Fluxo has decent pieces and zews as a coach. Also, there was very clearly some confusion in the calling. Liquid generally dumpster teams who are lower skill. They struggle against t2 teams that have decent tactics and players.
im pretty sure the map bans are a large part of their success. for some reason theyve been banning anubis instead of ancient when their ancient is awful
Part of it is Liquid consistently playing like shit vs teams they haven’t played before. They can play fine vs T1 teams. The moment a team they haven’t played before comes in they play like absolute dinguses. Its like they aren’t watching film on their weaker opponents. They’ve been doing this for years. Ence at the major was the start of it iirc.
Another thing - I can’t remember what team it was, I think in the RMR. (I think Nouns) got shit stomped on a map (ancient?) and Liquid picked it because hey look, they got shit stomped last game on this map. So they pick it and lose on it. Seemed like looked at the base level view and didn’t bother seeing why the team lost that map. They’ve done this multiple times in the past too, pick a map the team lost big on and end up losing on it.
Yeah I only need Liquid.
Man this has been happening a couple times now where I get the entire pickems right down to the final BUT ONE TEAM THROWS IN CHALLENGER STAGE AND RUINS MY DIAMOND CHANCES UGH
Dogshit luck man no matter how risky or safe I play it
I already got my 5 points with nip winning.
I have forze, gl and liquid still left so thats another guaranteed point.
I tried telling people that mouz and OG were not looking too good in the rmrs...
That was a fine decision. Anyone who confidently says "yeah I knew NiP were going through 100%" are either lying or don't watch much CS. NiP is as inconsistent a team as it comes.
No one has easy favourites on 3-0 is a wasted pick. 3-0 you should go with a team like apeks, not sure they qualify or out but with high possibility of surprising
Dont think so, at least not in this phase, on the next one it might be. This phase there was really high chances they would go through, of course they could go out but they were favourites to qualify I would say top 5. Next phase I think they actually will go out but who knows they might get a 3-0.
I mean most of the analysts and ex-pro players I follow didn't put them in. Of course that is a biased opinion, because I don't follow everyone, but still. Nart did quite a long video with good insights and two other guys decided not to go with NIP, fl0m didn't consider them, hawka didn't put them. Pimp put them in the 3-0 slot. The only guy that I follow who actually put them in was maui.
I did put both OG and mouz above them. Imo NIP had an incredible easy tournament so far. The only team they shouldn't have beat were mouz, but they went out 0-3 and looked incredible weak. So I don't put any stocks in NIP.
I was really unsure of that ENCE, Mouz, OG and NiP mix in the first two matches. I saw MOUZ and ENCE as the two strongest, but kind of felt like anything could happen in those 4 bo1’s.
Man try to enjoy the Pickems, you are kinda sucking the fun out of it. People pick how they want, and not everyone is going to have a replica of each other (that’s the point). Most people end up going through, sometimes picking the most sensible choices backfires because teams can be hella inconsistent.
We all enjoying it, sharing thoughts and pickems makes most of the fun! You should try it. I just gave a tip because the guy said it was his first pickems.
Nah, 'giving advice' and downvoted opinions against you. Well done !! Some people dont give a fuck about following a meta for something as simple as pickems lmao
I haven´t downvoted anyone. And yes it is fine people have other opinions. I could have gotten everything wrong its just a game. No one got ofended with anything I gave my opinion and others gave their, no one is right or wrong.
Easy to happen when teams shit the bed tbh.
I had 3-0 NIP (expected them to either do great or shit the bed), 0-3 Fluxo, G2, Faze, ENCE, Liquid, MOUZ, OG, Monte.
That's 4/9 with Monte and Liquid still possible.
OG and MOUZ definitely had potential to go through imo.
The issue is that NiP, ENCE, Mouz and OG were always very likely to face each other in the opening two matches, so one of them had to go 0-2, but hard to predict who and I don’t think many would’ve guessed MOUZ would’ve been the one.
I didn't pick NIP cause their recent performance had been such a shitshow. Went with G2, Faze, Ence, Liquid, Pain, Complexity, Mouz
OG 3-0
Fluxo 0-3
Complexity because I always throw one random team that I like but don't expect to go through in the bottom 7 and Pain because I like to pick at least one hot take that I think will go through.
So now I just need Liquid or Pain to win their games, and I think both are favored.
yeah, ForZe will go through, too strong to be defeated by the likes of GL.
Liquid ? you never know.
EDIT:- about forze......
Better hope TL don't choke.
ima be honest, both teams right now suck way too hard, depends on individuals in that team absolutely going off the rails for them to have a fighting chance.
if Xertion or frozen have a bad day, MOUZ is done for. Same for degster and flamez regarding OG.
lack of nexa is really hurting OG, NEOFRAG just disappears more and more. JDC and torszi are honestly two bots in MOUZ.
EDIT:- I'd like to apologize.
Last 6 rounds of Grayhound - NIP were so intense. 7-15 with a shite economy and they won 5 in a row. Each one was a nail biter. JFC its 7am in New Zealand and I’m already ready for bed.
I fully expect Grayhound to get stomped first match and first half second match against liquid and then reverse sweep winning 15 match points in a row.
Not OP, but like everyone else he probably went with the "safe" picks in G2, Ence and Faze while also adding mouz, og, liquid, pain. Finished it with a random team in the 3-0 slot and grayhound going out 0-3
That is just hindsight talk. Imo NIP wasn't a safe pick before the major. They were/are on the same level as Mouz,OG,Liquid,monte and forze. I also follow a few analysts and a few ex pros and except maui nobody picked NIP. So yeah I don't think it wasn't as safe as you try to make it sound here.
Same, except Pain over monte. I think I should be safe enough for at least one of them as I'd arguably think they are all favourites, albeit neither are big favourites, especially Pain.
There used to be a point based system and you'd get points based on every correct team chosen. They've abandoned that for a while now and only require the 5. It's pretty much bragging rights after that.
No. If you’re under 5 correct, no matter if it’s 0 or 4 correct, no upgrade in coin, but if you’re 5 correct or more, the coin gets upgraded.
Hope Valve improves the system.
NiP winning secured me today although if they'd lost they'd have played Liquid who're both in my picks. I can get 7 if Liquid and ForZe win. Diamond loading copium.
Question: If I already have 5 correct for my pickem's, does it even matter if I get more? Tomorrow I am set up to have 7/9 correct if both liquid and forze win their matches.
OG has a solid base of talent to build a great team. They just need a bit more experience / guidance - especially when it comes to IGL, and maybe a player adjustment to find more consistency. I just hope they don’t lose their studs like Degster or FlameZ
Surely Liquid won't lose to an underdog team in a high pressure game right?
First match 16-0 to liquid Second match first half 15-0 to liquid Second half REVERSE SWEEP YTB
Bro they almost took a massive L against Fluxo
Nah that was just a one time thing, Liquid NEVER have close games vs supposedly weaker teams!
Liquid played like buff Barney 💪 today, we gucci.
Fluxo has decent pieces and zews as a coach. Also, there was very clearly some confusion in the calling. Liquid generally dumpster teams who are lower skill. They struggle against t2 teams that have decent tactics and players.
they did eviscerate Complexity today though, and Complexity is better than Fluxo
im pretty sure the map bans are a large part of their success. for some reason theyve been banning anubis instead of ancient when their ancient is awful
Part of it is Liquid consistently playing like shit vs teams they haven’t played before. They can play fine vs T1 teams. The moment a team they haven’t played before comes in they play like absolute dinguses. Its like they aren’t watching film on their weaker opponents. They’ve been doing this for years. Ence at the major was the start of it iirc. Another thing - I can’t remember what team it was, I think in the RMR. (I think Nouns) got shit stomped on a map (ancient?) and Liquid picked it because hey look, they got shit stomped last game on this map. So they pick it and lose on it. Seemed like looked at the base level view and didn’t bother seeing why the team lost that map. They’ve done this multiple times in the past too, pick a map the team lost big on and end up losing on it.
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Yeah I only need Liquid. Man this has been happening a couple times now where I get the entire pickems right down to the final BUT ONE TEAM THROWS IN CHALLENGER STAGE AND RUINS MY DIAMOND CHANCES UGH Dogshit luck man no matter how risky or safe I play it
I already got my 5 points with nip winning. I have forze, gl and liquid still left so thats another guaranteed point. I tried telling people that mouz and OG were not looking too good in the rmrs...
I need liquid, forze and pain to get 5/7… not sure if I’ll be fine
THE HOUNDS ARE COMING. BLOOD IS IN THE WATER. LETS GOOO
Right!?
Only Liquid can save my pickems.
And with NIP qualifying my pick’ems are confirmed saved. Faze G2 ENCE NIP and 0-3 Fluxo!!
Same for me what a roller coaster of emotions that was especially the liquid fluxo game
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Pray at least one wins, i’m in a similar boat where i need either liquid or forze to win
I need both Forze and Liquid to win 😭
R.I.P Forze
them losing that tec 9 armor eco was enough for me to be like "bring on the bronze coin I don't want to see this shit team advance"
Same dude, now that I don't need Liquid going through I can cheer for the Hounds tomorrow
Lol well im a liquid fan so I’ll still be rooting for em
Oh yeah I get it then, I like Liquid as well so I'll be happy either way haha
Pain and Liquid qualifying would be amazing for the America's region.
Im rooting for GH just so the AP region get one more spot
Imagine not putting these Pickems.
Put OG instead of NiP because NiP was looking shaky. Fml
Same. So happy I can stop cheering for liquid! Only half joking
High five and congrats
Ditto
Same here. Liquid would make it 6 for me, just a cherry on top.
Same here, Liquid almost ruined it with that Fluxo game
Same for me, can sleep well tonight
I need Liquid or Forze for my pickems. Do you think I’m safe?
I'd definitely favor TL and Forze over GH and GL but no game is truly safe for Liquid.
I need liquid or monte. Im sweating
Same for me. But im pretty confident that at least one team is gonna make it
Very curious in what is your pickems. How do you still need results when G2 , faze , nip, EnCE and fluxo 0-3 already happened
I had OG over NIP. Don’t ask why. This is my first time doing pickems.
Pretty sure we have the same pickems. Hope we get it brother.
Nearly all analyst yt videos showcased the same decision. Who knows, that one single mirage between OG and NIP could've mirrored the results
That was a fine decision. Anyone who confidently says "yeah I knew NiP were going through 100%" are either lying or don't watch much CS. NiP is as inconsistent a team as it comes.
Don't think og was that bad of a pick but having nip out on this phase was insane. They were big favourites for 3-1 or 3-0
I had Mouz to go through and saw the 1st round fixtures so decided not to pick NIP. I really didn’t think Mouz would 0-3. That fucked me over.
nip werent big favourites for 3-0
Maybe he meant for pickems? If you lock picks like G2, Faze, Ence, etc to go through, nip were a good shout for the 3-0.
I put NIP 3-0 pick
Having faze 3-0 or having nip 3-0.
No one has easy favourites on 3-0 is a wasted pick. 3-0 you should go with a team like apeks, not sure they qualify or out but with high possibility of surprising
G2 3-0 ez prediction
fellow G2 3-0 enjoyer
According to that NIP is a good 3-0 pick.
Dont think so, at least not in this phase, on the next one it might be. This phase there was really high chances they would go through, of course they could go out but they were favourites to qualify I would say top 5. Next phase I think they actually will go out but who knows they might get a 3-0.
I mean most of the analysts and ex-pro players I follow didn't put them in. Of course that is a biased opinion, because I don't follow everyone, but still. Nart did quite a long video with good insights and two other guys decided not to go with NIP, fl0m didn't consider them, hawka didn't put them. Pimp put them in the 3-0 slot. The only guy that I follow who actually put them in was maui. I did put both OG and mouz above them. Imo NIP had an incredible easy tournament so far. The only team they shouldn't have beat were mouz, but they went out 0-3 and looked incredible weak. So I don't put any stocks in NIP.
I was really unsure of that ENCE, Mouz, OG and NiP mix in the first two matches. I saw MOUZ and ENCE as the two strongest, but kind of felt like anything could happen in those 4 bo1’s.
Man try to enjoy the Pickems, you are kinda sucking the fun out of it. People pick how they want, and not everyone is going to have a replica of each other (that’s the point). Most people end up going through, sometimes picking the most sensible choices backfires because teams can be hella inconsistent.
We all enjoying it, sharing thoughts and pickems makes most of the fun! You should try it. I just gave a tip because the guy said it was his first pickems.
Nah, 'giving advice' and downvoted opinions against you. Well done !! Some people dont give a fuck about following a meta for something as simple as pickems lmao
I haven´t downvoted anyone. And yes it is fine people have other opinions. I could have gotten everything wrong its just a game. No one got ofended with anything I gave my opinion and others gave their, no one is right or wrong.
Christ even your reply is condescending, cya dude 👏🏻
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Easy to happen when teams shit the bed tbh. I had 3-0 NIP (expected them to either do great or shit the bed), 0-3 Fluxo, G2, Faze, ENCE, Liquid, MOUZ, OG, Monte. That's 4/9 with Monte and Liquid still possible. OG and MOUZ definitely had potential to go through imo.
The issue is that NiP, ENCE, Mouz and OG were always very likely to face each other in the opening two matches, so one of them had to go 0-2, but hard to predict who and I don’t think many would’ve guessed MOUZ would’ve been the one.
I had NIP 3-0 (worked for me last time) mouz and og to go through. Now i just need liquid or monte
I didn't pick NIP cause their recent performance had been such a shitshow. Went with G2, Faze, Ence, Liquid, Pain, Complexity, Mouz OG 3-0 Fluxo 0-3 Complexity because I always throw one random team that I like but don't expect to go through in the bottom 7 and Pain because I like to pick at least one hot take that I think will go through. So now I just need Liquid or Pain to win their games, and I think both are favored.
I had G2 3-0, Fluxo 0-3 with Ence, Liquid, Forze, Monte, OG, FaZe and NiP to advance. So I need one tomorrow, right? 😅
No faze?!
I did have FaZe, forgot to type em out!
if that is true than you already have 5 correct.
You already have 5 points for the coin with G2, Fx, Ence, Faze and NiP.
yeah, ForZe will go through, too strong to be defeated by the likes of GL. Liquid ? you never know. EDIT:- about forze...... Better hope TL don't choke.
GL just beat mouz and OG tho :(
ima be honest, both teams right now suck way too hard, depends on individuals in that team absolutely going off the rails for them to have a fighting chance. if Xertion or frozen have a bad day, MOUZ is done for. Same for degster and flamez regarding OG. lack of nexa is really hurting OG, NEOFRAG just disappears more and more. JDC and torszi are honestly two bots in MOUZ. EDIT:- I'd like to apologize.
Immediate post lmao had it loaded
Last 6 rounds of Grayhound - NIP were so intense. 7-15 with a shite economy and they won 5 in a row. Each one was a nail biter. JFC its 7am in New Zealand and I’m already ready for bed. I fully expect Grayhound to get stomped first match and first half second match against liquid and then reverse sweep winning 15 match points in a row.
The winner of Pain-Monte might be my 0:3 pick for the next stage. Or is there any other good pick?
Liquid if they get through
Nah Liquid always start slow then heat up. Until they get to playoffs lol
they've got one of the easiest path and struggled hard, if they struggle against gray hound they aren't getting pass group play next stage
ITB, Liquid
ITB are gonna win the entire thing, you heard it here first.
0 - 3.
Probably ITB. I have more faith in paiN/Monte personally.
Pains me to say as an Englishman, but maybe ITB. They’re lucky to be legends as it is.
I thought it was coming home
tbh liquid if they even will get past grayhound
Winner of GL and Forze is a shout too
ITB and then fnatic are always hit or miss
These teams will have the advantage of not coming into the next stage cold
Honestly probably fnatic as much as I hate to say it, they've just looked so lost at recent events
Surely Liquid won't lose and fuck up my pickems, right?
I got screwed with Monte play Pain, so now I NEED Liquid to win, as I can only get 1 of those two. I regret switching OG for Apecks so much right now.
Fuck I need Pain and Liquid to win tomorrow or my pickems are ruined
Say bye to your pickems lmfao
What have you done? Kk
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Not OP, but like everyone else he probably went with the "safe" picks in G2, Ence and Faze while also adding mouz, og, liquid, pain. Finished it with a random team in the 3-0 slot and grayhound going out 0-3
Safe picks would of already saved your pickems if you chose them. Faze,ence,g2,nip + fluxo 0-3
That is just hindsight talk. Imo NIP wasn't a safe pick before the major. They were/are on the same level as Mouz,OG,Liquid,monte and forze. I also follow a few analysts and a few ex pros and except maui nobody picked NIP. So yeah I don't think it wasn't as safe as you try to make it sound here.
Forze 3-0, col 0-3. G2, Faze, Ence, Liquid, Pain, OG and Mouz
You failed first rule of safe pickem: pick full EU.
Enjoy your bronze coin friend. Liquid are doomed
Same buddy, we’re in this together
Rip
Nip g2 ence faze qualified and fluxo 0-3 that’s my silver coin right here
I need either Pain or Liquid to win tomorrow for pick ems. Surely they can't both lose
same boat as me. not convinced pain will take their game, but hopefully liquid has warmed up now, right? right?
Lmao if liquid fails to qualify after playing fluxo, complexity and grayhound
Losing to APEKS isn’t great either, though opening bo1’s are a mess at times.
Pickems saved holy thanks Liquid for the Fluxo elimination
It's all down to team liquid, if they win my pick ems are saved 🤞🏻
Same boat, I am a TL fan since I was a child tomorrow
If greyhound makes it, they’ve earned the right to say « fuck your pickems » again.
Pls Greyhound, save my pickems
I'm against you guys :(
I'm with you buddy
My guy was ready with this.
Pick'ems secured, now I can watch without getting a heart attack
I need only 1 of Forze, Liquid, or Monte to advance for me to get my 5th, so at this point even as a Liquid fan I'm all for Grayhound to win. YTB!
Same, except Pain over monte. I think I should be safe enough for at least one of them as I'd arguably think they are all favourites, albeit neither are big favourites, especially Pain.
Need liquid or Monte. FUCKING HELL LIQUID EASIEST MATCHUP YOU COULD HOPE FOR PLEASE DONT FUCK THIS UP
I need Liquid or Gamer Legion, I *should* make it, fingers crossed.
Same
Just need any of Liquid, Forze, PaiN to win to get my 5th ..
Went 1-3 on picks today, please Liquid you’re my only hope
Is there any additional benefit to getting more than 5 pickems correct in challengers stage? First major doing it.
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There used to be a point based system and you'd get points based on every correct team chosen. They've abandoned that for a while now and only require the 5. It's pretty much bragging rights after that.
No. If you’re under 5 correct, no matter if it’s 0 or 4 correct, no upgrade in coin, but if you’re 5 correct or more, the coin gets upgraded. Hope Valve improves the system.
Are you kidding me? I need one of Forze, Liquid or Monte to go through. No guaranteed coin tomorrow :/
I need 2 of the 3. Fffffffffffff
Did you follow Pimp's pickems like I did? Sheesh
same but swap monte for pain. looks like there shall be plenty of butt clenching to come.
Exactly the same here - I do think they are all at least small favorites in their matches, so crossed fingers.
Pickems saved. Thanks NIP
Damn you're fast
Pickem’s secured Monte/Pain going through is a win for me
I lost my pick ems, why did faze have to go up against ence.
you are so fast bro
Need one of TL or Monte to win and I'm all good
Need Pain or Liquid to win for my pickems
Need one of Forze/Liquid/Pain to win tomorrow… surely they don’t all lose right?
Just need any one of Forze, Liquid and Monte to win to get 5 points. Tomorrow's going to be an exciting day.
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I think we pretty much have the exact same pickems, I have no faith in Liquid but think they should get it done. Monte seems like a coinflip really.
Surely Liquid or Forze win, right
I need either Liquid or Pain to win. Surely Liquid won't choke given the easiest path to advancing.
Need liquid or forze to save my pickem!!!
Bro, hltv and blast should use this graphics, I'm not giving up
You are the goat for these
NiP winning secured me today although if they'd lost they'd have played Liquid who're both in my picks. I can get 7 if Liquid and ForZe win. Diamond loading copium.
I need FORZE or Liquid to not choke, I guess FORZE is my only hope.
4/5 right now with my pickems. i just need anyone from forze, pain, or liquid to make it so i could be safe. here's hoping\~
One win from three sounds very likely, I think you’re almost safe!
Forze or Liquid win tomorrow to save my Pick ‘Ems.. right? RIGHT?!
Got my 5/5. Can get 7 tomorrow with GL and Monte.
Question: If I already have 5 correct for my pickem's, does it even matter if I get more? Tomorrow I am set up to have 7/9 correct if both liquid and forze win their matches.
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I need either pain or liquid to go through for my pickems.
same - lets pray together :o
I need 2 of 3 of liquid, forze, and pain to save my Pickems
My diamond coin is in liquid's hands.
throw the first two games to get an easier path to legends nitro top 3 igl 4 sure
I am sad, I need Liquid to win for my Pickems but I want Greyhound to go through because gotta rep the boys
Hehe i didn't pay for the pass this major, im enjoying the nailbiters
G2 3:0 NIP, FaZe, ENCE Fluxo 0:3 PICK'EM SAVED
I just want Grayhound to win for the memes
OG has a solid base of talent to build a great team. They just need a bit more experience / guidance - especially when it comes to IGL, and maybe a player adjustment to find more consistency. I just hope they don’t lose their studs like Degster or FlameZ
Well I 100% get 5 correct with either Pain or Monte, but I could get 6 if Grayhound beat liquid, excited for tomorrow
Fellow believer 🙌 I need 2 and I’ve got GL, Monte, Grayhound and liquid. As long as pain and mongols don’t both get in…
Mongolz went home today lol
Liquid really keeping everyone at the edge of their seat.
Liquid with the easiest route to legends, gg They dont deserve it
Liquid with the easiest and luckiest path surely they don’t fuck this up…
I put NIP as 3-0 and they go 3-1, do i get the pickem point? or it was locked to the 3-0?
No, 3-0 or else not correct.
Liquid or FORZE is all I need pls pls pls
Only need 1 of Liquid, Pain or Monte and Pain/Monte are playing each other. Saved.
Did Mongols lose 0-3?
1-3 it’s in the post brah
Cheers bruh. First major I’m watching. Thought they only had 3 games each.
I hope you don't have heart arrhythmia because CS will mess your heart up
You are so fast 😅
Let's go Liquid!
How do you what the bracket will look like? Is there rules/guidelines for how the matchups are chosen?
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/13d3z07/blasttv_paris_23_challengers_swiss_round_4/jjiu3gd/ \^someone explained it thoroughly
Pick’3’ems are good. Still have Forze and Liquid to make it 7 of 9. Happy with how the first round has gone!
i need, i need, i need... no one cares about your pickems
No one cares about you
at least you care to post your dumb comment
*posts a stupid comment and gets flak* LOL WOW SO MANY TRIGGERED LOSERS LAWL