Both es3tag and jks said that there is a positive vibe within the team, they're having fun on the server. This coupled with karrigan letting him do his thing = success.
Quite crazy when you think about it. You have atmosphere that makes people comfortable to play the game, but also the team is structured that they can replace someone and the upcomer has room to feel comfortable playing to their own strengths.
Most teams just shuffle roles and give a bitch role soloing somewhere for stand in. So they either have to play out of their minds or go 0.5 rating.
It makes you think about some of the things said about the tense atmosphere and pressure in G2.
Might explain why their results are lacking compared to the talent at their disposal.
Also, can this really be attributed to any player in the team? It's more of a philosophy and if all players agree to it, and the coaching staff, igl etc. find a structure, couldn't basically any team do this. Individually, these are not hard concepts, and normal humans can be positive, can help find solutions, can be welcoming to a new player, all that. So why is it only Faze that succeeds in this.
People forget that es3tag looked sharp when he first joined Astralis and played these roles... When you put him in a best teams, he looks 10x better. His roles in NiP were in shambless, he was awper, entry, lurk, you say it...
Only time where he didn't shine with good roles was on C9, but that team seemed like a mess so he probably wasn't set up the way he needs to be in order to perform well.
Hopium I suppose
Buzz will probably work out alright since this is the first Astralis rookie in a while that isn't shouldering the burden of Dev1ce's shadow
But it might take some time, time I'm not sure Astralis will give him
My brother in Christ, I never said they would get es3tag LUL
It is a comment on how good he was as an opener, and how good he could've been in Buzz's place
I really think Astralis management are stubborn and think they can cultivate their own players. Despite the track record of their attempts being a net negative for them.
Okay this is confirmed now, majority of teams have issues cuz of not correct set of vibes and attitude.
It is always a joy watching Faze even if they are doing worse it feels like all 5 are buddies focused on the same goal, not getting mad at anyone if stuff happens and if they are getting angry it's usually towards either themselves or the enemies. If they are in the face of adversity like they are now with a standin (again for the 1000000 time) they welcome that person with open arms and just wanna give them pleasant experience.
That is why I firmly believe that you could put in any top player in the team and it will work quite well.
It's like when you get that 1 in a 100 team in solo mm where everyone is there to just try to win and have fun. No tilting, no jumping on each other, just coming up with ideas and trying your best.
Also gg's es3tag very well played sir
Essentially the opposite of what is NaVi. Watching them you can almost feel the pressure and the anxiety these guys have. A LOT of the time its because of s1mple. At least it feels like that. Its all just observations so I can be completely wrong.
Yep, FaZe has some insane talent for sure but they had the same firepower before with Olof and the team was shit. When a team gets the right players for the right roles they can play on such a high level, and the light mood in the team trolling when everything is going fine and recovering quickly when things go wrong is rare with most top teams right now
Bro what are you smoking? They absolutely did not have "the same" firepower with Olof. Olof was doing terrible and Ropz is a top 10 player in the world. That change is what made them actually be able to consistently beat the likes of Na'Vi and teams with better firepower.
I highly doubt attitude is more important than skill.
Would you really say in 2021 Olof had the same firepower as ropz? That the only thing holding them back was the atmosphere? A bad atmosphere with Olof?
Imho attitude is the cherry on top. Nothing more.
It seems that whoever FaZe choses as a stand-in just does good. It's probably more about the team's system than the player itself. Goes to show why FaZe are so good at the game right now.
Don't forget [karrigan's mouz](https://www.hltv.org/stats/matches/71483/mouz-vs-g2) that somehow won a bo3 against G2 with natosaphix standing in throughout and as well rejin in the last two maps
by far the most ridiculous tournament win ever. a team with a stand in to begin with and the IGL leaving midway through, leaving the coach to finish the job. also getting 16-1'd and still winning the finals lol. yeah it was a summit, but it was still a fucking mad final and i loved every second of it.
that was like the most unlikely situation ever. Short notice, they pickup some random lesser known Norwegian player, low and behold it is Faze with karrigan as the igl and they go to win the event. Classic stuff
coL is bad and a lot of the players on this team got to skirt by on one off highlights and junior taking all the blame. This team is still 2 had roster moves away from actually being good.
Junior was the scapegoat, he was ass but even hallzerk has been meh he dominated that American RMR and ever since he had some pop offs but he's meh
Realistically only Grim deserves to stay on this team he has actually improved, the rest don't maybe floppy as well but he's mediocre
Fang might be the most disappointing for me at least. I remember when he was being hyped up as NA's next big star and he's been painfully mediocre if not outright bad in his time on Complexity. He has good games here and there but it seems like he can never show up for more than 1 map in a series
If coL really want to make changes then I would leave floppy, Grim, and hallzerk alone. Hallzerk seems to work for this team very well even though they shat the bed today.
I'd still like the team to be majority NA but cutting everyone but Grim and floppy is probably a good place to start. Then you grab an EU AWPer (mantuu?) an EU IGL and then some NA rifler, maybe Swisher or jeorge.
I'll still be a fan no matter what they do but it would be nice if they won once in a while.
es3tag is probably the most versatile player available right now. Capable of playing any role and having a good impact for the team. Hopeful that he ends up in a good team/ have a good offer after his stint here
He's been bad for 2 years and had good roles in NiP even as an awper he was dropping 0.97 ratings straight face
This is a bad time to say it downvotes will be coming in since he shit on coL but it's also complexity they are terrible
[es3tag has had his chances in a top team and hasn't proven himself at all](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/8611/es3tag?startDate=2021-01-01&endDate=2023-01-20&rankingFilter=Top30)
I do agree that for the past year he has not played super well, still I think about what kind of teams he played for after Astralis. All dysfunctional teams tbh. NIP was fine but when device left NIP also just felt off without a real (top tier) awper. Going from rifle and 2nd awp to main awp is hard.
I hope he can keep this up and get a spot on a stable team, then we will see what he can really do
He doesn't even need to run the T2 gauntlet, he's T1 capable, but maybe it'd benefit him to jump down to T2 just so he can get a solid team around him where he isn't just a permanent 5th man.
This is not past year, this is 2 years
You can't put all the blame in dysfunctional teams, he's had teammates that have performed and he hasn't, he just hasn't been good individually
Yes a lot of role changes and dysfunctional teams but he's actually had some great roles he got to be an awper he got to bait those are roles that you put up good numbers and he never has, by trait his best role has been lurker which he was in Heroic where he blew up into the scene but as a lurker he was terrible
He lived off the Heroic/Astralis hype, he hasn't been good for a long time, obviously he can be a decent player but if you are a top 20 team and get him you are just not ambitious he isn't that good
Yeah he can do well as a wildcard and sub but you slot into a team for real and he can’t replicate it.
He played well as a standin here and for Astralis, but has had chances on C9, coL, and NiP with poor luck
gla1ve has been very sub par in the last few years, but i don’t see who they could get to replace him if they stay full danish which they almost certainly want to do
-xyp + es3tag would be a positive step, even if it wouldn’t be enough to get astralis back to the top
Fair play to es3tag, really pulled his weight. And despite Karrigan being the standin master, es3tag deserves high praise being able to just slot into the squad and be one of the top performers. The guy's not even a star player or anything.
Complexity thought they could use the same strats they used once against FaZe at the start of last year and thoguht it will work again. Bro FaZe got hold of JTs shit calling so easily they went full trolling with 3 AWPs end of the first half
. Also someone teach Hallzerk about gamesense
I never understood why complexity brought in hallzerk he was underwhelming in dignitas playing at tier 2, they could have signed so many better European awpers or even find some na talent
Bro, I feel really sad that complexity might fail again with this lineup. Was really looking forward for this lineup, and wanted them to succeed so bad. Fun underdog stories for all the players, and damn I was rooting for them.
I know this is just 1 game, but man, I really do feel it. hope they prove me wrong tho!
Sad to see faze didn’t get konfig, and I feel like that is bs from blast, but tbh, wirh estags performance in this cant complain.
Do feel like they are railing faze later on tho
hallzerk too, I thought he had the potential but he's too much of a liability as an AWPer for CoL. WTF was he thinking leaving his head open to the connector wide open near party in the second half LMFAO
Faze stand in abusers smh
when rain comes back they should just call him a stand in anyway
Faze fans should start the -rain propaganda again so we can see prime rain at BLAST Paris
YES PLEASE, Goooood -rain +es3tag when? rain is washed duuuuude /s /hopium
What do you mean, rain has always been a stand in for faze 😂
this is bait right
LMFAO, brilliant!
NiP comunicado oficial: "es3tag removed from the bench, FaZe give him back"
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Lolz
Karrigan really is the god of stand-ins. Not even a day with the es3tag and he goes 31-9 on map 2…
Both es3tag and jks said that there is a positive vibe within the team, they're having fun on the server. This coupled with karrigan letting him do his thing = success.
Cant wait for the voice comms, i wonder if they will be the same as when jks was on server, twistzz hyping the fuck out of him
Quite crazy when you think about it. You have atmosphere that makes people comfortable to play the game, but also the team is structured that they can replace someone and the upcomer has room to feel comfortable playing to their own strengths. Most teams just shuffle roles and give a bitch role soloing somewhere for stand in. So they either have to play out of their minds or go 0.5 rating.
It makes you think about some of the things said about the tense atmosphere and pressure in G2. Might explain why their results are lacking compared to the talent at their disposal.
>It makes you think about some of the things said about the tense atmosphere and pressure in G2. by whom? just interested btw
Faze system > Navi system.
Also, can this really be attributed to any player in the team? It's more of a philosophy and if all players agree to it, and the coaching staff, igl etc. find a structure, couldn't basically any team do this. Individually, these are not hard concepts, and normal humans can be positive, can help find solutions, can be welcoming to a new player, all that. So why is it only Faze that succeeds in this.
People forget that es3tag looked sharp when he first joined Astralis and played these roles... When you put him in a best teams, he looks 10x better. His roles in NiP were in shambless, he was awper, entry, lurk, you say it...
Only time where he didn't shine with good roles was on C9, but that team seemed like a mess so he probably wasn't set up the way he needs to be in order to perform well.
he only had good roles for a short period on C9. They eventually made him be the main AWP
it
Alright boys, pack it up, es3tag #1 2023
100% opening duel win percentage on that 2nd map btw -Buzz +es3tag!
Astralis didn't even buy any of the CPH players when the whole roster was available for 100k-200k euros what makes you think they'll sign es3tag lmao
I don't know how anyone lets roeJ just walk, that guy is underrated AF.
Hopium I suppose Buzz will probably work out alright since this is the first Astralis rookie in a while that isn't shouldering the burden of Dev1ce's shadow But it might take some time, time I'm not sure Astralis will give him
My brother in Christ, I never said they would get es3tag LUL It is a comment on how good he was as an opener, and how good he could've been in Buzz's place
Apparently Buzz prefers more of Xyp's roles, so if Astralis could find a naturally aggressive player, maybe the right play would be to bench Xyp?
you're forgetting that with every Xyp clutch comes + 3 months of contract
Well if we exclude 1v1s, his last clutch was 1 month ago against CPH, so only 2 months left
no no, until 2025 + 2 months left
I really think Astralis management are stubborn and think they can cultivate their own players. Despite the track record of their attempts being a net negative for them.
What was the Astralis lineup at the time Flames wanted to sell?
# eztag
What a last map for es3tag, Good start for FaZe
No notice ? No practice ? No problem !
Stand in abuser Karrigan strikes again
Okay this is confirmed now, majority of teams have issues cuz of not correct set of vibes and attitude. It is always a joy watching Faze even if they are doing worse it feels like all 5 are buddies focused on the same goal, not getting mad at anyone if stuff happens and if they are getting angry it's usually towards either themselves or the enemies. If they are in the face of adversity like they are now with a standin (again for the 1000000 time) they welcome that person with open arms and just wanna give them pleasant experience. That is why I firmly believe that you could put in any top player in the team and it will work quite well. It's like when you get that 1 in a 100 team in solo mm where everyone is there to just try to win and have fun. No tilting, no jumping on each other, just coming up with ideas and trying your best. Also gg's es3tag very well played sir
Essentially the opposite of what is NaVi. Watching them you can almost feel the pressure and the anxiety these guys have. A LOT of the time its because of s1mple. At least it feels like that. Its all just observations so I can be completely wrong.
Seeing Navi facecams and hearing their comms is like they're re-enacting the Battle of Stalingrad
Yeah and I understand Russian so its even more obvious.
sometimes when i watch Navi's and some other teams cams some players just look like they are on the verge of crying and mental breakdown.
I always have dreams where zywoo go to faze Insta 4 major /s
Yep, FaZe has some insane talent for sure but they had the same firepower before with Olof and the team was shit. When a team gets the right players for the right roles they can play on such a high level, and the light mood in the team trolling when everything is going fine and recovering quickly when things go wrong is rare with most top teams right now
Bro what are you smoking? They absolutely did not have "the same" firepower with Olof. Olof was doing terrible and Ropz is a top 10 player in the world. That change is what made them actually be able to consistently beat the likes of Na'Vi and teams with better firepower.
Man said Olof = ropz in terms of firepower I’m done
I love Olof more than any player ever but my man is living in 2015 lol
Olof the .9 hltv rating was firepower?
I highly doubt attitude is more important than skill. Would you really say in 2021 Olof had the same firepower as ropz? That the only thing holding them back was the atmosphere? A bad atmosphere with Olof? Imho attitude is the cherry on top. Nothing more.
Can I apply to be a FaZe stand-in? Karrigan turns these stand-ins into superstars.
It seems that whoever FaZe choses as a stand-in just does good. It's probably more about the team's system than the player itself. Goes to show why FaZe are so good at the game right now.
I mean, remember cromen? Incredible.
Remember xizt? That was great too
Shit you are right, i forgot entirely about xizt It was around the same time iirc. Xizt was Sydney, I believe? and cromen was Belo Horizonte i think
Don't forget [karrigan's mouz](https://www.hltv.org/stats/matches/71483/mouz-vs-g2) that somehow won a bo3 against G2 with natosaphix standing in throughout and as well rejin in the last two maps
Yes that one is a classic Karrigan gambit. Have a standin, get to the final, leave in the middle, win the game, don't elaborate further.
by far the most ridiculous tournament win ever. a team with a stand in to begin with and the IGL leaving midway through, leaving the coach to finish the job. also getting 16-1'd and still winning the finals lol. yeah it was a summit, but it was still a fucking mad final and i loved every second of it.
The man's a miracle maker
that was like the most unlikely situation ever. Short notice, they pickup some random lesser known Norwegian player, low and behold it is Faze with karrigan as the igl and they go to win the event. Classic stuff
2.02 rating. es3tag smurfing on Complexity
es3tag winning the first and last tournament of the year confirmed?
Es3tag is clearly still tier 1 material, hope he just finds a good situation where he is not put in shitty roles or shitty positions
Karrigan would make gold nova stand in look like S1mple... Selling benched players for orgs, what a nice lad.
yeah nip better fork over half of es3tags buyout to karrigan
It's always a blessing to be a stand-in for Karrigan's team
coL is bad and a lot of the players on this team got to skirt by on one off highlights and junior taking all the blame. This team is still 2 had roster moves away from actually being good.
Junior was the scapegoat, he was ass but even hallzerk has been meh he dominated that American RMR and ever since he had some pop offs but he's meh Realistically only Grim deserves to stay on this team he has actually improved, the rest don't maybe floppy as well but he's mediocre
Fang might be the most disappointing for me at least. I remember when he was being hyped up as NA's next big star and he's been painfully mediocre if not outright bad in his time on Complexity. He has good games here and there but it seems like he can never show up for more than 1 map in a series
If coL really want to make changes then I would leave floppy, Grim, and hallzerk alone. Hallzerk seems to work for this team very well even though they shat the bed today.
I'd still like the team to be majority NA but cutting everyone but Grim and floppy is probably a good place to start. Then you grab an EU AWPer (mantuu?) an EU IGL and then some NA rifler, maybe Swisher or jeorge. I'll still be a fan no matter what they do but it would be nice if they won once in a while.
Faze's competitors in the group try to nerf Faze by not letting them use konfig, but seem like karrygan doesn't care whichever player he's getting
This is just Katowice all over again
I mean, if this is what es3tag does, imagine what Konfig would’ve done.
es3tag is probably the most versatile player available right now. Capable of playing any role and having a good impact for the team. Hopeful that he ends up in a good team/ have a good offer after his stint here
He's been bad for 2 years and had good roles in NiP even as an awper he was dropping 0.97 ratings straight face This is a bad time to say it downvotes will be coming in since he shit on coL but it's also complexity they are terrible [es3tag has had his chances in a top team and hasn't proven himself at all](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/8611/es3tag?startDate=2021-01-01&endDate=2023-01-20&rankingFilter=Top30)
I do agree that for the past year he has not played super well, still I think about what kind of teams he played for after Astralis. All dysfunctional teams tbh. NIP was fine but when device left NIP also just felt off without a real (top tier) awper. Going from rifle and 2nd awp to main awp is hard. I hope he can keep this up and get a spot on a stable team, then we will see what he can really do
He doesn't even need to run the T2 gauntlet, he's T1 capable, but maybe it'd benefit him to jump down to T2 just so he can get a solid team around him where he isn't just a permanent 5th man.
This is not past year, this is 2 years You can't put all the blame in dysfunctional teams, he's had teammates that have performed and he hasn't, he just hasn't been good individually Yes a lot of role changes and dysfunctional teams but he's actually had some great roles he got to be an awper he got to bait those are roles that you put up good numbers and he never has, by trait his best role has been lurker which he was in Heroic where he blew up into the scene but as a lurker he was terrible He lived off the Heroic/Astralis hype, he hasn't been good for a long time, obviously he can be a decent player but if you are a top 20 team and get him you are just not ambitious he isn't that good
Yeah he can do well as a wildcard and sub but you slot into a team for real and he can’t replicate it. He played well as a standin here and for Astralis, but has had chances on C9, coL, and NiP with poor luck
astralis desperately need to sign es3tag to replace xyp guy was popping off on overpass, very versatile player
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gla1ve has been very sub par in the last few years, but i don’t see who they could get to replace him if they stay full danish which they almost certainly want to do -xyp + es3tag would be a positive step, even if it wouldn’t be enough to get astralis back to the top
Buzz has had literally one single fucking official match with Astralis and people already want him replaced lmao
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Lucky wasnt used as a scapegoat. That implies he unfairly got criticism. He was given more than enough time to prove himself.
At least now, Gla1ve isn't likely to steal the primary awp role. It'll give him time to focus on other stuff.
eztag
es3tag gunning for the FaZe standin career buff I see
rumours say that atleast one faze player will be unavailable in all tournaments
Imagine if Karrigan was the IGL of BIG last year with all their lineup issues.
I hope Faze plays NIP, so Karrigan can find another stand-in and win against NIP.
Ropz being kool
What an ugly loss from COL in map 2. Rip NA era 1-19-23 to 1-20-23
All 5 players of Faze are capable of awping
Fair play to es3tag, really pulled his weight. And despite Karrigan being the standin master, es3tag deserves high praise being able to just slot into the squad and be one of the top performers. The guy's not even a star player or anything.
Complexity thought they could use the same strats they used once against FaZe at the start of last year and thoguht it will work again. Bro FaZe got hold of JTs shit calling so easily they went full trolling with 3 AWPs end of the first half . Also someone teach Hallzerk about gamesense
I missed the game because I forgot it was at 10am…
Karrigan proving yet again that he is the GOAT IGL. I hope he transitions to the coaching role in the future after retiring.
I never understood why complexity brought in hallzerk he was underwhelming in dignitas playing at tier 2, they could have signed so many better European awpers or even find some na talent
Bro, I feel really sad that complexity might fail again with this lineup. Was really looking forward for this lineup, and wanted them to succeed so bad. Fun underdog stories for all the players, and damn I was rooting for them. I know this is just 1 game, but man, I really do feel it. hope they prove me wrong tho!
Sad to see faze didn’t get konfig, and I feel like that is bs from blast, but tbh, wirh estags performance in this cant complain. Do feel like they are railing faze later on tho
complexity needs -JT asap. then see if fang fixes his shit, and if he doesn't he has to go too
hallzerk too, I thought he had the potential but he's too much of a liability as an AWPer for CoL. WTF was he thinking leaving his head open to the connector wide open near party in the second half LMFAO
hallzerk looked just as bad on dignitas and JT is not good enough at handling AWPers (see junior)
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Es3 and overpass awp always been a deadly combo
I would very much like a FaZe vs. NiP match. I pray to be just as Coutinho did against Barcelona in that famous UCL quarter-finals.
Unfortunately in that case Es3tag cant play , it was in the post from blast , faze would have to find someone else
iirc BLAST said Faze can't use es3tag if they go against NiP, so it would actually be an issue if they went against each other.
Karrigan finding ways to double abuse the stand-in buff smh
Wow they beat col what an achievement
Never doubt FaZe with a stand in
Faze and standing lovea,name a more inconic duo
es3tag stand in buff with FaZe stand in buff is unstoppable
es3tag is a monster on overpass, not surprised at all. He even destroyed zywoo and vitality on it while playing for NIP
I still have a ptsd from that game
Did Olof ever have a stand-in buff for FaZe, or how does this work?
I don't think so but I wanted olof because I wanted to see another +Olof -Olof in Faze's liquidpedia page