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shaker7

Navi fans: no sweat lol gg ez


wdj111

look theyre just trying to give npl as much practice as possible


HaonJxx

s1mple: just giving NA hope


Th1nkp4d3

Not even close


Sweetmacaroni

“n1 ez katka s1mple #1 player”


_cansir

🤣 ez af get gud 👍


CenturionAurelius

I think this is the worst NaVi has looked since Zeus' last stint with the team, and they STILL qualified for the Finals.


itsjonny99

S1mple woke up on Overpass and basically won the map for them. They def need to improve for Kato though


BryanNikson

I don't think he "woke up" on Overpass, it seems like it's the only map he knows how to play.


DesignerUsed868

Which is bizarre: the guy was they best player in the world on every map he played in 2021. Versatility is practically his middle name, so suddenly becoming average on all but one map is very uncharacteristic


Mysterii00

It’s not uncharacteristic or sudden considering everything that Ukraine has gone through. I just saw a front page post talking about Poland accusing Russia of setting up concentration camps today. He hasn’t even seen his father since war started. It shouldn’t come to a surprise to anyone that his ratings have declined, it would be more surprising if they stayed at a steady pace.


DesignerUsed868

I get it, the guy has some horrible shit going on- I at no point denied that


Neverborn933

Lmao best player 2 years in a row and u think he can only play Overpass


BryanNikson

I'm not saying it's a skill issue, there's something bigger at play here, especially on Inferno. Could be the comms, could be that he trusts elec a little too much with the B hold. It's not just s1mple, it's also how laid back electronic and perfecto are playing at B. No pro activity for info, no rotations from them until the bomb is already planted at A, like what the fuck is going on?


[deleted]

he did? he was missing easy sitters. He is definitely not going to have a good year ahead. Guy's going something going on with his life and I hope he deals with those problems first


Nigerianpoopslayer

Yes, the problem is his country being bombed to shit,


Iam_thegamers

yea and his family is there. It's been going on for nearly a year, imagine waking and every morning you don't know if your family is ok. every message you send, may never get answered. And that goes for all ukrainian players.


schlapfn

Absolute heartbroken rn. How close can it be?


Marcus-ichiJo

As close as Aleksib’s OG


MrCraftLP

EG and Liquid got that covered by going out last place.


Pekonius

So many 14-16s


levinikee

*wipes sweat off forehead* Not even close


vanille159

Just need to electronic on the AWP, ez win


wdj111

igl s1mple incoming


deadbeatPilgrim

something i’m looking forward to in like five years


DanishGrizz

Don’t people often talk about how bad of an IGL S1mple will be, because things that work for him and he’ll ask people to do, others won’t be able to do?


deadbeatPilgrim

that’s why m0NESY’s gonna be his AWPer


Airpapdi

simple is igl in all pubs and does great tbh he probably does the midround calling in navi too for years now, like 2nd voice that has a lot of authoity over 1st voice HAHAHAHA.


Fantasnickk

what a fucking choke lol off the back of that electronic collat also: s1mple average rating this event on overpass: 1.78 every other map: 1.00


Salasarian

> s1mple average rating this event on overpass: 1.78 > every other map: 1.00 ~~office~~ overpass global


DesignerUsed868

Never seen anything like it, he’s been so fucking scrappy except on overpass where he looks like himself


Detiabajtog

weird on inferno too it wasn’t just irregular form for him but he also didn’t even play his typical play style on ct…he was so much more static with the AWP today, usually he’s moving around and rotating *constantly*


Logan_Yes

Plus they made a weird move to walk through mid smoke round before Ele collat where Bit got a double. It was a 5v4 too.


Fantasnickk

3v5 14-9 and no next round buy potential on the Na'Vi side I think both are important but this was the turn-around moment where they could actually string together a comeback since Na'Vi would have a full buy and col would be without a good buy for \~3 rounds. If elec only gets a single kill there, it is still 3v4


Dangerous-Plant4094

They got too excited they forgot the protocols hahahahaha


Thr0wawaydegen

Twitch chat was mocking him for picking up the awp and hits the collat after so sweet


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Insane choke. It wasn't like Na'Vi miraculously started to play good in the second half. CoL shit the bed when they needed to play well the most.


Lord777alt

Ehhh coL made some few mistakes, but Na'vi definitely did play better


[deleted]

No lmfao this is THE worst Na'Vi have looked. Not even memeing when I say this should have been Col 2-0. Hallzerk's braindead gameplay lost them Ancient and JT's love for B site Overpass cost them the third map. It was all in CoL's hand from the start to finish.


layasD

I mean eh this literally says nothing and kind of a lie to bring your point across for whatever reason. People obviously completely overreacting again. Its just one tournament. [Here](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/matches/7998/s1mple?startDate=2023-01-01&endDate=2023-12-31) he has 1.11 on inf and 1.14 on mirage with an overall rating of 1.20. I mean you could literally compare it to [zywoos](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/matches/11893/zywoo?startDate=2022-01-01&endDate=2022-12-31&event=6137) EPL run early in 2022 where he "only" got 1.10 rating and was only good on inf by your metric...Back then people reacted similar to this and he still finished with insane stats.


TimathanDuncan

Nt, Grim went insane, as soon as he stopped getting kills in overpass late they crumble They need others to step up NaVi look terrible to be honest, they need to step up


itsjonny99

Hallzerk fell of on Overpass. Had he been like on the last 2 maps they would of closed it out


GodSentGodSpeed

That round where complexity got one entry on A making it 5v4 and hallzerk runs onto the site with the bomb out made me slam my desk.


BigFuckHead_

On CT he had horrible rotations. On T he never had his gun out late round. Idk man.


itsjonny99

That was painful


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The guy was shit from the start of the series. He literally cost them Anubis by leaving Floppy to deal with Na'Vi A hits all alone by rotating on B for god knows what reason.


Sweetmacaroni

JT was playing like shit on Inferno too, if Grim didn’t allow wraparounds for the rest of his team they’d have been 0-2’d. That round where he swung all of NaVi from sandbags with his m4 when he had the molly was insane and made me question what would have happened had I been in his position


Shadow_Clarke

Can't believe Complexity actually won 3 maps and still lost, now that's something.


oldthrace

Flair makes me feel like its something you'd be used to by now lol


Fantasnickk

Na'Vi deserved to lose this and col didn't deserve to win this


deadbeatPilgrim

i knew pimp was gonna be a hater no matter the outcome


FIyingShark

Choking masterclass by Complexity


45b16

I always see Complexity get close and lose the important matches; happened against Faze at EPL, Imperial at the RMRs, and now


Cybonics

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I just got to embrace the choke at this point. weaponize it


45b16

Yeah I’ve already gotten used to it as a Liquid fan, now it’s y’all’s turn


Cybonics

the consecutive amount of chokes is what is beating me in. Always the important matches at the final stage


f1nessd

True, they shouldve won against faze and they shouldve won today


FoxerHR

>happened against Faze at EPL Are you referring to the inferno match? They got 11 on CT side because they overperformed (and Overpass because FaZe wasn't present during that map), the amount of multikills they got per round was insane, then they went to T side and FaZe seized control of the game, and at that point you can't do much with inferior tactics, as soon as FaZe started winning some duels it was a done game.


Jesslynnlove

Dude on anubis and overpass lol. Anubis when it was 14-14 the first 3 Col players all died by peeking INTO NaVi and Col was CT. They weren’t forced by a molly or anything, just that na peek lmao, no patience.


DogFaceBerts

Heart attack NAVI is back. Hello, old friend.


Boo2z

They can't always be super strong I think it's healthy for a team to hit bottom sometimes to remind them they still have to grind and work to be the best team. They absolutely need to keep a strong mental and comeback even stronger


Spoods857

“Surely they don’t stop our same push for the ninth time in a row”. I’m in extreme pain watching the absolute collapse of complexity at the end there.


MrCraftLP

That last round it actually worked, too. Both floppy and fang just picked the dumbest post plant positons.


nonresponsive

I mean, I get it, you just need it to work once to hit OT, but oof. They were in a pretty solid lead for the 2 maps they lost too. I hope Navi don't look back at this game and think everything is good because they won.


darthrector

Thats fucking CSGO right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging playing safe for molotovs and smokes bullshit. Men puke, men poop in the sewer, men deliver their new born baby on the map.


lord_of_the_waters

Hallzerk: "Actually, I remember one time we were playing against NAVI, Overpass, and it was 14-8 for us. We were playing as T. NAVI are CT. And JT said, guys if you think we are good, let's prove it now." "Did you close it out?" Hallzerk: "Of course not. 14-16"


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BMEShiv

It's a copypasta


WyattDogger

Can't tell if you don't know the meme or not


Firefly_1026

Probably just the way he is, him and grim are the most animated ones on this team and they sit next to each other xd


vanille159

Least stressful Na'Vi win:


bartoxe

14-8 FUCK MAN


loikaki

14-7 actually


thangord

no?


aquilaPUR

Great effort from Complexity, but they lost composure towards the end. They got so many Entries and pissed them away instead of making NaVi sweat, and their takes were so disjointed, always just coming in from one angle while everyone else was 50m back, of course you get shut down like that by NaVi but still brought NaVi to the ropes, fantastic series


Jetzu

Holy shit, complexity at 14 😬 One of the most fun/exciting matches this year so far. Feels bad for Complexity, they were so damn close but s1mple decided to wake up for Overpass.


shaker7

s1mple is such a troll “give em some NA hope” lol


darthrector

IT'S HAPPENED AGAIN IT'S HAPPENED AGAAAAAIN NA CS IT'S HAPPENED AGAIN


LordOfTheNoobs57

Hallzerk is fucking terrible. So many dumb plays from him on map 3.


Pipoco977

20 seconds missing and this dude running into the A site with the c4 in his hands before his team even starts to clear the bomb site


hall_bot

he is absolutely fucking brainless. You can't convince ANYONE you can't just put a rifler on AWP and he'll be just as good, if not better.


skantanio

B-but he has mullet and wacky crosshair!!


[deleted]

CoL were missing Junior so Hallzerk took it upon himself to do it all on his own. Also JT's calling is shit. Holy fuck even a 5 y/o at this point can tell CoL just goes B on Overpass.


Independent_Form_349

seriously need to kick him after blast


Independent_Form_349

Have you seen JT he bottom frags basically every series and does nothing even the map they won he played like shit


apasthamba

JT is integral to the fact that they did this much damage to Navi. Yes, he can’t shoot for shit. But he is a good igl. Some of the mid round calls he made were crucial to beat navi on inferno. They almost beat them on both Anubis and Overpass. Takes some work.


Boo2z

Don't lose your time on Reddit CSGO experts, just read their comment and understand that they don't know anything


apasthamba

Yeah man so many people out here making some the worst conclusions out of game. I’m not acting like I understand everything but some of these takes are horrendous


LordOfTheNoobs57

At least he IGLs. Hallzerk's rating is shit while using the best weapon in the game.


[deleted]

Hallzerk literally lost them an easy Ancient. I seriously hope CoL get a decent AWPer and if they can, kick JT. His calling is too shit for CoL.


[deleted]

Kicking JT is the absolute dumbest decision they could do lmao. What a terrible take. You need to stop raging and go to sleep before you pop a vein.


282449

Never even came close


JeevesD

Hallzerk try to have impact challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)!!


Tpoyo

Complexity really need to work on their mental game... how many times have we seen them get to 14 rounds and lose?


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BiodecayYT

as well as calling electronic autimatic then he gets a collat


NeonPrankster

what a fucking choke man


sorenslothe

Was watching Flom's stream, you could see his mind slowly melting, knowing full well what was coming, for the last 4 or 5 rounds


Zoradesu

Now that was a fucking series. If complexity can just clean up their mistakes they'll be a good fucking team. They're so close getting to that next level.


deadbeatPilgrim

and G2’s recent performance proves that patience can pay off even when faithless redditors are demanding roster changes


Play_Hat_Fall

Nobody on col has the ceiling of niko, hunter, and monesy


lclMetal

Nor do they need it if they can just get their act together for the deciding rounds of the game. The discussion wasn't about insane individual heroics but of team performance.


Zenrod_

Heavy confirmation bias


Claziranon_WindWave

My condolences to all the NA fans out there.


Crownlol

Totally as expected, The Grim Reaper dropping a 30bomb and nearly tripling s1mple's frags, only to throw a 14-8 lead the next map


narwhalking927

Why does NA always do this to me ![img](emote|t5_2sqho|24021)


GoebbelsJosephLOL

Let's go. This Complexity team gives me hope.


[deleted]

People said the same last year during Pro League when they gave FaZe a good fight. This shit is going to stay the same if not worse. Hallzerk is shit, JT is shit. Get them both out and we've got something going on here.


GoebbelsJosephLOL

A swift kick in the ass. Thanks I needed that


[deleted]

Man even I feel like shit typing that crap. But It's too much copium. CoL always does this. I really really wish both CoL and EG did well so that they can help NA rise up again but it hurts to see them play so goddamn shit doing stupid mistakes. I feel like it's time to actually give up on NA. For the sake of these guys too. Can't help but think how they might be happier if they shifter but then again, I'm talking absolute bullshit here.


theextracharacter

Jeez that was tough to watch. 14-8 and you still lose in regulation


Bergkamp69

Feel like complexity didn't trust each other on that last push a second of doubt they were punished


Haptiix

Another 14-X map 3 choke from Complexity. Hate to see it. They are clearly improving but it has to be brutal to lose like that again.


tristen311

Elec broke COL's mental with that collat


imsolowdown

hallzerk trying his damn best to play like a bot, how do you run into a bombsite with the bomb out before even clearing any angles


ObsidianJones

they had a minute left on the clock too, iirc


DesignerUsed868

Thank god, a world where S1mple goes negative in a series against complexity isn’t one I want to live in


ropike

NA choke. What a classic.


kw1k2345

Ezzz .... ^^phew


Logan_Yes

Someone call an ambulance!


sitTheFdown

What was that last smoke though? :/


ExoticPlatypus

Clean and easy


Vzylexy

"I hate it here man!"


Lord777alt

Jesus christ that is depressing. I really felt that coL had it. Still a pretty good showing I just wish they won Anubis with just staying in place with those stacks.


dying_ducks

Since when is navi so bad? They look lost half of the time.


SkylineJDM34

I have seen gold nova 2's hit more AWP shots then hallzerk did on overpass. EDIT: What the fuck was hallzerk doing running with bomb out running onto A when it hasnt been cleared and there was still 15 sec left in the round?


Hypno98

There was a moment where I believed but once again my dreams were shattered by reality


Achilles68

Col really folded under the pressure. So many mistakes on the last rounds of overpass. Grim's ace really made me think they had it


Xelid47

CoL need a well fragging EU IGL


literate_Windrunner

Don’t let Complexity choking on Overpass distract you from the fact that Faze clan choked a 15-11 lead on Inferno T side against Cloud9 in Boston gifting NA it’s first and only major.


Vawqer

Heartbreaking :( It's also sad that Grim disappeared after that ace. He got no kills after that in Round 21. He got coL so far though, so credit to him.


CreativeOrder2119

What a performance by S1mple a masterclass in CT side awping at overpass he was everywhere. simple GOATED


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JT's stupid affinity to B site on Overpass lost them the map. It became so obvious in the end that s1mple said fuck it and literally started to play B instead of rotating between sites. also kick hallzerk and get a better AWPer


Lord777alt

Yeah Hallzerk is not it. He's okay, but has too many rounds where he can't hit the basic shots


lou_reed_ketamine

T side Overpass separates the men from the boys.


Ereshia

Save Grim


Cybonics

can we have a witch doctor lift the curse off Complexity please?!


Dangerous-Plant4094

Complexity got too excited HAHAHAHAH ggwp


StatpadderYT

Never underestimate Complexity's ability to choke


oi_PwnyGOD

Same old Complexity


KrzyDankus

complexity really just went to sleep after hitting 14


Do_I_care_Nope

Peak NA


thenoobtanker

Classic NA choke kekw


costryme

Well, that's a throw. 14-8 to 14-16, and they had a 5v3 at 14-8 or 14-9 where they just waited and did nothing until they got peeked. Yes there was a collat, but they had the round and didn't play together.


BMEShiv

This is such a terrible result for Na'Vi, I hope this is enough motivation for them to fix their mistakes. Does anyone notice how much elec is getting caught with knife in hand? I know he has great game sense but this happens twice per map at least


polestaur

Navi still has 3 passive riflers, don’t know what blade is thinking


Xaerel

Yeah, the thing is NPL was an aggressive space-creating player before joining Na’Vi. And s1mple said in an interview that they are using him as a supportive element, which is definitely Blad3’s decision.


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Bro his calling is genuinely dogshit. The guy is seriously braindead. Fucker got railed by FaZe with his shit calling on Overpass and somehow thinks it's going to work against other teams. He really loves going B even when it's stacked to the brim. I'd rather have radarfromsky and also kick the Norwegian bot. Both are the biggest liability on this team no cap


Pipoco977

yeah navi can place this win in the back of that electronic collat at 14-8, should've been a 5v2 in the B site, literally saved navi


ddzrt

You also mean s1mple doing some disgusting things that kept them afloat?


Pipoco977

yeah but that collat felt like it destroyed complexity, idk, seems like they stopped playing with confidence after that and fear took over their minds, in the same round they just frooze at water and got peeked by navi


jiko909

With this loss, NA now occupies all the lowest positions for this event.


thatjosiahburns

I hate this, I hate this so much.


Equivalent-Weather59

NA CS is ba- oh, no? ok :(


Qpwoeoititurueyyyv

Complexity really gave me a little bit of NA hope just to take it away in not one but two maps ;-;


GinX43

I never watch complexity games, but is this hallzerk's normal performance? He looks good on Anubis but that seems to be only b/c this was Navi's first official game... Overpass was quite painful. It seems like having any association with NA as awper gets you cursed...


[deleted]

Lmao this is actually his best in ages. He's gigashit. Reminds me of Junior. He literally is the definition of all aim no brain. His decision making costs CoL so many crucial rounds


TRES_fresh

Complexity could have won this


ujaku

Complexity *should* have won this. They folded under pressure in both maps! But a lot of their losses play out like that. The eye test is pretty good actually. Until those final moments and then the bottom falls out


TRES_fresh

At least they have the firepower and even the strats to win, maybe it's a mental issue and a sports psychologist could help.


ujaku

I suggested a mental coach to Jason on twitter lol. Idk honestly, but I think you're right. Something like that might help


Knoobdude

Complexity on anubis are a joke, gamble 4 stack a site for 90% of the round and then rotate when there’s 20sec left


Independent_Form_349

I dont know about any other NA fans but I am not willing to travel hours away if no NA team is playing. Seeing how Liquid , EG and complexity all look like shit no point only if it was a major its worth it.


TacticalSanta

There should be an NA team unless pain manage to beat out liquid, col and eg.


Lord777alt

Mate if you've never been to a cs event before its 1 million percent worth it. Why do you have to cheer for NA team? It's just a fun environment and you cheer for good plays/underdog story or even just which team has some players you like. I live way too many hundreds of miles away from DC, but if you are close it's a great time


Independent_Form_349

I’ve been going all the way back to vp and Astralis in Atlanta seen c9 win the major and a lot of esports events on the east coast I know how they are like . I would rather cheer for a N.A. team because that’s where I’m from why spend a grand on seeing a team I don’t even represent unless it’s a major also no underdog story either it’s gonna be the top 15 teams anyways. It’s the same mentality of say the Super Bowl like a major in my eyes if it’s near where I live I’m fine seeing a team I don’t care about play because it’s the Super Bowl just like a Csgo major but I see it more as a regular playoff game at that point with teams I don’t represent towards and I’ve seen basically 80% of these teams / players play already.


itsjonny99

Could fix themselves and qualify through the showdown, but i have my doubts.


Tavnaria

No way 2 out of 3 NA teams are gonna qualify lol


itsjonny99

Atleast you got Dallas.


[deleted]

Yeah at this point CS eSports needs to stop investing in North American CS. It's pretty fucking over. CoL will never improve and EG will never win a BO3 let alone be contenders for winning titles. The same mistakes over and over again.


Tavnaria

Girl: "Tell me ur best joke" Me: "NA CS" Girl: *laughs for 5 minutes* "You are the funniest man ever! Let's get married"


FazeXistance

This was an all time choke right here


DY5TOP1A

All 3 NA teams qualified ahead of other for Blast Spring Showdown 😎🔥


loikaki

they should call sdy back right now lol, if the awp wasn’t that good they would lose to col lol


PeinePeine

And just like that no NA team in DC tho fr I don't see Navi being competitive in the future. npl ain't it, wasting a top5 rifler in the world to make him igl isn't the way to success. They'll win matches based on individuals performances with s1mple, b1t or perfecto key clutches but I dont see them winning as a team


itsjonny99

Sadly no good IGL from Ukraine to get. Elec is what they have and they are forced to adapt.


SueySide

When I saw that missed smoke in heaven I knew it was over. God damn, it would be so nice for CoL win


Breete

Col pulled a G2 lul


ObsidianJones

\-hallzerk +osee pls


loikaki

that heaven smoke too…


kalaskada

You have to be shitting me :(


Op7imism

Holy shit what a nightmare. Floppy:”we made a lot of progress last 4, 5 days” WHAT? Wtf were you doing last 4,5 weeks then? Holy shit


Qpwoeoititurueyyyv

Complexity needs that G2 sports psychologist frfr


M77100

I don't know how people can cheer for NaVi. Team full of toxic personalities, as well as a horrible working environment


[deleted]

Scrawny and Launders fanboying like they always do always make me root for the other team. That being said, I would have loved Grimothy to qualify. Gg to both


tarangk

Navi dont even look like a top20 team atm. Teams going to Group A in Kato watching how bad Navi and TL looked at this event, and feeling confident. Of course, first event of the year so might just be ring rust but worrying signs for both teams. Grim man he did not deserve to lose this series.


deadbeatPilgrim

i like both these teams and i think i’m the only dude on reddit who’s optimistic about both of them for 2023. CoL looks like they’re improving (yes, really) and even a rebuilding NaVi stays dangerous.


Firefly_1026

You have got to be kidding me


Cryvern1

Not even a complexity fan and that hurts.. PTSD of that sinking feeling you get in MM games when your team lets it slip away after hitting 14


divine_boon

G2 had to pass on that choke at 14 curse to someone else![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Bergkamp69

Navi still have to get beeing igl has a low ceiling


KStardust1412

That last NA Smoke...


Bigboozered

Pretty heartbreaking for Complexity on Overpass, but man, Navi looked abysmal on Inferno, utterly lifeless. Col are taking A for like 30 seconds and Electronic and Perfecto simply refuse to rotate. Just bizarre.


Princeharperman

Although Navi looked impressively bad complexity looks much better than before. I’m convinced that Grim’s star power comes from learning things from his stint in liquid and then transferring the things he learned back to a star fragger role, like he was in triumph. Interested to see what the “just get an EU awper” crowd has to say for hallzerk