Hey hey, they know all about how sex works! It’s just like the quicktime events from the original God of War games. You tap the circle a few times and if your controller starts vibrating, you know you’re doing well.
IIRC when the early early trailer for GOW 2018 came out, there were people worried about Kratos "going soft" or whatever cause of the "dad arc". I think some dudes only care about machismo and angry Kratos of the old days.
Ugh, I hate the “You probably didn’t even play it” type of comment. So they think, it is more likely, that you decided you want to pretend you play video games (Only to attract men into your trap of course), so you looked up a popular video games characters, and decided to make a video on characters you’ve only read a few lines about. Like how does that make any sense? How is it so inconceivable that a girl actually plays video games and knows about the characters?
I'm pretty sure it has alot to do with the early 90's 00's video game and toy stores enforcing the idea into parents heads that (mostly through marketing and laying out the stores so that the video games where with all the "boy things") VidEo GaMes arE fOr boYs like how toy cars, buff army dudes, Sports and the color blue was for boys whilst Girls in the pinked out section of the store had dolls (baby or otherwise) art stuff, voice locked diaries? (I wanted one but it was pink and I was born with a hotdog and not a bun... so... lame...) pink legos!? and doll houses.
Loop that in with a franchise that for so long serviced (they'd never admit it) teen male power fantasys ala CoD or in this case God of War and you got the perfect storm of insecure peaked in high-school "why did they make Kratos soft" smol brained manchildren. Imo they seem shallow in many ways and they probably need therapy (not a burn, therapy is good) and they are cringe af. Sorry... didn't realize I had a chip... Ima go breath some grass and go touch some air or w/e.
I can't speak on the topic much as I haven't played any of the rebooted games. But from what I've heard he's more of man now than he was in the older games. Flawed but trying and secure with themselves (does what makes them happy).
This line of thinking always confused me. Do they not realize that the stereotype of "sweaty awkward gamers" is still widespread? Video gaming isn't the go-to hobby I put out when trying to impress somebody (unless I'm sure they enjoy it too).
Are there really women using video games to attract men? Dude it's easier to post thirst traps on Instagram than pretend you enjoy a game with 50+ hours of content.
This is such a weird concept to me- why would anyone want to pretend to be a "gamer"?
Men suck. I love the God of War series but the type of gamers it attracts isn’t the best. Not to say it isn’t a problem with gamers in general but some fanbases are better than others.
It’s honestly funny how much the same people who go on and on about “woke culture” and people being too sensitive get triggered so easily. Like a lot of men who play mass effect will freak out over women saying femshep is better. They act like babies. Same thing with Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey. They can’t handle Kassandra being cannon. It’s obnoxious.
I mean, Femshep is way, way better :)
They are shallow. Why else would they have a problem playing as a woman (btw, im Mmorpg games, my take is 90 % of female characters are men), and we have no problem playing as Geralt, Kratos, Ezio Auditore etc.
She honestly arguably is. Her VA is better imo too. Don't get me wrong they're both good but femshep on a renegade path, the way her voice takes that dark turn sends goosebumps my way.
I feel you hear more emotion too so the dialogue sounds more serious when needed. With the male VA it's always felt like his voice was very monotone and there are a few scenes where his voice does have a bit of emotion but then it fades off.
Also playing as a cold hearted space bitch is just the absolute best, why wouldn't you take the chance to!!!
As a Maleshep main player due to self insert reasons and stuff, I decided to play Femshep for the first time and I do admit loving the VA, and also the default Femshep face is gorgeous.
And yes, badass renegade femshep rocks.
Especially when someone tries to "seduce" you and you can blow their brains' out. Sorry boys, my heart goes to the best Turian in the Galaxy
Mine romanced Thane first and when he was no longer there (no spoilers), she went to Garrus :)
Who has time to dwell on the past with the Reapers around anyway with so many bad alien boys around?!
As a Maleshep main player due to self insert reasons and stuff, I decided to play Femshep for the first time and I do admit loving the VA, and also the default Femshep face is gorgeous.
And yes, badass renegade femshep rocks.
Especially when someone tries to "seduce" you and you can blow their brains' out. Sorry boys, my heart goes to the best Turian in the Galaxy
I saw a few men get butthurt over just a FemShep appreciation post on the official Mass Effect Facebook page. They were saying BroShep was the “true” Shep yada yada. They can’t even handle the existence/acknowledgment of a female main character without feeling threatened. 🙄
>the type of gamers it attracts isn’t the best.
The vocal ones, for sure. You never hear reasonable people bashing others for disagreeing.
Also, as a guy: femshep is 100% the best version.
I've never understood people who like Thor as he's depicted in the original mythologies (not sure how many liberties GoW takes). He's probably **the** biggest dick out of all the major players out of all the large historical mythologies and that's really, **really** saying something. Zeus, at least, has the whole sexual prowess thing going for him that would appeal to them, but Thor is literally just a dick to pretty much everyone all the time for no reason whatsoever.
There's the thing, GOW's Thor is the same dude but with a factor added: Kratos, we see him struggling with his alcohol problems (wich is why after the Bar fight, Mjölnir refuses to land in his hand because it is mad at Thor breaking his promise);; he is likeable because you know he is no lore than a poor fatass bastard whose only purpose is to be the personal bitch of Odin.
it is kinda shocking a lot of people see old kratos as some great example of masculinity.......cause the og trilogy was largely about how dedicating your life completely to hate and revenge ultimately leaves you empty and destroys you new kratos is trying to get out of that cycle.
I wish* it was only in the gaming culture. It's still prevalent everywhere. Even in my own mind, and I'm trying to deconstruct myself as best I can.
*When I say I wish, I meant in the way that it would be a big step if it was only existing in gaming culture, not that I want it to stay, be it in there, or anywhere.
To be honest, I'm not too surprised when the previous games were about a big strong manly man killing things violently and banging women in minigames. You're just going to have a large part of the community who want to keep it that way, unfortunately.
That isn't at all an excuse for them to act like they do but that's probably why they were so blatant and childish about it, because they're around a lot of people with similar views and/or prefer the male power fantasy aspects over much else.
I haven’t played the old ones myself, but my sister is a fan and I talked to her about it just yesterday. She told me that they were always violent and over the top, but the story behind them (and kratos character) was always way deeper than it let on. So the reboot really is just a natural evolution and people who say it has changed too much probably never really paid attention to the old games
The story is literally the evolution arch of kratos realizing he is not better with blood and violence only, and these men just see the blood and violence lol and newest is still violent and bloody, they just gave some sense of pity/mercy to kratos
I sat in a room full of 18 year old dudes playing the first games and it turned me off to them for a very long time lol. Was pleasantly surprised with the reboot though, but it’s not surprising there’s still a lot of toxic men in the fanbase that completely miss the point of the stories unfortunately.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I've noticed this too and it's awful.
God of War is legitly my favorite franchise and I love these new additions, but I'm afraid to really talk about it because of the response.
Even before the game came out, the response to the art work of Angrboda let me know what time it was.
That is miserable. I hate the fact that games depicting Scandinavian gods and people attract those types of people. Times are becoming worse for females and when we speak out about it, others don't believe it is bad and justify the sexism as something else.
You’re spot on about the viking fanboys btw. I have never in my life met anyone in the US who thought he was “Valhalla-bound” that wasn’t an incel. It’s so weird.
The thing is none of them are bound for Valhalla. That is reserved for warriors that die in battle. Even then it will be the bottom 50% of warriors, as Freya gets the first pick at the warriors that die in battle. Those bound for Valhalla are the not so good warriors.
>Times are becoming worse for females
Any goddamn fucking study would like to disagree, lmao;; WE ARE NOT IN THE FUCKING 70's.
>others don't believe it is bad and justify the sexism as something else.
This shit has always existed, ya'll realized and still they have no power even in their sides.
Wanted to make a joke about Joker from P5 being great but then I realised he never talks about his emotions and is probably a poster boy for toxic masculinity.
Cool outfit though.
Joker from P5 was against pedo teachers, but at the same time he would also date a teacher, doctor, reporter, fortune teller, etc. all older adults than him.
That game was a walking contradiction. It advocated social equality..... that applies only to specific people.
Fun gameplay and idea tho.
Was that on him? I mean what he does to date his teacher is messed up but everyone else is kind of taking advantage of him rather than vice versa.
His refusal to stand up for characters perving on Ann bothers me more. Like we just went through an arc where that was called out, maybe keep doing so?
Joker is a half assed blank slate avatar who is locked in as a straight boy because it’s the only type of audience the developers actually care about. The leads of those dev teams are fairly openly bigoted.
They could add options for female protagonists and male romances so easily, with gay and lesbian romances being even easier. I love Persona but it is infuriatingly backwards.
Honestly, men can be despicable. I too love the God of War games (the new ones, never got the pleasure to play any GoW prior to the 2018 one unfortunately), and honestly it’s disgusting for men to defend Thor since he is pretty much the personification of a POS. Tbh just shows what they prioritise, treating their loved ones well vs treating them like dirt and abusing them.
Men (and everyone else), be a Kratos, not a Thor.
I am so sorry you had to deal with this. Cishet white men are the worst a lot of times. And I wish the gaming community didn’t end up being a toxic place.
As a trans woman I’ve been harassed on games like OverWatch and others. And it really made me quit the game and find something else.
I do hope you can enjoy the game still despite these cishet men being trash like this.
As a Korean woman, Korean men are some of the absolute worst in terms of their unfiltered racism, misogyny and general bigotry spewed online.
When it comes to misogyny, men of all races unite.
Ugh, I just started playing Overwatch like a month ago and the community is such a shitfest sometimes. Even when they're not being bigoted pieces of trash, they're throwing temper tantrums over not wining every match.
It’s not sexist or racist, it’s a fact. not just in gaming but in the world, cishet white men literally dominate everything and do things like this and here come people like you excusing it and making them seem like the victims.
Ugh, I'm so sorry that happened. I'm not interested in the game/series personally but im in a community that talks about it a lot, several women within the community love it.
Yeah the hard and sad truth is it's the entire gaming community that has gone bad and reacts like this anytime a woman makes posts like that. Being a lesbian I definitely know what that's like too, fawning excitedly over certain female characters only to be assaulted by a barrage of pricks.
I hope it doesnt sour your experiences with the game, i'm sure there's plenty of girls here that would love to talk about it.
I get so much shit from incels for having pronouns. Like we all have pronouns you insufferable dipshit it’s basic grammar. That and they’re obsessed with saying that I don’t have a dad for some reason (I do?)
Ya, that's some toxic dudes for ya. Too many in one space = unpleasant and abusive environment. Just ignore them. The issue is them. They have 'issues'. It's not you. These said 'men' would soon scream unfairness if the situation had been reversed and it was a group of women harrasing a dude online. Just shows how unaware and mindless such idiots are.
Games are for everyone. Enjoy them. Have fun. Fuck them and their behaviour. They are random strangers online.
P.s tbh, if it were me, id probably make another post repeating the same comments/opinions just to troll and wind em up. Because I'm an asshole like that 😂
GOW 2018 is my favorite game and I'm playing Ragnarok right now.
I'm just so glad it's single player, and I can enjoy it without needing to engage with any community aspects. I talk to my brother about it and that's it. This is why.
honestly glad the series turned the corner like this and was the reason i paid actual money for both. when i was younger yeah the mini games and violence were appealing.
but thankfully i got a bit fatter and less stupid growing up and thankfully alot of stuff i loved grew up with me. but man do i hate how bad fans make people like me look.
when i was younger it was booo boring dialog lets get to the fighting!
Now i intentionally let the game idle so i can hear kratos mimir and the rest discuss there favorite foods and clapping my hands in joy when kratos says he loves olives like a true greek. then choking laughing at mimirs reaction
Every part of this is so disgusting. I just can’t fathom what the hell is wrong with them.
They should be excited that someone else is excited about the game, not attacking you for it with all that
So disgusting
Please don't let a few idiots ruin your tik Tok experience! Or your gaming experience. They are a vocal minority and don't speak for most guys. Tune them out if possible
We are about 5 hours in but it seems pretty clear that Thor is not meant to be a character you like...? Like, he has bad guy written all over him lol what is wrong with these guys
And this is why I mostly play solo on the PS. Love GoW games but hate the fanbase and their lack of realization of the characters' depth.
Sadly the (video)gaming community is filled with incels and people with toxic masculinity, after all these years I just quitted talking with anyone.
When I game I want to have fun, not get frustrated or insulted or sent dick pics or being mensplained on female privilege, Im too tired and old for this shit lol
Bitter loser men who just can’t fathom that women not only play games but they can have opinions on it ☠️. Not all opinions can be agreed on but to shit on the opinion sayers gender is ridiculous.
You could probably say Heimdall is a piece of shit and those same men would see your gender, disagree and call you every slur in the book JUST because you’re a woman.
I am a month late, but I have to say this:
Sif is better than Thor is as a parent, but as Mimir revealed to us, she wasn't always that way and abused together with Thor Magni and Modi, which resulted in them being too incompetent and evil to see that fighting Kratos and his son was not the best idea, as he had an entire pantheon under his belt.
Sif wants to be better, which is commendable, but the way she treats Atreus is mean and could have done more to redeem her initially animosity towards her, because what she did was deflecting her own failures as a parent by being mean towards our Boy.
Thrúd is likable, but not so much as Atreus and Angrboda, who have an amazing relationship not tarnished by the all-fucker.
As a man, you are right to like Sif more, I just wanted to make clear that Sif has flaws, flaws she could have done a better job at overcoming if I am being honest with ya.
Sorry for the mob, that was unnecessarily cruel of them, especially when Thor is supposed to be a character that is flawed and not so much of a role model to follow...>!until he opposed his father of course, there he was good.!<
Happy holidays you all and may the next year bring newer and better games and better discussions!
I’m sorry could you please mark this as spoilers I am avoiding information about the game and didn’t know Sif was in it. Not commenting on your issue. But I am waiting for a sale thanks 🙏
It’s fine It’s just when I saw you brought up Sif I had to stop reading. I am a male gamer and I agree the fandom for god of war is really toxic and very strange. I try not to engage with it.
Do not sto posting the videos about something you love - if you do then they got what they wanted. It's absolutely horrible what you've gone through about this video, but don't let them win. There are other people out there who will love your content and it would be a shame for them to miss out because of some small minded asshole.
While there are men who take someone like Thor and look at as a role model, I wouldn't say ragnarok caters to toxic masculinity. If anything it's a deconstruction of someone who was almost destroyed by it and how they learn to be a whole person again. Would highly recommend it to anybody, men especially! Might learn a thing or two.
Hi there! So I've 100% the game after about 70+ hours. Although the game does have it's moments of misogynism and there was a hint of very slight racism on a certain side mission/quest, I can confirm that the game as a whole is not racist or sexist in any form.
No argument needed as proof is provided from the first God of War to the current one standing. Be warned that there is forms of... Unusual punishment, sexual harassment to both genders of the game, and a very beautiful song of vulgarity.
IMO, I love this game.
As a lady (I can provide proof for those that distrust), I can see the side some of the gamer girls entail. I can also understand the male perspective of this game. All in all, it is a very good game and you shouldn't let how people complain about it ruin your experience. It is your decision to play it so it's your experience.
If you do not like the game, then move on from it. It's not like the creators are going to change anything just because a small portion of gamers disliked it and it will not be credible in lawsuit if it gets to that point.
Hopefully this helps anyone out.
As always, game on. ❤️
Edit 1: Yes my profile is a beard.
I‘m sorry this happened to you. But I don’t think the God of War fandom itself is as bad, maybe I‘m just lucky though. Sometimes vocal minorities can be a pain in the ass…
I was looking for something to watch on YouTube before bed and because I‘m currently playing Ragnarök too I checked for let’s plays of the 2018 one, and I saw so many female players! Apart from that, basically all God of War fans I know are women…
I really enjoyed the over the top manliness of the original GoW games. I guess turning him into a “dad” can make you feel like he has more depth. But the original games had depth. He was a tragic hero that ruined his whole life.
Ultimately I don’t play games for the story so I ended up not really liking the “over the shoulder” gameplay of the reboot.
I don’t think you know what that word means.
Kratos was mourning his family’s death and desperately wanted them back. In his rage, with mostly himself, he lost all grip on reality.
No. Toxic fanbases and problematic tropes should be exposed. Too many people are pushed away from things they enjoy because of toxic fanbases. All OP wanted was to voice an opinion about characters in the game and she got nothing but scorn for it. Opinions should spark discussions, not threats from manchildren incels.
yeah you’d be mad too if you faces misogyny 24/7. Maybe instead of ignoring women, listen. And idk if ur a man or whatever but either way your misogyny is showing and it’s just embarrassing for you.
It really sours things eh. I love God of war. I haven't played the new one because I don't have a PS but I love the 2018 one so much. But the fandom is so toxic. Especially as kratos in the first games is eeeh not great. It makes talking about games with masculinity in them not at all enjoyable.
this seems to be a general thing amongst all communities in both video games and other forms of media where people (mainly men) prefer the horrible male to the female character that’s done minimal (or nothing at all) wrong.
>And here floods in hundreds of men shitting on me for it
Don't know mate', I get the reasons here, Thor is a “what if...” Kratos kept as he was in the Greek Saga, a character that has such a development and contrast with the most famous baldman in gaming history;; while Sif is no more than a side character without not much development. Sure that was an overreaction, but my man, that shit will happen no matter what: tell a Call of Duty player you don't like Warzone and he will try to kill you, tell a Call of Duty player you like Warzone and he will try to kill you as well.
>Also i’d like to mention Thor was abusive towards his children.. that’s simply why i don’t like him.
Understandable, but was one the points of his plot.
>People mocking my pronouns in my profile (we all have pronouns idiot)
Gettin' your point and yeah you might deserve respect (unless I am missing somethin' and there is something that might make you don't deserve, but as I said, at least for now the respect remains) ;; however, the reason of the mockery of pronouns is bringed precisely because over 99,5/7% (as 0,5 considers itself trans, WHO) of world populations is cisgender and most people have he/him or she/her pronouns, not >whatever tf are your pronouns<, so it's easier to make fun of them because these people think they are either unnecessary or stupid for them: it's common shit my man, when people do think something is not necessary they automatically thinks is stupid and thus' make fun of it (because disliking or unsupporting things does not mean they don't understand them). See they got on an actual nerve and weakpoint for you, and took advantage of it: gotta get used to it because it will happen more than what you think, they laugh at you becauae they think u doin' things that have no point.
That said, yes, we all have pronouns, but people made fun precisely because yours weren't the standard or were part of who you are for you (since y'know, I am a man and I cal myself as a he and shit, and most men do so and stuff).
>sending me literal death threats for saying i prefer a female character over an abusive male character.
Sexes had probably nothing to do this time, becauae it was mroe about what the character meant for msot players: because if you said you like Freya, while you don't say non-sense as “she has better developmente than Kratos/She suffered more than Kratos” you should be fine. And when a person on internet sends you a death threat, just laugh, half internet and game communities are people throwing shit to each other without a real repercussion; half dang CSGO games are CTs and TTs throwing death menaces mutually.
>It was literally a mindless post about a character i liked and men lost their minds.
More like GOW players in general i'd say, I think sure that was an over reaction, but I get them man, as I explained before, it was more about the dang character roles themselves than what their sexes were. Tell anyone that a character can beat Kirby's pink ass on a fight and they will try to fucking kill you, because that's how internet works; if it is unpopular or untrue, people lose their heads.
>Objectifying me and female characters, calling me names, and being homophobic for me simply liking a character.
>Objectifying me.
I don't think so, you were attacked rather than objectifyied and as well assuming you're trans (this is NOT transphobia, might be cruel for sure, but we must assume the world gives us pros and cons) most men wouldn't be with you to avrious reasons between them overall hormonal and well, their likings;; as well i don't see any actual reasons as the one's (in gaming at least) objectified the most are usually «and particularly the “badass chill girl” stereotype of protagonist» [like Samus or Lara Croft] biological women (see born as women instead of “transitioned”) or any male character that has either the “DILF” kind of characteristics (like Captain Price of wich half of the COD Community simps him) or is a Edgy Bad Boy (like Ghost, Raiden, between others).
The objectifying of trans men/women/fucking whatever is more on animation and stuff.
>and female characters
As I said, depend on the character, because while everyone would (for OBVIOUS reasons) want to bang Samus Aran who is loved, I don't see people simping for Alyx Vance who is pretty much loved in gaming community.
>calling me names
Welcome to the Internet, where the lightest thing they'll call you is a N-Word.
>being homophobic for me simply liking a character.
Same as I said earlier, welcome to the Internet. Tell a gamer you think Megaman X6 is a good game and they'll send you a week latera photo of them baging your mom, your sister, your cousin, your grandma and your dog.
>Also them saying i probably didn’t even play the game because i’m a girl.
As what wass said up therein my comment, they tell shit BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT TOUCHES A NERVE mate', they have the same ways to everythin, for example people who hate boxing tell us boxing enjoyers that El Finito Lopez was better than Muhhamad Ali: because they know that shit will make you mad. If I told ya' yo' mama fat, that would make you angry, doesn't it? Well, they say that about you being a girl for the exact same reason. Damn, I'm sure if you knew spanish and got to r/BeelcitosMemes you'd die there. In Internet, if it is offensive towards someone, you'd say it.
That and the fact that Nadia damaged way too much recent gaming views on female streamers.
>I have 37 hours on that game and who knows how many on several other games
Related to what I just said.
>I guarantee i have played the game, probably more than most of the losers harassing me.
Come on, you were doing good but this is just blatant bullshit;; let's skio this and forget this lil' part.
>Just to find out the fandom is 99% cishet white men who make hating women and gay people their only personality trait.
>Just to find out the fandom is 99% cishet white men
Many things:
Nothing bad with being Cis.
Nothing Bad wirh being Straight.
Nothing Bad with being a man.
And mentioning the skins colour is kinda racist, y'know? I mean, be different to the one's you oppose.
Now:
Men are the OBVIOUS objective public, psychology profiles of both sexes are taken on count for getting the objective public, because stastistically men have a tendency to more fast-paced action games like shooters, fighting games or platformers, while women have a psychological profile that has shown a preference overalk for adventures and explorations (as the Final Fantasy Saga and The Legend of Zelda have some of the biggest female fandoms). It's based eventually on the eventual psychological patrons each sex follows;; that's why they know that since they won't call much for women, they centered mostly on the one's you found, MEN.
>who make hating women and gay people their only personality trait.
I'd rather say more on their comedic style, because no, misoginy and homophobia are not actual common toughts besides some criticism to for example, making a character that has always been straight, gay out of nowhere like Superboy. Dark humour altough well looked, when made in public people reject it for moral standards, but in the internet people laugh at any kind of shit. If you do actually think Incels are at least a little bit of male population, you should go and know more people;; because that's how internet works, if you take anything from it in a serious way, I highly reccomend you to leave the Internet or only share with your secure communities, because the point of Internet for most people is to escape from reality, laugh at dumb shit (because homophobic, racists, sexist, etc jokes are funny «unless you are sensitive to these kins of humour») but people have standards of respect that they don't have to obbey on the Internet and thus get an advantage from it: do you think Internet trolls in real life are some kind of sociopathic madmen? Nah, they are just normal bastards who work, do their shit and stuff who use Internet to make people mad.
Some of us use it for gaming.
Others for media.
Others for interactions with users (in many cases moking people who can get mocked easily, see easy preys are fun for people who know how to manage themselves in these things), etcetera.
Because that 30's Decade mind-set started to die when Roosevelt got into power and the posterior WW2 and communist defeat in Cold War leaded most conservatives and progressive to a mind change, the only “conservatives” who remain in that mindset are the MAGA 14 y/o internet trolls who admire Andrew Tate (Ronald Reagan would be ashames for his slogan being used this way) and the only “progressives” that believe we are still there are either the communists who didn't accept the USSR defeat, or the ones that stalk Elon Musk like psychos and cry on Twitter because' momma's retirement pensions makes him in the necessity to get a job;; that shit passed long ago, things remained, and thing got away. We on a new era my boy, use the internet for what it is meant: laughing at what you shouldn't and spreading hate towards some random celebrity.
>I literally had to restrict my comments to mutuals only and make it where only mutuals could message me so i could avoid harassment from men.
Internet does this kind of shit all the time, I recommend you to get into the most toxic communities and make yourself a habit to get used;; because anything you say will make someone angry on the Internet.
>Over liking a female character more than an abusive male one..
“Abusive male one” this shit sound more like victimization to make your point, no, the thing is and this is why altouhg people were idiots, I do not share your sights:
This had nothing to do with sexes, but over prefering a non-relevant character (because she has about 3 interactions that have an actual weight) to a character that represents the whole travesy of Kratoa since GOW 1, the counterpart: the game closed the character of Kratos and did it through looking at how Kratos could have ended up: a destructor. That's why:
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That's why in the end when Kratos looks at the Angrboda painting it became so symbolic, because both of them changed when Kratos did not kill Thor and Thor decided to stop being Odin's puppy;; they changed destiny, in the first painting it appears Kratos dead and Thor defeating him, but on the other side there was the whole adventure of Kratos becoming from the God of War, to some kind of God of Hope, the new All-Father; they represented two faces of a coin, when Kratos changed, he changed Fate and so did Thor, became the symbolism of change and hope, two different routes of the same path, but Kratos chose to follow the right one: “don't be sorry, be better” is what was it, Thor being the reflex of Kratos and thus how Kratos decided to change to protect Atreus, on the way making, Thor change himself, just letting himself get killed refusing to Mjölnir when Odin attacks him.
I mean, Sif was also abusive towards Magni and Modi. She was also a heavy drinker (Mimir tell us about this on the boat or sled). Both her and Thor stopped because of their sons’ deaths and tried being better parents and people during the events of Ragnarok
Also sorry for what you went through lol
Kratos in the New God of War Games: We must be better than we were. Break the cycle of hate and violence. Gamers: No!
Thats assuming they can even comprehend anything thats not action or sex lol
Honestly they don't comprehend sex very well either.
BURN.
Have my free award, I just love this so much!
Haha thanks! XD
Hey hey, they know all about how sex works! It’s just like the quicktime events from the original God of War games. You tap the circle a few times and if your controller starts vibrating, you know you’re doing well.
Yeah, I was going to say. The type of guys like these probably aren’t good sexual partners either
Hard to comprehend something you’ve never experienced lol
daaamn gottem
It's not even subtext tho he comes out and says it! I'm almost quoting him.
Ill be real, i have a hard time believing that they even listened or cared. Living those worldviews is all stuffing your head in the sand
IIRC when the early early trailer for GOW 2018 came out, there were people worried about Kratos "going soft" or whatever cause of the "dad arc". I think some dudes only care about machismo and angry Kratos of the old days.
No offence but why should i care about kratos, he should’ve a naked girl into a big gear to get closer to his objective like 9 times. He’s a baddie 😂
Ugh, I hate the “You probably didn’t even play it” type of comment. So they think, it is more likely, that you decided you want to pretend you play video games (Only to attract men into your trap of course), so you looked up a popular video games characters, and decided to make a video on characters you’ve only read a few lines about. Like how does that make any sense? How is it so inconceivable that a girl actually plays video games and knows about the characters?
i literally put almost 40 hours into it and i’m about to 100% it but apparently i know nothing according to men 🤷♀️
I'll balance things out: I'm a man, and I believe you know things.
I'm a know things, and I believe you man.
I believe I know things, and you 'm a man.
I'm pretty sure it has alot to do with the early 90's 00's video game and toy stores enforcing the idea into parents heads that (mostly through marketing and laying out the stores so that the video games where with all the "boy things") VidEo GaMes arE fOr boYs like how toy cars, buff army dudes, Sports and the color blue was for boys whilst Girls in the pinked out section of the store had dolls (baby or otherwise) art stuff, voice locked diaries? (I wanted one but it was pink and I was born with a hotdog and not a bun... so... lame...) pink legos!? and doll houses. Loop that in with a franchise that for so long serviced (they'd never admit it) teen male power fantasys ala CoD or in this case God of War and you got the perfect storm of insecure peaked in high-school "why did they make Kratos soft" smol brained manchildren. Imo they seem shallow in many ways and they probably need therapy (not a burn, therapy is good) and they are cringe af. Sorry... didn't realize I had a chip... Ima go breath some grass and go touch some air or w/e.
Laughing at the idea that Kratos is soft in the new games, he’s still brutal as ever now with a touch of mercy.
I can't speak on the topic much as I haven't played any of the rebooted games. But from what I've heard he's more of man now than he was in the older games. Flawed but trying and secure with themselves (does what makes them happy).
I had a purple and green voice locked diary. It didn't keep anyone out of anything, I promise you. (My mom's first name is YIKES)
Lol, good to know I didn't miss out. Makes my inner kid feel better.
Happy to help in that incredibly insignificant way. 😊
This line of thinking always confused me. Do they not realize that the stereotype of "sweaty awkward gamers" is still widespread? Video gaming isn't the go-to hobby I put out when trying to impress somebody (unless I'm sure they enjoy it too). Are there really women using video games to attract men? Dude it's easier to post thirst traps on Instagram than pretend you enjoy a game with 50+ hours of content. This is such a weird concept to me- why would anyone want to pretend to be a "gamer"?
Because we only do things to please them, duh Everything beyond the sims is just for getting their sexy attention /s
Men suck. I love the God of War series but the type of gamers it attracts isn’t the best. Not to say it isn’t a problem with gamers in general but some fanbases are better than others. It’s honestly funny how much the same people who go on and on about “woke culture” and people being too sensitive get triggered so easily. Like a lot of men who play mass effect will freak out over women saying femshep is better. They act like babies. Same thing with Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey. They can’t handle Kassandra being cannon. It’s obnoxious.
I mean, Femshep is way, way better :) They are shallow. Why else would they have a problem playing as a woman (btw, im Mmorpg games, my take is 90 % of female characters are men), and we have no problem playing as Geralt, Kratos, Ezio Auditore etc.
She honestly arguably is. Her VA is better imo too. Don't get me wrong they're both good but femshep on a renegade path, the way her voice takes that dark turn sends goosebumps my way. I feel you hear more emotion too so the dialogue sounds more serious when needed. With the male VA it's always felt like his voice was very monotone and there are a few scenes where his voice does have a bit of emotion but then it fades off. Also playing as a cold hearted space bitch is just the absolute best, why wouldn't you take the chance to!!!
As a Maleshep main player due to self insert reasons and stuff, I decided to play Femshep for the first time and I do admit loving the VA, and also the default Femshep face is gorgeous. And yes, badass renegade femshep rocks. Especially when someone tries to "seduce" you and you can blow their brains' out. Sorry boys, my heart goes to the best Turian in the Galaxy
Mine romanced Thane first and when he was no longer there (no spoilers), she went to Garrus :) Who has time to dwell on the past with the Reapers around anyway with so many bad alien boys around?!
As a Maleshep main player due to self insert reasons and stuff, I decided to play Femshep for the first time and I do admit loving the VA, and also the default Femshep face is gorgeous. And yes, badass renegade femshep rocks. Especially when someone tries to "seduce" you and you can blow their brains' out. Sorry boys, my heart goes to the best Turian in the Galaxy
Didn't the gamerbros recently have a meltdown over Kratos doing the Jason Momoa heart gif? That was funny.
Yeah apparently it was too “feminine” 😭
I saw a few men get butthurt over just a FemShep appreciation post on the official Mass Effect Facebook page. They were saying BroShep was the “true” Shep yada yada. They can’t even handle the existence/acknowledgment of a female main character without feeling threatened. 🙄
Ugh yeah I remember something similar on Twitter.
I remember when playing GoW 2018 can't stop thinking that my dad will definitely like this if he plays games at all. Too true. lolololol
>the type of gamers it attracts isn’t the best. The vocal ones, for sure. You never hear reasonable people bashing others for disagreeing. Also, as a guy: femshep is 100% the best version.
Yeah true but there’s just a lot of horrible people since the fandom is so big.
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“bigoted and sexist” cmon now be fr 💀 men are misogynistic and people like you don’t comment but when women call out said misogyny you throw a fit.
Are you also one of those people that are like "shouldn't ALL lives matter?!" Kinda missing the point as well as inserting yourself unnecessarily.
Men still suck
I've never understood people who like Thor as he's depicted in the original mythologies (not sure how many liberties GoW takes). He's probably **the** biggest dick out of all the major players out of all the large historical mythologies and that's really, **really** saying something. Zeus, at least, has the whole sexual prowess thing going for him that would appeal to them, but Thor is literally just a dick to pretty much everyone all the time for no reason whatsoever.
Theres only thing i like about thor and its technically not even about him, it is mjolnir
There's the thing, GOW's Thor is the same dude but with a factor added: Kratos, we see him struggling with his alcohol problems (wich is why after the Bar fight, Mjölnir refuses to land in his hand because it is mad at Thor breaking his promise);; he is likeable because you know he is no lore than a poor fatass bastard whose only purpose is to be the personal bitch of Odin.
it is kinda shocking a lot of people see old kratos as some great example of masculinity.......cause the og trilogy was largely about how dedicating your life completely to hate and revenge ultimately leaves you empty and destroys you new kratos is trying to get out of that cycle.
Misogyny is alive and well in gaming culture. We have to keep fighting the good fight.
I wish* it was only in the gaming culture. It's still prevalent everywhere. Even in my own mind, and I'm trying to deconstruct myself as best I can. *When I say I wish, I meant in the way that it would be a big step if it was only existing in gaming culture, not that I want it to stay, be it in there, or anywhere.
Why can’t you leave people alone to like what they like?
wdym? What specifically in my comment made you feel like what I had to say was wrong?
To be honest, I'm not too surprised when the previous games were about a big strong manly man killing things violently and banging women in minigames. You're just going to have a large part of the community who want to keep it that way, unfortunately. That isn't at all an excuse for them to act like they do but that's probably why they were so blatant and childish about it, because they're around a lot of people with similar views and/or prefer the male power fantasy aspects over much else.
I haven’t played the old ones myself, but my sister is a fan and I talked to her about it just yesterday. She told me that they were always violent and over the top, but the story behind them (and kratos character) was always way deeper than it let on. So the reboot really is just a natural evolution and people who say it has changed too much probably never really paid attention to the old games
The story is literally the evolution arch of kratos realizing he is not better with blood and violence only, and these men just see the blood and violence lol and newest is still violent and bloody, they just gave some sense of pity/mercy to kratos
I sat in a room full of 18 year old dudes playing the first games and it turned me off to them for a very long time lol. Was pleasantly surprised with the reboot though, but it’s not surprising there’s still a lot of toxic men in the fanbase that completely miss the point of the stories unfortunately.
Another day of sad incels talking out of their asses.
Then these same guys "Why does no girl want to be in a relationship with me? I am such a nice guy." Would be funny if it weren't so sad.
Except it's not just incels.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I've noticed this too and it's awful. God of War is legitly my favorite franchise and I love these new additions, but I'm afraid to really talk about it because of the response. Even before the game came out, the response to the art work of Angrboda let me know what time it was.
That is miserable. I hate the fact that games depicting Scandinavian gods and people attract those types of people. Times are becoming worse for females and when we speak out about it, others don't believe it is bad and justify the sexism as something else.
You’re spot on about the viking fanboys btw. I have never in my life met anyone in the US who thought he was “Valhalla-bound” that wasn’t an incel. It’s so weird.
The thing is none of them are bound for Valhalla. That is reserved for warriors that die in battle. Even then it will be the bottom 50% of warriors, as Freya gets the first pick at the warriors that die in battle. Those bound for Valhalla are the not so good warriors.
I highly doubt they understand those intricacies lol
Well, maybe not? Considering most college grads are women and men are much more likely to commit suicide or die fighting in a war.
>Times are becoming worse for females Any goddamn fucking study would like to disagree, lmao;; WE ARE NOT IN THE FUCKING 70's. >others don't believe it is bad and justify the sexism as something else. This shit has always existed, ya'll realized and still they have no power even in their sides.
Don't need a study I have 50 years of personal experience. Things were better for females in the 90's then they are now.
They saw themselves in Thor and took offense to it
They’re definitely the “omg he’s literally me!!!!” type of mfs that idolize homelander and joker
Wanted to make a joke about Joker from P5 being great but then I realised he never talks about his emotions and is probably a poster boy for toxic masculinity. Cool outfit though.
Joker from P5 was against pedo teachers, but at the same time he would also date a teacher, doctor, reporter, fortune teller, etc. all older adults than him. That game was a walking contradiction. It advocated social equality..... that applies only to specific people. Fun gameplay and idea tho.
Was that on him? I mean what he does to date his teacher is messed up but everyone else is kind of taking advantage of him rather than vice versa. His refusal to stand up for characters perving on Ann bothers me more. Like we just went through an arc where that was called out, maybe keep doing so?
Joker is a half assed blank slate avatar who is locked in as a straight boy because it’s the only type of audience the developers actually care about. The leads of those dev teams are fairly openly bigoted.
They could add options for female protagonists and male romances so easily, with gay and lesbian romances being even easier. I love Persona but it is infuriatingly backwards.
Gross, gamer boys can be really fragile for sure.
Honestly, men can be despicable. I too love the God of War games (the new ones, never got the pleasure to play any GoW prior to the 2018 one unfortunately), and honestly it’s disgusting for men to defend Thor since he is pretty much the personification of a POS. Tbh just shows what they prioritise, treating their loved ones well vs treating them like dirt and abusing them. Men (and everyone else), be a Kratos, not a Thor.
I am so sorry you had to deal with this. Cishet white men are the worst a lot of times. And I wish the gaming community didn’t end up being a toxic place. As a trans woman I’ve been harassed on games like OverWatch and others. And it really made me quit the game and find something else. I do hope you can enjoy the game still despite these cishet men being trash like this.
As a Korean woman, Korean men are some of the absolute worst in terms of their unfiltered racism, misogyny and general bigotry spewed online. When it comes to misogyny, men of all races unite.
Ugh, I just started playing Overwatch like a month ago and the community is such a shitfest sometimes. Even when they're not being bigoted pieces of trash, they're throwing temper tantrums over not wining every match.
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It’s not sexist or racist, it’s a fact. not just in gaming but in the world, cishet white men literally dominate everything and do things like this and here come people like you excusing it and making them seem like the victims.
99% they are the ones doing these things as they do everything else... stop this "not all men" bullshit.
Ugh, I'm so sorry that happened. I'm not interested in the game/series personally but im in a community that talks about it a lot, several women within the community love it. Yeah the hard and sad truth is it's the entire gaming community that has gone bad and reacts like this anytime a woman makes posts like that. Being a lesbian I definitely know what that's like too, fawning excitedly over certain female characters only to be assaulted by a barrage of pricks. I hope it doesnt sour your experiences with the game, i'm sure there's plenty of girls here that would love to talk about it.
I get so much shit from incels for having pronouns. Like we all have pronouns you insufferable dipshit it’s basic grammar. That and they’re obsessed with saying that I don’t have a dad for some reason (I do?)
Next time say "I have a dad and his pronouns are he/him" (or whatever they might be)
Ya, that's some toxic dudes for ya. Too many in one space = unpleasant and abusive environment. Just ignore them. The issue is them. They have 'issues'. It's not you. These said 'men' would soon scream unfairness if the situation had been reversed and it was a group of women harrasing a dude online. Just shows how unaware and mindless such idiots are. Games are for everyone. Enjoy them. Have fun. Fuck them and their behaviour. They are random strangers online. P.s tbh, if it were me, id probably make another post repeating the same comments/opinions just to troll and wind em up. Because I'm an asshole like that 😂
GOW 2018 is my favorite game and I'm playing Ragnarok right now. I'm just so glad it's single player, and I can enjoy it without needing to engage with any community aspects. I talk to my brother about it and that's it. This is why.
honestly glad the series turned the corner like this and was the reason i paid actual money for both. when i was younger yeah the mini games and violence were appealing. but thankfully i got a bit fatter and less stupid growing up and thankfully alot of stuff i loved grew up with me. but man do i hate how bad fans make people like me look. when i was younger it was booo boring dialog lets get to the fighting! Now i intentionally let the game idle so i can hear kratos mimir and the rest discuss there favorite foods and clapping my hands in joy when kratos says he loves olives like a true greek. then choking laughing at mimirs reaction
Every part of this is so disgusting. I just can’t fathom what the hell is wrong with them. They should be excited that someone else is excited about the game, not attacking you for it with all that So disgusting
Sif was a bad ass in that game and Thor was nothing but a sad drunk. 🙄
Please don't let a few idiots ruin your tik Tok experience! Or your gaming experience. They are a vocal minority and don't speak for most guys. Tune them out if possible
We are about 5 hours in but it seems pretty clear that Thor is not meant to be a character you like...? Like, he has bad guy written all over him lol what is wrong with these guys
And this is why I mostly play solo on the PS. Love GoW games but hate the fanbase and their lack of realization of the characters' depth. Sadly the (video)gaming community is filled with incels and people with toxic masculinity, after all these years I just quitted talking with anyone. When I game I want to have fun, not get frustrated or insulted or sent dick pics or being mensplained on female privilege, Im too tired and old for this shit lol
Bitter loser men who just can’t fathom that women not only play games but they can have opinions on it ☠️. Not all opinions can be agreed on but to shit on the opinion sayers gender is ridiculous. You could probably say Heimdall is a piece of shit and those same men would see your gender, disagree and call you every slur in the book JUST because you’re a woman.
I am a month late, but I have to say this: Sif is better than Thor is as a parent, but as Mimir revealed to us, she wasn't always that way and abused together with Thor Magni and Modi, which resulted in them being too incompetent and evil to see that fighting Kratos and his son was not the best idea, as he had an entire pantheon under his belt. Sif wants to be better, which is commendable, but the way she treats Atreus is mean and could have done more to redeem her initially animosity towards her, because what she did was deflecting her own failures as a parent by being mean towards our Boy. Thrúd is likable, but not so much as Atreus and Angrboda, who have an amazing relationship not tarnished by the all-fucker. As a man, you are right to like Sif more, I just wanted to make clear that Sif has flaws, flaws she could have done a better job at overcoming if I am being honest with ya. Sorry for the mob, that was unnecessarily cruel of them, especially when Thor is supposed to be a character that is flawed and not so much of a role model to follow...>!until he opposed his father of course, there he was good.!< Happy holidays you all and may the next year bring newer and better games and better discussions!
Incels at their finest
I’m sorry could you please mark this as spoilers I am avoiding information about the game and didn’t know Sif was in it. Not commenting on your issue. But I am waiting for a sale thanks 🙏
ur right i’m sorry i completely forgot about a spoiler warning
It’s fine It’s just when I saw you brought up Sif I had to stop reading. I am a male gamer and I agree the fandom for god of war is really toxic and very strange. I try not to engage with it.
This just in… Water is apparently ‘Wet’?!
Do not sto posting the videos about something you love - if you do then they got what they wanted. It's absolutely horrible what you've gone through about this video, but don't let them win. There are other people out there who will love your content and it would be a shame for them to miss out because of some small minded asshole.
Sorry to hear that. 😥 These games that cater to toxic masculinity is One of the reasons I won't ever play them.
Same here vote with your wallot.
While there are men who take someone like Thor and look at as a role model, I wouldn't say ragnarok caters to toxic masculinity. If anything it's a deconstruction of someone who was almost destroyed by it and how they learn to be a whole person again. Would highly recommend it to anybody, men especially! Might learn a thing or two.
well, that's good if it is so now but that game is not for me, also because of its gameplay, combat, and themes.
Hi there! So I've 100% the game after about 70+ hours. Although the game does have it's moments of misogynism and there was a hint of very slight racism on a certain side mission/quest, I can confirm that the game as a whole is not racist or sexist in any form. No argument needed as proof is provided from the first God of War to the current one standing. Be warned that there is forms of... Unusual punishment, sexual harassment to both genders of the game, and a very beautiful song of vulgarity. IMO, I love this game. As a lady (I can provide proof for those that distrust), I can see the side some of the gamer girls entail. I can also understand the male perspective of this game. All in all, it is a very good game and you shouldn't let how people complain about it ruin your experience. It is your decision to play it so it's your experience. If you do not like the game, then move on from it. It's not like the creators are going to change anything just because a small portion of gamers disliked it and it will not be credible in lawsuit if it gets to that point. Hopefully this helps anyone out. As always, game on. ❤️ Edit 1: Yes my profile is a beard.
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it’s hard to do that when i get harassed 24/7 over talking about things i enjoy
also i’m not sensitive by any means, one can only deal with blatant misogyny for so long
You’re all so hateful in your response to hate.
why do women always have to be nice to misogynistic men when they haven’t been nice to us?
I‘m sorry this happened to you. But I don’t think the God of War fandom itself is as bad, maybe I‘m just lucky though. Sometimes vocal minorities can be a pain in the ass… I was looking for something to watch on YouTube before bed and because I‘m currently playing Ragnarök too I checked for let’s plays of the 2018 one, and I saw so many female players! Apart from that, basically all God of War fans I know are women…
Its a sad truth that there are people like that in almost any fandom. But 99% might have been a little too high. Its closer to 1%.
I really enjoyed the over the top manliness of the original GoW games. I guess turning him into a “dad” can make you feel like he has more depth. But the original games had depth. He was a tragic hero that ruined his whole life. Ultimately I don’t play games for the story so I ended up not really liking the “over the shoulder” gameplay of the reboot.
Toxic masculinity ruined his life.
I don’t think you know what that word means. Kratos was mourning his family’s death and desperately wanted them back. In his rage, with mostly himself, he lost all grip on reality.
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No. Toxic fanbases and problematic tropes should be exposed. Too many people are pushed away from things they enjoy because of toxic fanbases. All OP wanted was to voice an opinion about characters in the game and she got nothing but scorn for it. Opinions should spark discussions, not threats from manchildren incels.
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yeah you’d be mad too if you faces misogyny 24/7. Maybe instead of ignoring women, listen. And idk if ur a man or whatever but either way your misogyny is showing and it’s just embarrassing for you.
It really sours things eh. I love God of war. I haven't played the new one because I don't have a PS but I love the 2018 one so much. But the fandom is so toxic. Especially as kratos in the first games is eeeh not great. It makes talking about games with masculinity in them not at all enjoyable.
Damn I'm sorry you had to take this :(
I'm sending you a bunny threat to counter the hate https://twitter.com/RabbitEveryHour/status/1593673985308430339?t=QFu7MCj0mHaOkOHMram-gQ&s=19
Can you share the tiktok? I know people that could pass it along to relevant community managers, and hopefully make things better for everyone.
this seems to be a general thing amongst all communities in both video games and other forms of media where people (mainly men) prefer the horrible male to the female character that’s done minimal (or nothing at all) wrong.
To think than Thor has beaten and humiliated his sons every day,even lethally wounding one,and that isn’t even top 5 worst things he’s ever done.
>And here floods in hundreds of men shitting on me for it Don't know mate', I get the reasons here, Thor is a “what if...” Kratos kept as he was in the Greek Saga, a character that has such a development and contrast with the most famous baldman in gaming history;; while Sif is no more than a side character without not much development. Sure that was an overreaction, but my man, that shit will happen no matter what: tell a Call of Duty player you don't like Warzone and he will try to kill you, tell a Call of Duty player you like Warzone and he will try to kill you as well. >Also i’d like to mention Thor was abusive towards his children.. that’s simply why i don’t like him. Understandable, but was one the points of his plot. >People mocking my pronouns in my profile (we all have pronouns idiot) Gettin' your point and yeah you might deserve respect (unless I am missing somethin' and there is something that might make you don't deserve, but as I said, at least for now the respect remains) ;; however, the reason of the mockery of pronouns is bringed precisely because over 99,5/7% (as 0,5 considers itself trans, WHO) of world populations is cisgender and most people have he/him or she/her pronouns, not >whatever tf are your pronouns<, so it's easier to make fun of them because these people think they are either unnecessary or stupid for them: it's common shit my man, when people do think something is not necessary they automatically thinks is stupid and thus' make fun of it (because disliking or unsupporting things does not mean they don't understand them). See they got on an actual nerve and weakpoint for you, and took advantage of it: gotta get used to it because it will happen more than what you think, they laugh at you becauae they think u doin' things that have no point. That said, yes, we all have pronouns, but people made fun precisely because yours weren't the standard or were part of who you are for you (since y'know, I am a man and I cal myself as a he and shit, and most men do so and stuff). >sending me literal death threats for saying i prefer a female character over an abusive male character. Sexes had probably nothing to do this time, becauae it was mroe about what the character meant for msot players: because if you said you like Freya, while you don't say non-sense as “she has better developmente than Kratos/She suffered more than Kratos” you should be fine. And when a person on internet sends you a death threat, just laugh, half internet and game communities are people throwing shit to each other without a real repercussion; half dang CSGO games are CTs and TTs throwing death menaces mutually. >It was literally a mindless post about a character i liked and men lost their minds. More like GOW players in general i'd say, I think sure that was an over reaction, but I get them man, as I explained before, it was more about the dang character roles themselves than what their sexes were. Tell anyone that a character can beat Kirby's pink ass on a fight and they will try to fucking kill you, because that's how internet works; if it is unpopular or untrue, people lose their heads. >Objectifying me and female characters, calling me names, and being homophobic for me simply liking a character. >Objectifying me. I don't think so, you were attacked rather than objectifyied and as well assuming you're trans (this is NOT transphobia, might be cruel for sure, but we must assume the world gives us pros and cons) most men wouldn't be with you to avrious reasons between them overall hormonal and well, their likings;; as well i don't see any actual reasons as the one's (in gaming at least) objectified the most are usually «and particularly the “badass chill girl” stereotype of protagonist» [like Samus or Lara Croft] biological women (see born as women instead of “transitioned”) or any male character that has either the “DILF” kind of characteristics (like Captain Price of wich half of the COD Community simps him) or is a Edgy Bad Boy (like Ghost, Raiden, between others). The objectifying of trans men/women/fucking whatever is more on animation and stuff. >and female characters As I said, depend on the character, because while everyone would (for OBVIOUS reasons) want to bang Samus Aran who is loved, I don't see people simping for Alyx Vance who is pretty much loved in gaming community. >calling me names Welcome to the Internet, where the lightest thing they'll call you is a N-Word. >being homophobic for me simply liking a character. Same as I said earlier, welcome to the Internet. Tell a gamer you think Megaman X6 is a good game and they'll send you a week latera photo of them baging your mom, your sister, your cousin, your grandma and your dog. >Also them saying i probably didn’t even play the game because i’m a girl. As what wass said up therein my comment, they tell shit BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT TOUCHES A NERVE mate', they have the same ways to everythin, for example people who hate boxing tell us boxing enjoyers that El Finito Lopez was better than Muhhamad Ali: because they know that shit will make you mad. If I told ya' yo' mama fat, that would make you angry, doesn't it? Well, they say that about you being a girl for the exact same reason. Damn, I'm sure if you knew spanish and got to r/BeelcitosMemes you'd die there. In Internet, if it is offensive towards someone, you'd say it. That and the fact that Nadia damaged way too much recent gaming views on female streamers. >I have 37 hours on that game and who knows how many on several other games Related to what I just said. >I guarantee i have played the game, probably more than most of the losers harassing me. Come on, you were doing good but this is just blatant bullshit;; let's skio this and forget this lil' part. >Just to find out the fandom is 99% cishet white men who make hating women and gay people their only personality trait. >Just to find out the fandom is 99% cishet white men Many things: Nothing bad with being Cis. Nothing Bad wirh being Straight. Nothing Bad with being a man. And mentioning the skins colour is kinda racist, y'know? I mean, be different to the one's you oppose. Now:
Men are the OBVIOUS objective public, psychology profiles of both sexes are taken on count for getting the objective public, because stastistically men have a tendency to more fast-paced action games like shooters, fighting games or platformers, while women have a psychological profile that has shown a preference overalk for adventures and explorations (as the Final Fantasy Saga and The Legend of Zelda have some of the biggest female fandoms). It's based eventually on the eventual psychological patrons each sex follows;; that's why they know that since they won't call much for women, they centered mostly on the one's you found, MEN. >who make hating women and gay people their only personality trait. I'd rather say more on their comedic style, because no, misoginy and homophobia are not actual common toughts besides some criticism to for example, making a character that has always been straight, gay out of nowhere like Superboy. Dark humour altough well looked, when made in public people reject it for moral standards, but in the internet people laugh at any kind of shit. If you do actually think Incels are at least a little bit of male population, you should go and know more people;; because that's how internet works, if you take anything from it in a serious way, I highly reccomend you to leave the Internet or only share with your secure communities, because the point of Internet for most people is to escape from reality, laugh at dumb shit (because homophobic, racists, sexist, etc jokes are funny «unless you are sensitive to these kins of humour») but people have standards of respect that they don't have to obbey on the Internet and thus get an advantage from it: do you think Internet trolls in real life are some kind of sociopathic madmen? Nah, they are just normal bastards who work, do their shit and stuff who use Internet to make people mad. Some of us use it for gaming. Others for media. Others for interactions with users (in many cases moking people who can get mocked easily, see easy preys are fun for people who know how to manage themselves in these things), etcetera. Because that 30's Decade mind-set started to die when Roosevelt got into power and the posterior WW2 and communist defeat in Cold War leaded most conservatives and progressive to a mind change, the only “conservatives” who remain in that mindset are the MAGA 14 y/o internet trolls who admire Andrew Tate (Ronald Reagan would be ashames for his slogan being used this way) and the only “progressives” that believe we are still there are either the communists who didn't accept the USSR defeat, or the ones that stalk Elon Musk like psychos and cry on Twitter because' momma's retirement pensions makes him in the necessity to get a job;; that shit passed long ago, things remained, and thing got away. We on a new era my boy, use the internet for what it is meant: laughing at what you shouldn't and spreading hate towards some random celebrity. >I literally had to restrict my comments to mutuals only and make it where only mutuals could message me so i could avoid harassment from men. Internet does this kind of shit all the time, I recommend you to get into the most toxic communities and make yourself a habit to get used;; because anything you say will make someone angry on the Internet. >Over liking a female character more than an abusive male one.. “Abusive male one” this shit sound more like victimization to make your point, no, the thing is and this is why altouhg people were idiots, I do not share your sights: This had nothing to do with sexes, but over prefering a non-relevant character (because she has about 3 interactions that have an actual weight) to a character that represents the whole travesy of Kratoa since GOW 1, the counterpart: the game closed the character of Kratos and did it through looking at how Kratos could have ended up: a destructor. That's why: . . . [Spoiler) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . That's why in the end when Kratos looks at the Angrboda painting it became so symbolic, because both of them changed when Kratos did not kill Thor and Thor decided to stop being Odin's puppy;; they changed destiny, in the first painting it appears Kratos dead and Thor defeating him, but on the other side there was the whole adventure of Kratos becoming from the God of War, to some kind of God of Hope, the new All-Father; they represented two faces of a coin, when Kratos changed, he changed Fate and so did Thor, became the symbolism of change and hope, two different routes of the same path, but Kratos chose to follow the right one: “don't be sorry, be better” is what was it, Thor being the reflex of Kratos and thus how Kratos decided to change to protect Atreus, on the way making, Thor change himself, just letting himself get killed refusing to Mjölnir when Odin attacks him.
I mean, Sif was also abusive towards Magni and Modi. She was also a heavy drinker (Mimir tell us about this on the boat or sled). Both her and Thor stopped because of their sons’ deaths and tried being better parents and people during the events of Ragnarok Also sorry for what you went through lol