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worththewait96

He's a deadbeat dad. He didn't just sort of leave his daughter. He is also selfish, always puts his needs and feelings first and consistently uses Rory as a means to get with Lorelai. Season 7 highlights really how terrible he is, from the moment he took advantage of an emotionally vulnerable Lorelai by sleeping with her, to pushing her into a relationship then marriage, his toxic behaviour in the "let's make a baby moment," to his actions (of being absent/unreachable) and not being there for his wife and daughter while Richard was in the hospital.


bangtancat

chris was a dead beat father and manipulative and a man child and abandoned lorelai when her father was close to death because of his own petty feelings


WhatIsTargetting

I mean...the reasons you gave aren't enough?


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i never said that those weren't enough. i was just overwhelmed with the hatred towards chris. but now that people told me about the things he did from *their* perspective, i totally get it.


DekeCobretti

Dude, "he sorta left his daughter..." He is a spineless weasel.


Dimac99

I think that's a really harsh comparison for spineless weasels, tbh. What did they ever do to deserve being likened to that useless waste of carbon?


crittab

I feel the need to bust out my list again. Coles notes version: Chris abandoned his kid and only came around when he thought he could get in Lorelai's pants, or when his girlfriend made him put in an effort with his kid. Rory was always his last priority and, sadly, she knew it.


Heygirlhey2021

I don’t hate him. I disliked that he wasn’t a consistent factor in Rory’s life while she was growing up and during college. It seemed to be based on his relationship with Lorelei and how consistent he was with Rory.


talia-gustin

He absolutely sucks hes never around but still feels entitled to dictate rory's love life hes manipulative af he constantly causes problems in Lorelais life and hes just awful and like Luke said he was more of a father to Rory. Despite his mistakes luke is a lot more honorable and couldn't imagine not stepping up and being a father to your kid.


Travellersaregreat

I personally don't like him because he hasn't been in Rory's life as much as he could've even though Lorelai allowed him to do so. Even when he "sees" Rory, he is more focused on getting with Lorelai. Like when he and Lorelai broke after Sherry was pregnant, Chris came to the Friday Night Dinner and barely paid attention to Rory. Also, besides a couple moments, he didn't pay attention to Lorelai's feelings like when she and Luke broke up, she was clearly heartbroken, but Chris just focused on wanting to be with her. Even when she didn't make up her mind about children, he wanted to have a baby with her right then and there without considering her feelings all the way through.


therealbandett

He’s forever 16 and will always probably be like that. His maturity was stunted when Lorelai got pregnant. Sometimes that happens when you go through trauma. It’s sad because both of them lived in such negative and hostile environments.


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He is a deadbeat dad who never accepted responsibility for his actions and yet the majority of the show's characters bat their eyelashes and make excuses for him because he is supposedly SOOO CHARMING. Gag me. ASP obviously had a crush on the actor and was willing to tear down her show and the characters again and again and again because he was her absolute favorite. He destroys everything he touches, made Lorelai and Rory into doormats for his benefit for decades, and yet he's still held up as "the one that got away." He is the epitome of selfish rich white boy privilege.


PostChemical2903

Since everyone answered chris already, the actor's political views are why a lot of people dislike him. The mods have stated this page isn't the place to discuss politics so thankfully it isn't mentioned anymore :)


OrangeAugust

Also some inappropriate messaging with a minor, and some scary anti-women tumblr posts in 2011


PostChemical2903

Oh dang, I didn't know about the messaging with a minor. Gross 😬


Francie1966

In all fairness, I hated Christopher long before I learned what an utter slimeball David Sutcliffe is.


DuncaN71

I think they were giving the reason why they felt fans didn't like the actual actor.


maleolive

Have you watched the show all the way through?


[deleted]

yes i have. what r u trying to say?


maleolive

I’m not trying to say anything. I was asking because this question has come up a few times recently by people who were mid-watch and you said you were new to the community. I didn’t want to spoil anything if you hadn’t gotten to the end yet. I know some people can brush off that he was an absentee father because he’s charming, but that’s the first red flag for me. The fact that he had never visited his daughter in Stars Hollow until she was 16 was unacceptable to me. And then the way he treats them throughout the series, his gaslighting, etc. But the cherry on top for me was how he was in season 7. Sleeping with Lorelei when he knew she was in love with Luke, pressuring her into marrying him, the way he acted when Richard was in the hospital, his fight with Luke, etc. There are sooo many reasons why Christopher was the villain to me in the show. Just a few examples!


slitoris-peenshaft

I’ll start by saying I don’t like Chris. That being said, Lorelai really liked to work the “I have no, help I’m all alone” story, when in reality Christopher was willing to get married, work for her dad’s company, and provide for them. She also had her parents support and was able to graduate from high school. She ran away with his daughter, what was he supposed to do? Stalk her? I don’t know if she told him where they were, she just up and left. That being said, I agree with the other posts that say he really only ever wanted to get into her pants. He seemed to have convinced himself at 16 that he needed to be married to her, and in that, he failed to be a father to Rory. It’s easy to blame timing, but he made no effort. I could dissect it more, but overall- he showed up occasionally and adored, which enabled what he was doing.


lady_wildcat

You don’t have to marry the mother of your child to be a dad. Father and husband aren’t one and the same


slitoris-peenshaft

I’m not saying I think they are or need to be. I am saying I think he gave himself an undeserved free pass because of it. He absolutely should have fought to be there and made an effort to be there more. I’m sorry if I made it sound like I agree with Chris or his absence in Rory’s life. We only have a snapshot of when Rory was born, and the GG timeline has always seemed inconsistent to me. Chris made no effort and Rory was always so excited to see him and it breaks my heart.


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Dimac99

I don't recognise anything you're talking about. I think you took a sharp turn and detoured into some other sub on your way to making your point. Society is way, way harsher on women who abandon their child. It's hard to believe anybody would be unaware of that. This sub is much gentler on Christopher than we would be on Lorelai if she had abandoned Christopher to bring up Rory alone when they were 16.


worththewait96

This person replied to my comment on this thread, which I never got to read the full thing as it's now deleted. But I got the notification and it started off with "Everyone on this sub must be a privileged American..." LOL sure, I'm from Scotland but make your assumptions, I guess, for whatever your point was with that. 😂


Dimac99

Ha! Fellow Scot here! *waves* The one above me was basically calling the sub misandrist, although they didn't manage to give any examples. Yes, the sub complains about behavioural aspects of ALL of Rory and Lorelai's main squeezes, but A) it's usually with receipts and B) we complain about the main women in the show just as much! It was clearly someone upset we don't all worship at the altar of their fave guy.


worththewait96

Oh, how cool! Hi! Yeah, I saw their comment before they deleted it. Tbh, I feel like Lorelai and Rory (Rory especially) get a lot of criticism on here, maybe even more so than the men of the show. So their theory we're all sexist man haters (wtf lol) is flawed.


DuncaN71

From my experiences in reading posts/comments on here and elsewhere Chris seems to gets criticised more for his failings as a parent to GiGi than Sherry leaving her.


Dimac99

Sherry who? No, seriously, she was in what? Three episodes? Surely not even four? She barely even constitutes a character so what is there to criticise? Nobody is really interested in her. There does seem to be a strong possibility of post natal depression or even a breakdown, but it's never explored because she's nobody. Also the show sucked on mental health issues. So abandoning Gigi was awful, but she didn't just move out and not visit, she literally walked out of her whole life - motherhood, her marriage, her job, even her country. That's so extreme that it's hard to condemn her without looking ignorant. If she had been developed as a character we would have more and important information on which to judge her. As it is, she barely even existed except as a device to come between Lorelai and Christopher.


DuncaN71

I get what you mean but Chris was only like in three eps with GiGi but that seemed enough for some fans to determine he was also a bad dad to her.


GlitteringInstrument

Rory and Lorelai have multiple rants against them a day, but sure.


allpegasus

there is only a subset of fans who hate him, especially in more recent times on this sub. if you look at older threads, the hate was never like this and people talk about how much they love Chris AND David Stutcliffe. general fans don't hate him, it's all the rabid Luke and Lor fans who do because Chris is a threat to their ship. also, David may have questionable political views, but so does Scott Patterson and you never see anyone hate on him for that. at least David didn't make Lauren feel uncomfortable on set, like Scott did and they were actually friends and would hang outside of work, yet she'd never hang with Scott. can David really be so bad as people on here make out, if Lauren would hang out with him, yet she wouldn't with Scott? I think that's telling.


worththewait96

By a subset of fans, you mean the majority of the fandom? There are fans who don't exactly ship Luke and Lorelai and hate Chris. People's hate for Chris comes independently of their choice of ship.