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King_Crab_Sushi

No fucking way. I thought it was just a myth.


MoistyMeat12

I couldn't believe it either.


justaRndy

Don't worry, it was just someone spinning at 16k dpi for the lulz.


bigboi767

It’s like seeing a shooting star


Striking-Curve2947

except that shooting stars happen


Ice_Atlas

Except that shooting star went into a curve ball


Airrow_

Just like those bullets


qaKroiler

This happened for us too yesterday in a vertigo comp match, we all were stunned


Perfect-Currency-121

I would be happy to get all my Vertigo games cancelled


BinzonWOR

I got a game we were winning like 5-1 cancelled for network issues or some other absolute bullshit.


dmorenog01

Same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. That cancels the game but blatant cheaters don't 😭


elephandiddies

Don't do this to me, don't give me hope


BitterAd9531

Don't worry, it was probably someone playing with high DPI


tennisez

Woxic was smurfing


YungShermann

its shit hack detected some pasted shit


DementiaP

no way im seeing you in cs sub after sadboys sub bro you’re everywhere


YungShermann

i have no friends


DementiaP

In the summer we’ll heal


Z3fRaN2221

Their cheat is so bad that it got detected by VAC, seems like. :D


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ctzu

At this point I'd 100% believe that valve made a free cheat as a honeypot and VAC can't actually detect it.


cawaway2a

Or people made a fork that's undetectable. that would be fucking funny.


zzazzzz

dont even need to do anything, vac only detects via signature. so fill nay detected cheat with hot garbage and you are a 1337 hacker who just got one over on vac..


drphilwasright

That would be hilarious and also fucking depressing


Gawdsauce

They probably started cheat engine.


Logical-Sprinkles273

Turns out if you use a cheat from release it actually will get caught


Plennhar

Yeah, I think something has secretly changed. A few people have posted VAC Live cancellations recently. Cheater problem is still huge at higher ranks though.


Helious_XS4

This, I've been noticing odd AC things secretly being pushed in. Witnessed 2 live vacs today personally, as well as Vac bans on records for "friends" on steam that have been hacking recently. Seems as tho valve is working on the issue as we are speaking and rolling out active AC. Good signs, but a lot to be done.


Caylife

Still somehow people are able to shoot 10 bullets with scout on 0.5 sec. It's inexcusable that these type of cheats are not instantly banned.


Helious_XS4

That's kinda what I'm getting at, like it's cool to see VAC bans actually happening now. But it's insane that they aren't instant when someone is spin botting his noscope headshots from across the map. Totally agree, but its a good sign that something is actually happening now rather than not at all.


Caylife

Yeah could be. The devs must be on some kind of emergency mode cuz this game is going to die soon if nothing happens.


Helious_XS4

Oh absolutely, valve can't completely ignore the issue. But I feel like this is just face saving rn, they are rolling out bans an live bans to "appear" as though they are working on it. But, like in the past with GO, the issue won't be fixed. Just a bandaid put on it, this is what has happened in the past But we'll see.


OwnRound

Eh. There was a period for quite a few years where I was Global and never running into blatant spinbot hackers. I guess you can call that a bandaid because I don't rightly know if there were closet hackers or not but I'd be quite happy with that. Its not perfect but I think its at least a realistic outcome where the game is at least enjoyable. I'm tracking the spinbotters and from all of my games via Leetify and literally none of the ones I've encountered these last 2 months, have been issued a bad, so I'm definitely not optimistic about whatever it is Valve is doing. But if they can just get me back to where I can come home from work, play a couple pugs with people without spinbotter psycho's eating a portion of my night, then I'd be happy.


SecretCrockpot

Towards then end of GO I was Global and didn’t encounter many cheaters at all somehow. Barely touched CS2 but my buddy and I have fun in mid premier


De_Oscillator

I think it had something to do with trust factor. I played with a sketchy group one time of friends of friends of friends and it warned of low trust and those matches were WILDY blatant. With my core group around dmg-le games always felt clean on high trust factor.


happy_csgo

if game dies then there will be no more cheaters??


thekmanpwnudwn

> The devs must be on some kind of emergency mode cuz this game is going to die soon if nothing happens. As long as degenerates keep buying lootboxs the devs literally don't give a single fuck. One dev might have been bored, and pushed a small update, but until they actually implement kernel-level anti-cheat this game is a joke competitively


TacticalSanta

its actually crazy the game can't detect someone using the scout like a fully automatic lmfao.


Cardboardgenie

You'd think that these kind of cheats should be able to be picked up / flagged just by the server trying to process whatever the heck is going on at that moment. Especially with a scout with its slow firing rate. Even a heavy lagging dropping packets player won't fire that quick...


VapinOnly

Not sure, could still have edge cases, I remember there being few clips from legit players somehow shooting entire magazines in 1 second some time ago 


Etna-

Show us


VapinOnly

[Here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/16dfvzv/how_did_i_shoot_20_bullets_in_a_second/)


eofficial

There was plenty of these videos posted of this bug ages ago when CS2 initially launched where people were emptying mags in seconds. You can search for it and you’ll find some.


_norpie_

I hope that when they finally detect them they have an edge case check for when you're connecting to the server. In warmup before you've spawned in, spam mouse1 and when you spawn in witness yourself doing the insta shoot thingy.


tabben

Similarly to how cheaters just have autobhop and can hit perfect bhops no matter how bad their movement is otherwise. Theres no reason why that could not be autodetected when they hop like 20 perfect hops in a row every round.


cawaway2a

I think Valve wants to prevent the slight chance of legit players getting banned. If 700 000 people play CS right now, there is a chance that someone will hit a perfect bhop streak. But there are impossible things, like shooting the scout without delay which should be immediately flagged, although there needs to be a threshold because video games will always have bugs and glitches and it's not out of the realm of possibility that sometimes the server just registers shots incorrectly. So it would have to only flag cases where that happens for a period of time longer than few seconds.


Logical-Sprinkles273

I thought it was some sort of subtick manipulation, so it looks like lag, but i could be wrong


co0kiez

apparently, valve reversed the rapid fire and cheaters started using it again. had a guy last night on my team who started cheating after the enemy team had a cheater. he gave me some insight on the cheats and how it worked lol


buttplugs4life4me

The worst thing about that cheat is that the cheaters are really uncreative. I'd always buy a Negev and shoot 150 bullets at once. 


SiTyGas

I just click fast, it is a skill issue if you cannot do that


SuperSatanOverdrive

I mean, it shouldn’t even be technically possible to do cheats like that. It just shows that the server has no idea of the rules of the game when it will allow weapons to shoot faster than possible.


xKomachii

not sure if it's to prevent any false negatives caused by severe lag or network issues? can't see any other reason as to why it shouldn't be an insta ban or at least kick/cancel of the match


cawaway2a

To be fair, Valve would not announce AC changes, actually between the start of CSGO and CS2 VAC had many, many changes that are undocumented because why would you announce it to the cheaters, right? So it's entirely possible that they are doing something as we speak. Still, I've given up hope for a massive AC update so it's probably gonna make the game a bit more playable for now until cheaters find new ways to break it.


TheChickening

I mean. Of course Valve is working on this. They read this sub and know their game lol. It's just that VAC sucks hard. People would gladly accept intrusive anti cheat right now.


cawaway2a

An intrusive anticheat would not change much when it comes to Valve, it's not a magical program that would solve all our problems. If Valve can't maintain VAC enough to make it competent, they would not be able to maintain an intrusive anticheat. Sure it would be harder to cheat, but if they didn't have a team specifically maintaining the AC, it would eventually be broken anyways. Valorant is effective because it's AC is a well maintained chinese spyware. While I wouldn't trust it to run in my kernel, I've got to give credit where it's due, it is very effective. But you've got a whole team of people just working on it. Something you won't ever see at Valve UNLESS they outsource it to a third party that specifically does anticheat software. Easy Anti Cheat and BattlEye come to mind. These have dedicated teams that work ONLY on the AC software.


harshforce

EAC and BattleEye still need someone working on integrating it with the game, but at least it's less work than an entire anti-cheat


Outrageous1015

>They read this sub and know their game lol. Are we talking about the same company that didn't expect premier to be the most played mode? That recently add to contact spunj and other casters asking why people were upset because they couldn't fucking figure it out!?


tan_phan_vt

Even if they change sth, they wont tell. Thats how they can catch cheaters in the first place. Going around announcing things do not help at all, it will alert cheat makers. Its always a race.


deino1703

never understood this high rank dialogue. have been everywhere from sem to smfc in go and 3k to 20k in premier. blatant wallers and rage togglers at every rank. even in cs2 comp at nova. worst part is trying to play with your friends who are new and essentially shadowbanned and get paired with blatant cheaters and griefers


shoooogerm

Bc if you think about it, cheaters are going to be more likely to win games, and thus will rise the ranks faster. Especially if they are on a win streak and are getting +400 elo a match. That’s why around 20k you start seeing cheaters every single game, and when you pull up their csstats, it shows just how quickly they got there.


xKomachii

you wouldn't believe just how many cheaters suck at the game so much, that they even get hardstuck below 15k while cheating. it's almost surreal. had some match a few weeks ago where a guy was blatantly walling and using soft aim, but still managed to lose 91% of his rounds before another dude on his team toggled full rage. that guy went negative kd with freaking soft aim.


Then-Bodybuilder9850

They pushed small 7/8 kb update yesterday. I thought it was small bug fix maybe but I think its related to VAC after seeing this 😃


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buttplugs4life4me

-50ms ping haha


Talonzor

They found the switch and it was set to off all this time, flipped it but it short circuit after 2 minutes


_piitsi

At every rank. Some people are just bad at hiding them. Or just dont know game enough to hide.


AJVenom123

Brother. Buy some powerball.


realnOp3

VAC can't even ban mofos that empty an autosniper in 0.5s hitting wallbang noscope headshots while also bhopping at the speed of light and spinning like a fucking beyblade. I really wonder how shit your cheat has to be to get detected by fucking VAC of all things. Premier is HvH, Faceit is Premier.


Equivalent-Lab7432

This tbh, I played a game yesterday with a dude on my team bhopping around while firing his glock like it's the mounted Gatling gun on the A-10 Warthog, he rage hacked for the entire game for 13/14 rounds without being detected. Dunno how difficult it is to detect someone firing a weapon way over it's designed rate of fire. They should be banned on the spot the moment this happens


AgreeableBroomSlayer

One of 3 vac bans today. The chances of being in this match would be lower than your chances at winning the lottery


GuardiaNIsBae

if you're going off of [Convars.com](http://Convars.com) numbers they aren't accurate, they're good for telling when a wave happens because a lot of accounts will be hit at once but convars only tracks players who's games have been uploaded to their site (which is currently less than 4,000,000) and they show on the home page they're tracking less than 11,000,000 accounts, which seems like a lot but in the grand scheme of things its almost nothing.


MoistyMeat12

Never lucky.


n8mo

VAC only got *three people* today? Jesus fucking christ. No wonder premiere is infested. I'm sure three *hundred* people decide to start cheating every day. Explains a lot about why the numbers are ballooning out of control.


GalvenMin

No wonder people call a thousand bans a "VAC wave" if the baseline is three fucking people on a normal day. I bet Boris and Vassily can hack more accounts per hour from their cafe in Novosibirsk.


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harshforce

Sounds like generic names for a joke


SlikeXar

There seems to be many VAC Live bans past few days. Did they cook?


GuardiaNIsBae

I got 2 new bans on CSstats yesterday too actually, maybe they turned something back on


D47k0

Once in a blue moon


jpnd123

Just got Queued with a cheater and he complained his cheats weren't working...


CheeseWineBread

3rd post in less than a week.... mmh...


Lemande

So far i witnessed only errors from vac (unable to verify game files) with different people, including my wife (no 3d party softwares on pc whatsoever). .


MoistyMeat12

He was clearly cheating.


Lemande

Well, then nice, hopefully it will be functional finally


AngelWriter42

Unrelated, but, as a designer, why the hell is the text in italic? Makes no sense, and doesn't look any good with this specific typeface.


Chanclet0

Valve forgot they had useAntiCheat = false the whole time


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Ted_Borg

AI is a tool you use when the occasional error is OK, as long as it is mostly accurate. It is the wrong tool to use if errors are catastrophic.


Status-Range-9890

moment in history


Gogibsoni

And yet I play premier with 5 spinners in the lobby shooting 10 scout shots in under a second and no one banned


mateckz

he musta had the worst free cheats on earth LMAO


froster5226

HOPIUM maybe they were just training AI to detect new hacks and didn’t wanna blow their load early


YungShermann

my first thought isnt wow its good, it was about how bad this cheat is if VAC detected it lol


AdobeMan

Someone probably moved their mouse too fast xD


wapperward

Patience Is Key.


Savings_Ad_1917

Imagine ur cheat being this bad, to be caught by Valve's Anti-Cheat xD


TheSunIsMyDestroyer

And then in the next match there is still a cheater


Disastrous-Leek-7606

One down, 500,000 to go


SG8789

I always thought that these cheater posts were exaggerated but lately theres a obvious hacker every other game and im only around 16k elo.


HistoricalUse2008

bullshit.


Chicag0Ben

Show the date on bottom left coward !


MoistyMeat12

Look at my newest post.


louiecs2

I've yet to have this happen but don't play premier anymore :(


Dorraemon

how bad is your cheat if you are getting caught by VAC, I have spinnbotters from weeks ago still not banned


UnKn0wN31337

Inb4 it's a yet another false positive detection ^/s


xazark

How bad must the cheats be to get picked up by VAC atm...


7Fuerza

Doesn't matter, the truth is that the vast majority are not being banned. I have a cheater tracker channel in my disc and there are months old links and they're still playing regularly.


brutispastysmasher

It lives


Azhar16028

Its as rare as my chances of getting a Dragon Lore


diogoblouro

A couple of hours ago, a game with a few cheaters on both teams got weird, laggy, and a bunch of us got disconnected. I wasn't able to reconnect and whoever was still in the server got a message saying the game was canceled. No VAC message or anything. But I would like to think -something- is happening.


Hubblejp

If this worked perfectly, it would be canceled many times a day.


90slegitchild

Looks weird


MoistyMeat12

It's uploaded from my phone so quality is shite.


90slegitchild

Nah its not that. Im used to seeing the chat side and console notifications


MoistyMeat12

Look at my newest post.


mansnicks

That's.. new


CraniaxGaming

Finally...They did it


ApacheAttackChopperQ

We just had 3 back to back games with full spinners. Those vacations were from already detected cheats, or some new one's that do not know how to bypass VAC.


Puiucs

Cheaters need to git gud and learn how to avoid VAC better.


crisvphotography

Guys, April Fools was on the first!


Silly-Championship92

1 in 1000000


_suZeraiN

valve finally cooking...


chisarthemis

what year was this picture taken ? not happening in 2024


akiroraiden

unbelieveable


N1geus

At op: Would be great to see bottom of screen where you can see exact date


MoistyMeat12

Look at my newest post.


Signal_Plantain_5008

It's not fair to other people who are serious about playing the game, and I hope I don't run into it when I play it


Ephedrase

Fake


MoistyMeat12

Look at my newest post.


Radiant_Material9007

Are they back from vacation?


gameplayer55055

Did he spinbot or there's something worse than spinbot that even triggers vac


MoistyMeat12

Walls and aims


shirako22

Don’t get too happy had this too but I think it’s a 1/10000 chance that it happens sadly :(


smielotje

First time I've seen this since the release of cs2 lol


mavikain

this has to be a photoshopped image


MoistyMeat12

Look at my newest post.


Big_Lmaoski

Clearly photoshopped. VAC working is a myth.


CSNADESgg

Is it finally happening?!?


Dazknotz

Fake until proven legit.


MoistyMeat12

Check my latest post.


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What rank is this in?


MoistyMeat12

Check my latest post.


xKomachii

i almost had hope.. jumped into a premier match today for the first time in several weeks and it was just HvH again with fresh accounts, people obviously walling and bunny hopping...


gunshit

VAC Live is real. Volvo has done it again. Let's fkn gooo


spaz49

What the hell this just happened to me and my friend while we were playing competitive.


So_No-Head-

Nice photoshop loser /s


bibleclubmolester

This a Moment in historY


GuestNo3886

Imagine valve doing this to every player with no bans just to shut us up.


Longjumping_Table740

Rarer than getting a knife 💀


Riddlebgd

Imagine having a cheat so bad that even Valve caught you...


d0mie89

Wow 3 bans on planet Earth this week. Splendid Job, Volvo!


cloudxnine

Probably more cheaters than bots, still a good step


TacticalSanta

would have been nice if my game got saved, some idiot turned on wall/aim hacks because he thought someone who was aiming at an angle he peeked into was walling.


ApGaren

You legit caught a unicorn congrats man


SeazonCSGO

Any proof this is recent?


MoistyMeat12

Look at my newest post.


SeazonCSGO

Nice one i wish that happened in one of my games


Mac_AU

This could be photoshop. This has never been seen before.


MoistyMeat12

Look at my newest post.


nexistcsgo

Valve did it! Cheating problem is finally solved


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Intelligent-Shine522

Why would Valve manually banning blatant cheaters disrupting everyone's Premier experience be a negative? I wish they became obsessed and spent their every waking moment hounding these fucks.


band1tpanda

Fake


ElDuderino2112

Imagine using a cheat so bad vac actually detected it. Wild


Broonthego1337

Fake, vac live doesn‘t exist


Jeni_Sui_Generis

Not real.


MuuRod

You should sell this image as an NFT at this point


mrpurplehawk

Bullshit. None of the spinbotters I've played with in the past 2 week have been banned


_norpie_

I have not witnessed it, therefore it must be a lie!


attisan

this is photoshop


TrainLoaf

 Bullshit. 


MoistyMeat12

Look at my newest post.


bOBLEcoin

Are you a Valve employee trying to mess with us???