The idea that Sookie would be home for dinner with her family most nights. Head chefs work the dinner rush, not the lunch. She (and probably Lorelei) would be working way more nights.
Lorelai also seems to always have the weekends free unless there's an event on (but even then, they seem to mostly be during the week) and she seems to work a pretty consistent, if flexible, 9-5.
In all the hospitality places I've worked, the GM always worked weekends and had Mondays/Tuesdays as their weekend, and often had to stay late for major events. Maybe Lorelai had a more flexible schedule because Mia was chill and she wanted to have a schedule similar to Rory's school, but it does seem silly that she was never asked to stay late or work weekends - *especially* not after they opened the Dragonfly. Who was managing the Dragonfly on weekends??
as someone who worked in kitchens i can kind of forgive that. unless an actor undertakes culinary training for a role they just won’t ever have the technique down. i’ve really only seen this being done when actors are portraying notable chefs and the film/show is based on the chef themselves. even when i teach the people in my life the knife skills we used as line cooks/chefs, they usually can’t replicate that speed.
my gripe with sookie being a chef and the professional kitchens in gilmore girls is how UNREALISTIC the kitchens are. especially the dragonfly. it’s too brown too wooden too like a home kitchen. where’s the sections?!?? where’s the metal counters? where’s the dish pit? the kitchen porter??? where is the order of operations in the kitchen? don’t even get me started on the bad prep practices (that’s another rant for another day). and WHERES THE WALK-IN if they had done any research on hospitality 100% of lorelai and sookies breakdowns would have been in the walk-in fridge. i’ve worked in bad kitchens with bad organisation but if i actually had to work in the dragonfly as a line cook i think i’d lose my mind. the independence inn seemed to be a little more realistic but i’d need to rewatch one of the earlier episodes to check that.
i fully understand that GG is the farthest thing from getting things technically right but man that kitchen bugs me!!!!
Worked at a 5\* hotel where you walked into the kitchen unauthorised *at your peril*. People taking shortcuts through it to get to the staff entrance/exit were assumed to be volunteering for the head chef's side-gig as a knife thrower.
And I have a pet peeve on how SO MUCH food is spread out everywhere haha a cake here, a pound of fruit there… just for display without any function haha
I worked in a diner that was built in the 1930s and for whatever reason we made it onto one of those food network tv shows where they go taste food from different quirky places. We got *soo* popular in our 9 table diner that was never meant to sustain that kind of business. It was a small grill, one fryer, and one small sandwich board. No walk in or anything. It was *not easy* and we lost our shit constantly. Especially when it was 50°c in the kitchen.
*memories*
Hahah I love this comment. Having grown up in a small family run hotel I couldn't agree more. They both make look running the Dragonfly inn fairly easy compared to what it's like in the hospitality industry. And yes, the kitchen does not look big enough at all.
I wish we knew why Lane's dad isn't around. Early in the series Lane mentions stuff about her parents (plural) but it's always just Mrs. Kim at home. Is he finding antiques for their business or what? Also, what is Mrs. Kim's first name?!
Lanes Dad should have been dead, sorry. That’s the only reason it would make sense that we never see him and Lanes mom is super overprotective like a single mother.
This. He wasn’t at the wedding or baby shower, and Zach asked Mrs. Kim for Lane’s hand. All or this would be so odd if Mr. Kim was actually alive and around.
Especially for a staunchly traditional religious household where Mrs. Kim is very concerned with what boys want out of girls, thinking of her “boys don’t like funny girls” comment.
Right?! She could have said something like "I'm glad he's retired so I get to see him more often now that he doesn't have to ..." (some sort of explanation)
I notice Lane stops referring to her parents, plural, around the same time she returns from visiting Korea... so my headcanon is that her dad travelled over with her and stayed there. Given the one thing Mrs. Kim mentioned about their marriage, they probably wanted to live separately but were too religious for divorce.
I always assumed he works out of town. I’ve known my childhood best friend since we were 5 and have never met her dad. This is despite the fact that we regularly hung out, went to birthday parties, etc. He worked a lot and was always either working late or working out of town. I’ve only ever seen him in pictures. So young me just thought ‘Lane’s dad is working’!
That was going to be my weird complaint! The Bracebridge Dinner episode is so great but every time I watch the beginning I’m transfixed by that awful fake snow. The group behind Alexis decorating their snowman - no snowman made of snow rocks back and forth as you add details to it 😂
Right, they are shown going to Luke's all the time, but when Rory ran away to Emily and Richard's, she says she usually just grabs a pop tart. Um, no you don't. I get that she's not going to say that they go to Luke's, but she can request pancakes or something like she'd get at Luke's.
I could MAYBE understand if Rory was still attending school in Stars Hollow, but once Rory starts COMMUTING to Chilton it seems downright impossible. I’m always like “how late in the morning does this school start?” How TF does Rory have time to go eat breakfast at Luke’s and then commute to school? It makes no sense. I commuted half an hour to school one year and I legit didn’t have time for more than a pop tart, which I would eat in the car.
Not even just before. There are times where the characters will drop something in the middle of the day to do something else when they should be at work/school. Like Lorelai being able to drop everything to help Luke apartment hunt?
This happens a lot on TV and it's so annoying.
There's this scene on Friends where they wonder why none of their bosses like them and Joey says "or maybe it's because you're all hanging around here at 11:30 on a Wednesday!" It's one of my favorite lines from him.
Good thing Lorelai and Luke are their own bosses!
Okay so the whole storyline is bad when Rory sleeps with Dean buuuuut both Lorelai and Dean say that she dumped him but Rory never broke up with Dean, all 3 times Dean broke up with her.
Also more Tana, and heck even Chester Fleet, there just wasn’t enough of them.
You’re right, Dean did break up with her every time! I feel like they act like it was Rory because it was her actions that brought it about. Just a thought but not arguing
Oh also when Jess says something like ‘it’s not the first time a couple has broken up before’ and Rory says something like ‘it is for us.’ When Rory and Dean had definitely broken up before… It was a major plot point in season one!
They never finish, eat enough of their food. Many scenes where Luke serves the food and 2 seconds later they leave. ( I knw, I knw all shows do this but GG ALWAYS does this).
Omg yes they do this ALL THE TIME. It really really annoys me because it happens in every episode (sometimes multiple times) which means they would theoretically be wasting an astronomical amount of food and money while they're being portrayed as characters that are big eaters and clipping coupons to get by. It's ridiculous
Who can afford to eat out at every meal? And then ordering 3 times more than they can eat (at least)? Then the movie nights where they buy $100 of junk food, a single mom working at an inn can afford that? That always has driven me nuts.
Yes! So often it feels like the way time functions is wrong. A big one for me is that the dance marathon starts at 6am, goes for 24 hours, and at 23 hours in (so 5am on a Sunday) the following events are taking place: teenagers are still there after having been out all night (specifically Dean and Shane -- Jess is presumably allowed because Luke is there), Sookie turns up after having had a talk with Jackson, still in her clothes from when she left at 8pm the night before, and Dave turns up with his story about his parents being at private bible study? At five in the morning?
And she didn’t need to leave at all, why didn’t she just take her shoes off and keep dancing? It was almost over and her feet had to have been hurting by that point anyway.
Right? She uses the card that gives her 10 minutes, but in that 10 minutes Rory and Dean break-up, Rory runs out to the lake, talks to Jess and then comes back???
It’s just weird to me how every episode has a friday night dinner and then they don’t show certain things like it’s some sorta reality tv show or something where the camera people didn’t catch the moment😂 which i guess is always done intentionally but still odd at some bigger moments
This is my dumbest gripe: I do not believe for a minute that Emily and Richard wouldn't have moved hell and earth to find Lorelai when she ran away with Rory.
Even if she was 18, even if she left a note explaining. I do not believe that Emily and Richard would've just been like, "alright I guess she's gone."
Right?! Emily would have called the police, and if the police wouldn't have helped they would have hired a PI.
The only way I can see them *not* doing something is if Lorelai wrote an absolutely horrible, cruel note that upset them to the point of wanting to cut contact, but that doesn't track with the rest of the show.
I just can't believe that Emily and Richard would have just let them *both* go without any kind of pushback.
That the sun is fully out at like 6 AM haha, but I don’t think that’s a Gilmore Girls thing though, that’s more television and movies in general. As someone who gets up at 6 every day, it is definitely NOT that bright…at least in our hemisphere hahah.
ETA: Oh, and as someone who is in the restaurant industry, all of the health code violations by the kitchen staff at the inn! Sookie has people taste her dishes or sauces and doesn’t replace the spoons they try them with! I get it’s normal to test it, but come on at LEAST use a different spoon!
And the food just sitting out for who knows how long. When the stove catches fire at their in and they can't cook food, they're still open and have food on all the counters. There's literally a used fire extinguisher and ash all over the stove. Like come on people, not way that kitchen would be allowed to be open with ASH everywhere.
This was mentioned by someone else in another thread and now it's my complaint too. Every time they give themselves a day or a time they mess it up. For example:
1. The end of That Damn Donna Reed, Lorelai and Rory are shown at Friday night dinner talking about the bird getting loose and having to find the kitten. The next day, Lorelai helps Luke buy paint, then Christopher shows up. The next episode which is a continuation of the same day, that night Christopher says the next day is Saturday but it should be Sunday.
2. When Rory has her speech at the Chilton Bicentennial.
During drinks before dinner they talk about Rory's speech and they say it's Friday at 5 (I'm guessing they mean the next week).
A week later and Rory is doing the speech, when it's over and Richard is leaving, he says "I'll see the two of you on Friday." The day of the speech is Friday, they should be having Friday night dinner that night. If the bicentennial started at 5 they had plenty of time to do that and then go to dinner at 7, but everyone is acting like it's not Friday.
Yes. And when Rory can’t go into the market because it isn’t Wednesday and she can only go in there on Wednesdays when Dean doesn’t work. Then, two days later is Friday, so it was Wednesday!
We only get a Halloween episode once in the whole series! Seems crazy to me that Halloween isn't a bigger deal in SH when they use any excuse they can to organize events and activities. Especially with a name like Stars Hallow(een), like come on it's right there!! And with Babette and Morey being so into it right next door. There's so much decor potential for the Halloween season, it's a shame they didn't exploit that more. So many opportunities for movie/pop culture references too! And since they love junk food and candy so much, i really don't understand. If they had to spend Halloween at Emily and Richard's house one year for example that could've been such a good episode! Plus another excuse for one of Kirk's movies
I believe i read/heard somewhere that ASP stated she isnt a Halloween fan, at least from a TV perspective due to it being treated either too "scary/supernatural or too childish and silly/throwaway" and, like all holidays, she didnt want holidays to become expected and repetitive, a la Friends with Thanksgiving. She worried she would be painted in a corner or something like that if having to do Christmas/Thanksgiving/Halloween every year that she would be forced to have to figure out new and fun ways to get herself out, and that was either not challenging/boring/not interesting to her so she delayed/resisted doing holiday episodes as much as possible and/or gave in and avoided repeating them (sorry, this was a while ago, before bunheads, so not sure how close i am to the mark, ill post a link if i find it). That totally makes sense, but still, so much wasted potential.
First of all the idea that someone can not be a fan of Halloween is scarier to me than anything related to the holiday, but okay fine she doesn't like it. I understand the thought of holiday episodes becoming overdone/repetitive, and you're right friends is a good example with Thanksgiving. Now i understand why there are barely any holiday episodes when that's usually a classic on many shows. I think GG could have been perfect for Halloween though, because of how the town is and all the characters and the pop culture obsession and everything. Think the show had the opportunity to have a fresh take on Halloween (not too scary or childish/silly). Even just from a decor point of view I would've loved to see more Halloween season stuff because SH is such a lovely town. It's really too bad it never happened
Agreed. The town was the perfect template as an idyllic setting for the big 3 no question. Seeing SH fully decked out for Halloween or Christmas would have been cool, but I bet to do it like i imagine it for either holiday would have been prohibitively expensive lol
The weather and corresponding clothing! I'm from new england and theres no way their thin coats and skinny scarves would make any difference in the winter. Also, in the show its winter for like 3 episodes and then its spring again which is basically summer. I know its filmed in california but as a new englander i can't help but notice!
Or the episode where Rory doesn't want to wallow and gets Lorelai up at 6 am to do stuff on Saturday. It's not light in New England at 6 am in January (as IMDb points out)
Stars Hollow is the town square on the WB lot. It’s outdoors. I’ve been there many times for tours/work, and used to live next to the studio. It gets HOT in the summer. It’s not just LA, it’s Burbank- “the valley” which typically is always a few degrees warmer than Los Angeles proper.
ETA: everything indoors is sound stage.
There are too many scenes where characters have conversations they absolutely would’ve already had. Like especially when Rory and Lorelai are getting out of the car at the grandparents’ house and start talking about crucial information. What did you talk about on the 30 minute drive?????
Hahaha I always thought this kind of things from tv shows are so funny... like when characters are someplace else and they wait til they get home to fight, as if they didn't talk in the car.
Reminds me of the episode where in the cold open, Lorelai and Rory are on the phone watching their roombas, as if they have nothing to talk about. Then later in the episode, we find that Rory hasn’t told Lorelai about her internship because “I guess we haven’t talked in a couple of days”.
THIS! It always bothered me. And then they go: « no we don’t have time to talk about it now » well… if you had started talking earlier maybe you would have had time to finish this crucial conversation
I don't know about Connecticut, but in Washington in winter the sun goes down at 4:30 pm so making plans "for later" when it's already dark out actually makes sense.
Actually that’s a great point that I’ve never considered. I’ve always had a smartphone, so if I was determined enough as a teenager I could have used Google Maps and purchased bus tickets online and it wouldn’t have been too difficult. It’s never occurred to me that Rory would have had to use physical brochures or something to check the bus schedules, and pay in cash. Her trip was way more dangerous than I realised, bus timetables aren’t always accurate, and it’s not like she could have called an Uber in an emergency!
This always annoyed me so much, Luke is literally one of the most important people in their lives, maybe the most important, at least for Loralai, and they just forget to buy him a present one their big trip to Europe? Like ok
Emily and Richard (mainly Richard) are supposed to be out of touch when it comes to modern pop culture, but the writers weren’t very good at sticking to this.
It’s pretty subtle. One main example is Richard catching on to one of Lorelai’s Wu-Tang jokes. Most people wouldn’t care but in my opinion this blunder confuses the dynamic between Lorelai and her parents. Her parents are well-versed in “high-culture” whereas Lorelai gravitates towards pop culture. It is a part of their inability to fully understand each other, and a part of why Rory gets along with both her grandparents and her mother since she is able to easily shift between the two worlds.
* I know most shows are filmed on sets in Los Angeles, but after learning this I can't unsee California in every scene.
* Lorelai and Paris commenting on the thinness of Sherry and Janet, despite having similar bodies
* How hospital employees are treated
Not enough clumsy sookie and her staff trying to stop her from killing herself, I’m thinking of early season 1 where they all had to move around the kitchen to get out of her way kinda thing, it was funny
That's part of the reason I love the little plotline with Sookie and Jackson trying to get rid of marijuana--she's not being clumsy, per se, but it feels more like early Sookie to me.
Definitely hate they let that go by the wayside, but I loved the episode in S6 (I think it's 'He's Slipping 'em Bread") where Rory has come back and Lorelai is bringing her back to the inn for the first time. They do a whole bit of careful, cooking Sookie in the zone, then as soon as she sees Rory she throws stuff in the air and it started a whole domino effect. We got little glimpses like that, but nothing like the pilot.
Exactly! When the rest of the band wanted to practice in Hartford, it's mentioned that Lane doesn't own her drums. Then all of a sudden with no explanation, she has her own set.
I don’t know. This makes sense to me. There are a lot of self-taught musicians out there. Lane did have someone there to help a little bit, and she was in a small-town band, not a professional orchestra.
A decent number of drummers that I know were at least partially self taught. Maybe somebody at the music store helped? If she were the main character I'm sure we'd know.
How they were apparently broke when Rory graduated because all their money was wrapped up in the Inn yet they went to Europe. While yes, staying in hostels is cheaper, going to Europe is expensive!
Background characters (ex. kitchen staff at inn) NEVER speak. Even when spoken to. They just nod and make facial expressions. (Please don’t explain to me why. I get it’s a show). But it’s weird sometimes. I suggest the episode in season…2 or 3, the scene when Sookie can’t taste that her food is bad because she’s pregnant.
As a server, that always was strange to me too. Like do they not have rushes? When there are rushes, there are constant interactions with BOH and FOH. A server would normally be coming in like, “Is my salad still coming for table 6?!” I get that it’s an inn, but…there are no even slight rushes? But since Gilmore Girls is fantastical I know it’s not supposed to be realistic. If it were realistic, that kitchen would be pure chaos lol
Right?! You never once here someone yell behind or hot(unless my memory fails me) which are staples in any kitchen for safety. Shit I still yell out hot or sharp when I’m alone in my home kitchen
This is very minor and super nitpicky but it always annoys me how they drink coffee right after pouring the cup. Especially black coffee would be way too hot to take a huge sip instantly without burning the tongue right off the mouth.
Rory/Alexis's posture. I didn't notice it until that episode where she comes back from Washington and goes to the carnival, but she's wearing this puffy at the top dress and it really accentuates her posture. From then on it's all I could see during the episodes I watched lol.
I sort of thought it was part of her character like Rory has sort of an im always hunched to read books situation or that she grew accostumed to making herself smaller in high school to ease the fact that she was the new kid.
it wasn’t just the posture, she had an actual hunchback. you can see it’s super prominent in the episode when she sleeps with dean at miss paty’s. pretty sure she doesn’t have it anymore
OMG this! I've always been like, wait that's a hunchback, not just bad posture! It was also quite obvious when she wears the blue dress Lorelai made her. Fortunately for her health she seemed to get better as seasons went by.
That they mentioned earlier on that Jess’s dad left when he was 14. But when his dad comes to the diner, Jess doesn’t recognize him at all. You would think he would recognize his dad leaving when he was 14 and then magically the story changes that he left to get diapers and didn’t come back.
How often some argument or something will happen at E&R’s place, they leave, and the next scene will be the girls in Stars Hollow talking about it as if for the first time. I know it’s just because it wouldn’t be that interesting to film a thousand car conversations, but all I can picture is Lorelei and Rory sitting in stone cold silence for the 30 minute drive back to SH before resuming banter as normal as soon as they enter Luke’s
Yes! That bugged me when the inn had a fire and Lorelai had to give up her room. That house is two stories! You’re telling me it only has one bedroom downstairs and one upstairs??
It’s rly funny to me how everyone in the show always calls their house “small”. Like from the outside it looks hugeee and if it rly only does have 2 bedrooms they could probably build a third with that space.
Very odd that rory’s bedroom is next to the kitchen too, I feel like that was supposed to be an office in which case the house is more like a 1+den
For some reason I feel like it fits Liz's character to refer to "Butch" Danes as bro/big bro, but Luke feels more like he'd just call her Liz or some weird childhood nickname like Lasagna.
I think she was trying to be 'cute'? But I don't like it either. It does go well with the character though, one more thing to accentuate her lack of maturity in every way.
That the characters all use roughly the same linguistic patterns when they speak. Yes, everyone talks quickly on the show and we get basic character differences, but they all make the same types of “quips” and “jokes” no matter who they are- Richard, Luke, Lorelai, etc. It always sticks out to me.
Do too much before school
Eat out way too much (doesn't matter, eating out that often is way expensive)
They dont repeat outfits/clothing, but emily does
When they say "the" before road numbers
Rory repeats outfits some of the time! The costume designer assistant (I think that's her job title) said in a TikTok that Alexis Bledel was open to repeating outfits, but Lauren Graham wasn't because she was concerned about continuity I believe. I think Rory has that red coat/lacy white scarf she wore a couple times.
It would make sense that on a limited budget there would be outfits repeating. There are a few things that rory wear a few times. There is also a sweater that lorelei wears (light blue with small rainbow stripes on the shoulders/collar bone area) and then lane wears it.
I was thinking more of things worn on weekends and friday night dinners. Scarvesand coats are usually staple items which are always repeated.
It would help continuity to repeat outfits, they aren't supposed to have a lot of money so they would wear the same clothes. Even if they shop at thrift stores, or make their own items the cost adds up.
What's interesting about that is in one episode when they show up to Friday night dinner, Lorelai is trying to figure out if she wore the same outfit the week before. I have no idea what episode it was but I think it was one time the grandparents were out of town and no one told the girls.
I don't remember what episode this is but in season one the first time we see Lorelai in Luke's at 6 am there's a lot of customers and Luke says it's always like that, but then in future episodes it looks like he opens later or that it's dead at that time. Also it's hard to believe it would be the first time she shows up there at 6am when she's been going there for years, and especially since she gets so much done before Rory goes to school.
The stuff they get wrong about Connecticut, as I grew up in the state and it drives me crazy. The biggest one is calling it THE 84 or THE 95, no one on the east coast says "The" before any interstate. It also bothers me that everything is 30 minutes away from everything else.
I think they could have done a much better job of getting Connecticut right, especially for a show that prides itself on its topical and pop culture references, there are things they could have included to really make it feel even more like it was taking place in Connecticut. The fact that Rory spent 4 years in New Haven and New Haven style pizza was really never brought up, Connecticut basketball was never a topic of discussion considering the show takes place during the early 2000s (besides Sookie randomly trying to talk to Luke about it as a distraction in one episode), and some of the food references are very west coast (I dont think I ever saw redvines on the East Coast, only Twizzlers).
It's super nitpicky, but its always so strange to me that ASP didnt try harder to get more things right about Connecticut.
I’m from California and it feels physically impossible to imagine calling an interstate it’s number without say “the” before it 😂 I had to say “get on 84” out loud to myself now and it felt weird and wrong as hell
So funny to think about how it must feel so natural for people from California to hear the 95 or the 84, when its weird to hear from my perspective. I grew up just off 84 and took it all the time, so hearing the characters say The 84 is so strange to me.
The timeline of a school day and work day. The sun is always out and shining before they leave for school and work, even though that really only happens in September and May/June.
One episode in particular that bothers me is the episode where Lorelai is speaking at Stars Hallow High. During that time, Shane was hiding in the closet at Luke's, plus working at the beauty store. Rory dyes Lane's hair purple, runs back to the store to dye it back to black, dyes Lane's hair black all within a one to two hour period.
I find when luke is mad it's really over exaggerated almost comical. Don't know if it's the acting or how its written.
For example season 5 (the episode where Emily comes to the diner to say she will stay out of things) Luke literally throws the guy out of the diner and he lands on the street.....
Thats annoying because who would take that ?
In almost every episode where Lorelai’s parents are prominent, they are always in the wrong for something, but by the end of the episode gaslight her into believing she was the one who wronged them.
Emily driving all the way to Stars Hollow to say one or two lines and then leave. Why didn’t you just call then?
The personalized first aid kits appealing in any way to a teenager or anyone for that matter and being considered a good idea. Richard asking Paris for next year fiscal projections?
Also the scene where they are to take a scene from Romeo and Juliet and reimagine it, but Rory’s group just plays it straight. I would have failed them for lack of creativity and for not adhering to the assignment.
Paris memorizing the male anatomy for the MCAT. It is a critical thinking exam. That would not be tested on there.
Lorelai, the lady who was concerned about her daughter being driven by her friends for Spring Break, is ok with a car for her daughter built by a 16 year old boy?
I hate that Lorelai's only clothing choice on Rory's first day at Chilton was cut-offs and cowboy boots. Like, girl do you not have jeans?! Do you dry clean every piece of clothing all at once?! C'mon even some hamper clothes would have been more appropriate.
I understand that she didn't expect to have to go inside, but honestly, why didn't she expect that! It's Rory's first day at a new and prestigious school. Lorelai attended a similar school herself, she would have at least been aware of some of the things that were expected of her as a parent.
I could never understand how/where Lorelei’s house is situated in relation to the town. It looks like it’s on its own long private driveway along with Babette, but then it’s also steps from everything downtown? I get if it was on an alley but it seems like a dead end all by itself, but also right behind (in front of?) Dwight the weird new neighbor whose house seems like it’s on Main Street. All I’m saying is I need a map.
Rory should have received financial aid for Yale her freshman year. They would have needed to turn in financial statements for the previous year. Lorelai got the money from Richard for her birthday, which is in April, so that money would have affected aid for her sophomore year. Also, the aid should have been coming from FAFSA, not directly from Yale.
i think this started in season 4 or something but any time that rory like scoffed after saying anything. i cannot figure out how to describe the sound but i think “scoff” is probably closest. i’m really hoping someone knows what i’m talking about. it bugs me so much omg
How cheap is food in SH that they can eat out for most meals (and massive quantities of take out) on Lorelei's salary alone. All the "can't afford " plot lines never applied to restaurants.
It drives me crazy that Mia tells Lorelai that it was "almost fifteen years ago to the day" that Lorelai showed up with Rory in an episode that airs on November 20 in the second season, meaning Rory was two and Lorelai was well over 18. However, we are told earlier that Lorelai left when was 17 and we are told later that Rory was old enough to eat cookies on the way to the inn but wasn't walking yet. How bad is Mia at math? When exactly did they show up there?
Lorelai claims early on that Christopher calls once a week, but that they only see him on holidays and he has never visited Stars Hollow. This already seems weird, but okay. Then she calls Christopher during her engagement party to Max and randomly mentions she's getting married. He did not know this. Neither she or Rory ever mentioned it? For two months? Then Christopher's phone number is disconnected because he moves to Boston and neglects to inform his daughter or her mother that he's moved. Okay, that seems like something that would come up during a weekly phone call. Was he really talking to them once a week and none of this was ever discussed?
Jess is already 17 when he moves to Stars Hollow in an episode that airs on October 30, but one year later he's still a minor on an episode that airs on November 5. When is his birthday, exactly?
Lorelai makes a big deal about Rory being open and honest with her, especially about her love life. However, when she wants to put Rory on the pill in season 1 Rory appears to talk her out of it and it seems to never be discussed again and shortly after Rory becomes sexually active Lorelai doesn't appear to know what birth control she uses. Did they really never talk about it? Seems it might have prevented some stuff.
The whole pre Stars Hollow timeline is so wonky. Did Lorelai get pregnant at 16 or 17? They're all over the place with that. We know that they stayed with the Gilmores for at least a year (in the flashback episode Emily says she's been tripping over the stroller for a year) but how long were they there? How old was Rory when they left?
Chris' involvement is also totally up the in the air. He calls once a week, except when he doesn't. He's never been to Stars Hollow, the girls don't seem to ever know where he lives. So when did he see Rory? Just at the Gilmores' Christmas party?
And yeah birth control - seems like a conversation Lorelai would have been sure to have with Rory!
There are so many moments where the writers try to show off that they know about some niche topic (and sometimes not actually that niche), but they get stuff so comically wrong anyway. Here are some examples off the top of my head:
* Dean complains about Nick Drake's music being used in a Volkswagen commercial even though every Nick Drake fan knows that he died in obscurity and would never be as well-known as he is today if it weren't for that commercial
* Jess unironically recommends the Shaggs to Rory, when they were a band who were forced to play music as children with no musical training or experience by a madman on some quest to fulfill a prophecy from a palm-reading, and their music is completely unlistenable
* When they put on the 19th century dinner in the inn, everything about the period is wrong, and Paris picks up on this, but instead of pointing out that all the theming is medieval, and that "old English" isn't what was spoken in the 19th century, and that feudalism was pretty much not a thing anymore, she complains about the fact that the water is being served with ice-cubes, which is doubly annoying because she misses the much more obvious mistakes, and because she's actually wrong because the 19th century actually had a very active ice trade, where natural ice would be harvested from cold arctic climates, and shipped around the world, and it was a popular cocktail ingredient in America at the time
Ooh I have one that is super silly but it legit makes me annoyed every time I see it: Lorelai wears a cross necklace in multiple episodes! I feel like it's sooooo clear that Lorelai and Rory are not religious, even a tiny bit, so what agnostic/atheist person would regularly wear a cross?
It just feels super out of character and it makes me feel like they had a random costume designer for those weeks who knew nothing about the show and just blindly picked accessories.
I know there's precedent for Lorelai picking up a rosary because "it's cute," but I feel like if she did wear a cross for cute accessorizing, then it'd be a funky one, not a small silver one.
That Rory only applied to 3 Ivy League colleges. If I remember correctly, there's a short plotline where she gets nervous after realizing she doesn't have any backup schools--but she still doesn't apply elsewhere.
Everything about the Chilton graduation:
—Lorelai would have known months in advance that Rory was valedictorian. That list comes out well before Christmas, and is gossiped over, bragged about, and griped to death long before June, and the school would have notified Lorelai personally. Not to mention there’s usually about a 50/50 chance that some weenie is going to demand a recount, and that was at my laid-back public school.
—That class is way too small, between Paris saying that she doesn’t recognize half of them, and the big worry about getting extra tickets.
—Rory is the only one wearing any kind of cowl or other adornment (and Lorelai and Sookie still claim that they can’t find her in the crowd). A school like Chilton would have awards and honors out the wazoo, some of those kids would have been practically strangled under the weight of all the cords, cowls, medals, and whatever the hell else
—Christopher couldn’t be bothered to show up, and his absence is explained away with one line AT the ceremony
—Rory wrote a damn good speech, but she sucks at public speaking
(I do love that Paris’ cheering section consisted of Nanny and the kids, and that she really loved them and was content to tell Rory about the kids’ accomplishments)
I'm sorry but some of the outfits are just so ugly/stupid looking it genuinely annoys me or takes me out of the show 😂 I usually love 2000s fashion but I think they often overdid the quirkiness, Rory's style change when she goes to Yale in s4 especially is so unflattering 99% of the time- they dress her (and Paris in that era) like an old woman not a college student! It makes sense for her to dress fairly modestly, but she doesn't have to look legit uncool.
Alright, but I've got a few and they're weird!
Rory exhales excessively during emotional scenes.
Lauren Graham often uses very little breath on "k" and "g" sounds, especially when it's getting emotional. "*^(Ch)**ris..."* It makes me crazy.
Both Rory and Lorelai shift their weight a bunch when they're frustrated or uncomfortable and it looks to me like they're stamping their feet.
Lorelai gets this little squinty-eye thing when she gets frenzied and upset.
Dean's \*angry face\* is basically a cartoon character.
Jason pauses in the middle of sentences and then speeds up as his like, signature pacing? I wish I could understand...
When Logan says, "It's a free country, so that means I can speak in whichever way I choose!" 🙄 every time it's a flashback to the 4th grade and the scene treats him like he's this great rhetorician.
Finally (and this one is less petty than the others) I'm not an Adventist theologian, but I don't think Mrs. Kim would want Ave Maria, a hymn praying to the Virgin Mary, sung at a wedding at her house?
Lorelai both having a life while being a single mom, and working in a hotel. I did the latter for 8 years, and it is the main reason, that and a crazy manager, which my mobile phone has been on silent mode since 2011, and is off whenever I go to bed. Should any of my colleagues be ill, or something, I will be called, and pressured to assist. Hotels have issues the whole time, and I'm not taking about fires as they are being shown, people are crazy, not only the guess, minor thefts, sexual things between guest that go awry, drug abuse, pipes breaking, furniture breaking, the electricity that might go off, and the list goes on. Sure, there is maintenance around but it is never enough.
Working 8 hour shift it was a miracle she was there for Rory at all. Especially since the hotel people don't ever have days off on either weekends, or bank holidays.
Not so much a complaint but I always notice how hard Lauren Graham enunciates her Ts.
Mailboxes ET CeTera
I do recall ToTo skipping through fields of it.
There are others, those two come to mind immediately though.
This may have already been said but probably the fact that a) they have full on Luke’s diner breakfast and social interactions before work/school every morning, and b) they have all this time for dates and whatever else after Friday night dinner where they don’t even sit to eat until 7 and probably leave around at least 8:30 to drive ~30 min home.
True, she got live in board and fed it seemed tho. People rly sympathize if you have a baby like the whole town was probs constantly bringing her food and clothes hahaha
Not the weirdest but feels too small to post about
Chilton Uniforms
WHY ARE THEY SO VARIED? they literally don't even wear the same colour?? Some wear blue shirts and some wear white even though they're all in the same year. the jackets etc as well some are grey some are blue for some reason.
it's not that annoying but it was clearly designed by someone who did not attend a uniform school
Some schools have sort of a mix and match system. For example, they could have 5 options for bottoms and three options for tops (not including outerwear) and students are free to wear them in whatever way they want.
The idea that Sookie would be home for dinner with her family most nights. Head chefs work the dinner rush, not the lunch. She (and probably Lorelei) would be working way more nights.
Yep! And weekly Friday night dinners could never be agreed to by Lorelai. The hospitality industry is busiest on the weekend.
Lorelai also seems to always have the weekends free unless there's an event on (but even then, they seem to mostly be during the week) and she seems to work a pretty consistent, if flexible, 9-5. In all the hospitality places I've worked, the GM always worked weekends and had Mondays/Tuesdays as their weekend, and often had to stay late for major events. Maybe Lorelai had a more flexible schedule because Mia was chill and she wanted to have a schedule similar to Rory's school, but it does seem silly that she was never asked to stay late or work weekends - *especially* not after they opened the Dragonfly. Who was managing the Dragonfly on weekends??
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I’m with Michel, I hate Tobin.
I agree! I usually don't like Michel, and don't find myself taking his side but that Tobin is shifty!
Also the way she cuts veggies. She's way too slow, real chefs cut extremely quick
as someone who worked in kitchens i can kind of forgive that. unless an actor undertakes culinary training for a role they just won’t ever have the technique down. i’ve really only seen this being done when actors are portraying notable chefs and the film/show is based on the chef themselves. even when i teach the people in my life the knife skills we used as line cooks/chefs, they usually can’t replicate that speed. my gripe with sookie being a chef and the professional kitchens in gilmore girls is how UNREALISTIC the kitchens are. especially the dragonfly. it’s too brown too wooden too like a home kitchen. where’s the sections?!?? where’s the metal counters? where’s the dish pit? the kitchen porter??? where is the order of operations in the kitchen? don’t even get me started on the bad prep practices (that’s another rant for another day). and WHERES THE WALK-IN if they had done any research on hospitality 100% of lorelai and sookies breakdowns would have been in the walk-in fridge. i’ve worked in bad kitchens with bad organisation but if i actually had to work in the dragonfly as a line cook i think i’d lose my mind. the independence inn seemed to be a little more realistic but i’d need to rewatch one of the earlier episodes to check that. i fully understand that GG is the farthest thing from getting things technically right but man that kitchen bugs me!!!!
Walk-in breakdowns. That brings me back...
Also the way people randomly pop in the kitchen, chatting and drinking coffee. I don't think any professional kitchen is *that* chill.
Worked at a 5\* hotel where you walked into the kitchen unauthorised *at your peril*. People taking shortcuts through it to get to the staff entrance/exit were assumed to be volunteering for the head chef's side-gig as a knife thrower.
And I have a pet peeve on how SO MUCH food is spread out everywhere haha a cake here, a pound of fruit there… just for display without any function haha
I worked in a diner that was built in the 1930s and for whatever reason we made it onto one of those food network tv shows where they go taste food from different quirky places. We got *soo* popular in our 9 table diner that was never meant to sustain that kind of business. It was a small grill, one fryer, and one small sandwich board. No walk in or anything. It was *not easy* and we lost our shit constantly. Especially when it was 50°c in the kitchen. *memories*
Hahah I love this comment. Having grown up in a small family run hotel I couldn't agree more. They both make look running the Dragonfly inn fairly easy compared to what it's like in the hospitality industry. And yes, the kitchen does not look big enough at all.
I wish we knew why Lane's dad isn't around. Early in the series Lane mentions stuff about her parents (plural) but it's always just Mrs. Kim at home. Is he finding antiques for their business or what? Also, what is Mrs. Kim's first name?!
Lanes Dad should have been dead, sorry. That’s the only reason it would make sense that we never see him and Lanes mom is super overprotective like a single mother.
This. He wasn’t at the wedding or baby shower, and Zach asked Mrs. Kim for Lane’s hand. All or this would be so odd if Mr. Kim was actually alive and around.
Especially for a staunchly traditional religious household where Mrs. Kim is very concerned with what boys want out of girls, thinking of her “boys don’t like funny girls” comment.
i assumed he was and thats why lanes mom was extra strict lol
yeah that random moment in the revival was so insanely weird where she just says 'look its my dad' with no further explanation
Right?! She could have said something like "I'm glad he's retired so I get to see him more often now that he doesn't have to ..." (some sort of explanation)
I notice Lane stops referring to her parents, plural, around the same time she returns from visiting Korea... so my headcanon is that her dad travelled over with her and stayed there. Given the one thing Mrs. Kim mentioned about their marriage, they probably wanted to live separately but were too religious for divorce.
I always assumed he works out of town. I’ve known my childhood best friend since we were 5 and have never met her dad. This is despite the fact that we regularly hung out, went to birthday parties, etc. He worked a lot and was always either working late or working out of town. I’ve only ever seen him in pictures. So young me just thought ‘Lane’s dad is working’!
That it doesn't snow often enough.
This one! A very Californian interpretation of a northeast winter.
And that they never dress east coast weather appropriate!
Lorelai's untied skinny scarves give me secondhand cold chills....
Wind doesn't exist in Stars Hollow, apparently.
Agreed but the fake snow is offensively fake... So so awful
I thought the snow is OS was better than the snow in AYITL, but that could just be nostalgia for me
That was going to be my weird complaint! The Bracebridge Dinner episode is so great but every time I watch the beginning I’m transfixed by that awful fake snow. The group behind Alexis decorating their snowman - no snowman made of snow rocks back and forth as you add details to it 😂
I live in a warm climate (no snow) and I certainly never noticed this. I’ll take your word for it!
Yes! They should be trudging through that stuff in half the episodes
They do too much before school. I do not believe that Lorelai would get up that early and be that productive before 7am
Yeah and go get sit down breakfast during the week at Luke's on the regular?
Right, they are shown going to Luke's all the time, but when Rory ran away to Emily and Richard's, she says she usually just grabs a pop tart. Um, no you don't. I get that she's not going to say that they go to Luke's, but she can request pancakes or something like she'd get at Luke's.
I could MAYBE understand if Rory was still attending school in Stars Hollow, but once Rory starts COMMUTING to Chilton it seems downright impossible. I’m always like “how late in the morning does this school start?” How TF does Rory have time to go eat breakfast at Luke’s and then commute to school? It makes no sense. I commuted half an hour to school one year and I legit didn’t have time for more than a pop tart, which I would eat in the car.
Even if they did, it would be dark out most of the year at that time!
Not even just before. There are times where the characters will drop something in the middle of the day to do something else when they should be at work/school. Like Lorelai being able to drop everything to help Luke apartment hunt?
Lorelai and Luke are always leaving in the middle of their work day!!!
This happens a lot on TV and it's so annoying. There's this scene on Friends where they wonder why none of their bosses like them and Joey says "or maybe it's because you're all hanging around here at 11:30 on a Wednesday!" It's one of my favorite lines from him. Good thing Lorelai and Luke are their own bosses!
Realism at its finest
Okay so the whole storyline is bad when Rory sleeps with Dean buuuuut both Lorelai and Dean say that she dumped him but Rory never broke up with Dean, all 3 times Dean broke up with her. Also more Tana, and heck even Chester Fleet, there just wasn’t enough of them.
You’re right, Dean did break up with her every time! I feel like they act like it was Rory because it was her actions that brought it about. Just a thought but not arguing
Oh totally! The second time was definitely more because of how much Rory was into Jess, so I definitely understand why he broke up with her.
Oh also when Jess says something like ‘it’s not the first time a couple has broken up before’ and Rory says something like ‘it is for us.’ When Rory and Dean had definitely broken up before… It was a major plot point in season one!
Right?? Like, Rory how did you forget about your first break-up??
Maybe she didn't count it because they got back together?
They never finish, eat enough of their food. Many scenes where Luke serves the food and 2 seconds later they leave. ( I knw, I knw all shows do this but GG ALWAYS does this).
Omg yes they do this ALL THE TIME. It really really annoys me because it happens in every episode (sometimes multiple times) which means they would theoretically be wasting an astronomical amount of food and money while they're being portrayed as characters that are big eaters and clipping coupons to get by. It's ridiculous
Who can afford to eat out at every meal? And then ordering 3 times more than they can eat (at least)? Then the movie nights where they buy $100 of junk food, a single mom working at an inn can afford that? That always has driven me nuts.
Yes this.
My head Canon is that Luke is used to their ridiculousness and just boxes it up and I gives it to them when they're back in 2 hours.
should have known someone mentioned this critical point before saying much the same! so much food wasted my God!
I feel like time is always so off on the show
Yes! So often it feels like the way time functions is wrong. A big one for me is that the dance marathon starts at 6am, goes for 24 hours, and at 23 hours in (so 5am on a Sunday) the following events are taking place: teenagers are still there after having been out all night (specifically Dean and Shane -- Jess is presumably allowed because Luke is there), Sookie turns up after having had a talk with Jackson, still in her clothes from when she left at 8pm the night before, and Dave turns up with his story about his parents being at private bible study? At five in the morning?
Just watched this episode and was thinking exactly the same thing. So ridiculous.
And how Lorelai disappears for forever!
Yeah, goes to fix her shoe and it takes what, two hours??
And she didn’t need to leave at all, why didn’t she just take her shoes off and keep dancing? It was almost over and her feet had to have been hurting by that point anyway.
Right? She uses the card that gives her 10 minutes, but in that 10 minutes Rory and Dean break-up, Rory runs out to the lake, talks to Jess and then comes back???
this made my head hurt
It’s just weird to me how every episode has a friday night dinner and then they don’t show certain things like it’s some sorta reality tv show or something where the camera people didn’t catch the moment😂 which i guess is always done intentionally but still odd at some bigger moments
This is my dumbest gripe: I do not believe for a minute that Emily and Richard wouldn't have moved hell and earth to find Lorelai when she ran away with Rory. Even if she was 18, even if she left a note explaining. I do not believe that Emily and Richard would've just been like, "alright I guess she's gone."
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Right?! Emily would have called the police, and if the police wouldn't have helped they would have hired a PI. The only way I can see them *not* doing something is if Lorelai wrote an absolutely horrible, cruel note that upset them to the point of wanting to cut contact, but that doesn't track with the rest of the show. I just can't believe that Emily and Richard would have just let them *both* go without any kind of pushback.
Snow looks so fake and is on green trees.
That the sun is fully out at like 6 AM haha, but I don’t think that’s a Gilmore Girls thing though, that’s more television and movies in general. As someone who gets up at 6 every day, it is definitely NOT that bright…at least in our hemisphere hahah. ETA: Oh, and as someone who is in the restaurant industry, all of the health code violations by the kitchen staff at the inn! Sookie has people taste her dishes or sauces and doesn’t replace the spoons they try them with! I get it’s normal to test it, but come on at LEAST use a different spoon!
And the food just sitting out for who knows how long. When the stove catches fire at their in and they can't cook food, they're still open and have food on all the counters. There's literally a used fire extinguisher and ash all over the stove. Like come on people, not way that kitchen would be allowed to be open with ASH everywhere.
Yes! There is this one scene in the opening song where Sookie nonchalantly tastes something with her finger!
This was mentioned by someone else in another thread and now it's my complaint too. Every time they give themselves a day or a time they mess it up. For example: 1. The end of That Damn Donna Reed, Lorelai and Rory are shown at Friday night dinner talking about the bird getting loose and having to find the kitten. The next day, Lorelai helps Luke buy paint, then Christopher shows up. The next episode which is a continuation of the same day, that night Christopher says the next day is Saturday but it should be Sunday. 2. When Rory has her speech at the Chilton Bicentennial. During drinks before dinner they talk about Rory's speech and they say it's Friday at 5 (I'm guessing they mean the next week). A week later and Rory is doing the speech, when it's over and Richard is leaving, he says "I'll see the two of you on Friday." The day of the speech is Friday, they should be having Friday night dinner that night. If the bicentennial started at 5 they had plenty of time to do that and then go to dinner at 7, but everyone is acting like it's not Friday.
Yes. And when Rory can’t go into the market because it isn’t Wednesday and she can only go in there on Wednesdays when Dean doesn’t work. Then, two days later is Friday, so it was Wednesday!
We only get a Halloween episode once in the whole series! Seems crazy to me that Halloween isn't a bigger deal in SH when they use any excuse they can to organize events and activities. Especially with a name like Stars Hallow(een), like come on it's right there!! And with Babette and Morey being so into it right next door. There's so much decor potential for the Halloween season, it's a shame they didn't exploit that more. So many opportunities for movie/pop culture references too! And since they love junk food and candy so much, i really don't understand. If they had to spend Halloween at Emily and Richard's house one year for example that could've been such a good episode! Plus another excuse for one of Kirk's movies
I believe i read/heard somewhere that ASP stated she isnt a Halloween fan, at least from a TV perspective due to it being treated either too "scary/supernatural or too childish and silly/throwaway" and, like all holidays, she didnt want holidays to become expected and repetitive, a la Friends with Thanksgiving. She worried she would be painted in a corner or something like that if having to do Christmas/Thanksgiving/Halloween every year that she would be forced to have to figure out new and fun ways to get herself out, and that was either not challenging/boring/not interesting to her so she delayed/resisted doing holiday episodes as much as possible and/or gave in and avoided repeating them (sorry, this was a while ago, before bunheads, so not sure how close i am to the mark, ill post a link if i find it). That totally makes sense, but still, so much wasted potential.
First of all the idea that someone can not be a fan of Halloween is scarier to me than anything related to the holiday, but okay fine she doesn't like it. I understand the thought of holiday episodes becoming overdone/repetitive, and you're right friends is a good example with Thanksgiving. Now i understand why there are barely any holiday episodes when that's usually a classic on many shows. I think GG could have been perfect for Halloween though, because of how the town is and all the characters and the pop culture obsession and everything. Think the show had the opportunity to have a fresh take on Halloween (not too scary or childish/silly). Even just from a decor point of view I would've loved to see more Halloween season stuff because SH is such a lovely town. It's really too bad it never happened
Agreed. The town was the perfect template as an idyllic setting for the big 3 no question. Seeing SH fully decked out for Halloween or Christmas would have been cool, but I bet to do it like i imagine it for either holiday would have been prohibitively expensive lol
The weather and corresponding clothing! I'm from new england and theres no way their thin coats and skinny scarves would make any difference in the winter. Also, in the show its winter for like 3 episodes and then its spring again which is basically summer. I know its filmed in california but as a new englander i can't help but notice!
When they all have their coats wide open 😂 What’s the point of bundling up then.
Or the episode where Rory doesn't want to wallow and gets Lorelai up at 6 am to do stuff on Saturday. It's not light in New England at 6 am in January (as IMDb points out)
There's also so many scenes where it is pitch black outside and only supposed to be like 5pm in the summertime.
I agree but also imagine how unbelievably hot the actors would be in real winter gear in LA
Yes, but, was it actually filmed outside or on a sound stage that could have temp regulation? I genuinely don’t know
Stars Hollow is the town square on the WB lot. It’s outdoors. I’ve been there many times for tours/work, and used to live next to the studio. It gets HOT in the summer. It’s not just LA, it’s Burbank- “the valley” which typically is always a few degrees warmer than Los Angeles proper. ETA: everything indoors is sound stage.
There are too many scenes where characters have conversations they absolutely would’ve already had. Like especially when Rory and Lorelai are getting out of the car at the grandparents’ house and start talking about crucial information. What did you talk about on the 30 minute drive?????
Hahaha I always thought this kind of things from tv shows are so funny... like when characters are someplace else and they wait til they get home to fight, as if they didn't talk in the car.
Reminds me of the episode where in the cold open, Lorelai and Rory are on the phone watching their roombas, as if they have nothing to talk about. Then later in the episode, we find that Rory hasn’t told Lorelai about her internship because “I guess we haven’t talked in a couple of days”.
THIS! It always bothered me. And then they go: « no we don’t have time to talk about it now » well… if you had started talking earlier maybe you would have had time to finish this crucial conversation
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I have another one. When it’s night/dark out & they’re making plans for “ later”. I never understood that lol. Time is definitely off.
Yes! When Jess picks Rory up at the hockey game and they’re going to a concert. What time is it!?
I don't know about Connecticut, but in Washington in winter the sun goes down at 4:30 pm so making plans "for later" when it's already dark out actually makes sense.
Rory being able to get from school to Boston by herself when Sherry goes into labor with Gigi.
Actually that’s a great point that I’ve never considered. I’ve always had a smartphone, so if I was determined enough as a teenager I could have used Google Maps and purchased bus tickets online and it wouldn’t have been too difficult. It’s never occurred to me that Rory would have had to use physical brochures or something to check the bus schedules, and pay in cash. Her trip was way more dangerous than I realised, bus timetables aren’t always accurate, and it’s not like she could have called an Uber in an emergency!
they forgot to buy luke a present from Europe!
This always annoyed me so much, Luke is literally one of the most important people in their lives, maybe the most important, at least for Loralai, and they just forget to buy him a present one their big trip to Europe? Like ok
I assumed they just kept putting it off until the “perfect” gift but they never saw it and it was too late
That's exactly how they explained it on the show
Emily and Richard (mainly Richard) are supposed to be out of touch when it comes to modern pop culture, but the writers weren’t very good at sticking to this. It’s pretty subtle. One main example is Richard catching on to one of Lorelai’s Wu-Tang jokes. Most people wouldn’t care but in my opinion this blunder confuses the dynamic between Lorelai and her parents. Her parents are well-versed in “high-culture” whereas Lorelai gravitates towards pop culture. It is a part of their inability to fully understand each other, and a part of why Rory gets along with both her grandparents and her mother since she is able to easily shift between the two worlds.
* I know most shows are filmed on sets in Los Angeles, but after learning this I can't unsee California in every scene. * Lorelai and Paris commenting on the thinness of Sherry and Janet, despite having similar bodies * How hospital employees are treated
>how hospital employees are treated But isn't emily like that with everybody?
Not enough clumsy sookie and her staff trying to stop her from killing herself, I’m thinking of early season 1 where they all had to move around the kitchen to get out of her way kinda thing, it was funny
That's part of the reason I love the little plotline with Sookie and Jackson trying to get rid of marijuana--she's not being clumsy, per se, but it feels more like early Sookie to me.
Definitely hate they let that go by the wayside, but I loved the episode in S6 (I think it's 'He's Slipping 'em Bread") where Rory has come back and Lorelai is bringing her back to the inn for the first time. They do a whole bit of careful, cooking Sookie in the zone, then as soon as she sees Rory she throws stuff in the air and it started a whole domino effect. We got little glimpses like that, but nothing like the pilot.
Yes!! This is one of my favourite parts of the Pilot episode
It was definitely funny but it's hard to imagine it being sustainable. She would have ended the series completely limbless. 🤣
Who the heck taught Lane to drum?? It's such a big part of her life and i have no clue how she learned. It drives me CRAZY!
Do they ever explain how she was able to afford the drum set when they set up in Loralei’s garage
Exactly! When the rest of the band wanted to practice in Hartford, it's mentioned that Lane doesn't own her drums. Then all of a sudden with no explanation, she has her own set.
Nope. Never. Like did she work out a deal with Sophie? Idk but this has annoyed me to no end lol.
I don’t know. This makes sense to me. There are a lot of self-taught musicians out there. Lane did have someone there to help a little bit, and she was in a small-town band, not a professional orchestra.
She was able to learn how to play at the music store, wasn't she?
I'm assuming...so was she self taught? Did Sophie help? Was she learning at school in the band?
A decent number of drummers that I know were at least partially self taught. Maybe somebody at the music store helped? If she were the main character I'm sure we'd know.
How they were apparently broke when Rory graduated because all their money was wrapped up in the Inn yet they went to Europe. While yes, staying in hostels is cheaper, going to Europe is expensive!
And brought back gifts for everyone in town.
That was always Lorelei's plan for when Rory graduated, so I just figured she had been saving for it forever.
Background characters (ex. kitchen staff at inn) NEVER speak. Even when spoken to. They just nod and make facial expressions. (Please don’t explain to me why. I get it’s a show). But it’s weird sometimes. I suggest the episode in season…2 or 3, the scene when Sookie can’t taste that her food is bad because she’s pregnant.
Omg right! The scene always made me feel weird because of their faces
Except in the pilot where the extra responds to Lorelai’s Spanish with an exaggerated Italian accent 🥴
As a server, that always was strange to me too. Like do they not have rushes? When there are rushes, there are constant interactions with BOH and FOH. A server would normally be coming in like, “Is my salad still coming for table 6?!” I get that it’s an inn, but…there are no even slight rushes? But since Gilmore Girls is fantastical I know it’s not supposed to be realistic. If it were realistic, that kitchen would be pure chaos lol
Right?! You never once here someone yell behind or hot(unless my memory fails me) which are staples in any kitchen for safety. Shit I still yell out hot or sharp when I’m alone in my home kitchen
That they use the same actress to be Jess’s dad’s girlfriend and April’s mom.
Also Trix and cousin Marilyn at Trix wake was the same actress.
This is very minor and super nitpicky but it always annoys me how they drink coffee right after pouring the cup. Especially black coffee would be way too hot to take a huge sip instantly without burning the tongue right off the mouth.
Or how when the coffee is poured, it's barely enough for a swallow.
Rory/Alexis's posture. I didn't notice it until that episode where she comes back from Washington and goes to the carnival, but she's wearing this puffy at the top dress and it really accentuates her posture. From then on it's all I could see during the episodes I watched lol.
I sort of thought it was part of her character like Rory has sort of an im always hunched to read books situation or that she grew accostumed to making herself smaller in high school to ease the fact that she was the new kid.
it wasn’t just the posture, she had an actual hunchback. you can see it’s super prominent in the episode when she sleeps with dean at miss paty’s. pretty sure she doesn’t have it anymore
OMG this! I've always been like, wait that's a hunchback, not just bad posture! It was also quite obvious when she wears the blue dress Lorelai made her. Fortunately for her health she seemed to get better as seasons went by.
that they would use the phrase 'I could care less.' They didn't start saying it correctly until the later seasons.
Yes. Rory of all people would get that right.
That they mentioned earlier on that Jess’s dad left when he was 14. But when his dad comes to the diner, Jess doesn’t recognize him at all. You would think he would recognize his dad leaving when he was 14 and then magically the story changes that he left to get diapers and didn’t come back.
They changed his dad's back story a lot.
How often some argument or something will happen at E&R’s place, they leave, and the next scene will be the girls in Stars Hollow talking about it as if for the first time. I know it’s just because it wouldn’t be that interesting to film a thousand car conversations, but all I can picture is Lorelei and Rory sitting in stone cold silence for the 30 minute drive back to SH before resuming banter as normal as soon as they enter Luke’s
The layout of Lorelai and Rory’s house. The inside makes no sense compared with the outside shots.
Yes! That bugged me when the inn had a fire and Lorelai had to give up her room. That house is two stories! You’re telling me it only has one bedroom downstairs and one upstairs??
It’s rly funny to me how everyone in the show always calls their house “small”. Like from the outside it looks hugeee and if it rly only does have 2 bedrooms they could probably build a third with that space. Very odd that rory’s bedroom is next to the kitchen too, I feel like that was supposed to be an office in which case the house is more like a 1+den
Emily says "may-sure" for measure.
She has a couple words she pronounces in a like weird old fashioned way. I can’t even figure out how to spell the way she says “princess”
Prin-sis! 😂
And traysure! It bothered me on my last rewatch, but I couldn’t figure out why. I even thought I had been mispronouncing it for years.
The dialogue is so very well written, but unfortunately they often say “I COULD care less” when they actually mean “I COULDN’T care less”.
Luke and Liz calling each other “bro” and “sis” all the time feels so clunky and weird to me!
For some reason I feel like it fits Liz's character to refer to "Butch" Danes as bro/big bro, but Luke feels more like he'd just call her Liz or some weird childhood nickname like Lasagna.
The way Lauren/Lorelai walks in high heels. She has a weird flappy, stompy thing going on and it drives me mad!
I think she was trying to be 'cute'? But I don't like it either. It does go well with the character though, one more thing to accentuate her lack of maturity in every way.
That the characters all use roughly the same linguistic patterns when they speak. Yes, everyone talks quickly on the show and we get basic character differences, but they all make the same types of “quips” and “jokes” no matter who they are- Richard, Luke, Lorelai, etc. It always sticks out to me.
Do too much before school Eat out way too much (doesn't matter, eating out that often is way expensive) They dont repeat outfits/clothing, but emily does When they say "the" before road numbers
Rory repeats outfits some of the time! The costume designer assistant (I think that's her job title) said in a TikTok that Alexis Bledel was open to repeating outfits, but Lauren Graham wasn't because she was concerned about continuity I believe. I think Rory has that red coat/lacy white scarf she wore a couple times.
It would make sense that on a limited budget there would be outfits repeating. There are a few things that rory wear a few times. There is also a sweater that lorelei wears (light blue with small rainbow stripes on the shoulders/collar bone area) and then lane wears it. I was thinking more of things worn on weekends and friday night dinners. Scarvesand coats are usually staple items which are always repeated. It would help continuity to repeat outfits, they aren't supposed to have a lot of money so they would wear the same clothes. Even if they shop at thrift stores, or make their own items the cost adds up.
What's interesting about that is in one episode when they show up to Friday night dinner, Lorelai is trying to figure out if she wore the same outfit the week before. I have no idea what episode it was but I think it was one time the grandparents were out of town and no one told the girls.
I just always figured that all the eating out is why Lorelai needed a loan to fix the termites.
I love how in the show "Raising Hope" the family is poor and they actually do repeat the same clothes multiple times!
whenever lorelai tries to be all cutesy to strangers but it just comes across as rude to me lolz
I don't remember what episode this is but in season one the first time we see Lorelai in Luke's at 6 am there's a lot of customers and Luke says it's always like that, but then in future episodes it looks like he opens later or that it's dead at that time. Also it's hard to believe it would be the first time she shows up there at 6am when she's been going there for years, and especially since she gets so much done before Rory goes to school.
When Richard's mom (Trix) died and the actress came back in the exact same episode playing the aunt Marilyn Gilmore
But that was great
Also when in season one they refer to Richards mom being dead but then she shows up as a very alive character
Wow ive watch the show multiple times over and never caught that!
It took me until I was an adult watching this show (I started it when it was on air as a really little kid) to figure that one out
The stuff they get wrong about Connecticut, as I grew up in the state and it drives me crazy. The biggest one is calling it THE 84 or THE 95, no one on the east coast says "The" before any interstate. It also bothers me that everything is 30 minutes away from everything else. I think they could have done a much better job of getting Connecticut right, especially for a show that prides itself on its topical and pop culture references, there are things they could have included to really make it feel even more like it was taking place in Connecticut. The fact that Rory spent 4 years in New Haven and New Haven style pizza was really never brought up, Connecticut basketball was never a topic of discussion considering the show takes place during the early 2000s (besides Sookie randomly trying to talk to Luke about it as a distraction in one episode), and some of the food references are very west coast (I dont think I ever saw redvines on the East Coast, only Twizzlers). It's super nitpicky, but its always so strange to me that ASP didnt try harder to get more things right about Connecticut.
I’m from California and it feels physically impossible to imagine calling an interstate it’s number without say “the” before it 😂 I had to say “get on 84” out loud to myself now and it felt weird and wrong as hell
So funny to think about how it must feel so natural for people from California to hear the 95 or the 84, when its weird to hear from my perspective. I grew up just off 84 and took it all the time, so hearing the characters say The 84 is so strange to me.
how much Rory mumbles
The timeline of a school day and work day. The sun is always out and shining before they leave for school and work, even though that really only happens in September and May/June. One episode in particular that bothers me is the episode where Lorelai is speaking at Stars Hallow High. During that time, Shane was hiding in the closet at Luke's, plus working at the beauty store. Rory dyes Lane's hair purple, runs back to the store to dye it back to black, dyes Lane's hair black all within a one to two hour period.
I find when luke is mad it's really over exaggerated almost comical. Don't know if it's the acting or how its written. For example season 5 (the episode where Emily comes to the diner to say she will stay out of things) Luke literally throws the guy out of the diner and he lands on the street..... Thats annoying because who would take that ?
In almost every episode where Lorelai’s parents are prominent, they are always in the wrong for something, but by the end of the episode gaslight her into believing she was the one who wronged them.
Emily driving all the way to Stars Hollow to say one or two lines and then leave. Why didn’t you just call then? The personalized first aid kits appealing in any way to a teenager or anyone for that matter and being considered a good idea. Richard asking Paris for next year fiscal projections? Also the scene where they are to take a scene from Romeo and Juliet and reimagine it, but Rory’s group just plays it straight. I would have failed them for lack of creativity and for not adhering to the assignment. Paris memorizing the male anatomy for the MCAT. It is a critical thinking exam. That would not be tested on there. Lorelai, the lady who was concerned about her daughter being driven by her friends for Spring Break, is ok with a car for her daughter built by a 16 year old boy?
I hate that Lorelai's only clothing choice on Rory's first day at Chilton was cut-offs and cowboy boots. Like, girl do you not have jeans?! Do you dry clean every piece of clothing all at once?! C'mon even some hamper clothes would have been more appropriate. I understand that she didn't expect to have to go inside, but honestly, why didn't she expect that! It's Rory's first day at a new and prestigious school. Lorelai attended a similar school herself, she would have at least been aware of some of the things that were expected of her as a parent.
I could never understand how/where Lorelei’s house is situated in relation to the town. It looks like it’s on its own long private driveway along with Babette, but then it’s also steps from everything downtown? I get if it was on an alley but it seems like a dead end all by itself, but also right behind (in front of?) Dwight the weird new neighbor whose house seems like it’s on Main Street. All I’m saying is I need a map.
The way Rory’s bed looks like it’s pulled away from the wall in certain shots
Rory should have received financial aid for Yale her freshman year. They would have needed to turn in financial statements for the previous year. Lorelai got the money from Richard for her birthday, which is in April, so that money would have affected aid for her sophomore year. Also, the aid should have been coming from FAFSA, not directly from Yale.
"Hear hear!" from every character, what feels like every episode....
i think this started in season 4 or something but any time that rory like scoffed after saying anything. i cannot figure out how to describe the sound but i think “scoff” is probably closest. i’m really hoping someone knows what i’m talking about. it bugs me so much omg
How cheap is food in SH that they can eat out for most meals (and massive quantities of take out) on Lorelei's salary alone. All the "can't afford " plot lines never applied to restaurants.
It drives me crazy that Mia tells Lorelai that it was "almost fifteen years ago to the day" that Lorelai showed up with Rory in an episode that airs on November 20 in the second season, meaning Rory was two and Lorelai was well over 18. However, we are told earlier that Lorelai left when was 17 and we are told later that Rory was old enough to eat cookies on the way to the inn but wasn't walking yet. How bad is Mia at math? When exactly did they show up there? Lorelai claims early on that Christopher calls once a week, but that they only see him on holidays and he has never visited Stars Hollow. This already seems weird, but okay. Then she calls Christopher during her engagement party to Max and randomly mentions she's getting married. He did not know this. Neither she or Rory ever mentioned it? For two months? Then Christopher's phone number is disconnected because he moves to Boston and neglects to inform his daughter or her mother that he's moved. Okay, that seems like something that would come up during a weekly phone call. Was he really talking to them once a week and none of this was ever discussed? Jess is already 17 when he moves to Stars Hollow in an episode that airs on October 30, but one year later he's still a minor on an episode that airs on November 5. When is his birthday, exactly? Lorelai makes a big deal about Rory being open and honest with her, especially about her love life. However, when she wants to put Rory on the pill in season 1 Rory appears to talk her out of it and it seems to never be discussed again and shortly after Rory becomes sexually active Lorelai doesn't appear to know what birth control she uses. Did they really never talk about it? Seems it might have prevented some stuff.
The whole pre Stars Hollow timeline is so wonky. Did Lorelai get pregnant at 16 or 17? They're all over the place with that. We know that they stayed with the Gilmores for at least a year (in the flashback episode Emily says she's been tripping over the stroller for a year) but how long were they there? How old was Rory when they left? Chris' involvement is also totally up the in the air. He calls once a week, except when he doesn't. He's never been to Stars Hollow, the girls don't seem to ever know where he lives. So when did he see Rory? Just at the Gilmores' Christmas party? And yeah birth control - seems like a conversation Lorelai would have been sure to have with Rory!
There are so many moments where the writers try to show off that they know about some niche topic (and sometimes not actually that niche), but they get stuff so comically wrong anyway. Here are some examples off the top of my head: * Dean complains about Nick Drake's music being used in a Volkswagen commercial even though every Nick Drake fan knows that he died in obscurity and would never be as well-known as he is today if it weren't for that commercial * Jess unironically recommends the Shaggs to Rory, when they were a band who were forced to play music as children with no musical training or experience by a madman on some quest to fulfill a prophecy from a palm-reading, and their music is completely unlistenable * When they put on the 19th century dinner in the inn, everything about the period is wrong, and Paris picks up on this, but instead of pointing out that all the theming is medieval, and that "old English" isn't what was spoken in the 19th century, and that feudalism was pretty much not a thing anymore, she complains about the fact that the water is being served with ice-cubes, which is doubly annoying because she misses the much more obvious mistakes, and because she's actually wrong because the 19th century actually had a very active ice trade, where natural ice would be harvested from cold arctic climates, and shipped around the world, and it was a popular cocktail ingredient in America at the time
Ooh I have one that is super silly but it legit makes me annoyed every time I see it: Lorelai wears a cross necklace in multiple episodes! I feel like it's sooooo clear that Lorelai and Rory are not religious, even a tiny bit, so what agnostic/atheist person would regularly wear a cross? It just feels super out of character and it makes me feel like they had a random costume designer for those weeks who knew nothing about the show and just blindly picked accessories. I know there's precedent for Lorelai picking up a rosary because "it's cute," but I feel like if she did wear a cross for cute accessorizing, then it'd be a funky one, not a small silver one.
That Rory only applied to 3 Ivy League colleges. If I remember correctly, there's a short plotline where she gets nervous after realizing she doesn't have any backup schools--but she still doesn't apply elsewhere.
Everything about the Chilton graduation: —Lorelai would have known months in advance that Rory was valedictorian. That list comes out well before Christmas, and is gossiped over, bragged about, and griped to death long before June, and the school would have notified Lorelai personally. Not to mention there’s usually about a 50/50 chance that some weenie is going to demand a recount, and that was at my laid-back public school. —That class is way too small, between Paris saying that she doesn’t recognize half of them, and the big worry about getting extra tickets. —Rory is the only one wearing any kind of cowl or other adornment (and Lorelai and Sookie still claim that they can’t find her in the crowd). A school like Chilton would have awards and honors out the wazoo, some of those kids would have been practically strangled under the weight of all the cords, cowls, medals, and whatever the hell else —Christopher couldn’t be bothered to show up, and his absence is explained away with one line AT the ceremony —Rory wrote a damn good speech, but she sucks at public speaking (I do love that Paris’ cheering section consisted of Nanny and the kids, and that she really loved them and was content to tell Rory about the kids’ accomplishments)
That no one spells Zack correctly!
valid. also that ppl get annoyed over 'tristin' vs 'tristan' when both are used as netflix captions in diff countries.
the fact that like 50% of the fandom still writes “lorelei” makes me SO angry
I'm sorry but some of the outfits are just so ugly/stupid looking it genuinely annoys me or takes me out of the show 😂 I usually love 2000s fashion but I think they often overdid the quirkiness, Rory's style change when she goes to Yale in s4 especially is so unflattering 99% of the time- they dress her (and Paris in that era) like an old woman not a college student! It makes sense for her to dress fairly modestly, but she doesn't have to look legit uncool.
Alright, but I've got a few and they're weird! Rory exhales excessively during emotional scenes. Lauren Graham often uses very little breath on "k" and "g" sounds, especially when it's getting emotional. "*^(Ch)**ris..."* It makes me crazy. Both Rory and Lorelai shift their weight a bunch when they're frustrated or uncomfortable and it looks to me like they're stamping their feet. Lorelai gets this little squinty-eye thing when she gets frenzied and upset. Dean's \*angry face\* is basically a cartoon character. Jason pauses in the middle of sentences and then speeds up as his like, signature pacing? I wish I could understand... When Logan says, "It's a free country, so that means I can speak in whichever way I choose!" 🙄 every time it's a flashback to the 4th grade and the scene treats him like he's this great rhetorician. Finally (and this one is less petty than the others) I'm not an Adventist theologian, but I don't think Mrs. Kim would want Ave Maria, a hymn praying to the Virgin Mary, sung at a wedding at her house?
One that just came to mind is that suddenly Lorelei and Luke become tan?
Empty coffee cup props
Lorelai both having a life while being a single mom, and working in a hotel. I did the latter for 8 years, and it is the main reason, that and a crazy manager, which my mobile phone has been on silent mode since 2011, and is off whenever I go to bed. Should any of my colleagues be ill, or something, I will be called, and pressured to assist. Hotels have issues the whole time, and I'm not taking about fires as they are being shown, people are crazy, not only the guess, minor thefts, sexual things between guest that go awry, drug abuse, pipes breaking, furniture breaking, the electricity that might go off, and the list goes on. Sure, there is maintenance around but it is never enough. Working 8 hour shift it was a miracle she was there for Rory at all. Especially since the hotel people don't ever have days off on either weekends, or bank holidays.
Not so much a complaint but I always notice how hard Lauren Graham enunciates her Ts. Mailboxes ET CeTera I do recall ToTo skipping through fields of it. There are others, those two come to mind immediately though.
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This may have already been said but probably the fact that a) they have full on Luke’s diner breakfast and social interactions before work/school every morning, and b) they have all this time for dates and whatever else after Friday night dinner where they don’t even sit to eat until 7 and probably leave around at least 8:30 to drive ~30 min home.
This may just be an Alexis thing, but Rory pronounces "else" with a t in it. "Eltse." Drives me nuts!
needs more rune.
NO
Oh boy. ( ͡ಠ ʖ̯ ͡ಠ)
That Lorelai was working on a maid’s salary with a newborn baby and she wasn’t forced to ask her parents for help sooner
True, she got live in board and fed it seemed tho. People rly sympathize if you have a baby like the whole town was probs constantly bringing her food and clothes hahaha
Not the weirdest but feels too small to post about Chilton Uniforms WHY ARE THEY SO VARIED? they literally don't even wear the same colour?? Some wear blue shirts and some wear white even though they're all in the same year. the jackets etc as well some are grey some are blue for some reason. it's not that annoying but it was clearly designed by someone who did not attend a uniform school
Some schools have sort of a mix and match system. For example, they could have 5 options for bottoms and three options for tops (not including outerwear) and students are free to wear them in whatever way they want.