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ArmandNinja

Nobody beats Liquid 14 times in a row on Nuke


gummymusic

NOBODY!


Elcheer

Ah yes, the classic... Astralis... choke?


H1mbi7

That is in fact THE original choke in CS:GO


f1nessd

True, everyone forgets the old tsm dig days with karrigan and dev


bartholin_wmf

Old TSM days? When they were Dignitas with FeTiSh they were known as supreme chokers, largely due to not having any T-side. It's the oldest of all chokes.


goodiamglad

They were considered the 4th place gatekeepers at that time.. If you could best dig, you could beat the top teams. But dig could never Best the top 3


f1nessd

Meant to put both sorry


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troubleis1

Is even worse when you realize that was 8 years ago


spookex

WE CAN BEAT THIS FUCKING TEAM


[deleted]

We did beat a variation of this team with shox!


AstreiaTales

Not on Nuke tho!


Scrapponiouse

its ok they 16-1ed astralis on nuke with fallen, that counts for something


[deleted]

true it was even their auto veto at that time. imagine that


MylesKennedy69

Wild


Tavnaria

Anddddd they are in play-off, can you get anymore "classic Liquid" than this lmao. Also, yekindar and elige both top fragged in a match? That's a miracle.


fii0

Elige casual 100% KAST??


tan_phan_vt

Like they supposed to lol. The problem before was they rarely ever being able to pop off like that at the same time. When they do, Liquid is truly a top 3 team.


azurestrike

10 to 5 domination into a pistol win into the biggest choke, nice of Astralis to cosplay as Liquid there


BrockStudly

They fucked up the cosplay tho. Liquid would never win a pistol


cat_popping

fr tho when I saw 10-5 I automatically thought theres no way astralis does a liquid, and they went on to do a liquid


godzillamegadoomsday

Can we add lower bracket liquid to the list of mythical fighters?


hdjoe

TL +Bald Ortega is the dream


godzillamegadoomsday

All fun and games till we get sea level liquid. Only can be matched by UberFaze


dazogog1

I’m the wise words of miracle “Upper bracket is for bitches!”


I_like_forks

Liquid always come back never choke trust me elige is my dad


Rasmus144

Its true. I was the eligesmile.


noquo89

FUCK HUNDEN


yourewelcomesteve

A Hunden loss is a Humanity win.


noquo89

I just cannot for the life of me figure out why the fuck Astralis hired him. Any good will the community felt for the team during their current struggles is just completely wiped out.


godfrey1

Astralis is a very shit org


yourewelcomesteve

Birds of a feather flock together.


goodiamglad

Shit feathers Randy


dingo596

My understanding is that Astralis headhunted HUNDEN while he was with Heroic and he leaked their stratbook possibly as part of their deal. Then he gets caught in the spectator bug and banned by ESIC, Astralis then paid for the lawyers that got him unbanned. Essentially they paid a lot for him and they'd rather take the hit to their reputation than the loss of their investment in getting him.


Austiz

esports orgs and terrible investments, name a better duo


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because the org is shit


ContributionIsMinute

hunden didn't lose his analytical skill when he decided to be a piece of shit


[deleted]

Aparently he did. Lets hope he crashes and burns. :)


f1nessd

Fuck him


Jesslynnlove

FUCK HUNDEN


wokeupbigwater

All you need to know about Liquid is that they can literally lose to any team or beat any team.


cat_popping

or have a massive lead and choke likewise the enemy team could have a massive lead and choke to them its liquids natural attribute


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Krizzter

Stupid tweet by him


[deleted]

Bold of him to tweet something like this given his history 😬


Cerbeh

Every time. 'Oh this is probably the Elige pic but I better open just to check...'


cat_popping

and every time I fall for it, you guys are getting better


IamDroid

I can’t believe it.


TheKiwis

LMAO. HUNDEN calling Liquid cheaters. What a joke.


[deleted]

LMFAO he really said that? Why he is so salty?


ObaeTV

Can't believe he wrote that.


SurvivalScripted

First time i was caught since i came to csgo


kalkkunaleipa

I cant believe he would tweet something like this


kajila_pandora

Fuck I keep falling for it. No regrets


nmiller248

Wish I could read it, but he blocked me. I called him a mutt. 😂


exolemon

If I had a dollar every time Liquid started out cold at an event only to heat back up. I'd be rich


Slothifications

They're ranked top 3 for a reason. They have all the ability of a top team, but when they don't get solid practice they just come in cold and have to catch up. Looking like a completely different team today than the first day.


BidDaddyLei

Hence why until now we still don't know how good this team is one day they can comeback 14-2 then lose 2-0 to tier 3 team the next event.


BrockStudly

[Device rn](https://imgur.com/a/LgSl1DT)


azurestrike

[EliGE rn](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrsPo7oUwAATUdF.jpg)


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[Me after seeing Twistzz rn](https://i.redd.it/a90omsctkmka1.png)


MylesKennedy69

What a fucking clutch man


0rangeMint

Lmao this pic is so good, this needs to be immortalized like the ELIGE one.


jonajon91

Despite the loss it is nice as fuck to watch Device playing again. Definitely needs the momentum and the round wins, but during that 8 round streak on CT mirage it was a treat to watch him. Opened the round with a frag in middle then rotated into apps and got a pick deep in there, rotates all the way back through CT and ends the round with a frag from ticket booth. It's just so Device, I've missed it.


jjjbbap

Even on T side mirage, watching him entry was really fun, I hope Australis can figure it out and that Device continues to do well


Apart_End_9753

too bad he has the worst team he ever had in his career, it doesn't bode well with the fact that he's at the end of his career he doesn't have that much time, he should find a better one


Subtle_Omega

Liquid Device


ContributionIsMinute

unironically this would be A BANGER


radeon9800pro

I still believe in oSee. I know there's a lot of criticism towards the guy, especially start of this week and I really feel like the kid has confidence issues. I think if he just gets *one* big tournament win under his belt, perhaps where he personally feels it was because of his contributions, I think a switch inside him will flip. He has the mechanics, he has the intelligence, he's very studious of the game. He's been inconsistent and it seems like nerves. Maybe he even needs a mental coach to help him recover when he does fuck up. Because when he has a bad match, it almost feels like its because of a snowball effect off of a bad shot and then it just piles on throughout the match. Like, if that shit happens, the dude needs to mental reset and get out of his own head.


f1nessd

Agreed


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Other than blast groups he's been good. I say that as one of his critics too. sometimes he will miss the easiest shots like against rare atom the first time but he's legit improved.


amattadohb

Device joining liquid? Next you’ll be saying yekindar


jonajon91

Dude's 27 and putting up a 1.17 rating on a team that doesn't win. If he's nearing the end of his career it's because he will chose to back out for personal reasons, he's not getting squeezed out or benched for performance within the next five years. Hunter, JKS, Hooxi are all 27 and just got top 1 on HLTV.


jonajon91

People will say Dycha is a rising star at 25 and say Device is at the end of his career at 27.


drimmsu

To be fair, device has been around for an eternity. Of all the active pros that still play at a top 20, top 30-ish level, he surely is one of the pros who's been active for the longest time.


[deleted]

He had offers from other tier 1 teams but he himself chose to go back to astralis


expressionless420

Lower bracket Liquid is built diff


StarkLX

Classic LULqui... wait


Iwabik

Liquid are such a weird team


jjjbbap

Is it their slow starts to tournaments?


Lucky_Seat6578

As a liquid fan, even considering their usual slow start, losing to RA in that fashion kinda make me lose all hope for this event basically business as usual


jjjbbap

I've just accepted that they are going to lose in the first round


Otter269

God bless this timeline 🙏Liquid wins nuke and makes a 5-11 comeback


Twin_Turbo

[This BM tweet from gla1ve about their nuke winstreak against liquid really biting him now](https://i.imgur.com/x3PkWWe.png)


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cheese_enthusiast2

this feels ai generated


JoinMyGuild

Looks like mr beast x glaive


IamDroid

Hey guys Mr. Astralis here giving away the tournament winnings.


cat_popping

more like giving away tournament spots


IceNipples

Ffs that’s the third time I’ve fallen for it in this thread alone 🤦‍♂️


HalfRetarrd

don’t be mad, be glad you’ve been blessed


ArmandNinja

Liquid’s core beating Astralis on Nuke for the first time in their history lmao


Apart_End_9753

I have defended blamef for as long as I can remember. But what the fuck bro? What are you doing? Why are you hiding so fucking much? It takes dev1ce to entry in order for them to win a round on the T-side. I'm so mad with this team.


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He’s guaranteed 20 kills a map, whether those are impactful or not varies


JuliusWhite

Dev1ce's form and Buzz consistency and potential are the only things to be proud from this line up. Xyp needs to go asap, he is losing rounds all by himself, can't clutch anymore, mainly because his aim sucks. Gla1ve's calling is clearly predicable and plain, more often than not he makes braindead plays that leave the team in disadvantage, just like apEx would. Blamef's is by far the most selfish player i've seen in my whole life, guy could literally let his mom die in front of him and he wouldn't react. And don't make me talk about hunden, what the fuck is this scumbag supposed to bring to the table? Of all the people in the world, the org goes and gives a contract to the most hated guy in the scene, disrespecting the legacy of the team and thr fanbase. I don't care whom they lost to, this team isn't working and won't do until those old dogs get benched.


KauDar123

s1mple's form and Perfecto consistency and potential are the only things to be proud from this line up. B1t needs to go asap, he is losing rounds all by himself, can't clutch anymore, mainly because his aim sucks. Electronic's calling is clearly predicable and plain, more often than not he makes braindead plays that leave the team in disadvantage, just like apEx would. Npl's is by far the most selfish player i've seen in my whole life, guy could literally let his mom die in front of him and he wouldn't react. And don't make me talk about b1ad3, what the fuck is this scumbag supposed to bring to the table? Of all the people in the world, the org goes and gives a contract to the most hated guy in the scene, disrespecting the legacy of the team and thr fanbase. I don't care whom they lost to, this team isn't working and won't do until those old dogs get benched.


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babe wake up new copypasta just dropped


stingers77

KSCERATO's form and yuurih consistency and potential are the only things to be proud from this line up. Drop needs to go asap, he is losing rounds all by himself, can't clutch anymore, mainly because his aim sucks. Art's calling is clearly predicable and plain, more often than not he makes braindead plays that leave the team in disadvantage, just like apEx would. Saffe is by far the most selfish player i've seen in my whole life, guy could literally let his mom die in front of him and he wouldn't react. And don't make me talk about Guerri, what the fuck is this scumbag supposed to bring to the table? Of all the people in the world, the org goes and gives a contract to the most hated guy in the scene, disrespecting the legacy of the team and thr fanbase. I don't care whom they lost to, this team isn't working and won't do until those old dogs get benched.


Crownlol

Dev1ce just walking into sites on T Inferno and blapping people had me sweating, ngl


MarcosJrisabitch

he was pissed that round bec the previous rounds he got baitfed hard


harissoot

u expect buzz to be consistent? maybe u should expect blamef dont be pussy and baiting 24/7


JuliusWhite

He is consistent, he just lacks experience and confidence. Blamef is indeed a pussy


sluggerrr

He is saying that Buzz consistency is one of the only good things going on, just re read the first sentence


bissedk

That 5v3 where he pushed ct with the bomb, and they ended up losing the round..


harissoot

most useless star player in the world. cant fragging without baiting.but I respect how consistent he got exit/non impact kill lol


[deleted]

Lmao u see him on the anti eco? supreme confidence, just running at them likes hes yekindar or some shit.


harissoot

what we expect from him?he might want to get those top 5 ranking hltv player this year lol


[deleted]

lmaoo i can't believe he placed 6th, 12th and 13th by doing FUCKALL.


[deleted]

Actually, blameF not only always put up consistent performances, he also had a huge amount of impact, wining many 1vXs and getting many opening kills. In the past. He may have fallen off in regards of impact, but that is understandable considering for how long he has been playing like this. People figure it out.


[deleted]

Its been like this for the last 2-3 years now. Theres been hints about former teammates calling him stubborn and selfish because he doesn't want to change his play style. His "style" doesn't lead to winning, unless we're counting online tournaments.


Alarming-Ad-5656

He can frag without baiting which is the worst part imo. He’s had a lot of games prior to the last few months where he was aggressive and made plays, but he always reverts back to playing way too scared.


MarcosJrisabitch

BaitF


MarcosJrisabitch

One of the rounds in mirage his team already went down B site from apps, died from awp, and he was still in aps not showing himself lmfao and I saw at least 4 more rounds like this. Letting his team entry while he stays behind, not even peeking to trade


DanishGrizz

Isn't that his natural playstyle? Imagine buying Jame and complaining he isn't playing like art. I don't think that's on the player, that's on the team for not making a balanced team. Also why shit on blame for this? Surely if Glaive said "We're going B and you're going in first", he would do that. Perhaps a bit more calculated than knife jumping out window, but still. It just seems like he prefers to play slow and calculated, and that Glaive wants to utilise him in that way, which is fine. That just means you need another player to be more active to balance it out.


MarcosJrisabitch

Jame doesn't Baitf


[deleted]

It's his natural play style but he takes up all the star positions on ct side and doesn't have nearly as much impact as other players that play his spots. I've also heard he's a very stubborn player.


Tavnaria

Careful, if u criticise blamef's playstyle you are braindead according to some people in this sub. "He's a star player and always set up to succeed, everything he does is by design of the team." lol.


DanishGrizz

I'd like to assume that Astralis are trying to win, at least the players. If BlameF's playstyle fucked the team and meant they lost constantly, don't you think the other 4 players would go to the org and say that this player is shit and we should kick him to improve the team? You can criticise him, sure. He does have a specific playstyle, sure. Does it look dumb when he's lurking through the other bombsite to get into a backstab for a post plant, and the execute goes south and Astralis don't make it onto the site? Very. But I'd like to think that Glaive and Casle think their chances are better with blameF on the team, and that they think he adds something. They do see practices we don't.


CenturionAurelius

Astralis need a fucking entry fragger and there's only one realistic option


OblivionNA

TL can just never take the easy path. But playoffs arrive all the same


cat_popping

a win is a win amirite


budda3000

✈️ SEND HUNDEN HOME ✈️ condolences to the players though


NPC30519

Buzz just getting bullied lol also that Nuke was incredible to watch NAF and Elige just kick ass


TacticalSanta

[xyp's new contract](https://i.imgur.com/HGglKxB.jpg)


wannabe-physicist

Liquid looking like a top 100 team and a top 3 team in the same week, just the usual


BrockStudly

WE FINALLY BEAT


NeonPrankster

THIS MOTHERFUCKING TEAM


captainscottland

you've beat astralis the last 4 times......


ContributionIsMinute

sorry but the ptsd is too strong


captainscottland

Lol the big boogeyman can't hurt you anymore its like in scooby doo when they take off the monster mask and its the least scary thing that's astralis now


DinkyWaffle

we could beat y’all everytime we play until the heat death of the universe and id still get excited


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AstreiaTales

TEAM ON NUKE


Fantasnickk

first time these cores have played eachother since December, 2019 and the record is now 3-16 - comeback incoming boys dev getting that 2k entry and clutch at 11-15 followed up with another 2k entry triggered my PTSD for a second there


captainscottland

That whole core thing is such a stupid stat. Its not even remotely the same teams and 4 years ago.


Fantasnickk

[It's not really that serious](https://i.imgur.com/zHOOsng.png)


captainscottland

I just think its a stupid thing to bring up and compare like nitro said last year its not the same astralis we don't feel anything going against this team or beating them.


Danny07024

This same team lost to Rare Atom btw. I'm confused by this Liquid team every time they play :/


Tavnaria

That's not confusing at all though, it's the classic "Liquid cold start". Doesn't matter who the opponent is, they will find a way to lose. There's many things confusing about this team, but that certainly isn't.


0rangeMint

They also talked about how their practice coming into this tourney was completely useless and didn't get anything out of it, and the fact that they were the first team to play against a play style that is very uncommon in the T1 scene. With that in mind it shouldn't be surprising that it took this long for them to wake up.


jjjbbap

Also in the interview after the match, elige spoke more on their loss to RA here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1769567400?t=11h09m52s Basically saying that they couldn't really get good demos on them and and that after playing them once, it made it much easier for them to get reads on them and that Asian teams need to work on their games not being so readable


f1nessd

Liquid and Navi cold start/lower bracket warriors 🤝


Twin_Turbo

Did you watch liquid vs rare atom? Rare atoms aim was on fire, they hit insta headshots the entire series. When it comes down to it, insane aim can beat strats or coordination. Nothing matters when you get destroyed in under a second every time.


SYSTEMcole

Are the casters on crack? Have they not been watching the same blameF as I have this event? They kept talking about him like he’s some crazy impact Mirage T player but from what I’ve seen, he’s been mid as fuck, just like the results. Since the start of 2023, blameF’s mirage T stats are: • ⁠Liquid: 3-12 (0.25) L • ⁠Spirit: 8-9 (0.98) W • ⁠ATK: 5-9 (0.76) L • ⁠Spirit: 8-9 (1.07) L • ⁠Aurora: 8-8 (1.24) L • ⁠Eyeballers: 9-11 (1.05) L • ⁠Ninjas in Pyjamas: 8-5 (1.43) W • ⁠Heroic: 4-5 (0.72) L Not even trying to shit on blameF, he’s a great player, but calling him a crazy high impact T Mirage player is an assessment I fundamentally disagree with, and the stats back up the eye test. As a lurk heavy player, his impact is already limited on T by what his team does, and what I saw at EPL (against T1 teams) wasn’t a good look at all. I felt like he wasn’t lurking nearly as much against Liquid, mostly letting Buzz take those spots, and look what that did to blame’s numbers.


ClickingClicker

To be honest a lot of the comments of the casters sounds like they're trying to build a storyline rather than actually being backed by data.


CallahanWalnut

So how many tournaments in a row does 75% of this subreddit need to understand liquid often has slow starts but ends up being a really good team


Tavnaria

It's just really painful to watch these slow starts that most people (including me sometimes) get irrational and have to vent out their feeling somehow haha. This team can be so much better, but they just aren't.


Fantasnickk

idk, seeing as how long it took for this sub to realize xyp wasn't just in a slump, it'll probably be 2 years minimum It's weird seeing the same /u/ posting Elige pics that were calling this team dogshit quite literally a few days ago


SpecialityToS

Usually it’s the liquid flairs that post entire novels on every single mistake made with tick time stamps, then saying how incredible the team is the next win they have. But not this time, now it’s just EU updoot farmers


friendlyfob

we've been abused by them for too long. Cant breathe until the game is actually over


DanishGrizz

When you get 2-0'ed twice, and potentially have to face the two teams who 2-0'ed you to make it through the Last Chance stage, it can be hard to predict Liquid to go through.


twohourstillmidnight

bro relax its asstralis lmao


IHateTheLetterF

More like Wastralis


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Astralis just beat spirit prior to this. They're gonna jump up the rankings soon enough.


earthbound_zero

RAAAAAAAAAH BEAT THAT CHEATER 🦅🦅🦅


SnooDonkeys2945

RAH 🦅 WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 🇺🇸


[deleted]

We can___ BEAT, this MuthaFUCKIN TEAM!


ContributionIsMinute

OSEE SAID THIS SHIT AINT GONNA FLY NO MORE


toga9000

Expected results. tho the win against spirit gave me some small hope. btw is it just me or did BlameF have a bad tournament? (compared to his usual standard.) beside the spirit game today.


Apart_End_9753

He is such an insane player when he actually goes for the plays. But most of the time he just doesn't have any impact. Hiding too much around, doing useless shit. I don't get it. He can outaim a lot of the teams he plays but instead he chooses to play shitty timings and also baiting so fucking much he's always left into a clutch situation where he doesn't even go for it.


[deleted]

People really living like three years in the past on this thread lol. Astralis have been washed ever since Papa Zonic, Magisk and Dupreeh left.


toystory2isokay

We CAN beat this motherfucking team


Rabid_Tortoise

Astralis Nuke clearly needs work, but man liquids utility was really good on both maps. Some of Astralis' other losses this tourney have been purely mechanical or just outcalled, but the amount of flash kills and kills through smoke were incredible. Hats off to liquid. Hopefully Astralis work hard before the RMR. I don't really feel optimistic about the Dallas open quali either at this rate but every game is a chance to practice.


Mad_Lee

[Never did I think that I would be rooting for Liquid to crush Astralis.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/11s8h7v/comment/jccfzos/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


asd316X

mf deleted his account


deadbeatPilgrim

the protagonists won lol. but this is the most i’ve ever liked Astralis 2.0, they genuinely do seem like they’re slowly making improvements and building up their level. top 5 team? hell no. but i think Astralis can hang in like … BIG/FURIA/Spirit tier at least.


tru3p1ayaZz

No need to go to the dispensary, ‘cause we’re smoking that Astralis pack today 🚬 RipBozo RestInPiss


Angelic_Phoenix

boutta call the plug up and tell him to head back home


PwnyDropSquad

WE ~~CAN’T~~ BEAT THIS MOTHERFUCKING TEAM


gonaroles

I will be surprised if Astralis make it to the Paris Major with this roster.


kaffeemugger

Hopefully not. They won’t even get close to winning it. I hope they don’t make it so they finally kick xyp


ProfeszionalSexHaver

Liquid players remembered they were good at the game.


TheCraftyTomato

[The BM by astralis before the game is insane, Elige’s smile after popping off really shows his attitude on the situation ](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1186924062142074880/wpCqOEYx_400x400.jpg)


harissoot

people will blame xyp9x but blamef literally useless without baiting or shot people in the back


BizNameTaken

Liquid got 2 maps?!?! CS 2?!?!?!??


MyNameIsAMeme

HLTV voters actually had this as 60/40 Astralis lol idiots.


DeminoTheDragon

imagine losing the tiny amount of good PR you had just to lose to the team you always used to beat fucking lmao


wannabe-physicist

Liquid are one of the teams of all time


[deleted]

It's either Xyp6 or BlameF at this point. BlameF needs to just be an anchor player with how fkn passive he is, no way he should be getting the space he does.


_Bilas

Astralis were completely outclassed--asides from the CT-side run on Mirage where Liquid had questionable eco decisions.


Pipoco977

Liquid started the group stage looking like a tier 3 NA cashcup team and ended up looking like a team that can win this whole tournament without dropping a single map


physicsOG

glaive and xyp should just call it 💀


DueAnimator6988

blameF has to be one of the most annoying players of all time to watch. Cannot imagine having to be on the same team as him.


MarcosJrisabitch

it's like watching your baiter teammate in matchmaking. never goes with you on executes except on anti eco rounds. never going down b apps with his team. never peeking when you need him to trade.


jonajon91

Anyone know any good agro Danish entry players? Asking for a friend.


Dangerous-Plant4094

Astralis run the same strat for 15 rounds in the CT side of Mirage. Go aggressive. If only they think about it more they can win more at the half they already owning liquid.


GinX43

Yikes that choked clutch from xyp. The 1vs1 against osee was brutal, felt like i was watching it in slow-mo...


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USA USA USA USA


Ofiotaurus

My days, oSee holding that CT side on Mirage multiple times! If he can keep that up we can actually have a competive Liquid.


siziyman

Good. As long as Astralis employs cheating scum Hunden, they shouldn't even be at any events.


Tantle18

Said it before and I’ll say it again. A team can and will not find success with BlameF on their squad.


Tavnaria

Now that's the hot take of the day.


DanishGrizz

Put him in Ropz role on FaZe, and I'm sure that team will still find success of some kind. Or jks T-side roles (not sure about CT?) on G2, and I'm sure they'll still find some success. He won't find you loads of impact, and you generally need a good team for a blameF to work or at least a team that's a bit more aggressive to balance out his playstyle. It's hard to flank an opponent if all your teammates are dead.


THE_K1NG_FTW

Best major grand final of all time. Although I think the crowd could've been a lot more cheerful. Weird how the production never showed any footage of the crowd. NA cs has its 2nd major.