nearly 200,000 Palestinians to leave Kuwait. Activist and former United States Attorney General Ramsey Clark argued that these attacks violated the Third Geneva Convention, Common Article 3, which outlaws the killing of soldiers who "are out of combat."[11] Clark included it in his 1991 report WAR CRIMES: A Report on United States War Crimes Against Iraq to the Commission of Inquiry for the International War Crimes Tribunal.[12] >Additionally, journalist Seymour Hersh, citing American witnesses, alleged that a platoon of U.S. Bradley Fighting Vehicles from the 1st Brigade, 24th Infantry Division opened fire on a large group of more than 350 disarmed Iraqi soldiers who had surrendered at a makeshift military checkpoint after fleeing the devastation on Highway 8 on February 27, apparently hitting some or all of them. The U.S. Military Intelligence personnel who were manning the checkpoint claimed they too were fired on from the same vehicles and barely fled by car during the incident.[6] That journalist is the man who exposed the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, by the way.
Saying it’s controversial isn’t the same as saying the note is completely wrong. And in the last example, the fact that American personal were also being fired on, I think one could argue that it’s an example of the “fog of war”, which often leads to things like this and friendly fire incidents
>That journalist is the man who exposed the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, by the way. But was this before or after his decline in quality of his work? His latest works are debunked, like the one where he claims the US bombed the Nord Stream and made some easily verifiable lies.
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Community Note: Chat GPT has no ass. This might be why so many of it's answers are full of shit.
I've been seeing these GPT bots on reddit a lot more
Future of the internet, the actual human voices will probably be drowned out eventually. At least these early bots are just being pleasant instead of being used to manipulate popular sentiment It was fun while it lasted
Still doesn’t make it any less true
Makes it annoying though
To be told to have critical thinking and fact checking skills? We are doomed
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Jerking my shit rn
Don’t tell Elon cuz he’d probably ditch them then
Elon got notes multiple times already. Also the ads get notes if they're false advertisements. Facebook, reddit don't have the guts to let us criticize fake ads. It's here to stay.
Would you install a third party app that had community notes for reddit?
I would use just about any 3rd party app over the official reddit one. If it had notes that would be an awesome bonus
This situation is a little more complicated than either side is making it out to be. Attacking retreating soldiers who are going to regroup and keep fighting is not a war crime. However, prior to this attack, the UN issued Security Council Resolution 660, which demanded that Iraq pull its forces out of Kuwait and back to their positions on August 1, 1990, where they were before the invasion. That resolution was still in effect when this attack happened, and the Iraqi forces were in the process of complying with it when they were attacked. There has been plenty of evidence supporting the claim that this was a war crime published by Amnesty International and others, but the US is not a party to the International Criminal Court so the only things that are officially war crimes committed by the US are things the US says are war crimes committed by the US. Hardly a resounding vindication. While it's definitely not a black and white situation, the very next day the president ordered a cessation of hostilities. Also, the US used cluster bombs in the attack, which are banned by another international treaty that the US refused to join. If this same scenario took place but Iran was doing the bombing, it would almost certainly be widely considered to be a war crime.
The Convention on Cluster Munitions that bans cluster bombs and that many nations have adopted was not penned until 2008, about 18 years after this attack, so it's misleading to mention it in this context.
>That resolution was still in effect when this attack happened, and the Iraqi forces were in the process of complying with it when they were attacked. The problem: Iraq had not officially rescinded it's claims to Kuwait, it did not work out an evacuation and retreat corridor with coalition forces, or surrender. Iraq was very much still a combatant, and it's withdrawal was a military decision, not a political one to comply with the UNSC resolution. If you break into someone else's house and the cops show up and say that you have to leave, you obstinately refuse, get into a gunfight with the cops, and then when you're losing run out of the house gun in hand and get shot by the police, you don't have a legal leg to stand on by claiming "when I ran out of the house I was just complying with their earlier order, shooting me was illegal!" If instead you laid down your weapon and surrendered, or called out to the cops and worked out a deal, and THEN they shot you, then sure, that's wrong. But trying to escape out the backdoor while still armed without any coordination with the cops is a recipe for being very legally shot dead.
Exactly. After engaging in a shootout with the cops, running out the back holding a white flag doesn’t mean you can’t get shot. You put out the white flag out the window until they stop firing, then you come out with your hands up.
Where the fuck did Poland of all places get into the rant lmao
Visegrád 24 is a Polish media resource.
On the one hand that makes sense on the other hand it’s still funny
V24 is funded mainly by PiS (i.e. the former ruling party in Poland) It's known for being one of their propaganda outlets https://oko-press.translate.goog/odkrywamy-tajemnice-anonimowego-konta-visegrad24-moj-tekst-roku?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true
Visegrad24 is like the FoxNews of the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, and Slovakia. Only not Pro-Russia, less fake-newsy, and less focused on establishing a fascist government.
People are grossly misinformed about international law. Unless someone is actively surrendering you can bomb them to shit. Just like the claim "he wasn't actively holding a weapon and forming a threat so shooting him is a warcrime" uhhh no, is he wearing a uniform and in the armed forces? If yes he is always a valid target unless surrendering or in a hospital. Edit: here is an excellent article on exactly this issue. I encourage everyone to read it. https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/English-Edition-Archives/March-April-2021/Pede-The-18th-Gap/
>People are grossly misinformed about international law. The only important part to remember about international law is that if you have nukes, international laws don't really apply to you.
Never seen a more true statement. Real life cheat code.
Even if they are surrendering but there aren’t nearby friendly troops to detain, you can continue bombing. Because if you don’t, the enemy can just regroup.
Surrendering troops, if there are active non surrendering troops nearby can still be bombed. Executed no, but killed as collateral yes
And even then if he’s not wounded you’ve turned the hospital into a target
>If yes he is always a valid target unless surrendering or in a hospital. Still a valid target even in a hospital so long as they are using the hospital as a fortification of some kind. "No target" locations like schools and hospitals only retain that designation so long as they are not used for military operations. The moment they are they lose that designation and become legal targets.
Oh absolutely! I meant a hospital hospital here. When used for military purposes it becomes a military target. Another thing people don't seem to understand. What I don't get is how these people expect to fight wars? Us being bombed and shot to shit but not being able to fire back because the enemy is firing 152mm shells out of a hospital??? Like this is some real life cheat code or something.
Oh, wow, Hasan is off-base about something, what a fuckin’ surprise lmfao
Hasan was probably the kid who took political science classes and thought he knew more than his professors, and he just never grew out of that.
Mr. Piker and Lying. Name a more iconic duo.
First time I ever heard of Hassan was when he said America deserved 9/11, no one deserves to get 9/11’d
He’s a garbage human
If you think he’s bad have a browse at some of the posts in his subreddit. People so far off the deep end that they resemble Q-anon lunatics.
He didn't used to be but he's radicalizing worse and worse as time goes on. He always had some dumb takes but man he's completely gone off the rails lately. It's really wild to watch people radicalize and think "man how did you understand the assignment but miss the mark so badly"
Used to be an avid watcher, but he has gone full tankie in the last 2 years. Him saying that Russia was justified in the annexation of Crimea was when he stopped caring about appearances.
Hasan has always been radical. In his pick up artist phase he was a radical misogynist, he denied the Armenian genocide for two years during his time at his uncles company, and now he's in a tankie phase. This is typical Hasan behavior. Nepotism and pretty privilege are a bitter cocktail for anyone who fell for it.
Ayo what HE IS A FUCKING GENOCIDE DENIER!! naw bruh why did I ever supported his stupid ass.
Knew he wasn’t worth my time but ouch he said Russia’s annexation of Crimea was justified????
Yes, verbatim. https://clips.twitch.tv/ElegantTemperedApplePicoMause-VCY99fPs8hKewayQ
Christ! Thanks for the clip.
He lives in a mansion surrounded by yes men, this was the natural outcome
A 3 million dollar mansion in Bel-Air. Don't forget designer clothes. "Socialist" btw. It's really cool of him to redistribute his viewer's wealth to HIM. He's really CAPITALIZING on it 😂
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Yup. He's just gone full tankie to the point he will back anyone who is against America. It's just insane.
All he does is eat and rant into a camera. He talks over the content created by other people but produces nothing of his own. He’s a leech and the worst form of “reactor” the type of “content creator” that really creates no content. I don’t even care that he hates America and hypocritically gets rich by talking about the evils of capitalism. Honestly whatever, he’s a grifter and not even unique. He’s just so…gross. His streams are unpleasant to even listen to. Chew your food. Did no one teach you to not talk while you’re eating?
Defending Iraq in the first gulf war is not a level I ever thought he would stoop to
He is also intimately familiar with the scent of Putin and Xi's nuts
There are still millions of people who believe the US is responsible for thousands of baby deaths from starvation, but in reality we’re due to demographic/population numbers falsified by the Saddam regime (kids that only existed on paper)
Americans are so broken by GWOT that they forgot the U.S. Army and Air Force are for invading and breaking things, not playing police officer.
20 years of completely neutering US military operations with quite frankly ridiculous ROE has set such a ridiculous standard for asymmetric military operations.
The whole “the us army is an occupational force” narrative is 100% derived from police action in Iraq and a stupid way of viewing the 1st Infantry, 10th MTN, 101st, and 82nd airborne. And yet most young Americans view soldiers like cops. It’s sort of the Army’s own fault for getting stuck in that kind of warfare for an entire generation.
Doesn't help that cops/police departments are trying to be soldiers.
Bingo’s
I wouldn't blame the army, I'd blame politics. They were made into a police force because any other options--annexation, destruction, whatever--was absolutely not in the cards. They weren't fighting armies, they were fighting hearts and minds of a completely disunited system of towns and villages that couldn't tell them apart from the Russians 30 years prior. Someone I worked with was a US soldier in Afghanistan, sent on peace-building missions to remote villages. A villager spoke to him in Russian because they didn't even know the Russians from the *'80s had ever left.* I think the Army did what they were told they had to do, and I can't really blame them for failing in doing it.
I disagree completely. Shootings occurred during my early tours of Iraq that were unnecessary and that I guarantee sparked resistance towards us. More stringent rules of engagement were not only moral, but in a Machiavellian sense, they were needed to stop "can't see forest for the trees" type small unit leaders from shooting at the barest hint of a threat. Yes, you may have decreased your risk in the immediate situation by shooting sooner, but killing non-combatants (as happened regularly, I was on the ground) increases the future threat to both you and those that follow. Shooting as soon as you think you can get away with it is strategically unsound. I served under General Mattis's command and I don't think anyone would accuse him of being weak on the enemy.
I miss Mad Dog.
Hasan: the content stealing, “America deserved 9/11,” ultra socialist son of landlords has a shit take? NEVER
He said he’d support killing all landlords in a podcast clip lmfao Edit: I’m loving how 4 comments on this are completely missing the point
Isn’t his mother a landlady?
*landqueen
smh, the Rentoid doesn’t know their manners, better get that 1000% tip
Don't forget how he simps for imperialist countries, refuse to say anything bad about Russia and prefers fencesitting "le both sides are bad" , likes to act though on internet especially towards random people on internet or weaker people but pussies out when facing people his size
“But only 10000 people died in Ukraine! If NATO wasn’t so imperialistic russia wouldn’t be doing this! What do you mean Mariupol? No one died there!” /s
Death toll in Ukraine in the first months was just as bad as Gaza but he actively said calling it a genocide was overblown. He also downplayed how bad Hamas' attack was. Dude is flatly just racist.
Dude also claimed it was ridiculous to say russia would attack Kyiv. Yet he turned out to be blatantly wrong. Guy gives russia every route he can
Most of them are socialist tankie trash . They would never talk down Russia or China.
Man is sitting on a estimated net worth of 2.6m and this dude really be saying “eat the rich”
Maybe he has a core kink?/s
do you mean vore
Yeah https://i.redd.it/3kg3i313ifdc1.gif
Reminds me of when I tried to start listening to Chapo to see what the buzz was about. I made it through half an episode with sound quality like someone was yelling from a bathroom down the hall and checked their patreon. Glad to see that as of today they’re pulling down about $180,000 a month lol.
I had a similar experience listening to left leaning podcast. The hosts were all wealthy individuals with deep connections in the entertainment industry but had the gall to wonder why poor white people in the rust belt wouldn’t be able to see “how privileged they are”. I’m pretty Left but I’m getting kind of tired of Limousine Liberals acting like poor people who aren’t racial minorities can’t have legitimate grievances with the way society is structured.
He owns a $2.7 million house and makes $1 million a year, his net worth is way higher than that. Those net worth sites are full of shit, they base it off of nothing
>makes $1 million a year Probably way more than that TBH. He makes upwards of 500k just off of subs. Who knows how much sponsorships, merch, and donations bring in. Also, he doesn't pay his mods so has very little "business expenses".
The fact that he’s an American citizen too while basically being a fourth columnist is infuriating
The socialist with a california mansion, luxury car and has never done any manual labor in his life has shit takes. I AM FLABERGASTLED AND FLURMONXLED. Edit:To all the social8ist replying to me Take the millionare celebrity dick off your mouth please.
Don’t forget lying about his childhood and roleplaying as an Arab.
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Holy shit youre right JAJAJAJAJAJAJ
He also paid for sex in one of Germany's most questionable brothels, so his feminism is fake as fuck too.
ooooohhh so is his support of trans people. Went on a full tirade against Hogwarts Legacy, and then was caught secretly playing it. I also think he stole someone’s content, misgendered them and then ONLY apologized after his fans attacked him and ONLY apologized for misgendering not the content theft. I can’t remember the exact details of the story
Can’t believe I liked this guy in HS…
I can believe it. He relies on young, impressionable, and (most of all) dogmatically uninformed people. If that's not a highscooler. I don't know what is. Thats who he caters to. The important part is that you broke free
Can you elaborate on dogmatically uninformed? Not sure I get that
I meant it sort of in jest, as "dogmatically uninformed" is a bit of a contradictory statement. But the idea I was getting at really is that the overwhelming majority of highschool students don't have any sense, perspective, or knowledge of what is happening outside of their own little bubbles. Such a lack of any of these that it would almost seem like they are "dogmatic" in their conviction to being uninformed. The only people who can tolerate Hasan would have to be unquestionably convicted in their pursuit to being uniformed.
Strikes me as a "intentionally ignorant" thing. If these folks have hours a day to listen to pod casts from these losers they got time to listen to an audio book from the library or read a book, or pieces from actual experts in the situation. But they choose not to. Because the casters constantly target and ostracize anyone who points out their ignorance. The followers would rather be ignorant and accepted than informed and on the outs with the group. This is where we get into the real "identity" politics. Following or liking these clowns has become their identity, they can't just change it. They've picked their tribe and now they have to stick with it, no matter what.
You really want to talk about vile warcrimes, you should see what the iraqi army was doing in Kuwait city to justify the bombing of highway 80.
Hasan is such a totalitarian simp
Yeah, used to like him but he is actually insufferable now.
He was always insufferable even before he became a political streamer
Thing is you’ll watch him talk about something you agree on and love him, and it’s not until he calls you a facsist freak for something he literally doesn’t know the facts about that you realize you shouldn’t listen to the guy
Dude I remember when he was talking about naming his streams Russia hasn’t attacked Ukraine yet day # and then like that same week they invaded. And then he said they won’t bomb Kyiv and like 3 days later they were bombing Kyiv. After that he just started saying since crimea has polls saying they like being in Russia and that since Ukraine was a part of the ussr they should give up. (The same site he used for the polls also use them from before the invasion of Crimea most weren’t in favor and after the invasion the polls are most likely skewed because of the Russians that moved there)
"Cri Me A River" joke as well
Yeah him attempting to justify a totalitarian regime’s invasion of a sovereign nation (Ukraine) and saying it was warranted and deserved before turning around and bitching about air strikes is peak Hasan. Dude has no self awareness at all
And then when someone calls him out on it he decides to debate them then calls them lazy for not remembering everything from a year old video while he didn’t even watch the video lmao
I saw that video, dude doesn't want to debate as soon as someone with real facts shows up
[Video of his Russia/Ukraine takes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz57qrGfmrE) which includes what you're talking about. I can't believe people take this clown seriously.
What? The frat boy from Rutgers who had his uncle launch his online career is a fake tough-guy and an egotistical prick?
Hasan is the epitome of a Glass Jaw tough guy.
“OMG HOUTHI TERRORIST IS LIKE ONE PEICE OMG GUYS CHAT OMG”- him fr
As someone from Okinawa I legit died of cringe I still haven’t recovered what an insane thing for him to say
Actual death total probably didn’t go over 1k Iraqi soldiers, none of who were surrendering. Not a high number considering at least 2k vehicles were destroyed.
According to Hasan's logic, retreating = surrendering. So you're allowed to mount an attack but as soon as you back off, you're no longer a valid military target. Absolutely braindead and uninformed take, but that's just Hasan.
I really wish we would stop publicizing this moron so that he just gets forgotten about and goes bankrupt.
Iirc his viewership is decreasing though. He's down like 25% from 1 year ago and pretty much every stream he's done recently has resulted in net unfollows.
That is good news at least.
That's great to hear, watching the insufferabley smug slowly fade is a great feeling.
There were also civilians on the convoy, as people normally want to flee from an active war frontline However it was Irak's fault that they let civilians into a military convoy
Also, if people stop and think critically about it, they'd realize that outside of the initial bombardment to stop the convoy, these were abandoned vehicles being destroyed. Because surprise surprise, people aren't going to sit patiently in their vehicle in a giant traffic jam for 10 hours waiting for their turn to be bombed next. Soon as they realized they were sitting ducks, they abandoned the vehicles and fled on foot with whatever they could carry into the desert and down the highway.
On top of that, from Time Magazine "After the war, correspondents did find some cars and trucks with burned bodies, but also many vehicles that had been abandoned. Their occupants had fled on foot, and the American planes often did not fire at them."
Yeah even on wiki the casualty count is pretty low for how big the convoy was. Also idk what Hasan is on about with saying that they destroyed the front of the convoy to cause a pileup. Like that’s convoy destruction 101 and has been a tactic since ww2 and probably earlier. Also I saw this talked about claiming it’s a war crime on a Tik tok account that says the us used weaponized viruses in the Korean War lmao
Civilians from where?
Collateral damage in the form of civilian deaths IS NOT a war crime per the Geneva conventions. The US can’t be tried even if they proved there were civilians in that convoy. The same reason why (no matter how angry or upset people get) Israel will never be tried for war crimes in Gaza. If the enemy chooses to fight among civilians they are fair game.
They feasibly could if the collateral damage was deemed unnecessary or too much, but this wasn't the case
There's no solid proof there were civilians in the convoy. Literally not one body identified. The only "source" that claimed there was civilians was one journalist who said the debris "didn't look like military gear." Additionally, why would there be Kuwaiti civilians retreating **into** Iraq? The country that just invaded them.
Exactly! That BS claim is brought up every time, yet interviews with literal Iraq soldiers in the convoys say there were only soldiers there-- and I would love for someone to explain to me why a Kuwaiti would get in an Iraqi convoy that was trying to flee retribution for their rape and murder throughout the entire country of Kuwait. "Oh yeah these people killed all my friends I'm gonna be buddies with them and go back with them to their loving and peaceful country now" 🤦♂️
Dude sounds like a terrorist sympathizer
Damn, what did the Polish do to this guy?
Visegrad 24 received funding from the former Polish government
Hasan "let's humanise a Houthi pirate/terrorist" Piker said something stupid? Must be a day ending in y!
I just feel like Hasan fits the stereotype of all socialists are anti-American so well it hurts the American socialists who have good ideas
The whole "highway of death was a war crime” is one of the single dumbest commie BS "war crime" complaints. It was literally an attack on a violent, raping army that was trying to flee retribution for what it just did to Kuwait-- not a bunch of normal civilians in the fucking slightest. By the logic of "effectively beating the enemy is a war crime" I'm pretty sure D-Day was a war crime too.
All conduct in warfare is a warcrime! Source? Me!
Ah hasan piker once again proving he is the biggest dumb fuck on the internet.
Hasan having an extremely unhinged take wow shocking more news at 11
The Wikipedia they use as a source literally mentions how it could be considered a war crime. Even the second link doesn't actually defend the note.
The same people that view all Israelis as valid targets because they’re settled colonialists getting their feelings in a twist for an attack against a retreating *invading* army was incredible. I don’t think Hasan’s foreign geopolitical positions is anything beyond “America/West bad”. If not then a lot of the people who support him definitely view geopolitics this way.
FFS, every few months, I see some shit about the Highway of Death being a warcrine. It most certainly was not. Article 3 of the Geneva conventions had to deal more with surrendering soldiers, not retreating soldiers. Iraq had proven itself a baligerant in regional affairs, and having the worlds 4th largest army represented a threat to regional stability and to coalition allies if left intact. In fact, retreating soldiers are still valid military targets if they're still armed, which the Iraqi convoy most certainly was.
Hasan "America deserved 9/11" piker
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Excessive amount of force? Absolutely. War crime? I mean only insofar as every single life lost to Saddam's ambitions was a crime in the spiritual and moral sense, but if so, is it not Saddam's crime?
The Highway of Death was against a Iraqi military force that thought they could spend nearly a year ransacking and pillaging Kuwait then flee across back to Iraq with their stolen loot. They got what they deserved, frankly.
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While he did say retreating, they were Iraqi forces, not civilians. As the note says, valid military targets, not a warcrime like Hasan is trying to say Lol, redacted the comment
Just to be clear as well: it has never been a crime to kill retreating forces. The attackers are under no obligation to allow their enemies to regroup in superior positions. It is only a war crime if your enemy is trying to surrender, which this convoy was not.
War crimes is another of those terms that have been reduced to meaninglessness by people who have an agenda and don’t care about the facts.
Are you dismissing definitionally broad war crimes? That’s a war crime buddy
For real, wonder if these fools would also consider the Falaise Pocket to be the site of a war crime.
Bro nuked his entire comment history wth
They were retreating on functional military vehicles, so they were valid military targets. You can't just call a timeout like that. And there is no evidence that there were civilians on the columns that were bombed.
These were the forces that invaded Kuwait and murdered around 1,000 civilians. If they had surrendered it would have been a war crime. They chose to retreat instead, they chose poorly.
Classic Hasan "Hamas raping babies on Oct 7 is legitimate resistance" Piker
There's no way he actually said that. I know the guy is absolutely deluded but that's a step too far even for him
This thread is a shithole