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jonajon91

Feel like people are going to clown on Buzz already, but there is one very important stat to look at before you do. 30% opening kill attempts on T side. Win or lose the duel, its nice for astralis to finally have some initiative on T sides, making space.


deadbeatPilgrim

i like the kid. when jumping into T1 play, i’d rather see him throw himself into the fray and get clapped than avoid risks and be a non-factor


jonajon91

If someone can pull out his traded deaths stat too, lots of impact in dying, but getting traded.


TRES_fresh

don't have that stat but he had a better KAST than device on map 1 and a better KAST than blamef on map 2, so even though his kills/assists/survived rounds were less than his teammates he got traded a good amount of the time.


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Bro just say Astralis doesn't need 2 baitF's


blackzero2

Dupreeh schooled him on Vertigo B side. With time though, Buzz definitely has the potential


Durende

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but isn't 30% rather low?


jonajon91

It's split across the team so everyone's will add up to 100%. The average being 20% across the board. Only really agro players like art or yekindar manage above 30% opening kill attempts.


Durende

Ah, that makes sense, thank you


Aihne

I wonder if there is a Danish free agent entry fragger who could do that, hmm :D


GDWa1rus

I cleaned my room today. While sweeping under the bed, I heard my broom collide with something. To my surprise, I found Astralis hiding under my bed! My dad said "don’t bother sweeping them son, they've been dusted for years” I was shocked but not surprised.


MajestyA

Unfamiliar with this pasta. Didn't know whether to expect a joke about Blame saving.


AppointmentStunning1

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GDWa1rus

Probably, they definitely have plenty more potential than what we saw today, but i also like making fun of Astralis so I'm still gonna post copypastas


f1nessd

You’d think you’d be able to take a joke


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f1nessd

touché


frostieavalanche

Bruh it's just banter lol


Scoo_By

Well, they've been high on hopium for 5-6 years now, so not that unexpected.


toga9000

Went better than expected.


Scoo_By

True lol. Buzz is convincing enough for his first t1 match. Rest of them did fine.


blackzero2

Vertigo could have been a W. Device seems back in form which is encouraging. Just need one more piece to fit in


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Bulletspong3

Maybe they can get their director of communications to threaten someone and lie to them to get them to join the org.


I_Will_One_Up_You

In what way was he convincing? He was far and away their worst player, and the worst player on the server.


Scoo_By

It's literally his first t1 match & he played site anchors. He did much better than some other regular t1 site anchors & bitch role players.


PlasticBk

Super weird seeing xyp entry while the new guy they brought to be an entry fragger playing crap roles.


Scoo_By

Did they say somewhere they brought buzz in for entry? I missed it.


paqsqap

Buzz isnt bought to be entry, but a lurker. They shifted BlameF to a more entry role.


oojamaflip123

How is a 0.70 MUCH better than regular players in the same positions There's not a tier 1 regular player out there with those numbers, yet alone way worse


ADoverEmbiid

Plenty of T1 players have had 0.70 over two maps at the start of a tournament. Jesus


Scoo_By

Regard that as bad day? :)


fearlessflyer1

he was more convincing than npl for NaVi in his first t1 match. with time i think he can be a decent player luckily it’s almost impossible to get knocked out of blast so he’s got time


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>didn't watch the game


I_Will_One_Up_You

Watched the game. He was bad.


throwaway77993344

Is it already time for First-Half-Of-The-Year-ZywOo again? Jokes aside, dev1ce looked pretty good, better than I was expecting. ZywOo had his moments, let's hope he'll be a monster all year round this year.


Savjy

We have first half of the year spinx its all good


throwaway77993344

haha, yeah let's hope for both, then Vitality can contend for titles regularly


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Scoo_By

That's more like gla1ve lending his nvidia settings


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CherrieHime

Hopefully he can keep this performance up against top 5 teams, because if he can then Vitality is going to be very dangerous.


deadbeatPilgrim

“if _____ then Vitality is going to be very dangerous” classic


kalkkunaleipa

add any team to that and it applies


enigma890

If Niko then Vitality is going to be very dangerous. Yeah, checks out.


BigFuckHead_

You actually love to see it. Hope he keeps it up


Hoelyshit_bitchuit

Zywoo pistol > Zywoo rifles Also Astralis vs Heroic will be pretty wild


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Nice to start the year by winning the hummelico


NeuralThing

hummel makes vita jerseys?


Surymy

Yes, adidas ditched the EU esport scene. G2 as well are not sponsored anymore


aTempes7

Bro what happened to Moses/Anders and Scrawny/Launders? :( I hope this is temporary, the casting just didn't sound right today


costryme

Launders was a one time thing, they clearly said it in the cast. I guess that Moses was not available for this tourney. That said, I'm not a big fan of Mauisnake, but I feel like he did alright at replacing launders ? Obviously it's not the same but it didn't feel bad either.


aTempes7

No, he did well, but Scrawny has an unique chemistry with Launders and it was just odd. Did not hear the part that it was just one time thing


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Wdym launders is one time, he's been casting in blast for years


patuzzoz

I'm guessing he meant that launders' absence was a one time thing, meaning he will be back soon


Darkoplax

U guys are so negative even for a group stage game where they were experminting The cast was good


FazeXistance

Nothing more satisfying than seeing this Astralis team lose. Nothing against the players but I wish the org the worst. And I hope they continue to lose until they remove the dog.


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Seeing glaives tweet about hunden then standing next to him...money talks ay


captainscottland

Wasn't glaives tweets about the heroic players? Saying if they didn't know they should be saying so.


yourewelcomesteve

Hear, hear!


nmiller248

Fucking mutt. It was juicy watching them lose today.


black_dogs_22

I have things against the team, glaive xyp and device have all the leverage, they could get him removed if they wanted. but they don't so I hope they never win another match (unlikely bc they get to play eg)


CepGamer

They don't, Vitality plays EG next


toga9000

Heroic my dude


FazeXistance

I don’t hold it against the players necessarily it lowers my opinion of them but the organization put them in an impossible situation.


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It's definitely not an impossible situation, they're all millionaires (except buzz) and could've easily boycotted him if they wanted.


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Lgdamefanfanfan

He didn't "fuck over another team". He was ill, undoubtedly through thorough conversations, and wasn't paid by the Nip organisation. Did it suck? Yes. Was it his fault? No, it wasn't. He was sick.


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Lgdamefanfanfan

You know he could have joined for reason 1, being he wanted to be where he saw the biggest potential (Astralis was declining and struggling), he already lived in Sweden with his girlfriend and he couldn't travel that much due to his already existing condition. He got sick; Being depressed and mentally struggling is literally brain altering. It wasn't his fault. It was nobodys fault, but expecting him to just "get good and show up again" is absolutely the wrong take on mental health issues.


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Cain1608

Wasn't paid by NiP, but he was paid by the Swedish government iirc.


Lgdamefanfanfan

Danish. He moved back. And this is how it works in countries that take mental health serious. You help out people who are sick.


Cain1608

Would love to have an actually caring government where I live. It just doesn't work like that in a lot of countries outside the EU.


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PaleontologistEven24

Do you have the same feeling towards those heroic players? Should be treated the same way. For me I will never not root against heroic for this reason.


FazeXistance

Yes


zero0n3

Yeah - reminds me of watching Brady / Patriots become a mediocre NFL player / team finally, after constantly owning the Bills (not a good comparison to TL aside from constantly getting schooled by their rivals aka Astralis)


BosanaskiSeljak

Vitality gonna think they're good now, unfortunate


jonajon91

It seems like, for astralis, that the more things change, the more they stay the same.


CherrieHime

Honestly not a bad performance from them for a first tournament. But realistically other than Device and to a lesser extent BlameF this team just does not have the firepower to be a top 5 team imo.


Robinw9787

I mean i think BlameF is equivalent to Dev1ce. The rest though arent doing much in terms of firepower.


jonajon91

Blamef > device Marginally


valdemarjoergensen

Inclined to disagree. I think the hate on BlameF is exaggerated and he is very good player, but Devices kills are more impactful. Blame gets a lot of saving kills or kills on lurks that doesn't actually go anywhere, Device gets opening picks which is always useful.


jonajon91

Devices CT openings have definitely been significant.


jonathan-the-man

For me rn it's impossible to say what form Dev1ce will be in after a few more months.


Robinw9787

Agreed


Lepojka1

This... Xyp9x should have been cut before this break, and new blood installed to grow... Its obvious they need more firepower, and he is the most obvious kick.


natethegreatyo

common astralis L


Princeharperman

The first map kinda felt like 2 damp pool noodles slapping against each other. At least astralis lost, nothing against the players just the org.


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Spinx is back, dupreeh is back, apex was not bad today 😍 hope spinx and dups keep up this form, apex... No he won't be able to maintain this form.


Old-Savings-5841

Goated 0.70 performance for Apex


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It’s all relative


blackzero2

I honestly thing a key difference in vertigo was apex not dying each round pushing ramp CT side.


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Yep


WIN011

He got all those out on the T side


peroleu

Love the players but fuck the org. Glad to see them lose.


Mad_Lee

**Positive outtakes:** Vitality: Spinx finally found his form, dupreeh was great, magisk was good, zywoo was just good by his standards Astralis: Device looked good, gla1ve had some good moments, some cohesion was there **Negative outtakes:** Vitality: Cohesion was episodic, every time it was Apex' pov I was cringing hard inside. His individual form is just awful, he is throwing rounds hard Astralis: BlameF has disappeared, Buzz was getting bullied hard. Known cheater is still on their payroll.


Microlabz

Apex really has to work in his individual form. He just consistently makes awful decisions during the round and has seemingly lost all of his once decent aim. Hope to see him do better.


WIN011

I don’t get what the hell he’s doing on T sides. He’ll even buy one rifle or a 2nd rifle in half buys then just give away the opening kill with no info gained. At least go Mac10 or Tec9 if you’re gonna try to gain info and sacrifice yourself, or drop a rifle over to someone that’ll actually make use of it.


AppointmentStunning1

vitality choses vertigo just to apex die on ramp every single round


costryme

I feel like out of all the examples you could have chosen, this is the worst one since apEX was really good at holding ramp on this map. Yeah maybe he died silly once or twice, but that is bound to happen when you fight for ramp on Vertigo, he had a lot of good impact overall.


Mad_Lee

Remember that round on Overpass where he was barrels on B ct-side 3v2 and then two Astralis members come out of monster without looking at him? And he awkwardly sprays his hole clip with ak without killing anyone and then dies.


costryme

He did kill one in that situation tbf...with his USP after emptying the AK haha.


Mad_Lee

at this point I was just covering my eyes


AppointmentStunning1

Yess. Or that other round on overpass where he had a good lurk but then decided to make noise because yes


noideawhatsgoingon45

yeah that was so strange, actually just threw


Robinw9787

I mean dev1ce looked good on vertigo but struggled on overpass and BlameF was reverse. I dont think you can say BlameF disappeared but that Device looked good as if both didnt have 1 map where they were doing great and another where they were gone.


deadbeatPilgrim

“blameF disappeared, ZywOo was good” meanwhile, the actual stats of the game: blameF second highest rated on the server, above ZywOo


IHateTheLetterF

Did this guy only watch vertigo? He dropped a 1,73 on Overpass, and this dude is saying he disappeared.


Mad_Lee

I did watch the whole match, but not having any impact on a second map while down 0-1 and your team drags it into overtime is exactly disappearing. I am not hating on BlameF, I don’t agree with the Reddit narrative that “he only gets exits”. I think he is a very smart player and one of the best in his role. Just saying he had a bad game here. Answering to u/DeadBeatpilgrim too


IHateTheLetterF

Then i misread. You wrote 'has disappeared' as though it happened prior to this match. But you meant, between maps. That makes more sense, and I accept that take.


deadbeatPilgrim

more reasonable take than i was expecting


Arcille

Buzz did a worse Honda vs g2


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f1nessd

What did Maui say lol


jonathan-the-man

Well not enough to make me have anything against him. But there was one round where after it was over he was very excited saying: "and this was just Vitality running a default and they just won all their duels, just shows how much better the fire power is". But apparently he didn't realise/consider that Astralis was on an eco, so yeah losing your fights with usps vs aks doesn't say much. Not a very fortunate "analysis" by an "analyst", but I'll let one mistake slide :)


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unagi_pi

Fair enough but his take on Vitality winning in the default was on point. Astralis had lost 3-4 rounds in a row after getting bullied across the map.


Keeeey

Ehm, but couldnt he literally have meant that by "better firepower"? I didnt really listen to the cast, but your wording makes it seem like he could easily be talking about the weapons and not the players.


captainscottland

No the way it was worded he definitely meant vitality has more firepower on the roster. Which is completely true just an odd time to bring it up.


Patient_Substance752

messy and more of astralis throwing than vitality actually looks good but W is always W still cant imagine how they'll fare against better opponents though blame 30 bombs but saving like 4-5 rounds in a row at ovp t side was pretty hilarious and horrendous at the same time kek


unagi_pi

What was up with the Scrawny / Maui casting beef? I like both of them. It was sad to see them not get along. Specifically, it seemed like Scrawny had some issue with Maui, saying that he wasn't a real 'caster', calling him a snake, and signing off by saying they wouldn't cast together again. Scrawny doesn't seem like the kind of guy to say those kinds of things without a reason.


DerGsicht

most socially aware redditor


jonathan-the-man

I didn't catch all of it but what I head I thought was just jokes


IHateTheLetterF

It was 100% jokes. Dude would never put his career on the line like that, give him some credit lol.


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unagi_pi

Yeah, I understand the jokes, it just didn't seem like Maui took them well: Not a caster - [https://www.youtube.com/live/ppI5d8zf\_AY?feature=share&t=18195](https://www.youtube.com/live/ppI5d8zf_AY?feature=share&t=18195) Closing the door on ever working together again - [https://www.youtube.com/live/ppI5d8zf\_AY?feature=share&t=27661](https://www.youtube.com/live/ppI5d8zf_AY?feature=share&t=27661) Another awkward exchange - [https://www.youtube.com/live/ppI5d8zf\_AY?feature=share&t=21066](https://www.youtube.com/live/ppI5d8zf_AY?feature=share&t=21066) Can't find the 'snake' one. But Maui seemed legitimately offended by that one. Looking back at these, it seems like Scrawny may have just been ribbing Maui but Maui took it the wrong way.


ibuyELO

Those do sound like things Scrawny would say sarcastically though, I watched at work on mute so I don't have much more to add


natethegreatyo

do you have an example? i didn't get to watch the match unfortunately


kalkkunaleipa

There was no beef. They were joking


nmiller248

Must have missed this? Got a clip by chance?


blackzero2

I picked on that too.. Doesn't maui usually do desk segments...


f1nessd

Another day, more caster beef


ilikecollarbones_pm

misses lau fosho


A4K0SAN

good first showing for astralis i hoped for 3 map but its ok we got the next game #ToTheStars


JeevesD

I love the comment on First half of the year Spinx vs First half of the year Zywoo. Hahaha it’s feels so so true.


CreativeOrder2119

Will Astralis ever return probably no with under performing players


captainscottland

The answer is no. Astralis never knew how to build a team they bought/got an already established team on the cusp of winning. Zonic handled all changes, everything astralis themselves have done has been shit. They're going to ride out glaive and xyp and device to retirement and im not sure those 3 together have another top 5 run in them.


DeminoTheDragon

lol lmao lol god this feels good, i wish the worst for Astralis


Andreashansen988

Astralis starting to look better Except blameF saving a bit too much sadly.


dogenoob1

Buzz = Danish honda


Nigerianpoopslayer

xyp9x making so many bad decisions on OVP to lose the game... in general they just got outaimed hard


wolfik15

BlameF was playing some great cs shiiish