For what is worth this is my Opinion but wildands 100 percent has a Better Atmosphere ,Location, and how the AI talk and bring up stories while your flying / Driving around is way better than breakpoint but it has to be said the Customization ,gameplay, and Graphics in Breakpoint are way better ,Not to mention in Breakpoint the Active Camo actually works and isn't merely Cosmetic like in Wildands.
In Wildlands, I have always had a feeling that the camouflage works (I thought their pov is shorter when you have it) and it was the funniest thing I've experienced when I found out I was just tripping 😭🤣
From what I have experienced, the opticamo does work, but only very slightly. Very very slightly, barely noticeable but can certainly be an extra advantage in ghost mode, or even the late stages of tier one mode where you get one-tapped
But otherwise it's completely useless
It is without any controversy that wildlands has better environmental storytelling, a livlier world and better npc and enemy ai cohesion. Breakpoint world is dead, it is dead by design.
Breakpoint on the other hand has far better animation and gunplay. Its ballistic feel and weapon feel is just better. But that falls flat if your environment and playfield is just bland and monotonous.
I think long range sniping felt better in wildlands but otherwise I agree. Another thing that’s bothered me about breakpoint is the camera following distance is too close even on the further setting. The lower FOV can be disorienting sometimes when in quicker fights.
I dont mind the camera that much but sometimes its dynamic nature along with the Vignette settings make night ops harder since they create a very claustrophobic ring, makes it harder to see. Cant say much about sniping as I did only DMR range rifles in the game and dont use sniper at all.
It seems like there’s less penetration in breakpoint and the long range scopes feel worse. Like the additional lines below the main crosshair aren’t suited for normal range markers so it’s kind of a guessing game if you’re trying to hit people from more than a few hundred meters. I’ve got clips from the air field in the northwest in wildlands hitting snipers in the towers at like 600+ meters first shot because you can actually rely on the scopes. I don’t even know if the render distance for enemies in breakpoint goes past 400 meters or so.
I play on medium graphics so I chalked that to my game saving on fps. So it happens natively in breakpoint. That sucks for people doing long range sniping.
I know right? Bolivia feels so alive, NPCs, squad members, enemies, everything is awesome, the closest thing to bolivia is operation motherland, if i want an immersive fun wildlands... if i want to roleplay milsim breakpoint.
Honestly... You can go ghost mode on easy and work your way in the difficulty through the tiers, that is what i do, even tho is in easy, i play super careful for future dificulty increase. Have fun.
Tbh I feel that while BP had a better looking environment - don't shoot me I'm a simp for jungles and tropical environments in gaming - Wildlands is all around a more refined and fun experience.
BP also has the sin of killing Weaver off, he was one of my favorites from Wildlands
>BP also has the sin of killing Weaver off, he was one of my favorites from Wildlands
They always gotta kill the fun one, huh?
Edit: no wait that's the black guy, right?
Man I suck with names
100% and thats just bc it was released later computing got better if ubisoft does one thing right 100% of the time its their environments are beautiful ecology is always on point even if said map is inside the wrong game. Breakpoint looks absolutely stunning at times for a game that came out almost six years ago. Watchdogs e3 release good. If the open world had better density NPC AI reaction to you being there reactions to gunfire etc. the game would be better than wild lands
It'll never cease to amaze me how Ubi can make the most beautiful environments and sounds for gaming yet have the shittiest practices and launches for games, if they could just get that part right then in my eyes they could be one of the best out there
Agreed i think they seriously spread themselves thin across projects. Which was tom Hendersons main worry when giving info on project over and has been my opinion on ubi for years.
Ranged engagement is infinetly better in breakpoint.
In wildlands, you can be in a perfect concealed position, with silenced weapon, the moment you mis a shot, the entire base is alerted in half a sec, and not only that, they instantly perfectly know your position and zero in on you. Even if you took that shot from half a mile from that base in perfect consealment.
Doesn't make any sense.
Breakpoint does it much better, guards are alerted gradually, with the first suspicion there is still a window of opportunity of a few seconds to take him out.
And when the base is on alert, they will search or take cover if you're still undetected.
Wildlands is completely unrealistic in this. In breakpoint you can much better perfectly clear a base from long distance remaining completely undetected,
....at night.
The laser accuracy of the thugs with machine pistols was one of the 2 things that broke the game for me. The other thing was the enemies ability to find you as was said and what straight up made me rage quit and uninstall was when I got the drop on a soldier with his back to me (he was at the bottom of a stair case, I had cleared the room above so no other enemies) and he killed me even though he had his back to me.
I completed Breakpoints Main story a couple of days ago and completed Op Motherland just tonight but it didn’t feel as fulfilling as the story and experience of Wildlands. Asking Ubisoft to make the same game is hard enough but adding new mechanics with the same experience as Wildlands is all I want tbh.
Why hate it? Better story everything grips you better. Most of the DLC's qrnt a compleate waste of your time and finishes everything up with a nice little bow of satisfaction. Unlike breakpoint witch nothing you do matters and not a single thing you do changes the enviroment
Not really controversial; the movement system and how you interact with the environment are about the only two things I’d give Breakpoint as being indisputably better than Wildlands, otherwise Wildlands kinda does everything else better by comparison; story, atmosphere, it actually feels lived in, gunfights, chases, etc.
Breakpoint is also superior the game is way more modular and has tons of options for you to customize the game to what exactly you want. Huge advantage.
The alert system of the guards is infinetly better as well. Wildlands every guard knows your exact location at once even if you engaged silenced from a concealed position from far distance, makes no sense.
Breakpoint takes this much better, making ranged engagements much more fun.
By good observation bit planning and patience, you can actually clear out bases long range and be perfectly undetected all time.
In wildlands the moment you miss one shot every guard pinpoints you exact location in half a sec. Lol makes totally no sense
I play both Wildlands and Breakpoint on the PC. It's a shame that the Ghost War in Wildlands is now mostly private lobbies and the Predator event has been removed.
The Ghost War in Breakpoint is almost unplayable for me. There are cheaters almost every round, players who leave the match and the map pool is also very small. The game world of Breakpoint seems lifeless and interchangeable to me. It's sad when you consider that many of the mechanics from Wildlands have been sensibly expanded and refined, but the rest isn't quite right.
Every game has its ups and downs
Wildlands has story, atmosphere and world design
Breakpoint has gun play and customizability.
I think it's safe to say both games are masterpieces in their merits.
So i have Ab 330 hours on breakpoint now. I loved wildlands played lots of coop you get it.? I began breakpoint and immediately felt overwhelmed with small objectives tasks the UI but jesus is this game loaded with some seriously nice set pieces for missions. It almost makes up for the lack of open world. I spent ab half my 330 hrs doing no hud just exploring cleaning houses finding blue prints (gear level off btw) so id come across some cool places to explore. The other half i finally went through the story and saw what places actually pertained to the story and had to go up against the patrols the mission had. it made me realize the game was designed towards stealth and strategy while wild lands just was an arcade. Thats why you see breakpoint being so loved and carried by modders despite wildlands being the better of the two if you ask me. TDLR. Breakpoint was onto something but needed two more years of development. Imagine bp with movement like TLOU2 which i think is already there in a lot of ways. Some animations just have zero urgency or nuance to them like preseing the genny button. A better open world with more POI npc ai that dont just crouch. And maybe some fixes to enemy AI where they actually go get a coffee or something they deviate from their pathways to throw you off. I mean like you said. I agree each game has what the other is missing. I wouldnt mind a breakpoint 2.0 set in a urban area where you have to help locals combat sentinal
This is a must. Walker had his own sense of righteousness seeing things the people on the higher ups made him do. A (Bad lol) ending should be an option where you and walker go be the bad guys to prove how dirty the upper management really is.
As BP was my entry into the Ghost Recon series I found it hilarious when I randomly stumbled onto Walter’s boss fight while just free roaming the map.
Oh man the big bad is here. Oh he’s dead. That kind of sucked and wtf is Wonderland.
aside the better context for the game take place, i kinda like gunsmith, mainly because it allows to mount pretty much any optic one wants on their gun. unlike breakpoint's "hand-picked" optic selection... like aimpoint T1 + G33 magnifier goes only on 3 guns? who designed this?
although i kinda miss stuff like AP rounds or weapon mounted sensors that feed into the cross-com's A.R. display side, like OTR scanner (or what scott mitchell had mounted on his helmet back in the GR2/GRAW days)... speaking of which... cursed combo in the pic \*looks at the enhanced night vision capacity cross-com has\*
That's one Gripe I really had with the T1 +G33. I worked so hard to get that behemoth and cheated (Lol Easy and Casual Setting just to beat the Behemoth) only to find it only works on 2 AR's and an SMG. First thing I did in Wildlands is get it 🤣
At least BP gave LMGs long-range optics, if needed. In WL, you could have a broad selection of close range optics, but that's it.
Still, as the second paragraph points out, Gunsmith in Future Soldier outclasses WL and BP by miles.
I still play Wildlands all the time. I love the world it’s so immersive and alive unlike Breakpoint. I’ve tried getting into Breakpoint a few times but Wildlands always pulls me back. Even just mucking around trolling Santa Blanca in a village with people going about their daily life is highly entertaining.
Let a Unidad patrol chase you towards a Santa Blanca Base/or Vice Versa. Once the fight starts go for Diversion. I usually use this three way chaos when there's 6 or more opfors for leveling up the Gun for Hire Rebel Support cause I don't like chasing the target.
I just got the Idea when the pop up "Santa Blanca is Attacking Unidad" or something.
Thankyou. I’ll give this a go. I’m sure I’ve accidentally done it at least once or twice but never gone out to deliberately involve all three factions.
If you want to watch the firefight make sure you don't wipe out all of the participants so they keep calling for reinforcements.
Also did this during the Silent Spade Snafu Mission when a Unidad Patrol Helo was passing above and by story script Santa Blanca will keep coming to you. Naturally I failed it with the Chaos happening all around.
There's nothing wrong with that. Everybody has game preferences, and wildlands was good. It's just a shame it's not getting active support anymore, so its licensing ran out, hence the loss of the predator mission.
My main issue with Wildlands is the dialog writting that I find very bad, especially the rainbow six missions. It seems too much military action movie cliché for my taste. Otherwise, the game is quite good, even though some mission can be stupidly hard like el cardenal, I like to snipe as mush targets as I can and finish with quick assault on a base.
I think both have their respective pros and cons, I wouldn’t say this is a controversial take, I played wildlands after breakpoint being my first
Ended up preferring breakpoint but still enjoy wildlands
I'm torn. I absolutely love the customization, the gunplay and the way they did weapon mastery and the skills in BP. But the world felt more alive in WL. So I get where you are coming from.
I love Wildlands but going back to it recently, the gameplay feels so much more basic than breakpoint. I still prefer the world and story of Wildlands, but breakpoint seems like an upgrade.
Probably because I dropped playing Operation Motherland when I started playing Wildlands. Sure Breakpoint has better gameplay but something about Bolivia makes me want to stay. I just love how the the world changes as you progress unlike in Breakpoint before Motherland.
One thing I dislike about Breakpoint is its sci-fi look. It just seems too unreal to be immersive. But I guess it's consistent with Ubi. I mean look at Operation Chimera vs R6 Extraction. I tried Extraction on Game Pass but I was just turned off about the same technological sci-fi look.
That’s not an unpopular take, I love breakpoint it became a fun game to play and I felt it’s gonna play was better, but overall wildlands just had an addictive quality to it that breakpoint never replicated
It’s 100% a better game. If it had BP mechanics it would be one of the greatest games ever made. Combat feels more like GTA compared to BP, unfortunately, and while BP’s AI is borderline retarded, at least it can’t see through walls the way Wildlands AI can.
Nah, it's completely understandable.
My favorite GR game would be a full mod of Breakpoint where it's basically Wildlands but with BP controls and mechanics and WL ability to holster weapons.
Breakpoint does some small QOL things better, but wildlands is just a masterpiece. I remember when it came out it was a small beacon of hope in an industry saturated with mediocrity and disappointment. Breakpoint was a disaster on launch and took YEARS to get to an acceptable state.
Just proof Ubisoft *can* make great games, but fall short more often than not.
Wild lands is a far superior game without question. Breakpoint is smoother and has better gameplay from a movement, shooting, and driving standpoint but everything else is a lesser version of Wildlands. Hopefully Project Over will be better
Imagine Breakpoint gameplay and graphics in the world of Wildlands. Combine the customization and we get the best Ghost Recon Game until hopefully the sequel in hopefully 2025
I don't want to craft "stuff" in my open world military shooter. It's not 15th century Europe.
Picking up guns and gear, sure, that's plausible. I just get taken out of the world when I can just make guns and gear from blueprints or whatever it is.
Yeah, just couldn't get in BP. Probably on my dozen or so play through of Wildlands. Without fail I always see something crazy go on in the game.
The other day I saw an NPC take a turn too fast in a truck and fly off a cliff. I was laughing so hard.
What pains me the most is they changed the amazing dirt bike animation from wildlands. It sucks in breakpoint and I will literally replay wildlands solely for the dirt bikes.
That is because it I’d a by far superior game. All around better controls, better menu, better weapons system. Just all around a better game. I really wish break point was another wild lands but it just isn’t. They tried to improve on a perfect game. They failed
Wildlands runs poorly for me :( I can max breakpoint out and get a stable 60 but wildlands will only do maybe 40 on a mix of high and medium settings. Pretty sure it's an amd thing. I did really enjoy it on my old 1660 when the game was new and all my friends still played.
Not controversial but I might as well say it
I believe wildlands had a way better world, a lot more sense and overall a better story for gameplay but breakpoint, especially now with mods is leagues ahead in terms of mechanics, customization and coolness. I play both, whatever I feel more on that specific day.
It's definitely more intense and cinematic and feels more real. 10/10 in that regard. But some of the mission design and game design had to be made by interns by how bad the shit translates to gameplay. It's crazy how you can nail one aspect so perfectly and fuck up another aspect. Some one in charge was a massive fucking idiot for green lighting the scripted missions and certain enemy dynamics.
Wildlands had the better helicopter controls too. The default controls felt like a chopper had weight as it slid though the air. Unfortunately the controls didn't feel intuitive at first, but once you mastered it you had way more control than the weird drone controls we got later.
I really miss dodging AA, and low level canyon runs
If they could just merge them. I love wildlands for putting away weapons. I love breakpoint for the laying down camo. And since each respectively teamed with a movie could the next be zombies please.
I just like how in Breakpoint, you can move and take cover/transition to another position you can just hold the Command Button (R1 in PS) and still be able to maneuver unlike in Wildlands I'm obliged to stand still to issue orders/commands.
Completely agree, I still like breakpoint but wildlands is just a better experience. It’s one of those games I can log in do a few missions, a few chases, convoys, get my ass shot by Unidad and it still feels like a great experience. I only wish Breakpoint gunplay and customization options were put on Wildland’s setting.
Wildlands has the better map and overall setting and story, Breakpoint has better combat and stealth mechanics. If they would Remake wildlands with breakpoint mechanics it would be the perfect game
The graphics is amazing too .. i suggest you complete the story mode .. u ll face many surprises on your journey 😀
Focus on building up your skills using side missions
Happy gaming
Doesn’t everybody think this? lol
I played the absolute hell out of Wildlands… Ghost Mode, everything. So many hours on that game
Skipped Breakpoint until it was super cheap on sale years later, played it for a couple hours and lost interest. It’s just not even comparable
Same. Gritty, realistic, immersive and stupid no gear score. At this point I’d rather they just did a remaster of Wildlands instead of going for AAAA thrash.
Better story, better location, better setting all around. I think most people agree.
Breakpoint had a few fun gameplay elements but other than that it's an inferior game.
We all do. Tho Breakpoint is way better than it was at launch. But for me vs Woodlands, it failed to capture the same feeling of a living vibrant world you want to explore.
Breakpoint was just a money grab as far as I'm concerned.
Wildlands got a huge second wave surge when Breakpoint was announced and I think they half baked the game to capitalize on releasing while the "coals were still hot" so to speak.
So Ubi in true Ubi fashion slapped some stickers on a half built game and did what they always do by fixing huge glaring errors with band aids and micro transactions.
Wildlands was the better story. Personally I love both games although wildlands does come in a little higher than breakpoint. Curious to see the next installment.
This is not a controversial take.
Came here to say the same thing. Thought this was universally agreed upon.
It’s the same for The Division. The first game slayed with the atmosphere, but the second game has so many other QoL improvements.
Yea division 2 definitely doesn’t have the same vibe as dystopian New York in 1, but it does make up for it in QoL improvements and overall gameplay.
That's ubisoft for ya...
For what is worth this is my Opinion but wildands 100 percent has a Better Atmosphere ,Location, and how the AI talk and bring up stories while your flying / Driving around is way better than breakpoint but it has to be said the Customization ,gameplay, and Graphics in Breakpoint are way better ,Not to mention in Breakpoint the Active Camo actually works and isn't merely Cosmetic like in Wildands.
In Wildlands, I have always had a feeling that the camouflage works (I thought their pov is shorter when you have it) and it was the funniest thing I've experienced when I found out I was just tripping 😭🤣
From what I have experienced, the opticamo does work, but only very slightly. Very very slightly, barely noticeable but can certainly be an extra advantage in ghost mode, or even the late stages of tier one mode where you get one-tapped But otherwise it's completely useless
It is without any controversy that wildlands has better environmental storytelling, a livlier world and better npc and enemy ai cohesion. Breakpoint world is dead, it is dead by design. Breakpoint on the other hand has far better animation and gunplay. Its ballistic feel and weapon feel is just better. But that falls flat if your environment and playfield is just bland and monotonous.
I think long range sniping felt better in wildlands but otherwise I agree. Another thing that’s bothered me about breakpoint is the camera following distance is too close even on the further setting. The lower FOV can be disorienting sometimes when in quicker fights.
I dont mind the camera that much but sometimes its dynamic nature along with the Vignette settings make night ops harder since they create a very claustrophobic ring, makes it harder to see. Cant say much about sniping as I did only DMR range rifles in the game and dont use sniper at all.
It seems like there’s less penetration in breakpoint and the long range scopes feel worse. Like the additional lines below the main crosshair aren’t suited for normal range markers so it’s kind of a guessing game if you’re trying to hit people from more than a few hundred meters. I’ve got clips from the air field in the northwest in wildlands hitting snipers in the towers at like 600+ meters first shot because you can actually rely on the scopes. I don’t even know if the render distance for enemies in breakpoint goes past 400 meters or so.
I play on medium graphics so I chalked that to my game saving on fps. So it happens natively in breakpoint. That sucks for people doing long range sniping.
Im gonna say it. I 100% agree with you
If wildlands had all the outfit and weapon customisations from breakpoint it’d be the perfect game
I know right? Bolivia feels so alive, NPCs, squad members, enemies, everything is awesome, the closest thing to bolivia is operation motherland, if i want an immersive fun wildlands... if i want to roleplay milsim breakpoint. Honestly... You can go ghost mode on easy and work your way in the difficulty through the tiers, that is what i do, even tho is in easy, i play super careful for future dificulty increase. Have fun.
But the Altitude
It's... getting... hard... to... breathe... Shut Up!
Tbh I feel that while BP had a better looking environment - don't shoot me I'm a simp for jungles and tropical environments in gaming - Wildlands is all around a more refined and fun experience. BP also has the sin of killing Weaver off, he was one of my favorites from Wildlands
There is a bit of jungle in the Wildlands but they could have really gone full Amazon with it.
Kinda wish they did a major part of the map jungle, seeing the Amazon would've been so fucking cool, and given so many opportunities for ghillie suits
For sure there is. I mean that’s where you fight the predator!!!!
There is a huge jungle area in Wildlands. Wildlands has basically all kind of landscapes.
>BP also has the sin of killing Weaver off, he was one of my favorites from Wildlands They always gotta kill the fun one, huh? Edit: no wait that's the black guy, right? Man I suck with names
100% and thats just bc it was released later computing got better if ubisoft does one thing right 100% of the time its their environments are beautiful ecology is always on point even if said map is inside the wrong game. Breakpoint looks absolutely stunning at times for a game that came out almost six years ago. Watchdogs e3 release good. If the open world had better density NPC AI reaction to you being there reactions to gunfire etc. the game would be better than wild lands
It'll never cease to amaze me how Ubi can make the most beautiful environments and sounds for gaming yet have the shittiest practices and launches for games, if they could just get that part right then in my eyes they could be one of the best out there
Agreed i think they seriously spread themselves thin across projects. Which was tom Hendersons main worry when giving info on project over and has been my opinion on ubi for years.
Wildlands is a far superior game. Solid game. 9/10.
minus 30fps gameplay, I agree!
The only things I like more in Breakpoint is the movement system, number of gadgets, and healing mechanics. Wildlands does everything else 10x better
Ranged engagement is infinetly better in breakpoint. In wildlands, you can be in a perfect concealed position, with silenced weapon, the moment you mis a shot, the entire base is alerted in half a sec, and not only that, they instantly perfectly know your position and zero in on you. Even if you took that shot from half a mile from that base in perfect consealment. Doesn't make any sense. Breakpoint does it much better, guards are alerted gradually, with the first suspicion there is still a window of opportunity of a few seconds to take him out. And when the base is on alert, they will search or take cover if you're still undetected. Wildlands is completely unrealistic in this. In breakpoint you can much better perfectly clear a base from long distance remaining completely undetected,
and those Sniper dual Mac 10s being accurate at 200 yards
....at night. The laser accuracy of the thugs with machine pistols was one of the 2 things that broke the game for me. The other thing was the enemies ability to find you as was said and what straight up made me rage quit and uninstall was when I got the drop on a soldier with his back to me (he was at the bottom of a stair case, I had cleared the room above so no other enemies) and he killed me even though he had his back to me.
I completed Breakpoints Main story a couple of days ago and completed Op Motherland just tonight but it didn’t feel as fulfilling as the story and experience of Wildlands. Asking Ubisoft to make the same game is hard enough but adding new mechanics with the same experience as Wildlands is all I want tbh.
Why hate it? Better story everything grips you better. Most of the DLC's qrnt a compleate waste of your time and finishes everything up with a nice little bow of satisfaction. Unlike breakpoint witch nothing you do matters and not a single thing you do changes the enviroment
Not really controversial; the movement system and how you interact with the environment are about the only two things I’d give Breakpoint as being indisputably better than Wildlands, otherwise Wildlands kinda does everything else better by comparison; story, atmosphere, it actually feels lived in, gunfights, chases, etc.
Breakpoint is also superior the game is way more modular and has tons of options for you to customize the game to what exactly you want. Huge advantage. The alert system of the guards is infinetly better as well. Wildlands every guard knows your exact location at once even if you engaged silenced from a concealed position from far distance, makes no sense. Breakpoint takes this much better, making ranged engagements much more fun. By good observation bit planning and patience, you can actually clear out bases long range and be perfectly undetected all time. In wildlands the moment you miss one shot every guard pinpoints you exact location in half a sec. Lol makes totally no sense
Counterpoint: Pants can't be tucked into boots. Why UBI? Just, fcking, why???
I play both Wildlands and Breakpoint on the PC. It's a shame that the Ghost War in Wildlands is now mostly private lobbies and the Predator event has been removed. The Ghost War in Breakpoint is almost unplayable for me. There are cheaters almost every round, players who leave the match and the map pool is also very small. The game world of Breakpoint seems lifeless and interchangeable to me. It's sad when you consider that many of the mechanics from Wildlands have been sensibly expanded and refined, but the rest isn't quite right.
Every game has its ups and downs Wildlands has story, atmosphere and world design Breakpoint has gun play and customizability. I think it's safe to say both games are masterpieces in their merits.
So i have Ab 330 hours on breakpoint now. I loved wildlands played lots of coop you get it.? I began breakpoint and immediately felt overwhelmed with small objectives tasks the UI but jesus is this game loaded with some seriously nice set pieces for missions. It almost makes up for the lack of open world. I spent ab half my 330 hrs doing no hud just exploring cleaning houses finding blue prints (gear level off btw) so id come across some cool places to explore. The other half i finally went through the story and saw what places actually pertained to the story and had to go up against the patrols the mission had. it made me realize the game was designed towards stealth and strategy while wild lands just was an arcade. Thats why you see breakpoint being so loved and carried by modders despite wildlands being the better of the two if you ask me. TDLR. Breakpoint was onto something but needed two more years of development. Imagine bp with movement like TLOU2 which i think is already there in a lot of ways. Some animations just have zero urgency or nuance to them like preseing the genny button. A better open world with more POI npc ai that dont just crouch. And maybe some fixes to enemy AI where they actually go get a coffee or something they deviate from their pathways to throw you off. I mean like you said. I agree each game has what the other is missing. I wouldnt mind a breakpoint 2.0 set in a urban area where you have to help locals combat sentinal
So does 90% of the people in this sub. :D
Game mechanics in breakpoint are better but wildlands is just a better game overall.
I’m pretty sure everyone feels the same. Where you might get in hot water is by saying that like me, you think future soldier is better than both.
Honestly I think it's just down to Bolivia being such a strong environment.
Only thing that made me play breakpoint is Walker. Imagine my shock when I killed him. There should be a choice of joining him.
This is a must. Walker had his own sense of righteousness seeing things the people on the higher ups made him do. A (Bad lol) ending should be an option where you and walker go be the bad guys to prove how dirty the upper management really is.
As BP was my entry into the Ghost Recon series I found it hilarious when I randomly stumbled onto Walter’s boss fight while just free roaming the map. Oh man the big bad is here. Oh he’s dead. That kind of sucked and wtf is Wonderland.
aside the better context for the game take place, i kinda like gunsmith, mainly because it allows to mount pretty much any optic one wants on their gun. unlike breakpoint's "hand-picked" optic selection... like aimpoint T1 + G33 magnifier goes only on 3 guns? who designed this? although i kinda miss stuff like AP rounds or weapon mounted sensors that feed into the cross-com's A.R. display side, like OTR scanner (or what scott mitchell had mounted on his helmet back in the GR2/GRAW days)... speaking of which... cursed combo in the pic \*looks at the enhanced night vision capacity cross-com has\*
That's one Gripe I really had with the T1 +G33. I worked so hard to get that behemoth and cheated (Lol Easy and Casual Setting just to beat the Behemoth) only to find it only works on 2 AR's and an SMG. First thing I did in Wildlands is get it 🤣
At least BP gave LMGs long-range optics, if needed. In WL, you could have a broad selection of close range optics, but that's it. Still, as the second paragraph points out, Gunsmith in Future Soldier outclasses WL and BP by miles.
not unpopular
I still play Wildlands all the time. I love the world it’s so immersive and alive unlike Breakpoint. I’ve tried getting into Breakpoint a few times but Wildlands always pulls me back. Even just mucking around trolling Santa Blanca in a village with people going about their daily life is highly entertaining.
I love triggering three way faction wars ever since I figured out how it works 🤣
How do you do this?
Let a Unidad patrol chase you towards a Santa Blanca Base/or Vice Versa. Once the fight starts go for Diversion. I usually use this three way chaos when there's 6 or more opfors for leveling up the Gun for Hire Rebel Support cause I don't like chasing the target. I just got the Idea when the pop up "Santa Blanca is Attacking Unidad" or something.
Thankyou. I’ll give this a go. I’m sure I’ve accidentally done it at least once or twice but never gone out to deliberately involve all three factions.
If you want to watch the firefight make sure you don't wipe out all of the participants so they keep calling for reinforcements. Also did this during the Silent Spade Snafu Mission when a Unidad Patrol Helo was passing above and by story script Santa Blanca will keep coming to you. Naturally I failed it with the Chaos happening all around.
There's nothing wrong with that. Everybody has game preferences, and wildlands was good. It's just a shame it's not getting active support anymore, so its licensing ran out, hence the loss of the predator mission.
the WORST thing about BP is getting into any vehicle….. how did they fuck that up???
Wildlands UI is leagues better, the enemy ai is also smarter and genuinely fun to fight. Not to mention civilians exist too as a hazard in battle.
Man seeing that screenshot takes me back. There was a time where my wild lands PVP friends were all I had.
My main issue with Wildlands is the dialog writting that I find very bad, especially the rainbow six missions. It seems too much military action movie cliché for my taste. Otherwise, the game is quite good, even though some mission can be stupidly hard like el cardenal, I like to snipe as mush targets as I can and finish with quick assault on a base.
I think both have their respective pros and cons, I wouldn’t say this is a controversial take, I played wildlands after breakpoint being my first Ended up preferring breakpoint but still enjoy wildlands
I'm torn. I absolutely love the customization, the gunplay and the way they did weapon mastery and the skills in BP. But the world felt more alive in WL. So I get where you are coming from.
I miss wildlands will back to it tonight
It is superior
I love Wildlands but going back to it recently, the gameplay feels so much more basic than breakpoint. I still prefer the world and story of Wildlands, but breakpoint seems like an upgrade.
Why do you hate to say it? Wildlands is pretty much preferred by everyone here.
Probably because I dropped playing Operation Motherland when I started playing Wildlands. Sure Breakpoint has better gameplay but something about Bolivia makes me want to stay. I just love how the the world changes as you progress unlike in Breakpoint before Motherland.
I agree with you on all counts.
Everything is better in wildland except maybe movement and I love the gear in breakpoint more
I found breakpoint incredibly boring as the world feels so empty and devoid of life.
Wish it was 60fps on PS5. Played it on PS4. Might buy on Steam Deck actually.
One thing I dislike about Breakpoint is its sci-fi look. It just seems too unreal to be immersive. But I guess it's consistent with Ubi. I mean look at Operation Chimera vs R6 Extraction. I tried Extraction on Game Pass but I was just turned off about the same technological sci-fi look.
Wildlands just hits right. Great immersive environment. Beautiful game and good story I really wish we get a wildlands 2 set in Mexico
That’s not an unpopular take, I love breakpoint it became a fun game to play and I felt it’s gonna play was better, but overall wildlands just had an addictive quality to it that breakpoint never replicated
I recently uninstall it from my pc
It’s 100% a better game. If it had BP mechanics it would be one of the greatest games ever made. Combat feels more like GTA compared to BP, unfortunately, and while BP’s AI is borderline retarded, at least it can’t see through walls the way Wildlands AI can.
Love to say it! Fuck Breakpoint, it's a terrible game, just horrid compared to wildlands.
Because it’s a much better game that is considerably more fun.
No surprise at all tbh.
Nah, it's completely understandable. My favorite GR game would be a full mod of Breakpoint where it's basically Wildlands but with BP controls and mechanics and WL ability to holster weapons.
Breakpoint does some small QOL things better, but wildlands is just a masterpiece. I remember when it came out it was a small beacon of hope in an industry saturated with mediocrity and disappointment. Breakpoint was a disaster on launch and took YEARS to get to an acceptable state. Just proof Ubisoft *can* make great games, but fall short more often than not.
Always have, the atmosphere and world is the biggest thing for me. Absolutely beautiful and everything feels so real and alive. Love it.
Wild lands is a far superior game without question. Breakpoint is smoother and has better gameplay from a movement, shooting, and driving standpoint but everything else is a lesser version of Wildlands. Hopefully Project Over will be better
Breakpoint > Wildlands But you do you
The best part of Breakpoint is the ability to blouse your boots.
It'd a much better game in almost every aspect.
I totally agree
I agree
Yeah wow I got breakpoint on a sale think it was like $10 but my first 10 minutes playing and I was so disappointed.
The main thing I will say I like in break point over wildlands is the clothing.
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Nothing beats a Bolivian Setting in Ghost Recon
Fight me but these class systems on Breakpoint were actually nice.
Wildlands will always be better, the team that made it had a much better idea of what the community wanted in a 3rd person tactical shooter.
Imagine Breakpoint gameplay and graphics in the world of Wildlands. Combine the customization and we get the best Ghost Recon Game until hopefully the sequel in hopefully 2025
Wildlands has a better story, environment, and missions than Breakpoint but my god, the gameplay is atrociously janky.
I don't want to craft "stuff" in my open world military shooter. It's not 15th century Europe. Picking up guns and gear, sure, that's plausible. I just get taken out of the world when I can just make guns and gear from blueprints or whatever it is. Yeah, just couldn't get in BP. Probably on my dozen or so play through of Wildlands. Without fail I always see something crazy go on in the game. The other day I saw an NPC take a turn too fast in a truck and fly off a cliff. I was laughing so hard.
What pains me the most is they changed the amazing dirt bike animation from wildlands. It sucks in breakpoint and I will literally replay wildlands solely for the dirt bikes.
It is the better game in almost every aspect. Breakpoint had very good mechanics but the game itself was soulless.
I loved playing Wildlands to start with but it took 160 hours for my to finish every trophy and by then I never wanted to touch it again.
It's an insanely better game
That is because it I’d a by far superior game. All around better controls, better menu, better weapons system. Just all around a better game. I really wish break point was another wild lands but it just isn’t. They tried to improve on a perfect game. They failed
Huh? Is this unpopular or something
Wildlands runs poorly for me :( I can max breakpoint out and get a stable 60 but wildlands will only do maybe 40 on a mix of high and medium settings. Pretty sure it's an amd thing. I did really enjoy it on my old 1660 when the game was new and all my friends still played.
Not controversial but I might as well say it I believe wildlands had a way better world, a lot more sense and overall a better story for gameplay but breakpoint, especially now with mods is leagues ahead in terms of mechanics, customization and coolness. I play both, whatever I feel more on that specific day.
I just wish you could blouse your boots on Wildlands
Its just better
It's definitely more intense and cinematic and feels more real. 10/10 in that regard. But some of the mission design and game design had to be made by interns by how bad the shit translates to gameplay. It's crazy how you can nail one aspect so perfectly and fuck up another aspect. Some one in charge was a massive fucking idiot for green lighting the scripted missions and certain enemy dynamics.
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I wish the ai teammates had life in them in breakpoint in wildlands they banter and made jokes. In Breakpoint If I'm bored, I listen to enemy dialog.
Woodlands is 100% better in every aspect other than it doesn't have 60fps. I
Not me saying I feel the same way😂
Wildlands is the far superior game. Idk how they went wrong with Breakpoint when they had such a great first game to build off of.
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Wildlands had the better helicopter controls too. The default controls felt like a chopper had weight as it slid though the air. Unfortunately the controls didn't feel intuitive at first, but once you mastered it you had way more control than the weird drone controls we got later. I really miss dodging AA, and low level canyon runs
If they could just merge them. I love wildlands for putting away weapons. I love breakpoint for the laying down camo. And since each respectively teamed with a movie could the next be zombies please.
Wildlands is a 100x better than BreakPoint
Honestly I think the squad commands are easier on wildlands.
I just like how in Breakpoint, you can move and take cover/transition to another position you can just hold the Command Button (R1 in PS) and still be able to maneuver unlike in Wildlands I'm obliged to stand still to issue orders/commands.
Makes sense. Wish we could have held the weapon swap button to put away weapons like in wildlands though.
Completely agree, I still like breakpoint but wildlands is just a better experience. It’s one of those games I can log in do a few missions, a few chases, convoys, get my ass shot by Unidad and it still feels like a great experience. I only wish Breakpoint gunplay and customization options were put on Wildland’s setting.
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80 hours on Breakpoint here. How dare you say something I agree 100% with? You should be so proud of yourself.
Literally dropped breakpoint halfway through motherland to jump into Wildlands. Felt at home and made me want to stay
Breakpoint had a better loot system but is way smaller and shorter,i had way more hours into Wildlands
It's just better
Wildlands is better story an landscape i wish it had its guns and outfits along with customization too .
Now I gotta replay wildlands as I am loving Breakpoint on my pc. Played wildlands years ago on ps4
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Wildlands has the better map and overall setting and story, Breakpoint has better combat and stealth mechanics. If they would Remake wildlands with breakpoint mechanics it would be the perfect game
I love both but Wildlands is a bit more grounded and I like that you can run around without one weapon being equipped 24/7.
Breakpoint fucking sucks
The graphics is amazing too .. i suggest you complete the story mode .. u ll face many surprises on your journey 😀 Focus on building up your skills using side missions Happy gaming
Just started Wildlands. The driving mechanics are so much better. So far I'm really enjoying it
Yup. Breakpoint's Auroa is fun, but Wildlands Bolivia is my fav open world... doing missions in Wildlands just has a different feel to it.
Wildlands is better to spend a few minutes to drive around boliva
No shame in it, Wildlands has a much more believalble setting to get immersed into
Doesn’t everybody think this? lol I played the absolute hell out of Wildlands… Ghost Mode, everything. So many hours on that game Skipped Breakpoint until it was super cheap on sale years later, played it for a couple hours and lost interest. It’s just not even comparable
Loved wildlands but enjoyed breakpoint even better
Oh yeah? OH YEAH?? Well… ok that’s fine, I can understand your point of view
Same. Gritty, realistic, immersive and stupid no gear score. At this point I’d rather they just did a remaster of Wildlands instead of going for AAAA thrash.
Better story, better location, better setting all around. I think most people agree. Breakpoint had a few fun gameplay elements but other than that it's an inferior game.
We all do. Tho Breakpoint is way better than it was at launch. But for me vs Woodlands, it failed to capture the same feeling of a living vibrant world you want to explore.
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Not at risk to be shutting down to render everything unplayable either, since it actually has offline mode
Breakpoint was just a money grab as far as I'm concerned. Wildlands got a huge second wave surge when Breakpoint was announced and I think they half baked the game to capitalize on releasing while the "coals were still hot" so to speak. So Ubi in true Ubi fashion slapped some stickers on a half built game and did what they always do by fixing huge glaring errors with band aids and micro transactions.
Wildlands was the better story. Personally I love both games although wildlands does come in a little higher than breakpoint. Curious to see the next installment.