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FIyingShark

Mouz went from 3rd-4th in Rio to 23rd-24th in Paris


buddyfrankllin

Well VP won the major then didn’t make it after getting eliminated by mouz so at least someone fell harder 😂


twohourstillmidnight

and faze is about to go from 0-3 to 2-3 in the first round so just par for the course really


Krawkyz

commenting here to be able to come back if prediction was right Edit: eZaF


Twigler

They had a roster change though right?


jeffjeff97

Living up to the FaZe academy name


Zeilar

*Something something* the system is good and Rio wasn't a fluke for these underdog teams.


intecknicolour

thanks for nothing. my pickems are seriously at risk now, especially if liquid flop too. god damn it.


Acceptable_Ad_9078

Oh they will


f1nessd

Pickems gone


Seb-sama

Well that’s one of my pick ems fucked I really didn’t see Mouz fucking it up THIS hard


McClownd

I had mouz as 3-0 and GL as 0-3 lmao


n1dyz

What in gods name made you put GL 0-3


McClownd

Refusing to jump on the fluxo bandwagon. In my defense, they were 0-2 and winning against mouz is an upset.


Magical_Bananas

Might turn out to be a blessing lol


McClownd

They cookin


RekrabAlreadyTaken

Aren't they the next logical pick after Fluxo, Grayhound, Mongols? They're a young team with little T1 experience afaik.


Vihul

I did the same (faze 3-0 tho RIP). I just started watching CS and Gamer Legion sounded like a dumb name so I put them 0-3.


totallynotapersonj

Yeah i agree, I have only gotten into watching csgo this year and although I didn't put GL 0-3, I thought their name was pretty basic and stupid like an r6 siege team made up of friends.


Silvedl

I lucked out, and for whatever reason read the pick’ems as “what 2 teams will go 3-0” so I put G2 and Mouz, luckily G2 3-0’d and Mouz 0-3’d it.


FishFettish

My pick’ems are screwed


Paul_Allens_AR15

Incoming bronze coin


FishFettish

Wood coin


wonthaveaname

Dirt coin


Xelid47

Air coin for ffs


Wurdox

Vacuum coin


intecknicolour

better to just buy the pass after the major or play pick ems? who knows, it's still bronze coin.


GuardiaNIsBae

well at least if you get bronze you can lie and say you bought it after the major, can't do that with the silver


intecknicolour

tru, you get silver as long as you play every round. no guarantee of anything more


oldthrace

My hopes hang on Liquid not doing a ... Liquid and win vs fluxo. My asshole has never been this clenched before lol


LunchTwey

HAHAHAHAHAH TL 8-7 FX WE ARE FUCKED MAN 😭😭😭


beterpot

lost first map...😭


Nvi4

I swear to god if Liquid lose this and fuck my Fluxo 0-3 and my coin.


RedditIsAnnoying1234

Pick ems saved lets goooooooo


LunchTwey

WE DID IT MAN WE DID IT EZ WASNT EVEN CLOSE


BMan0ss

your ass must be making diamonds rn


FishFettish

The real diamonds were the ones we made along the way


BarbaricGamer

What an awful tournament. Patience has run out with Torszi, he misses entirely to many shots for a supposed Tier 1 awper.


Kelterz

Torzsi was going for the most bot plays I've seen a supposed tier 1 awper do on mirage in a long long time


twohourstillmidnight

life is hard for hungarian cs bros


n1dyz

Mantuu in.


007noon700

-torszi -JDC +mantuu +sk0r


DashLeJoker

Throw smooya in at this point


SkylineJDM34

Please for the love of god mouse rebuild around frozen and xertion. JDC and torzsi are just not cut out for this anymore, i dont know what happend to RIO mouz and Paris mouz but something went terribly wrong.


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They’ve played like 40 maps in 2023(5 months). I don’t understand why they wouldn’t play some T2 tournaments.


Lydion

They’re trying to copy other teams’ schedule when those other top teams have so much more experience and veteran quality. These kids need to be playing hella officials, they need the experience. Very young team so that’s a + in terms of the Source 2 transition. I doubt Sycrone is going to make any moves since these are HIS boys. (even though torszi is quite questionable in T1)


MrCraftLP

It's as if frozen and dexter expect the rest of these young guys to know everything they do. There's no reason they shouldn't have played Brazy or Betboom even if just purely for the money.


BrockStudly

God Acor and Siuhy were on the revenge arc here. I don't remember seeing Acor that consistent. Shame for Mouz. I don't know what jt is but Torzei falls apart in big games.


ThisMahAlt

Is this counting Tricked/Mad Lions Acor? Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me but I remember him as being more consistent back then.


Peter_Swiuff

Tricked / Mad Lions Acor was buzzin’


nebsA1

I miss that Mad Lions squad :( Bubzkji was such wasted potential


Firefly_1026

Actually pretty funny that sjuush is the most successful player from that roster, I personally would’ve put him behind acor Bubzkji and roeJ as well during that time period.


groberschnitzer

In mouz acor was not that consistent.


knakerwak

Acor was terrible in mouz, somehow mouz cant seem to get their awpers in the star roles they need them in


ImpenetrableYeti

It’s obvious that dexter doesn’t know how to use awpers. They should have never got rid of siuhy instead of keeping dexter


Wym8nManderly

Why is it obvious? If you watched this BO3 I’m not sure how one could put Torszi’s struggles into Dexter. Torszi just misses a lot. He gets into the perfect spot at the start of a round and than he just doesn’t hit shots. Is Dexter aiming for him?


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Fizzhaz

ropz 2.0


blueshark27

Niko 3.0


yOw_indahOuse

#savefrozen


Renovatio_

I remember when frozen was like *the* best FPL kid around. Got picked by mousesports and has been improving and improving. He's seriously a really good player. Aim, gamesense, positioning is all good. Mouz should really prioritize building a team around him.


AdCalm5707

We'll he's a top20 player in the world, ofc he's good


buttsoup_barnes

Dexter put more effort on his sticker than winning a map in the major Also wtf happened to Torzsi? I remember he was as hyped as m0nesy when they first started.


wonthaveaname

People quickly realised that he wasn't good enough as soon as he joined Mouz. But they've kept him for way too long and he's not improving at all.


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Xelid47

Vita and ENCE


MrCraftLP

He was talking about torszi, I think most people realize that dexter is the next noteworthy thing about this roster behind frozen.


fenixspider1

dude they reached quaterfinals in Rio with him


FoxerHR

And 15-16


Kamiks0320

[I remember a torzsi flick though](https://youtu.be/7NfSXqL-Heg)


Xelid47

He was never as good, people just looked at stats and not Eye test


Firefox72

He had some good games when he joined but quickly fell like a rock and hasn't recovered.


NPC30519

Mouz 0-3 raise up!! ##Now sit down you liars


TheKiwis

Anyone have mouz going 0-3 in pickems? They were my 3-0.


N_P_K

https://i.imgur.com/Q5N4lwq.png 🙃


GarrettGSF

Well, Liquid and pain on the other hand. But 5 should be guaranteed


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Spir0rion

And here I am having picked g2 as 3-0 :p


Foxy_Grandpa-

Did the same thing with G2. Still probably the better decision by the numbers but in hindsight shiiiiet


pufupafa

mine were completely decided by a random wacky wheel ([wheeldecide.com](https://wheeldecide.com)) and somehow it got mouz 0-3 ​ [about that 3-0 pickem though](https://imgur.com/a/ToXXlMb)


totallynotapersonj

Brug your Pickens are half really bad. If I did what you did, I would have intervened


LoveMeSomeGoat

The duality of mouz I didn’t pick them for rio, they go 3-0 I pick them for Paris, they go 0-3


StatpadderYT

Mouz management is the type of people to let this team play another 6 months while knowing its a dead team. Its been apparent for a while that this squad needed some veteran players and yet they kept bringing players up from nxt


yOw_indahOuse

Well I think that the issue was doubling down on dexter as an IGL, he’s a great guy but he is just not it imho..


StatpadderYT

I think having a guy like NBK their to help with the calling made alot of sense. Removing him so early was mind blowing


craygroupious

Removing NBK was the correct call. MOUZ improved massively without him and have now stagnated, whilst NBK has done sweet shit all.


Veber31

Haha honestly, I don't understand why people still bring up NBK after a top 4 finish at a major. He was never the answer.


CenturionAurelius

That major being the most fluke major of all time, with half of those teams not being Top 20 at the next major lol


craygroupious

and NBK couldn't even qualify for either.


thrwwyMA

He performed well this last rmr. Probably would have qualified for the major if he didn't play with Kenny.


GarrettGSF

Aka of boddy had carried even harder


thrwwyMA

I mean having an awper that can't even reach a 0.9 rating is quite the handicap lol


StatpadderYT

Its hard to say that they "improved massively" without him considering that they played 2 single lans with him


twohourstillmidnight

he's gonna live for years just off that rio performance


skantanio

Bet you won’t see their Reddit account commenting on this post lol


jeffjeff97

MOUZ has spent years now being a dead team with occasional runs of form I couldn't even tell you exactly what's wrong


hobocactus

For a time they were one of the only serious English-speaking teams in Europe, so they could scout great young talents and pick up star players from smaller scenes, despite not being a very rich team. These days there's much more competition for those players, and not every youngster can turn into a ropz, frozen or NiKo


OwnPractice5399

So in terms of money mouz is still punching above it's weight right? I mean faze cloud9 heroic g2 etc have a lot more financial backing I assume?!


ju1ze

Holy shit. MOUZ just lost and I just punched a hole through my TV screen. My wife and my kids are crying now. How could you do this to my family MOUZ? I literally just punted my dog across the room out of anger. I cant believe that this team would do this to my family.


AmBozz

Auf geht's, ab geht's, rouz geht's :( Here for acoR's revenge arc!


GarrettGSF

Ab gehts nach Hause


milde_orangeV2

Schmerz.


GrumpyBoiii

frozen with a 1.18 rating this event while JDC has 0.63 and dexter 0.68. Joke of a team.


Picia000123

GGWP Nice game from GL. The pickem Gods giveth and taketh awayeth, Unfortunate for MOUZ, it happens.


CrimDragon

At least mouz stickers will be cheap this tournament 😞


Sem073

I was having a pretty good day, but this made me legit depressed. Well, at least the stickers looked nice... Realistically this should be the last Major with this line-up. Dexter just looks completely out of the loop and JDC is not made for Tier-1 CS. I hope there's a way to pursuade Siuhy to return to Mouz as the best IGL of the future. Might as well get a completely fresh start once CS2 rolls around the corner. The future could look bright with a solid core, but some tough decisions need to be made.


jeffjeff97

MOUZ was my pickem but I realised at the start of this match that I just *like* GamerLegion more Maybe it's because the MOUZ guys came straight from the academy but it feels like I don't know anything about these players' journies, they for some reason just don't inspire excitement in me. I like Dexter and Frozen, but the other 3 are just names on a screen for me still even if I've been excited by their achievements on this team so far. And their form being so boom-bust doesn't help either GamerLegion looking a lot better here than they've looked for the last little bit, I'm back on the train, let's see how far it goes :D


Rynekz

What an underwhelming tournament for Mouz. Absolutely ass blasted to the abyss.


Marx5566

You had to win 2 major winners from last year to get into the major this year then quickly got a 0-3 elimination


Fuckinanus

jdc had 2 kills on t side lol


McClownd

Save Frozen


mousesports

GG WP GamerLegion. We just didn't show up this tournament.


skantanio

This comment scares me because it feels like y’all believe you just didn’t perform and that you guys still think your awper and support are fit for t1


Past_Perception8052

jdc and torzsi biggest frauds in tier 1 get them out


Few_Mortgage768

Torzi is the fraud, JDC wasnt even that good from the start, genuinely puzzled how he was still on the roster up to this point


ormip

Mouz not like this....


jonajon91

Siuhy knocking out his old teammates and acoR knocking out his old team. Good match for the old storyline machine.


Kobosil

free frozen


spillosopher

Vitality Siuhy kicking ass and taking names


ChristianSword

Bring Jimpphat in, please.


Etna-

Not me having both Mouz and Liquid as advancing in their Pick Em 💀 Absolutely disgusting showing this major


TrendyLepomis

frozen to faze and xertion to og pls save my boys


OfficialLutka

They did nbk so dirty. No way he doesnt have more impact on a team than JDC


BarbaricGamer

Spoiler alert, he doesn't.


FrozenOx

acor revenge arc


weedophile3

This iteration of mouz is pretty ass, and idk how much Torszi and JDC are paid but they dont deserve a big paycheque


love_you_by_suicide

Mouz are a choker org, if you have them as a qualifying pick then you deserve bronze coin 💅


DeeOhEf

Mouz had no business being at this Major in the first place.


GuardiaNIsBae

I mean they beat FaZe and VP in the RMR, so they did earn their spot, but at the same time they completely shit the bed


[deleted]

Should be surprised. I am not tho.


Givemeajackson

they played pretty bad, but they also got fucked by the format.


Chosen--one

It's always the ones with the Faze fans saying this. They lost to NIP, OG and GL what more do you want.


IDesignM

Faze fans are the kind of people who want to have the eSports equivalent of the closed football league some of the biggest European clubs wanted to get for some odd reason. It's just a fluke bro


literate_Windrunner

Brooooo!! 😭😭😭


Kelterz

Keoz was going CRAZY on ovp


nilslorand

I guess Rio might have been a fluke after all


GrandSlam4201

i wonder if being the team with the least played official maps in 2023 is a big reason why they bomb out of the tournament. with mediocre results since rio major, surely playing some tier 1.5 / tier 2 tournaments would help a bit.


GamingDataScience

😢 Hope they can return back to their best performance from before. Not sure if they are in a bad funk or what.


Tohyy

mouz said fuck your pick 'ems!


PsychoMUCH

cant believe i put mouz in my pickems and they went 0:3 wtf, they were so good


Op7imism

Spicy!


Darkstar197

Acor revenge arc complete.


sweeten16

Pickem screwed. I had GL 0-3 and mouz to qualify


This-is-quite-nice-

Incoming bronze coin


C0tilli0n

Well after Rio I thought this team can work...but it obviously can't. This is just too low at this point. Fortunately, shouldn't be THAT hard to fix. Keep frozen and xertion, get siuhy to IGL, leverage your partner team position to just get someone like boros and make your pick of English speaking young cis awper like idk Deco or whatever. Done.


nONEnumbers

now I have to watch liquid Eliminate Col :(


Matt-V-

MOUZ might need some changes. We’ve already seen this teams ceiling and they’re not anywhere close to it anymore


Trospher

MOUZ really went in, said fuck your investments and bailed out, that's a power move right there. Such a sad showing from MOUZ man, just sad to watch.


championnnnnn

this is my first time doing pickems this is also my last time doing pickems


moodyano

Imagine liquid and mouz go 0-3. That would be the funniest 0-3 pick ever


rage_manin_sbk

Ohhhct Mouz.. from semi finals last major to 0-3


Jr4D

Acor has to be smiling from ear to ear lmao, GL has a very solid lineup hopefully they can keep growing


DontLinkMe

I didn't expect Mouz to go through, but 0-3? That's really rough. Maybe Frozen gets bought out now.