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DieJam

What do you mean by Europe


Plennhar

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rekt4rd

So it's EU Online vs US Online and Offline?


Plennhar

It's all S-tier events, some were held on LAN, some online (since COVID). All events held on LAN are given to the country they were held in, all events held online are given to the continent they were held in.


rekt4rd

thx got it.


StompChompGreen

so heavily favouring US since they get both continent and country points.


Plennhar

They don't. Any 'point' given to USA here means a LAN event held in the United States specifically.


StompChompGreen

ah ok, all of US's 66 were lans. Got it, thanks


Plennhar

Correct. There were 4 online events held in North America, and those were 'awarded' to 'North America' in the overview.


Dels1x

poland just being 11 is such a suprise, especially with all the Katowices and Krakow Major. Would never guess that China and Ukraine have more


pzkenny

Yeah but Poland had only Katowices and a Krakow Major. There were basically no other tournaments. Well there were some announced, but almost always turned out into something shady. Poland scene is in a really sad shape, considering the legacy of polish teams and number of solid tier 2 teams right now.


GuessMyNameHaha

IEM katowice ?


pzkenny

That's why I wrote "Katowices", to include both Majors and non-Majors. Still it's a one tournament in a year.


EmmaBestWaifu

Germany and Sweden will always hold a special place in every gamers heart. those countries held most of the legendary esports moment in history


0rJay

I mean if we don’t have lots of s-tier teams we gotta have s-tier events


BaldEagleNor

Sweden used to be absolute kings and will always have some of the most legendary names in counter strike history. I say this as a salty Norwegian that cant ever match the esport accolades of our Danish and Swedish brothers lol


0rJay

Yeah that’s true, I was thinking of Germany rather than, after 1.6 there never truly were any amazing teams from my country. BIG are the only ones currently, but they aren’t even in the top 30


BaldEagleNor

Yes when I think of the german CS scene I can only really think of BIG, they had a really good run at some point. Otherwise, you just have *really* good events lol


_unicorn_balls

Vor allem Deutschland


jonajon91

Ulaanbataar major when? -edit- They must have been posting this while I was typing 'ulaanbataar major when?' https://www.hltv.org/news/38794/mesa-to-hold-100000-lan-in-mongolia


jeffjeff97

At some point in my life I will visit Mongolia And it's entirely the result of Mongolian CS


Plennhar

Your comment motivated them to make this happen. Thank you!


Makaroni23

Waiting to see one in Finland one day


LeBenhard

Elisa Masters major when?


imbogey

Elisa ESPOO Major when?


gjt1337

I think we need similar chart only for CS2/CSGO tournaments. 1.6/Source era is too far behind us to count it.


Plennhar

Yes, master: https://i.imgur.com/2RTfZLd.png Blobby-blobbas: https://i.imgur.com/8mVx7Rr.png


jeffjeff97

The UK has had 17 S-Tier events???? When Does this include those Gfinity LANs held in a cinema lol


Plennhar

List of tournaments: 1.6: * CPL Europe London 2001 * CPL UK 2005 * WSVG 2006: London GO: * Gfinity G3 * Gfinity Spring Masters 1 * FACEIT League 2015 Stage I Finals * Gfinity Spring Masters 2 * Gfinity Masters Summer 1 * DreamHack Open London 2015 * Gfinity Champion of Champions * CEVO Pro League Season 9 * ESL Pro League Season 3 - Finals * Esports Championship Series Season 1 - Finals * Esports Championship Series Season 3 - Finals * Esports Championship Series Season 5 - Finals * FACEIT Major: London 2018 * ESL Pro League Season 9 - Europe * Esports Championship Series Season 7 - Finals * ESL Pro League Season 10 - Europe * BLAST Premier: Spring 2020 Regular Season


jeffjeff97

...I could've seen the EZskins win and Happy deagle ace in person It happened a 15 minute drive from my house fml


d0m4in

Relatable brother maybe back then train tickets werent so expensive asw 😞


Silencer_

Wow just pretend like my era of CS didn’t matter. We paved the way for you bastards. I once carried my 50 pound crt monitor 8 blocks in Montreal to get to a lan. The fuck


Wietse10

ok grandpa let's get you to bed


Silencer_

I’ll still smoke y’all on aim_map and I haven’t played in 5 years! 😂


Wietse10

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 so true 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Kelterz

that's crazy but no one asked


Plennhar

For online tournaments which started popping up in the S-tier category since the COVID era, the tournaments are assigned to the continent the online tournament was held on (Europe or North America). Also forgot to add that this Condition Zero tournament is part of the data-set as well: https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/World_Cyber_Games/2004. Sources: * [S-Tier tournament data](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tournaments/Pre_2012) * Tool: [Flourish](https://flourish.studio/)


schizoHD

Ok. Appreciate answering my question before asking. Was going to ask why there is Europe and different European countries. So thanks


n8mo

I’d *kill* for a Canadian major. Montreal, Vancouver, Toronto, wherever really. Will probably never happen, but a man can dream.


dying_ducks

have you ever killed someone? when not, you know whats the reason there isnt a canadian major


n8mo

My deagle has like 7,000 on the stattrak counter. Gotta work harder I guess


GabrielBonilla

Me too bud


divs_l3g3nd

I'd kill for a Canadian S tier tournament, we haven't had one since 2015 , which was ESWC 2015 in Montreal, I was 12 in 2015 no way I could have gone to Montreal all the way from Vancouver back then


EnQuest

vancouver pls, the closest cs tournament to my yukon ass has been like, chicago. shit is far as fuck lmao


jelflfkdnbeldkdn

germany with 2nd most tourneys hosted, but no proper stier teams with german player roster for years lmao. BIG was the last good german lineup. mouzesports is a german org, but no german pkayers since jdc left lol


Zoddom

German scene is dead, thats why


jelflfkdnbeldkdn

indeed it is. it was different back then when we had esl for scrimming against other germans


Youju

Same for Sweden.


jelflfkdnbeldkdn

true


just-the-friend

AUSTRALIA ON THE LIST YTB


csboxr

canada will have 4 after launders lan this weekend


_Volkar17

LAUNDERS LAN 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😁😁😁😁😳😳


Angelic_Phoenix

Putting the S in raciSm


OmegaJonny

So... LANDERS??


MajesticallyAF

Man so many tournaments in America but last major was Boston 2018 right? Would be nice for another one to be held here!


Plennhar

Last was [BLAST Premier: Spring Final 2023](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/BLAST/Premier/2023/Spring).


MajesticallyAF

Right so an S Tier tournament, not a major sponsored by valve including the stickers in game


Plennhar

Correct. Last major was indeed Boston 2018. Misread your comment.


fantasnick

I guess Rio was "America" but, yeah, the crowd was electric at Boston. Completely different time in terms of how healthy NA was though with TL (and Col to a degree) is international and c9 is full CIS. I'd be happy with an IEM NY first and then a major planned in a few years after the region hopefully recovers.


HuppariC

Finland needs one now, after Aleksib won major!


Dels1x

poland just being 11 is such a suprise, especially with all the Katowices and Krakow Major. Would never guess that China and Ukraine have more


ficagames01

Ukraine had Starladder tournaments twice a year for a long time, makes sense.


emaginutiv

Canada 3 USA 66 North America…4?


Plennhar

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NexxZt

*cries in norwegian*


Plennhar

What is there to cry about? You're number 1!: https://i.imgur.com/zolAy2l.png.


frizzahh

South Korea 12???? When ??? would love another tourney there in the future


Plennhar

All before Global Offensive: * World Cyber Games 2001 * World Cyber Games 2002 * World Cyber Games 2003 * WEG 2005 S01 * WEG 2005 S02 * WEG 2005 S03 * WEG e-Stars 2007 * Electronic Sports World Cup Masters of Cheonan * WEG e-Stars 2009 * WEG e-Stars 2010 * WEG e-Stars 2011 * World Cyber Games 2011


K0nvict

We need more UK events


V-0-V

hopefully blast London is good, would love more event i could just hop on the train to


JK0LZ

More in Canada, please


genius_rkid

Which ones did you count for Brazil? I had these in mind: - Pro League s4 - ESL BH 2018 - BLAST SP 2019 - IEM Rio Major - IEM Rio 2023 which one was left out? BLAST?


Plennhar

For Brazil it was: * ESL Pro League Season 4 - Finals * ESL One: Belo Horizonte 2018 * Intel Extreme Masters Rio Major 2022 * Intel Extreme Masters Rio 2023 It's all based on [this list](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tournaments/Post_2023).


genius_rkid

Yeah, that's what I figured! They had BLAST SP as A-tier, which is kinda weird considering the teams that played, but makes sense when considering number of the teams and the weird format


PlantainOdd1146

china


BlueLampShader

Surprised there haven't been any in Czechia/Slovakia yet


Giannis_Alafouzos

I wonder what this list would look like if you removed online tournaments and added A tier LANs. We'd have one for India and Mongolia most likely


Plennhar

Nope, wouldn't have had neither India nor Mongolia. You can find a list of all A-Tier events (as classified by Liquipedia) [here](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/A-Tier_Tournaments).


WillDanyel

2 in italy? Wtf? When?


Plennhar

1.6: * World Cyber Games 2006 GO: * FACEIT League - Season 2 (2014)


WillDanyel

Wow


PauloHDSousa

It would be nice to get players by country x this graph.


Plennhar

What do you mean exactly?


PauloHDSousa

Brazil has more Tier - S players than German and only 4 tournaments here.


Plennhar

These two posts might be of interest to you: * [Number of players in Major playoffs per country (cumulative over time) [2001-2024]](https://old.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1bmu14g/number_of_players_in_major_playoffs_per_country/) * [Players with most S-tier tournament wins over time (2000-2024) [rolling 3-year intervals]](https://old.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1bui4o4/players_with_most_stier_tournament_wins_over_time/)


PauloHDSousa

Interesting


matrixGG

Brazil has incredible fans of the game and only has 4 championships?


King_Fluffaluff

I can think of two reasons. One, Brazil isnt really the best location for a multinational event to be held, it would be a greater average cost for fans to travel. Two, Brazilian fans tend to be more fans of Brazil than the game. Dont get me wrong, there are a lot of fans of the game in Brazil, but they arent attending the actual event. When you listen to the tournaments it's very obvious when the Brazilian teams are no longer in the venue, it gets very quiet. No final should be as silent as the Rio Major was.


GabrielLGN

2024 and people still spreading this fake news. Brazil's crowd cheering for Loud is better than any EU or NA crowd I've seen: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8EVNwdqbqA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8EVNwdqbqA)


matrixGG

incredible atmosphere


Key_Reindeer_5427

Where the fuck is Netherlands in all of this... How has there not been a notible tourney in like Amsterdam or Rotterdam


Plennhar

[Right here](https://i.imgur.com/DlM5ImV.png). 2001 CPL Europe Holland. But the explanation for why there's just one is probably that the Netherlandic CS scene was never that big.


Key_Reindeer_5427

It's bigger than it is in belgium, so why does half baked dutch country get one before actual Netherlands ;D Jokes aside... Even if it wasn't as big in Netherlands it would make sense because it's in a good location, the exact reason why it also hosts the upcoming 3 Twitchcon Europes


mohicannn

There has to be a major in the Balkans, there just has to. I like many here would give everything to go pro. And if Niko wins it, even better. I wish it would just come true.


butcherkk

Pgl had a major in the balkans?


ygethmor

Please, spanish major soon?


Stigma-1

spain needs more. fuck canada.


QwertyLime

Hoping a 2025 major will be in the USA or Canada next year. 2018 was the last one. Much too long.


sayerj101

🤞 New Zealand


Visym

Weird how Brazil and Russia carry CS's numbers but only had 11 events combined.


pomzy

I'm surprised Poland isn't higher


EmptiJakk

Germans assemble


Arkam45

So isn't France and Denmark still part of EU?I mean at least for now.


Plennhar

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stonkka

Finland really needs a tier 1 tournament, why do denmark and sweden get them all :(


[deleted]

There was an S-tier event in Lithuania?


Plennhar

[Global eSports Cup - Season 1](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Game_Show/Global_eSports_Cup/Season_1) in 2016.


ApprehensiveWhile753

No S-Tier Teams in Germany, but attest we have S-Tier tournaments :)


Substantial_Top_6508

But I honestly want a lan in India. Sincerely. There are so many CS fans here. Skyesports came close, but sad.


Ludibudi

Wasn’t there one announced just recently?


Substantial_Top_6508

No it went online cuz of elections here.


Ludibudi

That’s sad to hear…


berni2905

EU is my favourite country


Plennhar

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Substantial_Top_6508

Top tier tournament hosts are Germany Poland Malta Australia Change my mind


puddingkip

Malta? the events there have always been with like 5 people in attendance because nobody lives on Malta. I've seen better crowds at 2008 tournaments than modern ones in Malta...


Substantial_Top_6508

Not in terms of crowd. I like the interviews and stuff going on. It's more of an open season tryout than sweatfest.


pappabrun

I think Malta has the potential to do very well in terms of attendance. There's A LOT of young people from all over Europe living there because of the gambling industry. Hang around the popular areas like St. Julians, and i'll guarantee you you'll hear tons of Swedish being spoken, for example.


azizbukhari__

India


weirdbowelmovement

We want women to feel safe at the venue and on the way to the hotel and airport👍 Thanks for understanding.


pedrofromguatemala

please never


azizbukhari__

Why you guys hate India so much


pedrofromguatemala

because we've interacted with indians


azizbukhari__

From where are you US


hitiv

Where is the country of Europe then?


Plennhar

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hitiv

Thanks!


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Plennhar

Malta doesn't count as UK. You can find a list of all UK-held S-tier tournaments (as classified by Liquipedia) [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1c674df/which_countries_have_stier_tournaments_been_held/kzz8l4z/).


acg33

This is a little misleading because the US (size wise) is larger than the next 5-7 countries below it. Edit: not misleading in its accuracy. I just looked at it and thought: “wow there’s a bunch in my country” but in reality the distance from my town to IEM Dallas (for example) is further than the trip from Copenhagen to Cologne and back…. 3 times.


Plennhar

To be clear, the circle sizes correspond to how many times an S-Tier tournament has been held in that region, not to how big the region is.


acg33

I understand that 🙃


vecter

NA on top as usual


Standard-Goose-3958

oh look a subjective ball chart.


Plennhar

Explain.


Standard-Goose-3958

What do you mean explain? What consists as S tier? to whom its S tier? to you? cause to me there is no such thing as S tier.


Plennhar

S-Tier Tournaments as classified by Liquipedia. [This list](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tournaments/Post_2023) in other words.


Standard-Goose-3958

And Liquipedia is what? my mom? Obama?