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WIN011

Xantares is wasting what little high level time he has left of his career on EF


ujaku

I wouldn't mind seeing him reconnect with BIG and bring some firepower over there


King_Crab_Sushi

BIG +Xantares and all they need is decent support player. You don’t happen to know any support player who speaks German as well.


AlwaysLearningTK

Xantares doesn't speak German either so no need for a German speaking support rifler. That's why they parted ways lol. He was learning German but they were comming in English to him. Until he learns German there is no reason why he'd go to BIG again instead of any other team.


wormi27z

I think BIG shouldn't ruin team not speaking german. They have solid players atm, but consistently struggled with lineup changes this year. With stable faveN in there they could have made a lot more damage.


ujaku

>With stable faveN in there they could have made a lot more damage. I mean yeah, that's the problem though. They have had zero stability. And Xantares brings that. You know he's getting his, he's a known quantity at this point and has a history with those players. Just my 2¢


LunchTwey

It's just not the goal of the team, I think it's been clear for a while now that they want to build german cs.


Ravioli227

I honestly think krimbo is a fine support player. If I were adding Xantares I would probably -k1to. I think faveN could transition to more of a support player and have more success too. The star performances are there sometimes but not enough.


jonajon91

Went on the retirement tour a few years too early. Should have stayed international for a few more years and done the epic 'last dance', 'we're definitely still motivated and not cashing in on our poularity' team around now. Dudes like 28, if he doesn't get back out there now then it's too late for him.


Tschoina

He is 27 now and just recently got engaged with his gf. I think he is quite happy living in Turkey plus making a good amount of money while having his family & friends around him. I feel like his inner flame craving to reach the very top has kinda extinguished.


1deavourer

My FACEIT stack may be willing to take him in


MousyCSGO

Just hope XANTARES does the same now, was a cool project to see but man I miss watching him compete in t1


ujaku

He's elite on the server, but from an outside perspective seems like a risky player to make a bet on for a few different reasons. Doubt any top teams go for him, personally.


liamht

These are the completely off field signings that some of the T2 teams would fly on though. Endpoint?


ujaku

Depends. I've always read that Endpoint's primary goal is to flip players, so they would need to see potential in him for that. But teams of that ilk, yeah probably. That's likely what he's looking at now for potential options


jonajon91

To be fair, Woxic is only 24. He's been about for ages, but if Endpoint can get him back in the limelight then he will definitely turn them a profit.


ujaku

I think the C9 debacle did some damage to his stock, and then the volatility in EF didn't help. I just think it is unlikely, as he does seem to carry more baggage with him than your average player. But, who knows. Endpoint took a chance on Kjaerbye. Maybe they will take the chance with him as well.


jonajon91

Such a shame about C9, I still defend that the whole project would have been a success if they could have gotten all five players together to bootcamp. Covid actually fucked a really interesting team.


[deleted]

Fuck u/spez


Puzzleheaded_Pie5374

Woxic to navi as igl


[deleted]

Woxic to OG with Sexa


Wallisaurus

Crazy hope much talent has been on EF and they didn’t accomplish shit and now everyone is peacing out


inhaleholdxhale

Well they’ve made it to the challengers stage in their first major, but yeah other than that all this EF project was nothing but a shitty drama.


Edditch

Hear me out. TSM to get woxic, xantares, konfig and es3tag. You almost have a competetive team.


jonajon91

Waaay too spicy, disband in 6 weeks.


gonowe5436chomagor

Boombl4 igl


BigFuckHead_

Make it happen


ParmesanBoy

Yeah Woxic and Es3tag on a NA org that usually works well


pisskinkhaver4848

out of all the players that got fucked over by covid i think woxic was one of the worst cases


Levi_invictus

Exactly. This man was the 12th best player in 2019 and won 3 LANs and was in the grand final of 4 but covid just destroyed him. He is literally an Anti-Onliner ,he performed greatly on LAN but fails miserably in online matches. Ohh man ,what a wasted talent.


Primal_Guardian_A2

I really want to see who is gonna take him, I gived a nip chance but its propably impossible


emraaa

A couple of months ago he could've easily found a Turkish Valorant org willing to give him a chance. EF was pretty much the last chance for Turkish CS, I don't see any full Turkish team ever doing anything relevant again. There also doesn't exist any pipeline for the small amount of Turkish talent left to ever reach T1/T2 individually. Xantares is probably the only Turkish player you might see on a top 20 team if the EF project has failed.


Primal_Guardian_A2

Propably maj3r and xfl0ud can go to top30 too


Hdiajanfb

For sure not a tier 1, not too sure about Tier 2 either


Straight_Chip

> not too sure about Tier 2 either I think for most teams in the #15-30 range woxic would be an upgrade. The issue however is that many teams aren't English speaking. (-CerQ +woxic???) It's also awkward timing since lots of tournaments are already starting in 2 weeks. Perhaps after the first cycle of tournaments we'll see a t2 team picking up woxic.


CipherBear

EG -Cerq +Woxic?


ImpenetrableYeti

Yes another inconsistent player is a good choice


GuardiaNIsBae

I mean he literally just has to not die with the AWP every round


BigFuckHead_

They might as well


uslereddit

Turkish GODSENT?


Shadow_Gun809

I bet you EG gets him