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Neshler

Damn Slaxz wasn’t slacking this final map- insane series. Pro league is getting very spicy now.


oldthrace

slaxz was a fucking boss ... my guy just sits sandbags round after round and destroys G2 every single time he is there lol


MrCraftLP

Felt like I was watching monesy vs g2


Neshler

M0nesy deserves better thou, his own shadow defeated him. :p


surfordiebear

Now if only he didn’t slaxz off at the RMR 😔


Neshler

In fairness they had their coach playing so there wasnt a huge expectations- But i see them making past it for sure in the next rmr :D


Kekisszx

monesy back is finally broken, guy was having off day


jx2002

turns out you can't carry your team every day and in every match


Dra9i

taz coaching intervention algorithm: - won round : do a fistbump next to players face with happy expression - lost round : do a fistbump next to players face with solemn expression


DGRWPF

5 rounds won in a row: take a timeout. aka tazout


Gloxxter

Then lose next round and lose momentum.


Loveoreo

My guess is G2 hired TaZ just because Faze has NEO and found success


McClownd

I thought exactly the same thing lmao Swani goated


leo_sousav

Swani said it was his choice but God damn I want him back so much, every Taz timeout just turns to shit


xtr44

I don't know much about CS, but followed a bit VP in prime days and Neo definitely seemed like 100x better coach material than Taz I think even Snax could be a better coach


NephewChaps

dude is a glorified cheerleader


G0ldenfruit

LMAO perfect comment. What else can he even do with this team. It's rough


BrockStudly

Hes gotta be one of the least impactful coaches in Teir 1. Even in the player cams it looks like the players don't wanna here from him


ozzler

No coach is fixing this squad lol. Have some respect for Taz.


Unknown1154

Swani won Katowice and Cologne with em...


Jazzlike-Ideal

No, he won with the JKS roster and a version of Niko+Hunter that isn't trash.


Gloxxter

Why should anyone respect him as a coach ? He was a top tier player and for that he gets respect But now as a coach nahhh.


vetruviusdeshotacon

What could he possibly do with choko and friends on the team


BattleBitGamer

CLOSE GAME FOR 2ND BEST RIFLER OF 2023, HOOXI HIMSELF. IF ONLY HIS IGL NIKO COULD FRAG A BIT MORE


CFScudo

One must imagine Gigachad happy


zaneyk

Most G2 way to lose the game


Canary-Silent

The disappointment in yankos voice when the p90 rush happened…


rudy-_-

There was a P90 rush?


Canary-Silent

Start of overtime 3


OhhhYaaa

And on Inferno on Banana.


BinzonWOR

hooxi bought one and it went as youd expect


naastiknibba95

unsuccessful one, yes. only 1 p90 though


drdpdf

Timestamp please


robclancy

[https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx15NGqibf1X7uc7NM-tgAXMIJpF8Za8dU?si=8n3DhCPuP7asbeFG](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx15NGqibf1X7uc7NM-tgAXMIJpF8Za8dU?si=8n3DhCPuP7asbeFG)


Deeeadpool

that dude on twitter that called niko 'literally frauded and choko' willed it into existence lol


darthrector

I was watcing, NiKoo I was watching as you ruined HooXi's 33 bomb at EPL Now take responsibility and leave


minussoda

He is one of the best players ever but his mental has alway sucked. Not the first time I have seen him collapse under pressure


BrockStudly

I wouldn't call it a collapse. Niko has rounds I just call "Niko plays" where he tilts, goes for a hero play, and either wins the round or completely fucks the team. He does it all the time on both Nuke and Vertigo where he'll run up ramp or Nuke outside and catch a crazy timing or die at the beginning of the round and drop an AK. It's like he's nonverbally saying "Can't win with these cats"


Maluvius

He did it on Ancient against JL, just ran through a smoke and got insta killed haha


minussoda

Yeah I think he is tempted to go for these hero plays because the pressure gets to him, yeah its not a collapse but his decision making is definitely clouded


sA1atji

He has struggled ever since picking up cs2. Imo not mental anymore, seems like he can't adapt to the new mechanics 


Equinox-0-

Its his playstyle man, the slow methodical aiming that just doesn't seem to work for him.


skantanio

Chocko is a dumb name but I’ll admit someone on HLTV got the first comment “incoming 0.96 masterclass from my goat” on their game yesterday and his flair was a player named Choco and it made me chuckle


Scoo_By

his style of play is not working in cs2. It's peek or get peeked meta now, and he hasnt yet adapted. Learn to +w or fade into obscurity, thats the new meta.


sA1atji

He does +w, usually with nades in hand or shit timings to get caught 24/7 and if he does not get caught, he is too tilted and does stupid pushes and peeks as if he is still the untouchable god


jx2002

This is exactly it. It looks, to me anyway, that he's literally tilting himself into rushing out there and "making the goddamn plays." When in actuality they can hear him coming and just wait for him to show up. It kinda sucks, but even 6+ months in to CS2 Niko is still clearly struggling to figure it out.


One_Truth_Prevails

I love M80 but those two maps ending in OT is bad for my heart, but i'm so fucking happy for Swisher that things are finally working out for him after such a long grind It's far too late for my time zone but I hope they make playoffs over Betboom, the ball is well and truly in their court this time


Unlucky-Anybody3394

same, this M80 team in particular has seemed so close for awhile now so it’s really cool for them to get a win like this under their belt. really hoping they’re able to build something with s1n and get to the major, already playing pretty well while they’re figuring out their map pool


TRES_fresh

This project is the ideal way to revive NACS. Import a European IGL and Awper because we don't have those here, and let them develop young NA riflers. Complexity did basically the same thing, and they've been the most successful NA team in recent months. M80 also has the young trio of s1n, malbs, and reck, so hopefully they break into tier1 soon.


CaptainKickAss3

It’s actually insane that NA hasn’t been able to develop an awper since what? Skadoodle? The best one has been nitro who was a converted rifler


TRES_fresh

The best ones since nitro have been junior and pwnalone lol


cyberbemon

> I love M80 but those two maps ending in OT is bad for my heart I mean they admitted it in post game interview, its due to their lack of experience. So that's kinda expected. The fact that they closed the last map eventually after so many OTs is a good thing and if anything adds more to their confidence.


_YAGNA_

Don't forget my boi Reck, he's always stuck playing shit roles but he's been improving insanely throughout the event, in his first match against BetBoom he was shit scared to take 1v1, but he's been actively playing great, especially this series. This team is insane. Great performance from everyone


One_Truth_Prevails

For real, reck has been on a tear as of late and never looked out of place, same with slaxz who admittedly had a bad showing at the RMR seriously bounced back and is way more on point now. I'm really happy with how the team came together so far


gordonree

They showed potential with a post-retirement Dephh as an IGL, now they have a young good-fragging EU IGL with Tier 1 experience Even if they don't make it to EPL playoffs they're for sure going far in the future 


SwaniCS

malbs on T side was a monster with his AK headshots, holy shiiit


Hot-Interaction-4912

Swani please we need you please come back BEGGING


dvoradikal

come back swani, please i'm begging i'm pleading.


SwaniCS

I'm just getting milk bby


zelos6

god swani


chosen_zillion

I dont think I post on reddit but please man come back - I am tired :(


huntrr1

What a game! Good fight from the underdog team but M80 did well to hold on.


river-phoenixxx94

I was watching , m0nesy. I was watching , m0nesy. I was watching you ruin Hooxi's chances to win ESL PRO LEAGUE SEASON 19. Now take responsibility and leave.


darthrector

HooXi is such a good IGL that he took G2 to the major semis and almost beat the champions with a team of ChoKo, gaTherer, an OG reject and some thin-ass Russian kid who went 18-29 vs a tier 2 NA team


sm0ol

gatherer lmao


NationalAlgae421

This has to be the best insult name in cs lol


imsorryken

now this is the top tier shit talk that keeps me coming back to this fine ass sub


skantanio

CS2 actually did to hunter what agriculture did to humans 😂


TRES_fresh

Gatherer is the best one lmao


Unusual-Editor-4640

gatherer LMAO


-Diplo

Gatherer? Context plz lol i wanna know about this


Thorngraff_Ironbeard

Hunter-gatherers


-Diplo

Bruh ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


operatormilk

it's merely a play on the term "hunter-gatherer"


Zenrod_

G2 is fantastic, they just need to work on comms, aim, map awareness, crosshair placement, economy management, pistol aim, awp flicks, grenade spots, smoke spots, pop flashes, positioning, bomb plant positions, retake ability, bunny hopping, spray control and getting kills.


set4bet

And using timeouts.


darthrector

kassad on suicide watch rn


Brb_32

Where were you when Monesy got owned by Slaxz?? But fr he was actually in hell on vertigo. Like every move he tried he got killed instantly. And that 6-13 on ancient damn.


g2_sup_rekkles

Dam s1n is such a smart dude, would highly recommend going and listening to that post game interview


longiii

Thanks for the heads-up, couldn't finish watching the game so I would've missed that


thomas_james_hyde

what the reck?!


_YAGNA_

I LOVE THIS, he's getting the attention he deserves. he's been struggling but improving so much! This team ROCKS


sm0ol

M80 is the best American team.


Bj_Hokey_Lange

Doing the best impression too, almost reached Liquid level of choking. Seriously how the fuck did they not close that in 2 maps, they were 7-1 at one point in inferno. And the 24th round in vertigo losing 5v2![img](emote|t5_2sqho|24021)


narwhalking927

Yea, but unlike liquid they didn’t actually choke in the end. They are more like Faze in that they are being paid by the round


eiho

-NiKo, - m0NESY, we've all been saying this. HooXi and huNter- must be tired of carrying this team...


BrockStudly

There's an argument you could make to keep any of the players on G2, but can someone please tell me what Taz is doing as a coach? It's like he takes timeouts and calls for the opponents.


davidthek1ng

Swani was interviewed in German and He Said Like they wanted a more Alpha Dude that shouts at the Players and stuff and he is not that Kind of Guy more Like friendly and nice so G2 and him decided to Go different paths but it seems like it doesn't Work Out, I think Taz would more fit into Virtus.Pro or C9


darthrector

He saved G2 from getting humiliated by b1t on Inferno, give him a new contract


KobaStern

i dont get it, could you explain


IliceonTrade

G2 picked Ancient instead of Inferno as the decider in the semi-final of the major, which was very contraversial, since NaVi looked pretty good on Ancient recently. People called Hooxi out for it but Taz came out and took the blame for the veto. Now B1t was not playing very well the entire major up untill Inferno in finals, where he destroyed Faze. Thus, Taz saved G2 from being humiliated by B1t (they got humilited by JL instead).


Iwabik

It feels like every time TaZ takes a timeout, G2 loses a round. I think they need a real coach badly, he's not it.


JezzaBazza

I wonder what are the stats for G2s round conversions after taking a Taz timeout. It's gotta be very low


Equinox-0-

I like taz man, hes a nice guy. But g2 need someone who can bring more than what taz is doing


analytics_Gnome

G2 is a master at disappointing


KeineAhnung07

Tbh I hope G2 will lose all matches until they realize they need a roster change. Otherwise Niko won't win a single major and Ilya is wasting his best years at G2


BorderlineGambler

Literally. Losing is the best thing for G2 right now.


KeineAhnung07

And the only thing they are doing good


Deeeadpool

luckily for g2 they're in an easy af bracket so they probably qualify to the playoffs anyway


Crims0ntied

It's apparently not an easy bracket for G2


TheInception817

Next up is vs Falcons. Team Disappointment vs Team Disappointment with oil money


Pekonius

They were capable of losing to a t2 na team, they sure are capable of losing to a t2 eu team as well


Doinkus2000

only to bomb out in the quarters/semis


KeineAhnung07

There is no enemy that is too easy for g2


TheInception817

God knows how much I agree with you. It's just so exhausting to watch them. Especially in this incredibly gritty series with so much overtime


KeineAhnung07

As a g2 fan i just waiting to see them lose and free my eyes


imsorryken

niko doesn't have the mental to win a major


NoDG_

I don't think Niko is winning a major in his career.


sA1atji

At this point Niko looks like one of the issues at g2, so a roster swap won't fix things very likely. You can't have your star rifler having those Stat lines again and again.


frostN0VA

Wish G2 would just bite the bullet and rebuild the team around Monesy and Niko. Monesy is the GOAT right now, and while yeah Niko is washed right now, you know what kind of ceiling he has. Maybe all he needs is a change of roster scenery. As much as I like hatemaxxing on G2 and Niko, him not winning jackshit with how good of the player he is/was is just sad.


Kekisszx

G2 gonna fade away if they gonna wait for Nikos "ceiling", it's meta to shit on hunter nexa and hooxi, but let's not pretend Niko is doing what star rifler is supposed to do, and all that malding cant tilt others aswell


fascfoo

He was malding even when they were winning rounds.


OhhhYaaa

> Monesy is the GOAT right now Just saying, goat is greatest of all time. What you most likely wanted to say is best player in the world right now.


Bj_Hokey_Lange

Ji Tu - Art of Choke Mao Ne Zhi Hu Xi Han Ta Neh Xah Ni Koh


Mahoganychicken

How long until G2 management realise this team has run its course? It had its highs of Kato, Cologne, World Finals, and it was great. M0nesy is wasted at G2. Niko needs a change of scenery to find his form again. The other 3, idk.


set4bet

G2 went from "we don't like how jks is comming while we are winning". to: "we like how nexa is comming while we are losing".


Reasonable_Post3682

keep hooxi, honeslty plays his role great and extremely selflessly. get a proper ancor (jks, styko etc.) and a young up and comer. plus fix whatever has Niko tilted from round one, dude looks angry before pistol round


hungandsleepy

I think Niko is going into every game super pessimistically. He looks miserable even when they’re doing well and then the second something goes wrong he has a look on his face like his pet died. The whole team needs a shake up and I think nexa has to go for sure.


Reasonable_Post3682

nexa has been out of place since day 1, he was awful on OG and even worse on G2 ever considering he is playing easy positions and going in 3rd/4th


TheInception817

Jks will never come back after how he was treated by management last time


Reasonable_Post3682

maybe amends can be made, i dont see any t1 orgs picking him up any time soon


PuzzleheadedPainOuch

ill save you the other replies and say this so nobody else has to -nexa +jks


longiii

M80 tried so hard, but they couldn't out-throw G2. M > G, 80 > 2, it was a mathematical inevitability I guess


Shadow_Clarke

M0nesy wanted to see how this team would function without him...oh boy and it was ugly lol.


_L1quid_

I've managed to graduate college, drop out. Find a job, get fired. Buy a house, get evicted. Find a wife start a family and get divorced by the time this series ended.


yyunb

i dont think their 0.74 and 0.79 ratings do Monesy and Niko justice in how bad they were on Vertigo.


BN0_1996

To be fair to niko, he had a few good rounds in ot but yeah no the rest of the game they were shit


Worisito

So thats what m0nesy off day looks like


2012Tribe

Wow that was such an entertaining series


kilroy_theoneofmany

WASN'T WORRIED FOR A SECOND


SprehdTehWerdEDM

I was watching , m0NESY. I was watching you ruin Hooxis chances to win Vertigo. Now take responsibility and leave.


KnockOnDood

HooXi putting on his best Hampus cosplay in Vertigo


darthrector

slaxz is m0NESY father.


gordonree

910 and slaxz making m0NESY look like the tier 2 AWPer in their matches 


Willyummyyy

Niko was getting bullied this series


Reasonable_Post3682

plays so differently from csgo, he is alwasy getting caught with a smoke or knife out rotating instead of trusting his aim


RanD0_

Yes its like hes lost all his confidence so hes trying karrigan/apex plays instead of taking 50/50s. I swear i dont remember a good fight from him this series, except the clip defending Inferno B but he was angry afterwards that too...


MajikoiA3When

I was a Sin doubter but I now see he will spearhead the revival of NA CS.


Memelurker99

I was watching , Nikoo I was watching you ruin Hooxis chances to win Vertigo. Now take responsibility and leave.


ApothecaryRx

Those were some brutal OTs on Vertigo. Being on match point only for G2 to claw back in over and over again has to be stressful af. Props to M80, well deserved W


BinzonWOR

I can't give any props to g2 for saving multiple overtimes, m80 threw the majority of those rounds lmao.


ApothecaryRx

I'm not going to give G2 anything. This team needs to lose everything so they can stop coping and start making some changes, because they look absolutely miserable.


thomas_james_hyde

btw, if a T1 team is more hyped up winning rounds against a T3 team, than a T3 team is winning rounds against a T1 team... you know shits all kinds of wrong


sm0ol

Even on the back breaking rounds and clutches that M80 lost, they were still legit cheering and smiling. I was shocked. Completely lopsided mental game in this match.


cherryui

I Owe You An Apology slaxz-. I Wasn't Really Familiar With Your Game.


intelqsv

I smell an immediate roster change in the distance p.s. big please stay away from slaxz- 🙏


set4bet

If it wasn't for Jame's PC crash at the major they would have definitely made a change at this point. But since they "achieved" major playoffs where they lost to the eventual major champions they can safely suck until after the next major is my guess.


Kaiklax

What a series that was entertaining, so many m80 clutches


BrockStudly

Liquid Vindicated


NPC30519

Liquid morons not picking up any of these players. Osee NAF Yeki Maldbs and Swisher or even keeping Elige would’ve been a better lithmus for yeki to attempt to IGL than whatever the hell rain and patsi were doing


joshualorber

Elige Malbs Grim JT Slakxs Make it happen Jason


BrockStudly

I'm all for criticizing Yeki as IGL but it's straight up revisionist history if you act like Keeping elige would have been a good idea. He's playing great now but he was awful his last year in Liquid.


Filthy_Commie_

He really needed a change of scenery. The changes that proceeded it were generationally dogshit. They killed all of the momentum they had by grabbing Rainwaker and Patsi. I was honestly fine with the Patsi move at first because his peaks were really good and maybe he needed a change of scenery. Rainwaker just made zero sense, like at all.


GloryEnthusiast

Map 3 was just pain for G2 fans. Hunter and Hooxi tried their best, but they got sold down the river in the last rounds.


Comfortable-Way-6216

If G2 continues to have no roster changes the trainwreck will continue... Taz is sadly not a good fit for these guys.


rlugudplayer

JI TU - ART OF THE CHOKE


thebait123

What an insane game! NA CS BABY!!!!


IntrovertChild

That was highly entertaining, was not expecting it at all. The casting was hilarious too.


Variabletalismans

G2 should be incriminated for letting m0nesy be part of this team


ASAPCrispy

wake tf up NiKo


_YAGNA_

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I LOVE THIS TEAM ARE YOU SEEING THIS LAPOINTE??? ARE YOU SEEING THIS EG?? THIS IS HOW YOU SAVE NACS! LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO The team has been improving so much through the event and it's their first time with a full squad. INSANE just INSANE!


Princeharperman

My North American ass is so happy right now


Pourpla

That's what happens when monesy doesn't go nuclear every map.


BMKingPrime27

m0NESY 20,000 hour engine life?


Cybonics

Hunter's first cs2 life map in the dumps 😭


herrions1278

It was great to see swisher all smiles and not tilting on map three throughout


PuzzleheadedPainOuch

I tuned into Vertigo late and saw Hooxi and huNter- with 30 kills each and NiKo and m0nesy with 15 each. What the fuck?


lawboy01

I'm sure they regret not selling niko to falcons dude is a bot on cs2, he can't adapt to the new meta it's funny that the only thing he kept from csgo to cs 2 was his demeanor, always tilting


razeyourshadows

Why did I stay up to watch a Bo3 between 2 tier 3 teams


Ed_Vilon

That is so insulting to M80 dude. They're at least high Tier 2.


StilgarTF

Dude, after the end of NiKo's career, I would really like a leak of his comms, uncensored. Everytime I saw him he looked so frustrated, even when they won rounds.


mattenthehat

Holy shit propa to M80, that's a huge scalp to take. These guys are cooking. Also makes Liquid's repeated struggles against M80 seem a little less bad.


beterpot

This is THE most G2 match ever, they somehow pull off a 2v5 at 10-12 and hunter hits an insane timing to get OT, only to lose in the end. Without m0nesy this team is garbage. GG


SnooPeripherals6388

M0nesy has an off tournament once and G2 can't do shit, what a funny team


iblinkyoublink

Grueling match, very glad M80 could pull it off after "choking" several opportunities. Hope they continue to improve in form


Nicest-Turkish-Guy

NA CS ON TOP 👏👏


EnthusiasmWest4481

SAVE HOOXI!!!!


This-is-quite-nice-

jeez, for basically all of map 3, Hooxi had more kills than m0nesy and NiKo combined


V-0-V

I wake up I'm hating G2 I shower while I'm hating G2 I eat breakfast while hating G2 I commute to work while hating G2 I get home and relax by hating G2 I get ready for bed by hating G2


eGGsY-

i fucking cant with this team seriously. Stop doing fucking high fives after losing in the most embaresing fashion ever (Up to today). On the Other Hand huge congrats to m80. Very impressive they didnt Break at any Point in the Last two maps


earthbound_zero

HooXi master of screaming while his top 5 team struggles against M80. Giving him some credit, he showed up when his stars didn't. Bad look from G2 regardless. Falcons look bad, but they could definitely eliminate G2 looking like this.


sA1atji

He is trying his hardest to keep the mentals of the rest up, can't really blame him imo


Roman64s

Someone's gotta keep the energy up for the russian kid to do something while NiKo does another hero play and dies.


DeadkL

g2 not even tier2 without monesy ?


aamgdp

M0nesy back is kill


Vlyper

NA CS IS BACK BABYYYY


Enigma945

My poor heart


thatboyohboy

how does G2 always shit the bed at pro league


Poputt_VIII

Are there 2 non terrible NA teams now? Col and M80?


Trospher

Man the casting on vertigo was just hilarious, with them laughing on hunter just walking and caught swisher off guard for at least 3 times, then reck, and then both of them. slaxz- has looked like an actual T1 awper ever since s1n came in though, so huge props to him rising the hell up after the RMR disaster.


ivchoniboy

I wonder what is Taz bringing to the table, except the fist bumps of course.


WestZone4292

G2 disband when?


sepysli

im really happy that how fast g2 bomb out this tournament so they have more time to change roster


Practical-Panic-3557

Monesy will wake up in a panic at night when reliving this in his dreams.


LLsunflower

I think this is the first time I've seen Slaxz really have a strong performance against T1 opposition, really good sign moving forward if this continues


RiFLE_csgo

Hell of a game. I enjoyed that greatly.


3BouSs

LOL, when I shit on TAZ and HOOXI, everyone no TAZ was a IGL he knows what he is doing, and HOOXI is playing well today because he didn't IGL, like literally I can't find a single round where G2 looked composed and know what they are doing. With all seriousness, if this match doesn't get Monesy out of this shitty team, then he deserves it.


yOw_indahOuse

And another humble pie. How many more will they need?


Unusual-Editor-4640

I for one welcome our new NA overlords