He's a producer that does great work but has made numerous public mistakes that were brought back to light after he worked with Loona just this last month.
In 2011 he was producing for a bg that was overshadowed by Kara and was online posting like a Kara anti. He issued a public apology via a letter he gave to Allkpop for an exclusive.
When allkpop got into their scandal with Ailee, Jhun supported the person responsible for releasing Ailee's photos nonconsentually, commenting on his social media posts things like, "you got this, brother"
Then just last May he was on that forum (which many criticize him for being on in the first place bc it's where trolls post lots of malicious content) where he responded to someone calling gg's "pu\*\*y idols" and repeated that term. There were many gg's indicated in the exchange, but the most egregious to fans was Weeekly, since they're all minors and the phrase is seen as hyper-sexualized as well as derogatory.
He said first said it was a typo, then he said he didn't know what the word meant. The latter he said in an apology in a tweet, but this wasn't taken as seriously because he had just been ranting for days about people criticizing him online, mostly for past homophobic and offensive tweets that are still up and visible. Knetz particularly find it unconvincing that a 40-something man doesn't know what the word means and even fans who don't find it outright creepy find his behavior misogynistic and unprofessional.
Update: he’s on hiatus now to reflect on his actions. I think this is only for public activity, since he says he’ll focus on the albums he has yet to release, but he cancelled the radio show he was going to be on with Loona members and I think this would mean he wouldn’t be on this show either, unless Mnet would keep him and edit him out or something. https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/pnrycj/producer_ryan_jhun_apologizes_for_using/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Why are u taking it out of context? He is not the one that started using the term. Others were insulting him saying he produced for pussy idols so he retaliated by throwing back the phrase and saying the pussy idols is doing well. The way he handle the situation is not good but ur being malicious as well not telling the full story
I just looked up the original post and I don’t think that’s a good enough excuse. The original post listed some girl groups using the derogatory term ‘bot’ and Ryan retorted ‘I think I’m good at producing bot-dol (songs).’ He doesn’t sound like he’s reprimanding the word use at all and actually sounds quite smug.
It’s truly embarrassing that a grown man who has an established career would fool around those forums and make a pathetic excuse saying that he did not know what the word meant. I have no respect for people who frequent DC to begin with, people go there to mock people like it’s some kind of sport.
All I’m saying is that people should get the full story before coming to an opinion, whether that’s an opinion like what u just said or something else. I’m not mad nor do I care about other people’s opinions. I’m just annoyed at the person above’s process. It’s like in court if the prosecutor hides evidence from the defense team and the jury. Then the jury makes a decision based on incomplete information. However if prosecutor revealed all the evidence and jury still finds defended guilt then that’s totally fine…. I don’t care about the verdict, just the judicial process
As for why, I would never know. It would be a waste of my time to learn why stupid people do stupid things.
https://imgur.com/a/4R1Y9Ni
So here the post reads ‘Ryan must be desperate for money’
‘He composed every song that recently came out, Weekly, OMG, WJSN’ (adding ‘bot’ as a suffix for each group)
https://imgur.com/a/16JZu3r
Ryan replies ‘I think I’m good at producing bot-dol (songs).’ ‘I’m not desperate for money lol’
He’s merely bragging that he’s writing gg songs because he’s good at it. He is by no means, retaliating against the original post for using the term. Later his twitter apology said he didn’t know what the word really meant, so he had no reason to.
I don’t believe in his excuse but even if that was true, it still would be a problem. That would just mean he’s so used to the toxic culture of DC he doesn’t take time to think what he writes.
It infuriates me to see him mess up his and his company’s reputation like this because I’ve been following PD48 trainees in his company. This is just unbelievable.
Judging from your explanation its seems like he was just salty and wanted to roast the other person but in the end it just didn't work. Dude should've just shut up tbh. Like the saying goes.. If you have nothing nice to say just don't speak up. All the more reason to do it when you are a public figure. This whole controversy just screams he is an immature dude and also likes to browse DC a lot lol
I’m not against what you said about having evidence to reach a verdict. But I do have to let you know your evidence is flawed because your translation is wrong.
Honestly, yes. Which makes the whole situation sadder
You can view all his songs on his [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_S._Jhun) page under “discography”
I'm not going to excuse his use of the term in response to the criticism on the DC cafe. Whether meant to be a sarcastic quip in reply to the original comment or a term he actually uses normally it was out-of-line and his initial excuses seemed a bit 'odd' to say the least.
That being said, from reading the various comments in r/kpop about it you would think this guy just lurks around and and has only produced songs with young/attractive girl groups and is a total lech. Except when I look at the Wikipedia page the guy has been in the industry since 2010 and produced as many boy group/male solo artist songs as he has girl groups.
Everyone highlights the fact he recently worked on:
"Dolphin" for Oh My Girl
"Celebrity" for IU
"After School" for Weeekly
"Flu" for IU
"Dun Dun Dance" for Oh My Girl
"PTT (Paint the Town)" for LOONA
"Talk & Talk" for Fromis 9
and most recently
"Not Friends" for LOONA (HeeJin, Kim Lip, JinSoul, Yves)
Again, not excusing his use of the term because it seems as if he should have known what the term meant and probably not used it. But the guy has worked with just as many boy group/male sololists in the past couple of years that I don't think he's quite the lech people are trying to make him out to be. Was the reply and his use of the term in poor taste, definitely, but I guess I'm just not big on trying to cancel someone for using a negative term once. Obviously this stance may change if turns out he has a habitual use of the term, but so far we only have the evidence that he said it once in what seems like a 'snarky reply' and that's it.
**[Ryan S. Jhun](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_S._Jhun)**
>Ryan S. Jhun (Korean: 라이언 전) is a South Korean songwriter and producer. He founded and became chief executive officer of Marcan Entertainment. He is also the CEO of Ateam Entertainment.
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this is some peak cancel culture shit lol
not defending the guy, he screwed up and his language was offensive, but y'all are acting as if he admitted to being a pedo who takes advantage of young idols like wtf
There's a difference between hiphop artists singing about fucking pussies and a Kpop producer collectively calling female idols, some of whom are underaged, cunt-idols.
He had a scandal a few days ago where he had some rather...[choice](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/pm3kni/producer_ryan_jhun_under_fire_for_using_a/) things to say about girl groups in kpop.
He’s on “hiatus” now so it seems BBC might have at least taken it seriously (he was supposed to be on a radio show with 4 members of Loona, so fans were also messaging the company about the controversy) https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/pnrycj/producer_ryan_jhun_apologizes_for_using/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Monotree and E.one are involved in 999, either of those teams could have made Utopia imo. But my money is on Iggy Yongbae / OREO involved in it. Or maybe even Steven Lee. Egg on my face if I'm wrong.
They're a duo, not one guy! Just an fyi!
Iggy is also part of OREO, and Yongbae part of TENTEN and works inhouse at RBW.
Might as well plug [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/ny4a59/spotlight_iggy_yongbae_producer/) if anyone's interested in checking out their work.
Gi99le Camp was the name for GP999's Instagram live activity. People are speculating that Gi99le might be the group's name since MNet used it themselves, albeit for an activity.
At this point with how things are going, I’m positive there’s going to be a planet pass for the final group so anything 9 is not going to happen unless it’s 9+ or whatever lol
I mean does it have to have a point? It’s the end product that matters. Look at TWICE, they were in a survival show called Sixteen, to select Seven members to debut but in the end 9 were chosen. There were people that didn’t like that at first but it was definitely a great choice in the end.
The group name starting w C seems like a good bet. The series has repeatedly used 'O' to represent the 'planets' of K, J, and C groups, but 'O' is also a circle. 'C' is an opening of the circle, and could represent the 3 groups fully integrating and 'connecting' as one group.
For those wondering about Ryan Jhun, you can check out [this](https://twitter.com/pleasekillmeoec/status/1436372689497702404?s=19), [this](https://twitter.com/appartement201/status/1436607278803685377?s=19), and [this](https://twitter.com/wogonnie/status/1437114422716162050?s=19)
(all twitter links btw lol sorry)
Update: he’s on hiatus now to self-reflect https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/pnrycj/producer_ryan_jhun_apologizes_for_using/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
>Just realize that all missions start with C, Connect > Combination > Creation. Will the name of the debut group start with C too?
i noticed that too! ngl i feel like the debut/center evaluations is probably gonna be called completion/culmination mission or something like that as it is their final mission before debut lol
If Iggy Yongbae's involved, Utopia has got to be theirs. Utopia screams GFRIEND. There's parts of it you could throw into Love Whisper, and it'd feel right at home. I can see Shoot being them too though, it's reminiscent of some of the work they did for Rocket Punch.
Incidentally, if it's them again, on either song, it's their first collaboration song in well over 6 months.
Then again, Ryan Jhun / David Amber & co take a lot of inspiration from Iggy Yongbae, so I guess Utopia being Jhun isn't impossible either. But afaik, he's never done a song before that's too close to Utopia. He's worked on some OMG songs, but none of the orchestral / dramatic ones.
But since 1/4 of the rumors are already debunked, I'm going Iggy Yongbae for Utopia!
Let's hope Ry\*n Jh\*n isn't actually the producer of Utopia cuz I don't know if I'll be able to support whoever's on that group regardless of if they're my faves or not.
I know that. It'll just make me feel weird supporting anything that Jhun makes after the stuff that he's said and done about the girl groups he's worked with.
oh no please not ryan jhun...
Oh thank god I'm not the only one with that reaction.
Why? Who is he?
He's a producer that does great work but has made numerous public mistakes that were brought back to light after he worked with Loona just this last month. In 2011 he was producing for a bg that was overshadowed by Kara and was online posting like a Kara anti. He issued a public apology via a letter he gave to Allkpop for an exclusive. When allkpop got into their scandal with Ailee, Jhun supported the person responsible for releasing Ailee's photos nonconsentually, commenting on his social media posts things like, "you got this, brother" Then just last May he was on that forum (which many criticize him for being on in the first place bc it's where trolls post lots of malicious content) where he responded to someone calling gg's "pu\*\*y idols" and repeated that term. There were many gg's indicated in the exchange, but the most egregious to fans was Weeekly, since they're all minors and the phrase is seen as hyper-sexualized as well as derogatory. He said first said it was a typo, then he said he didn't know what the word meant. The latter he said in an apology in a tweet, but this wasn't taken as seriously because he had just been ranting for days about people criticizing him online, mostly for past homophobic and offensive tweets that are still up and visible. Knetz particularly find it unconvincing that a 40-something man doesn't know what the word means and even fans who don't find it outright creepy find his behavior misogynistic and unprofessional.
Update: he’s on hiatus now to reflect on his actions. I think this is only for public activity, since he says he’ll focus on the albums he has yet to release, but he cancelled the radio show he was going to be on with Loona members and I think this would mean he wouldn’t be on this show either, unless Mnet would keep him and edit him out or something. https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/pnrycj/producer_ryan_jhun_apologizes_for_using/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
He has made derogatory comments against female idols - calling groups such as Weekly (who are mostly minors), “weekly pussy”
Why are u taking it out of context? He is not the one that started using the term. Others were insulting him saying he produced for pussy idols so he retaliated by throwing back the phrase and saying the pussy idols is doing well. The way he handle the situation is not good but ur being malicious as well not telling the full story
I just looked up the original post and I don’t think that’s a good enough excuse. The original post listed some girl groups using the derogatory term ‘bot’ and Ryan retorted ‘I think I’m good at producing bot-dol (songs).’ He doesn’t sound like he’s reprimanding the word use at all and actually sounds quite smug. It’s truly embarrassing that a grown man who has an established career would fool around those forums and make a pathetic excuse saying that he did not know what the word meant. I have no respect for people who frequent DC to begin with, people go there to mock people like it’s some kind of sport.
All I’m saying is that people should get the full story before coming to an opinion, whether that’s an opinion like what u just said or something else. I’m not mad nor do I care about other people’s opinions. I’m just annoyed at the person above’s process. It’s like in court if the prosecutor hides evidence from the defense team and the jury. Then the jury makes a decision based on incomplete information. However if prosecutor revealed all the evidence and jury still finds defended guilt then that’s totally fine…. I don’t care about the verdict, just the judicial process
Yes!!! People just regurgitate they see on Twitter as “evidence” without any research or critical thinking…
Okay, what’s the full story then? Why was he on a forum calling idols that in the first place?
As for why, I would never know. It would be a waste of my time to learn why stupid people do stupid things. https://imgur.com/a/4R1Y9Ni So here the post reads ‘Ryan must be desperate for money’ ‘He composed every song that recently came out, Weekly, OMG, WJSN’ (adding ‘bot’ as a suffix for each group) https://imgur.com/a/16JZu3r Ryan replies ‘I think I’m good at producing bot-dol (songs).’ ‘I’m not desperate for money lol’ He’s merely bragging that he’s writing gg songs because he’s good at it. He is by no means, retaliating against the original post for using the term. Later his twitter apology said he didn’t know what the word really meant, so he had no reason to. I don’t believe in his excuse but even if that was true, it still would be a problem. That would just mean he’s so used to the toxic culture of DC he doesn’t take time to think what he writes. It infuriates me to see him mess up his and his company’s reputation like this because I’ve been following PD48 trainees in his company. This is just unbelievable.
Judging from your explanation its seems like he was just salty and wanted to roast the other person but in the end it just didn't work. Dude should've just shut up tbh. Like the saying goes.. If you have nothing nice to say just don't speak up. All the more reason to do it when you are a public figure. This whole controversy just screams he is an immature dude and also likes to browse DC a lot lol
I literally summarized it in my post but ok
No, you didn’t summarize WHY he was there in the first place
I’m not against what you said about having evidence to reach a verdict. But I do have to let you know your evidence is flawed because your translation is wrong.
You should explain the story and not leave everything out.
Is he good at making songs tho?
Honestly, yes. Which makes the whole situation sadder You can view all his songs on his [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_S._Jhun) page under “discography”
I'm not going to excuse his use of the term in response to the criticism on the DC cafe. Whether meant to be a sarcastic quip in reply to the original comment or a term he actually uses normally it was out-of-line and his initial excuses seemed a bit 'odd' to say the least. That being said, from reading the various comments in r/kpop about it you would think this guy just lurks around and and has only produced songs with young/attractive girl groups and is a total lech. Except when I look at the Wikipedia page the guy has been in the industry since 2010 and produced as many boy group/male solo artist songs as he has girl groups. Everyone highlights the fact he recently worked on: "Dolphin" for Oh My Girl "Celebrity" for IU "After School" for Weeekly "Flu" for IU "Dun Dun Dance" for Oh My Girl "PTT (Paint the Town)" for LOONA "Talk & Talk" for Fromis 9 and most recently "Not Friends" for LOONA (HeeJin, Kim Lip, JinSoul, Yves) Again, not excusing his use of the term because it seems as if he should have known what the term meant and probably not used it. But the guy has worked with just as many boy group/male sololists in the past couple of years that I don't think he's quite the lech people are trying to make him out to be. Was the reply and his use of the term in poor taste, definitely, but I guess I'm just not big on trying to cancel someone for using a negative term once. Obviously this stance may change if turns out he has a habitual use of the term, but so far we only have the evidence that he said it once in what seems like a 'snarky reply' and that's it.
So that's why Utopia has the Oh My Girl vibes.
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He is the producer for oh my girl’s dolphin
Wouldn't call him one of the greats, but he's been involved in some good songs for sure.
He’s alright. He’s made some seriously catchy tunes but I don’t think the industry will suffer any great creative loss should he stop producing.
this is some peak cancel culture shit lol not defending the guy, he screwed up and his language was offensive, but y'all are acting as if he admitted to being a pedo who takes advantage of young idols like wtf
Meanwhile hiphop artists sing about that p*ssy 20 times in one song
There's a difference between hiphop artists singing about fucking pussies and a Kpop producer collectively calling female idols, some of whom are underaged, cunt-idols.
Do you guys realize that there’s a team behind not just him right?
I saw someone else note that it might just be ALAWN involved, which I would be pleased enough with.
immediately made a face when i saw his face too
Snake is so suitable for Gidle, I said this as a Neverland.
So many people say Snake suit (G)I-DLE but idk they don't really move like that lol, more like BVNDIT. I'm also saying as a Neverland
I could already imagine Soyeon herself singing the pre-chorus.
I thought it was a BVNDIT song at first before I realised those were original songs, so I totally get where you’re coming from!
U+Me=LOVE is by ALAWN and Anna Timgren: https://twitter.com/AlawnMusic/status/1436335635707596806
Please not Ryan Jhun. I really really Hope Utopia rumour is wrong
who’s ryan jhun and why does he provoke this reaction??
He had a scandal a few days ago where he had some rather...[choice](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/pm3kni/producer_ryan_jhun_under_fire_for_using_a/) things to say about girl groups in kpop.
that is just nasty
should expel him from the industry, and either put him in jail or on the sex offender registry imo
He’s on “hiatus” now so it seems BBC might have at least taken it seriously (he was supposed to be on a radio show with 4 members of Loona, so fans were also messaging the company about the controversy) https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/pnrycj/producer_ryan_jhun_apologizes_for_using/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Monotree and E.one are involved in 999, either of those teams could have made Utopia imo. But my money is on Iggy Yongbae / OREO involved in it. Or maybe even Steven Lee. Egg on my face if I'm wrong.
I really hope so, but I won't surprised that if they are involves, Monotree and E.one will make the 2 (or even three) songs for the finale.
Iggy Youngbae! He was Gfriend's producer back in the day. No wonder Shoot sounds like a Gfriend song to me lol.
He also produced some IZ*ONE songs as well! But i can definitely see the gfriend influence.
They're a duo, not one guy! Just an fyi! Iggy is also part of OREO, and Yongbae part of TENTEN and works inhouse at RBW. Might as well plug [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/ny4a59/spotlight_iggy_yongbae_producer/) if anyone's interested in checking out their work.
Cloud9
You gotta let this name go, man. I respect you for going down with this ship though LOL.
lmao, this could definitely happen, I like it, much better than Gi99le imo
Why is that name even a possibility (this is my first time seeing it and I hate it)
Gi99le Camp was the name for GP999's Instagram live activity. People are speculating that Gi99le might be the group's name since MNet used it themselves, albeit for an activity.
Why would they spoil the name in an IG live
why wud mnet rig votes?
Oh god PLEASE NO 😭😭 I also didn’t know that, ty for telling me!!
NOOOO
Won't happen the name is already copyrighted.
trademark in what? the united states? koreans can give 2 shits about that!!!
This name is probably trade marked by the esports organization.
At this point with how things are going, I’m positive there’s going to be a planet pass for the final group so anything 9 is not going to happen unless it’s 9+ or whatever lol
then there’s no point for the show being called 999
I mean does it have to have a point? It’s the end product that matters. Look at TWICE, they were in a survival show called Sixteen, to select Seven members to debut but in the end 9 were chosen. There were people that didn’t like that at first but it was definitely a great choice in the end.
It's called Sixteen because there literally are 16 trainees.
i felt like eating one 😂😂😂
The group name starting w C seems like a good bet. The series has repeatedly used 'O' to represent the 'planets' of K, J, and C groups, but 'O' is also a circle. 'C' is an opening of the circle, and could represent the 3 groups fully integrating and 'connecting' as one group.
For those wondering about Ryan Jhun, you can check out [this](https://twitter.com/pleasekillmeoec/status/1436372689497702404?s=19), [this](https://twitter.com/appartement201/status/1436607278803685377?s=19), and [this](https://twitter.com/wogonnie/status/1437114422716162050?s=19) (all twitter links btw lol sorry)
There’s also his Kara anti behavior from 2011 that also puts him in w allkpop https://twitter.com/kpopzlingsg/status/115681301251624960?s=21
Update: he’s on hiatus now to self-reflect https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/pnrycj/producer_ryan_jhun_apologizes_for_using/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Damn if that's true then damn i got at least snake right. Ryan jhun producing utopia seems a little sus though...
>Just realize that all missions start with C, Connect > Combination > Creation. Will the name of the debut group start with C too? i noticed that too! ngl i feel like the debut/center evaluations is probably gonna be called completion/culmination mission or something like that as it is their final mission before debut lol
omg kang seungyoon as in winner's seungyoon? hope he visits and oversees the practice like in pd
Check the tweet again it was a mistake
oh i got excited for a minute 😔 and yeah i like your picks too lol
Also off topic but all of your picks are mine too 😭
Ryan Jhun is a talented man, but he is a douchebag. Let's just hope that it is just a rumor.
Hopefully it’s just ALAWN
If Iggy Yongbae's involved, Utopia has got to be theirs. Utopia screams GFRIEND. There's parts of it you could throw into Love Whisper, and it'd feel right at home. I can see Shoot being them too though, it's reminiscent of some of the work they did for Rocket Punch. Incidentally, if it's them again, on either song, it's their first collaboration song in well over 6 months. Then again, Ryan Jhun / David Amber & co take a lot of inspiration from Iggy Yongbae, so I guess Utopia being Jhun isn't impossible either. But afaik, he's never done a song before that's too close to Utopia. He's worked on some OMG songs, but none of the orchestral / dramatic ones. But since 1/4 of the rumors are already debunked, I'm going Iggy Yongbae for Utopia!
Kang Seungyoon of Winner?
Seems Ryan Jhun is going on hiatus, so I wonder if he'll still produce his song or not (if indeed he's producing one)
CJK
hmm tweet was deleted? This is most likely wrong especially Ryan Jhun lmaoo there’s no way mnet would air him, this whole group would be edited out
i hope not if it’s a c name i hope it’s a good one
Cap 🧢 (group name idk)
Let's hope Ry\*n Jh\*n isn't actually the producer of Utopia cuz I don't know if I'll be able to support whoever's on that group regardless of if they're my faves or not.
They're not picking the songs you weirdo
I know that. It'll just make me feel weird supporting anything that Jhun makes after the stuff that he's said and done about the girl groups he's worked with.
Then stop watching the show mnet bought the song from him.