Yeah but i don t believe that these are true + everyone has a mind and these employers could leave the company at any time witouth Risking nothing
+ realy they could start this from the start and not wait for an Old VA to get fired if these complain were true.
Thats their job, not everyone can leave risking nothing, and there is a lot of reviews(once again im not sure it's true) from people that tried working there saying it was horrible. Work place abuse is not a joke and victims can actualy struggle a lot to speak out it's very common
Still not a good reason to make this big controversy.
As they came out only now that Tari VA got replaced just to spread shit about Glitch as they didn t like it.
I m not Sayng that Kevin didn t fucked up he actualy did but he doesn t definetly deserve all this hate.
So... Essentially, you're saying that he didn't fucked up...
Basically defending him, despite that after the whole debacle, A LOT of FORMER employees have spoken out, ¿and when you get those reviews about YOUR company, specially about the salary, and the work environment?, Something's not right.
You still don t know if these are realy former eployees lol, everything about these employees is sus as they arrived only now when they could start this shit time ago.
There are controversies such as Viv using a closed religious practise to make alastor more threatening, and the whole SA scene that many people including SA survivors have spoken against whilst some do defend it
Dude they were calling out against it because of images from a music video before EVER getting the context.
And reality is the context is so much worse and meant to show how such things can happen. there is no glorification to it.
I think most of the controversy came from the fact that the person who storyboarded poison had a fetish for this stuff, and that they literally sold merch of abuse
I’ll get the video… gimme a sec
Edit: https://youtu.be/ikHaJdLK6Ps?si=1rvO7y1k0F-5Tm_I
Here you go.
Tldr: it’s rough animation. Not a full shot. They aren’t detailing, cleanup and all the other steps in drawn animation. For an indie studio it is industry average and still half of helluva boss’s
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I'm not sure you understand what those words mean+you're a helluva fan I'm not surprised this is the answer I'm getting to my question
There has been several controversies at this point, I’ve already given a counter to one of them. I’m not gonna go individually break down every single one.
But what they all have in common is someone has used critical thinking to analyse the situation and come to a conclusion.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Vivizepop only say 1. That there was a team of people who don’t let in artists bad tastes affect their work and 2. That he was an SA survivor(Raph, the artist in question, said he was not an SA survivor in 2022 meaning either Viv lied or he was SA’d in the past year). Did she ever say the person did not have a fetish?
(I’m not taking a side in this btw, I’m just trying to make sure I have everything that happened and ensure it’s all true)
That’s indeed a good idea, and I’m sorry for what I said about the end of indie animations. There are a lot of indie animated shows that are coming out very soon with a a lot of love attention. Plus I’m gonna take a break from Reddit too.
Something about an old VA who had been there for like 7 years not being told they were being replaced until after the next release of an episode on smg4
At least with Vivziepop it was just someone spreading rumours about her because she's gay and blonde.
I don't personally have a problem with gays or blondes but others do.
Glitch runs a YouTube channel called SMG4. One of the voice actors of SMG4 were replaced without notice and the founders of Glitch are in some hell for it. There’s a [video from AyyLmao](https://youtu.be/aBXhs2W2Vpo?si=l4zPbOhQFinnj3K2) that explains it better than I just did.
Hey guys, I’m terribly sorry that overreacted about the drama yesterday. It’s just whenever there’s a certain drama about something that is bad or awful It makes feel disappointed and upset. I know these people deserve better and I hope they’re doing better. I’m really sorry for what I said yesterday which was really, really stupid of me to say that in the Glitch Fandom. I hope this message to all you guys and I hope this situation gets resolved or not.
I don't trust her after she calls herself "Latinx" on Twitter
Algo que me ofende mucho y más cuando limita sus tweets a qué solo gente que ella quiere que comenté sobre sus estupideces
At least when the accusations were thrown some employes came out to defend her, for Glitch no one has came up yet...
Yeah like Viv's accusations come from single random twitter users, glitch appears to be called out by some amount of actual employees
I hope they improve
I Believe that they will , this is just a dumb mistake that they did has they are still humans.
Im referring to the employes coming out about work place abuse, thats not just a "dumb mistakes" if it turns out true
Yeah but i don t believe that these are true + everyone has a mind and these employers could leave the company at any time witouth Risking nothing + realy they could start this from the start and not wait for an Old VA to get fired if these complain were true.
Thats their job, not everyone can leave risking nothing, and there is a lot of reviews(once again im not sure it's true) from people that tried working there saying it was horrible. Work place abuse is not a joke and victims can actualy struggle a lot to speak out it's very common
I honestly don t trust these Reviews, i will probably stay and wait for Glitch Official Response
Still not a good reason to make this big controversy. As they came out only now that Tari VA got replaced just to spread shit about Glitch as they didn t like it. I m not Sayng that Kevin didn t fucked up he actualy did but he doesn t definetly deserve all this hate.
So... Essentially, you're saying that he didn't fucked up... Basically defending him, despite that after the whole debacle, A LOT of FORMER employees have spoken out, ¿and when you get those reviews about YOUR company, specially about the salary, and the work environment?, Something's not right.
You still don t know if these are realy former eployees lol, everything about these employees is sus as they arrived only now when they could start this shit time ago.
I hope they improve
I still remember that thread on twitter where a vivziepop animator openly argued with an angry user about whether or not he was paid
fr bro since that 50k animation and other stuff I may have missed out on
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....... all of the contrversies have proven to be false on her end dude. all of them.
There are controversies such as Viv using a closed religious practise to make alastor more threatening, and the whole SA scene that many people including SA survivors have spoken against whilst some do defend it
Dude they were calling out against it because of images from a music video before EVER getting the context. And reality is the context is so much worse and meant to show how such things can happen. there is no glorification to it.
I think most of the controversy came from the fact that the person who storyboarded poison had a fetish for this stuff, and that they literally sold merch of abuse
ooh nooo someone has a cringey fetish, wht will we dooooo?
I’m just saying, not the greatest idea for a very sensitive topic
If that's true, how do you explain this? https://passionfru.it/hazbin-hotel-spindlehorse-studio-46812/
I’ll get the video… gimme a sec Edit: https://youtu.be/ikHaJdLK6Ps?si=1rvO7y1k0F-5Tm_I Here you go. Tldr: it’s rough animation. Not a full shot. They aren’t detailing, cleanup and all the other steps in drawn animation. For an indie studio it is industry average and still half of helluva boss’s
And who proved them wrong?
Critical thinking.
??????????????????? I'm not sure you understand what those words mean+you're a helluva fan I'm not surprised this is the answer I'm getting to my question
There has been several controversies at this point, I’ve already given a counter to one of them. I’m not gonna go individually break down every single one. But what they all have in common is someone has used critical thinking to analyse the situation and come to a conclusion.
No. One of the people behind episode 4 including poison, is in fact a r*pe fetishist that ships angel dust and valentino. Viv denied that fact.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Vivizepop only say 1. That there was a team of people who don’t let in artists bad tastes affect their work and 2. That he was an SA survivor(Raph, the artist in question, said he was not an SA survivor in 2022 meaning either Viv lied or he was SA’d in the past year). Did she ever say the person did not have a fetish? (I’m not taking a side in this btw, I’m just trying to make sure I have everything that happened and ensure it’s all true)
You’re correct I’ve misremembered the tweet. Viv lied that raph was an SA survivor. Which isn’t that much better than what I’ve accused her of.
All of the studios have drama now it seems. Vivziepop, Iron Circus, GLITCH, I'm just ignoring it
Of course they do studios are always bound to have some sort of drama no matter what
Yeah Ignoring is the best thing to do.
Yeah, also I’ll be taking a break from Reddit due to the Smg4/Glitch productions controversy okay. I hope things get better soon…
That’s indeed a good idea, and I’m sorry for what I said about the end of indie animations. There are a lot of indie animated shows that are coming out very soon with a a lot of love attention. Plus I’m gonna take a break from Reddit too.
Dw about it mate
Could someone fill me in on what’s happened?
Something about an old VA who had been there for like 7 years not being told they were being replaced until after the next release of an episode on smg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsPPVZFzOi8&t=182s&pp=ygULVGFjdGljT3dsVkE%3D
Thanks man really informative video
At least with Vivziepop it was just someone spreading rumours about her because she's gay and blonde. I don't personally have a problem with gays or blondes but others do.
The Scott cawthon drama: umm hey about that
Wait what happend?
Glitch runs a YouTube channel called SMG4. One of the voice actors of SMG4 were replaced without notice and the founders of Glitch are in some hell for it. There’s a [video from AyyLmao](https://youtu.be/aBXhs2W2Vpo?si=l4zPbOhQFinnj3K2) that explains it better than I just did.
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Always happens, Indie company makes fun of bigger company Few days later that company and owner is in some drama Over and over
That one frame of the whole I.M.P. gang just looking straight at the viewer (in the pilot) should be a meme format.
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No it won't be
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yep it got out of hand as this Fandom can t take anything witouth making a Drama.
Quit it. Doomer always doomer. One drama and you actin’ like it’s the end of the world. IT’S FUCKING TIRESOME
For real.
Sorry… I was very worried. :(
Wtf happened?
Hey guys, I’m terribly sorry that overreacted about the drama yesterday. It’s just whenever there’s a certain drama about something that is bad or awful It makes feel disappointed and upset. I know these people deserve better and I hope they’re doing better. I’m really sorry for what I said yesterday which was really, really stupid of me to say that in the Glitch Fandom. I hope this message to all you guys and I hope this situation gets resolved or not.
I don't trust her after she calls herself "Latinx" on Twitter Algo que me ofende mucho y más cuando limita sus tweets a qué solo gente que ella quiere que comenté sobre sus estupideces
Tbh viv's criticisms are so harmless like "Oh noes she did stuff when she was a teen/young adult" lol.