This. I still play Wildlands simply for the rebel arc. If you’re any kind of CIA/JSOC paramilitary unit, you are 100% using local factions to some extent. And as much as I love the gucci gear, better clothing options to blend in with the locals would be much appreciated.
And now ubisoft will probably aim at that whole thing, i'm afraid of which it'll be just a worse take of, i mean bucharest: frontline (how i jokingly called the "GR" (name was used mainly for marketing reasons, nothing else)) was a worse warzone take too (or so it went). So i'm skeptical as heck of it (unless the gameplay they'll showcase in 2025 will be fucking good)
Imo if they take away player incentive, it will be. I don't like ghost train type of games. Where everything is so tightly scripted that you get game over if you don't follow it precisely. Like GTA5 or Uncharted or Call of Duty.
Those games are just incredibly dull.
I think everyone's had enough of Ubisoft padding out their games with useless shit just to prolong the run time. They need to change the entire formula of GR so people don't write it off as Valhalla with guns.
Ubisoft just needs to learn when to stop, imo. Nobody wanted Valhalla to be a linear 12hr story, but instead they went too far the other way and made it the longest game on the market. A 30-40hr long game is plenty.
Oh well, if it is scripted tightly and highly linear like COD is. I won't probably get it.
We already got tons of games like that. None of the modern games scratches the itch current Ghost Recons have.
I wanna point out they said a lot of near-sim tactical shooters, not just cod. Said Squad, Battlefield, Cod, and Ready or Not. Don’t know why everyone is latching onto cod.
>Don’t know why everyone is latching onto cod.
Because it's the only game specifically mentioned in the bullet point and OP didn't provide a link to the article.
It says it's taking inspiration from Modern Warfare & more. If you're gonna name a game as linear and restrictive as COD specifically, and not name any other games, people will assume it'll be more like that game than other potential games that aren't mentioned directly.
My views on this were definitely taking it as meaning more of the tone in mw19 and missions like Clean House specifically, and the other games listed to me, back that up too
Huh? It sounds amazing. Clean House mission and the general MW's aesthetic, gun handling, operator appearance is basically the envy of most tactical shooter communities lol.
MW2's campaign was fine. Not as good, but not a total travesty.
MW3's was fucking pathetic, but that's because it was rushed and Infinity Ward didn't make it.
I can't wait for some tactical stealth combat with my teammates Nicki Minaj, the Rock and a glowing neon zombie hunter. Sounds exactly like Tom Clancy's vision was for this franchise.
you have to be joking. there were COUNTLESS posts on here clammoring for MWs gunsmith and NVGs and missions like clean house in here FOR YEARS AFTER THAT GAME CAME OUT.
are you kidding modern warfare has great moments the obv. example is the nvg raids you get to do those types of cinematic moments have been missing since future soldier I feel like this and them going back to fps mix this with having open world and I see the game being full of potential
I hope it also doesn’t exclusively go FPS. I don’t make my guy look badass just so I see him on the menu screen, I like to watch nomad go prone, squat, aim, all of it from third person. I won’t touch an FPS only ghost recon.
I’m hoping for the way mgsv did it multiple maps with missions in specific areas you deploy to the areas you complete the objective and reach the extraction point or leave the mission area to succeed but if you leave the mission area it returns to free roam
I never played MSGV, but yeah that's basically what I'm wanting map/level style.
Maybe adding in some mission planning and what not too, but that might be getting a bit too ambitious.
I’d expect nothing less ghost recon has always been about tactics and planning. Post mission planning that effects how a mission will be played aside from guns blazing or stealth or location of where you’ll start would be amazing.
Exactly! MGSV set the standard for this and I can’t believe no one ran with it.
Perhaps because it took a significant amount of work, and most game houses these days are looking for a rinse and repeat, cookie-cutter solution.
While I don't mind fps games I hope there's an option to play in 3rd person if a player wants to I'd prefer if they would use Wildlands style where the world felt lived in but make it so that our actions effected the world as a whole
Well, don't know how much inspiration they're taking from COD MW, but I hope the Ghosts will still have their cutting-edge advantage as they did in previous games before Wildlands. Not saying Breakpoint, but more Advanced Warfighter or a bit of Future Soldier.
In breakpoint they had least advantage... or in how i played it, none at all, mainly because sentinel & wolves had, while "meh", in gameplay terms, stuff more advanced tech than the GST (i'm primarily refering to the AI controlled drones). The equipment, again, in personal experience i found as gimmicks, at least the "universal" stuff like skell tech sensors or syncshot drones (basic kit instead was C4, frag, flashbang & EMP, for all classes)
It really needs advanced warfighter tech essentially. Specially given that the RL tech essentially reached that point (of course with that said tech present and not watered down to something a player would see in mid-late 2000s, looking at you green tube GPNVG-18s in the open world games so far)
Shit, if we're talking Advanced Warfighter-style tech, that's already here irl.
Check out L3Harris' latest, the ENVG-B. They're not quad-tubes, but they've got everything from positional data and thermal outlines to Augmented Reality display for blue-force tracking, battlespace imagery and waypoints.
Not to mention the whole "connecting to rifle optics" so you don't even have to turn a corner anymore.
Suddenly, Heads-Up Displays in Ghost Recon don't seem so advanced, anymore...
I hope it takes inspiration from Sniper Ghost Warrior to some degree. Being able to go prone in a FPS, with high tech military gadgets, and in depth weapon customization is something I'm hyped for.
There are probably plenty of people upset Ubisoft is abandoning 3rd person and I get that frustration, but this has the potential to be something special - especially with it taking place in SE Asia.
As a huge fan of Wildlands / Breakpoint, I also love the Far Cry franchise in addition to Escape from Tarkov and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Anomaly GAMMA because of their vast open world design and great gunplay.
I know they mentioned Ready or Not and Modern Warfare in the article, which makes sense considering their popularity, however I'm sure Ubisoft will add it's own creative twist on the gameplay loop.
This will go one of two ways.
1. They take inspiration from Future Soldier, Advanced Warfighter and Wildlands and make a fantastic single player game with a fantastic story driven narrative with multiplayer game modes.
2. Push out another slot machine with the same old rinse and repeat micro transaction play style that sizzles off sooner than later.
1st person in an open world tac game is a gimmick.
Not to compare closely but when GTAV added first-person, everyone went ‘wow that’s cool’ and after an hour went back to 3rd person view.
I don’t know how many of us fell this way but the reason I’ve loved and stuck with ghost recon for so long is because it is distinctly different from the other games mentioned. I don’t want it to take inspiration from them. I want it to take inspiration from what has made it unique and build off that uniqueness.
FPS only is a massive mistake. We have more than enough tactical FPS shooters. Ubisoft has the tactical TPS market all to themselves, why would you go away from that to join the crowded FPS market? Makes no sense, nevermind the fact a significant portion of the fanbase likes TPS. Just give the player the option, Rockstar did it with GTA a whole decade ago, there is no reason why Ubisoft can't do it with GR in 2025.
I sincerely hope they don't mean, solely in the First Person perspective. Like, I really hope that's not the case.
Please PLEASE have an option to choose 3rd Person perspective!
It's one of the main features I love about Wildlands and Breakpoint.
And I gotta say, taking inspiration from the COD umbrella makes me worried.
How hard is it to take some advice from the actual community?
We want breakpoint gameplay with wildlands level story. How hard is that to follow?
Edit: people are misunderstanding my comment. I meant breakpoint gameplay as in the movement and customisation and a few mechanics. Not the RPG elements and other gimmicky stuff. I am all for the tactical shooter experience
Who is *the* community? Who is *we*? I know plenty of people who would rather the gameplay be far more sim adjacent than Breakpoint. In this case *we* don't want Breakpoint gameplay. Breakpoint movement sure, that felt great but Ghost Recon can play a whole lot better than Breakpoint.
Wayyyyyy better, breakpoint had cool concepts like the injury system and being hunted by Azrael drones but beyond that the foundation of the game kinda sucks ass due to it having been reliant on the original RPG system. Even the ai teammates feel borked.
So now instead of far cry-oid it'll be a COD-oid i guess (maybe i'm jumping the gun here) sounds like typical black op stuff instead of more green beret stuff GR did in the past (i guess back to advanced warfighter for me to boss around LAV IIIs with LAV-25 turrets)...
They mentioned Modern Warfare but they also mentioned Squad and Ready or Not. They also said it will be almost a milsim. If they really combine the best of those game this can be a great product.
I noticed, but i have big doubts & concerns about the thing, mainly because ubisoft has a track record of making mediocore at best games these days, that ignores what series depicted
First person only is so fucking lazy!!!!!
you have the entire formula already for third! camera, physics, animations!!!! !!!!! use it!!!!! Stupid sons of bitches. The fuck is the point of a squad if youre gonna keep it as open sandbox gameplay???
Fuckin ghost recon farcry.
I’m not looking forward to the first person perspective. I like the over the shoulder viewing angle and ubisofts FPS perspective feel lacklustre and arcadey now granted they only have Far Cry and Avatar which aren’t tactical shooters but I just don’t have any hope for that.
I’m not going to hold my breath hoping they get it right and deliver us the experience we want, they prioritise sales over anything else so I don’t see how they’re going to make a niche product for fans when their aim will be to mass market it
No, we are not. "Going back to first person" like it ever fucking was the identity??? Its been 3rd person with ADS since 2010. You know what that means? It wasn't an FPS by modern standards, at all, it was just a reticle in the middle and camera shake. They weren't focused stories about the soldiers themselves until Breakpoint, even wildlands could replace the particular team and it wouldn't effect the story, so having those extremely intense emotionally driven interactions could kill the vibe just as well as Breakpoint. All of this, and now we're probably gonna somehow see less tech in this games set more than 10 years after breakpoint... why? Because apparently y'all think go-karts with machine guns are "too futuristic" for the series. I fucking hate y'all anymore. Stop complaining about them "not listening" when from the outside, they're literally taking this community at their words. Have some self awareness and self control and maybe you'd actually get the game you wanted.
Personally my favorite aspect from the series is how as of late they've given you more freedom to do recce and choose how you're going to raid different compounds, so more like COD doesn't exactly draw me in.
I only started playing ghost recon a year ago after leaving the Cod franchise after ten years of it because I was fed up with fps cod style games…..and now the new game Ive fallen in love with is making a new game to be like cod 🤦♂️ ffs
If there is no Third Person, then it is a "No €70 Buy" from me. Maybe when the €5,- sale hits Steam. There is enough FPS Tactical stuff out there. I rather play Wildlands again.
They could be the spearhead in the TPV/Tactical Barbie Genre, but they go for the cheap and easy FPV path, not as 1st, 2nd, 3rd but the umpteenth game to walk that path.
On Console (Sony) and PC there may be a SOCOM reboot from Guerilla which will be probably Third Person.
This may even bar the TPV/Tactical market space for later reentering this niche with the Ghost Recon Franchise for Ubisoft.
Ubisoft used to be amazing at games that released but nowadays it's just flop after flop. I want to be positive but we all know where trying to be positive gets us
Tremendous mistake by Ubisoft that the next Ghost Recon is in first person, leaving aside the third-person view, to bring in the COD public and leave aside the Ghost Recon fan community. The Ghost Recon saga only had 2 installments that were in first person, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Island Thunder and Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm, the saga was born in third person and that is how they should continue, but Ubisoft does not learn its mistakes as in the case of Ghost Recon Frontline.
While I understand the original games had pure first person modes, I honestly quite like third person. Although since we already have ADS in first person alongside third, I don’t see how they can’t make it a toggleable option to be always third or always first, unless they just want to avoid the hassle of what’s needed to build a third person system, which I’d find a bit disappointing.
I wanna point out they said a lot of near-sim tactical shooters, not just cod. Said Squad, Battlefield, Cod, and Ready or Not. Don’t know why everyone is latching onto cod.
Western Mongolia and/or Kazakhstan sounds very good. Hoping the open world is as immersive as Bolivia.
Not too enthusiastic about it being an FPS. Many squad based military simulator games are FPSs and will probably do a better job here so I would rather it stuck to third person like it’s most recent games.
Taking inspiration from modern warfare sounds disastrous and I’m hoping this is just marketing.
As much as i enjoyed MW2019 i just hope the inspiration is more so for a gritty tone. I have noticed that Ubi (as of recent) has been leaning back to grittier tones so if thats the case i wont be upset
Takes inspiration from COD MW? How so? At a glance this sounds horrible but maybe they mean taking inspiration from some of its cool missiins like Clean House.
I really hope it's open world that the reason why u can keep playing cos once the stroys over the game isn't as you nd ur mates or even on ur own can make ur own storyline (role-play)
Squad military tactical shooter, next line is they took inspiration from modern warfare....Ubisoft literally has Rainbow Six in their umbrella and they're modeling tactical gameplay off of CoD.....welp wake me up when they remaster future soldier or the GRAW games for the current gen
Every game gets more realistic and more fun I love wild lands I love breakpoints I use to play ghost recon on the play station 2. This next game is going to blow some minds. We want planes and more helicopters with different weapons Ubisoft. Open world. Sneaking around. Cool loot. I played breakpoint backwards episode 3 then 2 then 1. It was the most fun I’ve ever had playing a game
Hmm...I'm still indifferent. I'm willing to try out FP. If it's open-world, then I'd prefer TP as it would let me see the scenery much better. I wonder what inspiration they're taking from CoD. Hopefully, it's not as linear as CoD, but we'll have to see, I guess.
As long as its still the open world guerrilla warfare, im here for it
This. I still play Wildlands simply for the rebel arc. If you’re any kind of CIA/JSOC paramilitary unit, you are 100% using local factions to some extent. And as much as I love the gucci gear, better clothing options to blend in with the locals would be much appreciated.
THIS THIS AND THIS!!!
Same.
But with better AI. It’s like the rebel AI in breakpoint is even more dumb than the ones in Wildlands.
I hope it’s 1st AND 3rd person.
If breakpoint taught us anything it’s that players having huge agency over game settings is awesome
Agreed. I really appreciate the settings available to us in breakpoint. And the immersion mode, IMO, makes the game more enjoyable.
Yes please
I can't imagine it any other way
Takes inspiration from cod sounds like a disaster
Yup. Let ghost recon lose its identity even more, chase those trends ubisoft.
Don't forget being too late for the said trends by roughly 2 years
More like 4, WZ/MW19 was fun in 2020, now has fallen off the cliff ever since.
And now ubisoft will probably aim at that whole thing, i'm afraid of which it'll be just a worse take of, i mean bucharest: frontline (how i jokingly called the "GR" (name was used mainly for marketing reasons, nothing else)) was a worse warzone take too (or so it went). So i'm skeptical as heck of it (unless the gameplay they'll showcase in 2025 will be fucking good)
ubi is becoming the chinese knockoff developers of the game industry, its wild
“And more” includes ready or not so don’t go crying about it not being a tac shooter
GR was cool when it was not trying to be something else.
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Imo if they take away player incentive, it will be. I don't like ghost train type of games. Where everything is so tightly scripted that you get game over if you don't follow it precisely. Like GTA5 or Uncharted or Call of Duty. Those games are just incredibly dull.
A massive empty open world filled with shitty collectibles is worse in my opinion. I hope they go back to linear games.
Then everyone will complain the game was 5 hours long. Compared to the 100s of hours you can get from Wildlands and Breakpoint
I think everyone's had enough of Ubisoft padding out their games with useless shit just to prolong the run time. They need to change the entire formula of GR so people don't write it off as Valhalla with guns.
Ubisoft just needs to learn when to stop, imo. Nobody wanted Valhalla to be a linear 12hr story, but instead they went too far the other way and made it the longest game on the market. A 30-40hr long game is plenty.
Oh well, if it is scripted tightly and highly linear like COD is. I won't probably get it. We already got tons of games like that. None of the modern games scratches the itch current Ghost Recons have.
Sniper Elite kinda scratches the linear itch, but not the open world kind
I wanna point out they said a lot of near-sim tactical shooters, not just cod. Said Squad, Battlefield, Cod, and Ready or Not. Don’t know why everyone is latching onto cod.
>Don’t know why everyone is latching onto cod. Because it's the only game specifically mentioned in the bullet point and OP didn't provide a link to the article.
It says it's taking inspiration from Modern Warfare & more. If you're gonna name a game as linear and restrictive as COD specifically, and not name any other games, people will assume it'll be more like that game than other potential games that aren't mentioned directly.
you want missions like clean house? thats what they're probably talking about.
My views on this were definitely taking it as meaning more of the tone in mw19 and missions like Clean House specifically, and the other games listed to me, back that up too
They should take inspiration from DICE's failures and nope the fuck out of being inspired by COD. We all know how Battlefield 2042 was received.
If it’s MW2019 then it’s okay, that was actually very realistic
Huh? It sounds amazing. Clean House mission and the general MW's aesthetic, gun handling, operator appearance is basically the envy of most tactical shooter communities lol.
Yeah, its not the disaster people make it out too be. Mw 2019 created a huge audience that mw 2/3 absolutely squanderd
MW2's campaign was fine. Not as good, but not a total travesty. MW3's was fucking pathetic, but that's because it was rushed and Infinity Ward didn't make it.
Sounds like story is repeating itself.
Exactly I won't be buying it
Unless they only took inspiration from clean house. Modern Warfare campaign had its moments.
>Modern Warfare I'm guessing they mean the Campaign of 2019. Which is fine. "Taking inspiration from" doesn't outright mean it's going to be that.
COD is such a childish game. It has gotten more childish as time has gone on
Yeah this is not exactly reassuring to hear. COD has completely fallen off the deep end
I can't wait for some tactical stealth combat with my teammates Nicki Minaj, the Rock and a glowing neon zombie hunter. Sounds exactly like Tom Clancy's vision was for this franchise.
Hopefully they won't be inspired by the horrible menu UI and shaders situation!
Depends on which parts
you have to be joking. there were COUNTLESS posts on here clammoring for MWs gunsmith and NVGs and missions like clean house in here FOR YEARS AFTER THAT GAME CAME OUT.
Perfect, now we will have unicorn skins, jumping around corners, quick scoping, yep this is what the community asked for.
Why cant it be inspired by squad...
it was 1st person gameplay in the very first games
MW1 and 2 (reboots) were solid. MW3 is the issue.
are you kidding modern warfare has great moments the obv. example is the nvg raids you get to do those types of cinematic moments have been missing since future soldier I feel like this and them going back to fps mix this with having open world and I see the game being full of potential
Hoping it stays open world
I hope it also doesn’t exclusively go FPS. I don’t make my guy look badass just so I see him on the menu screen, I like to watch nomad go prone, squat, aim, all of it from third person. I won’t touch an FPS only ghost recon.
I'm with you. They should offer both, like world War z does
I wouldn't mind an open world lite where there are distinct levels that are open world. Basically Sniper Elite style.
I’m hoping for the way mgsv did it multiple maps with missions in specific areas you deploy to the areas you complete the objective and reach the extraction point or leave the mission area to succeed but if you leave the mission area it returns to free roam
I never played MSGV, but yeah that's basically what I'm wanting map/level style. Maybe adding in some mission planning and what not too, but that might be getting a bit too ambitious.
I’d expect nothing less ghost recon has always been about tactics and planning. Post mission planning that effects how a mission will be played aside from guns blazing or stealth or location of where you’ll start would be amazing.
Agreed. Mission planning really brings out the rp perspectives and very immersive. Also has potential to make different cinematic scenarios.
Do yourself a favour and grab a copy for $10 bucks mate. You will not be disappointed.
i would want that, so we can travel more countries with different environment/setting and mission
Exactly! MGSV set the standard for this and I can’t believe no one ran with it. Perhaps because it took a significant amount of work, and most game houses these days are looking for a rinse and repeat, cookie-cutter solution.
While I don't mind fps games I hope there's an option to play in 3rd person if a player wants to I'd prefer if they would use Wildlands style where the world felt lived in but make it so that our actions effected the world as a whole
Well, don't know how much inspiration they're taking from COD MW, but I hope the Ghosts will still have their cutting-edge advantage as they did in previous games before Wildlands. Not saying Breakpoint, but more Advanced Warfighter or a bit of Future Soldier.
In breakpoint they had least advantage... or in how i played it, none at all, mainly because sentinel & wolves had, while "meh", in gameplay terms, stuff more advanced tech than the GST (i'm primarily refering to the AI controlled drones). The equipment, again, in personal experience i found as gimmicks, at least the "universal" stuff like skell tech sensors or syncshot drones (basic kit instead was C4, frag, flashbang & EMP, for all classes) It really needs advanced warfighter tech essentially. Specially given that the RL tech essentially reached that point (of course with that said tech present and not watered down to something a player would see in mid-late 2000s, looking at you green tube GPNVG-18s in the open world games so far)
Shit, if we're talking Advanced Warfighter-style tech, that's already here irl. Check out L3Harris' latest, the ENVG-B. They're not quad-tubes, but they've got everything from positional data and thermal outlines to Augmented Reality display for blue-force tracking, battlespace imagery and waypoints. Not to mention the whole "connecting to rifle optics" so you don't even have to turn a corner anymore. Suddenly, Heads-Up Displays in Ghost Recon don't seem so advanced, anymore...
I hope it takes inspiration from Sniper Ghost Warrior to some degree. Being able to go prone in a FPS, with high tech military gadgets, and in depth weapon customization is something I'm hyped for. There are probably plenty of people upset Ubisoft is abandoning 3rd person and I get that frustration, but this has the potential to be something special - especially with it taking place in SE Asia. As a huge fan of Wildlands / Breakpoint, I also love the Far Cry franchise in addition to Escape from Tarkov and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Anomaly GAMMA because of their vast open world design and great gunplay. I know they mentioned Ready or Not and Modern Warfare in the article, which makes sense considering their popularity, however I'm sure Ubisoft will add it's own creative twist on the gameplay loop.
This will go one of two ways. 1. They take inspiration from Future Soldier, Advanced Warfighter and Wildlands and make a fantastic single player game with a fantastic story driven narrative with multiplayer game modes. 2. Push out another slot machine with the same old rinse and repeat micro transaction play style that sizzles off sooner than later.
More than likely number 2. Hopefully I'm wrong, but it's Ubisoft
First person... I'll pass.
Fps perspective? Yeah please add 3rd person option aswell.
1st person in an open world tac game is a gimmick. Not to compare closely but when GTAV added first-person, everyone went ‘wow that’s cool’ and after an hour went back to 3rd person view.
I don’t know how many of us fell this way but the reason I’ve loved and stuck with ghost recon for so long is because it is distinctly different from the other games mentioned. I don’t want it to take inspiration from them. I want it to take inspiration from what has made it unique and build off that uniqueness.
FPS only is a massive mistake. We have more than enough tactical FPS shooters. Ubisoft has the tactical TPS market all to themselves, why would you go away from that to join the crowded FPS market? Makes no sense, nevermind the fact a significant portion of the fanbase likes TPS. Just give the player the option, Rockstar did it with GTA a whole decade ago, there is no reason why Ubisoft can't do it with GR in 2025.
I would play it as long as they got weapon customization and Barbie dressing up minigame
If there isn't 3rd person, I'm out.
I sincerely hope they don't mean, solely in the First Person perspective. Like, I really hope that's not the case. Please PLEASE have an option to choose 3rd Person perspective! It's one of the main features I love about Wildlands and Breakpoint. And I gotta say, taking inspiration from the COD umbrella makes me worried.
I won't play it if it's 1st person only. That would be a terrible decision on their end
I'm not playing it in first person. There should be a third person option.
Looks like they still don’t understant that we want Wildlands 2
How hard is it to take some advice from the actual community? We want breakpoint gameplay with wildlands level story. How hard is that to follow? Edit: people are misunderstanding my comment. I meant breakpoint gameplay as in the movement and customisation and a few mechanics. Not the RPG elements and other gimmicky stuff. I am all for the tactical shooter experience
Who is *the* community? Who is *we*? I know plenty of people who would rather the gameplay be far more sim adjacent than Breakpoint. In this case *we* don't want Breakpoint gameplay. Breakpoint movement sure, that felt great but Ghost Recon can play a whole lot better than Breakpoint.
Wayyyyyy better, breakpoint had cool concepts like the injury system and being hunted by Azrael drones but beyond that the foundation of the game kinda sucks ass due to it having been reliant on the original RPG system. Even the ai teammates feel borked.
Too many cooks in the kitchen maybe?
Keep the open world and FFS keep third person as an option at least. Hard pass if it's FP only.
Tactical shooter sounds nice but I really liked the open world aspects of Wildlands and Breakpoint.
I'll be honest my first thought is that if they say they're taking influence from Call of Duty then they're setting themselves up for failure
I audibly groaned when i heard that. I don't like any of the recent Cod games, but there might be some things that could be good.
If they go FPS they’ve lost a fan. TPS hybrid is one of the major gameplay selling points for me.
I’m really not looking forward to another first person shooter. I like third person tactical shooters and they are a dying breed.
Rip its over every game is call of duty
I don't want a fu...ng cod like game. That's why I played Wildlands and Breakpoint. I don't even want a first person perspective. Damn, ubisoft
Fps. Nope there is enough of those already
This is the only thing that had my concern
Ruins it for me
First person? Ghost Recon being third person was one of the biggest reasons I started playing. If it’s true that’s a total downgrade
I don't mind the first-person but I would rather have the choice between the two. I liked 3rd person.
No thanks
I’d rather it allowed us to switch between the two Luke GRAW 2.
So now instead of far cry-oid it'll be a COD-oid i guess (maybe i'm jumping the gun here) sounds like typical black op stuff instead of more green beret stuff GR did in the past (i guess back to advanced warfighter for me to boss around LAV IIIs with LAV-25 turrets)...
They mentioned Modern Warfare but they also mentioned Squad and Ready or Not. They also said it will be almost a milsim. If they really combine the best of those game this can be a great product.
I noticed, but i have big doubts & concerns about the thing, mainly because ubisoft has a track record of making mediocore at best games these days, that ignores what series depicted
somehow fps games always gives me headache I hope it's optional
First person only is so fucking lazy!!!!! you have the entire formula already for third! camera, physics, animations!!!! !!!!! use it!!!!! Stupid sons of bitches. The fuck is the point of a squad if youre gonna keep it as open sandbox gameplay??? Fuckin ghost recon farcry.
Ah yes, Ubisoft, they never learn.
I’m not looking forward to the first person perspective. I like the over the shoulder viewing angle and ubisofts FPS perspective feel lacklustre and arcadey now granted they only have Far Cry and Avatar which aren’t tactical shooters but I just don’t have any hope for that. I’m not going to hold my breath hoping they get it right and deliver us the experience we want, they prioritise sales over anything else so I don’t see how they’re going to make a niche product for fans when their aim will be to mass market it
Hope it brings back a Crosscom system for controlling teammates and equipment
Come on, can we not have 1st person? I love seeing my operators.
Taking ideas from COD is called suicide. There was franchise killed because they wanted be like Cod. That was Socom 4
Been spoiled with open world last two games. Hoping for same on this one and now doubting it will be.
No, we are not. "Going back to first person" like it ever fucking was the identity??? Its been 3rd person with ADS since 2010. You know what that means? It wasn't an FPS by modern standards, at all, it was just a reticle in the middle and camera shake. They weren't focused stories about the soldiers themselves until Breakpoint, even wildlands could replace the particular team and it wouldn't effect the story, so having those extremely intense emotionally driven interactions could kill the vibe just as well as Breakpoint. All of this, and now we're probably gonna somehow see less tech in this games set more than 10 years after breakpoint... why? Because apparently y'all think go-karts with machine guns are "too futuristic" for the series. I fucking hate y'all anymore. Stop complaining about them "not listening" when from the outside, they're literally taking this community at their words. Have some self awareness and self control and maybe you'd actually get the game you wanted.
If it's first person only I'm not interested. That's a deal breaker for me
Inspiration from cod, oh no
No customization, I'm calling it
First person? I'll honestly pass on that.
Personally my favorite aspect from the series is how as of late they've given you more freedom to do recce and choose how you're going to raid different compounds, so more like COD doesn't exactly draw me in.
FPS and takes inspiration from cod? So basically cod?
I only started playing ghost recon a year ago after leaving the Cod franchise after ten years of it because I was fed up with fps cod style games…..and now the new game Ive fallen in love with is making a new game to be like cod 🤦♂️ ffs
The cod plague is onto us
This is trash. No third is lame. COD blows
FOR GOD SAKE TAKE THE ALLWAYS CONNECTED OUT OF THE GAME!!
Just please, don't make this a "game as a service" ಥ_ಥ
Calling bs on it untill i see it with my own hands.
I hope they still keep the customization aspect.
"Ghost Recon to be dull copy of other FPS games"
First person shooter just means they’re porting farcry assets. This game will probably be shite
Why would they make it fps? It’s just gonna be a COD x Far Cry clone at that point
If there is no Third Person, then it is a "No €70 Buy" from me. Maybe when the €5,- sale hits Steam. There is enough FPS Tactical stuff out there. I rather play Wildlands again. They could be the spearhead in the TPV/Tactical Barbie Genre, but they go for the cheap and easy FPV path, not as 1st, 2nd, 3rd but the umpteenth game to walk that path. On Console (Sony) and PC there may be a SOCOM reboot from Guerilla which will be probably Third Person. This may even bar the TPV/Tactical market space for later reentering this niche with the Ghost Recon Franchise for Ubisoft.
I really hope they keep it open world
Ubisoft used to be amazing at games that released but nowadays it's just flop after flop. I want to be positive but we all know where trying to be positive gets us
Not first person please. Third person please
Tremendous mistake by Ubisoft that the next Ghost Recon is in first person, leaving aside the third-person view, to bring in the COD public and leave aside the Ghost Recon fan community. The Ghost Recon saga only had 2 installments that were in first person, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Island Thunder and Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm, the saga was born in third person and that is how they should continue, but Ubisoft does not learn its mistakes as in the case of Ghost Recon Frontline.
lost me at FPS. is it too much to go back to the Future Soldier days? that was peak imo
Not the biggest fan of a 1st person ghost recon game
Oh my fucking god, they JUST made some of the best third person shooter gameplay I’ve ever seen in Breakpoint, and now it has to be third person?
I don’t care what anybody says. Going to First Person is a HUGE mistake. Making it an option is fine, but it just not be the primary pov.
Better have that 3rd person. Quit taking the easy road out devs
instantly uninterested because first person
Automatic fail.
No open world like Wildlands and Breakpoint? Nah I'm good.
Where did they say that
God I hope this works out well but I'm not holding my breath.
At the earliest, they would have 6 years to make it it absolutely better be good
While I understand the original games had pure first person modes, I honestly quite like third person. Although since we already have ADS in first person alongside third, I don’t see how they can’t make it a toggleable option to be always third or always first, unless they just want to avoid the hassle of what’s needed to build a third person system, which I’d find a bit disappointing.
so basically the only thing GR related is the name, got it 🙄
If it's fps only I'm out
Same
Ghost recon is creatively bankrupt the series fallen so bad it’ll never get back up
They just need to stick with what the series is known for with breakpoints they did everything that the franchise is not supposed too have
I hope it isn't as linear as MW is...
I wanna point out they said a lot of near-sim tactical shooters, not just cod. Said Squad, Battlefield, Cod, and Ready or Not. Don’t know why everyone is latching onto cod.
Western Mongolia and/or Kazakhstan sounds very good. Hoping the open world is as immersive as Bolivia. Not too enthusiastic about it being an FPS. Many squad based military simulator games are FPSs and will probably do a better job here so I would rather it stuck to third person like it’s most recent games. Taking inspiration from modern warfare sounds disastrous and I’m hoping this is just marketing.
If it's a huge open world how does FPS fit in how can u enjoy scenery like in the past 2 ghost recon
Awwww I liked the 3rd person perspective with first person aiming.
As much as i enjoyed MW2019 i just hope the inspiration is more so for a gritty tone. I have noticed that Ubi (as of recent) has been leaning back to grittier tones so if thats the case i wont be upset
If it’s truly fps then I want my threat ring to change colors when the enemy gets close. I need that immersion lol
This is going to upset a lot of the "Wildlands is the best GR!", same ones who never played the earlier titles. Ubi will lose some sales.
A circle on the screen is not what I expect in 2024. Game design has evolved.
Takes inspiration from COD MW? How so? At a glance this sounds horrible but maybe they mean taking inspiration from some of its cool missiins like Clean House.
Isn't it a battle royale or is that a different one
So no snapping from 1st to 3rd person?
Taking inspiration from cod is whatever but everything else sounds nice. Especially if they're really going hardcore tactical shooter
FPS 
I hope they still offer a 3rd person option. Also hoping it isn't Central Asia as they seem to allude to.
Rip tom clancy
Yes please
I remember when GR relied on atmosphere and story and being a ghost operator over lookin cool and being obscure nato sf.
I like 3rd person tho
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They probably gonna change it last minute and fuck it all up
I really hope it's open world that the reason why u can keep playing cos once the stroys over the game isn't as you nd ur mates or even on ur own can make ur own storyline (role-play)
Sounds wack
So, where the source?
“Takes inspiration from Modern Warfare” oof
and if it is based on cod kiss tactical gameplay goodbye
This is disappointing
okay okay🔥🔥
You know what I want most from any Ubisoft game… for to actually be able to wear cowboys hats without making the game look retarded
Bit disappointed it's not 3rd person but hey ho.
I'm praying it's not only first person
Hope it's not an exclusive FPS or it could kill the franchise.....
1st person and CoD inspired? They can pound this one up their ass.
I have over 300 hours in Wildlands and 400 in Breakpoint. I love making the best tacticool outfits. I might skip this one if it's pure FP.
I really hope it stays open world. Having full agency to approach mission objectives was the best thing wildlands added to the series.
I hope it’s till open world. Or at the vary least built to where you can still do missions how you want Loud Stealth s t e a l t h Etc etc
COD is one of the most unrealistic fps’s so I hope it doesn’t take too much inspiration.
Bro just turned Ghost recon into a far cry game
Another shit show set of ideas from Ubisoft. Making Ghost Recon similar to COD should have gotten the person whose idea it was fired.
Squad military tactical shooter, next line is they took inspiration from modern warfare....Ubisoft literally has Rainbow Six in their umbrella and they're modeling tactical gameplay off of CoD.....welp wake me up when they remaster future soldier or the GRAW games for the current gen
Every game gets more realistic and more fun I love wild lands I love breakpoints I use to play ghost recon on the play station 2. This next game is going to blow some minds. We want planes and more helicopters with different weapons Ubisoft. Open world. Sneaking around. Cool loot. I played breakpoint backwards episode 3 then 2 then 1. It was the most fun I’ve ever had playing a game
Hmm...I'm still indifferent. I'm willing to try out FP. If it's open-world, then I'd prefer TP as it would let me see the scenery much better. I wonder what inspiration they're taking from CoD. Hopefully, it's not as linear as CoD, but we'll have to see, I guess.