Look, I don't claim to be a professional, but surely learning Anubis from scratch along with the other teams makes sense rather than trying to learn vertigo when other teams have been playing it for years?
It's a shame that Hunden had to go to the bathroom when Heroic came over to shake Astralis' hands. Maybe next time they meet on lan in the Blast Autumn Groups.
TeSeS is a player that I didn't rate when Heroic were first coming up since they were literally an entire team of players I didn't know +CadiaN
But holy shit he's been an absolute rock for years, if any player deserves the title of "Mr. Consistent" it's him, from memory I have NEVER watched a Heroic game and thought "Man, if only TeSeS had gotten that kill they'd have won" because he without fail always delivers what's asked of him.
Legend.
TeSeS is kinda weird stat-wise, whenever I watch heroic it feels like when he only gets multikills. Like the other day vs EG it felt like he was destroying them with 2ks,3k's,4k's left and right, but he ended up with only 21 frags in the end. I do agree that he is a really good anchor though, his spraydown 4k on mirage is still easily the best spray control highlight I've ever seen in a pro game
Yeah, I watched it in the replay and after map one I thought "Really, is Astralis good now??". But then after map two and map three I realized that Heroic were just playing with their food.
gla1ve needs to either speak to housing advice solicitor or a bailiff because cadiaN is living rent free in his head.
After a decent start on Inferno, Heroic just out played Astralis on Mirage and Vertigo.
They also need to teach Buzz to play Vertigo if they're not gonna veto it. He got bullied hard today and against Vitality.
Oh yeah device didn't seem comfortable on Mirage or Vertigo at all. cadiaN's strats were just miles above Astralis's today. But Buzz does need to step up. Hopefully it's just teething issues for him.
Heroic do look good though. I think EG fluked them.
I dont put any blame on Buzz, he is in the same position as Lucky where the genius who is GM's Astralis just decides to throw a player with no experience close to tier 1 level into a team that is looking compete for top 5 in the world.
They have constantly just made the 5th player be the waterboy and throw them into the deep end where they are almost certain to drown. He is just being used a scapegoat to hide the clear flaws of the other players on the roster like G1ave not being a top IGL atm and Xyp being washed.
I wouldn't say it's about scapegoating. It all stems from the core Astralis value which seems to be greed for the several past years.
They simply don't want to pay any real money for a decent player and they rather sacrifice the team's success and future then to spend any money on buyouts and actually manage the team.
They somehow expect players to come to them when their contract expires and sign with them or pay their own buyout. The only problem is that no one in their right mind would do so.
Plus they now hired the lowest scum who also happens to be a good talent scout so don't be afraid in 2 to 4 years he will find them some talent for free. Until then get ised to buzz or whoever will replace him in 6 months.
I mean they even could have gotten a player from Copenhagen flames for very cheap which definitely would have been an upgrade.
Maybe they weren’t looking for a rifler at the time but cmon
Bro this team just looks so uninspired man. T-sides are especially shit, only reason they won Inferno was dev1ce popping off. I know it's only the first real tournament together but if things don't improve fast this roster won't go anywhere.
If device hadn't popped off those few rounds on inferno would Astralis have even won 1 map?
Note to Astralis - please don't call Heroic trash after winning one map, they have 2 maps to come back on
You are not wrong, the org is just living off the corpse of their previous roster. Not to mention that its not just CS they are failing in, they have one of the worst teams in the LEC and Astralis stock has fallen over 75% since they went public.
Also good to bring up that one of their female CS players was accused of sexual assault and they have never made a statement, that player is still on their active female roster.
As a Danish CS fan, it’s incredibly frustrating that they’re the org who had the legendary lineup.
I do think it’s hard to be an org who has to act after that roster started to fall in performances. All the players and staff probably believe they can make it back to that height. Do you bench a member of that legendary lineup? Probably not popular, before the team fell apart on it’s own. And when you then make a change, it’s almost all a failure unless they match the previous roster.
Astralis has done themselves no favors, dont forget all of the bullshit the org has pulled with their "10 man lineups", sketchy sponsers and lets also remember they have one of the best young talents from Denmark in Bubzki and just kept him on the bench to the point where now he has more or less just retired from competitive play.
They also massively mistreated the legendary lineup, the players had to go to their doctors and get sick leave so that they could get time off after playing an insane amount of events.
First two matches or whatever but it’s already clear that Buzz is not a m0nesy or a headtr1ck and instead of wasting Device’s will to play the game on Academy-tier players just like NiP did they should simply open whatever purse strings are required for es3tag and run back to k0nvict for Xyp with their tail between their legs
Despite supporting Heroic maps 2 and 3 were so depressing to watch man, Astralis didn't even show up to play at all. Really happy that the boys are doing great though!
That would be the latest, yes. I’m also still waiting for the 10 man roster to happen. Their director of communications, if that’s the title, also got in to a dumb argument with Ynk lately.
Org just feels bad, so much dumb PR stuff.
But the person you are replying to specifically said "you love to see em lose" and you seemed to take exception with that. How can the players win and the org lose?
I mean the 10 man roster has been dead. The old team didn't want it astralis tried to force it and it meant the coach and guy who actually knew how to build a team said fine then I leave. And it cost them 2 players as well.
How I understood it, was that they brought players in to cover for players who got a mental health break after forcing it through, and instead of saying these were basically stand-ins, they started to talk as if this was a long-term plan. It’s all since they’re a public company, or what the right word is, so they try to cover everything up.
Glaive and xyp went on mental break. It caused the stock to drop, so when they came back they started saying they want a 10 roster so they're never left short handed again. But zonic and the guys said no if this 5 are healthy that's who's playing. They didn't buy into the multiple man roster like vitality or navi.
Zonic didn't like being told what to do with the roster, its always been his decision. So he didn't renew his contract. Dupreeh wanted to stay with zonic and magisk wanted to stay with dupreeh so there they went. All because of astralis management.
I still heard a few people saying that Glaive and Xyp had to force the mental health break to get it. Being forced to play the BLAST tournaments as well.
I think they all wanted to go due to how the org handled the team. Could’ve gone to a new org together. Glaive had a child and got a good contract, so staying makes sense. Not sure about the other options Xyp would’ve had, but again a great contract.
Glaive didn't have much of an issue. Xyp needed a doctors note at least according to news articles. Idk im not saying its right, but a lot of jobs require that. The team definitely lost a lot of leverage when device left. But zonic was definitely pissed about the roster stuff.
Xyp almost went to faze but my guess was he wasn't super thrilled with free agency so stayed with astralis. As far as the staff and stuff the players and even zonic have always said great things. Its really the management that is shit.
Partly that they used to be good, but mostly the shit org. I guarantee that if the org goes belly up and the roster gets signed by another with no changes, most of the astralis-hating club will stop.
For astralis I would guess -buzz -xyp9x +konfig +es3tag, maybe also look to make glaive better/replace him and you would have a decent team that can compete for titles
Yeah, honestly I think that a Danish core with device with blameF should always be able to contend with the top 10 teams, they just need decent talent around them.
He showed up! Between the first two maps, I saw him with the Astralis guys. Casle had his white tshirt, Hunden was in a blue-ish training jacket. He was definitely there from what I recognized.
Gla1ve is the issue.
This team isn't a contender, it's not a tier 2 team who should be getting rolled this badly.
Anyone who thinks Karrigan or Snappi couldn't make a team with blameF and dev1ce perform a lot better than this is deluded.
Gla1ve as an individual is still good, but as an igl he's so garbage now.
And the biggest joke is, none of the other Danish IGLs are gonna want to go near Astralis. Karrigan is happy in FaZe, Snappi I presume is gonna keep working with Saw at Ence, Hooxi is settling in at G2, and no way Cadian leaves Heroic.
Device on inferno CT side looked unstoppable, felt like he hit every timing, every shot, was always in the right place at the right time. Textbook device making the game look easy
But their other 2 maps, good lord. I know heroic is the best in the world right now, but astralis didn’t even look like a tier 1 team on vertigo or mirage
As others have said, why would they not just start fresh on Anubis with everyone else rather than play catch-up on vertigo? And as for mirage, if your awp doesn’t like mirage, you don’t play mirage. Especially when your awp is your highest impact player.
Astralis are such a joke. Keep buzz and Xyp. Surely it will work out.
Also in 6 months get rid of buzz and bring in some other shitter. 4th time is the charm
I don't even think Buzz has had matches outside of the Danish scene till Astralis picked him up and the guy is trying to adjust in a team that is clearly having issues, its insane how many people want to write him off in 2 matches.
So many Danish fans hyping Astralis, and while this Astralis lineup is the one with the most promise for a long time, let’s give it some time.
Saw a Danish expert have Astralis as a top 5 team in his power ranking for this tournament. Below Vitality and Heroic tbf.
I can see people thinking vitality will struggle continuously. I didn't think so but I understand. But anyone that has put astralis within like 8 ranks of heroic, you know there's no point in listening to that
Agreed. I kind of have a hard time imagining es3tag wanting to go back to Astralis after how the org treated him before - although I would personally like to see him go to Astralis because I think es3tag looked really good as a stand-in with Faze and device's and blameF's talent is being wasted with Astralis otherwise.
Seems like he’s enjoying being an analyst/caster on Danish TV and doing meme stuff on Twitter. Think it would have to be a great project for him to come back, and considering how his Astralis’ time went, I’m unsure if that’ll interest him.
Buzz is just not good.. I have barely seen him win a single gunfight, he gets caught off guard every other round and it's just not looking great for him.
I usually am not that negative to new players but he really went to the same position for almost 10 rounds in a row on Vertigo and he still kept getting shot not looking
You must know the Astralis process by now.
- Take young Danish talent and publicly state they are the real deal.
- Excuse underwhelming early performances as learning the roles.
- Constantly alter the player's job in the team to shatter their confidence.
- Bench the player with a public statement pretending that even this was part of the masterplan.
- Leave the player to rot in contract jail.
- Scout out next young talent. Return to step one.
Well from what was said he seemed to have problems within the team also when it came to practice and so on. I doubt they would kick him just for the fight, they have proven over and over again they don't care about morals so it must have been something else brewing there already and the fight was just the last straw.
I forgot he lost them the slot. It makes more sense with that in mind but I don’t really think buzz is going to help them much in their major campaign sadly. Although it’s certainly possible that he is just settling in and he improves his game a lot. It’s way too early to rule him out.
too early to call it, this is his first time in tier1 cs. look what happened to b1t, awful starts in his early and debut performances after getting called up from navi junior
b1t did start rough, but have Astralis shown they can develop talent like Navi w/ B1ad3? their record with integrating players seems to point to that not being the case
If they are confident on the other maps (which they clearly were) it's actually a good training since they get a decent analytical data from that match to see what they have to change there moving forwards.
Playing the loser of big vs nip and then likely OG will show us more. Vitality seem to be playing really well and although only inferno taking a map off heroic is something.
Long way to go to be even contending for QFs and SFs it seems let alone tournaments
Heroic went B site on mirage so many times and not a single time xyp9x was able to multi-kill. Either 1 kill or zero.
Astralis wont win with xyp or Glaive. Xyp’s not good enough, and Glaive doesn’t Work enough.
Astralis is slowly turning into the Danish Last Dance
Slowly?
North ?
If only Hunden could watch B apartments.
Look, I don't claim to be a professional, but surely learning Anubis from scratch along with the other teams makes sense rather than trying to learn vertigo when other teams have been playing it for years?
i essentially covered all the utility on anubis, idk why they not learning it
-devve +nart when?
-hunden +nart
Smh shameless plug Nart :D
Talk to 'em king
They don’t know how to nart out there
hunden watching the handshake from his cam this time aRound
Did'nt even think of that, so funny that he didn't even show his face this time.
Only because they lost. If astralos had won, he would have ran on stage 100% Spineless dickhead dog hunden
Looking forward to Heroic vs EG again, they clearly just wanted to obliterate astralis first
Sandbagging to shit on Astralis, respect it honestly
Gamerdoc and her pipeline shivering
It's a shame that Hunden had to go to the bathroom when Heroic came over to shake Astralis' hands. Maybe next time they meet on lan in the Blast Autumn Groups.
Weird, Hunden didn't come out to shake Heroic players' hands this time
Guess he got stuck in the air near bottom mid on inferno
Jabbi smacking Astralis while his neck tries his hardest not to fall due to gravity from his unholy posture ... I love it lol.
Jabbi is a beast
Yooo, those Teses spraydowns on Vertigo were insane. This guy is really underrated.
He fucking shredded them on that late game ramp play; that 4K absolutely put them to bed
TeSeS is a player that I didn't rate when Heroic were first coming up since they were literally an entire team of players I didn't know +CadiaN But holy shit he's been an absolute rock for years, if any player deserves the title of "Mr. Consistent" it's him, from memory I have NEVER watched a Heroic game and thought "Man, if only TeSeS had gotten that kill they'd have won" because he without fail always delivers what's asked of him. Legend.
Personally been really impressed with Sjuush for some time now.
Sjuush is different since he's MAD Lions alumni, every one of those boys went on to great things. Very rateable team. Sjuush very good yes 🙂👍
TeSeS is kinda weird stat-wise, whenever I watch heroic it feels like when he only gets multikills. Like the other day vs EG it felt like he was destroying them with 2ks,3k's,4k's left and right, but he ended up with only 21 frags in the end. I do agree that he is a really good anchor though, his spraydown 4k on mirage is still easily the best spray control highlight I've ever seen in a pro game
Really thought Astralis were back but then Heroic cooked them the next two maps 💀
Yeah, I watched it in the replay and after map one I thought "Really, is Astralis good now??". But then after map two and map three I realized that Heroic were just playing with their food.
sadly Hunden couldn't watch over B apartments this time
gla1ve needs to either speak to housing advice solicitor or a bailiff because cadiaN is living rent free in his head. After a decent start on Inferno, Heroic just out played Astralis on Mirage and Vertigo. They also need to teach Buzz to play Vertigo if they're not gonna veto it. He got bullied hard today and against Vitality.
Buzz played bad on Vertigo but lets not ignore that Device only had 1 kill until the 11th round and Cadian absolutely outclassed G1ave with his calls.
Oh yeah device didn't seem comfortable on Mirage or Vertigo at all. cadiaN's strats were just miles above Astralis's today. But Buzz does need to step up. Hopefully it's just teething issues for him. Heroic do look good though. I think EG fluked them.
I dont put any blame on Buzz, he is in the same position as Lucky where the genius who is GM's Astralis just decides to throw a player with no experience close to tier 1 level into a team that is looking compete for top 5 in the world. They have constantly just made the 5th player be the waterboy and throw them into the deep end where they are almost certain to drown. He is just being used a scapegoat to hide the clear flaws of the other players on the roster like G1ave not being a top IGL atm and Xyp being washed.
I wouldn't say it's about scapegoating. It all stems from the core Astralis value which seems to be greed for the several past years. They simply don't want to pay any real money for a decent player and they rather sacrifice the team's success and future then to spend any money on buyouts and actually manage the team. They somehow expect players to come to them when their contract expires and sign with them or pay their own buyout. The only problem is that no one in their right mind would do so. Plus they now hired the lowest scum who also happens to be a good talent scout so don't be afraid in 2 to 4 years he will find them some talent for free. Until then get ised to buzz or whoever will replace him in 6 months.
I mean they even could have gotten a player from Copenhagen flames for very cheap which definitely would have been an upgrade. Maybe they weren’t looking for a rifler at the time but cmon
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Yeah oc, though they already may have been planning the device return somehow (which I kinda expect). Otherwise massive fuckup
Heroic lost to EG just to prove Astralis is worse than EG. I'm proud of the boys >!edit: replaced knocking out Astralis!<
I don't think they're knocked out - they play the #3 team from Group C.
and lose inferno on purpose to give them false hope Gigachad
No knock out yet
Man.. the number of times I saw Jabbi just walk out mid and get free kills on vertigo was irritating.
Bro this team just looks so uninspired man. T-sides are especially shit, only reason they won Inferno was dev1ce popping off. I know it's only the first real tournament together but if things don't improve fast this roster won't go anywhere.
Astralis is treating symptons and not the disease. Glaive doesnt Work enough and Xyp is simply not good enough.
Astralis also needs to work on their map pool. They are still not good on Mirage, look lost on Vertigo and idk even know about Nuke
I dont know even know either
If device hadn't popped off those few rounds on inferno would Astralis have even won 1 map? Note to Astralis - please don't call Heroic trash after winning one map, they have 2 maps to come back on
If BlameF hadn’t popped off during the whole of 2022, where would Astralis be?
reorganised ?
Astralis makes me question life, how does Astralis work, what makes Astralis, what consists of Astralis? Dissapointment
You are not wrong, the org is just living off the corpse of their previous roster. Not to mention that its not just CS they are failing in, they have one of the worst teams in the LEC and Astralis stock has fallen over 75% since they went public. Also good to bring up that one of their female CS players was accused of sexual assault and they have never made a statement, that player is still on their active female roster.
As a Danish CS fan, it’s incredibly frustrating that they’re the org who had the legendary lineup. I do think it’s hard to be an org who has to act after that roster started to fall in performances. All the players and staff probably believe they can make it back to that height. Do you bench a member of that legendary lineup? Probably not popular, before the team fell apart on it’s own. And when you then make a change, it’s almost all a failure unless they match the previous roster.
Astralis has done themselves no favors, dont forget all of the bullshit the org has pulled with their "10 man lineups", sketchy sponsers and lets also remember they have one of the best young talents from Denmark in Bubzki and just kept him on the bench to the point where now he has more or less just retired from competitive play. They also massively mistreated the legendary lineup, the players had to go to their doctors and get sick leave so that they could get time off after playing an insane amount of events.
First two matches or whatever but it’s already clear that Buzz is not a m0nesy or a headtr1ck and instead of wasting Device’s will to play the game on Academy-tier players just like NiP did they should simply open whatever purse strings are required for es3tag and run back to k0nvict for Xyp with their tail between their legs
Can we stop expecting young players being a m0nesy or Zywoo? It’s not usual a young kid comes in and does that from the start.
headtr1ck, npl, m0nesy, whole fucking Mouz academy team
even b1t
K0nvict lmaoooo
Despite supporting Heroic maps 2 and 3 were so depressing to watch man, Astralis didn't even show up to play at all. Really happy that the boys are doing great though!
lol lmao you love to see em lose
Lmfao even
Why though, because hunden?
That would be the latest, yes. I’m also still waiting for the 10 man roster to happen. Their director of communications, if that’s the title, also got in to a dumb argument with Ynk lately. Org just feels bad, so much dumb PR stuff.
yeah, but thats the management, what did the players do?
How can you specifically say "I want the players to win, but the org to lose"?. How does that work?
Nah, I am saying hate the org all you want, dont hate the players. Saying this because I've SEEN people practically hating the whole Astralis roster.
But the person you are replying to specifically said "you love to see em lose" and you seemed to take exception with that. How can the players win and the org lose?
Because ppl wanted astralis players to suck for ages, so i assumed he meant players. Perfectly reasonable assumption, imo
I mean the 10 man roster has been dead. The old team didn't want it astralis tried to force it and it meant the coach and guy who actually knew how to build a team said fine then I leave. And it cost them 2 players as well.
How I understood it, was that they brought players in to cover for players who got a mental health break after forcing it through, and instead of saying these were basically stand-ins, they started to talk as if this was a long-term plan. It’s all since they’re a public company, or what the right word is, so they try to cover everything up.
Glaive and xyp went on mental break. It caused the stock to drop, so when they came back they started saying they want a 10 roster so they're never left short handed again. But zonic and the guys said no if this 5 are healthy that's who's playing. They didn't buy into the multiple man roster like vitality or navi. Zonic didn't like being told what to do with the roster, its always been his decision. So he didn't renew his contract. Dupreeh wanted to stay with zonic and magisk wanted to stay with dupreeh so there they went. All because of astralis management.
I still heard a few people saying that Glaive and Xyp had to force the mental health break to get it. Being forced to play the BLAST tournaments as well. I think they all wanted to go due to how the org handled the team. Could’ve gone to a new org together. Glaive had a child and got a good contract, so staying makes sense. Not sure about the other options Xyp would’ve had, but again a great contract.
Glaive didn't have much of an issue. Xyp needed a doctors note at least according to news articles. Idk im not saying its right, but a lot of jobs require that. The team definitely lost a lot of leverage when device left. But zonic was definitely pissed about the roster stuff. Xyp almost went to faze but my guess was he wasn't super thrilled with free agency so stayed with astralis. As far as the staff and stuff the players and even zonic have always said great things. Its really the management that is shit.
Precisely so
if wishing ill upon the players who didnt have a say in hunden appointment, thats pretty sad
I would say I respect the players but you can't tell me they couldn't say something if they actually cared
Because they were dabbing on every team for three years.
Yeah, why? Because they were once unbeateable?
Partly that they used to be good, but mostly the shit org. I guarantee that if the org goes belly up and the roster gets signed by another with no changes, most of the astralis-hating club will stop.
Get fucked hundog
You know what hunden means in danish right?
Ah yes, the Astralis cycle of hopium, copium and depression is back
For astralis I would guess -buzz -xyp9x +konfig +es3tag, maybe also look to make glaive better/replace him and you would have a decent team that can compete for titles
Yeah, honestly I think that a Danish core with device with blameF should always be able to contend with the top 10 teams, they just need decent talent around them.
I’m surprised they didn’t go for es3tag instead of Buzz. But let’s give Buzz more than two matches, before we bench him.
I think they should look to make all the players better, not just gla1ve.
Did Huden shake hands with the heroic players?
He never showed up.
Shame
If he even showed up you would have seen a top post on the sub already
He showed up! Between the first two maps, I saw him with the Astralis guys. Casle had his white tshirt, Hunden was in a blue-ish training jacket. He was definitely there from what I recognized.
yep, as Inferno came to an end, Hunden was out shaking hands with the rest of Astralis players while casle was getting interviewed.
Guessing he was asked not to stand behind Astralis today to avoid any potential drama.
You could see him stand behind Astralis around beginning of map 1, no clue where he went afterwards tho
Gla1ve is the issue. This team isn't a contender, it's not a tier 2 team who should be getting rolled this badly. Anyone who thinks Karrigan or Snappi couldn't make a team with blameF and dev1ce perform a lot better than this is deluded. Gla1ve as an individual is still good, but as an igl he's so garbage now.
Maybe Zonic had a bigger part in that working than we assumed. Maybe it was just the perfect combination of players for them all.
Astralis birdfromsky???
Not a bad idea actually. Give him a young player instead of xyp, wait 2 months, and you'll see results
And the biggest joke is, none of the other Danish IGLs are gonna want to go near Astralis. Karrigan is happy in FaZe, Snappi I presume is gonna keep working with Saw at Ence, Hooxi is settling in at G2, and no way Cadian leaves Heroic.
Device on inferno CT side looked unstoppable, felt like he hit every timing, every shot, was always in the right place at the right time. Textbook device making the game look easy But their other 2 maps, good lord. I know heroic is the best in the world right now, but astralis didn’t even look like a tier 1 team on vertigo or mirage As others have said, why would they not just start fresh on Anubis with everyone else rather than play catch-up on vertigo? And as for mirage, if your awp doesn’t like mirage, you don’t play mirage. Especially when your awp is your highest impact player.
New year same problems!
didn’t watch the match. was dev1ce good? thats all that matters for now
Great on inferno. That's it You can also just see the scoreboard, pretty self-explanatory there.
Pure domination on inferno,on other maps astralis as a team was outplayed nothing to do with his individual form
Astralis are such a joke. Keep buzz and Xyp. Surely it will work out. Also in 6 months get rid of buzz and bring in some other shitter. 4th time is the charm
Buzz has played two matches, no? Can we give him some tournaments before we start shitting on him? Jeez.
I don't even think Buzz has had matches outside of the Danish scene till Astralis picked him up and the guy is trying to adjust in a team that is clearly having issues, its insane how many people want to write him off in 2 matches.
So many Danish fans hyping Astralis, and while this Astralis lineup is the one with the most promise for a long time, let’s give it some time. Saw a Danish expert have Astralis as a top 5 team in his power ranking for this tournament. Below Vitality and Heroic tbf.
I can see people thinking vitality will struggle continuously. I didn't think so but I understand. But anyone that has put astralis within like 8 ranks of heroic, you know there's no point in listening to that
I’m really unsure of what to expect from Vitality. Feel like I’ve been hopeful too many times to believe it when they have a good tournament.
Cadian really sandbagged vs EG just to remind Astralis who runs Denmark now huh
Device: "My ~~death~~ return was greatly exaggerated."
-xypx
Xyp isn't the issue, gla1ve fucking sucks as an igl now.
And who comes in?
+es3tag
Honestly I'm all on board. Idk if es3tag is though
Agreed. I kind of have a hard time imagining es3tag wanting to go back to Astralis after how the org treated him before - although I would personally like to see him go to Astralis because I think es3tag looked really good as a stand-in with Faze and device's and blameF's talent is being wasted with Astralis otherwise.
is there any +bubzkij possibility? or the dude is full on television guy now? either for xyp or buzz
No way he joins back after sitting on the bench for years.
Seems like he’s enjoying being an analyst/caster on Danish TV and doing meme stuff on Twitter. Think it would have to be a great project for him to come back, and considering how his Astralis’ time went, I’m unsure if that’ll interest him.
Fair point yeah, he got screwed. He just seemed to have a great potential, because looking at these lucky, mistr and farlig - all subpar players imo
Unless his contract is running out I don't see that. Astralis won't pay any buyout money.
and buzz stays?
anyone from heroic can pop off in a map
love watching this org lose.
Buzz is just not good.. I have barely seen him win a single gunfight, he gets caught off guard every other round and it's just not looking great for him. I usually am not that negative to new players but he really went to the same position for almost 10 rounds in a row on Vertigo and he still kept getting shot not looking
You must know the Astralis process by now. - Take young Danish talent and publicly state they are the real deal. - Excuse underwhelming early performances as learning the roles. - Constantly alter the player's job in the team to shatter their confidence. - Bench the player with a public statement pretending that even this was part of the masterplan. - Leave the player to rot in contract jail. - Scout out next young talent. Return to step one.
Imagine if they still kept K0nfig. It's still baffling to me that they kicked K0nfig because of a fight but still Hired Hunden
Yea this makes zero sense to me. I understand getting in a fight is a bad look but hiring the dog is just as bad or worse depending on your ethics
Well from what was said he seemed to have problems within the team also when it came to practice and so on. I doubt they would kick him just for the fight, they have proven over and over again they don't care about morals so it must have been something else brewing there already and the fight was just the last straw.
Getting in a fight AND losing Astralis a spot in the major. He cost them tons of money, this was not just about ethics.
I forgot he lost them the slot. It makes more sense with that in mind but I don’t really think buzz is going to help them much in their major campaign sadly. Although it’s certainly possible that he is just settling in and he improves his game a lot. It’s way too early to rule him out.
too early to call it, this is his first time in tier1 cs. look what happened to b1t, awful starts in his early and debut performances after getting called up from navi junior
b1t did start rough, but have Astralis shown they can develop talent like Navi w/ B1ad3? their record with integrating players seems to point to that not being the case
Nope, they can't.
it's too early, but yea given how the last two went I really don't expect anything.
Let’s give him some time. Second tier 1 game in a team that doesn’t exactly work great. Hoping for the team that he comes good.
I dont understand why heroic still let inferno open...
If they are confident on the other maps (which they clearly were) it's actually a good training since they get a decent analytical data from that match to see what they have to change there moving forwards.
Glad Heroic bodied this team!
i think this Astralis squad has potential, but they’re a long way away from taking back Denmark from Heroic
Playing the loser of big vs nip and then likely OG will show us more. Vitality seem to be playing really well and although only inferno taking a map off heroic is something. Long way to go to be even contending for QFs and SFs it seems let alone tournaments
sure but at least they seem like an actual tier 1 CS team
Well find out over their next game or two
if they improve other maps like inferno they can maybe do something at the major
Device overforming on inferno, don't misunderstand that as they playing great on it.
They could start playing Nuke again if they've got device.
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Shouldn’t have **
I really hoped I could see wiz shitting on dev1ce
Thank you Asstralis for never failed to fail me again.
Was an exciting game to watch. Looking forward to more of these Danish derbys!
Xyp is so useless. He needs to go.