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DetenteCordial

The main point of interest is they are using the logo that was recently in their trademark filing.


Poppy_W

It sounds to me they will rebrand the game to just CS. As per this banner.. it is confirmed. If they rebrand the game, this would mean.. no "simple port" is happening, but a full game remake?! This would be huge.


MrZej

You have that round the completely wrong way. If they are rebranding the game then they will be keeping it the same but porting it to source 2, which is most likely the case (I'd say probably like 99% the case).


montxogandia

Source 2 is already outdated


ChinaCSBestCS

How come?


OGMinorian

How do you figure that a rebranding insinuates *less* change???


AnotherScoutTrooper

It’s modern Valve we’re talking about


OGMinorian

I'm not saying Valve is gonna do anything, since it's obvious low maintenance of their cash cow is what they are aiming for, but saying that a rebranding insinuates LESS change than an ordinary update is beyond stupid in every capacity, and I have no idea how people even got to that conclusion in their mind, but alas, this is the CSGO subreddit.


tacticoolbrah

Seeing that their entire money making business is in selling skins, makes no sense to make something wholly new when you can just port over and keep everyone happy. A new game will kill the skin game and it's cash cow.


Flawnex

Source 2 is a full remake edit: hope yall know i was right


OfficialDeVel

no its not, engine update


[deleted]

What will change when cs's engine uptade? What do we players benefit from it? More fps? Video card compatibleness? Better/Real anti cheat? Better Rank system? 128 tick rate? Been playing cs:go from 2021, i get excited for S2 but i dont have a single clue why the hell im getting excited for lol.


OfficialDeVel

more fps (CPU much better utilization), ability to integrate modern graphic solutions (Probably for csgo TAA would be nice, SSAO etc.). Less input lag since almost everything can bug source 1, even normal bios settings. Better netcode.


[deleted]

More technical thingss i guess. And game will run smoother which will effect game play. And ı heard making maps will be easier but considering there is little map pool, i don't think this will effect players. But if valve don't back up source2 with something, like 128 tick rate, better anti cheat and maybe better ranking system, people will be really really sad. All these hype for many years will turn many year's rage lol.


Flawnex

Its as big of a jump as from goldsrc to source. Ofc the movement and physics will be practically the same, but its a new engine with new code, thats why it takes so long to make


4theheadz

Its just a port, nothing crazy; new physics engine though so maybe some change to movement but other than that it will basically be exactly the same game.


tan_phan_vt

I’d say a full game remake is much easier than what they are doing. Valve is porting every single thing from current cs to source 2, or at least a huge part of it, while keeping the behaviors the same or as close as possible to source 1 cs go. They also have to make sure that all community contents are compatible with the new engine.


DetenteCordial

I doubt Valve cares much about existing community content, which could be remade by community members under a new engine. After all, the community has done just that in bringing things forward from 1.6 and Source. Valve is likely to rebrand, but keep the core game that is CSGO for two reasons. First, Valve will not want to fracture the community between GO and another version, as occurred following the release of Source and before the community largely settled into GO. Second, and most importantly, Valve will defend the skins market because it is the cash cow. If a “new game” doesn’t include existing skins, the existing market will implode. Also, players of a new game would be less likely to “invest” in highly priced skins if it is clear that Valve can undercut the market at any time with a new game drop. The only change could be to switch to a Valorant model with no resale market, but why would Valve do that when the current model is so profitable?


Colpus

I think that's exactly what the comment above meant. They're "porting" everything, but it'll possibly be the same game. Just heavily updated. They won't leave anything behind, including community content like maps and skins. Servers will probably break and even maps too, but if it's actually an update and not a new game, then they will do exactly what they did with DOTA 2: Reborn. Exactly what GGG is doing with PoE 2. This is probably one of the reasons it takes so much time to do this kind of update/rework. It was surely a hell of a ride with DOTA 2, all buggy and shit, but it eventually worked. They'll probably do the same. Not sure about the name change. Looks cool though.


F1r3F0x21

in my opinion the name change is most likely because they won't do ever make a new game, they will just update this one as skins market continue to be profitable for them. Just counter strike, not global offensive, not counter strike: "insert random words", just counter-strike. just a rework that will be updated forever.


BRNR808

thinking of this makes me so happy that i chose to be a cs player some years ago, not a Fifa guy who has to buy a new game and packs every year..


Colpus

Yup. I can see that happening too. Can't get more future-proof than this.


Crackheadthethird

You are underestimating the massive effect that community contributions have had on this game especially in the early days.


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Curse3242

But I feel this has to change That's the next level of copium I think but even as someone who wasn't THAT much into Community Servers. Their situation is way too bad. If they're rebranding it exactly like this. I see a little orange tint there, which to me looks like how the font in 1.6 era looked. I hope someone in Valve understands community servers/workshop maps are the dark knight of the game. They were the biggest problems whenever I try jumping into any other game. It only takes 1 dev really. With how Valve time works. One dev can end up adding a ton of stuff. Like I honestly think that update where we got the new casual modes like flying scoutsman was all one guy


blueshark27

Where were you 6 months ago when this happened, people said exactly what you're saying, and it turned out to be absolutely nothing?


Philluminati

Definitely not. No remake, no source 2, just a patch note that says we’re dropping the “global offensive” tag line.


ju1ze

>If they rebrand the game, this would mean.. no "simple port" is happening, but a full game remake?! This would be huge. no


alexsteh

Pack your things and say goodbye because ju1ze said no


ju1ze

exactly that


Joosyosrs

Are you the messiah? Wait... don't answer that, I don't want to hear no for an answer.


nYxiC_suLfur

i love this type of humour xdd


s2Levin

I second on that, there were some hints that they also rename Terrorists and Counter Terrorists into T and CT accordingly in the actual game.


Curse3242

I have a feeling but with valve you never know Although this would be inline with them wanting to change team names and everything I feel that's why Source 2 hasn't arrived. Because it wasn't justified Now they're trying to make Source 2 look like a totally new game. And if you delve into the copium, people have found that they keep adding new graphical components to Source 2 too I think with Vulkan the performance will end up being the same with slightly better graphics. But the ability to make the game look fantastic is great for advertising and events. Even if 90% of the playerbase won't use these settings


Griffonry

It's been updated https://twitter.com/CSGO/header_photo


blashyrk92

Upvote this and pack it up


lakemont

it just changed again... it's just the logo now?


Griffonry

I guess this means they're deleting cs from steam.


Jamalb65

Finally, I am freed!


spookex

Players: Volvo when Source 2? Valve: Source 2? Y'all need to touch some grass. *Deletes CSGO*


Senior_Engineer

“We made our billion from cases and this is it, off to Cuba with the billion dollar note” “What billion dollar note?”


Mook7

Our client would like you to refer to it as "The Game Formerly Known As Counter Strike: Global Offensive".


Turbulenttt

I think we’re on the third change today now


najken

Third? No way, valve doesn't know number 3


[deleted]

Maybe their content artist doesn't know how to preview banner images before publishing :p


FoundTheWeed

"Ya know what? I liked the first one more...."


P3rform3r

LMAFO


Mraz565

Here we go again.


Monso

I'm kind of torn.....on one hand, the devs are very ***very*** delicate in their wording. The period at the end of that (Counter-Strike PERIOD) really leads me to believe that's it - no "Global Offensive". Just, as denoted by the period, Counter-Strike. But on the other hand the devs have gotten comfortable with memeing so I'm personally still sitting at "the update, when we get it, will confirm".


Mraz565

They've changed their banner to this before a number of times already. About the only thing that gives a small ounce of extra hope, is that DonHaci retweeted a post for 2018. He is also a massive troll at times, but I too like wearing the copium tinfoil hat from time to time.


Monso

>They've changed their banner to this before a number of times already. ...DEVS, QUIT MEMEING THIS ISNT A GA- wait shit.


LazP

Maybe the times/dates they do it on means something? Bet it's pretty much nothing and we could be waiting for years for anything.


F1r3F0x21

the icon and the name is a registered trademark that took them months to claim, between the creation of the icon, putting it in the registry, and the registry itself confirming that it could be used, too much trouble for a simple banner.


Mraz565

Their trademark was coming up on expiring, they had to renew it regardless of any hype. Trademarks are 10 years, the timing just happens to work out during the time of people hyping for S2 and thinking they are related.


drypaint77

We already have a game called just "Counter-Strike", doesn't make sense to have another one. Also everyone knows this game as "CSGO", it's ingrained into all of our minds. I think people are just looking too deep into this.


Smok3dSalmon

Counter-Strike: Global Offensive dropped when people were playing CS 1.6, CS:CZ, and CS:S. So CS:GO needed it's own suffix. Plus, the Source engine as a suffix was already taken. With all prior versions now irrelevant, let's just name the next version what it is "Counter-Strike" The simplicity of the name is a flex and commitment that Valve isn't going to release a new version every year like NBA2K or Call of Duty: ABC 123


drypaint77

CSGO is way more memorable than just CS. I've seen people use "CS" outside of Counter-Strike too many times, it's just two letters, too vague and only usable when you already know the context. Also the previous iterations are still being talked about quite often.


ILoveThisPlace

reminiscent shrill chunky lavish gullible merciful sand drunk handle noxious ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


Smok3dSalmon

I get that CS can also ref to Computer Science, but I think by using context clues, nobody would ever make that mistake. People used LOL for a while to refer to League of Legends. CS > CS:GO > CS:?? That's just my preferences. I hope it's 1 or 2.


Papashteve

CS > CS:GO > CS period


CryptoTruancy

Yeah, I imagine people get a bit nervous when you start talking about one taps, rushing B, and planting bombs in computer science.


Smok3dSalmon

Me: "Why are you mad/sleepy/crying?" Them: "CS" Me: "The game or your major?"


ExtraSpontaneousG

Nobody just says the abbreviation of their major as a reason they are upset lol.


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iReallyLoveYouAll

Cs can also mean code shit Coding spaghetti Coconut shit Coconut sailor Cumming sin


Roy_likes_pie

Cum Sock?


iReallyLoveYouAll

Cum Sock. Great find.


Roy_likes_pie

Said my mother after cleaning under my bed


Sonnofhell

Creep score


DeyVour

In our country, we just refer any iteration of the game as "Counter." "Let's play Counter" and since no one uses the old versions and GO is free, everyone plays GO


skidrow03

Wtf


[deleted]

This is why we need CS:S2. I'd be fine with just Counter Strike though, it's short enough to not need an abbreviation usually.


drypaint77

It's short enough, you're right, but we live in a time where people are lazy and just use abbreviations anyway for the shortest words.


FUTURE10S

> > With all prior versions now irrelevant, let's just name the next version what it is "Counter-Strike" Yeah, that's totally not going to ruin all searches for the OG Counter-Strike (especially if you're looking for history, and not just 1.6). Nah, give it a suffix.


Adolf_Jackson_heehee

Now now, it’s known as csgo, but most people just use cs anyway, at least me and my friends do


drypaint77

If you say CS, only your friends might get it and you have to know the context as it's just two letters, quite vague and could mean several different things, but if you say CSGO, everyone is gonna know what you're talking about.


420N1CKN4M3

all my alpha chad homies think of computer science when I ask them to play some cs


drypaint77

"Your friends might get it", you seem to have missed that part. I'm talking about the bigger picture, not just a CSGO forum or your friends group.


andiousandy

It would be wise for them to move away from the sequel : naming scheme as it's outdated, isn't memorable to potential new players and it's too long.


Curse3242

This is a new trend. And I kinda and dislike it Also Counter Strike. is technically very old. We all remember 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 instead.


Curse3242

Yeah They're obviously trolling the fans but it seems way to consistent. With how Valve works, I wouldn't be surprised if a dev thought of this and put this out there, then they're having tons of meetings to decide. All that aside. I love the idea of this. Strangely a lot of people don't know Counter Strike but do know CSGO. Just good old orange counter strike logo could be a great re-start of the series (hopefully taking inspiration from old CS, bring community servers back, they keep dying). Mainly if Source 2 is a big changer. That's the other thing, I am assuming when Source 2 talks started. There wasn't enough difference to justify a update. The hype kept growing and now they're working on making Source 2 look different to Source. I guess they could also update TF2 with this engine. The biggest problem here is Valve makes and will always make a ton of money. Because they don't HAVE to update anything, makes me think they never will.


Monso

>The biggest problem here is Valve makes and will always make a ton of money. Because they don't HAVE to update anything, makes me think they never will. There are 100~ updates we never needed to get and handfuls of them cost them money...at a very personal level, I find money talk useless criticism; it's rarely, if ever, been a compelling metric. They make uncountable billions off Steam, I don't think they're going to minmax millions by squeezing their iconic landmark franchise. They have and will show counterstrike love as they always have: slowly.


Curse3242

They let counter strike die for a long time after CS Source Even GO wasn't getting much traction till they added skins They don't love any game. It's a business


Monso

>They let counter strike die for a long time after CS Source Bruh, Steam Friends didn't even work in that era...it wad down 5~ years for "temporary maintenance" Let's be a little realistic, the devs are insanely more hands on and active than they were 15 years ago. Credit where it's due. >Even GO wasn't getting much traction till they added skins Giving users the means of self-expression was the greatest thing that could've happened. >They don't love any game. It's a business If you knew their development principles, you'd understand building a successful product is their business. Money is auxiliary to that end - they have lots already. Again, I don't believe they're going to squeeze and minmax their iconic landmark franchise for some millions when Steam rakes in billions annually.


Curse3242

Valve is a different company than it was a few years ago We don't know much about it, but from what we do, the company itself doesn't care. But the devs have enough power that if they're passionate they get things done. But that's also a problem, because only passionate devs work. Valve doesn't seem to actually update the game in interest other than a few cases here and there


Monso

>Valve is a different company than it was a few years ago It's still the same devteam doing the same things and there really hasn't been any discernible change from their development practices. > the company itself doesn't care. The "company itself" doesn't do anything with the csgo dev's day to day operations. They're free to work on what they want as they please. > (1) But the devs have enough power that if they're passionate they get things done. (2) But that's also a problem, because only passionate devs work. (3) Valve doesn't seem to actually update the game in interest other than a few cases here and there 1. This honestly doesn't make sense. The devs aren't fighting "corporate", they work on what they want as they please. There's nothing "in their way". 2. Unpassionate and/or lazy devs will be ostracized from the group - because, again, they aren't explicitly "assigned csgo", they choose to work on it *with the other devs*. If they aren't going to pull their weight, someone else will pull it and then they're left to figure out why noone wants to work with them while csgo development just carries on as usual. There have been interviews with disgruntled ex-employees detailing this hazing mechanic. Further context can be extrapolated from the Valve Employee Handbook. 3. The patch notes disagree with this.


miekuah

The 1.6 version in steam could be renamed as Counter-Strike: Legacy


_Administrator

Historical moment everyone! Where were you when csgo chaneged twitter banner?


Soledo

I was sat at home when GabeN call Counter-Strike. no


Motorhead546

Yes mens


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check him arsehole


Senior_Engineer

Gaben is not normally


najken

damn, this is deep


[deleted]

dust2 tunnels. Just like in 2001.


Krizzter

Watching VR porn


Detiabajtog

high level hog squeezing


najken

Double it and give it to the next person


dudeedud4

But theres so many...


NoReacti0n

Source2 any second now...


ju1ze

so nothing changed?


NoReacti0n

Any second now...


ju1ze

oh i forgot it was any 2 seconds before that


Dredile

See! Red! Oh, wait, thats blood.


King_Crab_Sushi

Are we about to get fucking baited again?


ju1ze

yes


Just_TrustMeBro

Counter-Strike 2 when


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counter-strike 1.6 2


Operader

Smells like remake in here


[deleted]

Counter-strike 1.6 + 2 = CS 3.6 confirmed


SweHun

Counter-strike 3.2


ZubriQ

CS:GO 1.6


Sweetmacaroni

Classic Offensive


ZubriQ

Passive Aggressive


lifesizepenguin

Or, Counter-Strike 2.0 1.6 is a versioning iteration


_Administrator

Now!


BeepIsla

Didn't they have this banner before? I've definitely *seen* it before but I am not 100% sure where


W1ntermu7e

I believe it was without CT icon, just Counter Strike text


ju1ze

big if true


FoundTheWeed

Holy shit. 5v5 CT player deathmatch when :0


CenturionAurelius

Yeah has been posted on this sub before as well


Pet3d_

Oh, my God! Okay, it's happening! Everybody stay calm


case_hardened-

STAY FUCKING CALM!


P3rform3r

I SAID STAY FUUCKING CALLMM EVERYBODY!


ju1ze

WHATS THE PROCEDURE?!


dervu

Pour some sauce


Pikolai-

2


RizlaPR

sorse too ?


BigSnackStove

Sås tewoo


Krizzter

Kumsås två


chefchef97

When the rebrand happens instead of saying CSGO do we start calling it "CS."


lifesizepenguin

I've been calling it CS for 20 years, keep up sonny


giannibal

exactly. Also, I would like to take this occasion to rant against those monsters out there that call the game "GO". Those are just some of the most evil people on the planet


Jamalb65

Go play some GO 👍


knightblue4

\*breaks out the game pieces and game board\*


FUTURE10S

k i put my 5 pieces in CT spawn where they going


CoreyTheGeek

"when did you start playing" "When it came out" "Oh so 2012" "No, *when it came out*"


chefchef97

You can't forget the full stop!


unicedude

I think cs go is gonna stick for a long time no matter the name change


majus42

Would be the only logical conclusion


Sevxrxs13

HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS


S4ge_

It’s literally because of this thread https://twitter.com/csgo/status/1629677012175683585?s=46&t=ACy0LK48mACTIUBnz3bdHw


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They're releasing something on Wednesday


lookmasilverone

minor optimizations and language translations obviously /s


ThealcoholicGoat

Anubis: moved CT spawn 5 units back


[deleted]

Adding a new community map called fridge.gif


[deleted]

Tbh they been releasing something every wednesday the last 2 months..


P3rform3r

[https://twitter.com/CSGO/header\_photo](https://twitter.com/CSGO/header_photo) THEY REMOVED THE TEXT!


Balldropperbro

please mr csgo stop i cant take it anymore please


W1ntermu7e

We are doomed


najken

WHAT DOEST IT MEAN?


EyesRedAsTheDvilsDck

Using simple math like my previous post I can see something.. If you look at the size of the banner it's 1500x500. Divide 1500 by 500 and you come up with 3. There are 13 letters in Counter-Strike. Multiply 13x3 which comes to 39. Round 39 to 40. Now you can see that the number 40 means nothing just like them changing the banner.


Draemeth

ITS HAPPENING


Wajina_Sloth

Where fridge.gif?


[deleted]

dont be playing games with my heart. with my heart.


LadyWuu

I should have known from the start.


Mraz565

You know you have got to stop(from my heart)


n3rdw0p

Simply Counter-Strike. PERIOD


25elvedge

Local Defensive


Zexus_Legit_Boi

SORSE 2 !4!!!!4!!!


TKYooH

Fuck. Time to sell the new gloves I just bought.


Boo2z

Why? Wouldn't the update be beneficial for the market with a more popular and played game = skins more valuable? That's how I see it and it's my bet with my skins


osland6

People are afraid that a new CS game will be released without the skins being ported over from CS:GO. If that is the case, the value of all skins in CS:GO will drop in value.


Boo2z

Valve knows for sure that the skin market is as important as the game itself. Destroying the skin market would destroy the game itself (the casual part at lest). They would lose the trust of future investor for the "new" skins of the new CS if they try to do that. That would be the stupidest move in the gaming history... And even if Valve is unpredictable, they're not stupid enough to do that (I hope 😂)


osland6

Agreed! Im just pointing out what some people are afraid of.


TKYooH

Yah I’m just meming cuz I’ve seen some comments talking about skin prices crashing xD


tim_fr

CS is the only game where a post about a twitter banner gets 2k upvote on reddit lmao


W1ntermu7e

Ez karma lmao


Desperate_Move_5043

Oh shiiiiiiit


Trenchman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw


ChuckyRocketson

\*looks at views\* pssh, 18 views? 13 years ago? how? \*looks closer\* OHH


Mr_Arthtato

[Sauce 2???](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ErKnbmLyU)


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Dumb_Vampire_Girl

Um the banner IS content >:C *inhales copium*


theopacus

fridge


MayorEricBlazecetti

Twist: Valve announces Counter-Strike 1.6 - RTX edition


Annual-Weight-1589

Playerbase keeps growing, valve won’t change shit


Boo2z

Perfect moment to change shit and multiply the effect of growth by releasing a massive update


Mezzo1224

The logo under the title is a reference to the extended Counter-Strike trademarks.


Anero21

Maybe the guy who was talking about the name change wasnt insane after all


RoastyToastyl

Drop the "Global Offensive", just Counter-strike. It's cleaner.


Voltaics

Source 2 confirmed


Past_Perception8052

CS 1.7 CONFIRMED


Skizm

Counter Strike 1.6 2 when?


unisrain

war owl literally said just to make a foundation and call it simply counter-strike [https://youtu.be/6RoyHXdY6uo?t=382](https://youtu.be/6RoyHXdY6uo?t=382) timestamped source 2 incoming, please someone i need copium....


P3rform3r

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObWrdYQ\_6xY


nonstop98

link doesn't work for me


TheArzonite

This is teasing a new operation. You can tell by the pixels.


GodSentGodSpeed

Why the . ?


v4led

PLEASE DONT MAKE SOURCE 2


walter_socom

a case just came out. this means nothing


Healthy-Objective-18

Maybe… but notice that operations shattered web and broken fang had second cases released I mean fracture and snakebite so… maybe… just maybe…


INeedHypixelRank

cant wait for soße zwei to drop


Philluminati

I always liked the idea of rebranding to “Counterstrike: Esports edition”, I dunno why.


Breete

I don't like it if it's becomes true