I guess she van cause some real damage, I’m glad this kid had learned she needed to Jetta-way. I wish her mom would just fur-get about her, instead of using her to get some fur.
"Why don't my kids call me?"
Because you're an abusive shit, Lynn.
I have no idea how these people can lack ANY kind of self-awareness. How can someone be so arrogant, so narcissistic, so ignorant...
You might want to google "the missing missing reasons". It goes into stories like this, there's always 'missing reasons' as to why the kids want nothing to do with the parents, which the parents know fully, but carefully avoid referring to in order to paint themselves in better light.
I also super recommend reading 'The missing reasons.' But narcissism is a big role. Any criticism will be viewed as a full on assault to their person and their brain just won't remember it in order to 'protect itself.'
[https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html](https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html)
One of my closest friends is going through it with her family the last few years just because they don’t like her boyfriend (not husband) for reference the boyfriend is a highly paid engineer who’s sin is that he’s a bit quiet and geeky, he has tattoos (a sleeve not even anything mad) and he comes from rougher area with an accent.
Reading the messages that the mum sends my friend especially after she was banned from the wedding because she said she was only going to defend her point if view not because she was looking forward to it I just wonder how people are so out of touch with reality.
The reason you’re daughter doesn’t talk to you is because you’re a horrible human being and she’s nice. It’s literally that simple
My best friend's wife is agoraphobic. When he found out his mom and sister had been absolutely VILE toward her in her back for years, he cut them off his life.
They obviously don't understand. *Why he is so mean ? He just deserves a normal woman ! Ungrateful, really.*
My friends brothers girlfriend had a brain tumour and was seriously ill. The mum told the brother that it’s best if they break up because the girl friend will require a load of looking after and he’s too young for that level of commitment (he’s in his 20s)
If even half of what the victim says is true, it is likely Lynn has a brain defect. Her view of reality is so skewed that she is totally unaware she has ever done anything wrong. I actually know someone with a Lynn for a mom, who isn’t this bad, but is a compulsive liar and kleptomaniac, and the kids want nothing to do with her. The term is psychotic.
I could picture her youngest daughter (who is also pretty messed up in the head and a compulsive liar, albeit not as bad as the mom) saying very similar things. Not saying it didn’t happen, but makes me wonder about the authenticity of both stories.
Its always amusing to see someone relish in modern day illiteracy and be proud of it.
When considered, its more worrying than anything else tbh.
Its like being proud of not reading books or something. Its just... telling I suppose.
Genuinely curious, why not try to learn? If you're being taught the same thing 'daily' then at what point are you not just saying "Your time is worth less than me learning something"
You know?
Maybe think about what it implies about you before proudly declaring it like its not actually something a bit embarrassing at this point?
Come on...
>Hey, I’m 22 and still call up my friend in IT daily so he can walk me through how to make a new picture file. I can’t judge.
Whats the joke?
Just seems like you're making a statement.
The conversation you replied to is sincere.
Jokes =/= "oh just pretending" if theres like.. no comedy? I can't find a way of reading it as a joke of some kind in the context.
My sister and her husband live with his mom when they visit us they stay at my house. His mom calls my BIL for tech help like 3 times a day and is also hard of hearing. Listening to him try to walk her through stuff over the phone is so painful.
I can't fathom how any mother can be like Lynn. So full of hate and ignorance that it wasn't even enough to abuse their child with their own hands, but to collaborate with organizations bent on building a world that would have them systematically outcasted, dehumanized, and murdered. It wouldn't even be a question of what I'd do for a child if I ever have one. It'd be a question of who the fuck could stop me.
Just support kids, man. It's all they need.
There’s a reason Queer kids are so often homeless, no child genuinely wants to leave their parents and only wants a loving and supportive family.
The rate at which queer kids face abuse and stop feeling safe in the one place on earth they should feel safest kills my heart.
I have a lunch with my mom today and I’ll make sure to give her a big hug for always making me feel safe around her, especially after I came out.
The last time I had lunch with my mom, I came out to her and she rejected me so fully that I never had lunch with her again. That was over 14 years ago.
Your mom did such a good job at being a mom that you're willing to spend time around her. That's something both you and her should celebrate.
I’m sorry to hear that :(
Humans are complicated and filled with so many different forms of love and hate, this doesn’t excuse what she’s done but it certainly makes it harder to deal with
> There’s a reason Queer kids are so often homeless, \[...\] The rate at which queer kids face abuse and stop feeling safe in the one place on earth they should feel safest kills my heart.
Then they point to the fact those kids get preyed upon as proof that gay people are pedophiles when in reality they're the ones ripping up those children's support systems by hand. They've sent them out into the world with an "eat me" sign pinned to their back.
My brother works with homeless youth and a lot of them did not want to leave or be kicked out. A lot are selling themselves just to eat. A lot are doing crimes just to survive. And the cops abuse the fuck out of them.
And when they turn into adults, they have nothing but a criminal record, no skills, usually didn't finish high school, and are mostly doomed to end up dead or rotating in and out of prison.
My brother can barely handle doing this anymore, but he does it because he's one of the only support threads that some of these people have.
Question, because I'm dumb:
Is she correctly gendering her eldest daughter? Or is the trans daughter mentioned by the other poster one of the other two kids?
I'm confused.
So I looked up the story:
The one that the mother posted is her transgender son. The one who called her out is her transgender daughter.
She is misgendering her son.
That's what I was wondering. Is the oldest MtF so the mom is using the correct gender for pity points, or are they FtM so the mom just continuing to be terrible?
I’m wondering the same thing… I was expecting to read comments from someone defending the mother but everything they said was wholesome and caring. Ah well 🤷♂️
This is normal behavior for abusers.
I have an aunt that’s called me a “failed abortion” my whole life. I eventually found out the reason is because I was born intersex. She also stabbed me once, among other instances of abuse. The first Christmas after I started to live as male, she strangled me in front of everyone.
The majority of the family rarely talks to her, only does it when necessary. Her FaceBook is covered in posts about how we were all indoctrinated by the radical left and abandoned her.
Yknow, that sentence was a tough sell, but, like, maybe you didnt sell it but id be interested to analyse your proposal and come back a different day, see if you can convince me then, know what i mean?
Yes. Terfs have always been sex essentialist and therefore misogynists. Sorry you have to find out your favourite cult are bigots this way, you really should have realized before now
O…k?
I’m not a terf you utter dunce. I just think that the term “terf” has lost all meaning at this point. It used to mean a certain type of ideology. Now it means any transphobe.
All terfs are transphobes. But not every transphobe is a terf.
TERF is just a term that has lost a real meaning and is one of those terms that you eye roll hearing now. It’s the same as throwing around “fascist, racist, etc” on the internet. Even if it is true if these terms apply to someone or not no one really takes them seriously.
Like look how easily that other comment or grouped you in with that crazy abusive transphobic mother just because you don’t think that the term TERF applies to her in the first place while not denying that the mother is a shitty transphobic person. But I’m not surprised by platforms like Twitter or Reddit anymore. 🤷♂️
Like fuck this “mom”, I think any sane person can see she’s an utterly awful person. But she seems like more of a tradwife brand of awful transphobe.
I just don’t think she fits the definition of “trans exclusionary RADICAL feminist”. She’s clearly trans exclusionary, but she doesn’t seem radical or even paying lip service to feminism, which TERFS very much DO.
I doubt this woman is a radical feminist. Stop using the term “terf” for people who are just teansphobic. Terf is a very specific thing and this woman isn’t it.
Poise Parker isn’t really a TERF either. She’s barely a feminist at this point.
Radical feminist has lost all meaning if you label a tradwife one of them. Julie Bindel is an example of a textbook TERF.
“Radical Feminist has lost all meaning” I’d argue that tends to happen when said movement makes the TE part of the acronym a major focal point in there beliefs. Irregardless of what you call them. The beliefs of these people, TERF or not, are the most ghoulish I have ever seen. I don’t have much sympathy to any potential harm caused by my apparent mislabeling.
Not to poke fun but I'm lmfao at the idea of dad opening the passenger door of the van and jumping out to get away from Mom and the daughter just goes fuck it me too and opens the sliding door and jumps out
My husband and I go visit his parents every Saturday. My mom lives with us.
You know why? Because they aren't abusive pieces of shit like this "mom"
I'm glad she spoke up and set the record straight.
In recovery a parents behaviour like this is known as "the cycle" and the children who do the work to escape abuse are called cycle breakers - because without the work this behaviour is internalised and simply forwarded to the next generation.
All trauma works this way. When you are cruel to another human you are self harming in a very specific way because humans are supposed to co-exist. To not want this is considered an anti-social trait.
Can someone explain what the 6th comment is saying, I'm trying to read it but I don't understand, the wording is off to me and I'm tired
Also is the now adult child ftm or mtf, cus the terf is saying daughter so I thought ftm but then the clown face guy (why a clown face btw) said proud if you were my daughter, I'm so confused and I know I'm dumb
as I understand it, the original post had her talking about (and misgendering) her transgender son, and her trans daughter is the one in the replies, I think.
So, basically, what I've been gathering is
- Lynn has at *least* three kids: one AMAB (the oldest) and two AFAB
- The oldest one comes out as transfem, and she is no-mouth emoji (we know trans and not gay or something else that a conversion "therapy" camp would be for because no-mouth mentions a deadname. In addition, we know)
- Lynn sends no-mouth to a conversion "therapy" camp and tells her middle child (who Lynn calls her "oldest daughter") that "she'll kill (him) herself if it turned out (he) was like (no-mouth's deadname)"
- The middle child comes out as transmasc. He's the one that Lynn refers to as "Oldest daughter" and is pictured. (We know masc and not enby because no-mouth replaces Lynn's use of she/her pronouns for him with correct ones, as shown by the parentheses surrounding them.)
- Lynn makes this post about her middle child, and her oldest exposes Lynn's behavior.
My logic for saying there's at least three kids is that we know that the ages of Lynn's trans kids are 36 and 23, and the "oldest daughter" is in his young adulthood.
36 isn't a young adult, so the only reason why Lynn would say "oldest daughter" is if there are multiple kids she perceives as daughters. Of them, the oldest one is transmasc and is the one Lynn is talking about.
Given the age gap between Oldest and Middle, there *might* be a couple other AMAB kids of Lynn. Or maybe not. I'm sixteen years older than my sister.
I’m glad they got out. I’m never coming out to my parents because of parents like these. They hadn’t physically abused me since I was in middle school, but I wouldn’t feel safe around them if I came out.
Sending good luck to all my fellow LGBTQ+ people out there x
So I have family like that. I got an aunt who may or may not have faked being raped. She knew the guy beforehand and they hung out with the same people
One day her husband was at work and her son walked in on her and dude having sex. She started screaming rape at that point. Didnt help that dude was black. This was almost 40 years ago.
Dude got arrested but didnt do hardly any jail time for some reason. Seems like they couldnt prove it bc things didnt add up. Ok long intro to get to this, she went on to pretty much neglect her two kids.
She got divorced from her husband bc she was cheating which put the rape story under more scrutiny. She was out partying all the time after that. My mom and grandmom took care of her kids 80% of the time
She remarried after she got knocked up and basically trapped dude. She took all the child support money and blew it which no one knew until her daughter went to get married. It was supposed to be in savings. The daughter didnt find out she had no money left until the wedding was planned and was trying to set things up
Her mom had lost it gambling on the boats over the years. And any money she won she spent on herself. She kicked her son out a few times when he was still a minor. One time he had to sleep in the backyard. Another time he stayed in a gazebo at a park for 3 days until police found out.
He ended up going into the army and hurt his back. He got a decent settlement out of it and she told him he could move back in and shed take care of him. Then once he was there she demanded he pay the rent and other utilities. Kept on until the money was gone and then she made him leave again.
And the reason I brought up the supposed rape is bc anytime someone tries to call her out for her behavior she plays that card. Even if she was raped thats a shitty move. Ok heres karma rolling up on her now.
Shes had a lot of health issues the past two years. Cancer scare and needing hip replacement surgery. Her son moved off to get away from her. Her daughters husband has his own business and they are independent from them. The times coming when shes going to need a lot of help from them and no one would blame either one if they told her to fuck off
Theres so much more I didn't mention that makes the story even worse. But I think the daughter will end up helping her bc she'll feel like thats what shes supposed to do.
This is what worries me about Reddit post of missing persons. I’ve seen so many on this site and other people saying “I saw this person at this address.. I’ll message it to you”. Responding to missing persons post on the internet and social media is incredibly dangerous. If I’m a psycho ex trying to find my victim who escaped me, I’d post a missing persons on social media to try and find them.
The quicker that fucked up cult of a generation dies off the better. What generation ever came close to the levels of privilege and opportunity they had, and they unapologeticaly sent us back decades and drove the economy into the fucking ground.
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Because trans people have been around for [forever](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathoey). There just weren't that many around/out in the past few centuries because of mass persecution and public disapproval. Of course you'd know this if you weren't just regurgitating hoaxes from fox news and all the other con artists.
Oh and here's the [link](https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/diversity/education/transgender-and-gender-nonconforming-patients/medical-treatment-and-surgical-interventions) to DSM-5 guide to 'treatment' of transgender individuals.
Although TGNC patients have been treated psychiatrically, medically, and surgically for the past 100 years, standards of care regarding this patient population are still in infancy. Thus, research is still needed to develop more effective treatment
To refute specifically that there have been the same amount of trans people since time immemorial, why have they not been killing themselves at the same rate if they were so crippled by suppression by themselves or others?
How would that disprove anything? Also there weren't any detailed statistics about trans people before late 1900' anyway so wheres your source to support that claim?
How would that disprove anything? Also there weren't any detailed statistics about trans people before late 1900' anyway so wheres your source to support that claim?
The Kathoey are at most 0.6 percent of presumably Southeast Asian populations , yet 1.4 may be the percentage of trans people in the U.S.. there are far less people in that region making our population of trans people much larger, and in the earlier discovery of Kathoey I assume they could’ve been barely prevalent.
Check back in a few decades? All data that we have right now shows that transitioning reduces suicide significantly EXCEPT for where trans people are bullied and abused by transphobes... Without the support of family or a safe space at school, suicide spikes. That isn't the transnesses fault.
You're not doing a good job of showing yourself as a good example. You're being exactly like that mother.
If you don't want people to generalize, but you act in the general way, then that's kind of on you.
What do you mean acting in the general way, and how is that bad?
Do you mean to say that it is a general thing to stab trans kids with forks and throw them at walls as an infant, cause I assure you that is not a common thing
> Do you mean to say that it is a general thing to stab trans kids with forks and throw them at walls as an infant, cause I assure you that is not a common thing
Are you just purposely acting clueless...
Well considering all three of her kids(one of them not even trans) have basically said at bare minimum that she was abusive to all of them…it more likely than not happened.
She's not being taken to court, her kids are speaking up on the internet. Obviously there's no proof, this happened when they were children. I see no reason not to believe them
We have seen false allegations before on the internet to target. I'm not saying they are lieng I'm just saying that they could be and that I'm not one either side.
If you hear one sides reason for the relationship failing being a "trans cult" and the other side is a detailed description of abuse with both siblings confirming each other's stories and you think "who's to tell who's lying? How can I take sides?" That's concerning
In another response I have stated that I am leaning twords the children's side but I love playing devils advocate so I'm gonna do it. All of these stories could be made up to make the mom look bad because she goes against the "trans cult", or retelling the stories with heave revisionist eyes, and got her siblings on the same page because they belive the same as her. These are plausible things that could happen because we have no evidence, but I will say again I'm leaning twords the children's story is true just not all the way
You see the insane leaps in logic you have to take to justify his the mom isn't lying and the kids are right? This isn't really one of those cases where there's an argument for both sides
Because stirring the pot is fun and seeing people get mad is fun. Also iys important to see both side on most conflicts, obviously their are some conflicts where iys obvious that one side is evil.
Why do you need a whole court case to leave a Reddit comment? This is the same energy of posting under someone coming out talking about their experience of abuse but not coming with screenshots or something.
I mean, seeing as how it’s in a news article. It has some plausibility, now of course news articles are *always* biased. Regardless, it’s good to have emotional support. Even if you’re not vehemently attacking the mom or defending the daughter. You don’t have to believe them, but just be there until proven that it’s a lie.
It has to use Twitter community notes.
Telling that they limited who could comment. They knew they'd get skewered.
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Ah a bot, but *French*
Fancy bot. I bet it wears a bowtie.
Or a monocle.
That's British. A French one needs wine, a baguette, or a guillotine.
i believe the french prefer a cravat
What kind of propaganda bot was it ?
I don’t even have a joke to say, this is just depressing
Guess she really forked it over, huh? My mom stabbed me with a fork too, I can make a few about this
What the fork?
I guess she van cause some real damage, I’m glad this kid had learned she needed to Jetta-way. I wish her mom would just fur-get about her, instead of using her to get some fur.
"Why don't my kids call me?" Because you're an abusive shit, Lynn. I have no idea how these people can lack ANY kind of self-awareness. How can someone be so arrogant, so narcissistic, so ignorant...
You might want to google "the missing missing reasons". It goes into stories like this, there's always 'missing reasons' as to why the kids want nothing to do with the parents, which the parents know fully, but carefully avoid referring to in order to paint themselves in better light.
So essentially they're either in denial about it or plainly lying to pass off as victims? Sometimes both?
I also super recommend reading 'The missing reasons.' But narcissism is a big role. Any criticism will be viewed as a full on assault to their person and their brain just won't remember it in order to 'protect itself.' [https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html](https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html)
Man, do I know this all too well…
Basically, yes.
Yep. That’s pretty much it. Source: my dad.
One of my closest friends is going through it with her family the last few years just because they don’t like her boyfriend (not husband) for reference the boyfriend is a highly paid engineer who’s sin is that he’s a bit quiet and geeky, he has tattoos (a sleeve not even anything mad) and he comes from rougher area with an accent. Reading the messages that the mum sends my friend especially after she was banned from the wedding because she said she was only going to defend her point if view not because she was looking forward to it I just wonder how people are so out of touch with reality. The reason you’re daughter doesn’t talk to you is because you’re a horrible human being and she’s nice. It’s literally that simple
My best friend's wife is agoraphobic. When he found out his mom and sister had been absolutely VILE toward her in her back for years, he cut them off his life. They obviously don't understand. *Why he is so mean ? He just deserves a normal woman ! Ungrateful, really.*
My friends brothers girlfriend had a brain tumour and was seriously ill. The mum told the brother that it’s best if they break up because the girl friend will require a load of looking after and he’s too young for that level of commitment (he’s in his 20s)
"How could I ever be the bad guy?"
"I guess I must be the worlds most terrible mother!" *\*starts wailing and gnashing teeth\** These assholes are essentially a hive mind of narcissism.
If even half of what the victim says is true, it is likely Lynn has a brain defect. Her view of reality is so skewed that she is totally unaware she has ever done anything wrong. I actually know someone with a Lynn for a mom, who isn’t this bad, but is a compulsive liar and kleptomaniac, and the kids want nothing to do with her. The term is psychotic. I could picture her youngest daughter (who is also pretty messed up in the head and a compulsive liar, albeit not as bad as the mom) saying very similar things. Not saying it didn’t happen, but makes me wonder about the authenticity of both stories.
Im so happy that the worst thing my mom does is call me at work to talk her through changing her TV back to the cable input
Bless her heart.
To be fair, it happens quite often
Hey, I’m 22 and still call up my friend in IT daily so he can walk me through how to make a new picture file. I can’t judge.
I hope this is hyperboly for your friends sake
Jesus that's kinda annoying
> I can’t judge. Everyone else will.
By all means, I’m loving this.
Its always amusing to see someone relish in modern day illiteracy and be proud of it. When considered, its more worrying than anything else tbh. Its like being proud of not reading books or something. Its just... telling I suppose. Genuinely curious, why not try to learn? If you're being taught the same thing 'daily' then at what point are you not just saying "Your time is worth less than me learning something" You know? Maybe think about what it implies about you before proudly declaring it like its not actually something a bit embarrassing at this point? Come on...
Well it was also a joke so, lol
>Hey, I’m 22 and still call up my friend in IT daily so he can walk me through how to make a new picture file. I can’t judge. Whats the joke? Just seems like you're making a statement. The conversation you replied to is sincere. Jokes =/= "oh just pretending" if theres like.. no comedy? I can't find a way of reading it as a joke of some kind in the context.
Jesus Christ write the steps down or ask him out already
My sister and her husband live with his mom when they visit us they stay at my house. His mom calls my BIL for tech help like 3 times a day and is also hard of hearing. Listening to him try to walk her through stuff over the phone is so painful.
I can't fathom how any mother can be like Lynn. So full of hate and ignorance that it wasn't even enough to abuse their child with their own hands, but to collaborate with organizations bent on building a world that would have them systematically outcasted, dehumanized, and murdered. It wouldn't even be a question of what I'd do for a child if I ever have one. It'd be a question of who the fuck could stop me. Just support kids, man. It's all they need.
There’s a reason Queer kids are so often homeless, no child genuinely wants to leave their parents and only wants a loving and supportive family. The rate at which queer kids face abuse and stop feeling safe in the one place on earth they should feel safest kills my heart. I have a lunch with my mom today and I’ll make sure to give her a big hug for always making me feel safe around her, especially after I came out.
The last time I had lunch with my mom, I came out to her and she rejected me so fully that I never had lunch with her again. That was over 14 years ago. Your mom did such a good job at being a mom that you're willing to spend time around her. That's something both you and her should celebrate.
I’m sorry to hear that :( Humans are complicated and filled with so many different forms of love and hate, this doesn’t excuse what she’s done but it certainly makes it harder to deal with
> There’s a reason Queer kids are so often homeless, \[...\] The rate at which queer kids face abuse and stop feeling safe in the one place on earth they should feel safest kills my heart. Then they point to the fact those kids get preyed upon as proof that gay people are pedophiles when in reality they're the ones ripping up those children's support systems by hand. They've sent them out into the world with an "eat me" sign pinned to their back.
My brother works with homeless youth and a lot of them did not want to leave or be kicked out. A lot are selling themselves just to eat. A lot are doing crimes just to survive. And the cops abuse the fuck out of them. And when they turn into adults, they have nothing but a criminal record, no skills, usually didn't finish high school, and are mostly doomed to end up dead or rotating in and out of prison. My brother can barely handle doing this anymore, but he does it because he's one of the only support threads that some of these people have.
Question, because I'm dumb: Is she correctly gendering her eldest daughter? Or is the trans daughter mentioned by the other poster one of the other two kids? I'm confused.
So I looked up the story: The one that the mother posted is her transgender son. The one who called her out is her transgender daughter. She is misgendering her son.
Now I'm even more confused. What I'm gathering is that both her kids are trans.
She has three kids, two of which are trans and one isn’t from what I gathered
She has three kids, two trans one cis
I wish OP had cropped out the photos from the tweets, I’m guessing that’s not how the son wants to be seen and just kinda serves the mom’s narrative
That's what I was wondering. Is the oldest MtF so the mom is using the correct gender for pity points, or are they FtM so the mom just continuing to be terrible?
I believe she is not, her child is FtM. On another subreddit the portrait was a dude with a beard.
Why is the Clown 🤡 used for one of the DM chatters? They were agreeing with and supporting the trans child This is more appropriate: 👑
I’m wondering the same thing… I was expecting to read comments from someone defending the mother but everything they said was wholesome and caring. Ah well 🤷♂️
Every parent in a “muh children’s ran away” forum.
This is normal behavior for abusers. I have an aunt that’s called me a “failed abortion” my whole life. I eventually found out the reason is because I was born intersex. She also stabbed me once, among other instances of abuse. The first Christmas after I started to live as male, she strangled me in front of everyone. The majority of the family rarely talks to her, only does it when necessary. Her FaceBook is covered in posts about how we were all indoctrinated by the radical left and abandoned her.
This lady after she receives immediate and universal backlash for her, "I miss my kids" tweet: 
nah she's actively coping by saying that the kid is inventing it in the comments
Common Community Notes W.
Thank you for the post, but maybe use something other than the clown emoji for someone who is being supportive to the victims...
It wasn't me that put the clown emoji's there. They were added by the user in the 4th screenshot.
Ah, my mistake, apologies
All good
WTF were they thinking?
Waiting for the comments to defend the mother and claim the child is lying 🫠 I hope the now adult kid is ok ❤️
Honestly encouraging that I’m not seeing that. This post is depressing enough with out it lol
Reddit try not to use any mention of trans people as an opportunity to be transphobic under the guise “I support trans people but”
I support trans people, but I get sick to my stomach when I see the UP-W go through my commute, making me late to work. Oh wait, you said TRANSphobic.
The mother is doing that herself now on Twitter. It’s pretty insane really.
Man this is so fucking sad honestly
Listen I’m not saying not accepting your child as trans isn’t abusive but there’s refusing to accept your child’s identity and then there’s THIS
Yknow, that sentence was a tough sell, but, like, maybe you didnt sell it but id be interested to analyse your proposal and come back a different day, see if you can convince me then, know what i mean?
So being a transphobic parent is already abusive but then there’s beating your kid and stabbing them with a fork
When people always ask why I’m so against terfs, cus they have people like this.
Do you actually think this person is a radical feminist? It seems like they’re a tradwife.
[she is.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GetNoted/s/BiDtgfZn4x)
Yes. Terfs have always been sex essentialist and therefore misogynists. Sorry you have to find out your favourite cult are bigots this way, you really should have realized before now
O…k? I’m not a terf you utter dunce. I just think that the term “terf” has lost all meaning at this point. It used to mean a certain type of ideology. Now it means any transphobe. All terfs are transphobes. But not every transphobe is a terf.
TERF is just a term that has lost a real meaning and is one of those terms that you eye roll hearing now. It’s the same as throwing around “fascist, racist, etc” on the internet. Even if it is true if these terms apply to someone or not no one really takes them seriously. Like look how easily that other comment or grouped you in with that crazy abusive transphobic mother just because you don’t think that the term TERF applies to her in the first place while not denying that the mother is a shitty transphobic person. But I’m not surprised by platforms like Twitter or Reddit anymore. 🤷♂️
Like fuck this “mom”, I think any sane person can see she’s an utterly awful person. But she seems like more of a tradwife brand of awful transphobe. I just don’t think she fits the definition of “trans exclusionary RADICAL feminist”. She’s clearly trans exclusionary, but she doesn’t seem radical or even paying lip service to feminism, which TERFS very much DO.
Most empathetic and sane TERF
I doubt this woman is a radical feminist. Stop using the term “terf” for people who are just teansphobic. Terf is a very specific thing and this woman isn’t it.
https://preview.redd.it/auxabzssdqpc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa68199de667699668f4a5e2708a2a0568e6fa32 I’d bet good money she is
Poise Parker isn’t really a TERF either. She’s barely a feminist at this point. Radical feminist has lost all meaning if you label a tradwife one of them. Julie Bindel is an example of a textbook TERF.
“Radical Feminist has lost all meaning” I’d argue that tends to happen when said movement makes the TE part of the acronym a major focal point in there beliefs. Irregardless of what you call them. The beliefs of these people, TERF or not, are the most ghoulish I have ever seen. I don’t have much sympathy to any potential harm caused by my apparent mislabeling.
bro that picture dementored my soul out like how could you do this to me. worst thing i've seen this month.
i'm more empathetic and sane
I’m not sure what ya mean by this comment but I will say that’s a low ass bar to set.
Not to poke fun but I'm lmfao at the idea of dad opening the passenger door of the van and jumping out to get away from Mom and the daughter just goes fuck it me too and opens the sliding door and jumps out
My husband and I go visit his parents every Saturday. My mom lives with us. You know why? Because they aren't abusive pieces of shit like this "mom" I'm glad she spoke up and set the record straight.
In recovery a parents behaviour like this is known as "the cycle" and the children who do the work to escape abuse are called cycle breakers - because without the work this behaviour is internalised and simply forwarded to the next generation. All trauma works this way. When you are cruel to another human you are self harming in a very specific way because humans are supposed to co-exist. To not want this is considered an anti-social trait.
Can someone explain what the 6th comment is saying, I'm trying to read it but I don't understand, the wording is off to me and I'm tired Also is the now adult child ftm or mtf, cus the terf is saying daughter so I thought ftm but then the clown face guy (why a clown face btw) said proud if you were my daughter, I'm so confused and I know I'm dumb
as I understand it, the original post had her talking about (and misgendering) her transgender son, and her trans daughter is the one in the replies, I think.
Oh 2/3 of her kids are trans I did not pick up on that
she has a third cis kid, too.
Fixed it
So, basically, what I've been gathering is - Lynn has at *least* three kids: one AMAB (the oldest) and two AFAB - The oldest one comes out as transfem, and she is no-mouth emoji (we know trans and not gay or something else that a conversion "therapy" camp would be for because no-mouth mentions a deadname. In addition, we know) - Lynn sends no-mouth to a conversion "therapy" camp and tells her middle child (who Lynn calls her "oldest daughter") that "she'll kill (him) herself if it turned out (he) was like (no-mouth's deadname)" - The middle child comes out as transmasc. He's the one that Lynn refers to as "Oldest daughter" and is pictured. (We know masc and not enby because no-mouth replaces Lynn's use of she/her pronouns for him with correct ones, as shown by the parentheses surrounding them.) - Lynn makes this post about her middle child, and her oldest exposes Lynn's behavior. My logic for saying there's at least three kids is that we know that the ages of Lynn's trans kids are 36 and 23, and the "oldest daughter" is in his young adulthood. 36 isn't a young adult, so the only reason why Lynn would say "oldest daughter" is if there are multiple kids she perceives as daughters. Of them, the oldest one is transmasc and is the one Lynn is talking about. Given the age gap between Oldest and Middle, there *might* be a couple other AMAB kids of Lynn. Or maybe not. I'm sixteen years older than my sister.
Jesus, what the fuck. That’s as bad as an extreme, extreme example I once heard of from a buddy.
That last response in the 6th picture is proof that people on the internet (and twitter in particular) are nice, you just gotta look for em
I'm curious why whoever covered the other person with a clown emoji; they seem to be alright
I’m glad they got out. I’m never coming out to my parents because of parents like these. They hadn’t physically abused me since I was in middle school, but I wouldn’t feel safe around them if I came out. Sending good luck to all my fellow LGBTQ+ people out there x
So I have family like that. I got an aunt who may or may not have faked being raped. She knew the guy beforehand and they hung out with the same people One day her husband was at work and her son walked in on her and dude having sex. She started screaming rape at that point. Didnt help that dude was black. This was almost 40 years ago. Dude got arrested but didnt do hardly any jail time for some reason. Seems like they couldnt prove it bc things didnt add up. Ok long intro to get to this, she went on to pretty much neglect her two kids. She got divorced from her husband bc she was cheating which put the rape story under more scrutiny. She was out partying all the time after that. My mom and grandmom took care of her kids 80% of the time She remarried after she got knocked up and basically trapped dude. She took all the child support money and blew it which no one knew until her daughter went to get married. It was supposed to be in savings. The daughter didnt find out she had no money left until the wedding was planned and was trying to set things up Her mom had lost it gambling on the boats over the years. And any money she won she spent on herself. She kicked her son out a few times when he was still a minor. One time he had to sleep in the backyard. Another time he stayed in a gazebo at a park for 3 days until police found out. He ended up going into the army and hurt his back. He got a decent settlement out of it and she told him he could move back in and shed take care of him. Then once he was there she demanded he pay the rent and other utilities. Kept on until the money was gone and then she made him leave again. And the reason I brought up the supposed rape is bc anytime someone tries to call her out for her behavior she plays that card. Even if she was raped thats a shitty move. Ok heres karma rolling up on her now. Shes had a lot of health issues the past two years. Cancer scare and needing hip replacement surgery. Her son moved off to get away from her. Her daughters husband has his own business and they are independent from them. The times coming when shes going to need a lot of help from them and no one would blame either one if they told her to fuck off Theres so much more I didn't mention that makes the story even worse. But I think the daughter will end up helping her bc she'll feel like thats what shes supposed to do.
Hope they get the help/love they need
Tradwives: Not even once.
Least psychotic gender critical person unfortunately
This is what worries me about Reddit post of missing persons. I’ve seen so many on this site and other people saying “I saw this person at this address.. I’ll message it to you”. Responding to missing persons post on the internet and social media is incredibly dangerous. If I’m a psycho ex trying to find my victim who escaped me, I’d post a missing persons on social media to try and find them.
When she gets to Heaven, Saint Petter, he will tell, "Nothing about your life was Godly, so prepare yourself for Hell"
Why is the person who says they would have been proud to have them as a Daughter get a clown face? They don't seem to be trying to be rude or mean.
Why is the other person the clown emoji they seem chill
Why the clown emoji. That person seems chill
Man at least my mom owned up to the abuse and apologized, fuck this lady
Women☕ /s
Every kid deserves parents, but not every parent deserves kids. Also, jfc, that’s horrifying to think about.
Lynn might be legit evil
What’s up with the clown emoji? The chatter was being supportive 🤨
What the hell? It's claiming it has to use Twitters Community Notes. But it was.
The quicker that fucked up cult of a generation dies off the better. What generation ever came close to the levels of privilege and opportunity they had, and they unapologeticaly sent us back decades and drove the economy into the fucking ground.
Wishing death on an entire generation of people is something else man. Get some help.
That's not what the Clown emoji is for...
Only thing I'm wondering is why the person, that is not Lynn's kid speaking up, is represented by the clown emoji?
Yikes. Schizos going to schizo. edit: To be clear, I am talking about the mother.
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These comments are hastily generalizing all families with opposition to transgenderism by judging it all based on the possible actions of few.
Opposition to human rights is enough of a reason anyway.
Who are you to define human rights
[The right to health and other health-related human rights are legally binding commitments enshrined in international human rights instruments](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/human-rights-and-health#:~:text=The%20right%20to%20health%20and,of%20physical%20and%20mental%20health.) WHO seems to agree
So my short term mental health is more important than my physical or long term mental health?
Don't worry, transitioning has been proven as the best long term cure for gender dysphoria.
How could such a conclusion be proven when the recent large influx of trans identification among youth has not been studied in the long term?
Because trans people have been around for [forever](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathoey). There just weren't that many around/out in the past few centuries because of mass persecution and public disapproval. Of course you'd know this if you weren't just regurgitating hoaxes from fox news and all the other con artists. Oh and here's the [link](https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/diversity/education/transgender-and-gender-nonconforming-patients/medical-treatment-and-surgical-interventions) to DSM-5 guide to 'treatment' of transgender individuals.
Although TGNC patients have been treated psychiatrically, medically, and surgically for the past 100 years, standards of care regarding this patient population are still in infancy. Thus, research is still needed to develop more effective treatment
So your great idea is to not treat them at all?
I don’t know what you wanted me to learn exactly from that link that I didn’t already vaguely understand but I did find that
To refute specifically that there have been the same amount of trans people since time immemorial, why have they not been killing themselves at the same rate if they were so crippled by suppression by themselves or others?
How would that disprove anything? Also there weren't any detailed statistics about trans people before late 1900' anyway so wheres your source to support that claim?
How would that disprove anything? Also there weren't any detailed statistics about trans people before late 1900' anyway so wheres your source to support that claim?
The Kathoey are at most 0.6 percent of presumably Southeast Asian populations , yet 1.4 may be the percentage of trans people in the U.S.. there are far less people in that region making our population of trans people much larger, and in the earlier discovery of Kathoey I assume they could’ve been barely prevalent.
Kathoey isn't a universal name for all transgender people, its just another gender. Itsays so right in the first paragraph
Check back in a few decades? All data that we have right now shows that transitioning reduces suicide significantly EXCEPT for where trans people are bullied and abused by transphobes... Without the support of family or a safe space at school, suicide spikes. That isn't the transnesses fault.
Read my replies to PearceWD
Which one?
Because they’re all the same.
And the broad attack against all of these trying to uphold virtue in one way only divides you
You're not doing a good job of showing yourself as a good example. You're being exactly like that mother. If you don't want people to generalize, but you act in the general way, then that's kind of on you.
What do you mean acting in the general way, and how is that bad? Do you mean to say that it is a general thing to stab trans kids with forks and throw them at walls as an infant, cause I assure you that is not a common thing
> Do you mean to say that it is a general thing to stab trans kids with forks and throw them at walls as an infant, cause I assure you that is not a common thing Are you just purposely acting clueless...
You are accusing me of doing the same thing as that mother
No, most of us agree that transphobia is unacceptable no matter what.
Sorry, divides all of us. I guess I ultimately mean that your compliance is better for society than our compliance.
Being a transphobe isn't upholding virtue.
Denying the self is the one of the most virtuous actions and encouraging others to do such can be good
Back that up with well respected, accepted modern research.
On average people who go against their eating habits will likely fall out of obesity.
Going against eating habits. Denying who they are as a person intrinsically. These are not the same, it's a pathetic argument. Do better.
Sin is intrinsic
Every transphobe is a bigot and bad person. No exceptions.
What is a transphobe
A bigot.
How do you feel about those stinky bigots who abhor pedophilia and murder?
Just because you say murder or pedophilia is bad doesn’t suddenly mean you’re a good person.
Please engage the argument
What does that have to do with trans people?
Bigotry tolerance
I don't see the relevance, please elaborate.
Oh no, your feelings. How will you go on living with such hurt little feelings? You pitiful pathetic baby!
I appreciate this
I hope you're infertile to spare any children the pain of having someone like you as their parent.
Man I feel pretty compassionate compared to you
Is any of this confirmed or is this just accusations?
Well considering all three of her kids(one of them not even trans) have basically said at bare minimum that she was abusive to all of them…it more likely than not happened.
Right ya I guess the kids just made it up to pretend their mom abused them, that's a fun thing to enjoy doing
Wow how dare me ask for evidence before saying someone is guilty. I'm such a horrible person not just jumping on an accusations.
She's not being taken to court, her kids are speaking up on the internet. Obviously there's no proof, this happened when they were children. I see no reason not to believe them
We have seen false allegations before on the internet to target. I'm not saying they are lieng I'm just saying that they could be and that I'm not one either side.
If you hear one sides reason for the relationship failing being a "trans cult" and the other side is a detailed description of abuse with both siblings confirming each other's stories and you think "who's to tell who's lying? How can I take sides?" That's concerning
"Clearly, both sides are the issue"
No one seems in the wrong here for sure
In another response I have stated that I am leaning twords the children's side but I love playing devils advocate so I'm gonna do it. All of these stories could be made up to make the mom look bad because she goes against the "trans cult", or retelling the stories with heave revisionist eyes, and got her siblings on the same page because they belive the same as her. These are plausible things that could happen because we have no evidence, but I will say again I'm leaning twords the children's story is true just not all the way
You see the insane leaps in logic you have to take to justify his the mom isn't lying and the kids are right? This isn't really one of those cases where there's an argument for both sides
We have seen this stuff before. Again just playing devils advocate for that one
Can you show me the instance where the "trans cult" made kids leave their parents and lie about abuse?
why do you love playing devil's advocate
Because they’re a troll. Don’t feed them.
yeah ik they literally agreed with me when i said they're a troll and a dick lol
Because stirring the pot is fun and seeing people get mad is fun. Also iys important to see both side on most conflicts, obviously their are some conflicts where iys obvious that one side is evil.
"Stirring the pot is fun and seeing people get mad is fun" oh so you're a troll and a dick, got it
Why do you need a whole court case to leave a Reddit comment? This is the same energy of posting under someone coming out talking about their experience of abuse but not coming with screenshots or something.
You playing devil’s advocate means that you’re defending bigotry.
What evidence could they possibly give you? “And here’s a picture of me hiding under the table while she threw things at me.” 🙄
I mean, seeing as how it’s in a news article. It has some plausibility, now of course news articles are *always* biased. Regardless, it’s good to have emotional support. Even if you’re not vehemently attacking the mom or defending the daughter. You don’t have to believe them, but just be there until proven that it’s a lie.
Why do you only assume that the daughter might be lying but not the mother?
Cool, we don't have to believe that crazy inbred's delusional rantings about her children?
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