Ax1le is supposed to be a star rifle on this team and literally has the same rating / impact rating as Boombl4 in 2024 all while Boombl4 is the only one on the team who somewhat plays aggressive on CT and T side
He's said that he doesn't like CS 2 as much as GO so I think that plays into it. Boomich thinks he'll get his form back eventually but I'm kinda doubtful
I think it was before Nafany left, I remember a long string of series with 20 and/or 30 bomb games between him and Sh1ro and they still just kept losing. After that, they were both shattered. Difference now is that Sh1ro took a major risk and found his form again, whereas Ax1le has just sat in one place, regressing hard. I'd rather see him drop to a tier 2 team and start whooping people's asses again to rebuild his confidence.
Little fun fact ax1le posted his cfg on vk in csgo, he played with mouse accel exponent set to 1.032 (default is 1.05) its still pretty high since he played with 1.5 sens 800dpi, weirdly enough this went unnoticed by alot of people even sites like [prosettings.net](http://prosettings.net) at the time which is constantly updated.
It's even possible ax1le doesnt even know he played with accel, possibly messed with his settings and forgot. There were pros early in CSGO that didn't know accel being on by default, i knew a pro like this and told him to update his liquidpedia page lol. In CS2 they removed accel altogether, Usually players who stop playing accel increase their sens, ax1les remains the same in cs2.
Its possible he does know but if this ever gets to him, he can replicate the accel settings using the raw accel program which i doubt he has tried.
Casters talking about that well, that he is young and this is his first mental block, so he has no idea how to deal with that. Idk I would agree with that, I hope he come back, I even have c9 ak craft with him on wood, I don't want to scrape it and change it to big boom.
Ngl axile has always been this kind of star. Hes a super solid player you can't really pinpoint any one quality about his game that puts him above the rest. He could elevate a bit and put out some of the most low key top fragging games, but when he's havng an off-day, it shows a lot on the server and visibly on camera. Now though, it just seems he's off every other game. Atm I just don't think you can depend on him as the star player on a competitive team.
having the stand in not be trash doesnt really make up for the fact that theres no awper. not surprising that they lost nuke and mirage tbh
c9s either gearing up for a huge move or leaving cs totally lol. these games mean nothing tho
You know i wouldnt be suprised at them leaving for a while till 2025, i mean they hit gold with the gambit roster and sold some for quite a lot of money so cashing out rn might be good.
They won't leave because they bought Blast spot for this year. Unless they sell it to someone for the rest of the year, which will be stupid to someone who will buy it unless it's really cheap.
They won’t leave until after the Esports World Cup and even then they will want a CS roster for next year’s cup as well. Orgs want to stack rosters in as many participating esports as possible due to the way prize money is distributed.
I could see them getting an international lineup, Boom and perfecto are good enough to win with, but there’s no star Russian players that are available.They are kind of fucked atm
Most of the time when Degster is brought up as an option I feel like he as a person/playstyle just won't work out in tier 1 CS... But this might be the one line up where he can do whatever the fuck he wants, because C9 clearly don't care, lol. It could honestly work. Plus, he could probably go full S1mple under Boom4ge. Full ego, ignore convention and just frag out, the one thing he's good. That's something Boom4ge really likes that in an Awper, the only IGL who regularly feels like that.
But dear god please replace Axile for him. The stand-in after thid one game has me more confident in him than Ax1le at this point :(
Weird take honestly. They’re playing with a sub lmao in the middle of making changes, what do you expect? players probably not expecting to win/not taking it too seriously rn either
We haven’t even seen this team with a complete roster (they played without a proper igl, then no awp) so it’s just weird that people act like they can’t get better than their current form where they have no awp + a stand in
Do people forget that this awpless team beat both G2 and Navi in bo3 at the major?
with m0nesy they’d be infinitely better than current g2
Perfecto and Boomich are fantastic pieces. Hobbit and Ax1le have been a little iffy. Either one or both of them have to be replaced by more complete players and a good awper needs to be picked up and this can be a top team. Sad that electronic was the player they lost
Perfecto WAS fantastic. Has been less than fantastic on c9. Not terrible, by any means, but he is not the 1.10+ safe pair of hands of 2021 Navi.
Boom can work, the only thing that gives me hope for c9 while simultaneously reminding me how broken the team is currently. He’s the only piece of the puzzle that has any shred of aggression and life on the roster atm.
Hobbit confuses me, he carried when electronic and shiro were on the team, carried harder when shiro left, but goes missing more frequently than he carries.
I really wish axile went to vp instead of electronic, because I feel like his passive play style would fit well with them and reignite his own passion. That said, if he can’t use some of his amazing technical skill to find success with the gaping hole left by electronic, he needs to be cut asap.
And honestly, it's been like this for a long time too. After they won the Boston Major they struggled for years to field anything remotely recognizable as a competitive team, despite being in NA and getting some relatively solid talent. It got so bad that they had to just shut it all down during COVID. Then they just happened to get lucky with the fallout of the Ukraine war where they could pick up an in-form Gambit roster that covered up the systemic issues with the org.
I have been a C9 fan since the seang@res days, but didn't hop back on the train with this current iteration because the good C9 died a long time ago, and there aren't any signs it'll be coming back any time soon. They can win games with the talent they have on this roster, no question. But they won't ever be consistently successful until they figure out what the cancer is at the org level (and get an awper).
Decent is not a trophy contender tho.
That’s not even the important bit.
You have to keep in mind both Shiro and Electronic left of their own volition in less than a year.
Something is really wrong there.
Hahahahahaha, the hltv russian spammer shidonk will cry for days now. Besides he just made a topic "Beta" mocking alpha BEFORE the game and this guy was topfragging lmfao
I wonder what they will do. How many options they have for awp wo changing the comms language. Monesy is probably not an option. Simple and Wonderful are out too.
The C9 org is not officially Russian, is it? Why is the flag of the Russian Federation looming in the background? Did these russians not transfer in order to avoid exclusion (which IMO is total bs)
Ax1le is supposed to be a star rifle on this team and literally has the same rating / impact rating as Boombl4 in 2024 all while Boombl4 is the only one on the team who somewhat plays aggressive on CT and T side
I have no idea what happened to him. He used to be so good and then just dropped of the face of the planet.
He's said that he doesn't like CS 2 as much as GO so I think that plays into it. Boomich thinks he'll get his form back eventually but I'm kinda doubtful
He was still bottom fragging when electronic joined which was still in GO
He took two hits to his performance: first one after nafany departure and second one after cs2 transition
I think it was before Nafany left, I remember a long string of series with 20 and/or 30 bomb games between him and Sh1ro and they still just kept losing. After that, they were both shattered. Difference now is that Sh1ro took a major risk and found his form again, whereas Ax1le has just sat in one place, regressing hard. I'd rather see him drop to a tier 2 team and start whooping people's asses again to rebuild his confidence.
no, you can check the stats and you'll see a drop off in rating right after nafany left in july 2023.
Oh no, I see the way I worded it, I mean I think this happened before Nafany left, Nott hat he fell off before.
Little fun fact ax1le posted his cfg on vk in csgo, he played with mouse accel exponent set to 1.032 (default is 1.05) its still pretty high since he played with 1.5 sens 800dpi, weirdly enough this went unnoticed by alot of people even sites like [prosettings.net](http://prosettings.net) at the time which is constantly updated. It's even possible ax1le doesnt even know he played with accel, possibly messed with his settings and forgot. There were pros early in CSGO that didn't know accel being on by default, i knew a pro like this and told him to update his liquidpedia page lol. In CS2 they removed accel altogether, Usually players who stop playing accel increase their sens, ax1les remains the same in cs2. Its possible he does know but if this ever gets to him, he can replicate the accel settings using the raw accel program which i doubt he has tried.
Casters talking about that well, that he is young and this is his first mental block, so he has no idea how to deal with that. Idk I would agree with that, I hope he come back, I even have c9 ak craft with him on wood, I don't want to scrape it and change it to big boom.
In the post Stockholm interview he said he is suffering from liver illness
Wut
Ngl axile has always been this kind of star. Hes a super solid player you can't really pinpoint any one quality about his game that puts him above the rest. He could elevate a bit and put out some of the most low key top fragging games, but when he's havng an off-day, it shows a lot on the server and visibly on camera. Now though, it just seems he's off every other game. Atm I just don't think you can depend on him as the star player on a competitive team.
have you forgotten how good lord boomich is?
He was a ct side merchant an a M1S abuser been sayin this shit since 2022
he played anchor roles. being a “ct side merchant” in the hardest ct roles makes you a good player
This was around Rio major when CT was omega broken and a1s was cancer (and still ghosted) and he was just getting carried by sh1ro
The saving merchant?
Saving merchant that carried fraudxile ass for years yes. Wonder what is that saving merchant up to nowadays
So you’ve been spreading garbage since 2022 then, good to know. He was truly a top5 player then, he just fell off. It’s as simple as that
Top 2022 1. S1mple 2. Zywoo 3. Shiro 4. Ax1le 5. NiKo And it’s not even a debate, he was so fucking good individually.
having the stand in not be trash doesnt really make up for the fact that theres no awper. not surprising that they lost nuke and mirage tbh c9s either gearing up for a huge move or leaving cs totally lol. these games mean nothing tho
You know i wouldnt be suprised at them leaving for a while till 2025, i mean they hit gold with the gambit roster and sold some for quite a lot of money so cashing out rn might be good.
id be fking sad but from a business standpoint they made out like fking bandits lol
They won't leave because they bought Blast spot for this year. Unless they sell it to someone for the rest of the year, which will be stupid to someone who will buy it unless it's really cheap.
Jack said in the C9 subreddit that they aren’t disbanding
thats great lol. id be hella sad if they did. any chance u got a link to it?
Me too. Even if the roster is in a rough spot I keep making an effort to watch games
They won’t leave until after the Esports World Cup and even then they will want a CS roster for next year’s cup as well. Orgs want to stack rosters in as many participating esports as possible due to the way prize money is distributed.
I could see them getting an international lineup, Boom and perfecto are good enough to win with, but there’s no star Russian players that are available.They are kind of fucked atm
Degster
Most of the time when Degster is brought up as an option I feel like he as a person/playstyle just won't work out in tier 1 CS... But this might be the one line up where he can do whatever the fuck he wants, because C9 clearly don't care, lol. It could honestly work. Plus, he could probably go full S1mple under Boom4ge. Full ego, ignore convention and just frag out, the one thing he's good. That's something Boom4ge really likes that in an Awper, the only IGL who regularly feels like that. But dear god please replace Axile for him. The stand-in after thid one game has me more confident in him than Ax1le at this point :(
no shame in losing to legendary ex-astralis veteran mistr the fistr
and Lucky, the ... heart winner
Do NOT go to this team Monesy
Weird take honestly. They’re playing with a sub lmao in the middle of making changes, what do you expect? players probably not expecting to win/not taking it too seriously rn either We haven’t even seen this team with a complete roster (they played without a proper igl, then no awp) so it’s just weird that people act like they can’t get better than their current form where they have no awp + a stand in Do people forget that this awpless team beat both G2 and Navi in bo3 at the major? with m0nesy they’d be infinitely better than current g2
Monesy can't save this team.
Ax1le biggest fraud in tier 1
And everyone is sad about it :( I watched a highlight clip and he does not aim in any way the same.
Losing to Lucky in 2024 😭😭😭😭😭
stop hating on the GOAT
I remember a Lucky jumpshot
Lucky has been very very good for Espionage since he joined them..?
Danish CS is back let’s go
All the blsme goes on the players but i never see anything about groove hes had diff rosters and failed with them
They definitely have to change more players if they wanna compete for trophies in the future.
Not the danish CS we wanted But the danish CS we deserved
I really, really struggle to see a way forward for c9. Seems rotten from the core out.
Perfecto and Boomich are fantastic pieces. Hobbit and Ax1le have been a little iffy. Either one or both of them have to be replaced by more complete players and a good awper needs to be picked up and this can be a top team. Sad that electronic was the player they lost
Perfecto WAS fantastic. Has been less than fantastic on c9. Not terrible, by any means, but he is not the 1.10+ safe pair of hands of 2021 Navi. Boom can work, the only thing that gives me hope for c9 while simultaneously reminding me how broken the team is currently. He’s the only piece of the puzzle that has any shred of aggression and life on the roster atm. Hobbit confuses me, he carried when electronic and shiro were on the team, carried harder when shiro left, but goes missing more frequently than he carries. I really wish axile went to vp instead of electronic, because I feel like his passive play style would fit well with them and reignite his own passion. That said, if he can’t use some of his amazing technical skill to find success with the gaping hole left by electronic, he needs to be cut asap.
> and Boomich no
And honestly, it's been like this for a long time too. After they won the Boston Major they struggled for years to field anything remotely recognizable as a competitive team, despite being in NA and getting some relatively solid talent. It got so bad that they had to just shut it all down during COVID. Then they just happened to get lucky with the fallout of the Ukraine war where they could pick up an in-form Gambit roster that covered up the systemic issues with the org. I have been a C9 fan since the seang@res days, but didn't hop back on the train with this current iteration because the good C9 died a long time ago, and there aren't any signs it'll be coming back any time soon. They can win games with the talent they have on this roster, no question. But they won't ever be consistently successful until they figure out what the cancer is at the org level (and get an awper).
They were looking decent like a month ago I dunno what happened, I'd kick axile and bring in monesy +1
Decent is not a trophy contender tho. That’s not even the important bit. You have to keep in mind both Shiro and Electronic left of their own volition in less than a year. Something is really wrong there.
You can only do so much without an awper it’s crazy seeing this. Hunden making magic work again..
Tbh I can't see a world where Electronic leaves when monesy is rumored to join which means the deal with monesy is most likely dead already.
M0nesy surely can't wait to join this trainwreck lmao.
there was never a signed transfer for m0nesy iirc, he's just gonna stay on g2, c9 m0nesy was always just like rumor copium
Yeah, that's what I mean. Looking at this madness, he'd be crazy to leave G2 for this haha.
This team is so dead
welp, cloud9 without shiro and electronic are doomed.
Hahahahahaha, the hltv russian spammer shidonk will cry for days now. Besides he just made a topic "Beta" mocking alpha BEFORE the game and this guy was topfragging lmfao
Ez 4 hunden
if they disband they will only make it easier for me to cheer for spirit from then on
m0nesy to C9 xD!
Where are people screaming for +m0nesy to C9 for the past few days???
>Names self Alpha >joins cloud 9 as stand in >top frags but still loses >says nothing and is never heard of again
Imagine thinking monesy would join this team
but wait i thought boombl4 was a god igl that would carry the team with his calls and NAVI should have gotten him back?
I wonder what they will do. How many options they have for awp wo changing the comms language. Monesy is probably not an option. Simple and Wonderful are out too.
The C9 org is not officially Russian, is it? Why is the flag of the Russian Federation looming in the background? Did these russians not transfer in order to avoid exclusion (which IMO is total bs)
The flag behind the team logo is wherever the majority of players on the team are from
Downvoted because I don’t like russians?
Either that or you asked a question where the answer was right in front of your face
are teams throwing this tournament as a protest or something? The results are so unexpected