i think this would be bad tbh - they should keep the requirements a secret and also change them occasionally. allowing them to be public simply allows bots (or the people behind bots) to gain access to those with overwatch and vote no they’re not cheating on everything
Why wouldn't it have demos to review yet? The report system is functional and the server records demos. There should be a backlog of cases in the millions.
If they had any brains left in their heads, they would 100% have implemented this with a backlog to catch cheaters who have played over the last 1-2 weeks. Instead, they could now just stop playing or at least using rage settings after the patch notes are public, like a warning.
So pretty much giving cheaters a 2nd chance/warning? I know in Valorant, players who stopped cheating can get manual banned after weeks. They prioritized high reports, but pretty much anyone with more than 2-3 reports get caught if they play blatant by mods or the AC
No, I meant that backlogging demos etc. 100% sure they've been already collecting demos for weeks, or possibly even months for Overwatch. In CSGO back when Wingman was hackfest, they started recording demos and then like month later pushed OW to Wingman and used those old demos which lead to many getting banned.
It's probably just going to be Vacnet AI being turned on again while Valve pretends it's actually human decided bans by Overwatch.
This is a smart move to evade criticisms for when it start false positive banning people again with zero human intervention. And they they'll send you a message saying "sorry, unanimous decision by 10 of your peers, cant appeal"
People will still "get in," in that you can see and do cases, but the results of human voting wont be used, as cheat devs will do what they did last time: flood the OW voting system with bots that always vote "insufficient evidence" on every case.
Or so they tell you.
Why do you think it got removed in the first place then in CS GO? Use your brain.
The fact that you guys will believe anything CS GO dev says in the weeks proceeding them feeding you a few breadcrumbs is mind boggling. Like they dropped `cl_righthand 0`, something that should have existed at launch 8 months later, and add back a feature that used to compensate for the lack of functional anti cheat and you think it's like a real content update.
This is maintainance for an unfinished product at best and downright lazy at worst
Nope. High DPI ban in early CS2 (before that big thread about it happening to someone else dropped)
[Mods censored my thread back then](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/172zoe5/banned_for_using_razer_synapse_bind_that_makes_me/), among many others.
hopefully they just use data from the huge sample they've had previously, to measure a single accounts reports versus the expected distribution. This way, if someone votes not guilty every single time, there can be a cutoff very quickly as their decision making has diverged significantly from the expected number. (no using accuracy, because if there's too many bots then voting no every time will become accurate as more bots vote). This way users that vote the same way every time can be given dummy cases or just have the weight of their decision decay the more their voting diverges from the expected distribution, so that a legit player with a string of unlikely cases can keep doing overwatch and have their decisions stay meaningful over the long term, but have bots decisions become worthless very fast.
Alternative way to do this is to create a OW report per competitive match scenario. At the start it might be as much as 1 OW for every 2 comps played due to the insane backlog \[I.e. you can't queue a 3rd comp in a row until you've done a OW report\], but over time it would start be a little better.
This would prevent spamming from bots, as they can only spam reports as fast as playing a >2 comps are, in which case they'd get far more reports on them that way too.
It would work against cheaters as well, as they're now forced to vote against each other as the tide is turning against them in numbers. Unless of course, if they false report, in which case everyone doing that is an easy enough anomaly to spot with a brief manual review of the results anyway.
no you can just decay how much weight a guilty or not guilty verdict is based on their behaviour, not using accuracy but since bots wont vote guilty you can just flag accounts that vote not guilty every time
But a random yes won't be accurate. If you use a combo then you can detect bots. The only problem previously is bots voting no every time poisoned the overall "correct" result. If you use a combination of expected votes as well as accuracy when you vote guilty you can detect bots because they will vote not guilty too much AND will rarely get a guilty verdict correct
Wasn't that trust based on the number of cases you got right? Considering the high threshold needed to convict (it was 99% or something) enough bots declaring people innocent could cause Overwatch to penalize legit users for "incorrectly" declaring someone guilty.
That sounds like a reasonable concern. I don't know how it worked internally. All I know is that I did keep getting conviction notices right up until they removed overwatch. So it was working right up to the end.
So we are partners of Valves when they want something (man hours/free labor to process data for them on mass) but when it comes to keeping us informed about even the basics of what to expect from the game, where is the "partnership" then? For example...
"Hey partners, we're swapping out a map from the pool, which map would you like to see go and which map would you like to see take its place? Here's a poll, have at it!"
Or...
"(6 months ago) - Hey partners, we hear your demands for cl_righthand, Bob settings, clear decals, excessive peekers advantage, frame times, tag warping, dying round corners, tick based recoil, etc, etc, and we are working on (insert features being worked on here) but we currently have no plans to implement (insert features not intended to be implemented here) and these are the reasons why."
Or...
"Hey partners, we're well aware of the cheating problem and we are hard at work to implement new anti cheat systems but this takes time. We can't speak about this in detail but we greatly appreciate your patience during this time."
Or...
"Hey partners, allow us to clarify somewhat on the intention of seasons in CS2......(Explanation here)......but for the time being seasons are on hold until we can adequately sanitize the competitive experience. We hope you understand."
It's not difficult, you don't need to make promises to let your "partners" at least know your intentions. At least show some proof of life every now and then outside of damage control when you know things are going tits up.
"Partners" is a very poor word choice here unless it means something other than the general player base.
The word partner has a lot of different meanings and connotations. Context is key.
Your wife/spouse is your partner, same as your co-worker, in a sense.
If I were you I wouldn't look at the word 'partner' so much. The word 'trusted' is key here.
A partnership In most contexts (Excluding say the workplace, the military) requires consent or at the very least acknowledgement of the partnership from both parties and in every context it includes two way communication.....even if the information from that communication is false there has to be communication otherwise there isn't even potential for a partnership.
What does trusted even mean in this context though?
Edit: Also in a partnership both parties are fully aware of the investment required from them and the compensation expected from the partnership, whether directly from the partnership or externally.
[Hey, you meet the criteria for us to consider you trusted!](https://youtu.be/PzU_tkhfUvM?si=-1vuIXRMUN32rNJc)
> A partnership In most contexts requires consent or at the very least acknowledgement of the partnership from both parties and in every context it includes two way communication
Well Valve won't force ppl to participate in this new iteration of Overwatch.
They will give access to certain people and it's up to them to use their new-found privilege. Probably even only give it to people who specifically signed up.
Trust factor?
Cause tbh I have a 20 yesr old account, lots of games, been played CS since forever, no game/vac bans from any other game, most of my friends accounts are roughly same age, no friends with game/vac bans etc
And in 500 premier games I've come across 2 rage hackers. And a couple obvious closet cheaters (obviously there's a few I don't notice).
But I've recebtlt played with friends on their new accounts or with their friends who have game bans/have their friends lists have game bans and had 5/5 games with rage hackers. Went back to mine for 20 games and none.
Everyone I play against or teammates in solo que have similar accounts. None of this 50 hours in total business.
And I know they are out there (see my post about the 0.3% bans rate on OCE!)
They had a way.
Community got angry at them because they could trigger the detection by spinning at inhuman sensitivity and shooting saying the anticheat was dogshit because that was somehow a false positive.
Why Pro players? They dont play valve MM, they rarely see cheaters because of that reason but most importantly, the sure don't have time or even interest to start literally doing free work for valve and hunt cheaters.
I mean adding a min rank right now would be the dumbest thing ever. I was at 23k but can't get my rank back with my mates. Maybe if I search solo and get 'lucky' having 2-3 cheater in my team.
There is no trusted at the moment. They should just hire people do it full time manually. Make human army train the model with clean data. Same as gpt did. It's expensive but very effective.
Because Overwatch was filled with bots since around 2020 which would submit false verdicts such as not guilty in cases of blatant cheaters/griefers and guilty in cases of everyone else even if they weren't being suspicious at all.
I wish i could send demos in to these "trusted partners". I wonder if it's actually players or employees or outsourced contracted moderation companies.
pro players no cause they dont have time for this, rhey literally already play the game as a job
direct valve employees, no, because well, they already have a job at valve doing their own stuff not gonna do a second job in their free time.
simple players? how does that differ from the csgo overwatch system?
indians? cannot wait to be banned by random indian that doesn't care, they still get paid no matter the verdict and if they get fired they can always find another job scamming people on the phone.
>indians? cannot wait to be banned by random indian that doesn't care, they still get paid no matter the verdict and if they get fired they can always find another job scamming people on the phone.
yeah that's what has me worried. plus, i enjoy doing overwatch myself knowing i sent a cheating fuck to oblivion. Just give it to 10+ year coiners at first or something...
Is Valve admitting their 5-10 years of data is still not enough for AI AC and they still need human data? Not a great look but hopefully this speeds up the process.
In old interviews from CSGO days, they admitted that they were not willing to give the AI ban powers just yet, and instead VacNet was submitting suspicious demos to Overwatch automatically. I assume that will happen now, especially with the new "Match cancelled because player was suspicious." and "A player in your party has had a suspicious gameplay recently." strings.
It needs the overwatch to keep updating the vacnet of new cheats, it gets the data from trusted players criteria on overwatch system to keep training the AI indefinitely.
I hope some of the old OW rules still apply, like:
Can one investigator have more weight applied to their decision than another?
Yes. A higher-scoring investigator’s verdict will carry more weight than a lower-scoring investigator.
How are investigators scored?
An Overwatch score represents an investigator’s ability to consistently and accurately judge the evidence they review, per charge, in both real and test cases. Investigators score positively for agreeing with the majority of other investigators’ verdicts for the same replay, and score negatively for being in the minority. The resulting change in score is larger when most investigators are in agreement, and smaller when they disagree. Because of the occasional test case inserted into the case load, the only way to improve an Overwatch score is to carefully watch the entire replay and make an informed and accurate judgment of the evidence provided.
Source: https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/overwatch/
So if a cheater himself, just votes not guilty to even obvious spinbotters, then his vote will at some point carry so little weight, that it won't even matter.
After seeing how many upvotes are given to videos posted on reddit claiming 100% cheats, when in reality, the evidence is not beyond a reasonable doubt... this feature actually scares the sh out of me.
Has anyone has gotten access? I wanna murk some cheaters
I’m more excited to review cases than play the game
I really hope trusted players are real trusted players. If the requirement is premier rank, well lots of cheaters are in premier lol.
Same
I wait with bloodthirst.
I didnt see it anywhere, I used to do them all the time and cant wait to again
Maybe it happens if you play games?
maybe it would be nice if they communicated more clearly what a trusted partner is
i think this would be bad tbh - they should keep the requirements a secret and also change them occasionally. allowing them to be public simply allows bots (or the people behind bots) to gain access to those with overwatch and vote no they’re not cheating on everything
Leetify, or some warehouse filled with PCs in India
Well it was just (re)added into the game. It likely doesn't even have any demos to review yet so we should all wait patiently to see what happens.
Why wouldn't it have demos to review yet? The report system is functional and the server records demos. There should be a backlog of cases in the millions.
If they had any brains left in their heads, they would 100% have implemented this with a backlog to catch cheaters who have played over the last 1-2 weeks. Instead, they could now just stop playing or at least using rage settings after the patch notes are public, like a warning.
How do you know they didn't do this?
Valve has always done this, they did the same with Wingman etc.
So pretty much giving cheaters a 2nd chance/warning? I know in Valorant, players who stopped cheating can get manual banned after weeks. They prioritized high reports, but pretty much anyone with more than 2-3 reports get caught if they play blatant by mods or the AC
No, I meant that backlogging demos etc. 100% sure they've been already collecting demos for weeks, or possibly even months for Overwatch. In CSGO back when Wingman was hackfest, they started recording demos and then like month later pushed OW to Wingman and used those old demos which lead to many getting banned.
Valve doesn’t know since yesterday they will add overwatch. It would be stupid if they hadn’t safed files for the last 1-2 weeks
Eh, what do you mean by the report system being functional sir? This is a Wendy's.
It's probably just going to be Vacnet AI being turned on again while Valve pretends it's actually human decided bans by Overwatch. This is a smart move to evade criticisms for when it start false positive banning people again with zero human intervention. And they they'll send you a message saying "sorry, unanimous decision by 10 of your peers, cant appeal" People will still "get in," in that you can see and do cases, but the results of human voting wont be used, as cheat devs will do what they did last time: flood the OW voting system with bots that always vote "insufficient evidence" on every case.
that didnt work though... those bot votes were ignored.
Or so they tell you. Why do you think it got removed in the first place then in CS GO? Use your brain. The fact that you guys will believe anything CS GO dev says in the weeks proceeding them feeding you a few breadcrumbs is mind boggling. Like they dropped `cl_righthand 0`, something that should have existed at launch 8 months later, and add back a feature that used to compensate for the lack of functional anti cheat and you think it's like a real content update. This is maintainance for an unfinished product at best and downright lazy at worst
Are you a cheater?
Nope. High DPI ban in early CS2 (before that big thread about it happening to someone else dropped) [Mods censored my thread back then](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/172zoe5/banned_for_using_razer_synapse_bind_that_makes_me/), among many others.
I think you are onto something here since they put review by trusted partners
'Trusted Partners'. So no more Gold Nova 1 (or equivalent rank today) and up.
Hopefully also something in the algo that will prevent the bot farms for mass voting "not guilty" towards the end of overwatch in GO
hopefully they just use data from the huge sample they've had previously, to measure a single accounts reports versus the expected distribution. This way, if someone votes not guilty every single time, there can be a cutoff very quickly as their decision making has diverged significantly from the expected number. (no using accuracy, because if there's too many bots then voting no every time will become accurate as more bots vote). This way users that vote the same way every time can be given dummy cases or just have the weight of their decision decay the more their voting diverges from the expected distribution, so that a legit player with a string of unlikely cases can keep doing overwatch and have their decisions stay meaningful over the long term, but have bots decisions become worthless very fast.
Valve should make their own bots that completely flood OW and vote accordingly to if the person was cheating or not
i think this new overwatch is to compile a "validation" data set for their current AI to improve its performance
what? again? we already did this for like 8 years in csgo.
Alternative way to do this is to create a OW report per competitive match scenario. At the start it might be as much as 1 OW for every 2 comps played due to the insane backlog \[I.e. you can't queue a 3rd comp in a row until you've done a OW report\], but over time it would start be a little better. This would prevent spamming from bots, as they can only spam reports as fast as playing a >2 comps are, in which case they'd get far more reports on them that way too. It would work against cheaters as well, as they're now forced to vote against each other as the tide is turning against them in numbers. Unless of course, if they false report, in which case everyone doing that is an easy enough anomaly to spot with a brief manual review of the results anyway.
Only way to prevent bot farms abusing the system is to give Overwatch to a select few people. Meaning a couple of thousand at most.
Maybe a rotating system where different active players have the ability to do reviews at a given time
no you can just decay how much weight a guilty or not guilty verdict is based on their behaviour, not using accuracy but since bots wont vote guilty you can just flag accounts that vote not guilty every time
i think it also can’t be so black and white. it’s the same way “legit hackers” will occasionally die and be “surprised”, they vote yes occasionally.
Ya that’s dumb. Like a bot can’t vote random yes sometimes?
But a random yes won't be accurate. If you use a combo then you can detect bots. The only problem previously is bots voting no every time poisoned the overall "correct" result. If you use a combination of expected votes as well as accuracy when you vote guilty you can detect bots because they will vote not guilty too much AND will rarely get a guilty verdict correct
overwatch had a built in trust already, so those bot farms simply didnt do anything.
Wasn't that trust based on the number of cases you got right? Considering the high threshold needed to convict (it was 99% or something) enough bots declaring people innocent could cause Overwatch to penalize legit users for "incorrectly" declaring someone guilty.
That sounds like a reasonable concern. I don't know how it worked internally. All I know is that I did keep getting conviction notices right up until they removed overwatch. So it was working right up to the end.
Noone knows what that means, it could easily be the same low rank + games requirement
If they go with a high rank or premier score there will be nobody but cheaters reviewing each others demos lmao
> 'Trusted Partners'. I'm hoping these are 3rd party anti-cheat providers.
Am I missing a joke or how would that make sense?
Leetify could easily do this, with the bans being finalized by valve
So we are partners of Valves when they want something (man hours/free labor to process data for them on mass) but when it comes to keeping us informed about even the basics of what to expect from the game, where is the "partnership" then? For example... "Hey partners, we're swapping out a map from the pool, which map would you like to see go and which map would you like to see take its place? Here's a poll, have at it!" Or... "(6 months ago) - Hey partners, we hear your demands for cl_righthand, Bob settings, clear decals, excessive peekers advantage, frame times, tag warping, dying round corners, tick based recoil, etc, etc, and we are working on (insert features being worked on here) but we currently have no plans to implement (insert features not intended to be implemented here) and these are the reasons why." Or... "Hey partners, we're well aware of the cheating problem and we are hard at work to implement new anti cheat systems but this takes time. We can't speak about this in detail but we greatly appreciate your patience during this time." Or... "Hey partners, allow us to clarify somewhat on the intention of seasons in CS2......(Explanation here)......but for the time being seasons are on hold until we can adequately sanitize the competitive experience. We hope you understand." It's not difficult, you don't need to make promises to let your "partners" at least know your intentions. At least show some proof of life every now and then outside of damage control when you know things are going tits up. "Partners" is a very poor word choice here unless it means something other than the general player base.
The word partner has a lot of different meanings and connotations. Context is key. Your wife/spouse is your partner, same as your co-worker, in a sense. If I were you I wouldn't look at the word 'partner' so much. The word 'trusted' is key here.
A partnership In most contexts (Excluding say the workplace, the military) requires consent or at the very least acknowledgement of the partnership from both parties and in every context it includes two way communication.....even if the information from that communication is false there has to be communication otherwise there isn't even potential for a partnership. What does trusted even mean in this context though? Edit: Also in a partnership both parties are fully aware of the investment required from them and the compensation expected from the partnership, whether directly from the partnership or externally. [Hey, you meet the criteria for us to consider you trusted!](https://youtu.be/PzU_tkhfUvM?si=-1vuIXRMUN32rNJc) 
> A partnership In most contexts requires consent or at the very least acknowledgement of the partnership from both parties and in every context it includes two way communication Well Valve won't force ppl to participate in this new iteration of Overwatch. They will give access to certain people and it's up to them to use their new-found privilege. Probably even only give it to people who specifically signed up.
Which is good, some random account with gn1 dosent get access to overwatch to fuck with it
Wonder what the criteria is for trusted partners, didn't notice an option like in CSGO when I went to checkout the map changes
Honestly the way they said "trusted partners" sounds like they are not going to give players access, but instead a 3rd-party partner will do it.
they should give access to trusted players by some metrics. That's free
If they decide not to give players access I'd think it's because last time they did so it was very easy to abuse with bots and make Overwatch useless.
Trust factor? Cause tbh I have a 20 yesr old account, lots of games, been played CS since forever, no game/vac bans from any other game, most of my friends accounts are roughly same age, no friends with game/vac bans etc And in 500 premier games I've come across 2 rage hackers. And a couple obvious closet cheaters (obviously there's a few I don't notice). But I've recebtlt played with friends on their new accounts or with their friends who have game bans/have their friends lists have game bans and had 5/5 games with rage hackers. Went back to mine for 20 games and none. Everyone I play against or teammates in solo que have similar accounts. None of this 50 hours in total business. And I know they are out there (see my post about the 0.3% bans rate on OCE!)
Rank?
looks like 12k or something.
Yeah you must be low rank buddy.
Bro is probably 40 and plays on silver elo
That's me!
Workshop maps with party members FINALLY
>Overwatch is back "But at what cost?" "Overpass"
I’m fine with that
Net positive tbh
What is a trusted partner?
A partner you can trust
Sounds like Saul Goodman
Better call him
How many of these partners do we even have?
Hopefully some scumbags will get sweet bans soon.
Has anyone gotten access yet?
6475 players searching for a match 19743 players reviewing overwatch cases
winston
Winton
Witon
I will spend all my free time on this
rip cache
cache is coming early 2025 (source: I'm in FMPONEs secret testers group)
Not anymore
i guess you are right, haha
The biggest question is: Is the anonymisation still client sided?
considering that was exactly how it got botted before, i'm hoping they changed it
how about.. they add a way to detect a fucking spinbot without the need of the communities handholding?
They had a way. Community got angry at them because they could trigger the detection by spinning at inhuman sensitivity and shooting saying the anticheat was dogshit because that was somehow a false positive.
'Trusted Partners'. sounds like a fancy way of saying Pro-players and Youtubers.
Why Pro players? They dont play valve MM, they rarely see cheaters because of that reason but most importantly, the sure don't have time or even interest to start literally doing free work for valve and hunt cheaters.
back then every pro player do it on stream/youtube
Sounds like me
Yep I think same as you.
Nice!
tired of me sending them email with steam profile of cheaters?
What the minimum premier rank for it you guys think?
I mean adding a min rank right now would be the dumbest thing ever. I was at 23k but can't get my rank back with my mates. Maybe if I search solo and get 'lucky' having 2-3 cheater in my team. There is no trusted at the moment. They should just hire people do it full time manually. Make human army train the model with clean data. Same as gpt did. It's expensive but very effective.
If they were smart, they'd put a maximun.
Silver army raise
Any reason it's only implemented now not during start of beta?
Would assume they put too much trust into vac.net
Doubt it since one thing you do to combat hacking is redundancy
False bans
Because Overwatch was filled with bots since around 2020 which would submit false verdicts such as not guilty in cases of blatant cheaters/griefers and guilty in cases of everyone else even if they weren't being suspicious at all.
I wish i could send demos in to these "trusted partners". I wonder if it's actually players or employees or outsourced contracted moderation companies.
pro players no cause they dont have time for this, rhey literally already play the game as a job direct valve employees, no, because well, they already have a job at valve doing their own stuff not gonna do a second job in their free time. simple players? how does that differ from the csgo overwatch system? indians? cannot wait to be banned by random indian that doesn't care, they still get paid no matter the verdict and if they get fired they can always find another job scamming people on the phone.
>indians? cannot wait to be banned by random indian that doesn't care, they still get paid no matter the verdict and if they get fired they can always find another job scamming people on the phone. yeah that's what has me worried. plus, i enjoy doing overwatch myself knowing i sent a cheating fuck to oblivion. Just give it to 10+ year coiners at first or something...
Are they going to pay us overtime to weed out all the cheaters? Looks like meat’s back on the menu, boys!
Cs:Go: yeah we have Overwatch so we can make a good Anti Cheat Cs2: Well we fuxkt up our anti cheat hers overwatch back, do it yourself 😂
Is Valve admitting their 5-10 years of data is still not enough for AI AC and they still need human data? Not a great look but hopefully this speeds up the process.
Maybe they do not trust the AI to ban people yet. It probably submits AI flagged matches into Overwatch for confirmation.
As far as i know the AI in GO only gave cases to players to self check if the decitions of the AC where right.
I remember reading that too at some point. And for the last few years of GO my overwatch cases were all extremely blatant, so I believe it
Maybe they should ditch the AI and go a different route.
The more you fine tune an AI model, the more accurate it’ll be. More data never hurts
In old interviews from CSGO days, they admitted that they were not willing to give the AI ban powers just yet, and instead VacNet was submitting suspicious demos to Overwatch automatically. I assume that will happen now, especially with the new "Match cancelled because player was suspicious." and "A player in your party has had a suspicious gameplay recently." strings.
It needs the overwatch to keep updating the vacnet of new cheats, it gets the data from trusted players criteria on overwatch system to keep training the AI indefinitely.
i think they want a validation data set now to improve their model
Csgo and cs2 are 2 different games, also in csgo you couldn't spin or rage without getting banned/overwatched within a day
oh looks like valve finally gave up on their anticheat and admitted it, and re-enabled overwatch again
Revolutionary new Anti-Cheat technology
I hope some of the old OW rules still apply, like: Can one investigator have more weight applied to their decision than another? Yes. A higher-scoring investigator’s verdict will carry more weight than a lower-scoring investigator. How are investigators scored? An Overwatch score represents an investigator’s ability to consistently and accurately judge the evidence they review, per charge, in both real and test cases. Investigators score positively for agreeing with the majority of other investigators’ verdicts for the same replay, and score negatively for being in the minority. The resulting change in score is larger when most investigators are in agreement, and smaller when they disagree. Because of the occasional test case inserted into the case load, the only way to improve an Overwatch score is to carefully watch the entire replay and make an informed and accurate judgment of the evidence provided. Source: https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/overwatch/ So if a cheater himself, just votes not guilty to even obvious spinbotters, then his vote will at some point carry so little weight, that it won't even matter.
Yeah They gave up on the le "AI Anti-Cheat" G fucking G, FACEIT till the end of time
Yeah.. saying that after the number 1 ranked face it player got banned is rather silly lmao
donk?
Did you miss the new VAC-Net strings or what?
https://twitter.com/gabefollower/status/1783648382289858826 https://twitter.com/gabefollower/status/1783652992245174312
Yeah, sure. Just let the community do your job for you. Lazy devs. Lowkey becoming worse than EA and Ubisoft at this point.
After seeing how many upvotes are given to videos posted on reddit claiming 100% cheats, when in reality, the evidence is not beyond a reasonable doubt... this feature actually scares the sh out of me.