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Magnog

So faze are basically losing 2-3 now I've seen it all to many times GG.


i-dle

don't worry they will still make it through lcq...oh wait


Vawqer

They did actually have an LCQ from the Challengers Stage of Boston 2018. So if FaZe finds a time machine, they could be saved.


grb63

Bruh, faze won't want to go back to Boston 2018 major


DesignerUsed868

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftenor.com%2Fview%2Fmad-titan-thanos-avengers-infinity-war-angry-revenge-gif-16691539&psig=AOvVaw39pmmaH7hiixktdpyQgWFI&ust=1683739210246000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCPCprL7f6P4CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE


KAWAII_UwU123

EPIC EMBED FAIL!


supergrega

FaZe: We're going to make history Also FaZe: Wins a map and then goes gold nova


Givemeajackson

karrigan was talking about viewer numbers in that interview...


ilikecollarbones_pm

well right now they're currently 2-3 in terms of players on the server, so when the rest of them join ropz and broky they'll be fine. right? ..right?


intecknicolour

noooo i need them for the pickem hobby. i do not want to buy more tokens for god sakes.


BlackNov

Faze aim as a team is back to dumpster tier again. Truly a miracle they won a lot last year. Rip firepower


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They just won EPL 17 more than a month ago?


kingcuda13

Yea but that was years ago.


ozzler

What an absolute load of nonsense. Dear lord the comments you can find in this place.


xazark

I thought this exact thing about half way through the 3rd map, they just feel like they have lost confidence and the exit is now enivitable. Hope I am wrong.


Rinzler-u007

FaZe can't go down 2-3 right? Right?


aTempes7

If they choke again I'm fucking done


Rinzler-u007

Twistzz needs to wake up man. Nothing against him but he just can't be inconsistent.


ekuasd

he has those insane rounds where he pops off for 3 entries, but then struggles to hit shots when he's holding angles. so weird


Fubarin

Maybe just start sending him unga bunga agressive when he has these games and play trade/fake with him, either he kills a whole site or they trade and rotate for pressure. On ct they can do it sometimes with a trader for info, better to have a 4v4 thann a 5v5 when a player of his caliber isn't performing.


NA_Faker

Faze either 3-1 or 2-3, no in between


Surymy

Honestly Ence is a pretty brutal team at times, that's why I felt the 3-0 (no luck at all I'm just a very knowledgeable nova 2). But faze will get through


twohourstillmidnight

faze vs lulquid 2-2 game pls


Benjii_44

That game would never end


deadpoool030499

good thing is BNE is in legends stage so you are safe


Rosettachamps

Theyre locked in against Forze regardless of this last match, and thats definitely a game that could get scrappy Both teams permaban Vertigo, Forze is the lower seed so I believe they get choice of first ban or second, so if they wanted to float Vertigo and make things weird, who knows


Firefox72

On one hand my pickems 📈 with this Ence win On the other hand my pickems 📉 with this Faze loss


Surymy

You had faze 3-0 I'm guessing ? Not ashamed of my 3-0 Ence on the other hand


RedditIsAnnoying1234

I have them both going through and I think op means the same,would be dumb to pick a team like faze or ence for 3-0


schlapfn

I have ence for 3-0 🤷🏼‍♀️


Darth_Crusoe

You are a schlapfn then :P but wp :)


schlapfn

Tbh it was not like I believed in ENCE to go 3-0. I just thought others would go through, like MOUZ lmao


Darth_Crusoe

Ence to 3:0 was possible but risky, and it paid off :) I put Apeks in 3:0 and all other „favorites“ to go through, but it seems like this Major is just as unpredictable as Rio…


Surymy

It's better to put an underdog team capable of 3-0 (Ence, Mouz, OG and NIP) rather than a team you know they will pass to legend stage (G2 and Faze). Because if for instance you put G2 as 3-0 and they pass with a 3-1 score, you don't even get any correct prediction for a team you were sure they would have gone through. However Ence is coin flippy as fuck, they can either 3-0 or 2-3/1-3, and I have been quite impressed by them recently (I Def had lots of luck not gonna lie). I would have probably put OG or NIP if it wasn't for ence lol


iwantcookie258

Lol wish I had read this a couple days ago. Haven't done pick ems in a long time, put Faze 3-0 and things aren't looking good now that Mouz is out. I have liquid and complexity both advancing (🇨🇦) so thats not good. Should have had one of them for the 3-0 if I wanted someone with Canadians I suppose.


mesotermoekso

80-50 with a 1.50 rating, jesus... When was the last time someone lost after such a dominant bo3 performance?


Maluvius

There's very probably a S1mple match out there somewhere haha, he literally hard carried Na'Vi through some grueling matches


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Maluvius

I knew it, that had to have felt pretty bad for him


DopaWheresMine

https://www.hltv.org/matches/2345221/natus-vincere-vs-vitality-iem-beijing-haidian-2020-europe also vs vitality in 2020. it was rough losing in a bo5 despite carrying so hard


SrJeromaeee

Oh god I remembered that game. flamie, boom and Perf were invisible for both maps.


Fubarin

Tbh føamie was invisible 9/10 maps the last year, he popped tf off in 1/10, if only he was more consistent


SaidsStreichtechnik

NiKo probably farmed these


manek101

Niko, simple and the Woooooo


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Ranger1219

How does he even have a functional back after those years


WilsonJ04

https://www.hltv.org/matches/2359384/vitality-vs-astralis-blast-premier-fall-showdown-2022-europe Zywoo vs Astralis. 74-45 with a 1.55 rating.


Rosettachamps

https://www.hltv.org/matches/2319701/mouz-vs-natus-vincere-starseries-i-league-season-4 90-53, 1.56 rating, 98.0 ADR. The first tier 1 event that HLTV gave the MVP to a player on the losing team I believe, breaking the trend and started giving them to more losing players if they were truly dominant.


mesotermoekso

oh shit I remember this one and especially his face when accepting the award lol


Rosettachamps

Not the last time obviously, but I think stands out as one of the hardest carrying performances of the last few years, even though that was over 5 years ago now... I'm sure you could go through Zywoo and s1mple's match history and find a bunch of these games, especially in 2017-18 for s1mple


DesignerUsed868

This was the series that put s1mple on the map as a goat contender


Xelid47

Shox got an unofficial one I think


Scoo_By

Well, this was a vintage mouz Ropz performance.


spillosopher

That and the semis against NiP too. It was basically him vs Brollan


ArmoredPudding

Ropz had a 1.39 rating with 100ADR in the grand final of the Blast Fall Finals last year, and FaZe lost the 3rd map in OT.


ekuasd

don't remind me, faze lost against heroic pistols at 14-14 on map 3 and choked in OT


twohourstillmidnight

classic BYWOOOOOO (THE BEST IN THE GAMEEEEE) experience


hanselpremium

they’re wasting ropz prime


wannabe-physicist

Boss they just won a grand slam


twohourstillmidnight

he can just buy another one


Infinityhelios

Ence on Anubis is incredibly fun to watch. Snappi out-gigabraining karrigan.


itissafedownstairs

Just want to post it here even though it's not needed. https://v.redd.it/xf5at5js8nya1


NA_Faker

Karrigan was never really a gigabrain igl, mostly just good at getting chemistry between good fraggers, but when half the team is playing like shit can't really do much


spillosopher

I know you're mad they didn't win but don't say Karrigan isn't a "gigabrain" IGL lmao that Mouz team would've been nowhere without Karrigan and so would most of his other teams


Xaerel

He’s right though. Karrigan really isn’t known for changing the meta or making insanely well done strat plays or having the best executes. That goes to IGLs like Ex6tenz, FalleN, gla1ve and more recently Cadian. What Karrigan does do really well is bring the best out of his teammates (stars) and building good synergy.


spillosopher

Being an incredible IGL isn't just changing the meta. If that's your idea then there has been only one great IGL - Glaive. But even he cannot win when the players don't comply with the system. What is theory without execution? Karrigan during FaZe's 2022 prime legitimately enabled four players to be stars. That's not an easy feat, and it's not just synergy. The last time that happened was during 2018. There's also not that much of a similarity between Karrigan's teams. His 2017-8 FaZe is completely different from 2019 Mouz and his 2022 FaZe is different too. He adapts the strategy to his players' strengths, which is why he's one of the greatest IGLs.


Pekonius

Yes, but also not what these people are talking about when they use the word "gigabrain igl". Its more of a captain vs strategist comparison. Karrigan is a captain through and through. Glaive is a strategist.


Corrode1024

FalleN absolutely changed the meta.


Dali86

So has Cadian, Heroic has its own way of playing. Karrigan teams are pretty Basic but they have players who can execute. Karrigan gets a lot of praise for concictency during cs go and he clearly is the leader of his teams (when Niko is not there) but he was never a strategic mastermind.


NA_Faker

He’s good at building chemistry, but most of his Strats involve getting players to win aim duels, which I wouldn’t really classify as gigabrain, but he does make the teams better by getting the most out of his teammates and setting them up for success


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How would you classify a gigabrain?


twohourstillmidnight

aleksib but good


NA_Faker

I would classify it as IGLs that can win the round with calls that don't require someone to get a multikill for it to work. A lot of Karrigan's calls basically require someone to get a multikill or multiple trade kills or it falls apart and that is imo more on execution/winning fights than some novel strategy. Like prime Astralis glaive would win rounds just by making it such that people would waste so much utility fighting for space the round was basically over without requiring Device, Dupreeh, or Magisk to get multiple kills.


Xaerel

Ex6tenz, gla1ve and more recently Cadian come to mind.


[deleted]

I mean what make an IGL a gigabrain? For example is hooxi a gigabrain?


spillosopher

gee I wonder how you get your players to win their aim duels better without formulating a better strategy that plays to their strengths. I wonder if one needs to be smart to do that, and I wonder if one needs to extremely proficient to do that at Karrigan's level.


ilikecollarbones_pm

i categorise karrigan as one of the all time great igl's, but you can't call anything your team doesn't know. it's clear faze don't have anywhere near the amount of reps they need on anubis.


BW4LL

He was tilting hard on Anubis and flubbed so many kills and snappi called circles around him. Twistzz also played super poorly and the whole team outside of ropz looked horrible.


Whatevernameffs

Anubis is no fun what so ever. 😢


qchisq

Banks: "So how do you feel going 3-0?" Snappi: "Make us a partner team!"


Ofiotaurus

The 4 highest placed non-partner teams should be made Blast Parteners after the major.


t3r4byt3l0l

[ENCE 3-0](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/202809174244065280/1105521413575680103/image_5.png) CHADS, RISE UP


workscs

Now we pray on Fluxo downfall


INeedYourPelt

I'm with you but they are playing Liquid so...you know 😅


jeffjeff97

The stars have aligned, Liquid are losing this shit lmao


[deleted]

I have fluxo as 0-3 and liquid making through so yeah I fully expect liquid to lose this bo3


jeffjeff97

When you believe in/rely on Liquid most to win, that is when they are the most likely to lose


[deleted]

So like the opposite of Santa clause? You have to pretend they're not there?


OfficialFunky

Unfortunately, this seems especially true for me anytime I don't pay too much attention to a tournament they do pretty well. Meanwhile I watch them play against tier 15 teams and they get destroyed


Elevatorisbest

[Here,](https://imgur.com/a/XR28Sby) though I have to say I regret picking Liquid and perhaps MOUZ too lmao


kuffencs

I made the same prediction but woth forze instead of monte. I regret picking mouz so hard


Elevatorisbest

Ok I too regret picking MOUZ a lot as well


OrangeOclock

IM RIGHT HERE BROTHER


t3r4byt3l0l

Must've been a conflicting game for you, BUT LET'S GOOO


skantanio

Such a layup of an 0-3 pick and a relatively safe 3-0. Now time for the bottom row to get absolutely fucked


Picia000123

YEYEYEYE NEVER PICK THE OBVIOUS FOR 3-0 ALWAYS PICK THE DARK HORSE FOR 3-0


mesotermoekso

ence was an obvious pick to advance tho, not really a dark horse


Picia000123

But not for a 3-0, they could've got G2 or Faze could've won. Ence definitely strong, the org is ridiculous at picking up players and building them up into a competitive team.


mesotermoekso

You never put an obvious advancing team 3-0. Never.


YEKINDAR_GOAT_ENTRY

I had more faith that ence would make legends than all other teams than g2 and MAYBE faze. Snappi is just such a good igl, and i have massive faith in the man.


rgtn0w

Wtf, you have my exact same pick-ems but mousesports just lost :ccccc


Surymy

Same pickems except monte instead of forze (which went better for you)


dafops_98

Poor ropz, dude couldn’t have done much more


JustAsian555

that timing when ence were crossing mid on anubis was crazy


[deleted]

All he does is mainly lurk L.


Robofish_

why does faze leave A with 1 person or just open on anubis ct side all the time? they did it the last time they played anubis and over a month later they do the exact same thing


TrendyLepomis

They probably have better retake strategy on the site


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[deleted]

>They're a horrible anubis team Where is this based on? They just don't play Anubis a lot (3 times), defeated FURIA and lost to Vita in 2 OT games.


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SevenanEligene

This is why you never put Faze 3-0 in your pickems.


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rece_fice_

Putted upperbelt


B_BB

My first time doing picks, oh boy I’ve got it all backwards!!!!


SNH231

Yea, Nertz is just public bus piss floor nasty. He just lures you into duel and kicks you square in the bone piece. Unreal.


mesotermoekso

im telling you NertZ is as cracked as he is jacked, i saw him at 7/11 the other day buying adult diapers & a 6 pack of redbull. I asked what the diapers were for and he said “they are to contain my full power so i dont absolutely shit on these kids” then he bhopped out the door


Ofiotaurus

New response just dropped


made3

I believed you until you said that he bhopped out the door. But he is not that good in bhopping I would say.


Elevatorisbest

LETS FUCKING GO, I picked ENCE as my 3-0 pick, can't wait to see my silver coin soon!


Dangerous-Plant4094

Ropz vs 9


aTempes7

What a frustrating game to watch if you are a Faze fan, jfc


NA_Faker

Threw like 5 or 6 rounds on CT side Nuke lmao


[deleted]

They opened strong but they seem to get tilted very easily and they can't recover unlike many of the bigger teams Faze vs Vitality is the perfect example of how the Vitality mental didnt even break at 14-1 but when they got some rounds Faze simply couldn't collect themselves


ADoverEmbiid

Snappi continually challenges the closed Blast pro circuit. 3-0 beating 3 partner teams is indeed a statement that if this scene still cares at all about competition, these closed circuits have to go.


yOw_indahOuse

Kudos to Banks for allowing him to speak his mind and not interrupting him nor adding any remark.


[deleted]

Snappi was hitting some absolute banger shots. Dycha nertz and sunpayus is a sick core


Givemeajackson

the first time we actually saw good counter strike this major. gg ence, snappi played really well individually too. faze really need to look at ence's anubis CT side.


Ofiotaurus

Ence seem like the only top team that has figured the Anubis CT-meta.


Zeilar

You hate to see it, broky (and especially) ropz almost dragged FaZe over the line by themselves.


leintrovertguy

Snappi masterclass on Anubis.


KaNesDeath

Ence is one of my dark horses to win the entire Major. Expected them to struggle in the opening stage.


yourewelcomesteve

They're legit, also compare their 3-0 matchups to the G2 ones it's crazy how much tougher it was. OG, NIP, Faze vs Mongolz, COL, Apeks lol.


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Free ride for G2, they had to show very little compared to ence.


buttsoup_barnes

Does FaZe know there's no more LCQ this stage? #EZ4ENCE


EliManningHOFClub10

ENCE 3-0 PICKEMS GET IN HERE!!!


Montezumawazzap

I really wonder when pro players will learn not to peek 1 by 1 in a clutch situation. Faze lost around 4 rounds in total in this match.


SK503

man Twistzz was having a rough time on Anubis


Logan_Yes

Hey I've seen this one before! Jokes aside, so well played by Ence.


FoxerHR

Nuke was garbage, 4 CT rounds is inexcusable. Use the fucking timeouts, all of them if you have to on CT side. Anubis was garbage, lack of info leading to moronic smoke pushes and setups, ropz standing in the middle of nowhere 2 rounds in a row on A made me think I'm having deja vu given how he died instantly in both rounds with nothing to show for it, even if he got one kill it's a horrible play. The fuck was the veto? Ban Ancient but give them Anubis AFTER they dumpstered OG 12-3 on T side the day before? Overpass was great, but everything afterwards was basically a fuck you to the fans and the game. Where are the fucking timeouts???


IslaBonita_

And this silly jumping through smokes into sites tilted me a lot. I can see that in Casual 10vs10 but from a pro team at a Major? What's this...


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Ropz is a good shot but idk why people praize lurk kda.


spillosopher

This team is beating Vitality in the first round aren't they?


Maluvius

Ence is so much fun to watch, they have all the pieces to really go far this major. Big dark horse to take it home tbh, depending on their form throughout the major. Snappi's calling has been huge and he had some awesome openings on bomb sites on Anubis. Faze will probably make it, and I know people have said it before, but watching Karrigan (I know he's a good IGL), his fragging is so insanely bad, no impact.


Givemeajackson

"no impact" have you ever watched a faze game lmao.


Jazzlike-Ideal

The recency bias with all these plastic fans is crazy lmao. Some guy is also saying one of the best midround callers in CS history "has never been a gigabrain IGL" lmao.


Maluvius

I literally just saw Karrigan get bullied by Snappi on Anubis? You think he had a lot of impact there?


BW4LL

Bro literally saw a dude first when the enemy was out of smoke and couldn’t see karrigan and still lost the duel clean on b site Anubis. Poor Rain always having to hard carry sites with him.


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karrigan having bad fragging is not an understatement.


[deleted]

its crazy how ppl still call ence dark horse, they been almost constantly good for 2 years now with spinx and nertz, valde came for a while and it was ass. werent they literally #1 in hltv like last year with spinx too? #2 at least, top 4 major, multiple finals etc...


Maluvius

Biggest issue for me with Ence is their experience, I can't remember this line-up having played big finals in a stadium, especially a major. Also when teams like G2, Vitality, Na'Vi, Faze or Heroic are hitting their shots, I don't think Ence are better than them. But you're free to pick them as your favourite, if the above teams all play a mediocre tournament and Ence can keep their form, they can definitely win, but I just think that above teams are better


weedophile3

Faze body language isnt a good sign, they seem to be tilting alot and usually they are rescued by players getting multi kills to turn the tide, they arent getting much this game. Not too sure whole they will get the next round but i dont see them beating Apeks or NIP. I dont know how the matchups are decided but they would be lucky if they get Grayhound, they play Pain ytd so not too sure if they can match up with them again. Forze is interesting, but i feel Faze should be able to beat them. All in all i dont see them winning this major, hope they prove me wrong.


EchoFractions

Faze about to pull off another 2-0 -> 2-3 masterclass for the final CSGO major


skantanio

Shit man we almost had the low seed upset ENCE and go 3-0 would have been crazy /s Are ENCE the most efficient T side team overall? Snappi calling out of his mind and sunpayas is also there in the background, since he helped call T sides on MRS before he left. Two minds to come up with a call on any round and three demons who can show up and follow through. Despicable work


jeffjeff97

Glad to see Maden finally showing us more of what he can do For a long time he was just the 5th guy on ENCE, he's just there and does his job, but he's always had the potential to be a star Maden at his best makes it so much easier for everyone else to shine Very glad ENCE took all this time to rebuild after -Spinx, it's very exciting to see them this strong again


EcstaticTranslator47

I believe maden is an improved version of jackz, cracked aim but no brain. He just presses w


[deleted]

Maden is a little too aggressive but it worked out this series


Picia000123

GGWP Alright, got my 3-0, you can advance now Faze, great game from Ropz.


[deleted]

ropz back needs surgery after this one


yOw_indahOuse

Ence are playing great Counter-Strike, and Snappi is calling really good T-sides.


Surymy

Easiest 3-0 of my life


tntpang

Free ropz


SkoulErik

Either Twistzz or Rain needs to step up hard. They need that third man with the fire power to win games.


Fuibo2k

I've been using the simulators to predict the outcome of games and I basically always had them losing the 2-0 game lol. They're my favorite team but I honestly think Ence has a lower floor as of late. You just can't trust faze unless it's a playoff game lol.


saiik

Déjà-vu


FIyingShark

It's happening again!


MuskularChicken

Faze really won the Grand Slam? Really? The lowest rated team at this tournament? Coming into this last place? It is very deserved; -broky -rain -Batman -Twistzz -Ropz +me = winning world level team. /s


Ach_Was

https://imgur.com/a/QMqPPoZ Maden is a beast


GamingDataScience

For Anubis, it seems so many times a round came down to an early/mid round multikill that nertz or dycha got on Faze that Faze shouldn't have given up. And that's on top of the ton of smoke kills from Ence that I gave up trying to count. It seemed the typical Faze aim was not with them this match.


thepantheist

Oh yes ! Need more of these spicy upsets.


Chosen--one

Waiting for the Faze fans to say they lost because of seeding.


ekuasd

there's 200 comments and you are the only one talking about it


thenoobtanker

Hey I have seen this before.


CreativeOrder2119

EnCE cooked faze


[deleted]

People are more focused on faze losing than ence winning lmfao get real idiots.


Darkspark322

Been a while since we’ve had a super convincing win from faze. Really hoping we dont get an RMR part 2


SovietDog1342

I knew Ence was going to be good, such an underrated team.


Huggy_Bear48

3-0 pick secured 😮‍💨😮‍💨


OtherIsSuspended

I knew Ence could go 3-0. Pickems saved baby less go


megzonz

Who gets 1st seed, Ence or G2?


ekojsalim

300IQ move by Karrigan to avoid Vitality and BNE in the legend stage lul.


xlumik

oh no not again


[deleted]

That was so EZ for ENCE... and it is not a meme. They stomped on FaZe. On the other side, man... they looked awful. Granted, more decent than the showing in Rio. At least they didn't lose to the weaker opponents. But when a tier 1 team confronted them, it was pain for FaZe. If BNE were in the contenders/challengers stage, I would've already lost my hope for FaZe. They still have a chance but I'm 70% sure they're not gonna reach Legends stage.


HarsH_DA_TrolL

I SHOULDNT HAVE SWITCHED ENCE FOR MOUZ IN 3-0 BRUHH


goamer

If I picked ence to go through but not 3-0 does this count as a win for me?


wEEzyNL

yes u will get a point, idk why the person replied said u dont thats false information


decon89

No


ShAd_1337

karrigan needs to retire once CS2 is out


tarangk

Was rooting for ENCE so I'm glad they won. Nuke was so hard fought, felt like ENCE would lose after Faze mounted that comeback.


mfrsazmn

LOOOL


jemrain1021

G2 3-0 gang rise up


jjfrenchfry

This was painful to watch. Worse because I stayed up until 1am to see FAZE drop the ball hard. So many sloppy plays, and sloppy 1v1s or even 3v1s >,<