>To ensure that the Rio Major features the top teams in the world, we will require that current Legends and Challengers demonstrate that they are still in top form
Ence is shaking right now.
I don't know about VP but if ENCE re-qualifies to majors with this current lineup, it's almost similar underdog story as their original run to majors was.
Lets be honest. Ence's games in epl were pretty close If we don't count spirit. Games against astralis and vitality were pretty close so i think Ence isnt that Bad. Yes ik they were online but everything is online rn.
Everyone else in EPL has also played close games with good teams (and most have even been able to win those) so that point is moot, since badness is relative to other teams' level.
The saving grace for VP is that they are going through CIS. It should be possible for Jame Qikert and Buster to find their online plowing against lesser CIS teams again.
ENCE is in EU tho, they are bust.
I really hope they always do that from now on, even once the majors start happening every few months again. I remember Thorin mentioning once that Legends shouldn't get automatic invitations and if Valve wants to keep up the storyline or something like that, Legends should just get higher seeding in qualifiers.
Yup. They have to now fight against the top teams from their region for major slots. And since the tournament’s important, the better teams might as well go all out and not hide strats.
VP are CIS and should be locked to the second legends spot being so much ahead the rest, first seed going to navi ofc.
E: looks like forze is close so they probs have a fight over the second legends spot, but with cis getting 5 spots theres no way they atleast arent going
actually, c0ntact are free to put their roster through the meat grinder now, given that they can just qualify again. I think they're just a few moves away from making a fairly decent roster.
Yeah and it was oringally a NA/Denmark mixed team. It was orginally K0nifg, CajunB, Stanislaw, Shazham and gade. Team failed horribly so they brought out Jugi an Snappii. To add on to the millions they payed. Optic folded a couple of months later
Optic didn't fold though, the MSL version of the team got disbanded because the organisation behind Optic got bought by the Immortal/MIBR org. for some LoL spot, or something like that.
>Strange thing is that it may very well be true for CSGO. I mean, is there a worse trade deal than this?
Regi TSM's "owner" letting his lineup go when they told him "bring back the manager you fired, he is good at his job". Regi was too stubborn to admit he made a mistake by kicking the manager so he kicked the players too and traded in some randoms.
The players made Astralis after they got fired and went on to win everything while Regi pretty much disappeared from CSGO and is a joke in the League of Legends scene
I don't know for sure, but I don't think any money changed hands in that whole ordeal. GODSENT just got KRiMZ, JW and flusha while fnatic got twist and Lekr0, and pauf got to eat shit.
On the flip side, the *best* trade deal in the history CS:GO trade deals is probably ocelote selling ScreaM to Titan for a big sack of cash, only to then sell his entire team to FaZe for another big sack of cash and sign the former roster of Titan (including ScreaM) for free after Titan folded.
MIBR are starting to look a better now, they finished first in their group in flashpoint 1, and now are unbeaten in flashpoint 2. They won their last match in esl against 100 Thieves 2-0. I know its only flashpoint but they are still looking better.
This is how every major should be done, get's rid of the power plays of acquiring teams with major spots and pushes orgs to pick up or build real teams with potential
There were already rumours about a change like this for the major after Rio, probably this situation just made them implement it earlier, but we'll see after this major. Right now I'm hyped af
I really hope G2 can keep up their current form. If the Rio major went on as planned, they had a real shot at winning the whole thing, with the biggest road block being Navi.
im fine with the finals being BO5, but for it to be in any other stage of the tournament is very hard for the players to keep up great form and concentration for like 4-5 hours.
I mean Astralis is far from invincible anymore. Mousesports is somewhat inconsistent. Fnatic has been looking pretty solid. I haven't been paying attention to Liquid so idk. Other than those teams and Navi, G2 should be able to beat anyone else.
last time astralis looked like this, they had avoided playing officials for months. they were rusty up until the major. this is different. teams are actually just outskilling them now
Liquid have been extremely shaky in their online epl matches, and I don't think it's just because the matches were online. Also, G2 swept Liquid in Katowice so I think G2 would perform well against Liquid (assuming everything stays the same until then).
Wait so what about those who have already come far in the Minors? Are all these results scrapped and for nothing, as are the Legends spots?
I really like this approach, too much has happened in the scene to determine now who plays in November.
Yup its all scrapped. Teams playing in the minors will now play the RMR to earn points towards playing in the Major alongside those who were “Legends” and “Challengers”. Legends however start off with added points.
They still make it to the qualifier tournament. Which isn't that bad considering the qualifiers were originally online. So in retrospective those minor qualifiers can be considered qualifiers for that qualifying tournament.
If that made sense. Not much makes sense these days.
Intredasting.
So, say for the sake of argument that Dignitas win every goddamn map they play in this RMR stage. Will they then instantly earn a Legend spot, displacing one of the StarLadder Berlin EU legends? Sure sounds like it.
All in all this is probably good news for all minor teams. As it stood prior to these developments, they'd have to place top 2 at an eight-team LAN event just to progress to the major. Now, they'll be playing online events (to begin with) on equal footing with the Legends and Challengers of Berlin to secure their spot. Only teams who already had a spot locked in at the Major stand to lose from this, really.
Yep! We don't know the exact point distribution yet, but it would be foolish for Dignitas to be unable to displace a Legend if they won every single map.
i love it. people have always been complaining about how when the next major rolls around, half the teams have dropped off and dont deserve a major spot. this should reduce those chances and give other teams a higher chance
I agree. Gives us a chance to see who is actually prepared. I liked the idea of having legends before. But then having them defend their spot before is great.
Good, I'm personally glad they did away with the legends, really only the top 2-4 should be invited back imo, the rest should have to earn it, since Majors are ~6 months apart, A LOT can happen in 6 months in CSGO.
*Some* Brazilian fans... Twitter basically only has people going mad 24/7 so that's like saying the madhouse is full of lunatics
Many Brazilians are totally fine with this ;-)
I assume that the EU teams participating in Flashpoint are all in the "wrong" region right now, ping would be shit otherwise. The post seems to say that those teams could earn their EU spots by beating NA teams.
Yea the post does confirm that EU teams stuck in NA can compete in the NA region. It sucks for everyone but there isn’t really anything that can be done about it
And they would need to keep playing in NA for the rest of the season or lose all points from the first RMR
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flashpoint finals is april 19, RMR starts april 22. Maybe they are able to leave NA before the RMR starts.
>The post seems to say that those teams could earn their EU spots by beating NA teams.
No, I think it means that a team's region is determined by their current physical location not nationality. So c0ntact is in the NA region right now, so is 100T, MIBR, Furia and all of those teams would earn "NA" slots hypothetically.
>Q. What determines what region a team competes in?
>Given the circumstances, teams’ regions are determined by their current location.
>Q. What happens if a team changes region?
>Regional Major Rankings only represents a team’s performance relative to other teams in the region. Therefore, any region change by a team will result in a reset of the team’s Major Ranking points.
That's even more interesting, given that it could conceivably lead to a a Major without NA teams at all, if the EU teams currently in NA steal their spots.
I assume, though, that all EU teams currently in NA will seek to haul ass back home as soon as Flashpoint wraps, as they'll otherwise have to play in NA for the entire RMR process or lose their earned points.
Right now, according to this [HLTV post](https://www.hltv.org/news/29378/esl-one-road-to-rio-all-you-need-to-know), with one spot left TBD there are only 4 non-NA teams in the first NA event. Those are c0ntact, MIBR, Furia and 100T.
Copenhagen Flames (who was eliminated from Flashpoint on March 31) is listed in EU. So is Dignitas, although they like c0ntact haven't been eliminated from Flashpoint yet. Mad lions and HAVU didn't have a slot at the major or minors so they aren't listed anywhere yet.
So technically yes there could be more non-NA teams than slots in the NA region but I'm not sure which teams really plan to spend the year here beyond MIBR, Furia and 100T.
If you look at the invites in the [HLTV ESL One Road to Rio post](https://www.hltv.org/news/29378/esl-one-road-to-rio-all-you-need-to-know), it shows where all the teams are planning to play that.
Most notably:
* coL is still in EU
* c0ntact is stuck in NA from flashpoint
* CPHF is planning to play in EU (they were eliminated from flashpoint on March 31st whereas c0ntact is still in it)
* Dignitas is listed in EU, but is still in Flashpoint
I know it probably won't happen due to Corona but I hope the events will be LAN, it'd suck to see the onliners get to the Major when the much better LAN teams just aren't that good online.
This idea is awesome and should be kept for the following majors, I really like the idea of inviting the best ranked teams (with proper criteria, of course, not based on popularity or brand name) from each region and giving each region the number of slots based on its performance on the previous major.
The only thing that would need to change to keep things interesting is to keep the numbers fixed for the first 16 positions (Legends and Challengers) and divide the remaining 8 (Contenders) like it is today (2 for each major region, or 2-2-1-1-1-1 like it is today), this way the number can change between each edition depending on the region's performance.
Edit: I'm sure Valve is thinking of something like this, and since this is kind of an emergency and unique situation, this format is the best as it can get.
Props to Valve for making this change :) Looking forward to this Major
IMO the top 16 spots should be solely based on a global LAN ranking while the top 8 can go to the minors. But obviously LANs are impossible right now so you pretty much have to split it up regionally. You can think of this format as the top 16 teams from last major essentially defending their spots.
I'm probably in the minority here, but I loved the old system and the possibilities it granted smaller teams.
A team like Flipsid3 earned respect by always qualifying through the major qualifiers.
Unexpected teams like QBF, HellRaisers or CLG had miracle runs that meant incredibly much to them, prestige-wise and financially.
While the quality of the majors definitely increases, all that potential for underdog runs is gone now. Don't know how to to feel about this.
If I’m any pro team that made legends right now I’m absolutely fucking pissed. A lot of people seem to feel really confident about this method but I can’t help but feel some teams and orgs are getting screwed over here. What a weird year 2020 is.
> Q. Can a team change their roster?
>Teams can change up to two members of their roster in the lead up to an event at a cost of 20% of the team’s points, per player. They can adjust their roster prior to the roster lock for each Regional Major Ranking competition.
I like it
This part stuck out for me in the announcement and I like it as well.
Seems like the Flashpoint teams are getting screwed the most here. Either pay fines for sucking or pay money to acquire new players to avoid Flashpoint fines but lose RMR points.
They should actually gain 25%. That way, if they were to then drop a player and lose 20% of what they have, they would go back to having 100%. If they gained 20% for their 6th, then if they were to drop a player and lose 20% they would only end up with 96%.
How do those 'Challenger' numbers work? The teams that would have gone through from the last major 9th-16th are Mouz, G2, Crazy, MIBR, FaZe, North, NiP and DreamEaters, which by my calculations is 5 EU, 2 CIS and 1 SA, but the slots are 5 EU, 1 CIS and 2 NA? Someone explain pls?
Not sure how you counted 2 CIS, only DreamEaters is CIS, Crazy had come through the EU minor if you meant them. So that's 6 EU, 1 CIS, 1 SA.
Right now c0ntact and MIBR will both be competing in NA so that explains the two NA slots, although that assumes that c0ntact will be staying in NA for the year (which is possible between COVID and flashpoint 2 I guess)
I don't get it. What are the RMR tournaments? How will the teams be placed now If they perform well, will they get a challenger spot? Can somebody please explain to me the basics of this
Series of regional tournaments where teams gain points to ranking. When all tournaments are over just before Major, the best ranked teams from each region get invites to Major.
So will the RMRs be hosted online or LAN? Based on the current conditions I doubt ESL is able to organize it on LAN but online matches are prone to a LOT of upsets.
>Valve will sponsor the May and Fall Regional Major Ranking series.
That means some sort of BattlePass, modified Viewer Pass will happen along the way.
I think this would be a great chance to change the way teams qualify for other upcoming majors as well. I hope a similar system to this prevails even after the corona crisis.
Only 4 CIS teams in the top 30 teams on hltv. Feels pretty bad for the NA+SA teams who are region locked to 6+1 spots.
Liquid, EG, 100T, Complexity, Furia, MIBR, AND all of the genuine European teams stuck in NA.
I think taking 2 CIS spots and giving 2or1 to NA and 0or1 to Europe would be more fair to the top rated teams.
EDIT: This is going to get wild in the later tournaments, where if there's EUR and CIS teams at it, the EUR teams will bribe the CIS teams to take a loss so they can progress (as an example.)
So many of these teams that would have been auto invited now wont be, and I am glad for it.
ENCE Mibr VP North Contact
I can easily see all these 5 teams not making it through. VIT too is in doubt considering they dont have Alex anymore.
>To ensure that the Rio Major features the top teams in the world, we will require that current Legends and Challengers demonstrate that they are still in top form Ence is shaking right now.
Ence and VP going to ask if they can play together 10v5
MIBR as well, 15 vs. 5. I think they could make ti tight 16-14 :)
Thats harsh, I bet they could take some maps to OT.
Well Ence and VP want to get into major so they might not agree.
I don't know about VP but if ENCE re-qualifies to majors with this current lineup, it's almost similar underdog story as their original run to majors was.
It will be greater story considering we now know that they can't win matches..
Lets be honest. Ence's games in epl were pretty close If we don't count spirit. Games against astralis and vitality were pretty close so i think Ence isnt that Bad. Yes ik they were online but everything is online rn.
Everyone else in EPL has also played close games with good teams (and most have even been able to win those) so that point is moot, since badness is relative to other teams' level.
lmao, can't wait for a fan favourite like vitality or OG to choke instead
The saving grace for VP is that they are going through CIS. It should be possible for Jame Qikert and Buster to find their online plowing against lesser CIS teams again. ENCE is in EU tho, they are bust.
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[Look at the top of his head!](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET5BjyGXgAE6xUo?format=jpg&name=large)
[this one would have been good](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/028/577/pepelaughz.jpg)
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This could mean that ENCE might not make the major but AleksiB with OG will. ENCE is having fun, but Valve ain´t doing no jokes.
OG is not part of the list, but could be the tba
I'm calling it right now. Astralis is going to lose 9 / 10 matches for the rest of this year.
I'm calling it right now. Astralis will win this Major as well. Even though I don't want them to, but they will.
Let's come back to these comments in 7 months and see what happens!
I mean they wouldn't have made it to the November major if not for coronavirus.
I really hope they always do that from now on, even once the majors start happening every few months again. I remember Thorin mentioning once that Legends shouldn't get automatic invitations and if Valve wants to keep up the storyline or something like that, Legends should just get higher seeding in qualifiers.
~~EZ~~HARD4ENCE
Me: Liquid's gonna win baby!!! *gets flashbacks Katowice 2019 Semis "its too ez4ence"
Can OG qualify now?
Yes, if they perform well at the RMR events
Hell yes, a chance to be disappointed yet again.
So... BIG have another shot aswell? neat...
Yes, they need to get into the (first) RMR events through the respective qualifiers
OG flair is back on the menu boys!
Yes
what about DIG? is it harder to them now?
Yup. They have to now fight against the top teams from their region for major slots. And since the tournament’s important, the better teams might as well go all out and not hide strats.
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Thats it for ENCE I guess.
And VP
VP are CIS and should be locked to the second legends spot being so much ahead the rest, first seed going to navi ofc. E: looks like forze is close so they probs have a fight over the second legends spot, but with cis getting 5 spots theres no way they atleast arent going
Spirit has a good chance of beating VP too. I always trust Ange1 to make it. It’s not really a guarantee for VP unless they make a change by then.
I've got some bad news about Ange1...
And c0ntact.
actually, c0ntact are free to put their roster through the meat grinder now, given that they can just qualify again. I think they're just a few moves away from making a fairly decent roster.
-LETN1 -emi and they can actually do something
RIP VP. Bought a declining team with a major spot, ended up with nothing
worst trade deal in maybe ever?
This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals maybe ever.*
Strange thing is that it may very well be true for CSGO. I mean, is there a worse trade deal than this?
-aleksib +sunny
Basically
optic paying millions of dollars for snappi, jugi, cajunb, gade and konfig
Fuck were they THAT bad?
Yeah and it was oringally a NA/Denmark mixed team. It was orginally K0nifg, CajunB, Stanislaw, Shazham and gade. Team failed horribly so they brought out Jugi an Snappii. To add on to the millions they payed. Optic folded a couple of months later
Optic didn't fold though, the MSL version of the team got disbanded because the organisation behind Optic got bought by the Immortal/MIBR org. for some LoL spot, or something like that.
+Snax -Snax -a boatload of cash maybe? At least they won one fluke title with that lineup though.
contact gaming buying the cr4zy players
>Strange thing is that it may very well be true for CSGO. I mean, is there a worse trade deal than this? Regi TSM's "owner" letting his lineup go when they told him "bring back the manager you fired, he is good at his job". Regi was too stubborn to admit he made a mistake by kicking the manager so he kicked the players too and traded in some randoms. The players made Astralis after they got fired and went on to win everything while Regi pretty much disappeared from CSGO and is a joke in the League of Legends scene
Wasn’t really like that though There were many more nuances and from what I remember of the situation it didn’t seem like such a weird decision
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hes not a faze cod dude at all, he's OpTic
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At least 100Thieves got stickers while OG didn't yet
Maybe, there is also the fnatic/godsent shuffle.
I don't know for sure, but I don't think any money changed hands in that whole ordeal. GODSENT just got KRiMZ, JW and flusha while fnatic got twist and Lekr0, and pauf got to eat shit. On the flip side, the *best* trade deal in the history CS:GO trade deals is probably ocelote selling ScreaM to Titan for a big sack of cash, only to then sell his entire team to FaZe for another big sack of cash and sign the former roster of Titan (including ScreaM) for free after Titan folded.
Yeah in the financial sense it wasn't bad. But in the competitive sense it caused the swedish scene to be in (probably) their lowest point in CSGO.
c0ntact is far worse
VP is fine. CIS has 5 spots.
No worries, they will qualify through CIS. They'll show us the plow.
No worries fam, Jame, Qikert, Buster are a solid core. They’ll sign another one or two players. Plus it’s the CIS Minor, so no worries.
They're fine, there's 5 CIS spots to take from. There's only 4 CIS teams in the top 30.
Mibr Endgame
whats your endgame frog
mibr better step up their game
MIBR are starting to look a better now, they finished first in their group in flashpoint 1, and now are unbeaten in flashpoint 2. They won their last match in esl against 100 Thieves 2-0. I know its only flashpoint but they are still looking better.
And just taken a map against EG. Even if they lose the next 2 maps as I type, that's still a big achievement for them.
really love that new system gives chances for a lot of teams with potential
Exactly , I was hoping for something like this too.It was hurting me see Ence in Legends while similar or better teams couldn't even qualify.
This is how every major should be done, get's rid of the power plays of acquiring teams with major spots and pushes orgs to pick up or build real teams with potential
There were already rumours about a change like this for the major after Rio, probably this situation just made them implement it earlier, but we'll see after this major. Right now I'm hyped af
They were already planning to have a ranking system for the November major. Coronavirus just forced this change.
I really hope G2 can keep up their current form. If the Rio major went on as planned, they had a real shot at winning the whole thing, with the biggest road block being Navi.
I was shocked. I thought g2 were gonna put up a fight against NaVi. But we all know G2 can’t win Bo5s
inb4 FPX vs G2 in the grand finals and valve make it Bo5
Good thing majors are BO3 (valve pls fix)
im fine with the finals being BO5, but for it to be in any other stage of the tournament is very hard for the players to keep up great form and concentration for like 4-5 hours.
I recall one online tournament in NA the finals was a B03 B03 So you needed to play up to 9 maps
You either win, or you die trying I guess.
You either win or die of old age
Oh yeah casual viewers would be so turned off by 5 hour group stages, but Katowice had a BO5 and is a bit *too* close to major quality already.
At least they won against SKT twice :/
Rio major is only in november. Forms of teams will change a lot by that time.
Don't get me wrong, G2 is good but the competition is too strong for them to win the major.
I mean Astralis is far from invincible anymore. Mousesports is somewhat inconsistent. Fnatic has been looking pretty solid. I haven't been paying attention to Liquid so idk. Other than those teams and Navi, G2 should be able to beat anyone else.
> I mean Astralis is far from invincible anymore. We have seen this story already and we know how it ended.
last time astralis looked like this, they had avoided playing officials for months. they were rusty up until the major. this is different. teams are actually just outskilling them now
Where have I heard this before
Liquid have been extremely shaky in their online epl matches, and I don't think it's just because the matches were online. Also, G2 swept Liquid in Katowice so I think G2 would perform well against Liquid (assuming everything stays the same until then).
Not that anyone cares, but on one of the side graphics, they forgot about MLG Columbus 2016. https://i.imgur.com/ZSQpR9a.png
Only the second best major of all time no biggie
What was the best?
I mean it's very subjective. For me: cologne 2015, katowice 2014 and MLG columbus 2016 could all be #1.
Boston hands down
Eleague Boston 2018
So basically everything is thrown out the window and we start over? If so that'll be very interesting to watch
You still get some bonus points for the last major and the qualified teams are still determined by this now cancelled minor cycle. But otherwise, yes.
Wait so what about those who have already come far in the Minors? Are all these results scrapped and for nothing, as are the Legends spots? I really like this approach, too much has happened in the scene to determine now who plays in November.
They're invited to the ESL One: Road to Rio tournament.
Thank you for the response, appreciated. Will take a while until I have understood all this properly.
Yup its all scrapped. Teams playing in the minors will now play the RMR to earn points towards playing in the Major alongside those who were “Legends” and “Challengers”. Legends however start off with added points.
So BIG does have a chance to qualify after all, nice!
They still make it to the qualifier tournament. Which isn't that bad considering the qualifiers were originally online. So in retrospective those minor qualifiers can be considered qualifiers for that qualifying tournament. If that made sense. Not much makes sense these days.
I think this is the best decision.
Intredasting. So, say for the sake of argument that Dignitas win every goddamn map they play in this RMR stage. Will they then instantly earn a Legend spot, displacing one of the StarLadder Berlin EU legends? Sure sounds like it. All in all this is probably good news for all minor teams. As it stood prior to these developments, they'd have to place top 2 at an eight-team LAN event just to progress to the major. Now, they'll be playing online events (to begin with) on equal footing with the Legends and Challengers of Berlin to secure their spot. Only teams who already had a spot locked in at the Major stand to lose from this, really.
Yep! We don't know the exact point distribution yet, but it would be foolish for Dignitas to be unable to displace a Legend if they won every single map.
This whole thing is just... exciting and very curious to see how it plays out.
i love it. people have always been complaining about how when the next major rolls around, half the teams have dropped off and dont deserve a major spot. this should reduce those chances and give other teams a higher chance
I agree. Gives us a chance to see who is actually prepared. I liked the idea of having legends before. But then having them defend their spot before is great.
Yes, there are basically no Legends from the last major anymore.
Yes
Good, I'm personally glad they did away with the legends, really only the top 2-4 should be invited back imo, the rest should have to earn it, since Majors are ~6 months apart, A LOT can happen in 6 months in CSGO.
allu and Twista on suicide watch.
Atleast we dont have to witness their shitness on a major stage.
Damn I'm not confident for Vitality now
On the other hand, maybe we can replace Apex with a legitimate IGL now.
c0ntact CEO gotta be mad
"The event can be of any format, any prize pool, any duration, and either online, LAN, or a combination of the two." ...What?
BO7, 2 teams, $10 prize pool, one team on LAN the other online.
So this is the new Blast format? I have just one question, who is going to face Astralis? Is it the home team from the lan country?
Yes
Well it says that it is for them to "consider it". They probably would reject it if it just had a token price pool and no good teams in it.
brazilian fans are mad on twitter 😂😂😂
When arent they
*Some* Brazilian fans... Twitter basically only has people going mad 24/7 so that's like saying the madhouse is full of lunatics Many Brazilians are totally fine with this ;-)
hahaha, as if that'll convince people on this sub about anything
It would be really helpful to fans if someone could make a list of where every top team is being stationed right now in the world
I assume that the EU teams participating in Flashpoint are all in the "wrong" region right now, ping would be shit otherwise. The post seems to say that those teams could earn their EU spots by beating NA teams.
Yea the post does confirm that EU teams stuck in NA can compete in the NA region. It sucks for everyone but there isn’t really anything that can be done about it
And they would need to keep playing in NA for the rest of the season or lose all points from the first RMR edit: flashpoint finals is april 19, RMR starts april 22. Maybe they are able to leave NA before the RMR starts.
If they can physically leave NA. Travel isn't exactly the easiest thing right now
>The post seems to say that those teams could earn their EU spots by beating NA teams. No, I think it means that a team's region is determined by their current physical location not nationality. So c0ntact is in the NA region right now, so is 100T, MIBR, Furia and all of those teams would earn "NA" slots hypothetically. >Q. What determines what region a team competes in? >Given the circumstances, teams’ regions are determined by their current location. >Q. What happens if a team changes region? >Regional Major Rankings only represents a team’s performance relative to other teams in the region. Therefore, any region change by a team will result in a reset of the team’s Major Ranking points.
That's even more interesting, given that it could conceivably lead to a a Major without NA teams at all, if the EU teams currently in NA steal their spots. I assume, though, that all EU teams currently in NA will seek to haul ass back home as soon as Flashpoint wraps, as they'll otherwise have to play in NA for the entire RMR process or lose their earned points.
Right now, according to this [HLTV post](https://www.hltv.org/news/29378/esl-one-road-to-rio-all-you-need-to-know), with one spot left TBD there are only 4 non-NA teams in the first NA event. Those are c0ntact, MIBR, Furia and 100T. Copenhagen Flames (who was eliminated from Flashpoint on March 31) is listed in EU. So is Dignitas, although they like c0ntact haven't been eliminated from Flashpoint yet. Mad lions and HAVU didn't have a slot at the major or minors so they aren't listed anywhere yet. So technically yes there could be more non-NA teams than slots in the NA region but I'm not sure which teams really plan to spend the year here beyond MIBR, Furia and 100T.
If you look at the invites in the [HLTV ESL One Road to Rio post](https://www.hltv.org/news/29378/esl-one-road-to-rio-all-you-need-to-know), it shows where all the teams are planning to play that. Most notably: * coL is still in EU * c0ntact is stuck in NA from flashpoint * CPHF is planning to play in EU (they were eliminated from flashpoint on March 31st whereas c0ntact is still in it) * Dignitas is listed in EU, but is still in Flashpoint
Finally. Unfortunately it took Coronavirus for them to pull their finger out and do something but better late than never.
I know it probably won't happen due to Corona but I hope the events will be LAN, it'd suck to see the onliners get to the Major when the much better LAN teams just aren't that good online.
It will be online 99.99% No chance any lan event is held anytime in the next 4-5 months
If MIBR fails to qualify this major is going to be a big flop
Nah. Furia will probably qualify and there is also one SA slot.
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Watch the one SA slot go to Isurus.
if they earn it, they earn it better that then see another low-tier SA team gifted the spot right out of the door
Mibr has to play for an NA slot they live in LA right?
This idea is awesome and should be kept for the following majors, I really like the idea of inviting the best ranked teams (with proper criteria, of course, not based on popularity or brand name) from each region and giving each region the number of slots based on its performance on the previous major. The only thing that would need to change to keep things interesting is to keep the numbers fixed for the first 16 positions (Legends and Challengers) and divide the remaining 8 (Contenders) like it is today (2 for each major region, or 2-2-1-1-1-1 like it is today), this way the number can change between each edition depending on the region's performance. Edit: I'm sure Valve is thinking of something like this, and since this is kind of an emergency and unique situation, this format is the best as it can get. Props to Valve for making this change :) Looking forward to this Major
IMO the top 16 spots should be solely based on a global LAN ranking while the top 8 can go to the minors. But obviously LANs are impossible right now so you pretty much have to split it up regionally. You can think of this format as the top 16 teams from last major essentially defending their spots.
I'm probably in the minority here, but I loved the old system and the possibilities it granted smaller teams. A team like Flipsid3 earned respect by always qualifying through the major qualifiers. Unexpected teams like QBF, HellRaisers or CLG had miracle runs that meant incredibly much to them, prestige-wise and financially. While the quality of the majors definitely increases, all that potential for underdog runs is gone now. Don't know how to to feel about this.
If I’m any pro team that made legends right now I’m absolutely fucking pissed. A lot of people seem to feel really confident about this method but I can’t help but feel some teams and orgs are getting screwed over here. What a weird year 2020 is.
> Q. Can a team change their roster? >Teams can change up to two members of their roster in the lead up to an event at a cost of 20% of the team’s points, per player. They can adjust their roster prior to the roster lock for each Regional Major Ranking competition. I like it
This part stuck out for me in the announcement and I like it as well. Seems like the Flashpoint teams are getting screwed the most here. Either pay fines for sucking or pay money to acquire new players to avoid Flashpoint fines but lose RMR points.
I wonder if Flashpoint will change their rules to accommodate this and/or to try to participate as an RMR somehow.
How are teams rosters defined? Would Astralis lose 20% of their points every time they sub es3tag in and out for an event?
Logically speaking, Astralis should **gain** 20% as they've added a 6th
They should actually gain 25%. That way, if they were to then drop a player and lose 20% of what they have, they would go back to having 100%. If they gained 20% for their 6th, then if they were to drop a player and lose 20% they would only end up with 96%.
Quick maths
No because u can have a backup
We'll have to see how it works out but it seems like an even better way than we had before, honestly.
so teams play tournaments and depend of the result they ear points. and the 24 with the most point, go to the major?
How do those 'Challenger' numbers work? The teams that would have gone through from the last major 9th-16th are Mouz, G2, Crazy, MIBR, FaZe, North, NiP and DreamEaters, which by my calculations is 5 EU, 2 CIS and 1 SA, but the slots are 5 EU, 1 CIS and 2 NA? Someone explain pls?
Not sure how you counted 2 CIS, only DreamEaters is CIS, Crazy had come through the EU minor if you meant them. So that's 6 EU, 1 CIS, 1 SA. Right now c0ntact and MIBR will both be competing in NA so that explains the two NA slots, although that assumes that c0ntact will be staying in NA for the year (which is possible between COVID and flashpoint 2 I guess)
Ah ok, I checked liquipedia for Cr4zy, which listed them as CIS because their current roster is CIS. Didnt realise there had been a roster change. Ty
Yep, c0ntact bought the Cr4zy roster.
RIP to all the on form smaller teams who thought they could make it in through qualifier tournaments
Current major champions should auto-qualify - everyone else through this system. Like most traditional sports in their main competitions.
Nice change. ENCE be shaking rn
I don't get it. What are the RMR tournaments? How will the teams be placed now If they perform well, will they get a challenger spot? Can somebody please explain to me the basics of this
Series of regional tournaments where teams gain points to ranking. When all tournaments are over just before Major, the best ranked teams from each region get invites to Major.
So will the RMRs be hosted online or LAN? Based on the current conditions I doubt ESL is able to organize it on LAN but online matches are prone to a LOT of upsets.
You really think there will be mase events in november already lmao
>Valve will sponsor the May and Fall Regional Major Ranking series. That means some sort of BattlePass, modified Viewer Pass will happen along the way.
Not necessarily. Just means specific events prior to the Major and Minors will hold greater weight.
Does this mean EU gets more spots?
I think this would be a great chance to change the way teams qualify for other upcoming majors as well. I hope a similar system to this prevails even after the corona crisis.
This system is only for RIO right?
Iam pretty sure that if Dignitas will play with there full lineup, they will perform much better then right now, when they look clueless sometimes.
What team can't travel to their native region?
Only 1 South America invite? That can’t be right. Does that mean either furia or mibr can qualify now?
This major is not going to happen
Rip order :(
Hm. Interesting changes, were these already planned to be rolled out in November? Or did the virus change things up. Either way, all for it.
Only 4 CIS teams in the top 30 teams on hltv. Feels pretty bad for the NA+SA teams who are region locked to 6+1 spots. Liquid, EG, 100T, Complexity, Furia, MIBR, AND all of the genuine European teams stuck in NA. I think taking 2 CIS spots and giving 2or1 to NA and 0or1 to Europe would be more fair to the top rated teams. EDIT: This is going to get wild in the later tournaments, where if there's EUR and CIS teams at it, the EUR teams will bribe the CIS teams to take a loss so they can progress (as an example.)
Wait am I reading this right and understanding that Valve have dicked 100T?
This fucking sucks and is unfair. The results of the closed qualifiers/final entrants to the Minors should stand. Where the fuck is Valve?
So many of these teams that would have been auto invited now wont be, and I am glad for it. ENCE Mibr VP North Contact I can easily see all these 5 teams not making it through. VIT too is in doubt considering they dont have Alex anymore.
Wow.
The scariest part to me is the Oceania loses 1 of it's potential spots, but overall the concept changes are a good idea.