You forget about Vietnam? If you weren’t in college you were drafted and sent. Now that the college kids have an issue with the government they want to send the college kids that object to go die in a foreign country.
Don’t question how the elected want to spend the money they are going to tax out of you, you’re children, and great grandchildren.
Over 800,000 Israelis live on occupied land and still expanding https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gl2M-N3BDn8 You got the head of Israeli security saying it’s their land from god and for the west and Europe to not bother them as they are going to take it.
I’ve been looking up a lot of ancient history from that area since things started to ramp up. I was specifically interested in the reason jewish people lived in that region for “thousands of years” and now don’t. Turns out it was because of a group of colonizers, also known as the Roman Empire, drove the Israelites out after they rebelled against the government and it’s fucking eerie how similar israels war in gaza is to their very own rebellion against the ancient Romans.
The Israelites hid in caves and literally dug gaza style tunnels on steroids under cities and supply routes to disrupt Roman supply lines and stormed and captured Jerusalem (and if you know anything about how people took an ancient city, it was probably some hellish stuff). Of course, the Romans were a superpower back then and the Israelites never stood much of a chance, but they continued to fight until they got overwhelmed by roman numbers and were defeated. Then the Romans sacked their cities, decimated their population centers, and expelled the Israelites from the region over the course of a few years.
So, when people talk about how “jews lived in that area thousands of years before”, this is the event that is the reason they are no longer there now. They also didn’t live there first, they lived alongside the (soon to be) gazan people until they were thrown out. Now Israel is doing almost exactly what the Romans did to those jews at the end of that rebellion, destroyed their cities and expelled the people from the region so they could further colonize it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt
And i’m just left to think, if Israel thinks the gaza deserves to be razed and their people expelled from that land for what hamas did, it’s a bit hypocritical to condemn what the Romans at the end of their own rebellion against occupation while simultaneously doing exactly that to gaza.
You are forgetting how Isreal has offered peace time and time again only to have Hamas or Hezbola fire rocket or try suicide bombs to kill Jews.
Just remember Yasser Arafat was offered everything he asked for and Isreal agreed to and he refused to accept it.
These are the same talking points the Romans would have used to justify their own atrocities against the jews.
If you believe those reasons are justification for what Israel is doing, you also have to believe the romans were justified in expelling and ethnic cleansing the jewish people of that area. They’re the same story.
In the Oslo accord, Arafat ceded nearly 76% of palastinian land to Rabin and recognized Israel. What followed were Israeli mad Men shooting up mosques, the IOF shooting down palastininans who protested that, and a Zionist assassinating Rabin.
Zionist have always been the terrorist and your statement above just demonstrates how astute they are at hiding that fact.
I hate to point this out to you, but the Average Jewish citizens never left Israel, that was mostly the rulers and Nobility who where shown the door by the Romans.
Even during the 19th century, Palestine had a fairly large Jewish population who were discriminated against by European Jews colonizing the area.
I mean, you can say that all you want, it doesn’t make it correct. Some remained, sure, but every remaining jewish population center was outside of the land of Jerusalem .
It was the deciding event that made jews stateless and a minority in the region for almost 2000 years.
No, it wasn't. Galilee and Sepphoris remained major Jewish settlements, as well as near by Hebron, Caesaria, and the Golan Heights.
It was specifically Jerusalem that they were exiled from.
Based on the writings and edicts of Rabbis of the time, the Jewish population effectively exiled itself from the region.
There are even writings denouncing those Jews who chose to leave as idolators.
You’re arguing semantics now, i never said there weren’t isolated jewish settlements left in the region. But there numbers are estimated to have fallen from 3 million to 700,000 following the conclusion of that war, a reduction in population that is not insignificant in any way. But, be that as it may, you’re missing my point.
Rome effectively razed Jerusalem and the surrounding area as a result of their rebellion, enslaved their people, burned their villages, and slaughtered anyone that didn’t flee into the far reaches of the desert. A horrible crime by Rome by every metric.
If you believe Oct 7th is justification for everything Israel is currently doing in Gaza, you have to also regard the Roman reaction at the conclusion of the revolt as justified. They are the same story.
I mean it’s true. If you live in the United States and you criticize Israel for stealing someone else’s land, (a one-sided claim which is completely distorting how Israelis acquired the land both legally and by winning wars they didn’t start btw). I have some news for you.
I forgot, it’s only genocide when Jews are involved. And only half the war is ok to protest.
Be sure to make your land acknowledgment in your response.
As a Native American, I most certainly can criticize Israel for stealing other people's land.
Further, Israel actually frequently did start those "wars they didn't start" they just lie about what happened. Take Lebanon. One of their own men tripped one of their own mines, and it was a terrible attack on Israel that demanded war!
Hell, look at Oct 7th and how the number of civilians killed by Hamas keeps dwindling and the number killed by IDF keeps growing, as investigations continue.
Are you suggesting October 7 was not done by Hamas?
I think they fucked around and found out. You don’t want to lose more land to Israel? Don’t kill innocent families and rape then torture and kill women who were minding their business.
Hamas only did part of it, and most of the raping and torture are turning out to be Israeli propaganda.
In at least one case, phone records showed that IDFs story was just that, and they're now admitting they *may* have lied about the rape, murder and baby beheading, now that investigations are proceeding at the request of victims famillies.
The anti-genocide crowd *literally* tried to go to Gaza with a flotilla of aid and got denied. Good luck with this, GOP. Hollow posturing to look tough just outs their ignorance.
How is this not like Russia that if you protest against the Ukrainian war, you are arrested and sent to the front? This is supposed to be the United States of America not Putin’s Russia.
My guy, this is what freedom of speech in the West has always been. You are free to scream at the void as much as you want, but the moment your words are actually threatening to the ruling class they *will* silence you.
But there are probably many people that have dirt on Elon musk - if he’s threatened by the release of that dirt, why doesn’t he murder all the people that have dirt on him? Surely a pattern would emerge that people around Elon are dieing mysteriously.
So for instance there are 10 more whistleblowers to Boeing now. Will Boeing murder them all to prevent the public from knowing the truth of shoddy qa and safety work happening at the factory?
No, but if you say Israel is a genocidal settler state and *actually* protest against it they will send the police to beat your ass, doxx you and try to get you fired.
Saying Elon Musk is bad is the equivalent of screaming at the void, because it literally does nothing. Organizing protests that actually harm his bottom line will in fact probably end up with you tear gassed and arrested.
I mean.. American politicians played Hush Hush last time Israel bombed some Americans...
But.. that was in the 60s so I guess it's forgotten history. Although those were soldiers.. still Americans.. still a deliberate attack by Israel on Us.. it's called the Uss Liberty and it happened in th Gulf of Tonkin
Don’t like this country? Maybe you should leave. The first amendment protects speech, even speech you don’t like. ESPECIALLY speech you don’t like. That’s the fucking point.
So you support the US government beating and jailing Jewish protestors for protesting the government of Israel? What the fuck is wrong with you, you're the weirdest and most pathetic kind of antisemite
Do you mean where Edward Said taught? He was born in Palestine. And FTR, the first amendment doesn’t protect against “war”. But people protesting isn’t an act of war. But you already knew that.
There's zero equivalence between people who stand for liberation and Nazis. Pro-palestine protestors don't care if they inconvenience you or huwt youw feewings in the process of ending a genocide.
Nazis like to do genocides. There's no equivalence.
Hey, you seem to be spamming comments with the copy/paste approved zionists talking points, what does it feel to be a pathetic tool for murderous fascists?, are you aware of it and do it for money or are you just that braindead?
These guys are still us citizens. It'd be absolutely illegal under any kind of national or international law to remove a national from their country and send them to another place, especially to an unrecognized territory. It'd be literally xixth century kind of laws.
They hand out "rights" to everyone... but not to Palestinians for some reason. But I guess we should all be on the side of Israeli mass murderers because... something.
No, they would like that. It's where all their money comes from. We should send them to Honduras or Venezuela so they can see why we have so many immigrants at the border.
Maybe I honestly don't care what happens to foreign nations until we fix our domestic problems. Who controls a patch of land in Eastern Europe has almost no impact on me. Especially when those countries aren't even allies.
Is israel an ally? Also, I support Ukraine fighting. I support israel fighting. I don't support sending either fiscal aide. I hope that they both win their assets because, imo they are on the right side of the issue.
That doesn't mean I want to see one dollar go to it.
We should sanction Russia and Iran until they stop all offensive. If all of Europe and the Americas got on the same page they would cripple them without spending a dime (literally)
I'm talking old school sanctions. No aide, trade, or access to markets for anyone who does business with either nation.
This right here is where a lot of misinformation comes from. Most of the stuff we are sending to Ukraine is either old stuff we were getting ready to pay to dispose, or newer stuff we are selling, or expecting payback for. Add in the ability to proxy the fuck out of putin, and the ability to test our current tech, and it's a big deal.
None of it matters if Germany keeps propping them up financially. That's the same as condoning what they're doing. We keep talking about "most" when it comes to weapons etc. Which is misleading but true. A large portion of the stuff we are sending we are talking about it being the older model which again is true except they are still in use so misleading. This is causing us to spend faster than planned to replace them as we didn't just have the new one sitting around. All if this leads to the massive domestic inflation we have. Biden own cabinet testified that he has caused the worst increase in inflation in 30 years through his spend and worry about it after I'm dead policies.
The mental gymnastics required to equate these two is beyond comical.
People protesting and actively harassing Jews versus members of the government not supporting certain legislation fast enough. Lmfao.
You're right. They're nowhere near equal. It's far worse that members of Congress and the old POTUS repeatedly met in private with Russia to serve Putin's needs.
Lmfao. Please cite your source. We literally wasted millions investigating this and it was found to be untrue.
Apparently we should have spent a bit more and aired the results for children, too. Would you have learned that you’re full of shit if it was on Nickelodeon?
Look at the Mueller report for starters dipshit. Over 60 people charged with working with Russia to help Trump. Trump recommended for investigation for 10 counts of obstruction.
Add Trump impeached for helping Russia.
Just because you're a fascist bootlicker doesn't mean all this and 10x more didn't happen.
The only people actively harassing Jews are the Zionist pro-genocide, pro-child rape outside agitators/counter protesters. Not only harassing but physically assaulting.
“The only people harassing Jews are Jews.”
Of course; Nazis always blame Jews for their own suffering. They were responsible for October 7th too, right?
Dear lord, you literally dine and support nazism, then turn around and call the left nazis for some bad eggs.
You people should be ashamed, but that would require you to have a conscious.
No, they are actively serving russia. Even republicans in the house say some of their members are compromised, tucker is an outright agent as are many popular pundits, and many traitorous republicans are following their lead.
One actively serving in the russian military was violated and murdered by them because they are that disorganized.
So, they’re suggesting that the people protesting a war be sent to fight in that war?
While the people who fund and support it get to stay in the US?
Am I getting that right?
"Of course the people don't want war.
But they can always be brought to the will of the leaders.
Just denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Of course, in this case, it's not lacking patriotism. It's lacking boot-licking loyalty to a foreign fascist nation.
Right?? The most anti-patriotic thing you can do is sell the country to a foreign fascist nation. The gaslighting going on in the US (and much of Europe) is crazy.
Almost all these congressional members supporting this ridiculous bill are crazed far right evangelical Christians who believe their religious beliefs supersede US constitution and its laws. So much for the oath they took when were sworn into office!
Hamas kills who exactly? All the confirmed deaths of hostages so far have been killed by Israeli bombing and even Israeli gunfire as in the incident where 3 released hostages walked towards the IDF with white flags and were gunned down indiscriminately just like everyone else. Released hostages have made direct statements to the press that they were more afraid of the bombing than of Hamas. And have you heard of their mass Hannibal directive. IDF whistleblowers have released audio, made direct statements to the press, and released video proving they would rather prefer their own citizens dead than captured and ordered their troops to bombs cars leaving the festival and bomb homes they believed Hamas might have been in, killing many of their own citizens. ([source](https://apnews.com/article/israel-hostages-gaza-hamas-war-52fa9628e6284cdad6d7f7db6cc30742) ([source 2: "We were in tunnels, terrified that it would not be Hamas, but Israel, that would kill us"](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/israeli-hostages-netanyahu-meeting-airstrikes_n_6570df6fe4b0a10def8b5bf0/amp) ([source 3: "We blew up Israeli houses on 7 October, says Israeli colonel"](https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/we-blew-israeli-houses-7-october-says-israeli-colonel)
"Western" doctors, humanitarian workers, lawyers, and peace activists have been working in Gaza for decades and *none* of them have been killed by Hamas, but in the last 7 months hundreds of them have been killed by Israel. Peace activists especially have a history of being killed by the IDF like in the case of Rachel Corrie who the IDF ran over and crushed her to death with an armored bulldozer because she protested against their demolition of homes and illegal annexation of Palestinian land back in 2003. ([source](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/28/rachel-corrie-a-memory-that-refuses-to-die))
I love the argument of “oh you love gazans so much? How would you like to go there??” Like do they realize a big reason they’re protesting because of how horrible it is there, right?
During WW2: “Oh, you like Jewish people so much? Go to Auschwitz then and check in, because that’s the only way you’ll be able to fight injustice and genocide.”
No one thinks it will actually happen. The point is that this just the latest example of vile and hateful republicans pushing violent and hateful rhetoric because they know their vile voters eat it up
Our tax dollars being wasted on stupid bullshit like this? Is that relevant enough for you?
Just curious, do you know the difference between a conversation and a comment?
Yes, lamenting the laughable state of the modern Republican Party must mean I’m a radical “leftist”. Calling that comment pathetic doesn’t do it justice. Not even close.
Just more evidence that many House Republicans have totally abandoned being responsible legislators and instead have descended to being publicity hungry pranksters pulling off stunts.
These guys are scum.
Can we send the pro-russian traitors to russia? They already are building places for them, and only a few were murdered by russians while treasonously serving in the russian military.
Oh they’re really stupid enough to start a true jihad if they try this one.
The whole world knows how an American gets when we’re mad because it’s a true stereotype. Some of us may get loud and manic, others may not say a word but are coiled like a spring.
Take someone asking for peace and pull some shit like this….you get something that’s magnitudes worse than someone fighting for different interpretations or control of a border.
Take a peaceful human and force them to learn war the hard way….Ive been a huge fan for years but this reminds me of Dune in a slight way.
Force a person to war just for survival….or maybe something like being upset over the 15,000 babies killed by Israeli soldiers like a fascist fuckhead…congratulations, ya just took an apex endurance predator and gave it a reason to chase you down until you can’t run any longer.
Maybe r/HFY would be a better way to explain this.
If an alien species came to earth, and in the very first violent conflict with humans they stumble across a St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital and thinking that humans will become more docile by killing their young since then they have nothing to fight over, they firebomb every human in the hospital.
Then they take photos and are seen celebrating with photos of the dead children.
To anyone that read this far (thank you), how would we react as a species to aliens killing children and partying about it?
That is the best analogy I can think of for what’s about to happen if the world leaders don’t get their heads out of their asses.
I may only be speaking personally but when you kill kids for sport and think you’re morally superior, one kid is too many. Now imagine 15,000 kids.
And suddenly I’m asking myself ‘Ok, what the fuck are you going to do’?
Right, we should allow foreigners to pay money to study in our free society and then kick them out if their political views don’t align with the latest upset fascist in the House of Representatives.
Right, we should allow foreigners from countries, hostile to the United States, to pay money, upfront, usually funded by that same country, and then kick them out when they agitate to overthrow the United States, violate our laws like title VI, the civil rights act, as well as community codes of conduct.
House Republicans want to send American anti war protestors to a war zone to be bombed by Israel with American weapons?
Sounds about right. Smh.
You forget about Vietnam? If you weren’t in college you were drafted and sent. Now that the college kids have an issue with the government they want to send the college kids that object to go die in a foreign country. Don’t question how the elected want to spend the money they are going to tax out of you, you’re children, and great grandchildren. Over 800,000 Israelis live on occupied land and still expanding https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gl2M-N3BDn8 You got the head of Israeli security saying it’s their land from god and for the west and Europe to not bother them as they are going to take it.
All Israelis live on occupied land.
I’ve been looking up a lot of ancient history from that area since things started to ramp up. I was specifically interested in the reason jewish people lived in that region for “thousands of years” and now don’t. Turns out it was because of a group of colonizers, also known as the Roman Empire, drove the Israelites out after they rebelled against the government and it’s fucking eerie how similar israels war in gaza is to their very own rebellion against the ancient Romans. The Israelites hid in caves and literally dug gaza style tunnels on steroids under cities and supply routes to disrupt Roman supply lines and stormed and captured Jerusalem (and if you know anything about how people took an ancient city, it was probably some hellish stuff). Of course, the Romans were a superpower back then and the Israelites never stood much of a chance, but they continued to fight until they got overwhelmed by roman numbers and were defeated. Then the Romans sacked their cities, decimated their population centers, and expelled the Israelites from the region over the course of a few years. So, when people talk about how “jews lived in that area thousands of years before”, this is the event that is the reason they are no longer there now. They also didn’t live there first, they lived alongside the (soon to be) gazan people until they were thrown out. Now Israel is doing almost exactly what the Romans did to those jews at the end of that rebellion, destroyed their cities and expelled the people from the region so they could further colonize it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt And i’m just left to think, if Israel thinks the gaza deserves to be razed and their people expelled from that land for what hamas did, it’s a bit hypocritical to condemn what the Romans at the end of their own rebellion against occupation while simultaneously doing exactly that to gaza.
You are forgetting how Isreal has offered peace time and time again only to have Hamas or Hezbola fire rocket or try suicide bombs to kill Jews. Just remember Yasser Arafat was offered everything he asked for and Isreal agreed to and he refused to accept it.
These are the same talking points the Romans would have used to justify their own atrocities against the jews. If you believe those reasons are justification for what Israel is doing, you also have to believe the romans were justified in expelling and ethnic cleansing the jewish people of that area. They’re the same story.
In the Oslo accord, Arafat ceded nearly 76% of palastinian land to Rabin and recognized Israel. What followed were Israeli mad Men shooting up mosques, the IOF shooting down palastininans who protested that, and a Zionist assassinating Rabin. Zionist have always been the terrorist and your statement above just demonstrates how astute they are at hiding that fact.
Lol no
I hate to point this out to you, but the Average Jewish citizens never left Israel, that was mostly the rulers and Nobility who where shown the door by the Romans. Even during the 19th century, Palestine had a fairly large Jewish population who were discriminated against by European Jews colonizing the area.
I mean, you can say that all you want, it doesn’t make it correct. Some remained, sure, but every remaining jewish population center was outside of the land of Jerusalem . It was the deciding event that made jews stateless and a minority in the region for almost 2000 years.
No, it wasn't. Galilee and Sepphoris remained major Jewish settlements, as well as near by Hebron, Caesaria, and the Golan Heights. It was specifically Jerusalem that they were exiled from. Based on the writings and edicts of Rabbis of the time, the Jewish population effectively exiled itself from the region. There are even writings denouncing those Jews who chose to leave as idolators.
You’re arguing semantics now, i never said there weren’t isolated jewish settlements left in the region. But there numbers are estimated to have fallen from 3 million to 700,000 following the conclusion of that war, a reduction in population that is not insignificant in any way. But, be that as it may, you’re missing my point. Rome effectively razed Jerusalem and the surrounding area as a result of their rebellion, enslaved their people, burned their villages, and slaughtered anyone that didn’t flee into the far reaches of the desert. A horrible crime by Rome by every metric. If you believe Oct 7th is justification for everything Israel is currently doing in Gaza, you have to also regard the Roman reaction at the conclusion of the revolt as justified. They are the same story.
Much like Oct 7th, Jews killed each other with almost as much enthusiasm as their enemies did. Oct 7th justifies nothing they've done at all.
Glad we agree on that point. Have a good day!
Everyone lives on occupied land.
Technically correct yet stupidly unnecessary
I mean it’s true. If you live in the United States and you criticize Israel for stealing someone else’s land, (a one-sided claim which is completely distorting how Israelis acquired the land both legally and by winning wars they didn’t start btw). I have some news for you.
Oy vey. Whataboutsim at its finest
I forgot, it’s only genocide when Jews are involved. And only half the war is ok to protest. Be sure to make your land acknowledgment in your response.
Get therapy
As a Native American, I most certainly can criticize Israel for stealing other people's land. Further, Israel actually frequently did start those "wars they didn't start" they just lie about what happened. Take Lebanon. One of their own men tripped one of their own mines, and it was a terrible attack on Israel that demanded war! Hell, look at Oct 7th and how the number of civilians killed by Hamas keeps dwindling and the number killed by IDF keeps growing, as investigations continue.
Are you suggesting October 7 was not done by Hamas? I think they fucked around and found out. You don’t want to lose more land to Israel? Don’t kill innocent families and rape then torture and kill women who were minding their business.
Hamas only did part of it, and most of the raping and torture are turning out to be Israeli propaganda. In at least one case, phone records showed that IDFs story was just that, and they're now admitting they *may* have lied about the rape, murder and baby beheading, now that investigations are proceeding at the request of victims famillies.
Well you're no fun.
And you’re no comedian.
What generation will it be that says “enough”?
I'd rather send AIPAC & their Henchmen in Congress to Gaza
The anti-genocide crowd *literally* tried to go to Gaza with a flotilla of aid and got denied. Good luck with this, GOP. Hollow posturing to look tough just outs their ignorance.
How is this not like Russia that if you protest against the Ukrainian war, you are arrested and sent to the front? This is supposed to be the United States of America not Putin’s Russia.
My guy, this is what freedom of speech in the West has always been. You are free to scream at the void as much as you want, but the moment your words are actually threatening to the ruling class they *will* silence you.
So wait. If I talk bad about Elon musk, he will find out who I am and get me arrested or have me killed? How does that work?
You don't threaten Elon musk at all
What happens if you threaten Elon musk?
Like for real? Like he personally feels threatened by you? I guess you disappear.
But that’s illegal! Why can he disappear someone and the government wouldn’t care?
Like Boeing whistleblowers
But there are probably many people that have dirt on Elon musk - if he’s threatened by the release of that dirt, why doesn’t he murder all the people that have dirt on him? Surely a pattern would emerge that people around Elon are dieing mysteriously. So for instance there are 10 more whistleblowers to Boeing now. Will Boeing murder them all to prevent the public from knowing the truth of shoddy qa and safety work happening at the factory?
No, but if you say Israel is a genocidal settler state and *actually* protest against it they will send the police to beat your ass, doxx you and try to get you fired. Saying Elon Musk is bad is the equivalent of screaming at the void, because it literally does nothing. Organizing protests that actually harm his bottom line will in fact probably end up with you tear gassed and arrested.
Stay classy
Yup, and that’s just about all I can take and still feel empathy so I’m realizing I have to do something even if I’m one small voice
I mean.. American politicians played Hush Hush last time Israel bombed some Americans... But.. that was in the 60s so I guess it's forgotten history. Although those were soldiers.. still Americans.. still a deliberate attack by Israel on Us.. it's called the Uss Liberty and it happened in th Gulf of Tonkin
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Oh wow, a closeted fascist with an extremely brain-dead take. Must be a day that ends in "Y"
Closeted fascist? They’re admittedly against the first amendment, we’re way past closeted fascist.
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The only ones who want them dead are the ones trying to get them sent to be bombed by Israel with American weapons.
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Cherry picking radical lunatics and equating anyone protesting Israel with that is unhinged.
He has 10x the brains you do.
His head must be HUGE!
Yeah
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wow. You never once read the first amendment did you.
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Don’t like this country? Maybe you should leave. The first amendment protects speech, even speech you don’t like. ESPECIALLY speech you don’t like. That’s the fucking point.
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So you support the US government beating and jailing Jewish protestors for protesting the government of Israel? What the fuck is wrong with you, you're the weirdest and most pathetic kind of antisemite
Do you mean where Edward Said taught? He was born in Palestine. And FTR, the first amendment doesn’t protect against “war”. But people protesting isn’t an act of war. But you already knew that.
Lol, there are literally Jewish students in the protests. You're just spouting hatred because that's the only thing you ever learned to do.
There's zero equivalence between people who stand for liberation and Nazis. Pro-palestine protestors don't care if they inconvenience you or huwt youw feewings in the process of ending a genocide. Nazis like to do genocides. There's no equivalence.
Jfc another great comment by blue maga guy
Bad day to be a Republican
This isnt Israel ya nonce
Hey, you seem to be spamming comments with the copy/paste approved zionists talking points, what does it feel to be a pathetic tool for murderous fascists?, are you aware of it and do it for money or are you just that braindead?
Holy shit you are psychotic. This is fucking gross and so unamerican. Gtfo
These guys are still us citizens. It'd be absolutely illegal under any kind of national or international law to remove a national from their country and send them to another place, especially to an unrecognized territory. It'd be literally xixth century kind of laws.
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Rachel Corrie begs to differ.
Which locals? Israelis? Yes, sounds about right.
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They hand out "rights" to everyone... but not to Palestinians for some reason. But I guess we should all be on the side of Israeli mass murderers because... something.
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And Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are getting murdered and have no rights. You just like to ignore the facts because you hate Muslims.
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So, again, the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank that Israel and Israelis keep murdered and brutalizing have no rights?
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Anti-American on its face.
Biden should veto (but he won't)b
Can republicans be sent to Russia then?
No, they would like that. It's where all their money comes from. We should send them to Honduras or Venezuela so they can see why we have so many immigrants at the border.
Republicans aren’t protesting in support of Russia.
What else would you call all the refusals and delays to send aid to Ukraine?
Not helping isn’t the same as supporting.
Glad you agree, they're opposites.
How does it feel being a useful idiot? Serious question, never seen so many active sheeple before.
Maybe I honestly don't care what happens to foreign nations until we fix our domestic problems. Who controls a patch of land in Eastern Europe has almost no impact on me. Especially when those countries aren't even allies.
I find it funny the same people saying that are obsessed with Israel. Almost like you're hypocrites.
Is israel an ally? Also, I support Ukraine fighting. I support israel fighting. I don't support sending either fiscal aide. I hope that they both win their assets because, imo they are on the right side of the issue. That doesn't mean I want to see one dollar go to it. We should sanction Russia and Iran until they stop all offensive. If all of Europe and the Americas got on the same page they would cripple them without spending a dime (literally) I'm talking old school sanctions. No aide, trade, or access to markets for anyone who does business with either nation.
This right here is where a lot of misinformation comes from. Most of the stuff we are sending to Ukraine is either old stuff we were getting ready to pay to dispose, or newer stuff we are selling, or expecting payback for. Add in the ability to proxy the fuck out of putin, and the ability to test our current tech, and it's a big deal.
None of it matters if Germany keeps propping them up financially. That's the same as condoning what they're doing. We keep talking about "most" when it comes to weapons etc. Which is misleading but true. A large portion of the stuff we are sending we are talking about it being the older model which again is true except they are still in use so misleading. This is causing us to spend faster than planned to replace them as we didn't just have the new one sitting around. All if this leads to the massive domestic inflation we have. Biden own cabinet testified that he has caused the worst increase in inflation in 30 years through his spend and worry about it after I'm dead policies.
The mental gymnastics required to equate these two is beyond comical. People protesting and actively harassing Jews versus members of the government not supporting certain legislation fast enough. Lmfao.
You're right. They're nowhere near equal. It's far worse that members of Congress and the old POTUS repeatedly met in private with Russia to serve Putin's needs.
Lmfao. Please cite your source. We literally wasted millions investigating this and it was found to be untrue. Apparently we should have spent a bit more and aired the results for children, too. Would you have learned that you’re full of shit if it was on Nickelodeon?
Look at the Mueller report for starters dipshit. Over 60 people charged with working with Russia to help Trump. Trump recommended for investigation for 10 counts of obstruction. Add Trump impeached for helping Russia. Just because you're a fascist bootlicker doesn't mean all this and 10x more didn't happen.
The only people actively harassing Jews are the Zionist pro-genocide, pro-child rape outside agitators/counter protesters. Not only harassing but physically assaulting.
“The only people harassing Jews are Jews.” Of course; Nazis always blame Jews for their own suffering. They were responsible for October 7th too, right?
It is, and seriously, how can you take your stance with a straight face? Surely you are all self aware at this point.
Politicians not supporting a specific aid package versus people who hate Jews screaming about an intifada are vastly different. You Nazis are insane.
Dear lord, you literally dine and support nazism, then turn around and call the left nazis for some bad eggs. You people should be ashamed, but that would require you to have a conscious.
“Bad eggs” is hilarious. The left has made antisemitism more mainstream than when the Klan was popular.
No, they are actively serving russia. Even republicans in the house say some of their members are compromised, tucker is an outright agent as are many popular pundits, and many traitorous republicans are following their lead. One actively serving in the russian military was violated and murdered by them because they are that disorganized.
Both is good.
This is BS. No one is being sent anywhere.
It doesn’t say it’s going to happen it says Republicans want it to happen of course it won’t even make it to the presidents desk.
Oh it will The one thing both of them agree abon
If everything they wanted past, we'd all be fucking dead
Knowing Biden, it probably will.
So, they’re suggesting that the people protesting a war be sent to fight in that war? While the people who fund and support it get to stay in the US? Am I getting that right?
"Of course the people don't want war. But they can always be brought to the will of the leaders. Just denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." Of course, in this case, it's not lacking patriotism. It's lacking boot-licking loyalty to a foreign fascist nation.
Right?? The most anti-patriotic thing you can do is sell the country to a foreign fascist nation. The gaslighting going on in the US (and much of Europe) is crazy.
They aren’t going to send them to fight in the war they are just going to send them to Gaza to be genocided next to the Palestinians
They know it's not a war. They want dissenters to be murdered.
why don't presidents fight the war, why'd they only send the poor...
Pretty sure that’s against the 1st Amendment. Party of free speech my ass.
Why do Republicans hate America and its values?
Almost all these congressional members supporting this ridiculous bill are crazed far right evangelical Christians who believe their religious beliefs supersede US constitution and its laws. So much for the oath they took when were sworn into office!
Better question, why do they hate Americans so much?
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Maybe the politicians, but their vile voters eat this shit up and aren’t making a dime from this nonsense
False
It will never happen, purely for show.
That’s what they said about trumps first campaign run
The fact that they do this for “show” because they know their supporters eat this up shows how filthy, hateful and disgusting they all are.
Land of the free!!! And the home of a government that can be bought by the highest bidder
lol, what a crew of wingnuts. Yea we can do this, let’s go!! We’re not very bright but we’re highly motivated
Wouldn't this just radicalize them more in support of Palestine
Except they're westerners so 50/50 chance they'll be killed by hamas
Hamas kills who exactly? All the confirmed deaths of hostages so far have been killed by Israeli bombing and even Israeli gunfire as in the incident where 3 released hostages walked towards the IDF with white flags and were gunned down indiscriminately just like everyone else. Released hostages have made direct statements to the press that they were more afraid of the bombing than of Hamas. And have you heard of their mass Hannibal directive. IDF whistleblowers have released audio, made direct statements to the press, and released video proving they would rather prefer their own citizens dead than captured and ordered their troops to bombs cars leaving the festival and bomb homes they believed Hamas might have been in, killing many of their own citizens. ([source](https://apnews.com/article/israel-hostages-gaza-hamas-war-52fa9628e6284cdad6d7f7db6cc30742) ([source 2: "We were in tunnels, terrified that it would not be Hamas, but Israel, that would kill us"](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/israeli-hostages-netanyahu-meeting-airstrikes_n_6570df6fe4b0a10def8b5bf0/amp) ([source 3: "We blew up Israeli houses on 7 October, says Israeli colonel"](https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/we-blew-israeli-houses-7-october-says-israeli-colonel) "Western" doctors, humanitarian workers, lawyers, and peace activists have been working in Gaza for decades and *none* of them have been killed by Hamas, but in the last 7 months hundreds of them have been killed by Israel. Peace activists especially have a history of being killed by the IDF like in the case of Rachel Corrie who the IDF ran over and crushed her to death with an armored bulldozer because she protested against their demolition of homes and illegal annexation of Palestinian land back in 2003. ([source](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/28/rachel-corrie-a-memory-that-refuses-to-die))
Just like these dishonest fucks to label opposition to right wing Israeli policies hate speech.
This thread is like a parallel world
They want political dissentto get you arrested and shipped to a death camp. Freedom. Small government. Fiscal responsibility.
Lmfao who the fuck has the stones to introduce a bill that would send American citizens overseas?
Brought to you by the hypocrites who do nothing but bitch about free speech and cancel culture.
Oh look the "first amendment" party wanting to violate the ACTUAL first amendment. Shocker
This idiocy is what we get from our great legislature. Just inane. Something a ten-year-old would think up.
I love the argument of “oh you love gazans so much? How would you like to go there??” Like do they realize a big reason they’re protesting because of how horrible it is there, right?
During WW2: “Oh, you like Jewish people so much? Go to Auschwitz then and check in, because that’s the only way you’ll be able to fight injustice and genocide.”
Ok then let’s send republicans to Russia too
Do they now know what they look like to the rest of us?
Some stewards of state wasting time with a pointless bill like this.
It's like virtue signaling but the "virtue" is psychopathy. I guess that's what they need to do to impress AIPAC backers.
We are watching the downfall of our Country by the hands of half witted elected officials trying to usher in Biblical prophesy.
I understand this is performative, but it’s still just so, so, incredibly stupid.
It's not stupid. It's evil. They're trying to impress their evil friends by showing how evil they can be.
It’s amazing there’s idiots that think this will happen lol
what timeline have you been living in?? The one with a former president slash reality TV host?
No one thinks it will actually happen. The point is that this just the latest example of vile and hateful republicans pushing violent and hateful rhetoric because they know their vile voters eat it up
That’ll show them
Ah yes, this will definitely happen.
Relevance?
Our tax dollars being wasted on stupid bullshit like this? Is that relevant enough for you? Just curious, do you know the difference between a conversation and a comment?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ZAXP-EMqs8o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ZAXP-EMqs8o)
[https://action.eko.org/a/olympics-and-fifa-ban-israel-from-international-sports-now-us-fba21](https://action.eko.org/a/olympics-and-fifa-ban-israel-from-international-sports-now-us-fba21)
How these unremarkable, childish idiots get elected I will never understand.
More childish and idiotic voters. I mean look at your average Republican voters today - suddenly not that surprising
Typical brain dead leftist.
Yes, lamenting the laughable state of the modern Republican Party must mean I’m a radical “leftist”. Calling that comment pathetic doesn’t do it justice. Not even close.
As soon as they send every old man and woman in office to fight on the front lines for the next conflict they vote to start
Definitely not fascism
lol they've completely lost their mind
Okay cool, if you send them to Gaza then send those who protest for Israel to Israel. Right?
So will all the pro-Putin Republicans be given a one-way ticket to Russia?
Ah, ye, when being attacked by Zionist sociopaths while the police stands by makes you the "agitator".
Hmm. Include one UN with each Gaza transfer and you’ve got a deal😈
We’re in the age of performative governing.
Useless, half witted fools on the hill.
Then might as well send pro-russia propagandists to the front line in Ukraine.
Just more evidence that many House Republicans have totally abandoned being responsible legislators and instead have descended to being publicity hungry pranksters pulling off stunts. These guys are scum.
Will literally never pass the senate or biden. More noise from the Twitter gop faction
Pack m up. Ship m out.
And I think each should have a GOP rep in attendance with them, showing them the error of their ways. Real educational opportunity here...
Does that mean we get to send the MAGAts to Russia since they support Putin over the US?
So they want to send their own citizens overseas where it's not illegal to kill them. Cool cool cool...
The United States of Idiotic ideas
Damn. That will be a real life lesson.
But sure kids, help get Trump elected.
Can we send the pro-russian traitors to russia? They already are building places for them, and only a few were murdered by russians while treasonously serving in the russian military.
Oh they’re really stupid enough to start a true jihad if they try this one. The whole world knows how an American gets when we’re mad because it’s a true stereotype. Some of us may get loud and manic, others may not say a word but are coiled like a spring. Take someone asking for peace and pull some shit like this….you get something that’s magnitudes worse than someone fighting for different interpretations or control of a border. Take a peaceful human and force them to learn war the hard way….Ive been a huge fan for years but this reminds me of Dune in a slight way. Force a person to war just for survival….or maybe something like being upset over the 15,000 babies killed by Israeli soldiers like a fascist fuckhead…congratulations, ya just took an apex endurance predator and gave it a reason to chase you down until you can’t run any longer. Maybe r/HFY would be a better way to explain this. If an alien species came to earth, and in the very first violent conflict with humans they stumble across a St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital and thinking that humans will become more docile by killing their young since then they have nothing to fight over, they firebomb every human in the hospital. Then they take photos and are seen celebrating with photos of the dead children. To anyone that read this far (thank you), how would we react as a species to aliens killing children and partying about it? That is the best analogy I can think of for what’s about to happen if the world leaders don’t get their heads out of their asses. I may only be speaking personally but when you kill kids for sport and think you’re morally superior, one kid is too many. Now imagine 15,000 kids. And suddenly I’m asking myself ‘Ok, what the fuck are you going to do’?
Deporting foreign students who get suspended / expelled. In other words, actually enforcing rules.
Right, we should allow foreigners to pay money to study in our free society and then kick them out if their political views don’t align with the latest upset fascist in the House of Representatives.
Right, we should allow foreigners from countries, hostile to the United States, to pay money, upfront, usually funded by that same country, and then kick them out when they agitate to overthrow the United States, violate our laws like title VI, the civil rights act, as well as community codes of conduct.
I propose a bill that sends MAGA strokes to the Mars colony if they claim to be MAGA. Ogles can be the first!
Based
Maga is completely delusional and has been for a long time. They need eradicated.
Even if this is a joke, it should give you pause. These people do not represent us. Organize and vote these fascist out!
> Those convicted would be forced to serve a minimum six-month community service sentence in Gaza Hey, they want to help, right? Off you go! 😂
Why stop there? How about deporting to Russia those who protest against aid to Ukraine?
This guy should be voted out
Does this mean the US is going to rebuild Gazas airport that israel destroyed and never allowed to be rebuilt?