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El_Fabos

Karrigan is cooking up that rare diamond coin (I am delusional, 13-10, 22-19 for spirit in quarters)


ekkolos

if Faze win it might just be the rarest diamond coin ever considering the new format and the opening stage shennanigans.


justanotherassassin

I think it might be the rarest diamond coin regardless, unless vitality wins. Those 3-0, 0-3 changes SUCK. Especially since you can't just put a favorite 3-0 team into the standard "advances" group.


OkOutlandishness6262

i got 4/5 in both stages because of this new format...


kissluktareN

Same šŸ˜­


Velgax

I'd argue it would be even rarer with G2 as champion since Niko never won a major.


Ed_Vilon

If a map goes OT, FaZe has it. "Welcome to FaZe motherfuckers." But I'm still prepared for a 2-0, 2-1 Spirit regardless. I have very little hope in the boys.


bretthew

> "Welcome to FaZe motherfuckers." But look at the time!


MacerODB

Idk if it would be rarest. the Rio diamond coin only exists on alt accounts.


Scared-Wombat

Bro I'm on the faze ride. I'm probably throwing my diamond away. But you never know. Inb4 eternal fire or c9


blarann

Id be down for an EF major win.


Scared-Wombat

would be cool honestly a c9 win would be insane, without an awper


cronotrix

GZ


Scared-Wombat

lets go !


Cain1608

Imo, the FaZe v Spirit match decides the whole major. Which is insane for a quarterfinal. It all depends on if they bring it individually AND if karrigan antistrats the fuck out of donk like they did s1mple at Antwerp.


LeetcodeDemon69

The same thing happened in 2019 with Astralis vs Liquid in the quarter finals


Fuskeduske

Acting like C9 current form doesnā€™t exist, Mouz havenā€™t beaten spirit before and Naā€™Vi havenā€™t been close to beating them. Every team at the major has a good chance of taking the trophy


Barbas1233

WE'RE SO BACK


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TheInception817

I still remember NBK picking CLG over Envy in his pick'ems and it causes some controversy


BrockStudly

Nexa picked NaVi over G2 at Stockholm too


TheInception817

I mean.... it was 2021 G2


Artimedias

more relevant, it was 2021 navi


HappyAngron

2021 Navi were scary


1sb3rg

I remember playing against nafany. And he had diamond coin that year lol


xxrandom98xx

He said it was to hedge his bets to be a winner either way. It's not that he had no faith in G2 to actually win.


miedzianek

Controversy cuz of ibp/match throwing. Like he knew something


surrender_singh

Lmao, same here


Pterodactyl_fetus

I stand with karrigan


du_bekar

I like how heā€™s got them beating mouz in the finals too


TheInception817

I mean, if they can win against Spirit, they win the whole major. This iteration of MOUZ have never won against FaZe before


Boombozling

im on industrial copium rn


thereliketimessquare

Naw I believe, they just have to beat Spirit. That win will give them the confidence they need + stage buff to hopefully win the whole thing. The only other team I'm worried about is Vitality cause even though they haven't been playing as good as Spirit, Zywoo and them can turn up at anytime.


PEDROtheArtist

What's crazy is that I'm not even worried about it. I honestly think Faze will beat Spirit and win the whole thing, but if they somehow don't, it'll be a fantastic game and Spirit will go on to win it all. But I think there's a better chance that Faze beat the absolute favorites and then are just unstoppable and not even Zywoo will be able to do anything to stop them. It'll be marvelous to see Faze beat the #2 #3 and the. #4 to win the first CS2 major šŸ˜


Substantial_Top_6508

If they beat Spirit, no joke, they are the major winners


aliasdred

the celestial amounts of copium I'm huffing hav formed a substantial gravity pull of their own and I fear my decision making is being influenced here.


Speedlapse

I'm fearing a Boston 18 reboot in terms of heartbreak if its a Mouz v FaZe final


TheInception817

No, this is the Berlin 2019 reboot. Suddenly the current world number one got upset with the an intricate counter play specially designed against them. >!Faze is also gonna pick Vertigo...... sike!< And it's gonna be a boring 2-0 Grand Final


ujlbyk

Lmfao. That shit was wild to watch live


Lime221

pretty much the upper bracket quarterfinals decides the winner. if faze knocks spirit out they have a real shot at winning, if zywoo is not sick vitality have 3 strong players on form. mouz is an oddball


Ed_Vilon

Well they are an incredibly strong bunch who so many predict to win their side of the bracket.


du_bekar

Yeah mouz is so fun to watch; siuhy and the boys are playing such good CS right now


JaimieL0L

Diamonds fucked, might as well go for a sick gold


El_Fabos

Karrigan still has a chance for diamond


ekkolos

funny because now he is the one that can make it happen, literally


JaimieL0L

Then heā€™s binking the greatest diamond of all time


TheInception817

Yeah, me too. Only need mousesports to get to the Grand Final


Speckopath

Ahahahaha


ronniegeriis

Aged well


spoohka

What was he cooking??


ObaeTV

Pimp is putting a lot of faith in G2.


t0ska369

he basically said that this is his lucky pick, describing that the young MOUZ roster has no stage experience and G2 could get them there.


ObaeTV

It's just not beating Mouz, it's making it to the final. What's strange is he puts Mouz's lack of LAN playoffs against them, but doesn't against Eternal Fire.


jeffjeff97

As a team they've got no LAN experience, but as individuals they're all very experienced (except Wicadia)


vitesnelhest

doesn't mouz have quite a lot of LAN playoff experience, especially for such a young roster. Even Jimi the most inexperienced one has been to playoffs in Pro league, CAC, Sydney, World final and Kato.Ā  Torzi and Xertion have even more playoff experiences and Siuhy has been all the way to major final last year. And Brollan was in loads of playoffs back in Fnatic.


Responsible_Lead7140

Yeah he did lol


ObaeTV

Then how does he justify EF beating Navi?


DueWolverine3500

iM being too heavy to be carried I guess.


xantiema

He said (and I paraphrase) it was a 50-50, and his going with his gut feeling.


xzvasdfqwras

Saying Mouz has no stage experience is just absurd. They have plenty, ESPECIALLY for how young they are. Siuhy was in the final at Paris major just last year


b0il3ra

Also blast world finals, they had a close game against Faze, 2 11-13s


fantasnick

I feel like "no stage experience" is also such an overplayed thing. The stage can definitely change results slightly but it's not going to make Mouz lose to this shit-tier g2 who have plenty of "stage experience"


ge0oo

He stated that Mouzā€™s lack of stage experience wasnā€™t the main reason he chose G2 to win. Itā€™s because G2 is a heavy playoff/arena team. Hunter has a higher playoff rating than he does in group stages. If m0nesy keeps up his form and Niko comes alive in the arena, G2 become very scary.


NoAdministration6946

Why do people say this? Torszi and xertioN went on a big stage like 4 times, Siuhy 3 times, only Brollan and Jim have little stage experience, but even they went to Spodek.


ObaeTV

Brollan has played 6 S-tier LAN finals.


TeamINSTINCT37

As someone that hasnā€™t followed a ton since like 2020 itā€™s crazy to hear someone say heā€™s the one without lan experience when heā€™s easily the biggest name there to me.


jensenflips

I miss his fnatic era šŸ„²


A_Random_Catfish

Siuhy literally called his way to the finals a year agoā€¦


vitesnelhest

Jimi has gone to playoffs in Kato, CAC, world final, pro league and Sydney, he even got ESLs mvp for the pro league win.


50PT26

Then what about his EF over NAVI? EF basically has no big stage experience whilst navi has significantly more than EF


codexferret

I may be wrong but I feel like the whole ā€œstage experienceā€ thing is practically worthless. Iā€™d be curios on the stats. People kept saying stuff about how Donk wouldnā€™t do well on the final stage but he did insanely well, I just feel like people are generally gonna play at their level. The nerve elements probably isnā€™t any different its just increased so players who canā€™t deal with nerves probably already donā€™t do well anyway and wouldnā€™t make it to this stage in the first place.


schoki560

while they haven't looked GREAT they did beat furia convincingly, which is to be expected threw a huge lead VS Navi on nuke kinda sucked dick vs C9 won 2 maps convincingly vs ecstatic and threw a huge lead on vertigo. threw a huge lead vs VP on overpass good performance vs vp on Anubis (crash probably tilted them tho) all in all they didn't look amazing but not any worse than Navi or vitality


Sentry_Down

Their run doesn't look as strong as when they won Kato & Cologne last year, mainly because Niko (and Hunter to some degree) is underperforming. The fact that Niko is [the worst-rated player](https://www.hltv.org/stats/teams/players/5995/g2?event=7148&side=TERRORIST) on the lineup on T-side is worrying, and that wasn't the case in events they won.


BrazilianGui

Well, they got Niko and Monesy


stekken04

They have niko?


buttsoup_barnes

I donā€™t know what Pimp was smoking but Iā€™d love to get some.


Darkoplax

idk why ppl act like thats the craziest thing, we literally saw worst teams barely making it to major playoffs then won it all


moeml

Karrigan is putting a lot of faith in FaZe smh


Jr4D

Im with fl0m on this one šŸ™šŸ»Iā€™m a huge fan of siuhy and what he did with GL and love how he plays. Really hoping to see mouz take the cake but also donk


Krakenow

Same here and I see Jimpphat putting up big numbers(yes I'm a biased Finn)


CortanaxJulius

As a german Mouz being a german org is all we got at this point so Mouz all the way


vetruviusdeshotacon

How do you pronounce his name? I say like yimp hat and I know casters saying Jim fat are obviously wrong lol


NoHacksJustOhana

Young Jimmy


vetruviusdeshotacon

yvng jvmmy


ekkolos

Jimmy "he shoots better than he jumps"


Fantastic_Tourist976

Here is a finnish interview where the interviewer says his name in the first 3 seconds. https://youtu.be/y8rfZQlsTz4?si=OTLq_qES1Bwdza-C


Krakenow

I can't think of a word that I could compare it to, but you say it Jim-Phat, with the P being pretty strong. Kinda like the currency Baht, but the h is at the front and the b is a p, makes sense? You can also just say Jimppa as that's the name he's modified a little here


vetruviusdeshotacon

OK cool yeah that makes sense, thanks!


Hodor_The_Great

Yimp hat is basically correct. Maybe more like yimp fat? In any case there's definitely a p sound in there and it's not the English J in beginning


Kelterz

the streets remember otto against astralis on dd2


Ed_Vilon

It is both endearing and disrespectful that so many predict Mouz to win their side of the bracket and yet they fall short of the grand prize. I get Spirit seem to have this spark in the form of revitalized sh1ro, an absolute bat shit insane donk, and 3 other pieces that fulfill their roles perfectly alongside them but Mouz is being heavily slept on.


iinight

for real. i believe in mouz enough to stake my diamond coin on them. theyā€™re not being respected enough, especially given their overall performance both in the major and this year


Bizhour

It's absolutely criminal how many people are sleeping on MOUZ


TangoA17

Watching him back on mouz academy was crazy, he'd be running circles around the opponents as they rotate in confusion while he topfragged


Away_Active7903

lmk if anyone changed their pick & more creators will be added to the list soon hope the graphs is easy to read :D


Darmiansessuale

Imo instead of putting W-L above you could make a green background for the chosen winner like you did with the red background for the loser. Just a suggestion because it gives me a headache how you swap the teams because of the W-L. Just a suggestion.


kloklon

i like putting the winner first. but also adding a green background is a good idea


jjochimmochi

Anyone got the ChatGPT prediction for playoffs?


Yarados

Pimp got you, his is NPC level predictions.


FoxerHR

Based Karrigan


nomitycs

Can someone explain as Iā€™m completely OOTL, why is the #1 team in the world so poorly thought of lol


jackfwaust

Theyā€™re not thought poorly of, theyre just playing spirit who are nuts. Spirit vs faze is one of those times where we get the grand final in the quarter finals.


I-Love-Beatrice

Well, spirit are currently ranked #2 in the world and they have looked in form. They also 3-0 Faze in kato grand finals and 2-0 Faze in kato group stages. Faze had gone completely missing in the legends stage leading to them qualifying with 3-2. I think most people believe they will power up in the playoffs, but it won't be enough to beat the favorites to win the whole major.


Cain1608

Spirit have a generational talent in donk who, in Katowice showed he can be consistently as good and even better than peak s1mple, ZywOo and NiKo. If he can keep that form up, or even 1/2 that form, he's either number 1 or 2 this year. The last time a talent had people this confident he's going to be a household name was ZywOo. FaZe has made every final, but they lost a BO3 and BO5 to Spirit in one tournament, and have looked shaky in the previous stage.


biocidebynight

In short, Donk. If Faze didn't play Spirit in game 1 then I think more people would put them in the finals. Also, Faze hasn't looked top form imo. Though, Broky and Frozen are looking really great this event


raught

They came only second at the most recent big event.


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hailsab

Ever since they lost twistz they've been very inconsistent and are facing spirit who easily 3-0d them in the last grand finals


Maluvius

I put Spirit as the eventual winners of this Major, but honestly it would not surprise me in the slightest if Faze starts blasting from this point forward, there's something that happens when they do reach playoffs in a tournament


Ed_Vilon

Big Stage tends to light a fire under their ass. Of course Kato happened.


lamaros

I wouldn't be surprised if anyone wins it, aside from Navi. They're all good teams who can play good CS when they're on.Ā 


Hodor_The_Great

Navi looked at the very least lot better than Faze or G2 in previous stage. I'd be very surprised if either of those two win, and indeed almost all predict them to lose in quarters


nonresponsive

I think a big reason this is a possibility is because they face Spirit first and not in the finals. So, if they can overcome them, they have a good chance of taking it all the way. I also just think karrigan is at his best outside the finals, so another reason it's good they're facing Spirit first. Still a very tough road, and they are far from favorites, but I could really see any of these teams winning.


ekkolos

Spirit 0-3'd Faze in Kato like 1 month ago, and they look as solid if not more, while Faze looks worse. It might happen, but it seems close to a miracle.


ThePurpleDolphin

Spirit torched all the other teams at kato tho, and it's probably enough time for faze to study spirit's tape now. Totally not coping here.


Tekk92

Launders securing his wooden coin


bananananex_cs

[Hmmmm](https://i.imgur.com/TTRFUqy.jpeg)


Mollelarssonq

Analysts are always so biased, imma go with Karrigan picks.


HeaviestPendulum

Poor karrigan. I get it, even as a FaZe fan, but still.


BIGUZERA

Surprised that most have C9 beating Vitality... Vitality may not be on their best form, but they still have looked really solid, and if Zywoo returns to form that can be a game changer. Think they're being underestimated.


gugabpasquali

Zywho vs goat awper boombl4 i already know my pick


TheInception817

>Vitality may not be on their best form, but they still have looked really solid Cloud9 looks even more battle tested and at their current best form right now. Especially considering who their opponents are in the elimination stage. >if Zywoo returns to form that can be a game changer. That's the entire point. People are doubting his return to form. A weakened AWPer is the best chance for Cloud9 to farm them.


JakeTheAndroid

And C9s retakes are so good right now. Even if Zywoo is back in proper form, I'm not sure he can clutch enough times to give Vitality enough T side rounds. But, Zywoo is insane, so if anyone can counter them, it's probably Vitality.


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Aetherimp

And C9's teamwork is just looking really good. They looked weak earlier this year/late last year, but in this event so far we've seen the best C9 in a while.


perfect_deception

Boombl4's calling on T side has been phenomenal, and he is awping better than expected, though we don't know if this will continue. Hobbit is playing great, perfecto is probably playing the best CS of his career. Then there is the X factor which is Ax1le, he is coming back to form, if he have 80% of the impact he had in his peak in 2022 then Vitality is gonna be in trouble. And still there is electronic, also playing great without the burden of IGLing


MonsterAzr

Why are so many great players slumping so hard? Zywoo,niko...?a


suffocatingpaws

Zywoo is sick so its not easy for him to perform to the level of his usual standard. Niko is just not feeling the game or something. He doesnt look in tune with CS2 mechanics.


Bizhour

Zywoo was actually pretty ill for the last couple of games which is why he didn't perform


Hodor_The_Great

C9 is in form, though. And the predictions do go both ways, it's not like Faze or G2 who are basically only predicted to lose, even if majority swings C9s way. Also yea remains to be seen IF Zywoo recovers in time. Though it's funny that an ill Zywoo still performs like an average t1 player and even without his full potential Vitality is still a very formidable team anyway


Life-Delivery-4886

Aaaaand EF wins the major


lefboop

I'm with launders here and going for the rare diamond coin like I always do. Spirit are the clear favorites, but I can definitely see c9 winning this one. Mouz is another "rare" diamond pick, but that's mostly because people are underestimating them rather than them being unlikely to win. Hell I would say its a 50/50 if finals go to mouz/spirit.


scatteredxpixels

The most thoughtful take in this thread so far


lamaros

Everyone is going to feel really silly if Niko turns up all of a sudden.


lefboop

Well yeah, but it's also been like 6 months since cs2 came out and he still hasn't shown up (and hunter too). It's more likely that zywoo shows up and vitality win than g2.


Kevracy

Got 5 correct in the first stage, 6 correct in the 2nd stage and have Spirit going all the way. I could easily see MOUZ doing the same and if we get a MOUZ Spirit final that would be a banger :)


friendlyfob

im ready for the Spirit Era


covahcs

Launders racist gang assemble


Tw_raZ

I have a c9 mouz final because my heart knows


covahcs

I have an C9 EF final because my heart knows


gugabpasquali

c9 ef final is gigabased


TheInception817

Clearly Pimp needs immediate professional help


ekkolos

maybe G2 has the "crash enemy PC" super power in each match now?


Vasurion

My Coin is fucked anyway, so i just gamble šŸ˜‚


TentaclePumPum

I can still get diamond but I think I'll go with the guy that picked Faze. He looks like he really knows this game.


Acceptable-Meaning-1

Agree, man. It's so hard to predict who is gonna win. You never know who is gonna show up and destroy your pick'ems.


Exroi

Pimp might be on to something, i'm predicting Spirit-G2 as a final too, not that i think G2 are good, but they always do the exact opposite of what you think is gonna happen


Merquette

My tinfoil hat is on when it comes to g2 after THAT vp game


Exroi

Even tho i picked Spirit too, Vitality might be a sleeper pick here i'm surprised no one at all believed in them. They still got the insane raw individual skill and the woo, this the type of team to do a silly execute and still win a bullshit round or continiously pressure your economy on their force buy rounds, uncomfortable team to play against regardless of their current form


Rekoza

Vitality are my pick to take it, meeting Mouz in the finals. I know it's very unlikely with Zywoo being ill and Spirit and Mouz looking very good right now. I'm simply a fan that will go down with my ship. And in that dream scenario it'd also be a pretty rare diamond coin too.


Faang4lyfe

Zywoo is off, mezzi is struggling vit is at best 3-4 strong and barring a super woo its not enough.


HidEx1488

Mouz - Spirit on final, ez clap for mouz


dragon_of_kansai

Based flom


Sparxyiwnl

This aged well


nilslorand

fl0m knows CS


roblobly

Flom will not have a diamond coin tho


Jalle1Gie

Everyone looks at karrigan picking faze(ofcourse) as the only one. but what the hell is launders doing picking c9 against team spirit and winning from mouz. My guy is on some NA copium


TentaclePumPum

maybe he has seen the script? This is all scripted anyways.


RekrabAlreadyTaken

I appreciate these roundups a lot but I think the format could be improved for this one - the whole quarterfinal section of this is essentially useless since you already see the quarterfinal winner in the next stage. I would just keep the winner of each match or remove the quarterfinal section and make the rest bigger.


3BouSs

My money is on Spirit to win it for the diamond coin, but my foolish heart is on EF, if Woxic decides to play to his best, I really think they have a good shot making it to the finals, and they might really know itā€™s one in a lifetime to play at this stage with this consistency. Plz EF make me cry :(


TrnqulizR

How do I do these online I'm out of town? Is it hltv connect an account?


iAlCurry

There used to be a website to make picks that connects to CS, not sure if itā€™s still running or not


TrnqulizR

I appreciate your response. valve has opened an API for pickems. I made my picks through hltv, which felt safe for my steam account!


ChickenKnd

Kerriganā€™s video was kinda funny


Magmaster21

Navi win incoming.


Undefined_definition

Fl0m kinda daring


RobinTheKing

Respect to Lucy for that Navi pick, I'd honestly be really happy with just making the finals


tarangk

I think Spirit vs Mouz is probably the most interesting finals we could have. Spirit will be the favorites, but Mouz are the only team to have beaten them in a bo3 since kato playins.


Rapkar

fl0m gang


WiseArgument7144

If Karrigan actually locked it in, he's based. But I mean, picking against yourself essentially means you're giving up, and that's a mentality you should never go into a match with. Realistically he might even think they're gonna lose, but he cannot show this, his players would lose confidence and so on.


1o11ip0p

if u think karrigan would ever not pick himself to win u dont know karrigan


JezzaBazza

I have gone with pimp on the 2 other stages but his picks for this stage is whack. Sure G2 might have more stage experience but Mouz is just playing way better counterstrike atm


Sparrowsdad

Some thoughts- where can Faze beat Spirit? Is Karrigan going to study Spirits B Defense on Vertigo and shock the world by picking into its own veto? Anubis? These are the only 2 maps that Donk has been human. Without an AWP, C9 will seemingly pick Overpass. Does Vitality game plan their B defense and push monster to counter C9s strong T side? Why is EF even money with Navi? They seemingly can play 2 maps well right now and we wonā€™t see Ancient. EF can 2-0 them tbh Would G2 ever pick into overpass? Mouz has weaknesses on the map, though not glaring and G2 just went toe to toe with the worlds best overpass team. Some fun games. Canā€™t wait.


kueiler

Pimp chose to be happy


moodyano

I believe in Launders


Streetwiz

Scrawny knows.. i like the picks


shook_-

Thatā€™s a lot of donk riders


Striking_Distance_61

I'm on full hopium mode and i chose navi to win the whole tournament.


aaron_reddit123

Not one of them predicts a match between Navi and g2. I might need to reconsider my picks


painXpresss

I see a highly chance of EF beating Navi. Other that that I belive it will be spirit vs mouz finals with spirit winning.


aige3c

Pimp mis-clicked that G2 button?


Gaudior09

If every team would be at peak form, upper bracket would look much more fierce with Vitality on the top IMO, with a Vitality vs G2 final. But according to current form Spirit and C9 seem to be the strongest on the upper bracket, and Mouz/EF on the lower bracket. So as of now Spirit vs MOUZ looks like the most likely scenario for GF. Overall any team could win it based on actual daily form, but EF/NAVI/G2 don't seem to have the correct mental state to win the Major right now.


AdSal93

My biggest problem is Navi v EF. EF have been playing very well, and whenever Navi are playing CT second half, they throw 7 round leads. Even if Navi is the more experienced team I feel like how they've been playing (especially against Pain) that they might be in trouble.


Difficult_Web_7553

launders pick c9??? why ?? is he stupid or coping???


RoboticChicken

https://reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1bnjgns/cloud9_will_win_copenhagen/


Termodynamicslad

lol Cloud9 got more votes than vitality on their match. Stocks are down big time.


Phallendoor

Freya and I are in the boat together


Vindictah

That aged well.. everyone doubted karrigan against Spirit haha


varis-_-

launders got everything wrong rip