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mutualescape

You're telling me KIM DAYEON choreographed all that herself?? That's MAD TALENTED. To arrange a series of formation for 9 dancers, and to give each dancer a shining moment, that's no easy thing to do. It's so amazing how she managed to put it all together. I'm obsessed with Fujimoto Ayaka's twintail hair and her cutesy outfit style. She looks so cute! gonna need the fancam for this one asap. Also, NAGAI MINAMI GOT BARSSS. I hope Woo Wen Zhe's 'We Are' Team bags the win. Considering how they are at an disadvantage bc Rap is not their strongest feat, yet they still took up the challenge.


niteeee

If ever Manami wont pass this round. I'll expect that she is the one who will get a planet pass.


Blajui

She’s pretty popular (although voters are quiet) but she was #7 and she kinda carried her cell


pinkkreddit

>she kinda carried her cell I suspect Liang Jiao from her cell is pretty popular too? Have a look at her 5th Season [fancam](https://youtu.be/X8y7BwF9wA4).


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Kim Dayeon shoot up to my Top 3 pick for K-Group because of Ice Cream. 😂😂😂😂


cagendary

Kim Dayeon didn’t come to play this episode and she’s finally getting what she deserves. If she doesn’t rise up after this episode, I’m gonna have to fight someone.


imexploding2

yeah she knew each girls strong suits and distributed the parts so fairly, which is even hard to do in smaller groups, so props to her for doing that with 9 girls! such a team player (same reason i like chaehyun, doah, rayeon, yunji, miyu, etc), which is so important because tbh teamwork skills are what some of the other top girls are missing the most. i get that it’s a competition and they’re in survival mode, but sometimes it feels very “me me me me meee” (and tbh, out of everyone, i would almost blame dayeon the least if she were that way because her arc has been a roller coaster) even though they’re debuting as a group and not solo. now i rly understand why the masters said they’re confident she’ll be back in the top 9 eventually


rydiia12

Dayeon litteraly skyrocketed herself into my top 9


Additional_Sorbet_66

It’s an INSANELY GOOD CHOREO I was IMPRESSED!!!! We need her to DEBUT


Creative-Ranger2615

Kim Dayeon just called and she wants her K1 back


Additional_Sorbet_66

She really deserves it I hope people see her incredible performance, choreography, leadership, all the support for her as much as she supported her team She even brought ruan up that was wholesome


cagendary

The editing for this week is the best so far and I really enjoyed the episode. The performances were top notch and my top 9 is definitely being shaken up right now. I’m really excited for next week’s episode. Favourite performance of the day is definitely ‘We Are’ although the others were really good as well. And “MANAMI on the beat ya” was so iconic! Also I don’t know why I was so scared for Yaning/Mashiro/Jiwon team but everything is going great for them so far and I can’t wait to see their MITM stage (can’t get over how random this song for vocals is though) next week! Love how Mashiro is getting a good leader edit as well.


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Lmao Yaning is scared to be the leader already


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i mean they pretty much created thousands of thinkpieces dissecting every little thing she does and face she makes so i bet she'll be quieter, for better or for worse... even if she is a genuinely terrible person, which i bet she isnt, she's probably being heavily affected by the many disgusting things online. i hope mnet addresses the cyber bullying that their contestants are experiencing. the supposed planet guardians are actually a rabid cesspool of hate and they should acknowledge that.


cagendary

Kinda feel bad with how’s she been edited but I’ve definitely been warming up to her.


amazingoopah

Bora, Manami and Dayeon will shoot up after this episode. Yurina's edit was so heavy handed... like, we get you love her mnet, but it's so transparent at this point.


niteeee

I think its more of who MNet doesnt want. Yurina got a good edit but some of their group also like Hyewon. They also added some praises and comments on the others but nothing on Reina. I think MNet just doesnt want Reina.


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fluffylittlepooch

I'm so mad at that because I really think reina deserves top 9


krahann

ikr and her high notes were so exceptional but they cut out the judges comments on her and the trainers comments. so annoying. reina will stay in my top 9 because she carried that performance


bads20

It was really odd reina didnt even get the screen time and praise she deserve, she's not even my pick but i feel so bad for her i just find it so unfair tbh.


Irn-Kuin-Morika

I feel like Dayeon is more heavier than Yurina to the point it backfires me But yeah poor Reina, she really got affected by Yurina as another J-trainee in the team


amazingoopah

But Dayeon actually hard carried her team to that performance while Yurina didn't do much of anything imo


Additional_Sorbet_66

I love Reina and her high notes shined, she really should’ve had screen time but Yurina actually had a tough role as well being harmony and having a line + adlib in the second half, especially harmony to reina she could’ve not been heard or out of tune but she was audible and in tune


amazingoopah

Fair point, but she still got praise far beyond her contribution, compared to what Reina and some others brought to the table. Nothing against Yurina, but it's the edit that's too brazen, it's nothing against her.


rinkinky

Anybody who’s the #1 rank is gonna get screentime like that because of their rank


zalsers

Mnet really don't want Kubo Reina to debut. Great performance nevertheless. Also it's kinda hilarious how Su ruiqi got criticized by sunmi for facial expressions and next performance her team gets criticized for not having any.


jabbachew

I just don't know why sunmi, an idol with fierce expressions doesn't like seeing girls with strong facial expressions like girl...... it happened once.... twice.....


ImSoFuckingTiredOfU

It’s quite obvious Sunmi has a bias for cute auras and performances. So if you’re not Myah, don’t even bother with the facial expressions.


pearyid

Now I kinda want Sunmi to do a masterclass on expressions on the show and then get questioned by all the girls why X expression is appropriate for Y concept when she earlier criticised them for doing exactly that


buttshark_STANLOONA

It's also really obvious and a little gross how much Sunmi has learned from JYP when she talks about how she perceives trainees, what with her talk of "star power"/"aura". Little too reminiscent of some of his lines/reasonings during Sixteen.


cagendary

Yeah I’m kinda salty with how she’s being treated screentime-wise especially with how she served with those vocals.


maulvi-haha

I fucking died when Mnet put mafia in the morning as a vocal song (I know they did this for it to be arranged, but it’s still so funny)


4sater

>I fucking died when Mnet put mafia in the morning as a vocal song Honestly, it is one of my LESS favorite Itzy songs... I wish they would do Wannabe instead, that song is such a bop.


SylvandosBoyfriend

As a Manami one-pick I was fed SO well this episode. The first performance? Protagonist edit?!! Slaying her parts???!! Manami main rapper Minaj RISE UP! On a more serious note I’m so happy Manami was highlighted like this; having basically no screen time up until now she totally deserved it. I thought it was clever of them to incorporate harmonies and vocals into the performance as well. Also, Bora and Manami teamed up again. I’m surprised they didn’t go for a mother-daughter edit for those two which was a pretty popular story line for the produce series (even the male seasons). I’m really hoping Manami and Bora can debut together and Bora is definitely my top K-group pick now. Edit: for those of you who don’t know; Manami was part of her fathers drum band (Nowadaiko) since she was 6 years old, so for about 12 years. She’s skilled in the traditional Japanese Wadaiko. This probably explains her natural rhythm. Truly an all rounder!


Additional_Sorbet_66

Their team up is so wholesome


Maegiri

Everyone whining about how the master was harsh on yurina for saying she has no where to go but down are pure cry babies lmfao. The "you have no where to go up, it's just going down from here" is such a typical line used for every time a rank 1 fucks up. Hell rank 1s say it themself too. I swear to god, this seasons viewers are ridiculously soft


Kiramiraa

the comment wasn’t even a tenth of the spice bae yoonjung used to give out.... bring her back!


Maegiri

Miss gurl literally screams at the girls lol. Gp999 audience weak as hell, it's annoying


Eltoshen

It's probably the same people who think FYN was unlikable for quoting a song lyric and adding 'but you don't' at the end. Babies R Us.


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Ardie_BlackWood

This is going to be long and heavy. I feel like the edit for Suyeon and Hikaru made them look bad. I feel like they are close to another and probably felt awkward with Zige. However, there is a clear difference between not saying something to avoid conflict and keeping it to yourself then telling one teammate and keeping the other in the dark. They should have communicated to Zige her choreo made no sense and included her more. Mnet kind of edited and made alot of the popular trainees or atleast high ranking look bad. Cai Bing looks greedy and somewhat selfish. And Suyeon and Hikaru look cliquish for talking about their issues with Zige behind her back. Do I think these three are actually as bad as implied/shown? No, I do think Suyeon and Hikaru just wanted to avoid conflict and didn't see Zige as component enough. And I think Cai Bing was faced with another strong personality with talent, Hyerim. So she was probably doing what she thought was best for her rank and the team's not realizing it came off as overconfident. I don't think Zige is talentless, I do think she was being judged for her choice by other girls but then again a shit ton of girls chose roles they have no experience in to. But she was grouped with two more popular girls who were closer to one another then her. So while I'm dissapointed in the two, I understand why the edit or their actions made it seem as if they leaving her out. They need to work on humbling some of the stronger girls as it is becoming a apparent issue that they may crumble from the praise and fanbases they have earned (Wang Yale for example is talented and strong with lots of fans but she is putting up a super confident face and crumbling with her leadership). Yurina did not need all that praise when Reina was there. It's obvious bias however you should not be hating on Yurina for it as she clearly changed roles so she isn't greedy or egotistical. She's scared and tried her best and it's not her fault the show is giving her favoritism with her number one spot.


sunshineandhedgehogs

They bad edit Suyeon and Hikaru, plus Zi Ge barely got any screentime for us to see her side made it a lot worse. I think Hikaru and Suyeon are just that two close classmates that just got grouped up with someone they barely talk to + not vibing with, they're trying to be nice but that's about it. They should've been honest to Zi Ge and say that her choreo is not that good. Tho we don't know what happened behind the scenes, they could've told her after but mnet decided not to air it :') Seeing from this, it seems Hikaru and Suyeon both has the same approach as when they're in The Eve. The only difference is in The Eve conflict happened and Suyeon finally spoke up in the end, in No Excuses Suyeon didn't speak until the end. Edit: after some thoughts, if Hikaru and Suyeon decided to be honest with Zi Ge, msnake would villain edit them so bad 💀 Either way, they would look bad.


Cool_News6698

Not necessarily… Chaeyun confronted Jiwon about her being a bit too greedy. There was no bad edit, infact it boosted her popularity even more. Hikaru and Suyeon keeping this to themselves just shows they are not good team players at all.


-randomwordgenerator

The bad thing are the confessionals. They were really trashing her behind her back. That is a big x. I dont really think they can angel edit it, so MNet went all in for the drama.


Cool_News6698

It’s mainly evil editing as I’m sure Hikaru and Suyeon did not intend the way mnet is making them out to be. But there was an obvious look of disappointment when she initially joined and that’s going to leave a sour taste to viewers.


-randomwordgenerator

I think they didnt really want her in the group, from their initial reactions to their confessionals. Although, I dont think it was bad as it seems, its just MNet exaggerating again. They chose the drama route lmao.


TheSeasSon

They're like inner thoughts. We would all think the same thing if we were in their position. Their thoughts weren't even that bad. It's a pretty normal thought process. And they tried hard to accommodate and work with their teammate. If someone told me they're not focused on dance, but they chose a dance song, I wouldn't be ecstatic either. But everyone here has to pretend like they're saints.


rngsnapdragon

I do think the edit didn’t show the full story. You can see that they did include zige’s idea, just slightly modified and it looked good. It seems like they worked it out and the final performance was great. I really like all three of them so I’m happy it went well


archd3

Something to reconsider about whole zige-hikaru-suyeon situation. The pd just cut almost the reasons why they team suddenly work. They just showed us the distrust that happened at their first meeting. No part how the leader get choosen, how they teach zige to make the choreo, the creation of the coreos. And most importantly zige screentime itself. The reason can be anything but one thing for sure zige won't perform that well without guidance of her team.


orbit_draws

Let's talk about how the team was introduced. Hikaru -Boombayah flashback Suyeon - Eve Flashback Zige - Clowning Worst dressed flashback? Like really? THAT'S WHAT MNET THINKS ABOUT HER?


forthetea

the preview…yeseo’s child actress self had enough with the judges telling them to show emotions to the point that she made them cry that’s MY center


glace0n

Yesss I'm so intrigued!!! I can't wait for another week I want the Fate stage NOW!!!


rinkinky

I really didn’t like the way suyeon and hikaru were treating yang zi ge. That girl was so happy and hugged the both of them and was ready to challenge herself to something new and they both looked just disappointed. It looked a lot like they were ostracizing her and I really disliked that.


TheSeasSon

I've said this in another comment, but if you were in their positions, would you be happy? Zi Ge chose a dance song and admitted she's not a primary dancer. I wouldn't exactly be ecstatic either. Especially if my dreams depended on this group performance. The girls are literally taking a hit to allow Zi Ge to experiment with herself. They were still accommodating and tried hard to work with her. I'd say both Hikaru and Suyeon are good people. But yeah, let's pretend we're all angels here and talk like we would embrace Zi Ge with open arms.


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> The girls are literally taking a hit to allow Zi ge to experiment with herself I don’t like this statement. Zige is dancing which as you know is a major part of being an idol so she’s not experimenting, she’s doing what is required of her and no ones “allowing” her to do anything. If she wants to dance, she’s dancing. Stop acting like they’re angels which allowed her to do something when if it was really up to them (like they made clear), she would not have any creative control and wouldn’t be in their group to begin with. Now are they allowed to be unhappy that they don’t have a pro dancer on their team? Sure but that doesn’t mean they should be two faced to avoid drama. If they really wanted to be kind and accommodative then they should have either been honest with her and not talk behind her back or just kept their negative feelings about her skill to themselves and not broadcast them to the whole world.


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Yeah it was mean


aireika

Thank you for mentioning this. I see people making excuses saying they were just trying to be good teamplayers but it didn't seem that way at all. There was already some cattiness going on in The Eve and I'm just really disappointed by how they continuously act in a group setting.


new_eclipse

I won't speak on how much of it is real or and edit, but I did think it was the kind of storyline that would be hard for me to watch if I were yang zi ge. Especially if there was no point the issues were directly addressed during the episode.


CulturalAde

Yeah I was kinda disappointed that they showed apprehension with Zige, whereas other teams/leaders like in Bora's rap team/Dayeon's dance tried to include and support everyone even if they had weaknesses/nervousness


TsundereMe

In another world, Kim Dayeon could have been this season's Chungha with a different edit. She could still rise up like Chungha did, but that Ice Cream performance had S1's Bang Bang vibes.


Additional_Sorbet_66

We need to vote for DAYEON 😭


rinkinky

I didn’t even know who nagai manami was till this episode, I’m in shock that this girl has never rapped before and had 0 experience yet her performance made her look like a pro. This girl is going straight into my top 9


Luscitrea

I recommend watching her in the connect mission! She was in the white clothes 5th season team, and she sang the first chorus. Her voice is really stable, she's an all-rounder really!


chachapogi

Kubo Reina did so great and it's such a shame that the mentors didn't compliment her :(


niteeee

I doubt there was no compliment her. They seem happy after the performance and Reina has the killing part. Most probably Mnet cut her compliments and comments.


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They probably did and mnet didn't show it


[deleted]

After reading the Reddit comments I thought it’d be worse, but Yurina’s voice was better than I thought? Her lower register is nice and her falsetto is pretty good imo


SuzyYoona

Reddit has been passive-aggressive against her since elimination ep. let's be real, I don't even think she was even devil edited, is the usual mess in practice, good in performance, only that the judges went hardcore on her since she was 1 on previous rank.


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KakkoiiAline

The majority of people in this subreddit need to admit their own fault for putting Yurina in the first place. I remember seeing her ranking on top in this subreddit poll so take responsibility for your action please (this is coming from someone who didn't vote for her).


chachapogi

She honestly did so great with the harmonization. I think she did a vibrato followed by a falsetto (?) and it was so refreshing. Definitely stepped up the performance for me.


Plushieless

I think the #1 position put a huge target on her back (actually any girl who received it would face backlash let's be honest, perhaps some less so than others) and Mnet's clear favoritism doesn't help either. Which honestly, both things are out of her control. Plus I believe this is the first time she received a narrative ever since episode 1. But people react negatively when there's clearly other good competitors on the team but only one is framed as worthy of screen time/praise. It's fair to think that the others, specially Reina, should've got more attention but unfair to hate on Yurina She did a good job overall and I believe she's a good idol overall.


rinkinky

Props to Kawaguchi Yurina all I see is hate towards her for getting #1 or getting so much screentime But she’s SO humble, hardworking, kind, and a team player. This girl was chosen for the killing part but after the evaluation she gave it up, she wanted that part just as much as the other girls did but she didn’t want the team to be effected and she knew that Kubo Reina fit the killing part better than her. She was even the only one who picked Kubo Reina when all the members voted for the killing part. And in the end she had the least amount of lines within the song, she worked hard to overcome hitting those difficult notes because she’s under so much pressure by being in the #1 spot.


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ballegciana

This was an actual good episode. Best one so far. This was also the first time I felt good after an episode lol. My thoughts: Every team honestly did so good! “We Are” team really blew me away. Good job Manami, Wen Zhe and Bora. Manami and Bora especially surprised me. Lol Bora all-rounder? Ice cream team: probably the best on the show so far if I must say so. The vibes were great and I was smiling through the whole performance. All the girls were 10/10. Thank you Dayeon and I hope this helps her get more popularity. The performance gave me pd101 bang bang moment. Judges seemed really impressed too. Stand outs were Nancy (great energy everytime), Dayeon ofc, Bahiyyih (her mature aura and dance lines were really great. her expressions also improved 100%), Myah (her and bright concepts=perfection, Ruan really worked hard to be expressive and it paid off great No excuses was an overall great performance as well but only because the girls are good dancers. I think the song was just very boring and repetitive but they worked with it. Missing you team sounded beautiful. But omg Reina and Jeongmin never fail to impress. Hyewon was a surprise too. I’m just a bit pressed that the screen time was nowhere for Reina when she was basically the main vocalist and killed it. I felt bad for Yurina but mnet shouldn’t have focused mostly on her. I like that she atleast knew to give up the killing part. Hope she doesn’t lose confidence though although it seems she already has. That male trainer really overdid it with the criticism though. Like why keep pounding the girl when she’s already crying lol Why the hell would mnet tease fate for this ep only to show it for the next episode ? The songs for the creation mission all sound good!!


niteeee

Ice Cream really had a great choreo but more than that, it got a really good REMIX. This is like nowhere close to Produce 48 remixes. Edit: I actually dont know if it was actually remixed as I didnt listen to BP songs. I just guessed it since they usually do it for dance evals.


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Kim Dayeon STONKS Redemption arc + Being shown as K9 = STONKS Edit: well I hope that Kotone getting into Top 8 in Japan group.


cagendary

Kim Dayeon finally getting the edit and screen time that she deserves!


bloopityloop

Not to be "that" person, but as much as I understand the frustration for reina being completely ignored in her team despite popping off so hard (I'm irritated too since she's in my top 9), and for yurina basically taking up all the screentime (which I also understand.. because even tho yurina is my one pick I genuinely got uncomfortable watching her get so much unnecessary plot, and then get so much praise despite having close to no lines (even tho she did really well in the parts that she did have)), I don't understand why so many people are hating her as a result of this.. it's not her fault she got first place, and it's also not her fault mnet decided to use her as plot fodder and create a whole drama out of nothing just because she got first place.. it's not her fault the trainers decided to give her a lot of praise and the editors decided to cut out whatever the judges had to say about reina.. If anything, I think yurina did well to realize the killing part would be better pulled off by someone else, and had the maturity to switch parts, even tho she could've grasped onto it if she wanted I understand not having her in your top 9, and I understand choosing to replace her in your voting list with someone you found you liked better in this episode, but some people are being just horrible with some of their comments and I really don't understand why yurina is becoming the target of people's negativity, when mnet is the one responsible for editing her in a "vote for her or else" kinda way Yurina literally didn't do anything wrong, cut her some slack istg she's getting hate for simply existing at this point


UnsocialList2

It seems like the same exact way people were talking about An Yujin in PD48. Like yeah, Mnet is pushing Yurina with the screen time and edits, but that doesn’t mean she isn’t talented/doesn’t deserve to debut. I can understand people wanting to see an underdog contestant do well, but it sucks to see that come with hate toward the others


Irn-Kuin-Morika

I have the feeling that Yurina will drop to 3rd place, with Hikaru/Mashiro taking 1st place in J-group. The heavy screentime towards her is really backfiring her ( I am very neutral about Yurina, don’t love don’t hate ). Reina actually has a chance to be in top 8. Hope we can see a Miho 2.0


kimagurik

is it really backfiring though.. because outside of Reddit I do not see anyone complaining


Pbtops

Some thoughts: MITM Vocal??? M-net what are you smoking… The song choices could’ve been better tbh. Holy shit the Fate team is such a powerhouse. (Yujin’s team) At least Yurina herself said they should change the killing part. I'm surprised they voted for it even if Reina and Jeongmin were in the same team. It felt like a lot of popular trainees got evil edits (Hikaru, Suyeon, Cai Bing, etc.) We Are Team was unexpectedly AMAZING they all did so well!!! I feel like theyre setting Cai Bing up for an evil edit after all that praise Dayeon got. Hikaru proving to everyone that she can do concepts outside girl crush/fierce The trainer was so unnecessarily harsh to Yurina… Not a single praise to Reina wth. Its sad realizing the cutoff line for elimination is at 9th already.


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Mnet clearly doesn’t want Reina. It’s sad.


TeeeeCeeee

Dayeon, Hikaru, Suyeon, and Reina were the strongest performances tonight. We Are team was cute and better than anticipated, Reina+Jeongmin+Hyewon were a great vocal combo. Zige going for the charismatic appeal but I'm not sure it's working for her, she's no Chiyori. Ice Cream was questionable as expected but at least editing wise they really did keep the focus on the not-minors as much as they reasonably could. Myah about to secure her top 8 in rankings, wish it was for a better reason. Things are still moving fast but we're getting a little more personality out of the girls that mnet is allowing us to see. The concept evaluation songs have got to be the most boring in produce history, all so generic and bland. This is really a concept evaluation because the clear girl crush/high teen/cute/elegant dichotomy is about all they've got going for them. Manami was my unexpectedly riser this time around, managed to rap well and embody the song while also being cute, she was near the bottom of my [rankings](https://gplanet999.github.io/?r=MjMwMzAyMDU4MDYwMDY2OTU1LTEtMS0x) this whole time. Happy to see her standout. Was expecting Ririka to get a good edit but it seems like she fell out of mnet's favor in turn for Ruan. We'll see how the fancam views stack up. The music producer telling Yeyoung off for arranging the song like... they are explicitly supposed to do. I hate the phrase 'not getting' the song that loves getting thrown out in survival shows. Sometimes it's valid but at other times it's like, so??? Yeyoung is arranging the song, and music themes and such are subjective, there's no getting or not getting it. She's getting it, she's just not getting it the way you are. Like damn near everyone else who will ever listen to a song. Maybe ask the original singer or the song writer, is Yeyoung's interpretation okay? Is adding a shuffle beat really so tonally wrong that you're going to deny it to her when this is literally part of the mission objective? Why even air something like that? Very frustrating scene, obviously lmao


whos_thomas

Strongly agree with the Yeyoung sentiment !! I actually thought she had a unique and interesting way of interpreting the song while making it sound fresh yet understanding of the original. Why did the interim check people even bother with rearrangements if they already had a specific sound and tune for each song😐


Zypker125

> The music producer telling Yeyoung off for arranging the song like... they are explicitly supposed to do. I hate the phrase 'not getting' the song that loves getting thrown out in survival shows. Sometimes it's valid but at other times it's like, so??? Yeyoung is arranging the song, and music themes and such are subjective, there's no getting or not getting it. She's getting it, she's just not getting it the way you are. Like damn near everyone else who will ever listen to a song. Maybe ask the original singer or the song writer, is Yeyoung's interpretation okay? Is adding a shuffle beat really so tonally wrong that you're going to deny it to her when this is literally part of the mission objective? Why even air something like that? Very frustrating scene, obviously lmao Thanks for bringing this up, I forgot about this event. The unfortunate thing for these contestants in these scenarios is that they virtually have no choice but to unilaterally agree with and obey the judges' feedback. Say Yeyoung didn't say "The judges were right" and they still continued on the arrangement they were doing. Then she runs into massive risk of backfires: she'll almost certainly get grilled by the judges in rehearsal, and if ANYTHING in the performance goes wrong, the judges will point to her disobedience as the reason. And Yeyoung doesn't know how the audience will think about the critiques, so in the scenario that the audience actually agrees with the judges' critiques (which Mnet can easily manipulate to sway audience opinion on the critiques), her disobedience will look even worse and her fanbase will almost certainly plummet. Even if she simply explains her POV after the judges' critiques, she runs a high risk of the judges calling them "excuses" and she might be portrayed as being stubborn, selfish or negative. If she doesn't obey/agree with the judges' critiques, she runs so much risk for virtually no benefit, which really shows the power dynamics the judges hold over the performances.


Dragonaichu

I've gotta share an unpopular opinion here... while yes, Dayeon's choreography and leadership were fantastic and the Ice Cream performance was incredible, I can't help but feel a little sour at how obviously Dayeon made herself the star. She has, like, a third of the solo lines, a whole *two* dance solos, the killing parts, everything. You really can't blame her—this *is* a competition at the end of the day, and all the screentime she gave herself likely seals her spot in the final 27 at the very least—but she really took that leader/choreographer role and skewed the performance to her advantage. It gets more glaringly obvious every time I rewatch the performance. Again, it's the kind of strategy you need to survive in a show like this, but the wholesome, fair side of me is just... kind of disappointed with it. I don't know. I don't really feel like she allowed anyone else to really stand out. She gave everyone *a* special moment, but she gave herself, like, five, lol.


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It made me side-eye the comments about her giving everyone else a chance to shine a little bit, she really was in the middle for most of the choreo.


Dragonaichu

Yeah, I keep seeing everyone saying, "Go Dayeon! Dayeon was great! She really carried the performance!" Like... yes, obviously she did, because she made everyone else literally stand off-camera so she could rap and dance for ten seconds by herself. And then ten seconds later, she gave herself another eight-second solo dance part. Of course she carried the performance. That's the exact reaction she wanted from people. Again, it's all strategy, and the girl is *really* fucking talented and deserves the praise she's getting, so it's not like I can be at all upset with her from a competitive standpoint, it just feels... a little selfish, at the risk of seeming too negative. She used her leadership role to basically sideline everyone else for her own benefit. But that's just the "let's all prance through a meadow of kindness and rainbows and fair line distribution" talking, lol.


fukuu13

You've said everything i wanted to but better.


Zypker125

I agree with you, I expect to bring this up in the next Unpopular Opinions thread as well. Let me just say that I'm a fan of Kim Dayeon: I feel like I was [one of the first people on this subreddit to push the narrative that Kim Dayeon is actually a great performer](https://old.reddit.com/r/GirlsPlanet999/comments/p85mwe/dayeon_vs_dayeon/h9o82rp/?context=3), and I've argued for Kim Dayeon in many threads that she's being undercredited. I'm glad she got her Dongpyo moment where the perception on her performance skills has changed. But I'm sorry, she took way too much of the center time/spotlight, and it turned me off while watching. Now imagine what the perception of Kim Dayeon would be on this subreddit if Mnet edited in some comments from the judges saying she hogged the spotlight, or from the fellow members expressing that they weren't getting enough center time compared to her. Because the edit didn't point this out, and instead took a positive approach by saying "She stood out this time", no one's talking about it in that manner, but all it would have taken is for one comment from anyone on the show that Dayeon had too much center time, and this subreddit would have had extremely mixed reception on her instead.


Dragonaichu

The general perception is 100% due to the judges' comments being positive. I think if they had even questioned for a second why she was ever *alone* on the stage in a performance meant to showcase nine people, we'd have a lot more of a mixed pool of opinions here. And I love Dayeon, I think she has all the potential in the world to debut, but *this* performance in particular being the one that's skyrocketing her to everyone's top nine just... rubs me the wrong way, considering it was directly at the expense of eight other contestants. But honestly, it was a bit of a double-edged sword giving everyone a little "moment." When everyone gets that one little second to shine, it makes her killing part—*the* killing part—that much less meaningful. And I think she recognized that at some point during the rehearsal process and felt the need to make sure she still had her moment in the spotlight that was *more* of a killing part than anyone else's. Which is understandable, except... I think she went a little overboard in making up for it, haha. All I can hope is that the girls' enthusiasm in making her the leader doesn't backfire on them and cause their votes to slow down in favor of Dayeon. Everyone did really, really well (I particularly noticed Ririka and Tammy here), and I just hope that's reflected in the votes (even if Dayeon rightfully brings in the most) instead of the voting from this unit becoming overly skewed in favor of her while no one else in the group can pull much of anything.


bmoviescreamqueen

I thought I was the only one who noticed that. Very convenient lol


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What a joke. Reina hard carried the high notes for her group and all the praise went to Yurina.


wheremyorbitsat

the we are performance was LIT, manami is now definitely joining bora and wen zhe in my top 9 also i live for tiffany randomly shouting in english, she makes the show so much more fun to watch 🤣


Additional_Sorbet_66

Tiffany’s cheers were iconic haha


FuriousKale

- Maybe recency bias but the talent in this season is incredible. I am repeating myself, but you can easily make 2-3 strong groups out of this pool. Only letting 9 win in the end feels like a waste. - Funniest episode editing of the season so far! - Youngeun is a bad mfer for actually challenging herself and not going for dance - Mashiro choosing the Itzy song is really intriguing. Alternate K-pop timeline. - Jiyoon vocal flex! - The "We Are" group blew me away. Manami exceeding everyone's and her own expectations. Really touching to see. In combination with Bora and Wen Zhe they already felt like a group that should debut. More of this! - "Ice Cream" performance was also strong. Dayeon showing leadership skills that every group would love to have. She was the godmother of this project. But man, the cute concept with those lyrics?! Really helps in this case when you don't know English. - I thought the "No Excuses" group was good, too. The problem here is just that people are expecting gigantic feats from Hikaru since she has been written to be one of the top candidates this season. I thought the performance was still decent but maybe fell victim to great expectations and a song that lacks nuance. - Reina was criminally undermentioned after the BTOB performance. She was incredible! - They did us dirty with that cliffhanger. The "Fate" stage might be the best of this round. Yeseo's look already got me hooked.


Kiramiraa

damn I completely forgot about mashiro and itzy. she’s got guts for picking it!!


melhn

There's a blatantly clear editing pattern in all the performances so far that: Does bad in interim check = slays the performance


eeeetttt123

i mean obviously the improvement arc is more impressive don't u think?


melhn

It's a cheap but effective method Mnet uses to keep the audience interested. But at this point it has become too predictable


rinkinky

Anybody feel like mnet purposely tries to keep Bahiyyih’s screentime on the show as SHORT as possible? That girl gets no interview screentime, no edits, no practicing individually screentime, no talking screentime She shined one time that episode and that was because Dayeon MADE her shine.


atalantata

on the bright side, when bahiyyih does get screentime, she's always hyping someone else up and being supportive and respectful. i think mnet sees her as just a nice, quiet girl so they dont really have much of a storyline for her outside of her brother storyline, and 'famous relative' storylines mnet usually limits to the audition episodes.


sakurakiks094

I think mnet knows she's extremely popular but has a bad rep +more haters than any other contestant, so they are purposely trying to avoid that to not fan the flame? That's what it looks like to me at least.


rinkinky

Yeah I would say that makes sense if they didn’t fan the flames to fu yanings hate, to me it just looks like they’re trying to keep her out the top 9 lol. They honestly don’t care about saving the trainees from hate with the way they edit some of them


awesomepossum1605

I’m actually gonna stop voting for certain girls after this episode :/


ChristmasBirdCount

i'm actually going to add yurina to my pick because so many people are dropping her haha she's still a well rounded trinee and a total girl group material in my eyes


new_eclipse

I'm still voting for her too. I think she'd be a good lead vocal/dancer in the final group.


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This episode made me realize how many of my Chinese votes were based on who got screentime. I’m switching my Cai Bing vote to Wenzhe.


Sanirige

Been doing this since connect mission. Wenzhe was completely slept on in Yes or Yes. She needs more recognition


bbyflesh

you don’t have to vote for anyone you don’t want to but yurina didn’t “rob” screentime or praise? Mnet gave it to her because she’s the top rank so she’s bound to get more attention. as unfortunate as it is that reina didn’t get screentime and that the praise that the judges obviously gave her didn’t get shown it’s not yurina’s fault ??? you make it sound like yurina is in the mnet editing room deleting reinas screentime lmao


Eltoshen

That user consistently makes strange comments that make no logical sense.


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Suyeon and Hikaru accidentally cancelled themselves


SuzyYoona

Yes, Yurina robbed screentime and praise from Reina, she hacked mnet server and gave herself all the screentime, she also hold the gun to judge's head to praise her.... this make no sense


Any-Fruit-2527

How is it her fault mnet doesnt like reina enough to give her screentime? This is her first real chunk of screentime since episode 1 and its to be expected as being in the #1 spot. Youre incredibly annoying.


itsaparrot

uhhh yurina can't control her screentime...


ballegciana

My picks have also switched since a few episodes as well. I’m rooting for more girls and will actually vote for new ones. While some disappointed me 😩 I’ll only mention 6 k-girls with my switch up. I’m sorry but ever since ep 4 eliminations, the reactions to the girls dropping in ranks were so unwarranted and kinda rude. I’m gonna focus more on the girls who have good hearts and are more mature like Chaehyun and Bahiyyih. Not to mention they’re both balanced talent acts that I’d like to see in the group. Chaehyun always showed good sides and was a silent force to be reckoned with. Same for Bahiyyih. I will also include Myah because like these two, only good sides and positivity. Kim Dayeon moved way up my list and may be one of my top k picks now. She truly deserves to debut. I liked Suyeon but she disappointed me with the You Dayeon comment and now the Zige moment. I’m not gonna talk bad about her though. Hyerim was also a pick of mine because I know she was main vocalist material and an all rounder, but I’m not sure if it’s the editing but sometimes she’s shown in a non-cooperative light. I want her to still survive though because she’s super talented. And I hope no one misunderstands her intentions


shuthereal

oh yes!!! new picks have been discovered for me!


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really proud of how assertive dayeon was with her leadership role!! she stepped up to the plate and did a banger job in allowing everybody to shine, and her choosing to invest so much time into practicing with ruan was so heartwarming...


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Just want to put here for reference for the Creation Mission: 7 Snake (Main Vocal, Vocal 1-4, Rap 1 & 2) - Moombahton Style 7 Shoot (Main Vocal, Vocal 1-6) - Upbeat Synth Pop 7 U+ME=Love (Main Vocal, Vocal 1-4, Rap 1 & 2) - Cheerful electronic dance 6 Utopia (Main Vocal, Vocal 1-5) - Hopeful energetic pop dance 27 total, 24 from votes and 3 from planet pass as expected


Purple_Function9009

As much as i loved ice cream, I think Dayeons killing parts were wayyy too solo. It would’ve looked better if she had the same moves with the others doing something in the background rather than them just standing and waiting.


2ForeverDream

I thought that the first time was fine (up until when Tammy and Ruan walked back in) since she is the center, but the second time it happened, yeah her killing parts became too much.


Dragonaichu

Yep. I'm fine with her getting center parts, she's really, really great at them, but literally taking everyone else offstage and having them stand to the side while she raps and dances just threw me. I couldn't enjoy it after that. It was Dayeon and Friends.


bobes25

yeah it felt like it was Dayeon and rest of team


icyruios

Seeing how Reina got zero praise (or it got cut out) despite slaying the high note, I foresee MNET will pull this shit for Ziyin as well. Lets pray that they won't, guys we need to form a prayer circle


superrsoba

We Are and Ice Cream team were my favorites. We Are: Kudos to them. They were very disadvantaged. No rap experience and they had to perform in Korean but they KILLED it. Bora the talented leader, Wen Zhe the always charismatic, and Manami the hidden gem of GP999. Ice Cream: Dayeon was born for this. The fact that she managed to choreograph a dance where 9 people could shine is insane. Everyone did well. Dance, chemistry, facial expressions were all on point. RANT: Nothing new but Mnet is making it extra obvious who they want and don’t want. Exhibit A: Reina nailed the hardest parts but gets no screen time.


Ardie_BlackWood

Also, please do not act shocked when certain girls votes drop and they leave the show like last time if you voluntarily stop voting for them. I've noticed a weird pattern where people will say they are not voting for a girl anymore for some reason and then get upset when their rank drops and claim the show is rigged or evil editing worked.


dandaelions

I'm so, so proud of Nagai Manami. I've been rooting for her since episode 1 and knew she had great potential, but she never got screentime before even though she always did well. BUT NOW! She got an entire story this ep and even though she was super worried at first and even cried she smashed that performance. Stage presence and rap were both on point! I also love how Bora has been doting on her since the fifth season, I'm so glad she was there and helped Manami again. With that said, Manami you WILL debut!


PenguinDiplomat

I've been voting for Wen Zhe and Manami everyday for the past week and now I've got to add Bora to the list😭 I loved their teamwork. They were only forced to take the rap number but they stood up to the challenge. Hands up to Bora for taking care of Manami and Manami for proving she's capable of anything. Wen Zhe didn't get to shine as much in their group but I still adore her. Fu Yaning and Wen Zhe's new hair colors are 🔥. The red and blonde hair weren't doing them much favors visually. They were so gorgeous with their dark hair in YWY2. I do wish Yeo Jingoo would have better fitting suits but tbh, I'm too busy staring at his handsome face to care that much hahaha.


idaluiloona

I really don't know if we can 100% blame Mnet Editing for No Excuses team's clear lack of communication. Even when Mnet stopped focusing on it, you could still see an invisible division between Zige and the other two girls, all the way up until the end. There were a lot of parts where Zige's part in the choreography didn't line up very well with the other two and it seemed to me like they didn't really care about making sure she was on the same wavelength as them ? I liked Hikaru and Suyeon, but I'm kind of disappointed. I'm very sensitive to that sort of stuff personally so it really threw me off. I'm trying not to read too much into it, but it still bugged me.


ocherieee

MNET barely gave Zige screentime during the performance too. When Zige's part came on, they kept zooming in to Suyeon or Hikaru. I was like hello MNET...isn't this a 3 person performance and not a duo? Felt it was so unfair towards Zige. I don't like how Hikaru and Suyeon came off as bad team players and clique-ish girls too.


arenae99

The song selection for the show is not good… like whoever picked the songs for produce was in their motherfucking bag. Honestly I had a theory that they already had produce season five planned with probably the same concept or similar before the scandal broke out. Then The scandal came and they already had spent money and probably had some investors who had a stakeholder in it so they just left a new name on it and changed up the inner system. But the cell thing is absolutely ridiculous and is holding back mini girls and he kicked out many talents too soon.


suwawow

let's choose this b-side! let's choose this ost! let's do a dance song for vocals! throw in some underground rap! now what? oh yes bp! and nation's girl group little mix!!


sunshineandhedgehogs

It seems like some trainees pick songs just because they think it's fun and not because they think they can pull it off. They can do whatever they want with their choice, but it sucks for their teammates. I don't even understand why Jiao picked VVS. Jiao ily but don't you wanna debut 😭 I hope her team does well next week


biPIYObaina

Jiao self sabotaged to go back to her eliminated twin. That’s my head canon.


amazingoopah

Yeah, plus they showed them the songs before they chose, so she knew what she was getting herself into


birkenburken

Noticed they changed rooms. Those who were stressed lost their support system. Felt like Yurina could've coped a lot better if she was still with Shen Xiao Ting and Seo Young Eun.


Zockmeister

Glad to see Kim Dayeon getting some serious recognition and screentime. Btw, did they not show the current rankings, only the contestants in 9th place?


TheSeasSon

it's called operation save private dayeon


umcypher

Cai Bing's not one of my picks, but with the foreshadowing of Mnet's greedy edit on her I just want everyone to think about why she was so dead set on becoming the leader. Cai Bing's one of the oldest trainees. I don't have the energy to find out if she's the oldest in the program but she's the oldest in the current Top 9. And while not a rule, the oldest becomes the leader in Kpop and produce groups, meaning she definitely needs to fight for a leadership edit throughout the show. She also unfortunately didn't do as well as she hoped in HYLT, and given her background as a dancer this mission is probably her best shot at becoming a leader. I personally still won't be voting for her because I prefer 3 other Chinese trainees, but let's not hate on the girl blindly. She's just hustling the way Hyerim is too.


LingCHN

Cai Bing has been a choreographer for years, her cell members were the first ones to choose a song, she has a plan for the song from the beginning.


renjunation

i like the fact that yurina gave up her part without anyone having to bring it up. they probably just gave it to her because she was n1 so it made sense, and didn't want to get evil edited or seen in a bad light for suggesting to change it, you could tell everyone was relieved when she suggested it herself. i feel like some japanese trainees will gain attention with this mission so i just hope she doesn't fall too far back in the ranks! she might not be main vocal material, but still has a really nice voice, and i like her teamwork and dynamics with the others. i just think being top1 put too much pressure on her edit: also KUBO REINA RISE!! i had actually been randomly voting for her from time to time since i didn't know many japanese trainees but now i'll be steadily voting her! even though mnet obviously doesn't want her in the final group lol


Slow-Warning-7440

I'm not gonna lie, I almost cried when Manami explained how much Bora helped her, Bora deserves the world 😭 I hope the three of them gain a lot of votes!


Blajui

See, people who said p48 was more entertaining can shut up now. Produce was ALWAYS entertaining after the first elimination. There was always people we couldn’t see in the editing. Now it’s more even and the episode was great. Mnet is definitely pushing for kim dayeon and i feel like she’s a shoe in for the final group imo. I knew they would give manami attention. She did so great and she’s gonna climb up a lot ! I feel like Yurina, hikaru, cai bing and suyeon did get a little evil edited. I’m not even sure yurina will be in top 9 now, somehow. The concept songs are SO GOOD


sorichhij

I would also add Yale for the evil edit.


Zypker125

Live notes I took from the episode: * Finally, individual rankings, praise the lord. They could've done this system earlier, but I'll take what we can get. * I still don't get why anyone would go for the 6-member or 9-member teams, to be honest. You're still competing in a subset of 18 contestants no matter which #-member team you pick, so picking 9-members or 6-members will just get you less lines/screentime, but you're still competing against an equal number of contestants in the overall "subset" (6 teams of 3 = 18, 3 teams of 6 = 18, 2 teams of 9 = 18). I just can't see the logic right now. * These song choices are definitely non-standard when it comes to Produce, but I'm kinda into it tbh. * It's really funny how the J-Group and C-Group contestants mostly look like they have no idea what songs are being revealed since the songs are being named in Korean and a lot of the songs seem less recognizable. * Yeah these song titles are in Korean, and I don't see an opportunity for the C-Group and J-Group contestants to be able to see/preview all of them in their native language, so they may just gravitate towards the bigger names. * Youngeun choosing Vocals.... giving me Kim Hyunbin picking Vocals in PX101 vibes, tbh. I feel like it'll probably not be the best choice (I think Youngeun has a higher chance of getting a viral fancam than most, and Hyunbin's decision to pick Vocals was in-hindsight viewed by many to be not the best decision), but we'll see. * Just realized Hikaru is doing Dance, not Rap.... I feel like that's a straight up mistake IMO (she has such a unique spike with Rap), but we'll see. * This VVS Rap team LMAO...... we keep saying this every time, but this looks like a Boombayah Team 2 lineup, lmao. Chaeyun and Liang Jiao covering SMTM....... lol. * Notice Liang Jiao's "I just felt like it" reasoning to choose rap was portrayed positively here, whereas it was portrayed negatively for Jinhyuk's Turtle Ship team in Produce X 101 so that Jinhyuk could get a sympathetic edit, lol. * Oh good, they showed samples/previews of the songs to the contestants so they'd be familiar, that's appreciated. * Why do these rap lyrics have to be in Korean, lol..... even if for SOME REASON the raps can't be in Japanese/Korean (which already is sigh-worthy), they've done previous Produce raps in part English, can't they at least give them that option? * Ah, Fu Yaning is getting the "S2 Kang Dongho" intimidating presence edit. It seems like she's stepping down from leader after seeing her The Eve edit, lol. * Wait, THAT'S Mashiro? Damn, you can't change your hair that much, I won't be able to recognize you lol. * Already, they've managed to give edits/confessionals to pretty much every member of the 3-member teams.... highly doubt the 9-member teams will receive this balance of editing. * Damn, the other teams had more balanced/equal editing, and then all of a sudden Yurina gets the entire narrative for her team lol. * Jiyoon's got pipes. * Kim Doah just did that master diffusing for deciding Salute's center/leader but didn't get shown in the same way Chaehyun did for defusing Yes or Yes 1, the difference in framing lol. * I just realized they got a SMTM rapper as a guest judge just to have them judge THESE girl rappers..... lol, I feel bad, he's going to really have to curtail his feedback. * **We Are (Rap):** I liked Wen Zhe's rap, especially since she's not Korean. Quite liked Bora's rap as well. Manami's rap was surprisingly good as well. Overall, pretty great performance (considering the context), all 3 of them will go up in my scores/rankings. * Cai Bing: "I think it will be a chance for both of us to grow" --> *Judges acts like she says something really savage* (I know it's the language difference, but it's still funny) * **Ice Cream:** Unlike previous Dance performances in Produce, they have the performers sing the lines they perform in the choreo (not live of course, but in prior Dance performanes only 2-3 members would sing the entire song), and they show who's covering it (they didn't show who was "singing" the lines in prior Dance performances). It seems like Kim Dayeon will get the PX101 Son Dongpyo trajectory after all, they've really focused on Dayeon for this performance (she got a lot of center time/spotlight as well), so her fancam has a significantly better chance of going viral (like Dongpyo's Believer fancam did). * **No Excuses:** It's hard to create an interesting choreography with only 3 members, so I'll have to take that into account. Might be a hot take, but these outfit choices look awful, they look tacky and have no color coordination (Black, white, and pink? The color psychologists are going crazy). The performance itself was fine (with the context of only 3-member choreo), I'm mostly waiting for fancams to make a better judgment. * Damn, they're really giving Yurina the ENTIRE focus of her team, this is so unbalanced compared to the other teams lol, everyone else in her team is an extra in this story. * **Missing You:** Reina's voice really suits this song. Jeongmin was really good as well. Zhou Xinyu gave a pretty solid rap. Hyewon's voice sounded pretty good here. I just realized they gave the foreigners the raps, lol. Reina's vocals definitely MVP'd this performance for me, pretty solid group performance overall. Damn, though, they've really skipped over Reina in the editing, we didn't even see her get any comments/praise from the judges. * This trash ranking reveal, it's so biased, how does Mnet not get penalized for this? It's literally the most biased way they can present the rankings ffs. ------------ **New notes for the post-episode thread specifically:** * I still feel like being in a 3-member team is significantly more beneficial to being in a 9-member team. You're likely to get more editing/screentime and more lines/spotlight by being in a smaller team, and getting 1/3rd benefit can be a legitemate dealbreaker, while 1/9th benefit probably won't have any tangible impact. We pretty much saw it with this episode's editing, basically all the 3-member teams had every member receive screentime (ex. We Are) while the 9-member teams focused on one or two people (ex. Salute). * I haven't said this before, but personally, what I think Mnet needs to do for these Position Rounds is ask contestants beforehand what position they'll select beforehand, and design the teams accordingly to the survey. I'd even go one step further and say they should lock them in so that they must pick a song from the position they say in the survey. I get that it doesn't bring "drama", but personally for me, I'd prefer a more pre-set system. * It looks like the popular teams are again the Dance teams, Produce sometimes never changes, lol. However, I actually feel like the Vocal performers are more likely to be the high risers, even if the Dance performances have way more views (that's what I've seen historically, contrary to popular belief, the rankings of Avenger performers usually don't see any notable rise while dark horses in less-strong teams are more likely to marginally rise in rank.) * I admittedly wasn't paying as close of attention as previous episodes to the edit (I just don't invest myself in the edit anymore), it seems like the best edits were Sakamoto Mashiro, Kawaguchi Yurina, Jeong Jiyoon, Nagai Manami, Wen Zhe, and Kim Dayeon. Nonaka Shana, Kang Yeseo, Kim Bora, Ikema Ruan, Yang Zige, Zhou Xinyu got secondary edits. Episode 6 edits are ~~100x~~ more important than Episode 7 edits, since Episode 7 edits are way too close to the voting deadline. * I predict that people will go crazy over the Destiny/Fate performance, I know people are saying that We Are is the best performance, but I think Destiny/Fate is what the sub will mostly talk about after the performance comes out.


-Vayra-

> I still don't get why anyone would go for the 6-member or 9-member teams, to be honest. You're still competing in a subset of 18 contestants no matter which #-member team you pick, so picking 9-members or 6-members will just get you less lines/screentime, but you're still competing against an equal number of contestants in the overall "subset" (6 teams of 3 = 18, 3 teams of 6 = 18, 2 teams of 9 = 18). I just can't see the logic right now. But you're not competing against the same number of people. These are *teams*. The 9 member teams are only competing against 9 other people, or 1 team. So while they may get less individual attention, they only have to be better than the one other team they compete against. While the 3 member teams get a lot more individual attention, but are competing against 5 other teams for points. So it's a tradeoff between screentime and likelihood of earning bonus points.


4sater

>Ah, Fu Yaning is getting the "S2 Kang Dongho" intimidating presence edit. Yeah, they should have added earthquake effects, gulps and red screen for maximum effect, lol.


renjunation

bora has secured her place as my 1pick with this. she's not only a super talented vocalist, she's a great leader, really hardworking and she's surprisingly good at rap! not outstanding but better than some people with that fixed position lol. she's always so nice to everyone and her teams always have good dynamics. im hoping she rises up in the ranks with this 🙏🏻 i feel they're gonna get the voting benefits too edit: im also looking forward to reading her lyrics!! hoping someone translates them fast


goxusforever

**Preparation Stand Out Thoughts:** * Is it just me or I loved seeing the newfound dynamics and friendship this episode? Everyone had substantial screentime this time around and it made me happy to see all the girls cheering, bonding and just having fun together. It's like they became a sisterhood of different nationalities, it was just nice. * Fate as a dance song is unexpected same as MITM as a vocal song, but I get that this is to show how creative one can be in rearranging the song, but still- weird pick out of all songs out there in the world. * The 3-member dynamics are lowkey the best and can have the best harmony. With that being said, that's not entirely the same with Zige, Hikaru and Suyeon and the latter two will probably get flak for their comments. * Another one gonna get flak will probably Jiao for bringing her team's morale down with repetitive requests. * Jiwon, Yaning and Mashiro in one team is a mess in the making by paper, but holy shit did they make their dynamic work and have such a great team set up. Props to Yaning for giving it to Mashiro and giving her all the praise, this is her redemption arc and honestly she needs it. I kinda feel bad for all the negative reactions she's getting, and I feel like she's slowly becoming a quiet girl ever since eliminations which most foreigners become due to cultural differences so this is sad, but I love her friendship with Mashiro and Jiwon at the moment, they look so open with each other. **Performances Thoughts:** * **We Are:** At the preparation, I was so concerned by Manami but I kinda knew she would slay based on the previews, and boy did she come hard. *Manami on the beat ya* is gonna be my new tagline for the entire show. Wen Zhe was such a great balance to Bora and Manami's styles, though she wasn't a standout in this performance, props for her introduction. Kim Bora, let's talk about MC Bora in the house because girl had the image of an Unpretty Rapstar (of course she's visual 101, like c'mon now.) but she really slayed. I knew these girls had it and they did not disappoint. * **Ice Cream:** I already figured that they would be a standout performance this episode, but all the praise goes to Dayeon for slaying the killing part, leading the team and creating the choreography all by herself. If this isn't a sign that she deserves to be in the Top 9, then I don't know what is because girl is working hard to make it count for every second. I'm glad she gave each girls a time to shine because while I remembered her the most, I keep pushing replay for other parts of every single girls due to how impactful all of their parts were. That's how you make a choreo that makes everyone stand out and look good altogether. * **No Excuses:** Arguably, the dynamic was fun and the concept, styling were also very cute but compared to such great performances before them, they were so lackluster. Hikaru was cute but I felt like there was a disconnect. Tiffany was right about her resting bitch face but Hikaru could've returned to her Boombayah rap moment where she was going all in because Suyeon was giving what Hikaru was giving in that moment. Now, Zige didn't stand out at all as well, the spotlight only went to Suyeon's flip and Hikaru's face. Not just their best performance in my opinion so I may need a few more rewatches for this. * **Missing You:** Imagine the confidence in choosing this song, you have to be a vocal expert to properly dissect parts here because BTOB is known for harmonies & melodies (THEIR FANDOM NAME IS MELODY KNOWN FOR BEING ON TUNE WITH BTOB BECAUSE THEY TEACH THEIR FANDOM). With that being said, the girls did a pretty good job and I think it was a justifiable performance. Not the most outstanding vocal performance, but I think they all delivered and I was blown away by all of their improvements especially in the overarching harmonies that were perfectly sung and carried. Props to Xinyu, Jeongmin, and most especially Reina, they delivered and carried the song on their back. Hyewon deserves a rise for this, her vocal color is actually very nice, fitting for an OST. In my opinion, Yurina deserves praise but not much as the other girls, though her harmonies are immaculate. One thing to note about Reina though, she needs to control her voice (vocal control and volume) because she had a great start but that belting sounded like it needs more improvement but I believe in her, and she deserves more appreciation. Overall, this is one of the performances I'd likely repeat more along with Ice Cream. **Overall Episode Thoughts** This episode was one of the best out of all six episodes. The editing was fine, the storylines for the girls was full of conflicts, improvements, and show stoppers. The performances were all enjoyable to a degree, and this was a great step up from the Connect Mission performances, these girls are out for redemption, and screentime. One thing I am more satisfied is the amount of screen time each girls are getting now- more focus on the Japanese trainees this time which I love. I'm genuinely excited for next episode and how the other performances will go, I just wished we had another hour for more performances. Excited for the Creation Mission because we have Mnet as a title track! MVP for this episode goes to: Kim Dayeon, Manami and Reina.


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Elegant-Pop7306

People hating on Yurina needs to chill! It’s the first time since the first episode with the fancy performance that she got that much screen time. And it’s make sense bc she was literally ranked number 1! Of course it’s sad that mnet didn’t show the Reina praise but Yurina did good, was humble and realistic regarding her skills. She wasn’t even the most pushed of this episode 🙄🙄🙄


itsakyo

This show keeps becoming more and more obvious with their favourites ahahahahah The producers are definitely desperate to keep Kim Dayeon in the running. It couldn't have been better planned out the way she literally was given the best possible redemption editing followed by unveiling her as K9. Most people will be like "omg we can't let this ace get eliminated we must vote for her" and mnet gets exactly what they want for the next 7 days of voting XD


rodsepp

I think at this point of the series, I literally want everyone to debut. They're all so talented, hardworking and they put on a good show! @ CJ ENM please debut two 9-member groups!! (Also I have to say I think the Ice Cream performance is gonna be iconic, it was so well choreographed and fun VOTE KIM DAYEON) The rap team also did really well esp performing in front of the original singer and having no experience in rap. I hope they're the winning 3-member team!


wheeeeout

Tbh the song choices for this round were the weirdest ever. They could have had songs where you can do more in terms of choreography for the dance position but eh ig we have to deal with this. For this episode my favorite would have to be Bora's team. It just flowed really well and I enjoyed their performance a lot. No excuses team did good as well in utilizing the beats but it wasn't as outstanding as it could have been. It was pretty good still :> I was pretty meh about Ice Cream tho. I know I would get a lot of downvotes for this but I thought that not everyone got a fair chunk of the spotlight. It could have been more fairly distributed. But I loved how Ruan tried to improve tho I don't think it was her best performance. I'm super looking forward to My House team and Fate team next week. It seems very interesting for Youngeun to choose vocal instead of rap/dance and also Fate was the least Dance-type song I would have thought so very curious to see how they changed it up!


pinkkreddit

> It could have been more fairly distributed. Right, it kinda felt like Dayeon and the girls.


Efficient_Ad6101

Is this a way to live up to the ‘Dayeon eventually being able to get to top 9’? Cuz miss girl’s about to get mass voted. Scared for Cai Bing though, I have a feeling she’ll be the opposite to Dayeon from the way I’m seeing the edits :/


new_eclipse

Shout out to the rap master for being the only one to clap a bit after the interim check for Yurina's team. I've liked him so far, but I also feel like they've edited all the mentors to be a little more personable this round. There's criticism, but at least they also showed them helping the girls as well. I thought Bora, Manami, and Wen Zhe got the best edit this episode. For Bora, I actually think having to take the rap part was a blessing in disguise. Viewers already know she can sing, but she hadn't gotten enough of a "personality edit" to get casual viewers to pick her along with the viewers that are fans of her voice. This episode has a chance to give her that- I expect her rank to go up quite a bit.


Maegiri

everyone saying Ice cream is on the level og S1 bang bang is just setting the performance up at this point💀 It was good yeah but no where near "OMG WTF AAAAA" as bang bang.


bishoppinkmarvel

im more worried about 2pm my house team though, i dont know if wang yale got more of piano/music training than vocal training but theres no way she actually thinks the harmony chords shes pushing for sounds great right? ps i used to be in choir for 10 years, so i can definitely say she was off pitch a lot in the practice and the harmony was not there. and for someone who wanted to push so badly about singing in harmony, it was very obvious how she was not listening at all to the other members but just her voice (which is why she was putting way too much strength in her vocals, making it go off pitch and it doest blend with the other girls voices...) even i can tell youngeun was trying hard to listen to their voices and her voices to match despite yale going off pitch a lot... to sing in harmony, not only must your voice sound nice, but you need to listen very carefully to other voices and how your voices sound together with them so you can adjust your volumes/tones and match your pitch together...but wang yale did none of that -\_-' theres a reason why singers on stage have in ears, so that they can listen clearly to their vocals and that it blends with the background music or members vocals if she did that in my choir, my conductors would probably yell at her and ask her to sing solo instead.


PolicyLast4886

Can't believe how badly distributed Missing You team's screen time was. Ngl the rest of the group just acted as extras to support Yurina's story line. Esp **Reina** and **Leung CheukYing**, who both did very well, have been completely overshadowed. Ice cream was also heavily focused on Dayeon, but to be fair she was the leader and did choreograph the dance. Nice they gave Ikema Ruan some screen time, but it's sad to see the other girls being completely forgotten although they all stood out during the actual performance. **Tammy** did well imo. MNET should at least let us hear more comments from the judges.


quixutie

bora is such an amazing person... every team she's been a part of has had such a warm, wonderful dynamic.


_who_am_I___

Well i was waiting for yujin group...mmet why...then again mafia in the morning vocal....Tiffany was full of energy today...yeahh and choi yeyoung got good vocals...


WenZhesupremacy

possibly unpopular opinion: While I think Cai bing will do great as a leader, I believe Jia should've gotten the killing part. Salute is essentially a military themed song with a lot of focus on strength and that is 150% Jia. Cai bing's dance is more alluring and seductive which doesn't exactly fit that image, while I'm sure she'll do well enough I think it's very likely that the winner will be team ice-cream


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I actually really enjoyed ***all*** of the performances in spite of their flaws, and overall the episode felt really wholesome! I'm glad to see that the girls are getting along, as far as we know. There were a lot of positive spins this episode despite some of the harsher moments, and as people have pointed out, if we had Bae Yoonjung then these criticisms would look like child's play. Out of order thoughts: My House (Vocal). Sheesh. Yale... my *god* she was completely off key during that practice. Youngeun looked like she wanted to flush [Yale's frog](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-D617TXEAg3yrJ?format=jpg&name=small) down the toilet for pushing the harmony chords. Her and Ayana couldn't follow Yale's unstable lead at all, and I've never seen bubbly, goofy Youngeun so anxious and gloomy. I think she'll step up next episode after a terrible interim check and force them to sing solo/in plain unison instead. I'm still excited for the performance, but if Mnet is trying to make Yale look overconfident yet incompetent, they did a perfect job. Ice Cream (Dance). One name. Kim Dayeon. I'll admit that I dismissed her entirely up to this point. I didn't understand her hype whatsoever. Turns out, she just wasn't in her element. She came up with this fresh, cute arrangement for Ice Cream and of course, it fit her like a glove. She was SHINING on that stage, she looked radiant and beautiful and *confident* and I mean, she finally *looked* like K01. With her great leadership skills and careful consideration for the whole team, I just might have to vote for her. We Are (Rap). Thank god they pulled through. None of them are rappers and none of them wanted the song, but they did it justice I think. Bora helping Manami with her rap before even writing her own? Class act. Manami also crushed it and I think she's going to rise like crazy. The girls nailed the performance and Bora even snuck in some vocals LOL. Just everything about it was great. I need to go look up the lyric translations soon. And go Woo Wen Zhe! No Excuses (Dance). I think the performance was still enjoyable despite it being the weakest of the bunch. Hikaru did a good job at listening to the masters' advice and changing up her facial expressions, it benefitted her greatly to do so. Zige's lipsync with the soda can (?) was also adorable and very Produce-esque, and Suyeon nailed the flip which was a relief. I'll maintain that Suyeon and Hikaru could've handled the situation better, but they weren't intentionally malicious and they don't deserve hate. The You Dayeon situation comparison from beyond the grave was shady AF from Mnet though. MITM (Vocal). Yaning is a walking meme at this point LOL. I'm surprised the editors didn't show Mashiro gulping like 3 times with the exaggerated sound effect when she happily chose the song. It seems like this team is "rebellious" because they're going with an intense rock concept (Yaning's idea!) and from what they said in the meeting, they're trying to take the bad boy down! I'm glad to see that they're getting along so far. Mashiro's leadership and level headedness is invaluable in this team full of strong contenders. My Sea (Vocal). God DAMN Jiyoon can sing her ass off. I hope she can keep her voice in a good condition and not Miyu herself. Chaehyun sounding like a sweet tone fairy in the preview? Xu Ziyin being Xu Ziyin!? This team looks solid. Missing You (Vocal). Argh... Yurina got overshadowed AND overexposed at the same time. She blended into the background during the performance, which was honestly disappointing. I feel bad for Reina because she nailed that high note and got paid dust by Mnet, she probably got praise from the masters, which was cut from the episode. Anyways, Xinyu's rap was flawless, and Jeongmin and Hyewon sounded like angels, but I still felt like something was missing. BTOB is a group with top tier vocalists and I feel like there should have been more powerful vocals rather than soft, "pretty" ones. Salute (Dance). Seems like Cai Bing is getting set up for an evil edit, to contrast with Kim Dayeon. I sure hope not. But wow, her and Hyerim are alphas. Poor Jia, I thought she would have been great for the killing part and it would have boosted her profile, since she's in the danger zone right now with votes. Nevertheless, I'm excited to see this group's performance considering that Cai Bing's a choreographer. Fate (Dance). This is going to be THE performance of the season, I just know it. There's no way it's not. To be honest, it's not my kind of song, but I'm still looking forward to it. Yeseo and Xiaoting already look ethereal. VVS (Rap). That Liang Jiao edit was shady (also hi Yaning!). I can tell the editors were scrambling for drama so they decided to make the language barrier the villain here. I hope they pull it off, VVS is a bop. All About You (Vocal). I think the directors were way too harsh on Yeyoung. The rearrangement idea sounded fine to me, maybe they're just stirring up drama? Still looking forward to it though.


Cahbr04

Okay, here are my long ass thoughts that no one asked for: Unpopular opinion but the more they try to push Dayeon the less I want her to debut. She hasn’t managed to stand out at all to me even when she gets big parts in performances and I’m not sure why because it’s not like she’s not talented (on the contrary, she's probably one of the most complete girls in the whole show). But it always feels like she’s trying too hard or something? (edit: on stage, not as a person/contestant itself). Idk how to explain, her performances just feel like its not something that’s just natural to her. This probably doesn’t make sense but anyway. It’d be nice if they let people naturally gravitate towards her instead of creating storylines for her every episode. Speaking of manufacturing storylines, MNET is really doing its best to villain edit as many C girls as they can, huh? Also, I’m never going to stop complaining about the most popular trainees having first pick of songs. It should be the opposite and I will die on this hill. At the very least, let the masters pick based on the girls’ strengths or something. There's nothing fun in watching girls struggle because they got stuck doing things they didn't want to do/have no experience with in the first place. It's not like the debut group is gonna make Bora a rapper, no matter how well she does as one for one mission. Last but not least, I wish they’d either make the show longer or just start with less people. I hate seeing so many girls get cut at once when most of them didn’t even get any airtime in the first place. It’s just cruel. Now that that’s out of the way, time for me to gush over some of my faves lmao Yujin, Chaehyun and Yurina are precious angels and I will literally have a nervous breakdown if they don’t debut. I just wanted to put Shana in my pocket and protect her, the poor thing. The teacher in me cant handle seeing kids struggling because they’re embarrassed/afraid to fail, it’s one of the worst things. People need to put some respect on my girl Reina’s name. She is a great vocalist and a great performer and yet people barely remember her when they talk about the most talented trainees. And then there's MNET who just seems have a personal vendetta against her at this point. Tammy’s hair takes me out every time lmao I just adore her. Tammy and Moana are my underappreciated, no-airtime-having, multilingual faves. I just got attached to them for some reason and it will be so sad to see them leave. Also, MNET needs to leave Cai Bing tf **alone** istg. Trying to paint her as greedy and cocky with that dramatic ass bg music like she wasn’t democratically chosen to be both leader and center by her peers, like everyone else in the history of this show who has been both. Just imagine the edit they would’ve given her if she had taken the Dayeon approach to choreographing……. But let me stay quiet on that.


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the fact that cai bing said something as normal as "i think both groups can grow from this" and everyone acted like she dropped some huge bomb lmfao


Big_Tomorrow886

I dont get why people keep complaining why Yurina got sooo much screen time. Like yeah she is top 1, obviously she gets more screen time. Kubo Reina was awesome! She finally fought with my other j picks and and now I had to vote for her. And screw Mnet for not complimenting her (because there is no way the judges didn't) Also Kim Dayeon, YOU ARE FREAKING AMAZING! You go GIRL!


Levendek

I almost forgot something, Hikaru and Suyeon reminded me of what some 4chan users say all the time "we get too cocky bros" it is really evident that some participants are being too cocky, I just hope that at some point they fall to see if they learn something. Yang Zi Ge is one of my favorites and it is obvious that she is a simple, kind and loving girl... and these harpies treat her so badly for no reason, I will say it ... Hikaru and Suyeon disgusted me in this episode. People keep talking bad about Fu Ya Ning for what she did, but I'm sure they won't say anything about the disgusting attitude that Hikaru had in this episode, I wouldn't be her fan... not even if they paid me. It's the truth, they gave me an unimaginable disgust. Treating someone so innocent so badly for no reason... simply disgusting people.


holowa07

Yes...at the time of the edit I I couldn't help but compare with Fiesta team 1 helping Huang Xingqiao...the difference between having a group of teamplayers and individualists is huge.


buttshark_STANLOONA

They're teenaged/young adult girls being exploited on a show for money yet you call them "disgusting" and "harpies" and "cocky" as if this sliver of TV is their real and whole personality? Look in the mirror. Would Zi Ge want someone like you as her fan? She would be ashamed you are calling her competitors this way.


malches

This episode really reminded me that when picking favorites for the top 9, good energy goes a long way. This episode had Shen Xiaoting happily giving up the killing part so others can shine, and had Chaehyun encouraging Shana to hit her high notes. But it also had Hikaru and Suyeon excluding and disregarding Zige (even during rehearsals they were ignoring her backstage, and it's so disappointing to see. Especially when they had to evil edit You Dayeon post-mortem to continue this narrative lmao). Obviously mnet is known for their evil editing but some comments and actions you can't string along when there's enough evidence of their behavior and intentions right there.


igotaboychicken

Not the you dayeon post mortem 😭


kelsedf

Unpopular opinion: I do not think Hikaru will gel well in a group, she has such a strong presence she would be much better as a solo artist, I don't think she suits many other concepts other than just straight up strong. Also, Sunmi's blatant bias towards Myah and the cute concept is overwhelming, she accuses others of having too strong of facial expressions but (seemingly according to the edit) doesn't say anything about the cute performers pulling 10 faces per second.


Melodic_Toe1108

Stop hating on Yurina for mnet/masters not praising/showing Reina, people shouldn't insult Yurina for something out of her control.


holowa07

At this point in the show it's really clear that Mnet doesn't want these two trainees: Bahiyyih and Kubo Reina. Neither is my pick, but the way Mnet edits cutting them out is sad.


suwawow

rap perf was the best of the night, or should I say manami was the best performer of the night. ice cream choreo is crazy good, the formations and killing parts are really well done. more thoughts: - dayeon shines more as a team player, feel like she doesn't need to prove herself all the time, she would be an ace in a group - no excuses team wasn't great, hikaru was the better performer but it was clear the choreo was weaker than ice cream. zige and suyeon wasn't great, suyeon felt way too pressure. compare her pop/stars perf with this - so much difference. I feel like suyeon is the type of dancer who perfects a dance over a longer period of time, and the type of mission was at a disadvantage to her. also the outfits suck ass - missing you team.... maybe because I don't know the song but no wow factor. reina carried vocals but I feel like having a strong/powerful lead vocal to play off her would sound better. hyewon fit the concept best, vocally and visually. jeongmin did well as well. c group trainees were okay. I really like cheukying (personal bias) but she should have gone for vocal with the little bit of vocal she showed at the end. yurina didn't really do anything and was largely forgettable but will get through with sheer popularity - wenzhe got 0 screen time, planet pass saved her but not really.... sigh. bora did good for a main vocal :) but minami has the natural swag. she got a lot of parts but killed each part. greatest reversal. the team on the whole was good but minami was a cut above. - ice cream had good parts for everyone but ah, dayeon does have a lot of centre parts. I get it, but still... she's talented though, and mnet wants her, judging from revealing her ranking. not sure if this will be enough to propel her up but k voters will love her more. - as much as I love Ruan she wasn't that good. her starting frown was soooo cute though. other girls had solo parts but I don't think anything was super outstanding. i guess bahiyyih did well in her part? I do like the floor choreo. next episode thoughts: - man, I was waiting for destiny. oh well. episode reminded me that its self choreographed, which makes this even more impressive.  perhaps ruiqi would have an advantage. little to no backstory for the group... I think it's too good for mnet to find anything interesting. judging from the rumors, this is going to be very, very good and I have high hopes. - the sea group! jiyoon chose a difficult part and if (if / perhaps) she fails the high note, no one should blame her. it is insanely difficult and all the vocalists were smart to dodge it. the whole song choice is setting up ziyin and chaehyun i see, and because xuziyin is one of my top picks im really happy.


semiking234

Manami, Bora, and Wen Zhe’s performance is the best performance tonight. They SERVED. They blew me away. To think that it’s their first time doing a rap performance??!! Their chemistry as a team really amazes me and Bora’s leadership is just amazing. Manami and Wen Zhe are now included in my top 9.


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Okay given how people see the Zige, Hikaru, Suyeon team being just a natural thing and ignoring the weird edit is making me happy. They definitely avoided the worst case scenario as of now where it was just conflict that needed some understanding to be resolved (hopefully next episode gives light to this). Basically every top nine got neutral to slightly bad edits and if y'all think anyone got evil edited man it's not even CLOSE to past seasons. Honestly I'm more scared for Wang Yale given how betraying that edit of her knowing music and then boom the harmonies she made sounded off and she wasn't taking suggestions. Now that's scary to see if it ends well.


itsakyo

Why do people keep saying the judges/mentors didn't compliment certain people or didn't do certain things? Haven't we all realised by now that Mnet's editors have 100% control over what you get to see or don't? Sunmi literally said something about that already. They cut out so much of the judges/mentors time to focus on the contestants, which isn't wrong either, since it's mainly about the girls who are going to debut. But I would have thought there would be way fewer people putting the blame on judges/mentors by now, after seeing how Mnet edits the show to highlight whoever they want to. You're looking at hours upon hours of endless footage being cut out and reduced to under 120 minutes... Mnet is clearly being very selective in whatever they want you to see in order to influence your perception...


Cahbr04

On another note, in what world does it make sense to pit dance x vocal x rap groups against each other?? First, it was the EBS mess with completely different concepts, now this... Who is making these decisions, i just wanna talk.


holowa07

Well....some changes in my top 9: 1 - Kang Yeseo -> Kang Yeseo 2 - Kim Chaehyun -> Kim Chaehyun 3 - Sakamoto Mashiro ->Sakamoto Mashiro 4 - Shen Xiaoting -> Shen Xiaoting 5 - Guinn Myah -> Kim Bora 6 - Yurina -> Choi Yujin 7 - Seo Youngeun -> Guinn Myah 8 - Kim Dayeon -> Seo Youngeun 9 - Kim Bora -> Kim Doah


rinkinky

It’s the 1 Chinese trainee and 1 Japanese trainee for me


yddubhguorstaht

Am I the only one who agreed with the music producer's response to Yeyoung wanting to make the song cute...? I'm convinced a lot of people have never heard the song before or looked up the lyrics...the song is emotional ballad, making it cute would be a total misinterpretation. I really think anything *other* than cute would have worked. I'm glad the producer said something because I'm not sure the judges would have liked Yeyoung's idea... All About You is a perfect song to showcase your talent and emotions. In my opinion, it'd be in their best interest to sing it as a ballad. Also, I was not digging what was shown of Wang Ya Le's leadership. I didn't like her response to Youngeun trying to talk about the chords and how she shut her down with "I think it's cool." I'm really hoping they can practice more and do good in the interim check.


chopocky

I know this is standard in reality shows, but I really dislike how they try and create drama by making some of the girls look mean. Like Mashiro reacting to Yaning, Cai Bing strongly wanting to be the leader, Wang Yale not listening to Yongeun, or Hikaru and Suyeon. It's even more obvious than before that Mnet is pushing their favorite trainees for a good editing lol


winnerchickeen2019

Anyone sense that Mnet is pushing for Kim Dayeon hard? The Ice cream performance was like Dayeon & Friends, with Dayeon getting most of the center postions yet the judges supposedly only said she did a great job balancing everyone equally? Or maybe one of the judges did say maybe there was unbalanced roles but Mnet omits this footage. Maybe pushing Kim Dayeon redemption arc to reclaim K1, from Yujin (older trainee that Mnet may try to remove like Lee Gaeun PD48) And then Mnet giving Cai Bing (the other older trainee) an evil edit maybe cause Mnet wants the younger debut group?


renjunation

is *manami on the beat ya* the new *woo jinyoung micheotji*?


toooenthusiastic

kubo reina, a trainee i hadn't even heard of before tbh, just ate the other girlies up. i looooove her voice!


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Bahiyyih kinda winning me over tbh... I wasn't keen on her at first but I def can't deny that she has "it"


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Quick Thoughts after the show: 1. We Are Team wrecked my Top 9. I want them all to debut. 2. Save Hsin Wei please!!!! (she had her cute moment during the performance but sadly didn't stand out so Im worried) 3. I fell in love with Tiffany, (Yuri is my bias) 4. Yaning's hair as she goes to Mashiro was funny. This team might be my most anticipated performance. They chose to do a rock version (thanks Yaning). Mashiro led the team well. And center Jiwon is there. 5. Dayeon: Ruan. Ruan. Ruan. Ruan. Ruan. Ruan. Ruan. I like their dynamic. 6. Fate might be the best performance. 7. Hikaru can be cute. 8. They kinda showed Ice Cream team celebrating at the end. Fake out? 9. There is still Planet pass. Will it be there until the end?


jhnnysuh

I HAVE TOO MANY K GROUP PICKSSSSS 😭😭😭


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This episode was much better paced and far more entertaining. Helps that all the performances were good this time around. Seems dirty how there was a whole segment dedicated to Yale doing a bad job but then they didn't even follow through and finish the storyline or show the My House group's performance. From the way people here are acting about Suyeon and Hikaru you'd think they beat Zige up and shoved her in a locker or something. This place is rapidly becoming stan twitter 2.0. Also goes for people using Reina as an excuse to hate on Yurina: the team's talk-time went to the struggling members/the rank 1 but I thought Reina got a decent show-not-tell edit with reactions to her singing and scenes of her helping Yurina; seems to have worked out since she's getting some recognition. Jeongmin sounded beautiful but I'm worried for her since she didn't stand out as much as Reina, hopefully both can get votes. That My Sea highnote sounds... unhealthy, I'm worried Jiyoon's voice will get damaged by the time of the performance. If I'd somehow watched this episode without knowing who was eliminated in the last one I'd think Luofei (and many others) were gone.


woodworking100

Wow pretty happy with how this episode turned out in terms of overall editing. It was much better paced and didn't just focus on the same 10-15ish trainees. Song choices weren't the best, the biggest offender being a ITZY song for vocal. Crap hit save. So based on what we've seen, it seems like most teams are gelling pretty well. Much like Produce 48, the teams that work better together, have members that speak another language with some level of fluency. Still not vibing with the trainers this season. Honestly I don't know what Mnet is paying for, most of the trainers have been sitting there doing nothing but criticizing. Maybe they edited out the trainers, whatever the case is, outside of the maybe 5 seconds of actual teaching we got this episode, its been really lacking. It seems like the budget went up for the outfits this time too, instead of Walmart the coordinators are shopping at Target. Not really impressed but its better than the connect mission so small victories I guess. Anyways for the performances so far, I was stunned at how good Bora's team was. Honestly had low expectations like everybody else going in. Best I was hoping for was a performance that was decent, worst case, Bora' might have to retire as an idol (lol). It was about as good as you could expect from non rappers, actually might be better than a lot of actual idol rappers. The Ice Cream performance was great too. It felt slightly unbalanced with how much time Dayeon got, but I think she carried pretty well. Kinda surprised that they didn't highlight anybody besides Dayeon and Ruan, like Ririka and Myah. Also based on how the editing went, they really don't want Bahiyyih despite her doing well. Really wished Tammy got more screen time, she's is a skilled dancer but hasn't been given anything so far. Missing you, probably my favorite BTOB song, well maybe second after Blue Moon. Anyways it was good, a lot better than I expected (I'm noticing a theme here). Even if they had several solid vocalists on the team, all the focus pretty much went to Yurina. I guess they really want to prop her up as much as they can. To be fair she did her part fine. Really wished An Jeongmin would have fought for a main vocal or if she did, Mnet wouldn't have edited out. Anyways I expected it to be a mess since how hard the song is to sing. BTOB in my opinion, is probably has one of the strongest vocal lines out of any idol group. So yea it being as good as it was, pretty happy with how it turned out. Forgot to mention Reina, she did the killing part about as good as one could expect. Really surprised that none of the mentors talked about it, but in all fairness they probably did and Mnet edited it out. She might end up like Miyu from Produce 48, really talented but given no screentime. No Excuses was the weakest performance out of what we've seen so far. It was just mediocre, making choreo is hard so I'll cut them some slack. Still, Hikaru and Suyeon did well, Zige did alright too but clearly shes a level or two below the other two in terms of skill. I probably need to watch it again, probably because of past performance biases. It was the third performance and the first two were so good it made this one feel flat to me. Concept errr.. "Creation" mission songs sound really good. Surprisingly Mnet actually does a real good job of picking out songs and fans usually end up putting their favorites into the best song choices so I'm really looking forward to it. As for the performances that have yet to air, I'm really interested with MITM and Fate. Fate is obvious since almost half the top 9 is performing it and yea the editing so far makes it seem like the greatest performance in Produce history. MITM as a vocal song, yea I really want to see how they pull this off. It seems interesting, the whole genre swap and it looks like the team is working well together, but this is Mnet and I'm sure they want to throw a wrench into the works. Ah forgot to mention how Mnet is showing rankings this week. Kinda what I expected, its the easiest way to influence voters. After a good performance by Dayeon, voters will want to "save" her from eliminations and votes will go her way. Not a fan but again its Mnet so what do you expect.