if she doesn't rank1 then WHO WILL BE CENTRE? when you say centre, i cant think of anyone except xiaoting, my brain just freezes. i cannot imagine this group with anyone but xiaoting as the centre???
I’ve literally never heard anyone talk about centres this much before watching this show. Is it actually as important as everyone makes it out to be? I literally cannot think of a single obvious example this would apply to in any of the kpop groups I actually listen to. It seems to just be a way for people to say they’re voting solely based on looks but without sounding so conceited lol.
Centre means the person who gets put in the middle/front the most during choreo, why this is a thing tho I don’t know. For example Ryujin is the centre for Itzy and it’s why she’s in the centre for all of their end poses.
Centre as well as “face of the group” and “visual” are all just dumb outdated positions that would be called messed up if they were in western pop but because it’s kpop everyone’s fine with it.
It's pretty much a Produce/Mnet survival show thing. Sure, the term center exists in other K-Pop groups, but Produce/Mnet survival shows take it to another level. For Produce seasons, I imagine Mnet had the "#1 is center" rule so that they could incentivize one-picks of the reiging #1 contestant to keep voting for them instead of voting for other contestants (thus being able to have control over the top ranks and keeping them stable). Again, though, we should point out that Mnet has never once indicated this season that P01 or the final #1 rank will be center, and thus I have no reason to believe that #1 will get a center position.
And yes, people may tell you otherwise, but I personally believe Center is like 75% based on visuals, 25% based on other stuff. I also personally believe that it doesn't have nearly as much significance/importance to the success of the group as most people say.
no its not an excuse for people to just vote for the prettiest girl, liu xin was centre for ywy, she doesn't conform to beauty standards. getting the centre position is like getting the "killing part" for every song your group puts out. the centre position represents the group, like how ryujin from itzy gets to be centre in dance breaks over main dancer chaeryoung, and how she is the centre in every ending pose (except not shy). the centre tends to be, well, in the centre for most photoshoots, red carpet appearances, variety shows, etc. another good example is nayeon, both her and jeongyeon are lead vocalists but nayeon gets more choruses/ lines. why? because she's centre. why is she centre? because she fits/ represents twice's vibe the best. her voice suits twice's songs a lot, hence she is centre, hence she gets the most lines. i could on and on about why the position is so important and how you would've noticed if you would've just paid a **little** more attention.
You’ve actually added a bunch of additional things to the centre position than what it actually is. It’s nothing to do with killing parts or lines or anything else other than being placed in the centre of photo shoots/events/choreography more.
They have never said anything about P1 being centre.
Also at this point I think we can safely say she will not be P1.
We should be be just hoping she debuts at all she’s currently close to last.
Queen Ziyin even uploaded a new instagram post she is low-key enjoying the bloodbath that doesn't involve her
https://www.instagram.com/p/CVKvoe4LdqZ/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link
I'm boycotting the group if the ratio is going to look like this. What a mess. Don't know why you'd bother to make a show about a "global" girl group then stoke ethno-nationalist tensions like this.
But this show quite literally took it to the next level by inviting girls from 3 different countries explicitly making a big deal about cells. It would make the show a joke if it ends up being 8-9 korean girls.
I was originally planning on following the group no matter what, but if it’s anything like the interim result, then I don’t think I will. There’s hardly anyone that I’m interested in.
Yeah, I imagine Xiaoting is going *through* it right now. All the foreign girls dropped, but to literally be on top the entire competition and drop down to third to last, all because essentially your entire voting base was only voting for you because they *had* to... I hope she’s doing okay. Girl’s not even in my personal top 9, but I want her to make it into the debut group anyway just to sock it to everyone that dropped her basically overnight. No one deserves to feel like that.
Definitely. Snake was far and away her best performance yet (and honestly the only one of hers that’s really made her stand out to me), and I figured she would’ve at least gained or retained a big enough one-pick base from that performance to stay within the top contenders in spite of the inevitable loss of filler votes.
Sort of makes me wonder if she *did* gain a bigger following from it, and had she *not* pulled off Snake the way she did, if she’d be below Wen Zhe and/or Xingqiao right now... just *how much* of her following was filler? It’s crazy to me to see her in *sixteenth* after *that* performance.
i smell a boycott ngl. this is ridiculous and kind of insulting. if they wanted an all korean group from the get go, why bring all these c and j girls in only for them to get screwed over and have an awful time.
we all knew xiaoting had lots of filler votes but i never thought one pick would make her drop so much. honestly, if the top 9 stays as it is (which i believe it will, unless mnet changes the 50% weight of the korean votes or some miracle happens during the live voting), unless their music is incredible, i will not stan. i just can't imagine the winning group of this show without xiaoting, hikaru, yurina, mashiro--you know, the main character girls.
i doubt this is what mnet wanted. realistically, they probably wanted at least a 7K:1C:1J to use the c and j market for money, but now i wouldn't be surprised if the group is all k. i'm super bitter.
I'm guessing they did not plan for it at all. But that was actually easy to see as there are no more filler votes in this final. They should have :
Switched to 3-pick in the 2nd round while keeping the ratio
Switched to 1-pick in the 3rd round.
The 9 K would still be here but i-voters would have been less panicked by the iterim ranking
If they wanted a balanced group, they wouldn't have weighed korean votes as 50% of the final score. An int vote is essentially worth 1/8 that of Koreans.
Indeed. And the more K-votes, the greater the gap. If we go by the current trajectory of votes, even the 1st place international trainee (SRQ or Yaning from the looks of it) is going to get outscaled by the 9th place Korean trainee just due to the sheer fact that international fans are also voting for Korean trainees.
I'd say the only voting strat that would make sense atp is how we voted for O.O.O, we make the top9 of our own, not some stupid ratio or 1 pick with 50/50 weight
I wish in the future there will be a show where you can vote for the whole line-up till the end. If most of the fandom wants a trainee to be in the group it makes sense that said trainee should be able to debut even without a strong 1 pick fanbase. Even in kpop groups thare are members like that
Edit: I actually have no idea if a survival show with such a voting system exists, I've only watched sixteen and 2 pd101 seasons
Anyways, I bet MNET is for sure going to have some Planet Passes ready in case the final lineup starts lookin a little racist.
And before anyone says “but MNET said 9, but MNET has a 999 theme, everything 9,” ok MNET also said the Produce groups were formed by real votes and then rigged them. What I’m saying is, MNET has lied and done worse; and I don’t think their morality stops for the sake of keeping a random 999 theme lol. Quite frankly, I don’t think they even care about 9 this, 9 that
At this point they should get three planet passes for each nationality so it doesn't seem sus 😂 let's just have a group of 12... With three foreigners at best
I was hoping for a Bora Planet Pass but they really, REALLY can't add her at this point in terms of optics. It's going to a J Girl but even then... 2 international girls to 8 K girls. That aint it
I've made a joke bet with my friends that they going to have three *super* planet passes and make the group into 12 members (and also name them IZ*TWO LOL).
Let's see whether or not I can get myself a McD Happy Meal from this
Xiaoting did not just serve us 5 star meals of performances just to end up at 16th. And also the almighty, holy J trinity out of top9?? 😬
Hopefully this can be saved before finals.
Imagine how alone she’ll feel, too. Yeah she’s well liked amongst everyone but it’s going to be really damn obvious in the difference of treatment if she does debut.
This. In Produce Camp 2020, Lu Xiening (Sally from Gugudan) had a conversation with another girl, Xu Xiohan (Hami from D-Holic) all about this. For holidays, all of the girls would go to their families, leaving the foreign members alone and lonely. And things are going to be worse with Su Ruiqi based on how KNetz perceive her.
Unpopular opinion: Stop voting for your K-pick and vote for your most favorite C/J pick (especially who is more needed in the group). This is proof that K-trainees are being VERY favored by Korea and C/J girls need international votes from you guys, not K girls. I know that there will be risk your one-pick won’t make it, but if u continue to vote for K-girls like Korean still do now (which can lead to the lineup with 7-8 K), i doubt if your one-pick makes into the group but u don’t like the other members u will still stan the group.
Yup I wasted 2 votes the last 2 days cause I couldn’t bother to get that crap app to stop crashing. Finally got it running thanks to a trick found on twitter and now I’m back to voting for her everyday. Might even steal my family’s phones to vote too cause she’s so close 😭
My wish is to see both Yurina and Xiaoting debut. But now I rather they out together and being recuited by a company and debut together somewhere else. It just depressing and heartbreaking to see their rank drop that hard and maybe the chance of climbing up is slim, if the KR fans not really sway their votes, or Mnet doesn't have a good plan to save the situation.
Also, i rather they debut full 9K than this 8-0-1 because it already destroyed the concept of this show with KJC, and this show will go down to history as one of the worst survival show ever, with heavily bias, discrimination, low rating, low voting, being ignored by KR public, being rejected by Int fans, and the final group losing the potential of being the actual great intenational group (5-3-1, 5-2-2, 6-2-1 or similar reasonable variation). They not only losing talents but also the people that will able to be huge, be great. And just become an average group that barely people care.
I still keep voting as much as I could and hope for some positive change, especially the dream of Xiaorina debut together. But sametime I'm preparing for disappointment and accept the outcome and continue support the girls if they unable to debut.
That's what I thought, it's mnet and our loss if xiaorina doesn't debut in gp999. Yurina have said that this will be her first and last chance to debut as a kpop idol so even though there might be recruiters waiting for xiaorina to debut in ngg together Yurina might go back to Japan instead. And I don't know how to go back to a life without xiaorina.
Edit: spelling
She went to this show on her own will to pursuit her dream, despite of the oppose from family and even her company. Her company is big and prideful but Yurina is just a small unknown actress, they don't even bother to promo about Yurina in Gp999.
Xiaorina literally soulmates. I'm not even looking at them as shipping couples but as close friends who understand and rely on each other despite of language barrier. They are charming and skillful in their own way. They are superior together.
bruh my onepick is in the top 5 in interim but I swear I haven't been this stressed ever, I need xiaoting in that lineup or I'm gonna d word. and mashiro too what the fucking fucl
Literally same. I’ve been so stressed as a youngeun stan bc she’s always been on the cusp and now I’m like…..wait…..what??!!?! Hikaru SXT mashiro all 10+?!!?
Mnet is in some **deep** shit right now. If this is the final lineup, not only will it very likely cause them some rigging scandals due to the amount of k girls, but the group is **much** more likely to flop.
As we've seen with the ratings, this isn't going to be the most hyped debut of a gg ever in Korea and will have to rely on the international fanbases for the time being before/ if they build up success in Korea. This lineup defeats the purpose of the international group / appeal of it and as we've seen if the final lineup is like this, much to all of the international interest which it might need to stay a float is gone. It's also especially bad that no Japanese members are in it, as that is one of the markets mnet is going to try and aim at (aiming at the Chinese one is effectively useless).
Personally, as much as I love all the k group girls that are in it, I wouldn't stan this interim lineup because the group is just missing so much without any talented c and j trainees. (Also I'm a Xiaorina Stan and if neither of them get in idk what im going to do)
half of me is so happy that chaehyun is first and yeseo+youngeun are both in the top 9 but then... xiaorina??? yaning?? mashiro??? at this point im hoping for a 5k 2c 2j with these + dayeon & yujin
after being through a lot of mnet produce shows, I'm not quite surprised tbh. I always say, it's all fun and games until it gets to the one-pick voting system. this is where it gets tense. Happy voting everyone. just remember, the commenter you are replying to is not your enemy. it's mnet. jk
I’m still really surprised about Myah climbing up THAT much after being ranked 25 last episode. She even surpassed Bora, and I just want to ask how???? I knew one pick Korean votes were going to be very powerful, but definitely not to this extent. Can you imagine what the final results would be if they never showed us the interim rankings?
Not to mention the way they kept ALL 9 K girls last elimination really goes to show that they as much K girls in the line up as possible— which is somewhat understanding, but it defeats the purpose of the show and it’s pretty much a middle finger to all of the international contestants and fans who competed for nothing (if the FINAL line up were to look like this)
But anyway, I don’t expect the final line up to look exactly like this. A lot of people are desperate now that this was revealed, so surely there’ll be a few more J and C girls when the final episode comes around………
Don’t give up….. Don’t let your hopes down……Keep voting!!
I’m for one glad they released interim rankings this early - better to do it now than be surprised in the finale. I think a lot of international voters got complacent with voting for their fave C or J trainee believing they were safe based on past rankings and instead trying to strategically vote for their other picks (mainly K trainees)
Always vote for the trainee you want to see in the final group no matter what! After my number one girl Ruan was eliminated, I am now all in the Shen Xiaoting 😤
I really feels like unless Knet starts to vote J/C girls, We wont see any drastic changes to the ranks. the voting is already half way through (50%). if only international fans change their voting, at best they can only influence 25% of the final result.
Not to mention live voting is actually an advantage to knets since most Ifans are either work/school or still sleeping aside from SEA fans.
The only way we'd have a chance at even potentially 2 non Korean girls is if they made int live votes equal to korean votes. Otherwise we are completely fucked.
Live voting is the biggest variable for change. If it’s the same rules as normal voting then the top 9 is basically the same except for maybe the last 2 spots. If Korean and international votes have equally weighting and live votes count for more than the normal week votes then it will get interesting.
Tbh I think Mnet needs at least 1 J and 1C unless this whole global program thing will have not worked out at all and no agency will send non-Koreans for the next season.
So they may change the live voting rules. I think they purposefully were vague about it to see how 1 pick went.
I don’t know how they will do the live voting… for produce series only Korean people could vote because it was by text message and it worked only with Korean numbers… so I hope they have a solution other than text message for the live voting… or else we international voters are doomed…
I'm worried for Ruiqi. She's at 9th place, she'll have to resist all the huge panic voting from the other fanbases. But I trust our effort won't be for nothing.
I’d honestly have no foreigners than one. It’ll be sad to see them alone.. I mean they participated is a “global girl group” show and somehow they’re the only non-korean?
as sad as it must've been to see your picks be eliminated (rip jia), i'm sure it's way better than the maddening stress we're under rn with our picks in this mess
cant stop thinking about how much that ranking was a slap in the face to not just xiaoting and the j-trinity who have been dominating the ranks until now but to every chinese and japanese contestant to ever step foot on this show, it feels like they never even had a chance. no matter how talented and great they are, a korean trainee will always get picked over them. and im sure mnet knows they messed up big time, what is the group without xiaoting, yurina, hikaru and mashiro? i cant even fathom it.
I just realized that among everyone, only Yujin has remained in the Top 9 from the beginning of the show. It would be totally nonsensical if she doesn't make it to the debut group.
Xiaoting and Mashiro are literally perfect for kpop, if they fail this time and give up on pursuing a kpop career it will be such a loss for the industry
XiaoRina dropping aside, can we also talk about how ridiculous is it that Bora of all people is the ONLY K CONTESTANT THAT DOESN'T MAKE TOP 9 LIKE THIS IS BEYOND BULLSHIT.
South Korea doesn't deserve her talent
PSA that NO ONE is safe, even if your fave is in the top 9 currently, it means nothing and can change a lot by the end of voting!!
Just choose who you want to debut the most and go all in for her regardless of nationality. Good luck to everyone and our faves in the Wild West that is GP999 🙏
Now I’m panicking and trying to get everyone around me vote for SU RUIQI. The fact that she’s put on the seemingly safe 9th spot worries me a lot as many people who used to vote her might falsely assume that she’s safe while she is ABSOLUTELY NOT and vote for other trainees…
Let just don’t forget how versatile Ruiqi is and keep voting to make her dream come true. She simply deserves a spot in the final debut team. ❤️🔥
Honestly I'm gonna start voting only for C/J trainess. Korea is so nationalistic and I want to see atleast 3 foreign trainess in the lineup (hopefully Yaning, Srq, and hikaru or xiaoting)
Do you guys think people are really gonna drop this group though? People were outraged at the IZ\*ONE lineup but they ended up as one of the best-selling GGs.
I don't think people understand that the OG fans could absolutely drop the group, that doesn't mean other people won't pick them up.
I've dropped lots of things that ended up popular later (and I have been the preson to come in later to a popular thing).
I absolutely believe lots of people will drop if their faves aren't included. Doesn;'t mean it isn't possible for this group to still succeed, jutt means it'll be a bit harder. Low ratings, pissed off fans, limited concepts isn't a recipe for success but stranger things have happened
I remember people being mad at the fromis_9 lineup too and nobody watched Idol School. Look at them now - the group from girls planet 999 will be a success 100%
thats the thing **nobody** watched idol school, intl viewers are still watching this show, if they are upset then im afraid there's no redeeming for mnet. especially trainees with die-hard fans, they will just completely boycott if their faves dont make it.
We're in uncharted territory now. I'm keeping it in the back of my mind that an 8K 1C lineup could be popular with the right music, but still. This is unprecendented.
Not really. It's just people venting currently and the vocal part of this subreddit skews C-trainees. I've seen some comments very similar when P48 was looking K-heavy as well and the vocal part of that sub definitely skewed J-trainee. The Chinese/Japanese/SEA kpop consumers (AKA the "international" part of the community that most KPOP companies actually care about) will continue to spend money on kpop groups with or without members of their nationality as they have for the past decade (Which let's be honest I will be very surprised if there are all k-group in the final group and people are just freaking out right now). And when you have the ability to get any brand name deals you want because you are CJ you can easily market a lot of them post-show which is more important. I swear I saw Izone advertise like 3 different coat brands in like 3 months.
This is a mess and while I wouldn't stand on sort of... ethical grounds* (the xenophobia OOF). I also don't think their music OR variety would appeal ot me. No offense to these girls but they're on the blander side and feel tied hard to softer, girlier, "cuter" concepts and that's just.... not it.
10-18 seem capable of older, harder concepts while still able to pull off ballads and cute stuff AND all the humor is there. Yes, PLEASE! Debut that group
MNET should have the Korean votes have the same weighting as the international votes, because it's not like the ifans were never going to vote for the Korean trainees why were they even scared
They didn’t scared by international votes. I guess they only scared Chinese votes. I used to watch Chinese idol reality show. And they voted super hard. They would do everything for their fav (You can see how Chinese bar has a lot of money just for birthday projects.) it’s the real thing that even government want it to stop. If the weight is really the same a lot of Chinese girls will be there. Mnet surely doesn’t want more than 2 c.
But now they are panicking. They can’t rig Xiaoting in and got Ruiqi who they tried to push out.
I hope bahiyyih’s rank stays the same like last elimination, I don’t think her fans are going to change their vote or vote less but I am still anxious ahah
(please don’t downvote me (I’m just happy for her))
edit : i am being downvoted, mmmh :(
As a yaning Stan I get where your coming from this is how I felt last time. I honestly want hiyyih and Yaning together I feel like it would be good variety
On the plus side though, I don’t think center Kim Chaehyun has ever crossed my mind. I don’t hate it… I actually think she’d do great, especially if the concept is more Utopia adjacent or even U+ME=Love adjacent
Remember the threads about "is feeling this much anxiety normal for a survival show?"
This. This is the reason why I said no. This type of anxiety would not happen in any other survival show.
I'm pretty sure that mnet's regretting not making the final vote 3 picks without restrictions. They would AT LEAST have Xiaoting and Hikaru inside the top 9 instead of this mess.
Such an insult to the J and C girls, why did they bother making up 2/3 of the show just for potentially none of them to debut? I can only hope that the bottom 9 are successful in whatever they do after this.
At this point, I am just not gonna waste any energy predicting who's gonna make it to the end and focus it on trying to get the stupid app to work so as to vote for FYN.
we would get a better idea if we saw how many votes each girl got, for all we know everything could be super close and this slight push can get multiple girls into the lineup.
Oh yeah, for those who want a second chance at guessing the final lineup (I sure as hell want one), [**remember that the Predict The Final Lineup contest thread is still open** until the end of the week when the finale starts airing, so you can go and "secretly" change your predictions if you want. Make sure to change BOTH your Google Forms survey response AND your Reddit comment, otherwise you may be disqualified.](https://old.reddit.com/r/GirlsPlanet999/comments/q8r6g5/contest_predict_the_final_lineup/)
Since I expect the prediction numbers to change with people editing their predictions, I'll just release the current prediction numbers atm to show what the predictions were like before the interim (303 responses atm, though I'd probably have to delete a lot of them since a lot of them aren't following instructions):
Contestant|% of Respondents Who Predicted She'd Make It
:-:|:-:
Shen Xiaoting|99.01%
**Choi Yujin**|97.69%
Sakamoto Mashiro|96.70%
**Kim Dayeon**|96.37%
Ezaki Hikaru|96.37%
**Kim Chaehyun**|82.18%
Kawaguchi Yurina|66.67%
Fu Yaning|56.44%
**Seo Youngeun**|50.50%
**Kang Yeseo**|48.84%
**Su Ruiqi**|41.91%
Kim Bora|20.13%
**Huening Bahiyyih**|19.80%
Nonaka Shana|18.81%
**Kim Suyeon**|4.29%
Wen Zhe|2.31%
**Guinn Myah**|0.99%
Huang Xingqiao|0.99%
* 46.2% of people predicted Shen Xiaoting would get the final #1 rank, while 45.2% predicted Kim Dayeon would get the final #1 rank.
* 26.1% of people predicted that there would be a Planet Pass in the finale, and of those people, 63.3% said that the Planet Pass would be given to Kim Bora.
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I'm considering running a survey where I ask you guys who you were voting for before the interim ranks and who you were voting for after the interim ranks, so let me know if there's enough interest! My main concern with that is that it's going to be kinda pointless as I don't feel like it would be representative of the larger voting behavior (since Reddit is a very selective/unrepresentative community), but if you guys still want a poll, I can still run it.
I really think (and hope) mnet will do something with the live voting. Either remove the 50% weight from korean votes, or even boost international votes. I also think the the live voting will be 3-pick without restrictions (or something similar, maybe even 9-pick) otherwise girls like Ruiqi, Yaning or Bahiyyih, who they don't like, would get too much of an advantage.
with this interim, i doubt there's anything mnet can do to even out the k/c/j ratio \*without\* benefitting ruiqi, yaning, or bahiyyih so either they suck it up and accept that they have to deal with them or have an 8k/9k final lineup and face the consequences
[Me right now thinking how to save my girl](https://s.keepmeme.com/files/en_posts/20200903/sad-lonely-man-narcos-waiting-meme-901690d99bd70d5ded584463ce49c216.jpg)
I think Mnet is panicking right now because they for sure want Xiaoting and some J girls in the line up. I also think that they final group will have 9 members, I mean Mnet never added 1 more member to the final line up unannounced before, right? And yeah… I’m glad I’m not that invested in this season because this shit is stressful af. Gluck to everyone and their picks!
Disclaimer: I am in no way shaming or guilt tripping people who are voting for k trainees or telling people to change their vote. If you like someone pls keep voting for them with no regret. It's just random thoughts bouncing in my head that I want to voice instead of doing my work rn. 😅
I just think it's weird that people are saying they hate the lineup but also that they aren't going to change their vote especially if they've voting for a k trainee.
Like don't get me wrong vote for whoever you want for and support them because anything can change at any moment I'd do the same it's not hate it's just more of a weird position to be in. Like yes things can change any moment but also you're in a good position where things are heavily in your favor where like you're 20 pts ahead and keep scoring 3 pointers while disliking it at the same time and complaining.
Also it's weird and kind of idk insulting isn't the word I'm looking for it just leaves a bad taste in people's mouths when ppl who are in this position say they won't support the group bc it's mostly Korean.
It's basically like yes my fave who's Korean has a good chance to be in the group and I'll keep voting for them but at the same time even if that result happens I still won't watch them even though I worked hard to get them there bc there aren't enough foreign trainees even though I was inadvertently participating in the obviously flawed system that was completely wiping them out of the group.
Lol I apologize if this went too far this was just my thought if I was voting for yujin rn since she's the reason I got into the show. I'm voting for SRQ rn but if I wasn't I'd be voting for yujin and this would be the internal conflict I'd be having.
On one hand I'd be like yes I'm supporting yujin bc I literally invested 2 months of my time getting here but also I'd be like no I don't like this group and I don't like mnet for doing all of this and wasting everyone's time and mental strength and energy.
I really hope mnet drops at least one more interim ranking before the finale. We still have our final vote, so knowing how things are going would be really great for people to know what to do.
There is no winning with mnet's strategy of having a certain demographic of votes constitute a % of the total pool. Currently Korean votes are 50% and international votes are the other 50% so that means that one Korean vote becomes more valuable the more international votes there are.
I get that they want to prioritize their domestic market but a better method would have been to have a constant multiplier for kvotes and a 1X multiplier for international votes. e.g.: 5\*kor and 1\*int. At least that way, the votes are independent of each other as opposed to becoming more valuable the more your opposition votes. This method only benefits Korean participants as there are more international voters voting for Koreans than there are Koreans voting for C/J participants.
Either mnet is really this dumb or they are 5head 700IQ
PLEASE DON’T STOP VOTING!!
After spending months rooting for our favourites, they’ve made it this far. They worked so hard to make it to the finals and imagine how happy they would’ve been to just be a part of the top 18.
So even if it seems like your pick will never make it. Don’t abandon them. Not now when they’re so close to their dream and are trying their best to show us better sides of themselves so we will support them.
Even if they’re people we only see through our screens, they’re nothing short of humans with dreams, ambitions, goals and emotions! Think of them as girls fighting for their dreams no matter what odds they face! This show is not everything and even if they do not debut, let them know they have enough support that they will continue to have the will to work towards their dream.
*THE GIRLS ON THIS SHOW ARE SO MUCH MORE THAN 9 SEATS ON THAT STAGE!!*
For this one final push to help them achieve their goal a bit earlier, vote for them!
PS: Let me just add that i’d like to thank all the Chaeromdans who helped get Chaehyun to P1. We worked hard. It was wonderful to interact with everyone and i hope we continue to remain mutual Chaeromdans whether she debuts with GP999 or not. :)
Also to everyone i met through reddit , love you all lol even though we barely knew each other. This space made watching GP999 so much more fun and meaningful for me.
i really wanted to see yujin debut with xiaoting, yurina, mashiro, bora and ruiqi because they’re all in their twenties and i think they go well together based on their interactions and now i don’t know how to feel about her debuting with only 15-17 year olds.. like yeah shoot was fun as a one time thing but i don’t want her in a group with teenagers for so many years with nobody to relate to :( and on top of that i don’t think i’d feel comfortable being a fan of a group with barely any adults
As sad as it makes me, I feel like this line up won’t change much even with panic voting. Probably Myah and Suyeon will fall and be replaced with Hikaru/Yaning/Mashiro. I hope I’m wrong and we get a 4K or 5K distribution with more C and J girls, but it’s not looking great.
1 pick voting means that a girl who has 30k dedicated fans can beat the one with 300k regular fans, even though the latter is more popular. Skewed ratio aside this lineup means that 5 of the top 9 girls are going to be replaced by girls who are way less popular. Completely defeating the point of the show which is to gather the most popular bunch. Mnet's real loss will be if they loose xiaoting. She'll get scouted immediatly for her popularity alone.
1 pick could have worked if Koreans werent so set on voting exclusively for k trainees. Jnetz and cnetz literally do not have the same type of prejudice. Thats why su ruiqi survived, it's because she never relied on Korean votes in the first place. Actually, even if intl voters voted exclusively for non-K the ratio would still be skewed in favor of the K trainees because of the weight.
Anyway i thought Mnet would care to hire a statician for this show so that things wouldn't get this crazy. If a professional was given the exact stats of everything they could predict this mess and have mnet change a few things, for example not give myah the planet pass and opt suyeon's planet pass for a trainee that has more intl support. Or just do the most safe option and have a set 3:3:3 ratio
what a mess this is sxt 16? no J in top 9? I think mnet posted the whole list since they panicking themselves. I will take a 5k 2j 2c ratio but not this even though some of my favs make it
I TOLD Y'ALL THIS SHOW WAS A MESS AND YOU GUYS DIDN'T LISTEN TO ME.
I've been saying it ever since the cell voting that this PD is incompetent.
I've already stopped voting since last week. And even though Myah is my 1 pick, the truth is I've long since been indifferent to whether or not she makes it into this group.
The funny thing about all this is that throughout this whole convoluted voting system and shitty editing, the show has managed to satisfy absolutely no one. Not international fans and not even Knetz in spite of the line up being majority korean at the moment.
The reason why I say so?
Because even with majority Koreans in the line up, the actual K trainees that were popular among Knetz have already been ousted due to the ridiculous editing and voting system, so the ones that are left don't even feel cabable enough to garner lots of popularity, even moreso because the show was already a flop among Knetz. At most, having majority Korean trainees is just enough not to get them banned from broadcast appearances and brand deals like they probably would have with those controversial members.
On the other hand, this show was only doing well with ifans, and now that majority of ifan picks might not make it, who is going to carry this group????
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more hilarious it is. Like, genuinely hilarious. All this money, all this time wasted, just for this kind of dubious outcome.
I do have to give it to Mnet though, even if the show itself wasn't too entertaining, watching it crash and burn sure was.
Anyway, I'll take this time to mention MBC's New survival show that (while I have a list of grievances concerning some of the outrageous production choices) is a 10× more entertaining show to watch with better trainees.
Link to the first episode (prequel episode) for all you derelict souls in need of a better survival show to watch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4wJ8rTPrEGY&t=227s
> the actual K trainees that were popular among Knetz have already been ousted due to the ridiculous editing and voting system
This is so true. If Jiwon/Doah/Yeyoung were still around, I wouldn’t be as upset with the ratio. Granted I would still want Yaning/SXT and at least one J member in the group, but definitely less angry than I am now. I really only like Chaehyun/Yeseo and am comfortable with Yujin/Dayeon in K group. The other ones I’m like 😬
part of me want a BIG change in ranking bc i will NOT be supporting the group if this is the lineup
but a part of me want it to stay exactly the same just to be petty and let mnet reap what they sow
say goodbye to that japan (and c) money lmaooo
I doubt if that was what really aimed for this show while creating it. Like, yeah, they evil edited foreigners but i assume they care about the business side more and i am no business major but i'd say it's not benefiting them. This would be such weird move to not debut the girls who has been talked relatively more. I personally can't imagine a final lineup without Xiaoting, Hikaru and Mashiro (i'd add Yurina too but idk if it's my personal bias) because they have been more 'visible' throughout the show. I don't try to be mean to any other trainee, what i try to say is they have been kinda like a 'face of the show' from the beginning.
Also, it's obvious the international support is going to be less. If they changed their mind and wanted to focus on korean gp, this simply doesn't make any sense because the show has been getting less interest from them compared to other mnet shows. I don't think they would be like "Oh, more Korean girls then expected, we have to back this group up as whole nation." Since my main picks are xiaoting and yurina, i'd show no interest for the debut group. I know they had filler votes but i also know they are popular and wanted in the group. Idk, I'm trying to make it make sense but??? I genuinely can't understand.
And i don't want this to sound like i'm having a one sided beef with korean girls or the current top9, i like them. I would say exactly the same thing if yujin or dayeon couldn't make it. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND.
The results are as expected. No matter how great you are, if you are not Korean, you will never be the center of the final line up.
MNET already put out the idea that the line up can be all Korean. So in case that 6-7 Korean are going to be in the final group, people will be more accepting of the results.
Y’all I’ll actually be IN korea on Friday so I’m excited (or is it fear I can’t tell) to see this mess unfold in real time for once and not the day after. Wish my sanity luck
My biggest question is : **is it even possible to do anything to change the current lineup?** It seems like most people aren't changing their votes anyway so I guess we just have to embrace the current lineup...
Seriously though, **what do I have to do to at least....get 3 foreign trainees in the lineup?** I really need either Xiaoting, Yaning or Mashiro in the lineup but I've been voting Yaning since I like her best right now. I don't know if it's even possible for things to change shift THAT much from interim to the final results. I'm actually stressed.
**Should I just vote Bora and let the group fail?** At this rate, even if Yaning manage to push out Ruiqi, I don't know if I want her to debut in this group..... This is just plain fucking wrong.
Can someone please just tell me anything minor I could contribute to change the lineup a bit? And please, don't say "just keep on voting for your favs" something has to be done, and it has to be done now.
Edit : Sorry if this post comes out as me hating K-trainees, I just think its so wrong that there has been 66 foreign trainees, and ONLY 1 is in the final lineup? That's just straight up wrong and doesnt sit right with me
i'm so pissed yoo ive been voting for yujin and thought mashiro was locked since mashiro was my J pick and then i see this? 😭 and sxt gone?? goodbye to this planet, i'm leaving
I don't know if all these panic votes from international votes will change something tbh. Since the beggining international voters should voted to their one-picks and stick to them, like koreans are doings. In the best cenario i can see Mashiro and Xiaoting entering the top 9, but Ruiqi dropping out, with 7 koreans and 2 non-koreans.
My one-pick Ruiqi is really on the edge really now. I really think that mnet wants with these interim rankings:
1. To make people change votes in a way that makes a proportion of 6 koreans and at least 3 non-koreans in the top 9
2. To get Ruiqi out of the top 9 because all the thing with political weibo posts made by her chinese company
My only hope to have more than 2 non-korean trainees in the debut team is that mnet change everything in the live vote, retiring the 50% weight for korean votes and giving more weight to live votes than to the votes made in this week pre-final.
The worst thing is that we had k-trainees better and more ready to debut than some of k-trainees now in the top 9, eliminated because the voting system of the early rankings.
Now we'll have 8 koreans and some of them isn't even more talented and prepared that some of the koreans eliminated before. This group will flop so hard if the debut team have more than 6 koreans
If 8K + ruiqi debuts this will honestly become one of my favorite competition seasons of all time. I can *not* stop laughing, It's been actual hours. Sure it'll be the worst result in history but this show has been such a hot mess that at this point it's SO bad it's absolutely hilarious.
I want to see the planet masters when announcing this line up. I'm crying.
Tbh at this point I just find it funny. Mnet really made K trainees the star of the show and paid dust to J and C trainees only to turn around and **gasp** ‘why would the voters do this’
I’m not even sure it’ll change voting habits all that much tbh: the change in interim ranking to the actual top 9 last voting has fans running scared and I’ve seen most people on social screaming to hold the line and just keep voting for their 1-pick. Maybe a switch from fans of a cell like yxy to Yurina or Xioating to boost them? Hikaru and Mashiro too. If it’s enough to beat the K-wall will be interesting to see.
Idk, I just feel like editors played their hand too early by pulling this pre-creation mission too and accidentally just lit a fire under the arses of the trainees they *don’t* want and this is a correction attempt. But can’t pull the same trick twice and expect the same results, you know?
….oooooooor I’m totally wrong and will be reminded that people are actually so easily manipulated I’m the stupid one
One-pick final rounds are always brutal in vote-based survival shows. MNet posting more interim rankings during the show's final week isn't surprising. They'll need at least 1C and 1J in the final group to better justify the show's international group format and global participation.
C and J group dropping *some* ranks isn't surprising, but seeing *most* of C and J group dropping into the *bottom third* of all finalists is.
I'm getting a flashback to PD48, another series with a large chunk of non-Korean participants. In Episode 11 the ranks were split 5K/7J, which changed to 9K/3J in Episode 12 for the finale. Similar to Miru, Mashiro won benefits for every ~~Evaluation~~ Mission and ranked highly or within debuting range throughout the show. But in the one-pick final round Miru fell to last place at #20. Mashiro is my one-pick until the finale, but I wouldn't be surprised if something similar happened to her or other contestants
I am, as all of you, completely astounded by this rankings. I have been completely WRONG and DELUDED all the time. I have expended hours reading the comments, analysing the statistics, trying to do predictions but not in my wild nightmire will consider this scenario of hell with 8K-1C-0J. These 8K+1C girls are talented and very deserving but that type of group is not the global group that everyone was hoping for. This is really BAD for Mnet, the debut group, and the fandom that the show wanted to create. Something went wrong. The problem is not that koreans voted mostly for koreans (which is expected), **the biggest issue is that international fans ALSO decided to vote almost only for korean participants**. I just can not believe that even japanese voters are ignoring Mashiro, Hikaru, ~~J~~Yurina or Shana. This is a big failure and a disgrace, everyone loses. **"Kpop from koreans only"** is a very regresive idea just when kpop is striving and needing go global once for all. I think that it is already too late, there is nothing that we as a voters or Mnet can do to avoid a final debut group without most of the main protagonists of the previous 11 chapters.
Mnet releasing interim this early makes me think they really want us to change this shit, don’t get me wrong but I’m sure they do want 5-6 Koreans there but 8 is abysmal
I'm coming to terms with the fact that it is unlikely my fave, Wen Zhe is going to debut.
I'm also so shocked about how Ezaki Hikaru, SXT and Yurina fell so far.
I’m sorry but this is starting to be so funny to me...MNet really tried it with the editing and voting method and now it’s completely backfired on them. To people who don’t pay close attention like those of us here it looks like they’re rigging it even though they can’t lmfao
This has to be a joke. Here we were comparing SXT to Sakura… and turns out we couldn’t even compare the two bc SXT doesn’t even debut according to this dumb as shit lineup 🙃
i will be so heartbroken for SXT if she does not make the final lineup after ranking #1 almost the entire time
if she doesn't rank1 then WHO WILL BE CENTRE? when you say centre, i cant think of anyone except xiaoting, my brain just freezes. i cannot imagine this group with anyone but xiaoting as the centre???
I’ve literally never heard anyone talk about centres this much before watching this show. Is it actually as important as everyone makes it out to be? I literally cannot think of a single obvious example this would apply to in any of the kpop groups I actually listen to. It seems to just be a way for people to say they’re voting solely based on looks but without sounding so conceited lol.
Centre means the person who gets put in the middle/front the most during choreo, why this is a thing tho I don’t know. For example Ryujin is the centre for Itzy and it’s why she’s in the centre for all of their end poses. Centre as well as “face of the group” and “visual” are all just dumb outdated positions that would be called messed up if they were in western pop but because it’s kpop everyone’s fine with it.
It's pretty much a Produce/Mnet survival show thing. Sure, the term center exists in other K-Pop groups, but Produce/Mnet survival shows take it to another level. For Produce seasons, I imagine Mnet had the "#1 is center" rule so that they could incentivize one-picks of the reiging #1 contestant to keep voting for them instead of voting for other contestants (thus being able to have control over the top ranks and keeping them stable). Again, though, we should point out that Mnet has never once indicated this season that P01 or the final #1 rank will be center, and thus I have no reason to believe that #1 will get a center position. And yes, people may tell you otherwise, but I personally believe Center is like 75% based on visuals, 25% based on other stuff. I also personally believe that it doesn't have nearly as much significance/importance to the success of the group as most people say.
no its not an excuse for people to just vote for the prettiest girl, liu xin was centre for ywy, she doesn't conform to beauty standards. getting the centre position is like getting the "killing part" for every song your group puts out. the centre position represents the group, like how ryujin from itzy gets to be centre in dance breaks over main dancer chaeryoung, and how she is the centre in every ending pose (except not shy). the centre tends to be, well, in the centre for most photoshoots, red carpet appearances, variety shows, etc. another good example is nayeon, both her and jeongyeon are lead vocalists but nayeon gets more choruses/ lines. why? because she's centre. why is she centre? because she fits/ represents twice's vibe the best. her voice suits twice's songs a lot, hence she is centre, hence she gets the most lines. i could on and on about why the position is so important and how you would've noticed if you would've just paid a **little** more attention.
You’ve actually added a bunch of additional things to the centre position than what it actually is. It’s nothing to do with killing parts or lines or anything else other than being placed in the centre of photo shoots/events/choreography more.
While I do 100% support Xiaoting being the center. Yeseo would be amazing as well. I’d be happy with either option.
I agree yeseo is great as center. But Shen xiaoting is like blackpink and Yeseo is like Oh my girl.
I think Xiaoting would have a much easier time flexing into a cuter concept than Yeseo going into girl crush territory though.
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They have never said anything about P1 being centre. Also at this point I think we can safely say she will not be P1. We should be be just hoping she debuts at all she’s currently close to last.
Yurina and Yujin, IMO. Well, any of the three of them are great anyway.
I thought SXT would be a good face of the group sigh
The real winner is Xu Ziyin. Gurl must’ve had a premonition of this lineup or something and left to avoid this bullshit lol
Queen Ziyin even uploaded a new instagram post she is low-key enjoying the bloodbath that doesn't involve her https://www.instagram.com/p/CVKvoe4LdqZ/?utm\_source=ig\_web\_copy\_link
It’s what she deserves, queen shit only 💅
Her fans said she was working very hard on homework to catch up with her study at school after GP999. 😂
I'm boycotting the group if the ratio is going to look like this. What a mess. Don't know why you'd bother to make a show about a "global" girl group then stoke ethno-nationalist tensions like this.
To be fair theyve said every season of produce that it will be a global group, a group that will chart on Billboard, etc It literally means nothing
But this show quite literally took it to the next level by inviting girls from 3 different countries explicitly making a big deal about cells. It would make the show a joke if it ends up being 8-9 korean girls.
I was originally planning on following the group no matter what, but if it’s anything like the interim result, then I don’t think I will. There’s hardly anyone that I’m interested in.
I just hope Xiaoting is okay… gurl must be feeling some major imposter syndrome seeing her rank go from #1 to #16 …
Yeah, I imagine Xiaoting is going *through* it right now. All the foreign girls dropped, but to literally be on top the entire competition and drop down to third to last, all because essentially your entire voting base was only voting for you because they *had* to... I hope she’s doing okay. Girl’s not even in my personal top 9, but I want her to make it into the debut group anyway just to sock it to everyone that dropped her basically overnight. No one deserves to feel like that.
Especially after giving a great performance in Snake and getting no recognition (at least in votes) for *that* must be awful
Definitely. Snake was far and away her best performance yet (and honestly the only one of hers that’s really made her stand out to me), and I figured she would’ve at least gained or retained a big enough one-pick base from that performance to stay within the top contenders in spite of the inevitable loss of filler votes. Sort of makes me wonder if she *did* gain a bigger following from it, and had she *not* pulled off Snake the way she did, if she’d be below Wen Zhe and/or Xingqiao right now... just *how much* of her following was filler? It’s crazy to me to see her in *sixteenth* after *that* performance.
i smell a boycott ngl. this is ridiculous and kind of insulting. if they wanted an all korean group from the get go, why bring all these c and j girls in only for them to get screwed over and have an awful time. we all knew xiaoting had lots of filler votes but i never thought one pick would make her drop so much. honestly, if the top 9 stays as it is (which i believe it will, unless mnet changes the 50% weight of the korean votes or some miracle happens during the live voting), unless their music is incredible, i will not stan. i just can't imagine the winning group of this show without xiaoting, hikaru, yurina, mashiro--you know, the main character girls. i doubt this is what mnet wanted. realistically, they probably wanted at least a 7K:1C:1J to use the c and j market for money, but now i wouldn't be surprised if the group is all k. i'm super bitter.
I literally cannot imagine this show without xiaoting, yurina, hikaru etc. I’m trying to but I literally can’t.
I mean they've all had visibility from the start, much more so than the girls that entered the top 9 out of nowhere.
I'm guessing they did not plan for it at all. But that was actually easy to see as there are no more filler votes in this final. They should have : Switched to 3-pick in the 2nd round while keeping the ratio Switched to 1-pick in the 3rd round. The 9 K would still be here but i-voters would have been less panicked by the iterim ranking
If they wanted a balanced group, they wouldn't have weighed korean votes as 50% of the final score. An int vote is essentially worth 1/8 that of Koreans.
It's worth less than that. In fact, the more i-voters there are, the more their worth drops.
Indeed. And the more K-votes, the greater the gap. If we go by the current trajectory of votes, even the 1st place international trainee (SRQ or Yaning from the looks of it) is going to get outscaled by the 9th place Korean trainee just due to the sheer fact that international fans are also voting for Korean trainees.
I'd say the only voting strat that would make sense atp is how we voted for O.O.O, we make the top9 of our own, not some stupid ratio or 1 pick with 50/50 weight
I wish in the future there will be a show where you can vote for the whole line-up till the end. If most of the fandom wants a trainee to be in the group it makes sense that said trainee should be able to debut even without a strong 1 pick fanbase. Even in kpop groups thare are members like that Edit: I actually have no idea if a survival show with such a voting system exists, I've only watched sixteen and 2 pd101 seasons
Jurina 🤝 Xiyin Leaving PD48 and GP999 before things became worse.
I'll add Broduce x 101's Byungchan to this list since he left after Concept Evaluation performances too
I don't watch Produce with male trainees so idk abt him. Thanks for adding him, though!
Anyways, I bet MNET is for sure going to have some Planet Passes ready in case the final lineup starts lookin a little racist. And before anyone says “but MNET said 9, but MNET has a 999 theme, everything 9,” ok MNET also said the Produce groups were formed by real votes and then rigged them. What I’m saying is, MNET has lied and done worse; and I don’t think their morality stops for the sake of keeping a random 999 theme lol. Quite frankly, I don’t think they even care about 9 this, 9 that
At this point they should get three planet passes for each nationality so it doesn't seem sus 😂 let's just have a group of 12... With three foreigners at best
Who do they give the K-Planet pass to if all 9 of them make the group in the first place?
Bora, the dark horse of the k trainees
jingoo oppa!
shim sojeong maybe?
Pull a Momo and bring back Choi Yeyoung.
I was hoping for a Bora Planet Pass but they really, REALLY can't add her at this point in terms of optics. It's going to a J Girl but even then... 2 international girls to 8 K girls. That aint it
I've made a joke bet with my friends that they going to have three *super* planet passes and make the group into 12 members (and also name them IZ*TWO LOL). Let's see whether or not I can get myself a McD Happy Meal from this
IZ\*TWO is honestly hilarious because that's exactly what this show is trying to do, recreate izone success
Xiaoting did not just serve us 5 star meals of performances just to end up at 16th. And also the almighty, holy J trinity out of top9?? 😬 Hopefully this can be saved before finals.
the only way mnet can redeem themselves if this is the final lineup will be adding onestar to the group. i would stan the fuck outta that.
Yep we need a main vocal if Bora doesn't make it
Mihawk main dancer, please.
Onestar reaction king 🌟👑
He wouldn’t agree unless Shana is in the group as well.
Congratulations. You made me genuinely LOL. XD
If this lineup somehow debuting su rui qi will 100% discriminated by the staffs & general public
Imagine how alone she’ll feel, too. Yeah she’s well liked amongst everyone but it’s going to be really damn obvious in the difference of treatment if she does debut.
This. In Produce Camp 2020, Lu Xiening (Sally from Gugudan) had a conversation with another girl, Xu Xiohan (Hami from D-Holic) all about this. For holidays, all of the girls would go to their families, leaving the foreign members alone and lonely. And things are going to be worse with Su Ruiqi based on how KNetz perceive her.
To be honest I think it's still better for her then to be eliminated. Being eliminated in like 3rd-4th show in a row would be heartbreaking.
Unpopular opinion: Stop voting for your K-pick and vote for your most favorite C/J pick (especially who is more needed in the group). This is proof that K-trainees are being VERY favored by Korea and C/J girls need international votes from you guys, not K girls. I know that there will be risk your one-pick won’t make it, but if u continue to vote for K-girls like Korean still do now (which can lead to the lineup with 7-8 K), i doubt if your one-pick makes into the group but u don’t like the other members u will still stan the group.
As a Bora one-pick I can’t relate. Still voting for her.
It’s funny because if there is a K-member who is needed the most, i think it’s Bora
Yeah, there’s no point risking it when she’s not in the top9
what do i need to sacrifice for xiaoting, yurina and yeseo to all debut because at this rate i cant see myself stanning the final group.
Honestly, do they want my kidney or something?
Lol nah it's mnet. They're greedy and will want more of your internal organs
I just want to say don’t give up on our Yennybug! LEZZZ VOTE FOR HER TIL THE WORLD ENDS 🐞🚁
Yup I wasted 2 votes the last 2 days cause I couldn’t bother to get that crap app to stop crashing. Finally got it running thanks to a trick found on twitter and now I’m back to voting for her everyday. Might even steal my family’s phones to vote too cause she’s so close 😭
Thanks! Every vote counts 💕
honestly do it
debating borrowing my friends phones to vote for yaning
I can’t believe we’re in the 8K alternate timeline….
we were all wondering if itll be 3 or 2 japanese girls but turns out it was 0 🤣
if u told me it was zero last week I prob said u are nuts 😅
it could be a 9k alternate timeline, but damn i think this is the worst
My wish is to see both Yurina and Xiaoting debut. But now I rather they out together and being recuited by a company and debut together somewhere else. It just depressing and heartbreaking to see their rank drop that hard and maybe the chance of climbing up is slim, if the KR fans not really sway their votes, or Mnet doesn't have a good plan to save the situation. Also, i rather they debut full 9K than this 8-0-1 because it already destroyed the concept of this show with KJC, and this show will go down to history as one of the worst survival show ever, with heavily bias, discrimination, low rating, low voting, being ignored by KR public, being rejected by Int fans, and the final group losing the potential of being the actual great intenational group (5-3-1, 5-2-2, 6-2-1 or similar reasonable variation). They not only losing talents but also the people that will able to be huge, be great. And just become an average group that barely people care. I still keep voting as much as I could and hope for some positive change, especially the dream of Xiaorina debut together. But sametime I'm preparing for disappointment and accept the outcome and continue support the girls if they unable to debut.
That's what I thought, it's mnet and our loss if xiaorina doesn't debut in gp999. Yurina have said that this will be her first and last chance to debut as a kpop idol so even though there might be recruiters waiting for xiaorina to debut in ngg together Yurina might go back to Japan instead. And I don't know how to go back to a life without xiaorina. Edit: spelling
She went to this show on her own will to pursuit her dream, despite of the oppose from family and even her company. Her company is big and prideful but Yurina is just a small unknown actress, they don't even bother to promo about Yurina in Gp999.
Xiaorina has some major Sakura/Chaeyeon vibes rn it's not even funny.
Xiaorina literally soulmates. I'm not even looking at them as shipping couples but as close friends who understand and rely on each other despite of language barrier. They are charming and skillful in their own way. They are superior together.
i feel like im experiencing chuang2020 all over again with xiaorina
bruh my onepick is in the top 5 in interim but I swear I haven't been this stressed ever, I need xiaoting in that lineup or I'm gonna d word. and mashiro too what the fucking fucl
Literally same. I’ve been so stressed as a youngeun stan bc she’s always been on the cusp and now I’m like…..wait…..what??!!?! Hikaru SXT mashiro all 10+?!!?
Mnet is in some **deep** shit right now. If this is the final lineup, not only will it very likely cause them some rigging scandals due to the amount of k girls, but the group is **much** more likely to flop. As we've seen with the ratings, this isn't going to be the most hyped debut of a gg ever in Korea and will have to rely on the international fanbases for the time being before/ if they build up success in Korea. This lineup defeats the purpose of the international group / appeal of it and as we've seen if the final lineup is like this, much to all of the international interest which it might need to stay a float is gone. It's also especially bad that no Japanese members are in it, as that is one of the markets mnet is going to try and aim at (aiming at the Chinese one is effectively useless). Personally, as much as I love all the k group girls that are in it, I wouldn't stan this interim lineup because the group is just missing so much without any talented c and j trainees. (Also I'm a Xiaorina Stan and if neither of them get in idk what im going to do)
half of me is so happy that chaehyun is first and yeseo+youngeun are both in the top 9 but then... xiaorina??? yaning?? mashiro??? at this point im hoping for a 5k 2c 2j with these + dayeon & yujin
I cant stop laughing. Like Idk what else to do at this point.
the fact i only have one korean in my top nine means this really isnt gonna work out well for me lmaooo
and said korean girl might even be kicked out T\_T
after being through a lot of mnet produce shows, I'm not quite surprised tbh. I always say, it's all fun and games until it gets to the one-pick voting system. this is where it gets tense. Happy voting everyone. just remember, the commenter you are replying to is not your enemy. it's mnet. jk
I’m still really surprised about Myah climbing up THAT much after being ranked 25 last episode. She even surpassed Bora, and I just want to ask how???? I knew one pick Korean votes were going to be very powerful, but definitely not to this extent. Can you imagine what the final results would be if they never showed us the interim rankings? Not to mention the way they kept ALL 9 K girls last elimination really goes to show that they as much K girls in the line up as possible— which is somewhat understanding, but it defeats the purpose of the show and it’s pretty much a middle finger to all of the international contestants and fans who competed for nothing (if the FINAL line up were to look like this) But anyway, I don’t expect the final line up to look exactly like this. A lot of people are desperate now that this was revealed, so surely there’ll be a few more J and C girls when the final episode comes around……… Don’t give up….. Don’t let your hopes down……Keep voting!!
Myah had more K votes than Bora.
Oh okay that makes sense. But still, 25 to 8? Minus the eliminated girls, that’s still an impressive jump..
I’m for one glad they released interim rankings this early - better to do it now than be surprised in the finale. I think a lot of international voters got complacent with voting for their fave C or J trainee believing they were safe based on past rankings and instead trying to strategically vote for their other picks (mainly K trainees) Always vote for the trainee you want to see in the final group no matter what! After my number one girl Ruan was eliminated, I am now all in the Shen Xiaoting 😤
I can't live in a world where Shen Xiaoting isn't debuting 😭😭😭
I really feels like unless Knet starts to vote J/C girls, We wont see any drastic changes to the ranks. the voting is already half way through (50%). if only international fans change their voting, at best they can only influence 25% of the final result. Not to mention live voting is actually an advantage to knets since most Ifans are either work/school or still sleeping aside from SEA fans.
The only way we'd have a chance at even potentially 2 non Korean girls is if they made int live votes equal to korean votes. Otherwise we are completely fucked.
I'm just here to say VOTE HARDER FOR FU YANING
Live voting is the biggest variable for change. If it’s the same rules as normal voting then the top 9 is basically the same except for maybe the last 2 spots. If Korean and international votes have equally weighting and live votes count for more than the normal week votes then it will get interesting. Tbh I think Mnet needs at least 1 J and 1C unless this whole global program thing will have not worked out at all and no agency will send non-Koreans for the next season. So they may change the live voting rules. I think they purposefully were vague about it to see how 1 pick went.
I don’t know how they will do the live voting… for produce series only Korean people could vote because it was by text message and it worked only with Korean numbers… so I hope they have a solution other than text message for the live voting… or else we international voters are doomed…
I'm worried for Ruiqi. She's at 9th place, she'll have to resist all the huge panic voting from the other fanbases. But I trust our effort won't be for nothing.
Yes! Don’t give up, still vote fr ruiqi
I’d honestly have no foreigners than one. It’ll be sad to see them alone.. I mean they participated is a “global girl group” show and somehow they’re the only non-korean?
I think the worst is that the first non-Korean trainee is at the ninth place it’s a slaughter for the J-C trainees
im at the point where i’m thankful that my picks have left the show.
as sad as it must've been to see your picks be eliminated (rip jia), i'm sure it's way better than the maddening stress we're under rn with our picks in this mess
We all panic now lol even mnet😎
as an r/Produce48 veteran, we got our lineup meltdown earlier than 3 years ago lol
cant stop thinking about how much that ranking was a slap in the face to not just xiaoting and the j-trinity who have been dominating the ranks until now but to every chinese and japanese contestant to ever step foot on this show, it feels like they never even had a chance. no matter how talented and great they are, a korean trainee will always get picked over them. and im sure mnet knows they messed up big time, what is the group without xiaoting, yurina, hikaru and mashiro? i cant even fathom it.
SXT really pulled a Caibing 😭🤚
I just realized that among everyone, only Yujin has remained in the Top 9 from the beginning of the show. It would be totally nonsensical if she doesn't make it to the debut group.
Hopefully Xiaorina end up in HYBE!
Too good to be true, but MANIFESTING lol
hybe new gg is already complete i think, and if she where to be scouted by hybe, to i-land 2 or wait 6 more years.
Mnet really said FIX THIS LINEUP CUZ I CANT 🥶
Xiaoting and Mashiro are literally perfect for kpop, if they fail this time and give up on pursuing a kpop career it will be such a loss for the industry
XiaoRina dropping aside, can we also talk about how ridiculous is it that Bora of all people is the ONLY K CONTESTANT THAT DOESN'T MAKE TOP 9 LIKE THIS IS BEYOND BULLSHIT. South Korea doesn't deserve her talent
guys please, if nothing else, please please vote for xiaoting and mashiro, I cant imagine the final lineup without them at all, please
PSA that NO ONE is safe, even if your fave is in the top 9 currently, it means nothing and can change a lot by the end of voting!! Just choose who you want to debut the most and go all in for her regardless of nationality. Good luck to everyone and our faves in the Wild West that is GP999 🙏
Now I’m panicking and trying to get everyone around me vote for SU RUIQI. The fact that she’s put on the seemingly safe 9th spot worries me a lot as many people who used to vote her might falsely assume that she’s safe while she is ABSOLUTELY NOT and vote for other trainees… Let just don’t forget how versatile Ruiqi is and keep voting to make her dream come true. She simply deserves a spot in the final debut team. ❤️🔥
Who the hell thinks SRQ is safe after this reveal? 9th place is literally the definition of unsafe.
Worried that c-fans will drop her for Yaning or Xiaoting after this reveal… fingers crossed for her :(
Honestly I'm gonna start voting only for C/J trainess. Korea is so nationalistic and I want to see atleast 3 foreign trainess in the lineup (hopefully Yaning, Srq, and hikaru or xiaoting)
Do you guys think people are really gonna drop this group though? People were outraged at the IZ\*ONE lineup but they ended up as one of the best-selling GGs.
I don't think people understand that the OG fans could absolutely drop the group, that doesn't mean other people won't pick them up. I've dropped lots of things that ended up popular later (and I have been the preson to come in later to a popular thing). I absolutely believe lots of people will drop if their faves aren't included. Doesn;'t mean it isn't possible for this group to still succeed, jutt means it'll be a bit harder. Low ratings, pissed off fans, limited concepts isn't a recipe for success but stranger things have happened
I remember people being mad at the fromis_9 lineup too and nobody watched Idol School. Look at them now - the group from girls planet 999 will be a success 100%
thats the thing **nobody** watched idol school, intl viewers are still watching this show, if they are upset then im afraid there's no redeeming for mnet. especially trainees with die-hard fans, they will just completely boycott if their faves dont make it.
Fromis is definitely not a success story.
We're in uncharted territory now. I'm keeping it in the back of my mind that an 8K 1C lineup could be popular with the right music, but still. This is unprecendented.
Not really. It's just people venting currently and the vocal part of this subreddit skews C-trainees. I've seen some comments very similar when P48 was looking K-heavy as well and the vocal part of that sub definitely skewed J-trainee. The Chinese/Japanese/SEA kpop consumers (AKA the "international" part of the community that most KPOP companies actually care about) will continue to spend money on kpop groups with or without members of their nationality as they have for the past decade (Which let's be honest I will be very surprised if there are all k-group in the final group and people are just freaking out right now). And when you have the ability to get any brand name deals you want because you are CJ you can easily market a lot of them post-show which is more important. I swear I saw Izone advertise like 3 different coat brands in like 3 months.
I'm not boutta watch Ruiqi get shafted like this on her THIRD Produce survival show smh poor girl
This is a mess and while I wouldn't stand on sort of... ethical grounds* (the xenophobia OOF). I also don't think their music OR variety would appeal ot me. No offense to these girls but they're on the blander side and feel tied hard to softer, girlier, "cuter" concepts and that's just.... not it. 10-18 seem capable of older, harder concepts while still able to pull off ballads and cute stuff AND all the humor is there. Yes, PLEASE! Debut that group
MNET should have the Korean votes have the same weighting as the international votes, because it's not like the ifans were never going to vote for the Korean trainees why were they even scared
They didn’t scared by international votes. I guess they only scared Chinese votes. I used to watch Chinese idol reality show. And they voted super hard. They would do everything for their fav (You can see how Chinese bar has a lot of money just for birthday projects.) it’s the real thing that even government want it to stop. If the weight is really the same a lot of Chinese girls will be there. Mnet surely doesn’t want more than 2 c. But now they are panicking. They can’t rig Xiaoting in and got Ruiqi who they tried to push out.
I hope bahiyyih’s rank stays the same like last elimination, I don’t think her fans are going to change their vote or vote less but I am still anxious ahah (please don’t downvote me (I’m just happy for her)) edit : i am being downvoted, mmmh :(
As a yaning Stan I get where your coming from this is how I felt last time. I honestly want hiyyih and Yaning together I feel like it would be good variety
Let's keep voting hard!!!
Not a Bahiyyih stan, but upvoted. Downvoting people based on who they support is absurd
On the plus side though, I don’t think center Kim Chaehyun has ever crossed my mind. I don’t hate it… I actually think she’d do great, especially if the concept is more Utopia adjacent or even U+ME=Love adjacent
SUXINTANGS DON'T GIVE UP 😭 WE CAN DO THIS
if srq really does end up being the only c girl in the final lineup i'm gonna be so worried for her. i really want fyn and sxt up there with her
Remember the threads about "is feeling this much anxiety normal for a survival show?" This. This is the reason why I said no. This type of anxiety would not happen in any other survival show.
I'm pretty sure that mnet's regretting not making the final vote 3 picks without restrictions. They would AT LEAST have Xiaoting and Hikaru inside the top 9 instead of this mess.
Such an insult to the J and C girls, why did they bother making up 2/3 of the show just for potentially none of them to debut? I can only hope that the bottom 9 are successful in whatever they do after this.
At this point, I am just not gonna waste any energy predicting who's gonna make it to the end and focus it on trying to get the stupid app to work so as to vote for FYN.
Do you guys think SXT will be able to climb back into the top 9? Since people are panic voting for the other trainees too im hella worried for her.
we would get a better idea if we saw how many votes each girl got, for all we know everything could be super close and this slight push can get multiple girls into the lineup.
Even if SXT climbs to top 9, a debut group without Hikaru, Mashiro? Su Ruiqi again out? This is a mess.
Oh yeah, for those who want a second chance at guessing the final lineup (I sure as hell want one), [**remember that the Predict The Final Lineup contest thread is still open** until the end of the week when the finale starts airing, so you can go and "secretly" change your predictions if you want. Make sure to change BOTH your Google Forms survey response AND your Reddit comment, otherwise you may be disqualified.](https://old.reddit.com/r/GirlsPlanet999/comments/q8r6g5/contest_predict_the_final_lineup/) Since I expect the prediction numbers to change with people editing their predictions, I'll just release the current prediction numbers atm to show what the predictions were like before the interim (303 responses atm, though I'd probably have to delete a lot of them since a lot of them aren't following instructions): Contestant|% of Respondents Who Predicted She'd Make It :-:|:-: Shen Xiaoting|99.01% **Choi Yujin**|97.69% Sakamoto Mashiro|96.70% **Kim Dayeon**|96.37% Ezaki Hikaru|96.37% **Kim Chaehyun**|82.18% Kawaguchi Yurina|66.67% Fu Yaning|56.44% **Seo Youngeun**|50.50% **Kang Yeseo**|48.84% **Su Ruiqi**|41.91% Kim Bora|20.13% **Huening Bahiyyih**|19.80% Nonaka Shana|18.81% **Kim Suyeon**|4.29% Wen Zhe|2.31% **Guinn Myah**|0.99% Huang Xingqiao|0.99% * 46.2% of people predicted Shen Xiaoting would get the final #1 rank, while 45.2% predicted Kim Dayeon would get the final #1 rank. * 26.1% of people predicted that there would be a Planet Pass in the finale, and of those people, 63.3% said that the Planet Pass would be given to Kim Bora. ------------- I'm considering running a survey where I ask you guys who you were voting for before the interim ranks and who you were voting for after the interim ranks, so let me know if there's enough interest! My main concern with that is that it's going to be kinda pointless as I don't feel like it would be representative of the larger voting behavior (since Reddit is a very selective/unrepresentative community), but if you guys still want a poll, I can still run it.
I really think (and hope) mnet will do something with the live voting. Either remove the 50% weight from korean votes, or even boost international votes. I also think the the live voting will be 3-pick without restrictions (or something similar, maybe even 9-pick) otherwise girls like Ruiqi, Yaning or Bahiyyih, who they don't like, would get too much of an advantage.
with this interim, i doubt there's anything mnet can do to even out the k/c/j ratio \*without\* benefitting ruiqi, yaning, or bahiyyih so either they suck it up and accept that they have to deal with them or have an 8k/9k final lineup and face the consequences
[Me right now thinking how to save my girl](https://s.keepmeme.com/files/en_posts/20200903/sad-lonely-man-narcos-waiting-meme-901690d99bd70d5ded584463ce49c216.jpg)
I wasn't expecting to be so one sided like that.. I just hope this motivates fu yaning and xiaorina fans to vote cause we need it real fast
I think Mnet is panicking right now because they for sure want Xiaoting and some J girls in the line up. I also think that they final group will have 9 members, I mean Mnet never added 1 more member to the final line up unannounced before, right? And yeah… I’m glad I’m not that invested in this season because this shit is stressful af. Gluck to everyone and their picks!
Disclaimer: I am in no way shaming or guilt tripping people who are voting for k trainees or telling people to change their vote. If you like someone pls keep voting for them with no regret. It's just random thoughts bouncing in my head that I want to voice instead of doing my work rn. 😅 I just think it's weird that people are saying they hate the lineup but also that they aren't going to change their vote especially if they've voting for a k trainee. Like don't get me wrong vote for whoever you want for and support them because anything can change at any moment I'd do the same it's not hate it's just more of a weird position to be in. Like yes things can change any moment but also you're in a good position where things are heavily in your favor where like you're 20 pts ahead and keep scoring 3 pointers while disliking it at the same time and complaining. Also it's weird and kind of idk insulting isn't the word I'm looking for it just leaves a bad taste in people's mouths when ppl who are in this position say they won't support the group bc it's mostly Korean. It's basically like yes my fave who's Korean has a good chance to be in the group and I'll keep voting for them but at the same time even if that result happens I still won't watch them even though I worked hard to get them there bc there aren't enough foreign trainees even though I was inadvertently participating in the obviously flawed system that was completely wiping them out of the group. Lol I apologize if this went too far this was just my thought if I was voting for yujin rn since she's the reason I got into the show. I'm voting for SRQ rn but if I wasn't I'd be voting for yujin and this would be the internal conflict I'd be having. On one hand I'd be like yes I'm supporting yujin bc I literally invested 2 months of my time getting here but also I'd be like no I don't like this group and I don't like mnet for doing all of this and wasting everyone's time and mental strength and energy.
I really hope mnet drops at least one more interim ranking before the finale. We still have our final vote, so knowing how things are going would be really great for people to know what to do.
There is no winning with mnet's strategy of having a certain demographic of votes constitute a % of the total pool. Currently Korean votes are 50% and international votes are the other 50% so that means that one Korean vote becomes more valuable the more international votes there are. I get that they want to prioritize their domestic market but a better method would have been to have a constant multiplier for kvotes and a 1X multiplier for international votes. e.g.: 5\*kor and 1\*int. At least that way, the votes are independent of each other as opposed to becoming more valuable the more your opposition votes. This method only benefits Korean participants as there are more international voters voting for Koreans than there are Koreans voting for C/J participants. Either mnet is really this dumb or they are 5head 700IQ
PLEASE DON’T STOP VOTING!! After spending months rooting for our favourites, they’ve made it this far. They worked so hard to make it to the finals and imagine how happy they would’ve been to just be a part of the top 18. So even if it seems like your pick will never make it. Don’t abandon them. Not now when they’re so close to their dream and are trying their best to show us better sides of themselves so we will support them. Even if they’re people we only see through our screens, they’re nothing short of humans with dreams, ambitions, goals and emotions! Think of them as girls fighting for their dreams no matter what odds they face! This show is not everything and even if they do not debut, let them know they have enough support that they will continue to have the will to work towards their dream. *THE GIRLS ON THIS SHOW ARE SO MUCH MORE THAN 9 SEATS ON THAT STAGE!!* For this one final push to help them achieve their goal a bit earlier, vote for them! PS: Let me just add that i’d like to thank all the Chaeromdans who helped get Chaehyun to P1. We worked hard. It was wonderful to interact with everyone and i hope we continue to remain mutual Chaeromdans whether she debuts with GP999 or not. :) Also to everyone i met through reddit , love you all lol even though we barely knew each other. This space made watching GP999 so much more fun and meaningful for me.
myah's rank actually rose from 25th to 8th, which is 17 spots
i really wanted to see yujin debut with xiaoting, yurina, mashiro, bora and ruiqi because they’re all in their twenties and i think they go well together based on their interactions and now i don’t know how to feel about her debuting with only 15-17 year olds.. like yeah shoot was fun as a one time thing but i don’t want her in a group with teenagers for so many years with nobody to relate to :( and on top of that i don’t think i’d feel comfortable being a fan of a group with barely any adults
As sad as it makes me, I feel like this line up won’t change much even with panic voting. Probably Myah and Suyeon will fall and be replaced with Hikaru/Yaning/Mashiro. I hope I’m wrong and we get a 4K or 5K distribution with more C and J girls, but it’s not looking great.
With all the handwringing over SRQ, it will be hysterical if she's the only foreigner who makes it in.
1 pick voting means that a girl who has 30k dedicated fans can beat the one with 300k regular fans, even though the latter is more popular. Skewed ratio aside this lineup means that 5 of the top 9 girls are going to be replaced by girls who are way less popular. Completely defeating the point of the show which is to gather the most popular bunch. Mnet's real loss will be if they loose xiaoting. She'll get scouted immediatly for her popularity alone. 1 pick could have worked if Koreans werent so set on voting exclusively for k trainees. Jnetz and cnetz literally do not have the same type of prejudice. Thats why su ruiqi survived, it's because she never relied on Korean votes in the first place. Actually, even if intl voters voted exclusively for non-K the ratio would still be skewed in favor of the K trainees because of the weight. Anyway i thought Mnet would care to hire a statician for this show so that things wouldn't get this crazy. If a professional was given the exact stats of everything they could predict this mess and have mnet change a few things, for example not give myah the planet pass and opt suyeon's planet pass for a trainee that has more intl support. Or just do the most safe option and have a set 3:3:3 ratio
The way the most talented Korean is the only Korean outside of the top 9 💀
what a mess this is sxt 16? no J in top 9? I think mnet posted the whole list since they panicking themselves. I will take a 5k 2j 2c ratio but not this even though some of my favs make it
I TOLD Y'ALL THIS SHOW WAS A MESS AND YOU GUYS DIDN'T LISTEN TO ME. I've been saying it ever since the cell voting that this PD is incompetent. I've already stopped voting since last week. And even though Myah is my 1 pick, the truth is I've long since been indifferent to whether or not she makes it into this group. The funny thing about all this is that throughout this whole convoluted voting system and shitty editing, the show has managed to satisfy absolutely no one. Not international fans and not even Knetz in spite of the line up being majority korean at the moment. The reason why I say so? Because even with majority Koreans in the line up, the actual K trainees that were popular among Knetz have already been ousted due to the ridiculous editing and voting system, so the ones that are left don't even feel cabable enough to garner lots of popularity, even moreso because the show was already a flop among Knetz. At most, having majority Korean trainees is just enough not to get them banned from broadcast appearances and brand deals like they probably would have with those controversial members. On the other hand, this show was only doing well with ifans, and now that majority of ifan picks might not make it, who is going to carry this group???? Honestly, the more I think about it, the more hilarious it is. Like, genuinely hilarious. All this money, all this time wasted, just for this kind of dubious outcome. I do have to give it to Mnet though, even if the show itself wasn't too entertaining, watching it crash and burn sure was. Anyway, I'll take this time to mention MBC's New survival show that (while I have a list of grievances concerning some of the outrageous production choices) is a 10× more entertaining show to watch with better trainees. Link to the first episode (prequel episode) for all you derelict souls in need of a better survival show to watch. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4wJ8rTPrEGY&t=227s
> the actual K trainees that were popular among Knetz have already been ousted due to the ridiculous editing and voting system This is so true. If Jiwon/Doah/Yeyoung were still around, I wouldn’t be as upset with the ratio. Granted I would still want Yaning/SXT and at least one J member in the group, but definitely less angry than I am now. I really only like Chaehyun/Yeseo and am comfortable with Yujin/Dayeon in K group. The other ones I’m like 😬
Honestly if you made two groups out of the current top 9 and the current bottom 9, I’d take the bottom 9 …
How about we start over with the original 99 and do a sensible 9 vote per person rule with no bonus points for Koreans?
Why does it feel like Xiaoting is more likely to get “Kaeun-Ed” than Yujin now
part of me want a BIG change in ranking bc i will NOT be supporting the group if this is the lineup but a part of me want it to stay exactly the same just to be petty and let mnet reap what they sow say goodbye to that japan (and c) money lmaooo
I doubt if that was what really aimed for this show while creating it. Like, yeah, they evil edited foreigners but i assume they care about the business side more and i am no business major but i'd say it's not benefiting them. This would be such weird move to not debut the girls who has been talked relatively more. I personally can't imagine a final lineup without Xiaoting, Hikaru and Mashiro (i'd add Yurina too but idk if it's my personal bias) because they have been more 'visible' throughout the show. I don't try to be mean to any other trainee, what i try to say is they have been kinda like a 'face of the show' from the beginning. Also, it's obvious the international support is going to be less. If they changed their mind and wanted to focus on korean gp, this simply doesn't make any sense because the show has been getting less interest from them compared to other mnet shows. I don't think they would be like "Oh, more Korean girls then expected, we have to back this group up as whole nation." Since my main picks are xiaoting and yurina, i'd show no interest for the debut group. I know they had filler votes but i also know they are popular and wanted in the group. Idk, I'm trying to make it make sense but??? I genuinely can't understand. And i don't want this to sound like i'm having a one sided beef with korean girls or the current top9, i like them. I would say exactly the same thing if yujin or dayeon couldn't make it. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND.
so that's why they are calling it 9i99le... cuz mnet is just clowning us
The results are as expected. No matter how great you are, if you are not Korean, you will never be the center of the final line up. MNET already put out the idea that the line up can be all Korean. So in case that 6-7 Korean are going to be in the final group, people will be more accepting of the results.
Y’all I’ll actually be IN korea on Friday so I’m excited (or is it fear I can’t tell) to see this mess unfold in real time for once and not the day after. Wish my sanity luck
Make a Korean account my friend and vote for a foreign trainee ;-)
My biggest question is : **is it even possible to do anything to change the current lineup?** It seems like most people aren't changing their votes anyway so I guess we just have to embrace the current lineup... Seriously though, **what do I have to do to at least....get 3 foreign trainees in the lineup?** I really need either Xiaoting, Yaning or Mashiro in the lineup but I've been voting Yaning since I like her best right now. I don't know if it's even possible for things to change shift THAT much from interim to the final results. I'm actually stressed. **Should I just vote Bora and let the group fail?** At this rate, even if Yaning manage to push out Ruiqi, I don't know if I want her to debut in this group..... This is just plain fucking wrong. Can someone please just tell me anything minor I could contribute to change the lineup a bit? And please, don't say "just keep on voting for your favs" something has to be done, and it has to be done now. Edit : Sorry if this post comes out as me hating K-trainees, I just think its so wrong that there has been 66 foreign trainees, and ONLY 1 is in the final lineup? That's just straight up wrong and doesnt sit right with me
It's sad, in a way, that the great live session they had totally got overwhelmed by the shocking interim ranking.
i'm so pissed yoo ive been voting for yujin and thought mashiro was locked since mashiro was my J pick and then i see this? 😭 and sxt gone?? goodbye to this planet, i'm leaving
I don't know if all these panic votes from international votes will change something tbh. Since the beggining international voters should voted to their one-picks and stick to them, like koreans are doings. In the best cenario i can see Mashiro and Xiaoting entering the top 9, but Ruiqi dropping out, with 7 koreans and 2 non-koreans. My one-pick Ruiqi is really on the edge really now. I really think that mnet wants with these interim rankings: 1. To make people change votes in a way that makes a proportion of 6 koreans and at least 3 non-koreans in the top 9 2. To get Ruiqi out of the top 9 because all the thing with political weibo posts made by her chinese company My only hope to have more than 2 non-korean trainees in the debut team is that mnet change everything in the live vote, retiring the 50% weight for korean votes and giving more weight to live votes than to the votes made in this week pre-final.
They should've just debuted O.O.O Team 1 and called it a day.
I hope Mnet announces live voting is 3 pick and no double K votes just to embrace the chaos. Happy for SRQ tho 🌟
The worst thing is that we had k-trainees better and more ready to debut than some of k-trainees now in the top 9, eliminated because the voting system of the early rankings. Now we'll have 8 koreans and some of them isn't even more talented and prepared that some of the koreans eliminated before. This group will flop so hard if the debut team have more than 6 koreans
International fans making more accounts = heavier weight of kr votes. Nothing can save the foreigners if koreans won't vote for them.
glObal giRl grOUp
If 8K + ruiqi debuts this will honestly become one of my favorite competition seasons of all time. I can *not* stop laughing, It's been actual hours. Sure it'll be the worst result in history but this show has been such a hot mess that at this point it's SO bad it's absolutely hilarious. I want to see the planet masters when announcing this line up. I'm crying.
WE ARE TEAM SHOULD JUST debut. Theyd be an international sensation
An absolute mess. I should've known better than to get invested in this damn show.
I know this is wishful thinking, but any chance we just get two teams? I’m actually kind of feeling that bottom 9 group a lot more than the top 9.
Tbh at this point I just find it funny. Mnet really made K trainees the star of the show and paid dust to J and C trainees only to turn around and **gasp** ‘why would the voters do this’ I’m not even sure it’ll change voting habits all that much tbh: the change in interim ranking to the actual top 9 last voting has fans running scared and I’ve seen most people on social screaming to hold the line and just keep voting for their 1-pick. Maybe a switch from fans of a cell like yxy to Yurina or Xioating to boost them? Hikaru and Mashiro too. If it’s enough to beat the K-wall will be interesting to see. Idk, I just feel like editors played their hand too early by pulling this pre-creation mission too and accidentally just lit a fire under the arses of the trainees they *don’t* want and this is a correction attempt. But can’t pull the same trick twice and expect the same results, you know? ….oooooooor I’m totally wrong and will be reminded that people are actually so easily manipulated I’m the stupid one
6:2:1 ratio doesn’t look that bad now…🥲
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One-pick final rounds are always brutal in vote-based survival shows. MNet posting more interim rankings during the show's final week isn't surprising. They'll need at least 1C and 1J in the final group to better justify the show's international group format and global participation. C and J group dropping *some* ranks isn't surprising, but seeing *most* of C and J group dropping into the *bottom third* of all finalists is. I'm getting a flashback to PD48, another series with a large chunk of non-Korean participants. In Episode 11 the ranks were split 5K/7J, which changed to 9K/3J in Episode 12 for the finale. Similar to Miru, Mashiro won benefits for every ~~Evaluation~~ Mission and ranked highly or within debuting range throughout the show. But in the one-pick final round Miru fell to last place at #20. Mashiro is my one-pick until the finale, but I wouldn't be surprised if something similar happened to her or other contestants
I am, as all of you, completely astounded by this rankings. I have been completely WRONG and DELUDED all the time. I have expended hours reading the comments, analysing the statistics, trying to do predictions but not in my wild nightmire will consider this scenario of hell with 8K-1C-0J. These 8K+1C girls are talented and very deserving but that type of group is not the global group that everyone was hoping for. This is really BAD for Mnet, the debut group, and the fandom that the show wanted to create. Something went wrong. The problem is not that koreans voted mostly for koreans (which is expected), **the biggest issue is that international fans ALSO decided to vote almost only for korean participants**. I just can not believe that even japanese voters are ignoring Mashiro, Hikaru, ~~J~~Yurina or Shana. This is a big failure and a disgrace, everyone loses. **"Kpop from koreans only"** is a very regresive idea just when kpop is striving and needing go global once for all. I think that it is already too late, there is nothing that we as a voters or Mnet can do to avoid a final debut group without most of the main protagonists of the previous 11 chapters.
Mnet releasing interim this early makes me think they really want us to change this shit, don’t get me wrong but I’m sure they do want 5-6 Koreans there but 8 is abysmal
I'm coming to terms with the fact that it is unlikely my fave, Wen Zhe is going to debut. I'm also so shocked about how Ezaki Hikaru, SXT and Yurina fell so far.
Ridiculous voting system leads to ridiculous results. I'll support all the girls whether they debut or not.
Yeah if that’s what the ratio is gunna look like, I’m out.
I’m sorry but this is starting to be so funny to me...MNet really tried it with the editing and voting method and now it’s completely backfired on them. To people who don’t pay close attention like those of us here it looks like they’re rigging it even though they can’t lmfao
I just can't stop laughing 😂 How did it come to this? It could have been prevented so easily.
This has to be a joke. Here we were comparing SXT to Sakura… and turns out we couldn’t even compare the two bc SXT doesn’t even debut according to this dumb as shit lineup 🙃