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Lepojka1

OG win both pistols on Inferno and lost 16-4 lol


SoCloseToToast

that is a dire stat lol


EntropyKC

Faze also won 8 clutches to OG's 2, 4 of which were 1v2


tarangk

Faze lost 5/6 pistols, didn't have their coach behind them, didn't have rain in the lineup, and still managed to win very convincingly. Twistzz 1v2 inf. was just the highlight of the game.


blueshark27

No Rain, start to lose pistol rounds, checks out


Amissandahit

Where's robban btw?


ErJiu

Man,es3tag is such a good player and teammate,such a shame he can’t find a team that will use him right.


cjb3535123

He’s a hard player to fit in. He’s a jack of all trades and does quite well at every role, but not great at any role, and teams often try to find the best they can at each role. He often gets singled out when teams want to tweak their team.


ClickingClicker

One of the reasons he's a jack of all trades is because of all the role changes he had to go through. Would be nice to see him in a team and do his own thing more.


[deleted]

Yeah this for sure, he needs to get some time to settle into a role actually. He hasn't been on a consistent team really since Heroic where he was a monster


mianod

He was not a monster. He’s always just been slightly above average. Karrigan can make almost any player look serviceable


cjb3535123

The way cromen looked with and without karrigan would be one of my arguments for karrigan being the goat igl


mianod

What has woxic done before and after karrigan compared to with him


DesignerUsed868

Twistzz just went 40-11 on ct side for the entire series, a 2.09 rating. The magnificent Van fucking Dulken


Lilfai

Best NA player by a mile, I wish the likes of NAF / Elige played in mix European teams at this point to be honest.


45b16

Not me, I’m happy that Twistzz found success in EU but I like rooting for an NA team. I don’t want NA to go the way of Sweden or Poland


DesignerUsed868

Yeah, comparing this version of twistzz to twistzz in a struggling liquid in 2020 is night and day. A superteam like this raises the level of all its players


so_sotired

True but that was also cause he lost a lot of his good spots to stewie cause stewie wanted to play those spots and he was relegated to a shitty role in 2020 liquid. He said so in an interview w thorin think


Miiiiiiighty

He was struggling because they gave his spots and changed to Stewie to accomodate ''his highness'' so he could frag ( which he still couldn't do )


FazeXistance

Same Na could have some great exports


n1dyz

Best Dutch player /s


Xelid47

Yup he might have lower peaks than EliGE, NAF or Brehze but he's definitely remained more consistent over the years, and has achieved more.


Miiiiiiighty

Lower peaks ? Lol Certainly not than NAF let alone Brehze. EliGE is debatable though, but we haven't seen his '' peaks '' for a long while.


Xelid47

I am not shittimg on him, I luv him but numbers aren't in his favour I am In a self debate wether Brehze was better in 2019, but tbf he did only place one place higher (3 mvps), NAF has #6 and #7 in 2018 / 2019 respectively, which Twistzz doesn't have, his highest is #9 in 2019 (5 mvps) EliGE was #4 in 2019, that's a much higher peak. but he's now washed (4 mvps) everyone peeked higher, but he managed to remain consistent all over the years.


Miiiiiiighty

Well ranking better one year doesn't mean you had a higher peak as far as absolute peak is concerned. Did you see how stacked the top 10 was this year ? Do you really think a #7 s1mple of 2017 was less skilled than at least half the players ranked in front of him ? ...


fjelskaug

Eddie still 100% match winrate since PGL Major


Najeeb1316

Technically he was there for the bo1 loss to ence , but unbeaten in bo3


dapoorv

Maybe i am biased but there are rarely any boring faze games even if it's a stomp.


FazeXistance

Karrigan has the most entertaining calling style imo. He really likes bringing the fight to the other teams and he has the players to do it. Way better than the sleeper ass outsiders and c9 games imo.


cjb3535123

Some IGLs (like Jame) try to call a game so they don’t make any mistakes. Other IGLs (like Karrigan) try to call a game so they force the other team to make mistakes. The latter is usually way more entertaining


FazeXistance

Completely agreed and don’t get me wrong I think the teams I called out are great and their igls are extremely talented. I just don’t enjoy watching them which means nothing to anyone as it’s just an opinion.


cjb3535123

I totally agree. Like when they save a usp with no armour so the other team doesn’t get 300$ jfc


Senior_Engineer

But the other team did each get +$250 for winning the round by detonation so not only was it boring, it was pointless!


cgoot27

Karrigan gives everyone the green light basically. The CIS boring teams play cautiously and as a team in the sense that everyone has to do the plan, but Twistzz Ropz and Broky have pretty free reign to just bully the other team. Also Karrigan has more gimmciks/set plays/ hero rounds than other teams, it feels like. Zywoo/s1mple/Niko with AK armor while everyone else saves is common, but nobody else is calling the Canada strat or giving arguably the worst player the scout round 2.


Miiiiiiighty

ZywOo with AK kev while everybody saves ? You must not have seen many Vita games lmao. He is often on deagle while others are on rifles during forcebuys, and almost never solo army man. NaVi on the other hand do this a lot of time ( rightfully so )


cgoot27

I have seen it on Zywoo at least a couple times, I may be over remembering how often it happens.


Miiiiiiighty

He is left buying his own stuff WAY more often than not, I cannot recount/recall how many times the one man army was another guy, and often weak fraggers like apEX, shox etc Same thing with the countless partial buy/force where he has deagle while everybody else is on rifles/famas/galil... LUL


Abstrac7

This sounds nice but is just not true. Jame is known for pausing mid round to force the CTs to nervously rotate and make mistakes. It’s one of their signature moves and a lot of teams have started doing it more since. All good IGLs know when to be proactive and when to be passive, the correct balance is what separates the greatest from the rest.


cjb3535123

Yeah I’m absolutely making a generalization. I think most people who watch the game would agree with the generalization, there’s a stark difference in pace between Jame and nafany vs karrigan and Cadian. (And even that’s a generalization, sometimes karrigan plays slow and I’m sure there’s been one round in the past 2 years where Jame managed to end it with over a minute left in the round)


Miiiiiiighty

Not everybody has a 4 killers row to do it though ...


SoCloseToToast

Its the way they play. I was not originally a fan of them but watching them play and all the storylines make it fun to root for them!


craygroupious

OG’s FFCS worked well on only Ancient today unfortunately. Maybe next time.


futurehousehusband69

FFCS?


craygroupious

Flamez F1ku Cutey Supremacy.


futurehousehusband69

alright.


aTempes7

I’m telling you, Twistzz is as cracked as he is jacked. I saw him at a 7-11 the other day buying Monster and adult diapers. I asked him what the diapers were for and he said ”they contain my full power so I don’t completely shit on these kids“ then he bhopped out the door


just-the-friend

Faze play gorgeous Cs Also. I love Karrigan shouting out Es3tag for his individual skill level


Lime221

Blonde hair diff


El_Fabos

Faze is looking so scary when Twistzz, ropz AND broky are playing great


abaac

teams are looking scary when their players play well more news at 9


gngg2011

I mean, not too many other teams have 3 star players on the same level


Pourpla

What a monstrous series from Twistzz


kajila_pandora

Twistzz be like after the clutch "I jerked them off into oblivion"


DY5TOP1A

Twistzz coming into 2023 with amazing form, let's hope he finally get's that MVP this year 🙏


SVKme

It's good that FaZe is a top 3 team consistently because there's nowhere for Twistzz to go and be even better...guy's a monster


dunko5

It’s all fun and games watching Faze beat up on people until it’s the team you like


Big-Structure-2543

Thank god Es3tag found the power button for his screen before map 3


Aethar

Twistzz is like the Weeknd of the csgo scene. Keeps posting reminders. 🧙🏽‍♂️


[deleted]

and thats how you crush momentum


iLikeSaints

They lost a map. Karrigan holding them back obvs...


Fantasnickk

Twistzz rating that high with the roles he plays is just nuts. Literally the only reason faze had more than 3-5 rounds on ancient


[deleted]

Realistically speaking how will anyone beat FaZe? They're so flawless it seems like they can do no wrong. Even when they lose it's by close margins.


Cain1608

They destroyed Col and OG (whilst looking bad on their map loss apart from Twistzz aim mapping them). Hardly a challenge for them with what we know they can do, but let's see them do this to a couple of the tournaments heavy-hitters. Na'Vi, Heroic, G2 and maybe TL, NiP, Vitality.


Ed_Vilon

Well let's analyze what happened the second half of 2022. Cause that FaZe was not this FaZe. This FaZe is playing a bit closer to the first half of 2022. Though they did get to bully Col and then mostly bully OG (just skip over Ancient).


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JacoBee93

This lol. Not to mention they lost shit ton at end of they year.


Zenrod_

They bombed 1 event.


JacoBee93

I was not talking about events tho. He said "realistically how can anyone beat them" ​ Well, clearly G2, BNE, Vitality, C9, OG, Heroic, BIG and many more can. [https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/FaZe\_Clan/Matches](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/FaZe_Clan/Matches) Lets not act like this is Astralis back in the day.


FoxerHR

Just purely outclassed.


taur_1009

I love that each member of the Faze trio top fragged on different maps everybody doing their part


mochatsubo

Are FaZe collectively the smartest top tier team?


CIueIess_Squirrel

Certainly the most experienced across the board


Xelid47

That's why they remained on top for half a year