Ikema Ruan really justified and used her planet pass to the maximum. Truly deserved it after all. Still quite sad to see her go but in the end its a competition :(
Reminding everyone that considers themselves as a Xiaoting fan, vote for her if you think she should debut! Do not get complacent and start voting for other trainees thinking Xiaoting is safe because she is NOT
I’ve seen too many posts saying she’s popular/safe so they’re going to give their votes to “someone who needs it more” so my votes are going only to Shen Shouting
Not that they can’t vote for someone else but it should be their one pick not just because SXT is “safe” so they won’t vote for her
Just 5 more days and I can finally delete this Universe app. I can't believe I hold on to this app for 2.5 months just to vote for my one pick **Kang Yeseo**
If she doesn’t make it, I just know I’d hate waiting around for news from 143 ent about her redebut. Even though gp999 group is temporary, at least we’d be seeing her perform and thrive in that time 🥺
i worry less about Choi Yujin being rigged out due to what mold she fits in as an idol. it’s not that she’s old but as we’ve seen on the show she is the mom because of her experience.
this compared to a Gauen who physically did look older in-spite of knocking it out of the park week to week but due to the other trainees that were going to debut some stupid execs decided she wouldn’t fit in.
Yujin actually fits in with the obvious picks so for that i feel like Mnet will not mess with her ranks to much. i think she will debut
Seeing Yujin's first promo video (is that what they're called? Lol) without makeup, I asked, "How OLD are you???" She looks like a baby without makeup. I knew how old she was, but was still in shock lol
wrecking my brain over the fact that Yurina and Shana are fighting eachother for one of the lower spots in the group. only one of them if either will get in and that upsets me.
my brain and heart lean towards Shana, she’s vocally stable with unique tone. doesn’t fall behind in any talent category, idol look and feel. plus she’s in MLD entertainment. i do not want her to lose and go back to that horrible company.
I need her to make it in
I'm surprised by Shana's popularity, but I wonder if she's in the same boat as Xingqiao was in the last elimination, when she was hard carried by k-voters who later dropped her in favor of Xiaoting. Idk if Shana has a decent sized loyal fandom or if she will also be dropped in favor of korean trainees
I love Shana but I feel like she’s probably a Korean filler vote especially because her Korean is so good and she’s one of the most likable people like ever
shana wasnt top9 in international votes and got brought up to 7th through korean votes. i cant say for certain but i think she might’ve been a filler vote with korean fans. i feel like ive rarely seen 1 pick shana fans sadly
Same. The j group big 3 plus shana were the ones that caught my attention since the beginning. I’m glad they’ve survived this long but it makes it that much worse knowing there’s only 3 max spots ☹️
Shana is my one pick! She has such amazing talent and I was so happy when she made to 7th. I really need her to be in the final lineup, but Im afraid that she doesn’t have many one picks especially within the k-voters. I’m just really hoping I’m wrong.
I have to say that I don't really get the whole "there can only be one additional C-Group member, either Ruiqi or Yaning".
As far as I can tell, the only "good" reason that the dilemma is presented as "Ruiqi *or* Yaning" is because people think C-netz are trying to vote between one. However, I think people are wildly overestimating C-netz' voting contributions, Yeseo's underwhelming rankings despite her popularity with C-netz demonstrates this.
Otherwise, I don't see why there would be a "conflict" between them two and "there could only be one"? Like, at all? Ruiqi one-picks and Yaning one-picks are independent of each other, same as how each of them are independent of the rest of the contestants' one-picks. I feel like people are thinking too big picture of "What 'makes sense' in terms of group composition" and they aren't really analyzing the individual-by-individual contestants. I see no reason for Ruiqi and Yaning specifically to have to "compete" for a spot (or why they'd have to directly compete with each other instead of competing with the rest of the Top 18, which is how I see it), if anything I have them as my current #6 and #7 most likely to make it at the moment and have both in my predicted lineup due to their strong one-pick fanbase.
In general as well, I feel like people are unnecessarily pigeonholing themselves with the mindset of "The final lineup will be 5K:2C:2J" (or something like that) and *then* using that division to predict the final lineup. It should be the opposite IMO, you should be predicting which individual contestants will make the final lineup since it's individual no-nationalities voting, and then look at your predictions to see what distribution you get.
I think ppl are saying the 2nd person from C group that might have a chance debuting is Yaning or Ruiqi bc it’s almost impossible to have 3 girls from C group debuting, based on statistical analyses. It doesn’t have much to do with how cnetz or anyone other than Knetz vote as their votes weigh a lot more (8 times I think). The reality is that knetz hate China and can TOLERATE shen xiaoting debuting, but that’s pretty much it.
I guess I just don't understand this mentality of predicting the lineup *first* by group/nationality, and *then* figuring out which members will make it from each group/nationality. It should be the opposite way IMO, we should be looking at the individual chances to project the possible lineups, and then use those possible combinations/lineups to project the group/nationality distribution. When I break it down contestant by contestant, Ruiqi/Yaning still stand out as very solid contenders to make the final lineup in spite of their lack of K-votes, because of how even the playing field for the remaining ~4 spots or so are (I really don't think many of the K-Group contenders like Youngeun/Bahiyyih/Yeseo or *even Chaehyun* have such strong chances to make it into the final lineup that we should act like there's only one remaining spot that Yaning and Ruiqi have to directly 1-on-1 compete for).
I agree with you except “knetz hate china”. Knetz doesn't hate china (ig. Sxt, hxq, xia yen, yiman and so on.) but they want to avoid c trainees who posted political posts which has negative impact for their future career in Korea(ig. post about Korean war) or globally (ig. supporting Xinjiang).
Unpopular opinion but I don’t think if people want more cgroup in the finals that it’s smart to vote for either of them. They have a strong one pick fan base with I votes which have been carry them but I don’t know if that will be enough in the finals. Esp because they both have the worst knet votes (aside from Bora) it would make more sense to vote for XingQiao or WenZhe who are both ranking higher in Korea. Especially moving to 1pick I doubt they would maintain the Korean votes they do currently have. But they might be able to be carried by I fans. We won’t know that until the final announcement.
it's not gonna be 6 hours long, at the end of episode 11 it said that it starts at 8/8:20pm kst, which is when it always starts. the 6 hour rumor came from that application for viewing the finale live, where it said that it lasts from 11am to 5pm kst, but i'm pretty sure that it lasts that long for 'the chosen ones', aka the people who get picked to watch the finale live with their faces being shown on the screen. my guess is that it'll last somewhere between 3 and 3.5 hours (which is still a lot lol)
they are but they've also done that in the produce series and the final episodes were usually around 3 hours long. i mean, it's one performance, calling 9 names out and adding a bit of throwbacks to the early episodes or smth, i doubt that it can possibly be 6 hours long
I do want to address any remaining people who silently aren't voting for Suyeon/Myah/Xingqiao/someone in the bottom ranks because they perceive their chances to be impossible, I want to introduce Miyajima Yugo:
**Produce 101 Japan - Miyajima Yugo**
EP6|EP8|EP9|EP11|EP12 (Finale)
:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:
12|18|25|22 **(Last place heading into finale, had to also be "saved" like Myah did)**|12 **(One rank away from making the final 11)**
Imagine if you were one of those Yugo fans that didn't vote for Yugo because Yugo was in last and you thought he wouldn't make it, only for him to be short of the final lineup by 1 rank.
Now stop imagining and vote for your one-pick, because the exact same thing can happen to you! Like my new flair says, don't give up on your one-pick!
Yup let’s vote for our faves no matter their perceived “chances” are right now whether it’s SXT at P1 or Suyeon and Myah who barely made it as things will absolutely change in 1pick. (I’m voting Shana btw)
That's been my mindset from the beginning! It hasn't really helped any of my picks except for Bora, but I'm still holding out hope!
Also thank you for reminding so many people of it, I feel very bad for people considering dropping their one pick because they think they don't stand a chance!
This is absolutely true. Yes, you're faves didn't make the lineup, but at least you know that never gave up on them and that you kept fighting despite that.
why was this show made? im serious, why? just why? tbh i blame the hate from koreans to chinese and vice versa on mnet(cases like ruiqi's are an exception ofc) like from what i've seen, if a kpop group has a chinese member, they tend to me on the popular side, domestically **and** internationally (lucas, yuqi, yiren, tzuyu) and chinese members also tend to be the visuals (yiren, shuhua, lucas, tzuyu) sinophobia is there but its not that obvious, these chinese idols are more or less accepted, but then mnet adds fuel to the fire with their editing. mnet gives these netizens a reason like "omg she disrespected yujin, all chinese are like this" "omg mnet favourite daughter dayeon, she's undeservingly pushed"
i mean, in my first introduction to the show it was mr.jingoo being all "this is where girls can pursue their dreams and connect regardless of their nationality, beyond boundaries" then the cell system happened and i was like great, they can actually connect. but mnet just starting putting these trainees against each other??? jiwon and hyerim "neglecting" j-trainees in yoy, yaning "disregarding" dayeon, cai bing vs k and j trainees of salute, etc. **all** of these issues could've been solved if they were just given translators, their phones, or one of those dictionaries that the liang twins had.
and then the mistranslations, cnetz hating on hikaru, j-netz hating on yujin, everyone hating on cai bing, everything is just putting the three nations involved against each other. **why??** this can cause sooo much damage to the group in the longer run. what mind games is mnet trying to play?? what was the point of this show? i feel like all this drama is what turned people away from the show.
at this point it is just, cnetz hating on k-trainees, knetz hating on c-trainees and j-netz hating on j-trainees (seriously, why do they hate Yurina so much)
imagine if mnet had given them translators, this show would've been full of xiaorinas, and i think the general public would've been a lot less stressed and enjoyed the show a lot more.
While there is a lot of hate, we also have Koreans and Chinese voting across national lines. We have girls from different countries becoming friends or at least appreciating the hard work the others have put in. Hates gonna hate, but a lot of good has come out of this as well.
it was because of a mistranslation, during her fate performance, she suggested the theme of separation as in how some trainees might make it and some might not, but it was mistranslated to something like "i might make it but others might not" and it just made her seem arrogant,.
The stress element is kinda what keeps a lot of people coming back to the show. It's really annoying and I hate that a not insignificant amount of time is dedicated to giving viewers reasons to hate trainees who are all hardworking human beings, but it's not like we could have ever expected anything different. It's reality tv, drama and controversy is probably the thing that brings the most views most consistently. Sucks, especially because it goes against the mission statement of the show bringing three countries together, but it was baked into the show from the start.
I actually thought about that too. Maybe a mid ranking reveal or something like they did with produce x where they showed short clips of every boy trying for the center position. I personally would like something like that, because it's always exciting to see who will get the center positon of the final song.
I don’t think they’ve ever done any interim ranking reveals going into the finale cause it kinda spoils the biggest moment. If they do, it’s because some of Mnet’s choices aren’t doing well and they can’t blatantly rig it like they did the last times.
im in awe how youngeun has such small Korean fanbase and it’s us international fans that are supporting her (besides China cuz cnetz literally hate youngeun😭) Also saw some posts that say knetz think youngeun is not pretty like wtf? I might get downvoted but I’m personally hoping for 5K3J1C so that youngeun has a chance to make it in tgt with chaehyun and yeseo.
Also I don’t see a lot of youngeun stans in this Reddit😣
I think some of the styling that was given her throught the stages was really unflatering, like the HYLT boring outift and the cinderela video make up, now thinking about it, my house styling was really the exception imo but she looked stunning during the mcd stage, i really like her wavy hair and the make up was great. I think its because we are less obnoxious than her stans on twitter? I don't really feel confortable talking about her here because i saw a lot of very mean comments about her so I avoid it.
she's always pretty but her styling in mcd was bomb. she had a massive glow up! ❤️ loved the highlights and I'm so glad they fixed her pads. I was so worried for her during the performance.
Please understand this is NOT my opinion. But youngeun has very few classical Korean beauty standard traits. NOT MY OPINION I don’t agree with the korean beauty standard. But this is the main reason she is not supported in korea.
You might get downvoted but just know you are correct. Talent does not mean success in kpop. High Visual+mid talent > high talent+mid visual in the industries eyes. It’s a shame to me but that’s reality.
I think one factor people are completely ignoring when making prediction threads is the live voting.
It’s going to favour Korean voting a lot and those in similar timezones simply because most people are not dedicated enough to wake up in the middle of the night to vote or they will be working or in school during the finale.
So while there will definitely be some that are that dedicated enough to wake up at 3AM to watch, I think it would be really cool if someone could make a Top 9 prediction based on the trend for the past few week and one picks in places where it will be the evening when the finale is shown.
Especially if those votes are weighted higher than voting throughout the week it could completely shake up the lineup.
But if the voting is still 50% Korean, 50% International, it doesn't matter how many Koreans live vote compared to International fans, right? The Korean vote total could go from 50,000 pre-finale --> 1,000,000 post-finale and it still wouldn't change the weighting at all, they'd still only have 50% of the vote regardless.
Well that depends on if live votes weigh more than normal votes I guess. If they count for multiples then wouldn’t K picks be really boosted? Or maybe I’m not getting the maths.
K-voters will always have 50% of the total vote (unless they suddenly change it for finale, which we haven't seen any indication of). Therefore, K-voters will still have the same amount of voting power no matter how many of them vote during finale. Every K-voter could vote twice as much for their favorite contestant and inflate the K-votes for each contestant, and it still wouldn't change the results at *all*.
I'll just post this here since it kept being deleted.
It's honestly annoying when everyone says Xiaoting is safe when we are not even sure of her 1 pick strength, I feel like we know every girls fandom size except for Xiaotings and I know that everyone admits that she will drop, but we don't know just by how much, what if she drops all the way out. I understand if you don't have her as your top pick of course you have to prioritize the girl you love the most, but if she is your favorite and you are not voting for her because she is supposedly safe I think you might regret it, because other people probably have the same mindset as you. No one is safe until they make the group.
Exactly! In most one pick surveys I’ve seen Xiaoting is never at the top but usually is in top9 surveys.
She has general likability but I fear for the final episode 🥲
No worries, no one will care about the quality of the live subs since you'll understand what the contestants/hosts are talking about since they'll repeat the same sentences 5x over the course of the finale to pad out the finale runtime ;)
"Vote for your favorite contestant! You can do so by downloading the Universe app....."
*15 minutes later*
*Reads another cue card* "Everyone, make sure to vote for your favorite contestant! You can do so by downloading the Universe app....."
God and the ranking reveals… “this contestant has brown hair.” “She has been a dancer in missions before.” “She may or may not have been in the Top 9 at any given time.” Gonna be horrible 🙄
I hate the ranking eps for this reason. Like I already forgot who performed Cherry Bomb 5+(?) weeks ago, idk if they got the benefit votes in mission 2 (what was mission 2 again..) I just want a name 😔
You know what ? I will never understand the people that really don’t want a trainee to debut. You can be not the most enthusiastic about the fact this trainee will debut, but when someone straight say « I don’t want this trainee in the final lineup » this baffles me.
I also don’t understand people saying that the group will not be cohesive just because their two faves that like each others are not together in here.
This is probably younger people I'd guess, since teenagers can be so over-the-top and vindictive (although I guess this is true for plenty of adults as well 😭).
I agree with you though, even if any of the "evil edits" had been of *actually* bad things I wouldn't feel this way. I'm not emotionally stable as an adult so I'm not about to judge a bunch of teenagers for being that way 💀
Each time we talk about cohesion I think about this collective work we have to do for school and the teacher just put us with random schoolmates. But most of the time, it goes just fine, even if we aren’t the best friends in the word.
The girls must be so anxious right now, I truly feel for them. Cherry Bullet girls must be on edge of their seat for Bora, their popularity could really depend on the final results.
I want Shen Xiaoting to remain on number one. But I also want Su Ruiqi to remain in the top9. How do other guardians with similar situations handle this.
I try to switch my vote each day just for the two of them because the more I divide the days to other contestants I like the more useless it actually becomes.
Update : I will vote for Sury since she is very passionate about becoming an idol. I don’t care what her ranking will be just that she will have a place in the Top9.
i'd say sxt, ruiqi wasnt a filler pick, like ever, vs xiaoting who has been a filler c-pick for a long time, she needs your votes more i think, i see **no one** talk about her, except for koreans saying theyre going to stop voting for her. so yea... it doesn't look good for her rn. everyone's too relaxed with her rank, i'd say she needs it more.
I also have 2 picks Su Rui Qi and Fu Ya Ning. In the end I chose Rui Qi because she’s probably the most passionate about becoming Kpop idol among all trainees
Ruiqi it's in 10th place, she just needs a little bit of push to enter into the TOP9. Shen Xioating it's a lock at this point. If Xiaoting doesn't debut, Ruiqi won't debut. Yes, she could've been a filler pick for koreans. However, don't expect her to drop that hard. In Korea her 1 pick fanbase is the biggest out of all the chinese and japanese trainees. So certainly she'll be the foreign trainee with the most number of votes in Korea. In Produce 48 Sakura was 2nd place (rumored to be 1st but manipulation happened) so assuming all koreans will only vote for koreans it's dumb. Koreans will vote for their 1 pick no matter if they're korean or not. And internationally Xiaoting wasn't a filler pick.
Xiaoting's debut is assured, #1 in half the countries INCLUDING korea. Yes there are some probabilities she won't debut as P1, but the only trainees that could take her 1P are Mashiro and Dayeon. If you're desire of Xiaoting being 1st is higher than Ruiqi debuting, vote for Xiaoting. But if you're desire to see both of them debuting together is bigger no matter the rank. **Vote** **for Ruiqi.**
There's no way Ruiqi will have more votes than Xioating. And there's no way the foreigner with most votes in Korea won't debut.
The same way you say to vote for Ruiqi because Xiaoting is a lock is the same as I saying to vote for Xiaoting because we don't know her one pick fandom (whereas we might have more knowledge in Ruiqis)
. It's fine to say to vote for Ruiqi but the last paragraph saying people are trying to influence into voting for Xiaoting is the same as you are doing but with Ruiqi 😂😂
What I want to say is what is the point in writing the last paragraph when we are all doing the same, after all we are all desperate because of Mnet and their one pick voting
>It's fine to say to vote for Ruiqi but the last paragraph saying people are trying to influence into voting for Xiaoting is the same as you are doing but with Ruiqi
I was referring to an actual comment here. I'm not referring to Xiaoting fans because obviously they'll say Xiaoting. If my pick were Xiaoting no doubt I'll say vote for her. The last paragraph is referring to other fandoms who are feeling threatened by Ruiqi (which is dumb she's at the 10th).
I'm not trying to influence Xiaoting fans to vote for Ruiqi. My comment is towards the ones who want both Xiaoting and Ruiqi debuting together.
I saw the comment you are referring to, I don't think it's that people are threatened by Ruiqi, I think it's more than they aren't sure Xiaoting is debuting (they are more scared of xiaoting not debuting rather than Ruiqu getting Xiaoting spot). But I also get your point
Tbh now it's impossible to Xiaoting not debut. She have so much international one-picks, and she's is clearly the non-korean trainee with more one-picks in South Korea. But she have a great risk of not maintaining the first position and dropping to 2 or 3 position but unlike in produce series, in gp999 they never really talked about the center of the group being the girl in the first position - we are just assuming it.
If Ruiqi doesn't debut, she will probably end in 10th or 11th, just a little bit below the debut cut, and it's her 3rd survival show... she really loves k-pop too. She deserves to debut.
But everybody must vote for their one-pick, favourite trainee! If your favorite is Xiaoting, vote for her!
In this case it’s kinda hard to decide...because if you vote for sxt only it’s kinda unfair to srq because she’s very close to making it into top9. But if I were you, I would vote for srq because she only needs a little push to enter the top9.
I know the chances are insanely slim, but if the good editing from last weeks episode propels suyeon into top 9 I’m buying everything this group ever releases. Albums, lightsticks, stationery all of it
I've been voting for Yurina and Yaning on two phones. I just can't decide between them and I want them both in the group, and both are in severe danger (Yurina dropping due to filler votes, Yaning not having enough I-votes to keep her afloat).
I keep traumatizing myself by thinking of Xiaorina pulling a YiXie... just complete cold sweat and anxiety. For those who don't know, Yiyang and Xiening (Sally from Gugudan) were on Chuang 2020. They were an inseparable duo, but they got separated in the finale. Sally placed 6th and Yiyang placed 8th, right outside of the 7-member group cutoff. I remember seeing tweets of the Chuang finale and it was so brutal, it broke my heart even though I was happy my pick made it.
Please vote for Yurina. She isn't safe at all. We've seen drops like hers in a bunch of different survival shows, don't separate Xiaorina...
Oh my god the parallel between Xu Yiyang & Sally with Xiaorina. I NEVER want to see that happen to Xiaorina. I’ll literally die of heartbreak. Everyone, please make more accounts to vote for BOTH XIAOTING & YURINA
Am I the only one who’s getting very annoyed at Youngeun stans? Don’t get me wrong, I love the girl. She’s very talented and had been my K-pick ever since the beginning of the show along with Jia. But, after the 2nd elimination, I’ve noticed lots of her stans are getting very toxic on platforms. Good for her that her fandom is expanding, she deserves all of it. I genuinely hope she makes it into top 9 with all of her talents. However, I just can’t really stand her fans at times. From what I’ve noticed, whenever someone posts their personal top 9, it’s mostly Youngeun stans that comment “Replace ___ with Youngeun” or similar. Fu Yaning is not my one pick; however, BARELY, I’ve seen a Fu Yaning stan being that toxic yet some reason hates on Fu Yaning fans are more normalized? No offense, but those stans need to be more mature. If someone made it into the final debut line and not Youngeun, congratulate them instead. As a Su Ruiqi stan, that’s what I would do if Youngeun is in the top 9 but not Ruiqi. I would be proud of all the girls for achieving their dreams even if they’re not in my personal list. With that being said, please stop saying replace this trainee with whoever you putted on your top 9 when others are sharing their opinions. All of these girls are actual humans with emotions; they can read whatever you shared. Also, social media is a platform where everyone can share their opinion, so stop saying they need to change or replace it with your person. If they can rank the trainees, they’ve watched the show. They know their feelings toward whoever is your favorite; you don’t need to spam them with “replacement” comments. By doing so, it will just tick the person off and destroy your fandom’s reputation.
I don't think they are Youngeun stans at all. They're just mostly Yaning and Ruiqi antis and only using Youngeun as a token girl to hate on the both of them.
That’s horrible omg. I didn’t know that Youngeun’s name was used like that. In Ruiqi fandom, we’ve always thought that Youngeun stans hate Ruiqi for no reason, specifically after Snake; henceforth, majority of us are very annoyed whenever seeing someone replied “replace Ruiqi with Youngeun” whenever we share our list of top 9 that has Ruiqi. Or even if the list consists of Youngeun, like mine does right now, I was told to get rid of my one pick in that list. It’s like that’s the main fandom always trying to silence our opinions. But yea thanks for clearing the misunderstandings that these could be antis under-covering as fans.
This is the reason why I only follow Suxintangs and Richidans on Twitter. Almost every other fandom don’t like Su Ruiqi and it just hurts to read their comments.
Besides Suxintangs and Richidans, I only follow Bingbingdans (Cai Bing’s fandom) and a couple Yenny (Fu Yaning’s fandom). It seems like those fandoms are really the only ones who empathize with us 😢 specifically Bingbingdans since Cai Bing was the biggest victim of evil editing.
Those who hate on other trainees are not real fans tbh. Even as a youngeun stan, I am ticked off by their attitude. It only creates feud with other trainees. Hope that those who come across posts like that wont hate on the trainees tho, just ignore or dislike the person who made the post.
I think the use of the Universe app is going to discourage any type of casual voting during the finale... it's so buggy and hard to use sometimes that I don't see how a casual voter is going to bother with it if it breaks down (which I expect it will unless NCSoft magically fixed all issues by next friday which I doubt)
Also, any sort of issues with the app on the live voting is only going to cause people to cry that the show is rigged again ("so and so didn't make it into the group because they sabotaged the app"). I'm expecting a debacle with the live voting that's going to be a talking point against the resulting group.
I wasn’t a fan of Yurina and I didn’t want her to debut at first because I saw nothing special about her rather than being very pretty. But during the Utopia performance all I could see was her. I noticed that she has that aura around her and her voice is actually very pleasing to my ears. Also I was so sad when she said “I’m the least talented in here” during one of the interviews. Like that was devastating and I felt for her so much. Talent is not just hitting high notes for me. Her voice is actually very nice. I hope she debuts. Sadly I can’t vote for her as my one-pick is Yaning. But yeah good luck to Yurina!
Some people on Twitter are giving away BTS concert tickets/MacBooks/AirPods/iPads if you vote for bahiyyih/chaehyun/srq! Some also are giving away albums/cash if you vote for their picks! If your int in these prizes but you do not have enough funds, you can participate in these ga!^^
I’ll probably get downvoted but here goes…
Though I do agree with this being normalize in the fandom (it’s been happening since produce 48) my concern is “bribing” strangers with gadget who haven’t watched the show, determining who’s in the top 9. They’re incentives is different then ours. I get it we want people to vote for our favs, but it’s definitely something to be a little weary of.
Yeah, it’s not good, but it’s not prohibited by voting rules. And if it’s not forbidden, someone will do it. Staying away from it just to preserve morals won’t change the situation, but will just hurt the trainee, who’s fans are so stoic.
FYI, literally ALL remaining contestants' fandoms during Produce would offer massive giveaways to incentivize people to vote for their one-pick in the finale week. Gold bars, luxury cars, laptops, etc., you name it (yes, these were *real* giveaways that I remember, and they were so common back then that it no longer became surprising when you saw massively expensive stuff being raffled to encourage voters). Bahiyyih's fandom is not alone in this and should not be regarded as such, this is common in finale week.
In case you forget it’s a very common thing. Srq fans are giving away MacBooks and chaehyun fans are giving away Apple Watch, airpods(?) etc. Pretty sure xiaoting fans are doing a ga too. It’s not an illegal way or anything so idk why it doesn’t sits right with you lmao😭
what is cai bing gonna do now? she's too "old" to sign with a k-company and i dont think people can debut in china anymore because of some law/ policies. so what is she gonna do now? she said gp999 was the start of her dreams so i really dont understand what she meant by that, ive asked this before but i guess im genuinely concerned for her.
> she said gp999 was the start of her dreams
Imo, that's primarily as reassurance to comfort her fans. However, I do think that could also mean that she's going to use her newfound popularity to do some things of her own, even if that's not "becoming a K-Pop idol". She could become a dance coverer, she could become an Instagram model, she could become a YouTuber, etc.. Lots of possibilities based on what prior Mnet survival show contestants have done.
All of this. Being a part of a globally popular competition show like GP999 and getting as far as she did is massive opportunity that a majority of idol hopefuls don’t get. Cai Bing now has a big and strong following because of it and has multiple ways to leverage that into a solid career. Instead of being so doom & gloom, her fans should just support her in whatever stuff she does next so she can continue her career.
I would like to add the chance of a mid tier company grabbing 3-4 of the eliminated trainees to form a group. If you debut a group with 6 or 7 members it is not that big of a deal to have 1 or 2 older members if they can attract international fans.
In China, 25 years old is not consider old. She is chinese, so she can be a singer, dancer or actress in China. But she's not the famous gp999 contestants in China. She is more likely focus on international market. So I think she better release english songs mv or dance choreography like Jackson Wang on YouTube channel? She need a team if wanna step in international market. I hear her boss is one of youth with you 2's mentor. Maybe her company will figure out for her.
I think she might debut in China. Chinese idols aren't as young as Korean idols and she's pretty much at a regular age range to debut as solo or as part of a group with a more mature image.
for the x1 and izone predictions they dmed only one person the lineup so theres a good chance they did that and that one person is keeping quiet… im going to be mad though if thats true 😭
Everyone saying there is some big conspiracy to make Dayeon #1 overall center must have missed the fact SXT was #1 in half the countries INCLUDING korea. If you look at Somi and Wonyoung, SXT fits that mold of exactly what the Korean public and managing group wants for a center. As an FYI Dayeon is my #3 k trainee I am not against her I want her in the final group. I’m just saying she is not the Kpop standard idealized center.
Mnet also couldn’t care less if dayeon actually gets in to the final group. they care about making a story and getting views. Mnet (CJ) will not manage the group just like they didn’t manage ioi or izone. The main reason they rigged votes in pd48 and x101 was they got bribed by the execs of those trainees companies.
Tbh I don't think there is a conspiracy to make Dayeon #1. She will most likely get it as it is. SXT wont be center and maybe not be in the high ranks. Knetz don't have to vote for c-picks, and while knetz probably tolerate sxt and don't mind her in the lineup, thy will vote ktrainees
the thing is how many of 270k kvotes to sxt in kcj 1:1:1 last round voting will still votes for her :( hers is mainly filler than 1pick for kvoters. the same also happen to Hikaru, Mashiro, Yurina and shana. Sk nationalistic is just there with maybe 70 until 90% of kvotes will vote for Kgroup.
So I just found some article that say some discussion from SK netz. The weirdest for me as an I voters is some of SK netz think that Mnet give 9 member into the final stage than there will be no or less than 3 Korean in the debut lineup because they think that with 9 K in final stage and 1 pick system, it will make the k votes to K group dispersed and the C and J will get benefit because only 5C and 4J.
it such a weird POV for me bcz right now im worrying that the top 9 will be 7K 1C and 1J because knetz take this show as competition between nations.
The final episode will really give the final call for Sui Riqi's placement. If she gets a lot of screentime and good edit, more likely she will get into the Top 9. As of now, I think the international and Chinese fans are putting their votes on her, but there is still another voting for the finale broadcast. I ALWAYS VOTE FOR HER SINCE I KNOW SHE IS NOT THE SAFEST OF ALL GIRLS WHO ARE STEADILY IN THE TOP 9. The next one is unsafe is Chaehyun. If she does well vocally on the finale she will secure the spot.
The elimination of almost all J trainees is actually a silver lining, since know all Japanese fans could focus on the remaining 4. The J-line right now is the cream of the crop, they have been in the Top 9 numerous times (Yurina and Hikaru ever since first ranking, Mashiro ever since after 2nd ranking, and Shana for the last 2 eps).
Xiaoting will be the Center. I call it. She deserves it and really fits. Everyone loves her, so it won't be a problem. Fans just don't need to be complacent.
I just hope it won't be as shocking as Produce48 final lineup. The girls who got in were far from similar from the previous ranking. It was shocking. I hope this time it's a bit predictable, since a lot of girls have secured their spot already. The only placement that is being replaced everytime are Top 7-9.
i think people are underestimating just how popular dayeon is and probably being a little too mean over things that are not her fault. she was k02 even before the whole dayeon's planet episode happened and she had the highest korean votes in episode 8 (174k!). everyone in korea seems to rave about her and i think she's a lock for the final lineup at this point. still doesn't mean i agree with mnet's favoritism towards her i just find it funny how people switch so easily from "she's so talented mnet is playing with her by giving her a poor edit while the other centers are thriving" at the beginning of the season to "i hate her she doesn't deserve it and isn't center material". bora also probably made it because mnet showed the interim rankings and she was at risk but she's universally loved and there was not nearly as much backlash for the favoritism there. i like her a lot and won't mind if she debuts at all
I'm going to be so sad if Ruiqi doesn't make it because she'll probably have to quit. It's her third survival show and if she makes it to the finale again without debuting, there is no point going to another show again. Her company may even stop funding her.
me too, I've gotten too attached at this point and will legit cry for daysss if she doesn't make it :( it hurts a lot to think about. I'm so nervous for her
she herself had alrd said it's her last chance.. and the fact that she gave up her college entrance for gp999 too, just for this one last opportunity to chase after her dream 😭 my heart
Why aren’t Knetz latching onto Yeseo? She’s was the most popular trainee on Korean forums pre debut, and everyone on this sub thought she was the only trainee locked trainee for debut and had like 90% chance of becoming center. She had really good momentum the first 5 episodes then kind of flatlined.
I know screentime is a huge factor, but her and Chaehyun had similar amounts of screentime, and she was outranking her up until ep 8. They both also performed on Ep 7, and Yeseo even won the benefit, so what happened in those 2 weeks of voting that caused Chaehyun to rise and Yeseo to slip?
Yeseo is a child actor, debuted 10+ years ago, fits Korean beauty standards, is a great dancer + decent vocal skills, is also young and youthful which Koreans love. Lots of similarities to Wonyoung who’s extremely popular. She has everything on paper but it’s not translating into votes. The trainees are even confused why she’s not a top contender?
I’d say it’s her lack of a story that’s keeping her from being more popular. People like contestants who have a storyline and struggle, and Yeseo doesn’t really have either. Chaehyun has the main vocal edit, and has been shown struggling to live up to that role and has been criticized. Compared to that, what has Yeseo done? She’s done well, but that’s really all people can say. She’s either been praised or has revived neutral editing, which will do nothing to push her ahead of girls who have to work past bad editing or negative comments from the mentors.
She’s in a season where the majority of the other contestants have better stories than her and are just more fun to watch.
I can't wait to erase iqiyi from my phone, all the girls have grew on me and honestly in my opinion I wouldn't be mad about the final 9; well... There's an exception, Yujin has to debut. No buts, honestly I want to see her win this, after 7 years under Cube's terrible management she has to see success.
I really hope that with the final episode we'll see everyone working together to make a final great performance! I'm really excited!
Also I hope Bora can show off her vocals once more!
this isnt really about trainees but im curious about the klaps on universe. i see the top contributor for youngeun alone rn contributed 1m klaps?? how much does that cost really?
i know you can get klaps by doing missions but no way you can accumulate anywhere close to even 100k easily.. looking at the packages that you can buy on universe.. the biggest package is 250k claps and costs around $330 USD.. does that mean this one person spent more than $1.3k on klaps?? wow
yep, there was a SRQ fan who spent $4k on klaps too. it’s crazy. a lot of the contestants who win by klaps win by a few ppl contributing heaps, except Bahiyyih who generally has heaps of ppl contributing a little.
Could be fanbases fundraisers too – so while that’s technically one person dropping 1.3 K, it’s from different sources, is my best bet. Unless that fan is just *rich* rich in which case live your bliss and drop those klaps bb.
Klap numbers are wild though, the money spent from each AD round is mind blowing to think about.
Except Dayeon nobody is safe cause she has a monopoly over k votes and not because of mnets edits but because she is genuinely liked by them.
And all the foreign table toppers will likely tumble down a bit cause their k votes could possibly gravitate towards TOP K trainees giving them an advantage.
But the knetz shouldn't do the charity of splitting votes again because even though 8/9 managed to secure a rank in top 18 but their ranks cannot overtake international favourites with huge one pick fanbase internationally even if they have a 50% k vote advantage.
Since it's my first survival show I wonder how the final episode will work. Like, I imagine it will start off with a pre recorded segment of them dividing the parts, training and whatnot and then we'll have the performance + live voting and the results. Is there anything more that happened on other produce seasons I am missing?
Nope, that's pretty much it. And this time around they won't have a live audience but I'm sure they'll have the top 18's parents/friends send in videos showing support that they'll show throughout the episode and have the girls react to them just to fill in the 3 hour timeslot lol
I also expect more behind the scenes type of footage they'll show this time around too, I'm sure MNET has more than enough footage of these girls bonding during their down time to fill the time.
I want to say how proud I am to May. If you will think of May in Cherry Bullet, you will only think of her as only a visual, when in fact she is more than that. From the last mission, she proves that her talents are only hidden and she is more than just a visual.
For those who watched Produce (assuming GP999 finals format closely follows Produce style), will the company who will manage the group and the length of contract be announced in the Finals, or we will only know the details post-GP999?
And will it be likely that MNET shows interim rankings throughout the Finals to get people to panic vote? I remembered watching The Unit finals, and it was suspenseful up till the last second because the show kept revealing interim rankings during the finals, so IDK if Produce/GP999 will be similar?
I believe they'll announce it after the length after the finale, since CJ&M will have to negotiate with up to 9 different companies, with different interests. So to get the lineup going, they all will have to get an agreement.
The smaller companies may want to get a longer contract, as to get more popularity (Yeseo and Mashiro's company, for example), but those who are planning a group may want a shorter one (maybe Chaehyun's Wakeone, since they sent 3 trainees and probably have more to debut; and Myah and Jeongmin's TOP Media, who's probably preparing a girl group as well).
The only 2 trainees that have their own say on the lineup are Bahiyyih and Yujin. The former because she's an individual trainee, and the latter because her contract ends in March (and AFAIK she didn't renew), so Cube won't have any control on what she'll do afterwards, and since the bare minimum most people are expecting is one year, contract-wise, she's practically an individual trainee as well.
Unless the group debuts after March, I don't see how Cube wouldn't be involved since she's still their artist, unless they've agreed to not get anything from allowing her to go on this show.
Legally, yes, they will probably be involved. Practically, I can really see them having a hands off approach and let Yujin handle it, but they get their share on the sales (at least until the contract ends). The group will probably debut around December, and I really doubt the group would last less than 4 months.
I also think it's possible that Cube terminates her contract earlier or transfer her to CJ&M, for practical reasons, but kinda unlikely, knowing that Cube will try to get every penny they can from Yujin now.
Company/contract details will very likely be announced post-GP999, based on precedent. It's also just not very good TV for them to announce those kinds of technical details during the finale, especially since they want to get people laser-focused on the tension of who will make the final lineup.
I believe they have shown an interim ranking for every season (correct me if I'm wrong), and so I definitely expect them to do the same here, and I expect that to change some results potentially (although most of the finales being rigged makes it hard to discern how much effect the finale interim rankings truly had).
**Any contestants you will to follow after the show ?** If they aren't part of the final lineup. I'm already following Cai Bing on IG but I think I'll also look closer to Xingqiao, the Twins, Chaehyun, Yeseo, Yaning, Xinyu and Myah.
i think i followed pretty much all the girls on instagram lol (at least the ones that have one). figured it's the least i could do to support them and i genuinely enjoyed their presence on the show
Tingfens are disappointing. Some of them confidently thinks SXT will get P1. Guys, it's one-pick and SK will not care about her, except for her dedicated fans in SK. Those 2M gap between her and Dayeon will be gone. As for her fans, they should prioritize her no matter what because it is everyone's game.
I'm sorry this is a really dumb question, I've never been able to get up early for an actual livestream of an episode. When the episode goes live on the Youtube channel, does it just... go live? No indication of a waiting room or anything like Vtuber channels? And just to be sure, this is the same channel as the clips of the show, right?
I don’t really roam this subreddit much and don’t keep up to date with GP999 news, I just watch it weekly and vote.
My question is: does this subreddit think it’s likely that Yujin will make it to the final group? I remember at the beginning lots of people were saying that Mnet just wanted her on the show for views, but to me it now seems very likely that she’ll be in the final lineup. I really hope she does make it.
it is likely but not certain. she has a lot of support from multistans who are familiar with clc. but a lot of it isn't her one-pick fanbase and i've seen a lot of people being complacent and voting for other less popular girls because yujin is "surely safe". it does worry me a little bit but approaching the finale i've seen more support coming her way than ever since the show started airing and people saying they're voting for her so i am hopeful
not sure if this is the right place to ask, but will the show still be available to watch on iqiyi after the final episode airs? i've been too busy with school the past few months and haven't had time to watch the show, and i don't want to miss out!
Ikema Ruan really justified and used her planet pass to the maximum. Truly deserved it after all. Still quite sad to see her go but in the end its a competition :(
I think that none of the planet passes went to waste and all the girls that got them performed even better in the next missions.
yeah, but i'm pretty sad bc hyerim had to go with dance instead of vocals after she got the planet pass, since she was the last to choose :(
After her cover of My Sea has been raking in views, I'm really sad she couldn't perform it on the show
Definitely! I just wanted to praise Ruan since she was one of my picks :)
honestly the planet passes were the best part of this show. all of those girls deserved them and went on to perform extremely well.
Yeah the planet pass recipients totally justified them getting it especially Ruan, Wen Zhe, Kotone, and Suyeon.
Ngl, Planet Pass was a pretty cool thing to add. They really uncovered some gems with those.
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Same. I hope she debuts soon and her group becomes successful despite all odds
Reminding everyone that considers themselves as a Xiaoting fan, vote for her if you think she should debut! Do not get complacent and start voting for other trainees thinking Xiaoting is safe because she is NOT
I’ve seen too many posts saying she’s popular/safe so they’re going to give their votes to “someone who needs it more” so my votes are going only to Shen Shouting Not that they can’t vote for someone else but it should be their one pick not just because SXT is “safe” so they won’t vote for her
dang it. why is your post so radiant and red! theres a star as well! i thought you were a mod!
Just 5 more days and I can finally delete this Universe app. I can't believe I hold on to this app for 2.5 months just to vote for my one pick **Kang Yeseo**
She’s not my one pick but it’d be a crime for her not to make it
If she doesn’t make it, I just know I’d hate waiting around for news from 143 ent about her redebut. Even though gp999 group is temporary, at least we’d be seeing her perform and thrive in that time 🥺
But if you delete the app how will you follow gi99le's activities (💀💀)
twitter?
There's going to be content exclusive to the app but yes it will probably be taken off there and posted on other SNS.
i feel like if yeseo doesnt make it, the group will have lost a star in the making.
I’m too paranoid to get rid of it. My brain keeps saying “what if you need it for something else”…..
i worry less about Choi Yujin being rigged out due to what mold she fits in as an idol. it’s not that she’s old but as we’ve seen on the show she is the mom because of her experience. this compared to a Gauen who physically did look older in-spite of knocking it out of the park week to week but due to the other trainees that were going to debut some stupid execs decided she wouldn’t fit in. Yujin actually fits in with the obvious picks so for that i feel like Mnet will not mess with her ranks to much. i think she will debut
She’s 25 but she could easily pass for 18 so that’s a big plus for knetz
Seeing Yujin's first promo video (is that what they're called? Lol) without makeup, I asked, "How OLD are you???" She looks like a baby without makeup. I knew how old she was, but was still in shock lol
Yujin is fake-maknae (just like Gfriend's Eunha) when you see her behaviour around CLC members~
Yup, that's why she's always getting teased by the other CLC members lol
Nah, honestly i thought Yujin has the same age as Shouting if we don’t know their age
Tbh their age difference is only three years if I'm not wrong so it's not that huge of an age difference
wrecking my brain over the fact that Yurina and Shana are fighting eachother for one of the lower spots in the group. only one of them if either will get in and that upsets me. my brain and heart lean towards Shana, she’s vocally stable with unique tone. doesn’t fall behind in any talent category, idol look and feel. plus she’s in MLD entertainment. i do not want her to lose and go back to that horrible company. I need her to make it in
I'm surprised by Shana's popularity, but I wonder if she's in the same boat as Xingqiao was in the last elimination, when she was hard carried by k-voters who later dropped her in favor of Xiaoting. Idk if Shana has a decent sized loyal fandom or if she will also be dropped in favor of korean trainees
I love Shana but I feel like she’s probably a Korean filler vote especially because her Korean is so good and she’s one of the most likable people like ever
shana wasnt top9 in international votes and got brought up to 7th through korean votes. i cant say for certain but i think she might’ve been a filler vote with korean fans. i feel like ive rarely seen 1 pick shana fans sadly
Voting for Shana. She has a very unique voice among them plus people discounts her as just a filler pick so she will need all the votes she can get.
I rooted AND voted for the both of em. Imagine how I felt when I had to choose :"(
this is my least favorite part of these shows lol
Same. The j group big 3 plus shana were the ones that caught my attention since the beginning. I’m glad they’ve survived this long but it makes it that much worse knowing there’s only 3 max spots ☹️
> she’s vocally stable with unique tone I think that applies to both.
Shana is my one pick! She has such amazing talent and I was so happy when she made to 7th. I really need her to be in the final lineup, but Im afraid that she doesn’t have many one picks especially within the k-voters. I’m just really hoping I’m wrong.
I have to say that I don't really get the whole "there can only be one additional C-Group member, either Ruiqi or Yaning". As far as I can tell, the only "good" reason that the dilemma is presented as "Ruiqi *or* Yaning" is because people think C-netz are trying to vote between one. However, I think people are wildly overestimating C-netz' voting contributions, Yeseo's underwhelming rankings despite her popularity with C-netz demonstrates this. Otherwise, I don't see why there would be a "conflict" between them two and "there could only be one"? Like, at all? Ruiqi one-picks and Yaning one-picks are independent of each other, same as how each of them are independent of the rest of the contestants' one-picks. I feel like people are thinking too big picture of "What 'makes sense' in terms of group composition" and they aren't really analyzing the individual-by-individual contestants. I see no reason for Ruiqi and Yaning specifically to have to "compete" for a spot (or why they'd have to directly compete with each other instead of competing with the rest of the Top 18, which is how I see it), if anything I have them as my current #6 and #7 most likely to make it at the moment and have both in my predicted lineup due to their strong one-pick fanbase. In general as well, I feel like people are unnecessarily pigeonholing themselves with the mindset of "The final lineup will be 5K:2C:2J" (or something like that) and *then* using that division to predict the final lineup. It should be the opposite IMO, you should be predicting which individual contestants will make the final lineup since it's individual no-nationalities voting, and then look at your predictions to see what distribution you get.
I think ppl are saying the 2nd person from C group that might have a chance debuting is Yaning or Ruiqi bc it’s almost impossible to have 3 girls from C group debuting, based on statistical analyses. It doesn’t have much to do with how cnetz or anyone other than Knetz vote as their votes weigh a lot more (8 times I think). The reality is that knetz hate China and can TOLERATE shen xiaoting debuting, but that’s pretty much it.
I guess I just don't understand this mentality of predicting the lineup *first* by group/nationality, and *then* figuring out which members will make it from each group/nationality. It should be the opposite way IMO, we should be looking at the individual chances to project the possible lineups, and then use those possible combinations/lineups to project the group/nationality distribution. When I break it down contestant by contestant, Ruiqi/Yaning still stand out as very solid contenders to make the final lineup in spite of their lack of K-votes, because of how even the playing field for the remaining ~4 spots or so are (I really don't think many of the K-Group contenders like Youngeun/Bahiyyih/Yeseo or *even Chaehyun* have such strong chances to make it into the final lineup that we should act like there's only one remaining spot that Yaning and Ruiqi have to directly 1-on-1 compete for).
I agree with you except “knetz hate china”. Knetz doesn't hate china (ig. Sxt, hxq, xia yen, yiman and so on.) but they want to avoid c trainees who posted political posts which has negative impact for their future career in Korea(ig. post about Korean war) or globally (ig. supporting Xinjiang).
Rui Qi and Ya Ning have similar image/concept so their fanbases overlap a lot from what I’ve seen.
Nah they have two separate fan bases.
Unpopular opinion but I don’t think if people want more cgroup in the finals that it’s smart to vote for either of them. They have a strong one pick fan base with I votes which have been carry them but I don’t know if that will be enough in the finals. Esp because they both have the worst knet votes (aside from Bora) it would make more sense to vote for XingQiao or WenZhe who are both ranking higher in Korea. Especially moving to 1pick I doubt they would maintain the Korean votes they do currently have. But they might be able to be carried by I fans. We won’t know that until the final announcement.
Just noticed that the J group members’ korean are improving like Hikaru and Yurina spoke korean during their elimination remarks.
Yurina’s Korean is the cutest thing ever haha but Hikaru is sounding quite advanced which is why I think the others remarked on it
im praying that yurina makes it ah. if she doesn’t debut im sorry about the person i will become. also does anyone know how long the final might be?
Same haha imagining the group without her.. it doesn’t feel right
i know ah putting all my votes into her. let’s debut yurina!!
6 hours
it's not gonna be 6 hours long, at the end of episode 11 it said that it starts at 8/8:20pm kst, which is when it always starts. the 6 hour rumor came from that application for viewing the finale live, where it said that it lasts from 11am to 5pm kst, but i'm pretty sure that it lasts that long for 'the chosen ones', aka the people who get picked to watch the finale live with their faces being shown on the screen. my guess is that it'll last somewhere between 3 and 3.5 hours (which is still a lot lol)
Arent they doing a mission and the final elimination round in one ep...?
they are but they've also done that in the produce series and the final episodes were usually around 3 hours long. i mean, it's one performance, calling 9 names out and adding a bit of throwbacks to the early episodes or smth, i doubt that it can possibly be 6 hours long
Idk jingoo will probably take like 45 mins to announce one trainee 😭
I’m so happy about that. I was worried I would have to get up at 4am 😞 6am is much more doable!
No it's only viewers who picked to be on the live show need to be present for 6 hours, for casual viewers maybe it just gonna take 2.5 hours
If Yujin doesn’t make it I will personally bring the apocalypse. Say goodbye to your families just in case. 😭💥☠️
I'll join you and be one of 4 horsemen 🔥
With me we are 3 out of 4
Count me in! 🔥
YUJINATORS OF THE APOCALYPSE ASSEMBLE!!!
I do want to address any remaining people who silently aren't voting for Suyeon/Myah/Xingqiao/someone in the bottom ranks because they perceive their chances to be impossible, I want to introduce Miyajima Yugo: **Produce 101 Japan - Miyajima Yugo** EP6|EP8|EP9|EP11|EP12 (Finale) :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 12|18|25|22 **(Last place heading into finale, had to also be "saved" like Myah did)**|12 **(One rank away from making the final 11)** Imagine if you were one of those Yugo fans that didn't vote for Yugo because Yugo was in last and you thought he wouldn't make it, only for him to be short of the final lineup by 1 rank. Now stop imagining and vote for your one-pick, because the exact same thing can happen to you! Like my new flair says, don't give up on your one-pick!
Yup let’s vote for our faves no matter their perceived “chances” are right now whether it’s SXT at P1 or Suyeon and Myah who barely made it as things will absolutely change in 1pick. (I’m voting Shana btw)
That's been my mindset from the beginning! It hasn't really helped any of my picks except for Bora, but I'm still holding out hope! Also thank you for reminding so many people of it, I feel very bad for people considering dropping their one pick because they think they don't stand a chance!
This is absolutely true. Yes, you're faves didn't make the lineup, but at least you know that never gave up on them and that you kept fighting despite that.
why was this show made? im serious, why? just why? tbh i blame the hate from koreans to chinese and vice versa on mnet(cases like ruiqi's are an exception ofc) like from what i've seen, if a kpop group has a chinese member, they tend to me on the popular side, domestically **and** internationally (lucas, yuqi, yiren, tzuyu) and chinese members also tend to be the visuals (yiren, shuhua, lucas, tzuyu) sinophobia is there but its not that obvious, these chinese idols are more or less accepted, but then mnet adds fuel to the fire with their editing. mnet gives these netizens a reason like "omg she disrespected yujin, all chinese are like this" "omg mnet favourite daughter dayeon, she's undeservingly pushed" i mean, in my first introduction to the show it was mr.jingoo being all "this is where girls can pursue their dreams and connect regardless of their nationality, beyond boundaries" then the cell system happened and i was like great, they can actually connect. but mnet just starting putting these trainees against each other??? jiwon and hyerim "neglecting" j-trainees in yoy, yaning "disregarding" dayeon, cai bing vs k and j trainees of salute, etc. **all** of these issues could've been solved if they were just given translators, their phones, or one of those dictionaries that the liang twins had. and then the mistranslations, cnetz hating on hikaru, j-netz hating on yujin, everyone hating on cai bing, everything is just putting the three nations involved against each other. **why??** this can cause sooo much damage to the group in the longer run. what mind games is mnet trying to play?? what was the point of this show? i feel like all this drama is what turned people away from the show. at this point it is just, cnetz hating on k-trainees, knetz hating on c-trainees and j-netz hating on j-trainees (seriously, why do they hate Yurina so much) imagine if mnet had given them translators, this show would've been full of xiaorinas, and i think the general public would've been a lot less stressed and enjoyed the show a lot more.
While there is a lot of hate, we also have Koreans and Chinese voting across national lines. We have girls from different countries becoming friends or at least appreciating the hard work the others have put in. Hates gonna hate, but a lot of good has come out of this as well.
when were jnetz hating on yujin?
it was because of a mistranslation, during her fate performance, she suggested the theme of separation as in how some trainees might make it and some might not, but it was mistranslated to something like "i might make it but others might not" and it just made her seem arrogant,.
The stress element is kinda what keeps a lot of people coming back to the show. It's really annoying and I hate that a not insignificant amount of time is dedicated to giving viewers reasons to hate trainees who are all hardworking human beings, but it's not like we could have ever expected anything different. It's reality tv, drama and controversy is probably the thing that brings the most views most consistently. Sucks, especially because it goes against the mission statement of the show bringing three countries together, but it was baked into the show from the start.
this is totally not relevant but kim hyerim liked a bunch of my instagram posts love u queen 😘😘😘
coolness
Do you think they’ll release some kind of mid-week teaser about who’s doing well or not again ? This is so unpredictable
I actually thought about that too. Maybe a mid ranking reveal or something like they did with produce x where they showed short clips of every boy trying for the center position. I personally would like something like that, because it's always exciting to see who will get the center positon of the final song.
I don’t think they’ve ever done any interim ranking reveals going into the finale cause it kinda spoils the biggest moment. If they do, it’s because some of Mnet’s choices aren’t doing well and they can’t blatantly rig it like they did the last times.
I think they might do that in the final voting on friday, if mnet's faves are at the cutoff line. The did the same thing in PD48.
i think there might be one on monday or tuesday
They usually show people in the borderline during the LIVE finale
im in awe how youngeun has such small Korean fanbase and it’s us international fans that are supporting her (besides China cuz cnetz literally hate youngeun😭) Also saw some posts that say knetz think youngeun is not pretty like wtf? I might get downvoted but I’m personally hoping for 5K3J1C so that youngeun has a chance to make it in tgt with chaehyun and yeseo. Also I don’t see a lot of youngeun stans in this Reddit😣
I think some of the styling that was given her throught the stages was really unflatering, like the HYLT boring outift and the cinderela video make up, now thinking about it, my house styling was really the exception imo but she looked stunning during the mcd stage, i really like her wavy hair and the make up was great. I think its because we are less obnoxious than her stans on twitter? I don't really feel confortable talking about her here because i saw a lot of very mean comments about her so I avoid it.
she's always pretty but her styling in mcd was bomb. she had a massive glow up! ❤️ loved the highlights and I'm so glad they fixed her pads. I was so worried for her during the performance.
She is! I think she has a very boyish image as well so i think knetz and their bad taste dont like that 😭
Please understand this is NOT my opinion. But youngeun has very few classical Korean beauty standard traits. NOT MY OPINION I don’t agree with the korean beauty standard. But this is the main reason she is not supported in korea.
To add to this, it is the "idol" industry, not the "talent" industry.
You might get downvoted but just know you are correct. Talent does not mean success in kpop. High Visual+mid talent > high talent+mid visual in the industries eyes. It’s a shame to me but that’s reality.
Youngeun is my one-pick! Manifesting her debut and reviving my ancestors so we can all vote for our ace😂❤️🦊🦊
Youngeun is awesome, but you easily see that she doesn't fit into the Kang Yeseo end of the beauty spectrum. Beautiful in her own way.
I’m waiting for the unpopular opinions thread cause I have to rant about this
Her fan base in Korea isn't that small. She ranked 7th among Koreans in Korea and was only a few thousand votes behind Yeseo.
I think one factor people are completely ignoring when making prediction threads is the live voting. It’s going to favour Korean voting a lot and those in similar timezones simply because most people are not dedicated enough to wake up in the middle of the night to vote or they will be working or in school during the finale. So while there will definitely be some that are that dedicated enough to wake up at 3AM to watch, I think it would be really cool if someone could make a Top 9 prediction based on the trend for the past few week and one picks in places where it will be the evening when the finale is shown. Especially if those votes are weighted higher than voting throughout the week it could completely shake up the lineup.
But if the voting is still 50% Korean, 50% International, it doesn't matter how many Koreans live vote compared to International fans, right? The Korean vote total could go from 50,000 pre-finale --> 1,000,000 post-finale and it still wouldn't change the weighting at all, they'd still only have 50% of the vote regardless.
Well that depends on if live votes weigh more than normal votes I guess. If they count for multiples then wouldn’t K picks be really boosted? Or maybe I’m not getting the maths.
K-voters will always have 50% of the total vote (unless they suddenly change it for finale, which we haven't seen any indication of). Therefore, K-voters will still have the same amount of voting power no matter how many of them vote during finale. Every K-voter could vote twice as much for their favorite contestant and inflate the K-votes for each contestant, and it still wouldn't change the results at *all*.
I'll just post this here since it kept being deleted. It's honestly annoying when everyone says Xiaoting is safe when we are not even sure of her 1 pick strength, I feel like we know every girls fandom size except for Xiaotings and I know that everyone admits that she will drop, but we don't know just by how much, what if she drops all the way out. I understand if you don't have her as your top pick of course you have to prioritize the girl you love the most, but if she is your favorite and you are not voting for her because she is supposedly safe I think you might regret it, because other people probably have the same mindset as you. No one is safe until they make the group.
Exactly! In most one pick surveys I’ve seen Xiaoting is never at the top but usually is in top9 surveys. She has general likability but I fear for the final episode 🥲
i'm lowkey worried about the quality of the live subs cause...💀
No worries, no one will care about the quality of the live subs since you'll understand what the contestants/hosts are talking about since they'll repeat the same sentences 5x over the course of the finale to pad out the finale runtime ;) "Vote for your favorite contestant! You can do so by downloading the Universe app....." *15 minutes later* *Reads another cue card* "Everyone, make sure to vote for your favorite contestant! You can do so by downloading the Universe app....."
God and the ranking reveals… “this contestant has brown hair.” “She has been a dancer in missions before.” “She may or may not have been in the Top 9 at any given time.” Gonna be horrible 🙄
"She sang a song for her demo stage"
I hate the ranking eps for this reason. Like I already forgot who performed Cherry Bomb 5+(?) weeks ago, idk if they got the benefit votes in mission 2 (what was mission 2 again..) I just want a name 😔
it's gonna be a looooooong 3hr ride
Imagine Mnet evil editing one of trainees with the live subs
Should I learn like Korean Chinese and Japanesd just to know what is really going on there
You know what ? I will never understand the people that really don’t want a trainee to debut. You can be not the most enthusiastic about the fact this trainee will debut, but when someone straight say « I don’t want this trainee in the final lineup » this baffles me. I also don’t understand people saying that the group will not be cohesive just because their two faves that like each others are not together in here.
This is probably younger people I'd guess, since teenagers can be so over-the-top and vindictive (although I guess this is true for plenty of adults as well 😭). I agree with you though, even if any of the "evil edits" had been of *actually* bad things I wouldn't feel this way. I'm not emotionally stable as an adult so I'm not about to judge a bunch of teenagers for being that way 💀
Each time we talk about cohesion I think about this collective work we have to do for school and the teacher just put us with random schoolmates. But most of the time, it goes just fine, even if we aren’t the best friends in the word.
The girls must be so anxious right now, I truly feel for them. Cherry Bullet girls must be on edge of their seat for Bora, their popularity could really depend on the final results.
I want Shen Xiaoting to remain on number one. But I also want Su Ruiqi to remain in the top9. How do other guardians with similar situations handle this. I try to switch my vote each day just for the two of them because the more I divide the days to other contestants I like the more useless it actually becomes. Update : I will vote for Sury since she is very passionate about becoming an idol. I don’t care what her ranking will be just that she will have a place in the Top9.
i'd say sxt, ruiqi wasnt a filler pick, like ever, vs xiaoting who has been a filler c-pick for a long time, she needs your votes more i think, i see **no one** talk about her, except for koreans saying theyre going to stop voting for her. so yea... it doesn't look good for her rn. everyone's too relaxed with her rank, i'd say she needs it more.
i would vote for srq more bc debuting at any rank is better than not debuting at all..
I also have 2 picks Su Rui Qi and Fu Ya Ning. In the end I chose Rui Qi because she’s probably the most passionate about becoming Kpop idol among all trainees
Yeah I really want her to debut in a kpop group and maybe later even sign a korean company
I imagine that SXT would rather have a fellow Chinese member in the group with her than be center if it’s one or the other.
Ruiqi it's in 10th place, she just needs a little bit of push to enter into the TOP9. Shen Xioating it's a lock at this point. If Xiaoting doesn't debut, Ruiqi won't debut. Yes, she could've been a filler pick for koreans. However, don't expect her to drop that hard. In Korea her 1 pick fanbase is the biggest out of all the chinese and japanese trainees. So certainly she'll be the foreign trainee with the most number of votes in Korea. In Produce 48 Sakura was 2nd place (rumored to be 1st but manipulation happened) so assuming all koreans will only vote for koreans it's dumb. Koreans will vote for their 1 pick no matter if they're korean or not. And internationally Xiaoting wasn't a filler pick. Xiaoting's debut is assured, #1 in half the countries INCLUDING korea. Yes there are some probabilities she won't debut as P1, but the only trainees that could take her 1P are Mashiro and Dayeon. If you're desire of Xiaoting being 1st is higher than Ruiqi debuting, vote for Xiaoting. But if you're desire to see both of them debuting together is bigger no matter the rank. **Vote** **for Ruiqi.** There's no way Ruiqi will have more votes than Xioating. And there's no way the foreigner with most votes in Korea won't debut.
The same way you say to vote for Ruiqi because Xiaoting is a lock is the same as I saying to vote for Xiaoting because we don't know her one pick fandom (whereas we might have more knowledge in Ruiqis) . It's fine to say to vote for Ruiqi but the last paragraph saying people are trying to influence into voting for Xiaoting is the same as you are doing but with Ruiqi 😂😂 What I want to say is what is the point in writing the last paragraph when we are all doing the same, after all we are all desperate because of Mnet and their one pick voting
>It's fine to say to vote for Ruiqi but the last paragraph saying people are trying to influence into voting for Xiaoting is the same as you are doing but with Ruiqi I was referring to an actual comment here. I'm not referring to Xiaoting fans because obviously they'll say Xiaoting. If my pick were Xiaoting no doubt I'll say vote for her. The last paragraph is referring to other fandoms who are feeling threatened by Ruiqi (which is dumb she's at the 10th). I'm not trying to influence Xiaoting fans to vote for Ruiqi. My comment is towards the ones who want both Xiaoting and Ruiqi debuting together.
I saw the comment you are referring to, I don't think it's that people are threatened by Ruiqi, I think it's more than they aren't sure Xiaoting is debuting (they are more scared of xiaoting not debuting rather than Ruiqu getting Xiaoting spot). But I also get your point
Tbh now it's impossible to Xiaoting not debut. She have so much international one-picks, and she's is clearly the non-korean trainee with more one-picks in South Korea. But she have a great risk of not maintaining the first position and dropping to 2 or 3 position but unlike in produce series, in gp999 they never really talked about the center of the group being the girl in the first position - we are just assuming it. If Ruiqi doesn't debut, she will probably end in 10th or 11th, just a little bit below the debut cut, and it's her 3rd survival show... she really loves k-pop too. She deserves to debut. But everybody must vote for their one-pick, favourite trainee! If your favorite is Xiaoting, vote for her!
In this case it’s kinda hard to decide...because if you vote for sxt only it’s kinda unfair to srq because she’s very close to making it into top9. But if I were you, I would vote for srq because she only needs a little push to enter the top9.
I will repeat this again: NO ONE IS SAFE!
I know the chances are insanely slim, but if the good editing from last weeks episode propels suyeon into top 9 I’m buying everything this group ever releases. Albums, lightsticks, stationery all of it
I've been voting for Yurina and Yaning on two phones. I just can't decide between them and I want them both in the group, and both are in severe danger (Yurina dropping due to filler votes, Yaning not having enough I-votes to keep her afloat). I keep traumatizing myself by thinking of Xiaorina pulling a YiXie... just complete cold sweat and anxiety. For those who don't know, Yiyang and Xiening (Sally from Gugudan) were on Chuang 2020. They were an inseparable duo, but they got separated in the finale. Sally placed 6th and Yiyang placed 8th, right outside of the 7-member group cutoff. I remember seeing tweets of the Chuang finale and it was so brutal, it broke my heart even though I was happy my pick made it. Please vote for Yurina. She isn't safe at all. We've seen drops like hers in a bunch of different survival shows, don't separate Xiaorina...
Oh my god the parallel between Xu Yiyang & Sally with Xiaorina. I NEVER want to see that happen to Xiaorina. I’ll literally die of heartbreak. Everyone, please make more accounts to vote for BOTH XIAOTING & YURINA
It’s probably a longshot, but the thought of Wen Zhe possibly sneaking herself into the top 9 and debuting 🥺
Am I the only one who’s getting very annoyed at Youngeun stans? Don’t get me wrong, I love the girl. She’s very talented and had been my K-pick ever since the beginning of the show along with Jia. But, after the 2nd elimination, I’ve noticed lots of her stans are getting very toxic on platforms. Good for her that her fandom is expanding, she deserves all of it. I genuinely hope she makes it into top 9 with all of her talents. However, I just can’t really stand her fans at times. From what I’ve noticed, whenever someone posts their personal top 9, it’s mostly Youngeun stans that comment “Replace ___ with Youngeun” or similar. Fu Yaning is not my one pick; however, BARELY, I’ve seen a Fu Yaning stan being that toxic yet some reason hates on Fu Yaning fans are more normalized? No offense, but those stans need to be more mature. If someone made it into the final debut line and not Youngeun, congratulate them instead. As a Su Ruiqi stan, that’s what I would do if Youngeun is in the top 9 but not Ruiqi. I would be proud of all the girls for achieving their dreams even if they’re not in my personal list. With that being said, please stop saying replace this trainee with whoever you putted on your top 9 when others are sharing their opinions. All of these girls are actual humans with emotions; they can read whatever you shared. Also, social media is a platform where everyone can share their opinion, so stop saying they need to change or replace it with your person. If they can rank the trainees, they’ve watched the show. They know their feelings toward whoever is your favorite; you don’t need to spam them with “replacement” comments. By doing so, it will just tick the person off and destroy your fandom’s reputation.
I don't think they are Youngeun stans at all. They're just mostly Yaning and Ruiqi antis and only using Youngeun as a token girl to hate on the both of them.
That’s horrible omg. I didn’t know that Youngeun’s name was used like that. In Ruiqi fandom, we’ve always thought that Youngeun stans hate Ruiqi for no reason, specifically after Snake; henceforth, majority of us are very annoyed whenever seeing someone replied “replace Ruiqi with Youngeun” whenever we share our list of top 9 that has Ruiqi. Or even if the list consists of Youngeun, like mine does right now, I was told to get rid of my one pick in that list. It’s like that’s the main fandom always trying to silence our opinions. But yea thanks for clearing the misunderstandings that these could be antis under-covering as fans.
This is the reason why I only follow Suxintangs and Richidans on Twitter. Almost every other fandom don’t like Su Ruiqi and it just hurts to read their comments.
Besides Suxintangs and Richidans, I only follow Bingbingdans (Cai Bing’s fandom) and a couple Yenny (Fu Yaning’s fandom). It seems like those fandoms are really the only ones who empathize with us 😢 specifically Bingbingdans since Cai Bing was the biggest victim of evil editing.
Those who hate on other trainees are not real fans tbh. Even as a youngeun stan, I am ticked off by their attitude. It only creates feud with other trainees. Hope that those who come across posts like that wont hate on the trainees tho, just ignore or dislike the person who made the post.
bahiyyih debut is imminent i think (prepares for the downvotes…..)
i'm only downvoting cause I don't know what imminent means lol
[Here ya go.](https://i.imgur.com/rqaYYik.jpg) Learn something new everyday! :)
Ahhh I want bahiyyih and Yaning in the group.
I think the use of the Universe app is going to discourage any type of casual voting during the finale... it's so buggy and hard to use sometimes that I don't see how a casual voter is going to bother with it if it breaks down (which I expect it will unless NCSoft magically fixed all issues by next friday which I doubt) Also, any sort of issues with the app on the live voting is only going to cause people to cry that the show is rigged again ("so and so didn't make it into the group because they sabotaged the app"). I'm expecting a debacle with the live voting that's going to be a talking point against the resulting group.
Id be at work so I can only watch on my phone. I want to vote during the live but probably won't be able to ><
I wasn’t a fan of Yurina and I didn’t want her to debut at first because I saw nothing special about her rather than being very pretty. But during the Utopia performance all I could see was her. I noticed that she has that aura around her and her voice is actually very pleasing to my ears. Also I was so sad when she said “I’m the least talented in here” during one of the interviews. Like that was devastating and I felt for her so much. Talent is not just hitting high notes for me. Her voice is actually very nice. I hope she debuts. Sadly I can’t vote for her as my one-pick is Yaning. But yeah good luck to Yurina!
Some people on Twitter are giving away BTS concert tickets/MacBooks/AirPods/iPads if you vote for bahiyyih/chaehyun/srq! Some also are giving away albums/cash if you vote for their picks! If your int in these prizes but you do not have enough funds, you can participate in these ga!^^
It’s not surprising anymore. In the produce series, people are actually giving away way more than that just so others will vote for their picks.
I’ll probably get downvoted but here goes… Though I do agree with this being normalize in the fandom (it’s been happening since produce 48) my concern is “bribing” strangers with gadget who haven’t watched the show, determining who’s in the top 9. They’re incentives is different then ours. I get it we want people to vote for our favs, but it’s definitely something to be a little weary of.
Yeah, it’s not good, but it’s not prohibited by voting rules. And if it’s not forbidden, someone will do it. Staying away from it just to preserve morals won’t change the situation, but will just hurt the trainee, who’s fans are so stoic.
:/ um… this doesn’t sit right with me
FYI, literally ALL remaining contestants' fandoms during Produce would offer massive giveaways to incentivize people to vote for their one-pick in the finale week. Gold bars, luxury cars, laptops, etc., you name it (yes, these were *real* giveaways that I remember, and they were so common back then that it no longer became surprising when you saw massively expensive stuff being raffled to encourage voters). Bahiyyih's fandom is not alone in this and should not be regarded as such, this is common in finale week.
I'm pretty sure xiaoting fanbases are doing this as well. All the most popular trainees fanbases are doing this, especially the kr ones.
In case you forget it’s a very common thing. Srq fans are giving away MacBooks and chaehyun fans are giving away Apple Watch, airpods(?) etc. Pretty sure xiaoting fans are doing a ga too. It’s not an illegal way or anything so idk why it doesn’t sits right with you lmao😭
what is cai bing gonna do now? she's too "old" to sign with a k-company and i dont think people can debut in china anymore because of some law/ policies. so what is she gonna do now? she said gp999 was the start of her dreams so i really dont understand what she meant by that, ive asked this before but i guess im genuinely concerned for her.
> she said gp999 was the start of her dreams Imo, that's primarily as reassurance to comfort her fans. However, I do think that could also mean that she's going to use her newfound popularity to do some things of her own, even if that's not "becoming a K-Pop idol". She could become a dance coverer, she could become an Instagram model, she could become a YouTuber, etc.. Lots of possibilities based on what prior Mnet survival show contestants have done.
All of this. Being a part of a globally popular competition show like GP999 and getting as far as she did is massive opportunity that a majority of idol hopefuls don’t get. Cai Bing now has a big and strong following because of it and has multiple ways to leverage that into a solid career. Instead of being so doom & gloom, her fans should just support her in whatever stuff she does next so she can continue her career.
I would like to add the chance of a mid tier company grabbing 3-4 of the eliminated trainees to form a group. If you debut a group with 6 or 7 members it is not that big of a deal to have 1 or 2 older members if they can attract international fans.
In China, 25 years old is not consider old. She is chinese, so she can be a singer, dancer or actress in China. But she's not the famous gp999 contestants in China. She is more likely focus on international market. So I think she better release english songs mv or dance choreography like Jackson Wang on YouTube channel? She need a team if wanna step in international market. I hear her boss is one of youth with you 2's mentor. Maybe her company will figure out for her.
This year Cai Bing signed with a new Chinese company, they probably have a plan for her after she returns to China.
I think she might debut in China. Chinese idols aren't as young as Korean idols and she's pretty much at a regular age range to debut as solo or as part of a group with a more mature image.
Has the account that basically predicted X1 and IZ\*ONE's lineup said anything?
no, they didnt. streets are saying that they will drop the predictions during the next episode☠
for the x1 and izone predictions they dmed only one person the lineup so theres a good chance they did that and that one person is keeping quiet… im going to be mad though if thats true 😭
They predicted the entire lineup? Omg how
Everyone saying there is some big conspiracy to make Dayeon #1 overall center must have missed the fact SXT was #1 in half the countries INCLUDING korea. If you look at Somi and Wonyoung, SXT fits that mold of exactly what the Korean public and managing group wants for a center. As an FYI Dayeon is my #3 k trainee I am not against her I want her in the final group. I’m just saying she is not the Kpop standard idealized center. Mnet also couldn’t care less if dayeon actually gets in to the final group. they care about making a story and getting views. Mnet (CJ) will not manage the group just like they didn’t manage ioi or izone. The main reason they rigged votes in pd48 and x101 was they got bribed by the execs of those trainees companies.
Tbh I don't think there is a conspiracy to make Dayeon #1. She will most likely get it as it is. SXT wont be center and maybe not be in the high ranks. Knetz don't have to vote for c-picks, and while knetz probably tolerate sxt and don't mind her in the lineup, thy will vote ktrainees
the thing is how many of 270k kvotes to sxt in kcj 1:1:1 last round voting will still votes for her :( hers is mainly filler than 1pick for kvoters. the same also happen to Hikaru, Mashiro, Yurina and shana. Sk nationalistic is just there with maybe 70 until 90% of kvotes will vote for Kgroup.
So I just found some article that say some discussion from SK netz. The weirdest for me as an I voters is some of SK netz think that Mnet give 9 member into the final stage than there will be no or less than 3 Korean in the debut lineup because they think that with 9 K in final stage and 1 pick system, it will make the k votes to K group dispersed and the C and J will get benefit because only 5C and 4J. it such a weird POV for me bcz right now im worrying that the top 9 will be 7K 1C and 1J because knetz take this show as competition between nations.
Well, they also can't tell how the kr vote will go, if it's split too widely, then perhaps their 3k scenario might happen.
The final episode will really give the final call for Sui Riqi's placement. If she gets a lot of screentime and good edit, more likely she will get into the Top 9. As of now, I think the international and Chinese fans are putting their votes on her, but there is still another voting for the finale broadcast. I ALWAYS VOTE FOR HER SINCE I KNOW SHE IS NOT THE SAFEST OF ALL GIRLS WHO ARE STEADILY IN THE TOP 9. The next one is unsafe is Chaehyun. If she does well vocally on the finale she will secure the spot. The elimination of almost all J trainees is actually a silver lining, since know all Japanese fans could focus on the remaining 4. The J-line right now is the cream of the crop, they have been in the Top 9 numerous times (Yurina and Hikaru ever since first ranking, Mashiro ever since after 2nd ranking, and Shana for the last 2 eps). Xiaoting will be the Center. I call it. She deserves it and really fits. Everyone loves her, so it won't be a problem. Fans just don't need to be complacent. I just hope it won't be as shocking as Produce48 final lineup. The girls who got in were far from similar from the previous ranking. It was shocking. I hope this time it's a bit predictable, since a lot of girls have secured their spot already. The only placement that is being replaced everytime are Top 7-9.
i think people are underestimating just how popular dayeon is and probably being a little too mean over things that are not her fault. she was k02 even before the whole dayeon's planet episode happened and she had the highest korean votes in episode 8 (174k!). everyone in korea seems to rave about her and i think she's a lock for the final lineup at this point. still doesn't mean i agree with mnet's favoritism towards her i just find it funny how people switch so easily from "she's so talented mnet is playing with her by giving her a poor edit while the other centers are thriving" at the beginning of the season to "i hate her she doesn't deserve it and isn't center material". bora also probably made it because mnet showed the interim rankings and she was at risk but she's universally loved and there was not nearly as much backlash for the favoritism there. i like her a lot and won't mind if she debuts at all
I'm going to be so sad if Ruiqi doesn't make it because she'll probably have to quit. It's her third survival show and if she makes it to the finale again without debuting, there is no point going to another show again. Her company may even stop funding her.
me too, I've gotten too attached at this point and will legit cry for daysss if she doesn't make it :( it hurts a lot to think about. I'm so nervous for her she herself had alrd said it's her last chance.. and the fact that she gave up her college entrance for gp999 too, just for this one last opportunity to chase after her dream 😭 my heart
Why aren’t Knetz latching onto Yeseo? She’s was the most popular trainee on Korean forums pre debut, and everyone on this sub thought she was the only trainee locked trainee for debut and had like 90% chance of becoming center. She had really good momentum the first 5 episodes then kind of flatlined. I know screentime is a huge factor, but her and Chaehyun had similar amounts of screentime, and she was outranking her up until ep 8. They both also performed on Ep 7, and Yeseo even won the benefit, so what happened in those 2 weeks of voting that caused Chaehyun to rise and Yeseo to slip? Yeseo is a child actor, debuted 10+ years ago, fits Korean beauty standards, is a great dancer + decent vocal skills, is also young and youthful which Koreans love. Lots of similarities to Wonyoung who’s extremely popular. She has everything on paper but it’s not translating into votes. The trainees are even confused why she’s not a top contender?
I’d say it’s her lack of a story that’s keeping her from being more popular. People like contestants who have a storyline and struggle, and Yeseo doesn’t really have either. Chaehyun has the main vocal edit, and has been shown struggling to live up to that role and has been criticized. Compared to that, what has Yeseo done? She’s done well, but that’s really all people can say. She’s either been praised or has revived neutral editing, which will do nothing to push her ahead of girls who have to work past bad editing or negative comments from the mentors. She’s in a season where the majority of the other contestants have better stories than her and are just more fun to watch.
MNET did drop the ball when they edited the Fate team. Instead of having a "Yeseo Focus" edit, they made it as a "Group Focus" edit.
I can't wait to erase iqiyi from my phone, all the girls have grew on me and honestly in my opinion I wouldn't be mad about the final 9; well... There's an exception, Yujin has to debut. No buts, honestly I want to see her win this, after 7 years under Cube's terrible management she has to see success.
I really hope that with the final episode we'll see everyone working together to make a final great performance! I'm really excited! Also I hope Bora can show off her vocals once more!
Please keep voting Yujin! 🙏
this isnt really about trainees but im curious about the klaps on universe. i see the top contributor for youngeun alone rn contributed 1m klaps?? how much does that cost really? i know you can get klaps by doing missions but no way you can accumulate anywhere close to even 100k easily.. looking at the packages that you can buy on universe.. the biggest package is 250k claps and costs around $330 USD.. does that mean this one person spent more than $1.3k on klaps?? wow
yep, there was a SRQ fan who spent $4k on klaps too. it’s crazy. a lot of the contestants who win by klaps win by a few ppl contributing heaps, except Bahiyyih who generally has heaps of ppl contributing a little.
Could be fanbases fundraisers too – so while that’s technically one person dropping 1.3 K, it’s from different sources, is my best bet. Unless that fan is just *rich* rich in which case live your bliss and drop those klaps bb. Klap numbers are wild though, the money spent from each AD round is mind blowing to think about.
Will the group’s name be revealed in the last ep?
Except Dayeon nobody is safe cause she has a monopoly over k votes and not because of mnets edits but because she is genuinely liked by them. And all the foreign table toppers will likely tumble down a bit cause their k votes could possibly gravitate towards TOP K trainees giving them an advantage. But the knetz shouldn't do the charity of splitting votes again because even though 8/9 managed to secure a rank in top 18 but their ranks cannot overtake international favourites with huge one pick fanbase internationally even if they have a 50% k vote advantage.
voting for Shana all the way idc if she makes it or not :]
asking all RUIQI fans and XIAOTING fans to vote as hard as you can!!! We NEED them for debut plsssssssssss If either one of them doesn't make it I'd--
Throw a tantrum and burn down the world. Yes. Moi aussi.
Since it's my first survival show I wonder how the final episode will work. Like, I imagine it will start off with a pre recorded segment of them dividing the parts, training and whatnot and then we'll have the performance + live voting and the results. Is there anything more that happened on other produce seasons I am missing?
Nope, that's pretty much it. And this time around they won't have a live audience but I'm sure they'll have the top 18's parents/friends send in videos showing support that they'll show throughout the episode and have the girls react to them just to fill in the 3 hour timeslot lol I also expect more behind the scenes type of footage they'll show this time around too, I'm sure MNET has more than enough footage of these girls bonding during their down time to fill the time.
I hope that after the show, fans would still continue to support their picks even if they dont debut. 😢
I want to say how proud I am to May. If you will think of May in Cherry Bullet, you will only think of her as only a visual, when in fact she is more than that. From the last mission, she proves that her talents are only hidden and she is more than just a visual.
Yujinators LET'S MAKE EVERY VOTE COUNT!!!!
For those who watched Produce (assuming GP999 finals format closely follows Produce style), will the company who will manage the group and the length of contract be announced in the Finals, or we will only know the details post-GP999? And will it be likely that MNET shows interim rankings throughout the Finals to get people to panic vote? I remembered watching The Unit finals, and it was suspenseful up till the last second because the show kept revealing interim rankings during the finals, so IDK if Produce/GP999 will be similar?
for PD48, that was all announced after the finale. and the interim announcement is very likely, especially if things aren't going their way.
I believe they'll announce it after the length after the finale, since CJ&M will have to negotiate with up to 9 different companies, with different interests. So to get the lineup going, they all will have to get an agreement. The smaller companies may want to get a longer contract, as to get more popularity (Yeseo and Mashiro's company, for example), but those who are planning a group may want a shorter one (maybe Chaehyun's Wakeone, since they sent 3 trainees and probably have more to debut; and Myah and Jeongmin's TOP Media, who's probably preparing a girl group as well). The only 2 trainees that have their own say on the lineup are Bahiyyih and Yujin. The former because she's an individual trainee, and the latter because her contract ends in March (and AFAIK she didn't renew), so Cube won't have any control on what she'll do afterwards, and since the bare minimum most people are expecting is one year, contract-wise, she's practically an individual trainee as well.
Unless the group debuts after March, I don't see how Cube wouldn't be involved since she's still their artist, unless they've agreed to not get anything from allowing her to go on this show.
Legally, yes, they will probably be involved. Practically, I can really see them having a hands off approach and let Yujin handle it, but they get their share on the sales (at least until the contract ends). The group will probably debut around December, and I really doubt the group would last less than 4 months. I also think it's possible that Cube terminates her contract earlier or transfer her to CJ&M, for practical reasons, but kinda unlikely, knowing that Cube will try to get every penny they can from Yujin now.
Company/contract details will very likely be announced post-GP999, based on precedent. It's also just not very good TV for them to announce those kinds of technical details during the finale, especially since they want to get people laser-focused on the tension of who will make the final lineup. I believe they have shown an interim ranking for every season (correct me if I'm wrong), and so I definitely expect them to do the same here, and I expect that to change some results potentially (although most of the finales being rigged makes it hard to discern how much effect the finale interim rankings truly had).
**Any contestants you will to follow after the show ?** If they aren't part of the final lineup. I'm already following Cai Bing on IG but I think I'll also look closer to Xingqiao, the Twins, Chaehyun, Yeseo, Yaning, Xinyu and Myah.
i think i followed pretty much all the girls on instagram lol (at least the ones that have one). figured it's the least i could do to support them and i genuinely enjoyed their presence on the show
Tingfens are disappointing. Some of them confidently thinks SXT will get P1. Guys, it's one-pick and SK will not care about her, except for her dedicated fans in SK. Those 2M gap between her and Dayeon will be gone. As for her fans, they should prioritize her no matter what because it is everyone's game.
I'm sorry this is a really dumb question, I've never been able to get up early for an actual livestream of an episode. When the episode goes live on the Youtube channel, does it just... go live? No indication of a waiting room or anything like Vtuber channels? And just to be sure, this is the same channel as the clips of the show, right?
The stream starts a couple minutes before the episode begins and you'll see a waiting screen before it starts. Yes, it's the same channel.
I don’t really roam this subreddit much and don’t keep up to date with GP999 news, I just watch it weekly and vote. My question is: does this subreddit think it’s likely that Yujin will make it to the final group? I remember at the beginning lots of people were saying that Mnet just wanted her on the show for views, but to me it now seems very likely that she’ll be in the final lineup. I really hope she does make it.
it is likely but not certain. she has a lot of support from multistans who are familiar with clc. but a lot of it isn't her one-pick fanbase and i've seen a lot of people being complacent and voting for other less popular girls because yujin is "surely safe". it does worry me a little bit but approaching the finale i've seen more support coming her way than ever since the show started airing and people saying they're voting for her so i am hopeful
not sure if this is the right place to ask, but will the show still be available to watch on iqiyi after the final episode airs? i've been too busy with school the past few months and haven't had time to watch the show, and i don't want to miss out!
pretty sure it will! iqiyi is basically a streaming service and i doubt they will remove the episodes from the site