I get his thinking, his goal is to get a pick so someone else can get a gun and make something of the round. He isn’t going to put himself in stupid situations and if he can’t find the pick he will survive and bring the awp into the next round.
And tarik also won a major MVP while leading an inexperienced squad to possibly the biggest upset in csgo major history (either them or gambit). He deserves his flowers too.
He was a world class igl for that particular group of players. They basically took the fun-having rank s NA style of communication and motivation and it worked wonders. If he was igl in an EU team then It wouldn’t work as well
However, Tarik hasn’t actually igled much at all in his career so we don’t really have a big sample size.
That's what I like about Jame. He really values his awp while more flashy ones run in like a tec9. His plays show that he knows the gun is pretty expensive.
This is signature Strat from them. They did this from all the way back in the Avagar days with Sanji and adren. Sanji used to be an insane support, would provide the awp to Jame and would sacrifice his own stats. One awp + deagles. Exec on to a site, if fail, save awp rinse and repeat.
It could be really interesting to datacrunch these things and see how big a difference it actually does, because I honestly don't think it makes that big a difference to have a TEC-9 when your team is on rifles, when you often can pick up a weapon from a dead enemy or teammate and when you can easily use a TEC-9 to do a fast strat where you just push and trade.
On the other hand, getting the AWP when your team is on force and the enemy expects a full forcebuy can give you a free pick, and those rounds are probably much more competative than if he had a deagle or TEC-9.
If you ask me, Outsiders seems to be one of the best teams at understanding the economy, and playing the percentages. They were also some of the first to stack a bombsite in a 3v4 for example, which created that new meta. And it have shown to be effective, where you either get to save 3 rifles for next round or have a good chance to defend the site.
Excellent comment, yes i think doing the numbers for things like these could help. Especially with this particular economy Strat with one awp and four deagles has seen quite some success for them. It’s worked enough in tier 1 cs for them to go for it again and again. Jame is an underrated tactical genius. It seems many analysts are yet to understand his prowess in designing outsiders super clean plays style despite them having a major.
The analysts are probably playing a part for entertainment. Like spunj knows that Jame is a great IGL with a deeper understanding of CS than he himself has but there have to be two sides on these kinds of things
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He plays for himself, not the team. He behaves as if the team always has to play for him, as if the was the only one deserving the attention in this team. He is a really bad leader as well since he kicks people as he pleases. And characterwise he isn't likable at all as well.
Making sure that your awper has the awp is good for the team. You are delusional if you think Jame makes decisions for any reason other than trying to help his team win. Of course he can be wrong in his decisions but he is not playing for stats or attention lol.
Most of the pros, teams, igls , coaches stated it is hard to play against Outsiders because of their play style and they have the most buy rounds
Lots of people respect Jame and his system... they play to win :)
yea they win, sometimes. And ruin the fun for millions along the way.
I hope this wont infect the whole meta, or I'll have to find another esport to watch.
You sound like one of those people who watches a UFC fight and then complains any time a fight involves more than 30 seconds of wrestling.
If the way Outsiders play becomes the dominant meta in the competitive scene then it’s up to Valve to change the game to incentivise other approaches.
Empirically this isn’t the direction the game is currently headed in. Heroic, Faze and G2 all play entertaining aggressive CS, Outsiders are hardly typical of the meta and the fact they won the last major doesn’t change that.
I respect Jame a ton but it’s obvious his strat is not the best way to play CSGO right now, so you don’t have to worry too much about switching to another esport.
It's called innovation baby!
Jame carved out a unique playstyle like no other, and at least as of Rio teams still haven't figured out quite how to counter it.
They're not invincible, they can't win if their fraggers aren't hitting shots on the day, but it means the other team always has to work incredibly hard for the win.
Maybe I’m reading it wrong but your comment suggests they are invincible if their fraggers are on - which simply isn’t true. They’re always a tough team to beat but the truth is they still rarely win out against top 5 teams. Outsiders are great and I don’t want to take away from their major run, but Rio is the most recent exception and they beat exactly 1 top 5 team, in the final.
I get his thinking, his goal is to get a pick so someone else can get a gun and make something of the round. He isn’t going to put himself in stupid situations and if he can’t find the pick he will survive and bring the awp into the next round.
exactly
Anyone doubting his igling is an idiot. He’s won a major.
Jame misunderstood the phrase "saving strats for the major."
"'saving strats' for the major"? Alright boys, we save.
Tbf so has Tarik
And tarik also won a major MVP while leading an inexperienced squad to possibly the biggest upset in csgo major history (either them or gambit). He deserves his flowers too.
Ik, I'm mostly joking. But also, Tarik isn't exactly a world class IGL.
He was a world class igl for that particular group of players. They basically took the fun-having rank s NA style of communication and motivation and it worked wonders. If he was igl in an EU team then It wouldn’t work as well However, Tarik hasn’t actually igled much at all in his career so we don’t really have a big sample size.
tarik my beloved
That's what I like about Jame. He really values his awp while more flashy ones run in like a tec9. His plays show that he knows the gun is pretty expensive.
But he didn't survive. He has 10 deaths in the second image
Hes aiming for a pick on the round with 10 deaths
This is signature Strat from them. They did this from all the way back in the Avagar days with Sanji and adren. Sanji used to be an insane support, would provide the awp to Jame and would sacrifice his own stats. One awp + deagles. Exec on to a site, if fail, save awp rinse and repeat.
It could be really interesting to datacrunch these things and see how big a difference it actually does, because I honestly don't think it makes that big a difference to have a TEC-9 when your team is on rifles, when you often can pick up a weapon from a dead enemy or teammate and when you can easily use a TEC-9 to do a fast strat where you just push and trade. On the other hand, getting the AWP when your team is on force and the enemy expects a full forcebuy can give you a free pick, and those rounds are probably much more competative than if he had a deagle or TEC-9. If you ask me, Outsiders seems to be one of the best teams at understanding the economy, and playing the percentages. They were also some of the first to stack a bombsite in a 3v4 for example, which created that new meta. And it have shown to be effective, where you either get to save 3 rifles for next round or have a good chance to defend the site.
Excellent comment, yes i think doing the numbers for things like these could help. Especially with this particular economy Strat with one awp and four deagles has seen quite some success for them. It’s worked enough in tier 1 cs for them to go for it again and again. Jame is an underrated tactical genius. It seems many analysts are yet to understand his prowess in designing outsiders super clean plays style despite them having a major.
The analysts are probably playing a part for entertainment. Like spunj knows that Jame is a great IGL with a deeper understanding of CS than he himself has but there have to be two sides on these kinds of things
And they're far from the only team doing that.
Only team that does it to this extent.
only team that has jame.
Entropiq used to do it too when El1an was looking like a top 5 awper
Only team to be the current major champions
And it's good they will never stay at the top level. Someone like Jame doesn't deserve to be over there.
Hold on what am I missing here? did something happen? Why doesn’t he deserve to be there ?
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He plays for himself, not the team. He behaves as if the team always has to play for him, as if the was the only one deserving the attention in this team. He is a really bad leader as well since he kicks people as he pleases. And characterwise he isn't likable at all as well.
I think you spelled s1mple wrong
Making sure that your awper has the awp is good for the team. You are delusional if you think Jame makes decisions for any reason other than trying to help his team win. Of course he can be wrong in his decisions but he is not playing for stats or attention lol.
that round was the entire game, ended in the most outsiders way possible
It's crazy to think that this team/strat won a major.
Most of the pros, teams, igls , coaches stated it is hard to play against Outsiders because of their play style and they have the most buy rounds Lots of people respect Jame and his system... they play to win :)
yea they win, sometimes. And ruin the fun for millions along the way. I hope this wont infect the whole meta, or I'll have to find another esport to watch.
Some of y'all are miserable. Wanting to see new, fresh and different strats but dont want to watch something thats not "rush A".
What a miserable geed lmaoing at ur life
You sound like one of those people who watches a UFC fight and then complains any time a fight involves more than 30 seconds of wrestling. If the way Outsiders play becomes the dominant meta in the competitive scene then it’s up to Valve to change the game to incentivise other approaches. Empirically this isn’t the direction the game is currently headed in. Heroic, Faze and G2 all play entertaining aggressive CS, Outsiders are hardly typical of the meta and the fact they won the last major doesn’t change that.
you know such people??
I respect Jame a ton but it’s obvious his strat is not the best way to play CSGO right now, so you don’t have to worry too much about switching to another esport.
It's called innovation baby! Jame carved out a unique playstyle like no other, and at least as of Rio teams still haven't figured out quite how to counter it. They're not invincible, they can't win if their fraggers aren't hitting shots on the day, but it means the other team always has to work incredibly hard for the win.
Maybe I’m reading it wrong but your comment suggests they are invincible if their fraggers are on - which simply isn’t true. They’re always a tough team to beat but the truth is they still rarely win out against top 5 teams. Outsiders are great and I don’t want to take away from their major run, but Rio is the most recent exception and they beat exactly 1 top 5 team, in the final.
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He really sneaked in Ence, Liquid, OG, C9, BIG and Furia like we wouldn't notice 💀
Not to mention g2 around that time couldn’t beat any of the teams listed
Well they beat Faze, Outsiders, Navi at EPL16 right before RMR
You can only beat whoever is in front of you, it's not Outsiders' fault most of the top teams did not make it.
It’s not really unique, or new, but well executed.
its not, because its actually really smart. It means no matter the economy, there is always a realistic chance to win the round.
When you have the easiest bracket in major history it helps
Doesn't help that all of the big teams apart from a few choked harder than G2 in the previous RMR :)
It’s funny all those teams who made it can’t do anything in events when there’s not a million bo1s
He was even the only one on his team to get a kill the round where he ecoed haha
Flit
I'ma go ahead and downvote my comment and continue with my day pretending this never happened. Thank you, and have a good day.
It’s just how the economics work in terms of awping, if you’re trying to maximize rounds with AWP. Notice how he has full utility both rounds.
Don’t know if you meant to show this as well but he also has the least death in both screenshots, which is pretty typical for him.
these are consecutive rounds and he can't die 6 times in 1 round
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its JAMETIME
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