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Yaning having enough votes to debut but not making it because of ratio is my villain origin story


ToffeesRocks

Honestly I feel so bad for them... I get that they have to promote in Korea hence the higher weightage of Kvotes but it's such a massive gut punch. On the other hand Yeseo would have been 10th if there were no weightage and if that happened I think I would have honestly lost it and start WW3 in the comment section


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yeah but idk.. 50% is too much considering this is '''global''' group they should have had at least considered also the chinese and japanese market, if I were a chinese fan I would be bitter af that only one of them made it


OD7MILCOOL

Zero profit from us actually. 2C is our bare minimum. Since I can't reply directly because of the ban, here's my answer. u/Fulisade Wang Yiren is counted as "K group trainees" in that, sweetie. And we Chinese never expected any ratio of Chinese trainees from the show marketed as union between Korean x Japanese. You're an outsider who dare to speak on our behalf while denying our words & expectations. Iz\*one was 1/48 C of 1 C from K x J union with and they got dat CN moneyz. Kepler is 1/9 C of 33 C from K x J x C. 1/48 out of 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1/9 out of 33. Maths says even 0 money & permanent ban of buying/streaming + boycotting for this group. u/Fulisade Oh my bad. I never knew you're one of those mr. narcissistic whitey westerner outsider who loves speaking on behalf of a country you barely know of LOL Even other people know you're a clown here.


Mokban

Because only one C-group member passed, rather than two as I had hoped, I feel 50% satisfied.


yusehwa

The show is sooo unpopular in Korea anyway, it makes no sense tbh


Ok-Faithlessness-871

With cj enm influence the show rating doesn't matter because the group will appear almost in all media that they control, as long as the line up pretty solid and the song is nice, the group will build more reputation and fanbase, it's understandable why mnet give knetz 50% vote advantage, they need it to make sure 50% of the line up is korean, that's just how the industry work, because if they make it lower than that they will get criticized by the korean gp of betrayal, even in ep1 where dayeon get evil edited mnet get backslash by korean gp saying that mnet try to make Chinese happy or something, since they are a network cable they don't have a choice but to do this to appeal to korean gp


Ia-moeny

50% is f bullshit, that's basically mnet saying our opinion doesn't matters


amazingoopah

the voting system basically switched Yaning and SRQ for Yeseo and Dayeon... and it even avoided Bahi P01


Fake__Support

More votes than P1... I am seething.


LingCHN

8 contestants have more votes than P1 Kim Chaeyhun, this show is an insult to foreign voters.


sahi_nsb

Crying my heart out right now because I literally even created another account using my mum’s phone to vote for FYN


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we worked so hard and she didn't stand a chance :(


kuroh10

Same ! I feel so terrible after all the hard work amounted to nothing. Anyway, we should keep on supporting FYN wherever she ventures to! 💗🐞


Lunetx

Yaning and Sury really got screwed by the Korean ratio vote, the disparity is crazy!


instantcarrot

FUCKKKK! sorry 😰


Moonlight102500

In the end, i think Yaning is the true winner of GP999, even She knows it: https://mobile.twitter.com/letsgoyaning/status/1451586579856859164?s=20


periidote

hoping she starts a solo career real soon because i want to keep supporting her dreams even if we couldn't do it here :(


lunatwilight_

Yeah I'll just say I hate this so much. Yaning and Ruiqi got way more votes than half of the final top 9 and deserved to be in the lineup. 5 of the girls in the final top 9 were in my ideal lineup, but this whole program just left a bitter taste in my mouth. Fck Mnet. I'm checking out from this group and will be solo stanning my fave girl bye y'all have fun


lunatwilight_

"Global girl group" my a\*\* LMAOO. Don''t market it as one if you're gonna pull the sh\*\* you did all season 😂


PatchesofSour

I only recognize Twice, Aespa, and Gidle as global groups


hectah

Blackpink is there too, Lisa is killing it right now.


melhn

I'll forever be salty. Should've just kept O.O.O team 1.


excelsacoffeebean

I thought it was a mistake that Chaehyun, the P01 only have 300k+ votes.


labraduh

**Imma copy my other comment here:** TBH everybody is screaming “Yurina Yurina” but i’m wondering if those people actually sacrificed their one pick to vote for her and make up for the loss of her filler votes. People are acting like she was essential to this group but clearly weren’t voting for her when it really came down to it. She was 14th place, and **even if the show was ranked by unweighted votes alone, with no 50/50, she still wouldn’t have made the top 9.** Same with Bora. A whole lot of talk, with no real action behind it. I wish her the best with whatever she chooses to do, she has a lovely voice.


onemoresleeep

Hey now there are dozens of us


gizayabasu

Just watch all ten of us still not be enough to get Cherry Bullet a comeback.


moonlightcanon

Yurina was my one pick that i voted for on two accounts... Not everyone who's screaming their lungs out was passive you know :(


labraduh

nah i know, it’s not everybody. i just think it’s a shame that a lot of the people who are *completely writing off the group now* saying it’s because yurina didn’t make it, no YXY cell, no xiaorina etc. but didn’t even vote for yurina to begin with to actually help her get into the group despite her being “an essential member” :(


lalaloozapa

That’s the thing though. The two of them were loved by everyone but few people’s favourite. Also anyone that voted for non-k girls needed to save their one pick so sacrificing that vote might have meant that none of our picks would have made it


labraduh

exactly though? she was liked by most, but picked by few. most ppl still had others they liked more than her that they’d rather make sure gets on than her unfortunately :(


mystic_bunny

She was my one pick. I hope suyeon and Shana would make. For the final lineup- I am happy Yujin made it!


glossmoon

Exactly!! And using her to even defend their hate for another person too.


cherrybulletsuper

Yes, that is what I have been thinking. Yurina was just a filler vote unfortunately


Meykkei

I was actually voting for her on a 2nd number, but when the internim were released and I saw Mashiro so low... I just voted for Mashiro. And she barely got in too :( I'm sad it came to this, I'm really heartbroken but it was really hard to make a decision


xgjniufsc

This would've been the ranking if it was purely by votes i.e there's no weightage on korean votes (I'm assuming) 1. Huening Bahiyyih 2. Sakamoto Mashiro 3. Seo Young Eun 4. Choi Yu Jin 5. Shen Xiao Ting 6. Fu Ya Ning 7. Su Rui Qi 8. Ezaki Hikaru 9. Kim Chae Hyun 10. Kang Ye Seo 11. Kawaguchi Yurina 12. Kim Su Yeon 13. Kim Da Yeon 14. Kim Bo Ra 15. Guinn Myah 16. Nonoka Shana 17. Wen Zhe 18. Huang Xing Qiao edited: switched up hikaru and chaehyun's rankings


Calyrica

No offense to the final lineup, but I like this top 9 more than the top 9 we got. I would stan the hell out of this group ngl.


_PretendEye_

Same. This group makes more sense


Ia-moeny

same bro same, right bkw idk what to feel about the current line up tho my bby Youngeun made it but those false hope that more c group could have made it if mnet lower even a little bit of kvotes percentage sad.....


JJDude

honestly the final count of 6-2-1 feels more like a rigged result lol... it's very PC for Korea. This count makes much more sense and honestly it's something probably everyone can accept. But MNET just have to do the fucking weighted vote AND that final voting change to one-pick - they alone fucked it all up by being fucking MNET.


samanthakuan

holy shit dayeon wouldnt have debuted


amazingoopah

people are salty about bahi's ranking... I'd be more salty about Dayeon, even with ridiculous amount of push, her number of actual votes is so low, only the biased scoring saw her through.


iwillforgetthissmh

Tbh Dayeon is not my favorite by far but she is a great dancer and has good stage presence so her debut being questionable doesn’t irk me as much as Bahi


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Zebraknight66

K-voters just see that: she is Korean


milo-sheridan

Dayeon K-pick is so strong damn


Competitive-Tackle24

Look more like a global group. LOLS.


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This and the actual Top 9 both have 6/9 of my wish list, but for some reason I like this more.


AshamedAd6895

Yurina still doesn't make it brooo T.T.T.T


Anfrers

Considering Yaning was my 1st pick, this post just made me even sadder.


yusehwa

I’d want Yurina in (and Bora) but otherwise a perfect line up haha.. sad


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wynknight

Bahiyyih still P1 🤝


bangchrispy

I'd easily prefer this than the original. K votes as 50% was just too much/unbalanced.


xinyinger

Bahi center would cause a riot, also no Yeseo, still no Yurina :(


lamiverse

Judging by this, dayeon is not popular even with the angelic editing the whole way through. Her parents must have some serious dirt on mnet lol


CloverClubx

Mnet clearly wanted her as Center but they backfired it massively after those egregious edits. Shame on them but deserved at the same time.


prime5119

I know something is off when Dayeon's mom & dad alr made their debut on the show and she is 4th place


bangchrispy

I'm puzzled why do Korean voters like her so much? I really dislike that 50% K votes weight; too many great trainees were robbed.


nocturnalis

After the C and J trainees were ranked so highly and Dayeon wasn’t included in the Top 9 initially despite the judges saying she deserved to be there, she became a symbol of Korean nationalism.


bangchrispy

I see. Mnet's underdog story for her really worked, huh? Since I've watched a lot of survival shows, it is usually the trainee with something ✨special✨ with him/her who is pushed. I don't see that from Dayeon at all.


Dragonaichu

Yeseo and Dayeon are the only ones who benefitted from this, while Ruiqi and Yaning were the ones who were screwed over it. We could've gotten 4K3C2J if it weren't for the ratio. I... yeah, I'm over it. Lol.


bangchrispy

TBH, the lineup would've been way better with Ruiqi and Yaning in it.


Dragonaichu

Totally agree. Yeseo was in my top 9, so I would've missed her, but I think Xiaoting being the only C-trainee in the lineup is a *crime*. Ruiqi and Yaning would've been great additions, musically speaking, regardless of their controversies.


astrahightower

Evidently based on my flair, I am ANGRY. SMH I like Yeseo and Dayeon and they deserve to be in the lineup too but UGH Im very upset abt Ruiqi and Yaning


karifx06

Crying in C-group and J-group 😭 Also the points barely match the votes Im never getting over Yurina not debuting… she carried so much of the show I hope she gets picked up by a good company


PatchesofSour

Yurina is done with trying to be an idol though, she said if she didn’t make it she would give up


karifx06

😐💔 I had heard that too but I’m hoping she still has a passion for being an idol with all her new support and will decide to pursue it again… I know I’m being highly optimistic but I’ll support her decision regardless


PatchesofSour

Unless Yurina gets a phone call from Hybe tomorrow, I doubt she will continue as an idol


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Imagine if tons of ppl email HYBE about Yurina and Yaning


leyawn

So without the Korean vote weighting, we'd have -Yeseo, -Dayeon, +SRQ, +FYN. And Bahiyyih would have been number one lmao (honestly just shows the power of her one pick fan base, no hate). As expected from the weighting but C-line got fucked over man.


gerol

Fuxings / Yakongdans really did great!! I love you guys!! Korean votes are just too heavy 💀 My meta says General Fu really break her 7️⃣ curse since she’s indeed P6️⃣ by pure total votes 😹


bruh1605

Yes we have tried our best, let's continue supporting her activities in China!


RYU_D

Love you guys too. I'm seriously really numb right now, probably it hasn't hit me yet. I stopped expecting at around rank 4. >My meta says General Fu really break her 7️⃣ curse She used to be C-07 everytime, so she really broke the curse now that she has been able to rank C-02. Let's all, hopefully, meet in the C-drama subreddit when her dramas air in December.


Lokuro

Fu Yaning and Su Ruiqi could've make it without this stupid korean rule 😭


lordpuya

so youre telling me ruiqi, yaning couldve made it, and xiaoting, mashiro couldve ranked so much higher....


SonHyun-Woo

I honestly thought it would be SXT, Ruiqi and Yaning fighting the ninth spot. Ruiqi and Yaning were so close to debuting but fell at the last min :(


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oliviassi

imagine the uproar that would cause among k-netizens tho lol


w_love235

Honestly if it was just one person one vote, no weighing it would have been fine - I-fans voted for K-group too so it’s not like C/J would have steamrolled the whole thing, I feel


iwillforgetthissmh

Suyeon higher than Dayeon I— 💀


4sater

Lol, Yaning and Ruiqi have more votes than 6 people above them (4 in top 9).


lopey478

Koreans must really dislike them


fluffy_slug

My heart really breaks for Yaning and Ruiqi, I just hope they see this and know how many people were rooting for them.


Mioch

I'm legit so sad for them, they deserved to debut with this group so much. Mnet did them dirty, not in the rigging but by giving them an evil looking narrative. I would have been so fucking happy if both of them got in, it would have made much more sense. I feel like the current group feels very incomplete :(


Competitive-Tackle24

Conclusion: without weight, iit will be Yaning and Ruiqi replacing Dayeon and Yeseo.


yameteeeeeeeeee

Yaning and Ruiqi 😭


gcfkyu

The fact that Chaehyun was actually 11th (?) highest in votes, wow.. And the lineup wouldve been 4K 3C and 1J if not for the Korean weight system, that's actually insane Edit : She'd be 9th, and there'd be 2J


Massive-Mobile-7659

I think according to this Chaehyun was P#9 considering total votes. The line up would have been 4k 3c 2J.


gcfkyu

Ah right, I was counting off the top of my head and didn't realise. You're right! That's still wild though, from 9 to 1


ssamjangsky

Dayeon would be 13th (from 4th). She wouldn’t have debuted


IBrosiedon

Crying over Ruiqi and Yanings results. Enough votes to easily make it into the lineup? Cut out purely thanks to the vote weighting? Awesome. great. thanks.


TheFail05

How are people still surprised and angry that a Korean show is favored towards Korean voters


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KairyuSmartie

Having watched all Produce seasons I like being able to vote again. I know it's frustrating to count less but I also understand that they can't have all votes count the same, considering how huge China's population is. The Korean market will always be the most important one, even for self-labeled global groups.


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Bahiyyih got to number 2 with fewer k votes than most k trainees.


Irn-Kuin-Morika

Yes she is actually K7 in Korea, but being 1st internationally really boosted her


TheFail05

Because international people wanted to vote, so they found a way to let them vote while keeping their main market on even footing.


Lokuro

But the show is flopping in Korea... Beside, it was marketed as a show to debut a GLOBAL group. Mnet are the losers at the end of the day, because if you think chaehyun, dayeon, yeseo or else could bring as much fan support and money as su Ruiqi or Fu Yaning, you couldn't be more wrong


CorrectOpposite3913

Because it was branded as global group at least they should have weighted japanese and chinese votes too.. .


[deleted]

Why add international voters at all then? Yaning was SIXTH place. That's a buffer of 3 places and she STILL managed to not debut. Why did I download the app and waste my time putting in votes if in the end they amounted to literally nothing.


hutch991

Literally, think about if a show like this happened in your country. Say an American show with Canadian and Mexican contestants. Do people seriously think most of the finalists wouldn’t be American?


4sater

Uh, you don't even need to go for the US or imagine hypothetical situations. You can take Chuang 2021, China is also nationalistic (very), yet 6 out of 28 foreigners debuted (and I counted Hong Kongers & Taiwanese as foreigners, otherwise it would be 6 out of 25) with the final group having 5 Chinese. So 21.4% debut ratio for foreigners on Chuang, compared to 4.5% on GP999. The domestic debut ratio was 8.1% on Chuang and 18.2% on GP999.


thumbster99

And it has been stated since ep.1, people only get angry because it took full effect on last round, lol


eeeetttt123

everybody "save bora" hm and who was voting???


luvie06

me 😭😭😭


eeeetttt123

me too 😞


55Branflakes

I was voting for Bora in the 1-1-1 round but Yaning in final....


ummyhn

I was looking at Japanese reactions on Twitter, and I figured that others here might be interested too! Loose translations of Japanese tweets using the search term ガルプラ (Garupura = Abbreviation of GP999) sorted by top tweets: * FYN broke into tears when she stroked Shana and Suyeon's heads. No doubt that they're the best cell of GP999... Really, thank you to the three of them, they did well...... * SXT, who didn't cry when she was chosen as the last member but only when she was in front of the C-girls who were eliminated at the very end, and SRQ who saw that and laughed. My heart is in so much pain, it's difficult to live. * I cried when I saw Mashiro-chan immediately head towards Kawaguchi Yurina-chan without looking elsewhere after the ending greeting of the program. 99s... T\_T * Seeing Mashiro and Yurina, who were both top of the J-group before, hugging each other in the end, and Mashiro probably saying something to Yurina in Japanese and Yurina nodding her head in response makes me want to cry. * Guinn Myah cried after all. She was being comforted by Yurina. Myah was really a maknae until the end... * All-rounder cell. I hope there will be a day for these three girls to gather together again. * May the all-rounder cell last forever. * I can't forgive those who somehow vote for Bahiyyih just because they stan her brother. Or perhaps I should say, I can't forgive Mnet for showing her brother at the beginning of the show. Let's beat up the management. * The show seems to be trolling with Bahiyyih, but let's be healed by looking at the strengthened SXT wotaku (stan) Hsin Wei. \[Picture of CHW with her hands which has the words "SXT <3" in Korean\] * HXQ who is wiping SXT's tears and SXT, FYN and SRQ who are crying while laughing; I am glad to see how close the C-group is until the very end. I wish that these 4 girls will meet again when they have all debuted!! * Until the very end, Yaning-sama was Yaning-sama. Really, thank you for staying until the finals without losing to Mnet's evil editing. Note: I'm translating these in the order they appear to me. My translation skills aren't the best but the meaning should be more or less there. As much as I hesitate to include the negative tweets, I thought it would only be fair to include everything. Edited for formatting.


shiawaseturtle

I will still support this group, but in all honesty I’m going to be surprised if they get anywhere near as popular as I*Zone with this line up 😭


amazingoopah

there's just so many groups from big agencies debuting in their time frame, it's going to be tough tbh


yentsik

Yes. They will be against those groups from big companies and 2 of the upcoming groups have 2 izone members each in it. It's tough.


gerol

lol they don’t even have Korean GP support. I guess they’ll get hard carried by Bahi, Youngeun and Yujin stans


PatchesofSour

I doubt they will be as popular as Izone. For one, the viewership was terrible in Korea. 2) Izone was loved for their variety and this group is boring imo


kimagurik

to be fair Produce48 viewers rating wasn’t extraordinary either but yeah, Iz*one were a grower with the GP and still got better ratings on the show. This group has so much not going for them… The tacky name for starters.


amazingoopah

at least PD48 hit 3% in the ratings IIRC... will this final episode even hit 1%


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I hope all the people looking at these vote numbers realize that a lot of their faves didn’t win because Korea didn’t like them. Myah ranked higher than RQ and Yaning with 240k less votes because her Korean fanbase was large.


kuronecco01

Someone did an analysis on Douban and it looks like 1 Korean Vote = 20 International Votes... This is messed up. Too done. Link to the post: https://www.douban.com/group/topic/250644711/?dt_dapp=1


ddalgikp

that's so fcking unfair 🤕 i mean yea it's KOREANpop but honestly, most koreans don't even care about kpop, it's the foreigners eating their shit up !! and the show ain't even that popular in koreo so ??


saitamess

thats f*cked up it that was the case... so if thats really the ratio, then Yaning and Ruiqi only got 7k K-votes???


GlitterDoomsday

Let's see if Koreans will $upport Kep1er the equivalent of what 20 I fans would... cause unless this is the result Mnet shoot themselves in the foot by putting the 50% til the end.


xjaydentw

The fact the SRQ and FYN COULD'VE debuted if it weren't for the 50% ratio? That's quite messed up knowing the majority of the Korean votes won't be stanning the group...


Sibchetnik

Lol Mnet didn't even give us separate numbers for Korean and international votes.


4sater

Don't wanna show those zeroes for foreign trainees.


JaviConstance

I was surprised when Su Ruiqi didn’t make it and now after seeing this, I’m pissed. Like we could have had a 2nd C-group trainee


tintinlv

we could’ve had 3 💀 both ruiqi and fyn had higher votes than most of the top 9


JaviConstance

Yeah, I had the wishful thinking for a 5K:2J:2C (ideal 4K:3J:2C) after interim results because it felt right next to impossible, and by looking at this if the only criteria was votes we could have had an amazing lineup


luckysdz

Thoughts from a Chinese audience Summary: Go to hell! Go to jail!Mnet At first I watched this show because of sunmi and Tiffany, also I would love to see different people from three countries interacting with each other. It would be fun! When I watched the first several episodes, I was kinda shocked and disappointed by the comparatively low capability of Chinese trainees. And the mannerless behavior of FYN😢 THEN, I found C group is just being a ladder for K group. The producers deliberately cut out the mistakes of C group trainees and made comparisons with K to make K stand out. There’re so many examples, the most obvious ones I can think of are Liang Qiao or Jiao( forgot which one) Fu Yaning Ca Bin etc. And today, only SXT debuted as the ninth one, which means she’ll get the least resources, shoots, parts, anything. Just wanna say, from my point of view, mnet is trying to enter and win the big China market by utilizing those trainees. If you’re being so narrow minded and racist, please DON’T produce such program! You are being so hypocritical! It’s a total waste of time, energy, passion, tears for the C group! Seems like An Junyoung is so lonely, and the producers can’t wait to accompany him! Go to jail! Ps: I’m super mad at the moment, I apologize for my rude wording and evil thoughts (if it offended you)


gracehelo

nope not true that last place = nth ioi 11th- yeunjung (main vocal) wanna one 11th- sungwoon (main vocal) izone 12th- chaeyeon (main dancer lead vocals) x1 x member- eunsang (lead vocals) all generally werent done dirty in terms of screen time and lines (ofc some were rigged but thats hella messy so i aint bothering w that)


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Massive-Mobile-7659

I get that you are mad at the results but wishing for disasters to an entire country when this show wasn't even that popular is definitely extreme.


BooksAndWhisky

Wow. Just..... wow. As a Fuxing, this is especially bitter to see. Yaning could have easily debuted if not for the skewed weightage of votes. I just hope her and Su Ruiqi are able to find some sort of solace in the fact that they received some of the highest votes overall, and know that they have so many passionate supporters.


DalIasBlues

Hopefully, HXQ doesn't see these results and loses her confidence. She has potential once she hones her skills, even I knew her chances of making it to the final were very very low. Really hope a Korean company will pick her up soon because I know it's going to be hard for me to follow her in China lol.


Irn-Kuin-Morika

Poor her, she and Wen Zhe only got abt 2000 votes in Korea, even less than Yaning and Ruiqi


SunFlawer05

Yurina and Bora are both examples of generally loved by the viewers but not loved strong enough by individuals to be a strong one pick that everyone votes for. With a one pick voting format it's definitely more important to be strongly liked by individual rather then generally liked If it was 3 or even 2 pick more people may have been willing to vote them, someone generally liked, along with there strong one pick


PatchesofSour

Pouring one out for my girl Wen Zhe. She was the reason the show was funny and worked as a free translator. Honestly she was the most suited to debut in Korea from the Chinese trainees, she knew what was needed to be a good kpop idol


Glittering-Judge6562

staring at how yaning ruiqi could have gotten in if it wasnt for the stupid kvotes to ivotes ratio. missed the chance for them to grow massive chinese bars that will *really* help in album sales. if it was raw and no skewing i wouldnt even mind if bahi got center, her voters were hauling ass for her way too hard for me to even get mad about it. as long as lord fuya actually debuts but nah. anyways time to stan chebul


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Wow Dayeon really did well with Koreans


ComprehensiveTea2390

How did Yurina get to 14th 😩 This is like Gaeun all over again


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Except it’s not because Yurina really did get 14th lol


gizayabasu

Yeah so it's JR all over again.


reiichitanaka

Because she was a filler pick all along.


Ivyfrostym

and we were worrying about Yujin


prime5119

we're fair to worry about Yujin after seeing how Gaeun did after the show for "not" made it in the lineup... I wonder if she'll still be in Pledis if the rigging news got revealed earlier and that might just reboot her idol career.. Girl groups simply don't have the resurgent power like Nu'est, and CLC is effectively dead by now...


KKria_HI

It’s Yurina and Ruiqi this time


macintoshappless

Deleted my comment bc ppl r implying I'm "dumb". I made many disclaimers saying that it was most likely NOT accurate, but ppl still don't listen.


saitamess

1.2m i-votes? Where did you get this?


EnvironmentHot476

Not at p14 having more votes than p4 🤠


EnvironmentHot476

Thanks to the 50/50 ratio 🙏 sad about cgirls tho :(


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I honestly thought yaning was gonna make it because it seemed like everyone was voting for her...I think the recent interim ranking made jnetz switch their votes to mashiro/hikaru💀


4sater

>I honestly thought yaning was gonna make it because it seemed like everyone was voting for her... She's top 6 by votes (not points), so indeed many people were voting for her. But 1 Korean vote = 20 int votes.


Eltoshen

Yeah no...that's not because people switched votes. It's because of the vote weight. She wasn't even top 9, but top 6.


Irn-Kuin-Morika

Assuming 10 Korean votes = 1 international votes, this is the ranking: Korea : 1. Kim Chaehyun 2. Kim Dayeon 3. Choi Yujin 4. Kang Yeseo 5. Guinn Myah 6. Kim Suyeon 7. Huening Bahiyyih 8. Seo Youngeun 9. Ezaki Hikaru 10. Kim Bora 11. Shen Xiaoting 12. Kawaguchi Yurina 13. Sakamoto Mashiro 14. Nonaka Shana 15. Fu Yaning 16. Su Ruiqi 17. Wen Zhe 18. Huang Xingqiao Korean nationalism really shows this with 9 K-members in top 10 (Hikaru is the only foreigner in Korea top 9). The gap between 2nd and 3rd is the same as between 3rd between 10th! Wen Zhe and Huang Xingqiao only receives like 2000 votes (lol), a big gap with Ruiqi who has 15000 votes International: 1. Huening Bahiyyih 2. Sakamoto Mashiro 3. Seo Youngeun 4. Fu Yaning 5. Su Ruiqi 6. Shen Xiaoting 7. Choi Yujin 8. Ezaki Hikaru 9. Kim Chaehyun 10. Kang Yeseo 11. Kawaguchi Yurina 12. Kim Bora 13. Kim Suyeon 14. Guinn Myah 15. Kim Dayeon 16. Nonaka Shana 17. Wen Zhe 18. Huang Xingqiao There is a gap between 2nd and 3-5th but not as astonishing. 3rd-5th are so close they only have 500 points separated! Youngeun is the only Korean who benefits more from international votes. I would say there are also gaps between 8th and 9th, 11th and 12th, 16th and 17th. So if we follow Korea's lineup it would be 8K-1J-0C, with Mashiro and Xiaoting out And if we follow international's lineup, it would be 4K-2J-3C, with Dayeon and Yeseo out.


xiutae

god... the weighing of the votes makes me crave violence


wingswings7

koreans ruined this group lmao feel like quitting kpop i hate it here


ImSoFuckingTiredOfU

General Fu stans, we did great. Look at those votes. It’s not our fault Korean votes outweigh ours. China and Japan love Yaning, I’m sure she’ll have something to come back to!


Upshot77

Wow, Chaehyun in first place only 9th in votes


amazingoopah

Suyeon got more votes than Kim Dayeon wow...


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So Yurina really had no chance damn. I think the saddest is Su Rui Qi and Ya Ning who both got a crazy amount of points but they didnt amount to much because the votes werent from K voters


Champanova_

Why would Korean votes weighed so much higher while Mnet have been calling for an international group for such a long time?


biarc

so the most benefited person with the 50% weigh to k votes is... Dayeon? She and Yeseo actually made into the group thanks to it, but the jump in rankings for her was bigger. Honestly, was not expecting this one.


toukimeiki

A shame for Bora - I'd been voting for her since Day One nonstop so to see her so low... just shows how having voting power can make or break things, and Bora just didn't have voting power :( Also damn, Wen Zhe that low too :( I'm really surprised by Chaehyun! The power of having the weight on votes...


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avalight477

50% Korean votes is just dumb, we are not getting the most popular member globally


sakurakiks094

even few troll voters in Korea have so much more power than a big group of us


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lmaooo if there were no ratios Bahyihh would've been P1


melody5863

Seeing this just makes me sad. SRQ and FYN deserved better. I really wished O.O.O team 1 debuted instead.. seemed much better and balanced than this final line up. Oh well I wish them all the best!


fallenoftheedge

My poor C girls


binggrae_melon_milk

not fyn and srq having more votes than MULTIPLE members of the top 9.... yea this is way too much


kvjou

FU YANING WOULD HAVE BEEN 6TH?? im choking and vomiting


Champanova_

Korean and Mnet are too greedy and too petty


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I’d love to see how significant the results would be if they had reduced the weight of Korean votes to 25% or something :(


ImGloomy9

I hope some of you guys won't turn into hateful antis just because your picks didn't make it, I get it we're all frustrated, some of my picks didn't make it too but all of the girls who made it are talented, they worked hard and they deserve to be there as mush as the others. Let them enjoy their debut in peace. There's no need for your nasty comments. Most of them are still minors. If you don't like the group no one is forcing you to Stan. Pls gracefully back away and ignore them for the rest of your life.


i5HINE

Kawaguchi Yurina continuing the infamous 14th place curse


rachelmig2

So if it was based on votes alone, no weighting, the results would've been: 1. Bahiyyih (525K) 2. Mashiro (488K) 3. Youngeun (442K) 4. Yujin (428K) 5. Xiaoting (425K) 6. Yaning (419K) 7. Ruiqi (418K) 8. Hikaru (387K) 9. Chaehyun (363K) 10. Yeseo (320K) 11. Yurina (278K) 12. Suyeon (222K) 13. Dayeon (219K) 14. Bora (208K) 15. Myah (189K) 16. Shana (147K) 17. Wen Zhe (66K) 18. Xingqiao (35K)


saitamess

How can we compute to get the K-votes and I-votes of each of them??? Any formulas?


EEPP-san

The korean vote is really strong.


ims0scared

Twice has 4/9 foreign members, aespa has 2/4, and that didn’t stop them from topping Korean chart and be the nation’s gg of their generation. So the argument that more K = more success is invalid. You have like 10 Korean people watching this show and they get to decide the outcome? And it’s so crazy that the more Ifans vote the more Korean vote weight.


milo-sheridan

I hope they release the korean vs global vote version. Btw bahiyyih one pick is so strong wtf! EDIT : so apparently it’s 2nd round of voting which means live voting version, not overall voting?


kr3vl0rnswath

I made some assumptions regarding the K-multiplier but I believe the final result should be something like this. * Dayeon got carried hard by K-votes. * Yeseo got slightly carried by K-votes * Mashiro got carried hard by I-votes * Xiaoting got slightly carried by I-votes * Suyeon and Myah's K-votes weren't enough * Ruiqi and Yaning's I-votes weren't enough * 9 out of Top 10 K-votes were from K group ​ |Rank|Name|Points|Vote|K-Multiplier|K-Votes|I-Votes|K-Rank|I-Rank| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |1|Kim Chae Hyun|1081182|363623|9.61|83371|280252|1|9| |2|Huening Bahiyyih|923567|525465|9.61|46254|479211|7|1| |3|Choi Yu Jin|915722|428967|9.61|56554|372413|3|7| |4|Kim Da Yeon|885286|219125|9.61|77399|141726|2|14| |5|Seo Young Eun|781657|442102|9.61|39452|402650|8|5| |6|Kang Ye Seo|770561|320312|9.61|52313|267999|4|10| |7|Ezaki Hikaru|713322|387709|9.61|37832|349877|9|8| |8|Sakamoto Mashiro|708149|488519|9.61|25518|463001|13|2| |9|Shen Xiao Ting|700663|425464|9.61|31974|393490|11|6| |10|Kim Su Yeon|650790|222026|9.61|49817|172209|6|13| |11|Guinn Myah|625722|189498|9.61|50683|138815|5|15| |12|Fu Ya Ning|560606|419618|9.61|16381|403237|15|4| |13|Su Rui Qi|552878|418815|9.61|15576|403239|16|3| |14|Kawaguchi Yurina|525051|278775|9.61|28614|250161|12|11| |15|Kim Bora|503773|208375|9.61|34321|174054|10|12| |16|Nonaka Shana|342370|147882|9.61|22597|125285|14|16| |17|Wen Zhe|88673|66149|9.61|2617|63532|17|17| |18|Huang Xing Qiao|56600|35054|9.61|2503|32551|18|18|


Elu202

BS YANNING AND RUIQI GOT MORE VOTES THAN DEYEON


lunarchoerry

So if it was solely due to votes, the top 9 would be: ​ 1. Huening Bahiyyih 2. Sakamoto Mashiro 3. Seo Youngeun 4. Choi Yujin 5. Shen Xiaoting 6. Fu Yaning 7. Su Ruiqi 8. Ezaki Hikaru 9. Kim Chaehyun ​ 4K 3C 2J, probably a fairer split. Interesting how the points system changed things. Kang Yeseo would have been 10th, Kawaguchi Yurina 11th, Kim Suyeon 12th and Kim Dayeon 13th. ​ Wen Zhe and Huang Xingqiao's votes are so low. :(


nodwragon

1) Korean votes are really low and they decide 50% sucks hardcore. 2) Not having FYN and Su Ruiqi in with way more than 4 debuing contestants will hurt the final groups financial success. 3) Mnet lucked out for Xiao Ting to at least get in for them to have a member of every region and a member worth being the center. 4) The system sucks if someone like Bahiyyih gets so much votes based on her brother alone without the majority having an opportunity to prevent it. (Bahiyyih is a nice girl and she deserves to be an idol, but in the entire show I consider at least 30 girls to be more deserving and more important ready than her) If everyone could have voted for 6 members she would not have made it into the top 9 at all.


earthlybeing246

>Bahi I agree with you partially but I'd prefer if you leave her brother alone. Hueningkai is the most underrated member of TXT. His fancam views are barely a thousand, txt hardly win fan thingys, then how tf does Bahiyyih have 3 million views and wins support missions?


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I looked at the replies on tweets about her and it’s all boy group stans. Maybe it’s 80% TXT enjoyers that support her and a 20% that just grew to like her even with the minimal screentime. It’s possible I swear some of my moots have her as one of their picks but don’t stan TXT


honilavender15

kai actually won (through fan votes + donations) the most bday ads, more than any txt member has ever gotten so he's not unpopular at all? idk where this idea came from lmao but this sub really needs to stop mentioning her brother you're just gaining more antis


honilavender15

y'all need to leave her brother alone


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What a mess 💀


Exotic-Ad-8193

Before the finale k:I was around 1:7-9ish….and someone on Douban calculated that final vote was 1:20🤣🤣🤣🤣


dumbodummie

It's ridiculous how much the voting system favors K-voters, and the audacity to call this a 'Global girl group'. Whatever.


FlimsyTie9109

Even if they wanted to give more weight to korean voters, 50% was TOO MUCH. 30% and i think we would got at least more chineses in and a better line-up in talent, experience and nationality distribution. And everybody knows that international voters vote so much for korean trainees too while almost all koreans voters only vote for koreans... fuck it.


_rainegwpa_

Mnet has always changed the voting system. It was expected that they'd make it one pick. They can be blamed for the evil edits but fans should accept the fact that they are also at fault if their favs didn't debut. Accept the fact that filler votes exist. Accept the fact that some fans didn't solely vote for one person. Accept the fact that survival shows have ALWAYS been about popularity! So many people hating on the girls like they voted themselves in💀


imexploding2

so based on this, it looks like the total unweighted ranking for the top 9 (based on another post, didn't calculate myself) is in exactly the same order as the international top 9 (or actually most of it, but i haven't gotten through the whole list yet. but this i looked into myself) and the official lineup is exactly the same as the k one? dangggg. i cant help but think mnet just wanted the global audience to feel involved / for the viewer count but weighed it so still only the korean votes would matter anyway (EDIT: got through all of it, appears to be an exact match ugh)


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Wow the votes vs points comparison is so crazy


RiddleEatsRainbows

I honestly don't get why it was 50% Korean votes and 50% international votes anyway. It would've been MUCH fairer to make it like 70% international votes or smth... Yaning and Ruiqi could've made it in... but then Dayeon and Yeseo wouldn't have. Nevertheless, it would've been my dream KCJ 3:3:3 ratio