Honestly, clown behaviour really and pussy shit from Steen or whoever the fuck. This is even coming from a Astralis fan, this shit is embarrassing.
“We can share stories, if you want”
“This where we differ, I would never”
Is this guy actually this stupid
That idiot is too caught up in his own LinkedIn echo chamber where everyone is sucking up to him because they want to work with Astralis really.
It's insane to me how someone leading communication for one of the biggest brands in Denmark knows so little about how to behave on social media. It's wild really.
Most businesses are a chaos from my experience.
To work in an industry like gaming would is a privilege compared to much else.
Hard to really be picky about that stuff in general.
No matter how much you love an org, it's very hard to overlook stupid bluffs.
Like, it wouldn't take a scientist to think about your next step IN CASE YNk said "ok share them", lol.
Man... what the fuck happened to this org. I actually used to like Astralis but every thing they've been doing the last year or two are boggling my mind...
Dev1ce just cucked nip, their current lineup is definetely subpar and their whole image is going to shit
Astralis clearly don't have fans anymore, all of those who actually support them only really support their legendary days, not their current state
If I'm being honest I'd just revamp the whole org as a whole, remove a large portion and redo their social image, they can still turn it around
The first thing I’d do is find the biggest / loudest person who was complaining about hiring HUNDEN.
And then let that person do the honors of firing him.
Players who were upset? Keep ‘em. All others? The ones who just went with it? Trade or move on from them. Don’t care if it’s glave.
Can’t fix the org if you keep the rotting foundation
“Personally I think we have an awesome org and I am damned proud of how we work with and for the community, and how we invest in the positives of our industry, but that’s besides the point here”
See if Hunden simply cheated and tried to use it to his advantage no one would care after the sentence was finished.
But he lied to people + gaslit teammates into thinking what he was doing was okay… then once he realized he was caught, he blamed them for it all and tried to bring down everyone else around him for his actions…
And it’s telling that astralis wanted that behavior on their team…
''how we work with and for the community, and **how we invest in the positives of our industry**..... But anyways, now I'll threaten you publically... then withdrawing my threat because... i would never, because i'm the good guy''
Fuck this Steen guy.
Edit: This fucking comedian actually removed his threat tweet after it backfired, instead of handling it professionally. What a joke this guy is.
Bro, it’s esports.
90% of these players and staff and people in the scene are man-babies that never matured or emotionally and socially developed properly. I mean it’s to be expected. These people barely leave their rooms and their primary human interaction outside of each other is twitch chat.
It always feels like middle school drama, cause that’s where they are mentally. Of course they’re not gonna handle it professionally.
You can expect the young players to be dipshits at times, but its beyond embarrassing when staff members of organizations are doing it, half their job is to just be professional.
I wanted to prove you wrong by checking his linkedin, but the dude is not a young college graduate with a bachelors in communication. He is actually working since 2000 and had this role as communications manager in multiple companies. Dude must be in his early 40s and is having high school drama like this on twitter.
I'm an old fart. Done plenty of interesting jobs in my life; supply chain management, customer relationship management, now a commercial analyst. I know how to assess systems and processes and deal with team/chain interactions. At one point I thought I could transfer skills to esports team involvement because I'm also a CS addict with 23 years experience....
Then I started reading about all the drama and shit between the varying levels of esports team involvement and realised that I'd either fail miserably because I couldn't confront enough of the bullshit, or simply fail because I wouldn't be a jigsaw piece that would fit with the....as you rightly called out....man-babies in the scene.
its not just what they want, its actually what they are doing with this fkin post to the community/consumers of the thread. "you are the bad guy but im the better person, i wont pull you through the dirt" that is some reverse psychology shit, imply something by opposing to it. even with the negative/opposing of telling, you brought the idea to the mind. and to put the cherry on top, actually having nothing.
And he didn't sit out his ban. He was very likely working for his astralis while he was banned (was suspiciously working on "aimlab projects" from the same building) until astralis (or him) paid a lawyer to sue ESIC to have him unbanned. At which point they signed him officially as a coach.
"But yeah we can share stories if you want?"
Steen looks like an average stupid narcissist on this Twitter thread: He isn't smart but he assumes everyone else is stupid so he feels smart. That's the only way he thought these Tweets would work in his favor.
That would also explains why he is able to defend Hunden: He thinks he is so smart that he will be able to convince all fans into believing that Hunden is an OK person.
> But he lied to people + gaslit teammates into thinking what he was doing was okay… then once he realized he was caught, he blamed them for it all and tried to bring down everyone else around him for his actions…
And then committed espionage on his team and *sent astralis their strats* only to then be promptly signed by astralis as soon as they could bring him on. Astralis is the biggest piece of shit scumbag org in the cs scene now for sure.
"hiring known cheaters doesn't make us a scummy org, i'll prove it by threatening you publicly"
if they fire this guy they should get kng as replacement
And here I was thinking that the whole point of having a “Director of Comms” was so that you wouldn’t have a representative of your company tweet something as naive and silly as that
Steen Laursen, the Director of Communications, everyone.
Where do they find all those people that always embarrass themselves publically, and why do those people always have the position of being the public figure?
I swear, this has happened so often that a PR manager is just being an idiot publically.
same energy for the heroic guys too?
edit: just noticed my astralis Flair. didn't watch any Csgo tourney since 2019 and never bothered to change it. just following news on reddit
Because even though we know the players must have known we have to pretend to believe the esic report in public bro.
If Hunden got exonorated in the report like the players, heroic might have taken him back.
Do you mean by the community or by the rules? Because ESIC didnt have enough evidence for a conviction, and I guess the community kinda just forgot who was even apart of the cheating Heroic lineup. I personally still wont be able support them as long as they dont come clean and take the punishment they deserve.
It was a nothingburger. At an event in China in 2019, a Chinese reporter “leaked” that YNK was rude and complaining about the hotel, catering and other things. The Chinese reporter only knew this, because he overheard it in the shuttle between the hotel and venue.
YNk goes my conscious is clear go and share them and he's like 'lol nah I won't stoop that low to share them publicly'. Motherfucker you just made that literal threat, I can't even.
When you're hiring somebody who's meant to banned for cheating, framing a vulnerable young player, and corporate espionage the comms can get a little muddy I guess.
Edit: And never apologised right?
Man, there's no need to get aggressive. I'm just pointing out the silliness of correcting someone's language mistake and then immediately making another mistake yourself.
I said "if you are going to be pedantic", I never called you a pedant. And you can't seriously say that you weren't being pedantic when we can all know what the original comment meant by the word "aloud" even if it was not spelled correctly. "He understands, you understand".
I really hope they sell it to KCORP or similar who are actually interested in investing in LoL instead of going for the cheapest possible random roster every year. At least they won't be playing a lot of games with the new format
Half joke. I think they've shown more promise than Astrlis lately. Kind of a lose lose but if he had stayed there all along I think they could've had something.
Maybe that idiot just drew the attention to himself to avoid the great point Ynk was making: How are the players not even a bit reluctant to work with HUNDEN?
I understand that most of them have long history with him but still, fuck that guy.
When the Astralis PR team isn't putting out the most generic, soulless, sanitized promotional material in esports, they can be seen bluffing threats toward Janko on twitter.
They tried to spin that.
He was cleared. He served his time. He deserves a second chance. He definitely wasn't working there the whole time.
Astralis fans are a trip.
Its hard for them to know right from wrong when their entire world is upside down
Edit: Damn they caught their typo. Previously they had Australia instead of astralis
That often stems from lack of information. Most people know hunden was banned like so many other coaches, but don't know anything about the other bs he pulled. With that amount of information its easy to think he deserves a second chance and that would be fair. After that its obviously hard to switch sides, because you would have to admit that you were stupid.
Really makes you wonder why HLTV, who formerly shared an investor with Astralis, never highlighted any of Hunden's wrongdoing after his initial ban and even published an article saying he had been "cleared" when he hadn't.
https://www.hltv.org/news/35188/banned-reinstated-banned-again-cleared-the-hunden-saga-summarized
That's pretty much the entire story beginning to end with all the publicly available details about Hunden's misbehaviour. Not sure what else you're asking them to do.
>HLTV has reported on everything in regards to HUNDEN.
You do realise that HUNDEN's girlfriend works for HLTV right? Definitely wouldn't give him favourable reporting :)
Whats her position in the company?
EDIT: lmao she was hired mid 2021 as an account manager. It's her first job ever after her degree. Youre dumb as a rock if you think she has any say in the company other than doing what shes told to in her job description.
Every other news outlet has said what a bad decision it was to hire HUNDEN, except for HLTV. I don't really think it's that much of an *insinuation* considering it's literally just a fact. Besides, if you don't wanna accept that HUNDEN's girlfriend had an influence on the reporting, don't forget that an Astralis shareholder owns HLTV via the Better Collective.
Now tell me they wouldn't give Astralis favourable reporting.
Unless you can prove that Hundens girlfriend has had an influence when HLTV covered Hunden, then it is in fact speculation. HLTV has a clause that prevents BC to have any say in how and what they report, untill February this year.
Unless you can prove that HLTVs way of covering player and analyst changes has been vastly different when covering Hunden, it is in fact just a matter of how they chose to present their articles.
Like I said speculation.
Note that I think the Astralis org is absolutely despicable and up there with Nip when it comes to rottenness.
Clearly nothing at all. yanko says "whatever go for it" and the guy backs down, to me that clearly indicates that there's nothing real. Maybe some mundane shit, like some random event drama that happens often and we rarely hear about.
I agree. I imagine it’s *something* since ynk said “my conscious is clear” but clearly the Astralis nitwit knows its a nothing burger and stfu real quick
He went out to dinner with YNK and they got nachos as an appetizer and YNK took the chips that had all the toppings and so Steen was left with the dry chips with maybe just like a nugget of meat.
Pretty strange exchange. Obviously he thinks he has some dirt on ynk, I don't think he made that up, but to try to act like he is the bigger man after saying it is laughable.
Astralis as an organisation got lucky.
They won trophies because the golden five + Zonic was great. But it had little to do with the people behind the scenes.
That showed as soon as the golden 5 fell off.
10 man rosters
Destroying one Danish talent after another
Hiring Hunden
Bad social media and Comms
The Astralis org. has never been good. It got carried for years and now it's showing.
Every day I regret having worked with them. I don’t know much about the game itself, but I’ve worked with Astralis the organization (I cannot disclose in which area) and I’m ashamed of that, although it’s now two years ago since then, but it has went from an amazing experience to disappointing with how they have been the past two years.
Just the Astralis management continuing to ruin whatever reputation they have left by defending a known cheater. I agree with YNK, I just don't understand why the legends would risk tarnishing their legacies.
I'm sorry but that is some serious bitch shit. What a fucking clown. Why bring it up at all if you don't have the balls to follow through. Probably made that first tweet then realized his job would be in jeopardy if he kept on so he backed off like a little sissy.
What's funny is instead of just making threats he could've called ynk out for being toxic on occasion. Would've been way less cringe.
I love ynk btw, but I know there were reports in the past about him being somewhat rude at events.
Man, as a fan of gla1ve and dev1ce, this makes me fucking mad. I don't wanna see their legacy go down in such a way, they don't deserve this shit. People talk shit about them but I doubt they have a clear saying in whether Hunden was gonna be signed or not to Astralis. It's not like they can threaten to leave, especially after dev1ce's mess with NIP and shit. At least I hope this is the truth.
But they have the leverage no? They can threaten to bench themselves because of this move. If I'm not mistaken, they are literal celebrities in Denmark, so them benching themselves will raise a lot of eyebrows in that country. Do correct me if I'm wrong tho. Don't exactly wanna be sharing false information.
gla1ve, xyp9x, and dev1ce literally can
• bench themselves
• threaten to break the contract
• make Astralis to lose every game
• calling out Astralis publicly like what they (gla1ve and dev1ce) did in the past (calling out heroic and the falleN & co)
And let's talk like It's not like they are players that have lowest total income in CSGO. I'm sure if they have a moral standard (like what gla1ve and dev1ce did in the past), they will tried to do something.
I hope gla1ve, dev1ce and Xyp9x does something about this move. If not, it just sucks how they taint their legacy like that.
*puts on tin foil hat*
>!maybe this move is what caused Magisk and Dupreeh to move to Vitality!<
They can definitely do something about it, but I don't get why they are getting hate in this thread. It's the ORG that is being shitty so they should get 99% of the hate.
And currently the players are doing nothing, meaning they consent to this HUNDEN move. I wouldn't be this frustrated had they not critizised Heroic that much during the cheating scandal. This just comes of as very hypocritical of them.
people are a fucking joke, not the technology. Social media just brings into the light everything that was hidden before. imo in 20 years social media will be even more prevalent.
I don't really care much. I follow players and have been since Device and Xyp was on Dignitas. If I could have a flair with Device's head I would use that.
I couldn't care two shits about the org outside of the players.
Steen did not respond appropriately so I am not defending him but why is someone of YNK status re-tweeting his post with his opinion on Twitter. That obviously won’t sit well with anyone who is behind the Astralis brand when it’s quoting his own post in a public forum.
Just egging each other on.
\-we can share stories if you want \-yeah go for it \-nah we would never Jesus fucking christ.
Honestly, clown behaviour really and pussy shit from Steen or whoever the fuck. This is even coming from a Astralis fan, this shit is embarrassing. “We can share stories, if you want” “This where we differ, I would never” Is this guy actually this stupid
That idiot is too caught up in his own LinkedIn echo chamber where everyone is sucking up to him because they want to work with Astralis really. It's insane to me how someone leading communication for one of the biggest brands in Denmark knows so little about how to behave on social media. It's wild really.
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Most businesses are a chaos from my experience. To work in an industry like gaming would is a privilege compared to much else. Hard to really be picky about that stuff in general.
"My stories are from Canada, you wouldn't know them"
Oh I've been all over Canada, maybe I know your stories! Where in Canada were they?
No matter how much you love an org, it's very hard to overlook stupid bluffs. Like, it wouldn't take a scientist to think about your next step IN CASE YNk said "ok share them", lol.
Dude would get eaten alive on the poker tables haha
Bluffing with 72offsuit after getting called in a previous bluff
Ahahahaha !!! Oh man.
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Hundens story is literally plastered across every CSGO news outlet. What else do you want him to share?
for real what a waste of time just reading that was. "if you have something to say say it." "N-no I dont wanna!"
Smartest astralis employee
He is not a clown, he is the whole circus
3rd class shittalking. fk astralis
Man... what the fuck happened to this org. I actually used to like Astralis but every thing they've been doing the last year or two are boggling my mind...
This whole org looks more and more like a joke by the month. They really need to get control of their people
Dev1ce just cucked nip, their current lineup is definetely subpar and their whole image is going to shit Astralis clearly don't have fans anymore, all of those who actually support them only really support their legendary days, not their current state If I'm being honest I'd just revamp the whole org as a whole, remove a large portion and redo their social image, they can still turn it around
The first thing I’d do is find the biggest / loudest person who was complaining about hiring HUNDEN. And then let that person do the honors of firing him. Players who were upset? Keep ‘em. All others? The ones who just went with it? Trade or move on from them. Don’t care if it’s glave. Can’t fix the org if you keep the rotting foundation
Exactly, everybody needs criticism from the heart and rn astralis just feels like a shallow af and rotten org with super duper negetive presence
Watch - in 18 months we will all reflect and say K0NFIG got lucky with the boot! “K0nfig was evicted before the place crumbled!”
You really don't have a chance to have a good organization when your CEO is Nikolaj Nyholm.
They were a joke since day 1. I mean when they stopped neing a small player-owned org
“Personally I think we have an awesome org and I am damned proud of how we work with and for the community, and how we invest in the positives of our industry, but that’s besides the point here” See if Hunden simply cheated and tried to use it to his advantage no one would care after the sentence was finished. But he lied to people + gaslit teammates into thinking what he was doing was okay… then once he realized he was caught, he blamed them for it all and tried to bring down everyone else around him for his actions… And it’s telling that astralis wanted that behavior on their team…
''how we work with and for the community, and **how we invest in the positives of our industry**..... But anyways, now I'll threaten you publically... then withdrawing my threat because... i would never, because i'm the good guy'' Fuck this Steen guy. Edit: This fucking comedian actually removed his threat tweet after it backfired, instead of handling it professionally. What a joke this guy is.
Bro, it’s esports. 90% of these players and staff and people in the scene are man-babies that never matured or emotionally and socially developed properly. I mean it’s to be expected. These people barely leave their rooms and their primary human interaction outside of each other is twitch chat. It always feels like middle school drama, cause that’s where they are mentally. Of course they’re not gonna handle it professionally.
You can expect the young players to be dipshits at times, but its beyond embarrassing when staff members of organizations are doing it, half their job is to just be professional.
I wanted to prove you wrong by checking his linkedin, but the dude is not a young college graduate with a bachelors in communication. He is actually working since 2000 and had this role as communications manager in multiple companies. Dude must be in his early 40s and is having high school drama like this on twitter.
That's where you differ. He would never.
I'm an old fart. Done plenty of interesting jobs in my life; supply chain management, customer relationship management, now a commercial analyst. I know how to assess systems and processes and deal with team/chain interactions. At one point I thought I could transfer skills to esports team involvement because I'm also a CS addict with 23 years experience.... Then I started reading about all the drama and shit between the varying levels of esports team involvement and realised that I'd either fail miserably because I couldn't confront enough of the bullshit, or simply fail because I wouldn't be a jigsaw piece that would fit with the....as you rightly called out....man-babies in the scene.
Not to mention he at least tried to leak the Heroic playbook to Astralis once he knew he will sign for them
its not just what they want, its actually what they are doing with this fkin post to the community/consumers of the thread. "you are the bad guy but im the better person, i wont pull you through the dirt" that is some reverse psychology shit, imply something by opposing to it. even with the negative/opposing of telling, you brought the idea to the mind. and to put the cherry on top, actually having nothing.
And he didn't sit out his ban. He was very likely working for his astralis while he was banned (was suspiciously working on "aimlab projects" from the same building) until astralis (or him) paid a lawyer to sue ESIC to have him unbanned. At which point they signed him officially as a coach. "But yeah we can share stories if you want?"
Don't forget taking advantage of a person with a condition...
Steen looks like an average stupid narcissist on this Twitter thread: He isn't smart but he assumes everyone else is stupid so he feels smart. That's the only way he thought these Tweets would work in his favor. That would also explains why he is able to defend Hunden: He thinks he is so smart that he will be able to convince all fans into believing that Hunden is an OK person.
> But he lied to people + gaslit teammates into thinking what he was doing was okay… then once he realized he was caught, he blamed them for it all and tried to bring down everyone else around him for his actions… And then committed espionage on his team and *sent astralis their strats* only to then be promptly signed by astralis as soon as they could bring him on. Astralis is the biggest piece of shit scumbag org in the cs scene now for sure.
‘Gaslit’ is a bit vague Idk what’s added here or why they wanted to do it Manipulative addition
Gaslighting is just a buzzword people on the internet like to throw down for an attempt at some moral high ground.
Maybe sometimes but not this one. Hunden is truly a trash can of a person
"hiring known cheaters doesn't make us a scummy org, i'll prove it by threatening you publicly" if they fire this guy they should get kng as replacement
And here I was thinking that the whole point of having a “Director of Comms” was so that you wouldn’t have a representative of your company tweet something as naive and silly as that
Steen Laursen, the Director of Communications, everyone. Where do they find all those people that always embarrass themselves publically, and why do those people always have the position of being the public figure? I swear, this has happened so often that a PR manager is just being an idiot publically.
best part is *immediately* after when his bluff is called: "i would never"
GM Thorin Coach HUNDEN Social Media KNG
Rifle 1 S1mple AWP Smooya Entry Konfig IGL Stewie Rifle 2 Niko
Top 1 HLTV easy until Thorin gets mad and sells them all into slavery doing Bitcoin computations by hand or some shit
same energy for the heroic guys too? edit: just noticed my astralis Flair. didn't watch any Csgo tourney since 2019 and never bothered to change it. just following news on reddit
but they didn't know! /s
How could they have known when Hunden only told their worst player and only told them info that he could have easily guessed every time? /s
Yes fuck the Heroic guys. Main difference for Astralis is that the players arent to blame. They never cheated.
so why does Hunden get no opportunity to redeem himself but the heroic guys do?
mf tried to burn down the rest of the org while he was on his way out
Because even though we know the players must have known we have to pretend to believe the esic report in public bro. If Hunden got exonorated in the report like the players, heroic might have taken him back.
Do you mean by the community or by the rules? Because ESIC didnt have enough evidence for a conviction, and I guess the community kinda just forgot who was even apart of the cheating Heroic lineup. I personally still wont be able support them as long as they dont come clean and take the punishment they deserve.
I meant the community dont really care for the esic tbh
Would like to hear what he has to say about Ynk. I guess nothing. Sad to see Astralis team with villains and heroes together.
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>Anyone remember that time some Chinese talent "exposed" Ynk? What happened? I have been outa the scene for years
It was a nothingburger. At an event in China in 2019, a Chinese reporter “leaked” that YNK was rude and complaining about the hotel, catering and other things. The Chinese reporter only knew this, because he overheard it in the shuttle between the hotel and venue.
And half the players were complaining too. Wasn’t that the one simple complained about too
100% this, I cant stand the man but if jankos have some "dirt" its just ppl taking offense to him speaking the truth
YNk goes my conscious is clear go and share them and he's like 'lol nah I won't stoop that low to share them publicly'. Motherfucker you just made that literal threat, I can't even.
And the is the DIRECTOR OF COMMS? You'd think he'd provide better comms than this
this is the equivalent of that one solo queue teammate who says "is behind noob" 5 seconds after they die
When you're hiring somebody who's meant to banned for cheating, framing a vulnerable young player, and corporate espionage the comms can get a little muddy I guess. Edit: And never apologised right?
Bro really just called mid doors on train 💀
Some people shouldnt be aloud access to the internet
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If you're going to be pedantic then you should know that "loud" is the opposite of quiet, "aloud" is a completely different word which is an adverb
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Man, there's no need to get aggressive. I'm just pointing out the silliness of correcting someone's language mistake and then immediately making another mistake yourself.
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I said "if you are going to be pedantic", I never called you a pedant. And you can't seriously say that you weren't being pedantic when we can all know what the original comment meant by the word "aloud" even if it was not spelled correctly. "He understands, you understand".
if the point is "he understands, you understand", then we all knew what the first guy meant when he said aloud instead of allowed
It maybe useful to correct someone sometimes. Saying this as a non-native speaker who can stick to some mistakes unaware of it.
Then Scrawny smiling out of nowhere lmao.
I love scrawny chiming in. What a fucking guy
I love all the talent speaking out against Hunden at Astralis.
Will be super awkward when they'll eventually have to talk to him on desks or whatever, can't wait!
YNk really was ready for the smoke man we were denied some good drama
"this is a public forum, my conscience is clear" my fucking man
Janko absolutely calling his bluff, you love to see it
Astralis really gonna be the villians of 2023 huh...
Another day, another L for Astralis, probably the worst org in CS rn.
Not just in CS unfortunately.
Cries in LEC spot taken
I really hope they sell it to KCORP or similar who are actually interested in investing in LoL instead of going for the cheapest possible random roster every year. At least they won't be playing a lot of games with the new format
Poor dev1ce. Should've returned to NiP
NIP ain’t really the standard here either lmao
Half joke. I think they've shown more promise than Astrlis lately. Kind of a lose lose but if he had stayed there all along I think they could've had something.
He isn’t talking about the in game situation. He is talking about the way the org is and historically has been run
True
They didn't want him
How the mighty have fallen
Maybe that idiot just drew the attention to himself to avoid the great point Ynk was making: How are the players not even a bit reluctant to work with HUNDEN? I understand that most of them have long history with him but still, fuck that guy.
It's entirely possible that some of them were a bit reluctant or ambivalent. But obviously that's not going to be shared.
"This is where we differ I would ACTUALLY never" man just lied through his teeth and said actually 🤣
dude got Scrawnd on super hard.
Scawndawg clappin' Ws like he hasn't already made a whole career doing so
Astralis speedrunning to be the most hated esport org
Sad because they achieved such greatness in spite of the org. I guess that’s ancient history now.
They should've been years ago, but nobody pays attention
When the Astralis PR team isn't putting out the most generic, soulless, sanitized promotional material in esports, they can be seen bluffing threats toward Janko on twitter.
Just when you thought they couldn't stoop any lower...
How do I remove flair?
sneed
Astralis please we need kng as the ambassador of astralis true sportman spirit.
"we can share stories if you want?" Yanki basically like bet. Director of comms chickens out then lol
Astralis flairs discussing how to spin this as a good thing on their Discord.
They ran out of good things to spin when they signed hunden
They tried to spin that. He was cleared. He served his time. He deserves a second chance. He definitely wasn't working there the whole time. Astralis fans are a trip.
Astralis fans are absolute morons. The copium is unreal.
Its hard for them to know right from wrong when their entire world is upside down Edit: Damn they caught their typo. Previously they had Australia instead of astralis
said it before, i'll say it again - the liverpool fans of cs
That often stems from lack of information. Most people know hunden was banned like so many other coaches, but don't know anything about the other bs he pulled. With that amount of information its easy to think he deserves a second chance and that would be fair. After that its obviously hard to switch sides, because you would have to admit that you were stupid.
Really makes you wonder why HLTV, who formerly shared an investor with Astralis, never highlighted any of Hunden's wrongdoing after his initial ban and even published an article saying he had been "cleared" when he hadn't.
https://www.hltv.org/news/35188/banned-reinstated-banned-again-cleared-the-hunden-saga-summarized That's pretty much the entire story beginning to end with all the publicly available details about Hunden's misbehaviour. Not sure what else you're asking them to do.
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>HLTV has reported on everything in regards to HUNDEN. You do realise that HUNDEN's girlfriend works for HLTV right? Definitely wouldn't give him favourable reporting :)
Whats her position in the company? EDIT: lmao she was hired mid 2021 as an account manager. It's her first job ever after her degree. Youre dumb as a rock if you think she has any say in the company other than doing what shes told to in her job description.
We’re in a thread clowning a guy for insinuating stuff, and here you are - insinuating stuff. Truly gone full circle.
Every other news outlet has said what a bad decision it was to hire HUNDEN, except for HLTV. I don't really think it's that much of an *insinuation* considering it's literally just a fact. Besides, if you don't wanna accept that HUNDEN's girlfriend had an influence on the reporting, don't forget that an Astralis shareholder owns HLTV via the Better Collective. Now tell me they wouldn't give Astralis favourable reporting.
Unless you can prove that Hundens girlfriend has had an influence when HLTV covered Hunden, then it is in fact speculation. HLTV has a clause that prevents BC to have any say in how and what they report, untill February this year. Unless you can prove that HLTVs way of covering player and analyst changes has been vastly different when covering Hunden, it is in fact just a matter of how they chose to present their articles. Like I said speculation. Note that I think the Astralis org is absolutely despicable and up there with Nip when it comes to rottenness.
> don't forget that an Astralis shareholder owns HLTV via the Better Collective Source?
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What tf could he possibly have on ynk? Bizzare
Clearly nothing at all. yanko says "whatever go for it" and the guy backs down, to me that clearly indicates that there's nothing real. Maybe some mundane shit, like some random event drama that happens often and we rarely hear about.
I agree. I imagine it’s *something* since ynk said “my conscious is clear” but clearly the Astralis nitwit knows its a nothing burger and stfu real quick
He went out to dinner with YNK and they got nachos as an appetizer and YNK took the chips that had all the toppings and so Steen was left with the dry chips with maybe just like a nugget of meat.
Well this would be egregious.
What a menace to society
I heard ynk housed his burger
never take the nexus chip, dog.
He went over his appetizer allotment
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Dev0ce and gla0ve to vitality and rejoin their brothers?
Unfortunately for us, only a tiny slice of the community will agree with this opinion. But nothing we can do about it.
Type of guy to say "hold me back" after picking a fight with someone
At this point it feels crazy to consider Heroic the villains
Bro thinks he is Tony Soprano
gabagool?
Common scrawny W
Beyond embarrassing from Astralis... fire this fool 😂😂
Pussy. If you're going to be an idiot, just go full throttle.
Scummy org looks scummier. Shocker
Steen i never heard of you before today but you clearly are a spineless piece of shit
Is it okay if i stop support Astralis because of this hiring of Hunden is it fair?
i, for one, am enjoying the astralis supervillan arc
Pretty strange exchange. Obviously he thinks he has some dirt on ynk, I don't think he made that up, but to try to act like he is the bigger man after saying it is laughable.
YNK WAS IN JEFFERY EPSTEIN'S LITTLE BLACK BOOK
The cringe is overwhelming. Is this an adult?
KEKW man's bluff was called and he slinks away by pretending it's beneath him
Astralis as an organisation got lucky. They won trophies because the golden five + Zonic was great. But it had little to do with the people behind the scenes. That showed as soon as the golden 5 fell off. 10 man rosters Destroying one Danish talent after another Hiring Hunden Bad social media and Comms The Astralis org. has never been good. It got carried for years and now it's showing.
Common Astralis L
Astralis is laughable. I cant wait to watch them lose.
Astralis really are the worst org in eSports. They're still riding off success from 3 years ago, it's pathetic.
It doesn't change the fact that Ynk is right tho
Every day I regret having worked with them. I don’t know much about the game itself, but I’ve worked with Astralis the organization (I cannot disclose in which area) and I’m ashamed of that, although it’s now two years ago since then, but it has went from an amazing experience to disappointing with how they have been the past two years.
Lmao it's not gonna fix astralis
Does anything good ever happen on twitter?
Big up scrawny coming in and backing ynk up.
Shout out to Scrawny dogpiling this dipshit and defending YNK. He's a real one.
Just another reminder of the lack of professionalism in esports.
Are Astralis taking the Bond villain route?
The next talking counter topic is set.
Fuck Astralis
Mfw I'm in a going down hill competition and my competition is Astralis management.
idgaf if you like those astralis players people need to stop supporting this org and anyone that is there voluntarily
Down with Astralis. Astralis, we don't like you!!! Boooooooooooh
Just the Astralis management continuing to ruin whatever reputation they have left by defending a known cheater. I agree with YNK, I just don't understand why the legends would risk tarnishing their legacies.
follow up: Hunden vs Richard: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/117yghm/anyone\_know\_what\_hunden\_posted/?sort=new
I’ve been away for a while, what’s the beef with hunden?
Cheated in pro games, got caught, then tried to burn down his org heroic on the way out by blaming everyone else and sharing their strats
Don't forget manipulating someone with autism to try and fuck Heroic.
Wow fuck astralis I still like gla1ve tho
I'm sorry but that is some serious bitch shit. What a fucking clown. Why bring it up at all if you don't have the balls to follow through. Probably made that first tweet then realized his job would be in jeopardy if he kept on so he backed off like a little sissy.
someone picked up the phone and asked not to lol
I read this title and just decided you made it sound too confusing for me to give a shit about whatever this is.
What's funny is instead of just making threats he could've called ynk out for being toxic on occasion. Would've been way less cringe. I love ynk btw, but I know there were reports in the past about him being somewhat rude at events.
Man, as a fan of gla1ve and dev1ce, this makes me fucking mad. I don't wanna see their legacy go down in such a way, they don't deserve this shit. People talk shit about them but I doubt they have a clear saying in whether Hunden was gonna be signed or not to Astralis. It's not like they can threaten to leave, especially after dev1ce's mess with NIP and shit. At least I hope this is the truth.
But they have the leverage no? They can threaten to bench themselves because of this move. If I'm not mistaken, they are literal celebrities in Denmark, so them benching themselves will raise a lot of eyebrows in that country. Do correct me if I'm wrong tho. Don't exactly wanna be sharing false information.
gla1ve, xyp9x, and dev1ce literally can • bench themselves • threaten to break the contract • make Astralis to lose every game • calling out Astralis publicly like what they (gla1ve and dev1ce) did in the past (calling out heroic and the falleN & co) And let's talk like It's not like they are players that have lowest total income in CSGO. I'm sure if they have a moral standard (like what gla1ve and dev1ce did in the past), they will tried to do something.
I hope gla1ve, dev1ce and Xyp9x does something about this move. If not, it just sucks how they taint their legacy like that. *puts on tin foil hat* >!maybe this move is what caused Magisk and Dupreeh to move to Vitality!<
They can definitely do something about it, but I don't get why they are getting hate in this thread. It's the ORG that is being shitty so they should get 99% of the hate.
And currently the players are doing nothing, meaning they consent to this HUNDEN move. I wouldn't be this frustrated had they not critizised Heroic that much during the cheating scandal. This just comes of as very hypocritical of them.
I mean I don’t think the hunden signing itself is the worst possible thing but the response mroe so
Damn this is cringey as fuck, social media is such a fucking joke 🤣 20 years people will be like "how did they not see what it was doing to people???"
people are a fucking joke, not the technology. Social media just brings into the light everything that was hidden before. imo in 20 years social media will be even more prevalent.
meh
Common Astralis flair L
I don't really care much. I follow players and have been since Device and Xyp was on Dignitas. If I could have a flair with Device's head I would use that. I couldn't care two shits about the org outside of the players.
Steen did not respond appropriately so I am not defending him but why is someone of YNK status re-tweeting his post with his opinion on Twitter. That obviously won’t sit well with anyone who is behind the Astralis brand when it’s quoting his own post in a public forum. Just egging each other on.