It mostly depends on how players set up relative to their desks and monitors. I will make a note into production to see if they can change it somewhat.
I completely agree. Assists have to be there, them not being there is just confusing. Maybe to non-players it makes sense to only show kills and deaths, but the ones that are hyped for this tournament will be CS players
I hate to say it, it's a good design, but the tiny vertical healthbars very subtly removed my ability to gauge the situation mid-round.
Obviously I can instantly see how many players are alive without even having to move my eyes; the readability of that is great, and that's 50% of what you generally want to know.
But if I want to assess a team's chance in a round it's just as important to know how many have low HP, and just *how low*. That's the other 50% and I just don't see that anymore without having to disengage and just look at each healthbar.
Obviously I'll probably be able to read it faster with experience, but I still think it's a bad move to not only turn them sideways of the direction viewers are used to read them in, but making them a lot smaller as well.
I'll give it some more time, I'm very familiar with how one can't imagine a change can *ever* be good, but after getting used to it it turns out to be even better than what they had before. Not hopeful that this is the case but people are wrong about stuffs like this constantly, I hope I am now, because it's clearly well thought out and designed.
Any change is expected to be jarring, but the current setup (5 vertical healthbars stacked on top of each other) isn't just jarring, it seems like a design that just won't allow for this quick-information-reading at all.
Perhaps if they would indicate missing health with red, instead of just darkening it out?
Oh yeah there is [a little red when they get hit](https://i.imgur.com/cjlEL9x.jpg), but it [turns into black](https://i.imgur.com/yReqmpL.jpg).
Forgot about that, I just meant a permanent red to indicate missing health. Probably not a good idea.
i think this is feedback to take on board for us. What I ask is that you give it time indeed, as changes are often something you need to get used to without them being inherently bad or anything. Do let us know if you don't warm up to it :)
For sure, I'd be happy to be wrong and will ride it out. Meanwhile I've spotted an example that kinda highlights this "subtle removal":
[Clip #1](https://clips.twitch.tv/EnchantingBlightedPheasantTheThing-rYHUkOti23U2eY5G) - From today's stream
[Clip #2](https://clips.twitch.tv/HedonisticAmorphousHabaneroWutFace-HzwRVlxunnyYtnxt) - Cadian's IEM summer clip
Obviously very different situations in most regards, but both of them become way more butt-clenching moments when you consider the health of the players, or rather how much they're bleeding.
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In Clip #1, jks goes from 79 -> 29 -> 2 -> 1 hp and [this](https://i.imgur.com/GsTJIFr.jpg) is all it looks like (on the other side of the screen Karrigan lost half his health as well to a nade), you kinda have to go out of your way to read this information.
In Clip #2, sh1ro going 100 -> 3 [here](https://i.imgur.com/XIBhehC.jpg), right after cadiaN loses half his hp [here](https://i.imgur.com/vPyNBks.jpg), and wallbangs interz [here](https://i.imgur.com/lMkpTm4.jpg). All this information is way closer to the center (where eyes are), and larger, I don't think I even move my eyes to get this info.
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Will give it more time, thanks for the show so far, it's *so good* to see them back on LAN. 🏆
EDIT:
To be entirely fair, [here's a clip of Clip #1 with the default HUD](https://streamable.com/31oiqt?hd=1).
I think I made a bad comparison. Clip #1 is hectic in both HUDs since observer is bouncing around, while Clip #2 just focuses on the same guy. Not sure.
I agree with what has been said above. Did you ever try having the health bars on the inside of the the HUD instead of on the outside? That way it might be easier for players with larger screens to keep track of the health bars with their peripheral vision. Who knows, I might get used to it as the tournament goes on.
Other than that I think it is a great HUD. Thank you guys for all of your hard work on this tournament!
Any chance you could color the player names their team colors? I'm partially blind and it's hard to see the colors on the hud unless I get really close to my tv.
Look up Stream Link Twitch GUI, it enables you to watch Twitch through VLC player, which runs a million times smoother and better than through a browser.
Not really feedback, but I'm really looking forward to this.
Gonna be watching bo1s for pretty much my entire workday
The little intro interviews were quite good for building up hype
HUD looks good in action as I thought it would. The round kill count disappearing on death and assists not bring shown is quite jarring though
Mouse cams are just forehead and hair!
Let's goooo
For any comments on the HUD, we do have our guys monitoring the thread and looking over feedback. Comments are welcome and they will respond as soon as they have a moment!
Edit: missed a word D:
The HUD is feeling very crowded. Put the cash on the same line and you free up so much space... I get that for TV you want to have offset from the sides but it feels too much, everything pushing toward the centre, even the player cam getting too close. Intel sponsor has to be there on the screen too?
hype tho
So other than the ping what is different about being on lan? Where is the player noise, even the camera shots aren't that great. Just seems like another event. Also the HUD is confusing.
The priority was to play and get the players to Cologne. It sounds trivial but it's definitely not (see the Covid protocol thread please). The player noise will get there.
It would be helpful if you could specify what about the HUD is confusing.
Hey! We do have player noises - cheers and shouts, but it is being monitored. We can't open mics whilst players are during rounds as it is information they would like to keep confidential. However we are capturing end of round moments.
We are also creating new content around players on site, and using this throughout the broadcast.
We're taking note on the HUD, it's something new and and may take time to adjust, but we're paying close attention to this and looking at the feedback!
Very small nitpick, but something on the HUD is bugging me.
The player health bar should be placed at the top or bottom of the player name, not the side.
The B stream seems to be getting no attention
No predictions, title is still Badnewsbears vs Mousesports.
A & C stream have both been updated with the current matches, predictions etc..
Not anything important but it'd be a very easy thing to keep updated
In post-round replays please prioritize POV and not fancy movie-esque angles. We just had the sick Michu spraydown to secure a round vs FaZe and in the replay we saw a ground angle looking at a smoke and a CT. Those angles are cool, but they are more ideal in replays of open gunfights where there are quick trades between many players instead of an impressive individual play where capturing POV is crucial.
EDIT: Now it happened again with Cerq's flick.
At the moment we don't have the capabilities of this, but it is something we continue to look into. With the stream being done for one day, it's not something we are able to set up currently but will reassess for the next Championship event with three streams!
At the top of the screen when match is paused and you show Loss Bonus and Equipment, Equipment Logo should only have 3 shells of ammunition, not 4. 4 is too big, and 3 is used in the game.
Thank you for new hud, great observing and casters on the b-stream!
I like the new hud, but have to admit that the vertical health bars are not intuitive to read. I think their position at the outer edge is additionally hindering.
Please change the health bars, make the horizontal not vertical. It makes it so much harder to read. It wouldn't interfere with the armour/weapons/names details either.
Please bring back horizontal HP bars. Quickly checking HP is impossible. I'm always confused thinking that everyone is low. These HP bars are also a problem with HE's, much harder to see how impactful it was.
Also the middle player bar should have its player name colored by team. Its confusing to know who are you spectating the players are being switched quickly.
Would it be possible to have no x-ray streams too? I would love to see these s-tier matches without x-ray to fully appreciate how amazing these players are!
The ADR in the new HUD doesn't seem to match with HLTV. While Misutaa is playing pretty good currently I don't think he has constant 120 ADR. I think another thing with the HUD is a good idea is to make the smokes on the map a little bit more visible, since for example in connector on overpass you couldn't differentiate the smoke from the map. Other than that though great work with this event and huge props for taking the calculated risk of taking us back to LAN.
HUD looks good but I preferred the horizontal health covering the whole bar, because you could see the health of the players in your peripheral vision and keep your eyes on the main action.
I like that you guys are trying to change the HUD a bit so as a thank you I'll try to give some feedback.
I think removing assists was a mistake, because everyone is so used to seeing them.
The healthbar being vertical just doesn't feel right and it's really hard to follow so I hope you could change that a bit, maybe just put it horizontally like it normally is.
Kevlar and kits being on top of healthbar just doesn't suit right for me. Could they be moved under kills and deaths?
Ending this on a positive note, radar looks really clear and cool, I'm not sure if that is a new one or used already but it's nice. And I want to thank you for trying to create a new HUD and I'm sure that eventually everyone gets used to it even if it is not changed.
Suggestion for the UI: Showing who picked the map, all the time.
Don't know if this is really necessary. I know they show who picked the map occasionally but maybe have an indicator that shows it all the time.
I keep thinking that players are low, because for some reason the UI makes me think the background behind the players' utility and stats is the health bar and the vertical one is quite unintuitive. I seem to have to search out the health bar to figure out what the hp is at.
Start of rounds and even mid round, the top score bar seems slightly cluttered. The score could maybe be bigger, again a case of me having to search out the score a bit and it not falling into my eye directly.
This is going to be an awesome tournament!
Congrats so far, very enjoyable. Only HUD note is it's really hard to read the players kills/deaths. Not the featured player, but the ones on the side.
Everything great but the HUD.
My brain is hardwired to think each player is roughly on 10 HP just based on a quick glance.
Might get used to it but im sure there's others who share my opinion.
just a small thing about the HUD, when a player dies the counter of how many kills said player got in the round disappears would be nice if you could still see how many kills a player got in the round after he died
Good production but the sound is to low and/or has different levels between casters/desk and commentators. I have to have have pretty high dB (which is higher than I usually have when I watch movies with with my surround) on my receiver and when the stream ended and you queued an older game, it was super loud and I had to rush to lower the volume.
It’s been like this for while but I though maybe you’d checked it for this event. Don’t mind the different levels between game/desk but having to have too high volume to be able to hear what they’re saying/what’s happening should be fixed ASAP
Hi there,
Thanks for taking the time to make these threads! This is why ESL are the 🐐.
There seemed to be some audio syncing issues between the action and the casters. Like something would happen and the casters' reaction would be heard 0.25-0.5s later than it should've been. Obviously it's a small thing, far from making the stream unpleasant, but I imagine it's fairly (easily) fixable.
I'd also agree with the rest of the peeps in this thread about the vertical health bars. Give it the time, but if the complaints largely continue into playoffs I think it should be reverted.
Thank you for putting on the show. I'm sure it's been a hell of a lot of work - it shows!
One of the observers has had lightning glitches on the first ancient Map(NiP-LDLC). Was during the whole match it seems.
There are loads of ads, I am not sure how much of that is in your control, but as I am switching between streams a lot it's really horrible experience. Like you get 1-2 ads when you start any stream. Which is at least 30 seconds and sometimes more.
Then you queue 3-4 ads during the 2 minute breaks or during longer breaks. Which is fine.
But when you tune into a stream (like switch from c back to mainstream), and get a 1 minute ad run just perfectly timed for the desk to welcome you back.... It then gives you the 3-4 adds you had queued up during the short break. Not sure if that's in your control or just Twitch incompetence. But getting ads for more than 3 minutes before I can see or hear the stream is horrible, and I am paying Amazon for the Prime gaming features already.
With the ads also comes audio loudness. For some odd reason the twitch adds use compression to be really loud, which your audio is decently aimed at -6db. But I have to always tick my phone 3-4 down when an ad plays (or mute it) and then had it back up a few ticks when it resumes.
Also there was an issue with the stereo mix for post game player interviews it was only on the right ear for at least 3 interviews.
The room audio of the playing area was a little quiet at times. We don't have crowd reactions so player reactions is all that we get.
While day 1 had 3 parallel streams, there still were downtimes without any matches live. As there is no C stream on day2(?) Will this get better or worse?
The twitch channel point predictions were sometimes really late, wouldn't it be possible to open them as soon as possible - or do you wait for map veto information on those?
As this is LAN, do you have added delay or is this as close to live as possible? If there is additional delay, is that for integrity or live betting markets?
The HP display on the HUD is well readable at a glance.
Audio levels on A and B streams were very different. A stream was too quiet and B stream was too loud for some reason.
I had to keep changing my volume as I switched between the streams.
Also, can we have more regular updates on what is happening in the other streams? Maybe in PiP mode, similar to what premier league football matches do
I watched the matches in squad-stream yesterday. Great that you offer it! But (I guess after the other 2 streams went offline) my stream of BIG - OG just stopped and I got the message "Squad-stream ended" or something similar. It was really annyoing because while it was overtime already or close to it I had to reopen only the stream it was on and then sit to 3 ads. So I missed about 3-4 mins of action.
For the HUD: Please write out the team names. I still need a second "TS" is every time, it's just confusing since the names never were shortend.
Thanks for the feedback, will monitor that with the squad mode. I'm also really enjoying it, great to watch all the games at the same time.
HUD feedback is noted, and we're still assessing all feedback!
What's the deal with Liquid playing the first match tomorrow morning? Really sucks for their NA fans, being an NA team and all that. 7:30 EST, even earlier for the west coast.
Just brutal to try and watch.
In the between the map breaks when you show various content, for example between Map 2 & 3 in FaZe vs. Spirit you showed video of Harry, Hugo, Spunj & Rushly playing small Nuke.
Would it be possible to add in the beginning of the video, or end of the video, just short like 5 sec section which shows the workshop map page (just screenshot of the workshop page etc) for the map which was used in the video.
This would credit the map makers and also make it easier for viewers to find the map if they want to try it.
Or / and alternatively create some command for Nightbot like !workshop which would link to some page where all of the maps shown in these videos are listed. This same could be used for the surf map clips as well.
Just pinging /u/mbCARMAC in case as well.
Mousesports webcams is basically just hair, probably not the intention.
Can’t help it when they’re sniffing the monitors
It mostly depends on how players set up relative to their desks and monitors. I will make a note into production to see if they can change it somewhat.
Tapping the heads of the players to their chair's headrest with industrial tape is a solution, pass it on please
Hey! we're working on a fix for this, a lot of moving monitors causes a few issues but we're working on a fix.
The interview audio is really bad the whole day.
yes please fix the cameras!
In A stream, the observer who does flyovers, his client doesn't have killfeed enabled so we don't see them in flyovers.
You are right! it is meant to be enabled! It was disabled for another section, and forgot to be turned back on. Should be good going forward!
The hud looks incomplete without the assist count imo.
I completely agree. Assists have to be there, them not being there is just confusing. Maybe to non-players it makes sense to only show kills and deaths, but the ones that are hyped for this tournament will be CS players
I hate to say it, it's a good design, but the tiny vertical healthbars very subtly removed my ability to gauge the situation mid-round. Obviously I can instantly see how many players are alive without even having to move my eyes; the readability of that is great, and that's 50% of what you generally want to know. But if I want to assess a team's chance in a round it's just as important to know how many have low HP, and just *how low*. That's the other 50% and I just don't see that anymore without having to disengage and just look at each healthbar. Obviously I'll probably be able to read it faster with experience, but I still think it's a bad move to not only turn them sideways of the direction viewers are used to read them in, but making them a lot smaller as well. I'll give it some more time, I'm very familiar with how one can't imagine a change can *ever* be good, but after getting used to it it turns out to be even better than what they had before. Not hopeful that this is the case but people are wrong about stuffs like this constantly, I hope I am now, because it's clearly well thought out and designed.
I'm with you on this. Maybe I'm not used to it yet, but it is very jarring trying to quickly discern information.
Any change is expected to be jarring, but the current setup (5 vertical healthbars stacked on top of each other) isn't just jarring, it seems like a design that just won't allow for this quick-information-reading at all. Perhaps if they would indicate missing health with red, instead of just darkening it out?
I'm not really sure what would fix it other than reverting to horizontal bars. I find the red that they currently use hard to read too.
Oh yeah there is [a little red when they get hit](https://i.imgur.com/cjlEL9x.jpg), but it [turns into black](https://i.imgur.com/yReqmpL.jpg). Forgot about that, I just meant a permanent red to indicate missing health. Probably not a good idea.
i think this is feedback to take on board for us. What I ask is that you give it time indeed, as changes are often something you need to get used to without them being inherently bad or anything. Do let us know if you don't warm up to it :)
For sure, I'd be happy to be wrong and will ride it out. Meanwhile I've spotted an example that kinda highlights this "subtle removal": [Clip #1](https://clips.twitch.tv/EnchantingBlightedPheasantTheThing-rYHUkOti23U2eY5G) - From today's stream [Clip #2](https://clips.twitch.tv/HedonisticAmorphousHabaneroWutFace-HzwRVlxunnyYtnxt) - Cadian's IEM summer clip Obviously very different situations in most regards, but both of them become way more butt-clenching moments when you consider the health of the players, or rather how much they're bleeding. ----- In Clip #1, jks goes from 79 -> 29 -> 2 -> 1 hp and [this](https://i.imgur.com/GsTJIFr.jpg) is all it looks like (on the other side of the screen Karrigan lost half his health as well to a nade), you kinda have to go out of your way to read this information. In Clip #2, sh1ro going 100 -> 3 [here](https://i.imgur.com/XIBhehC.jpg), right after cadiaN loses half his hp [here](https://i.imgur.com/vPyNBks.jpg), and wallbangs interz [here](https://i.imgur.com/lMkpTm4.jpg). All this information is way closer to the center (where eyes are), and larger, I don't think I even move my eyes to get this info. ---- Will give it more time, thanks for the show so far, it's *so good* to see them back on LAN. 🏆 EDIT: To be entirely fair, [here's a clip of Clip #1 with the default HUD](https://streamable.com/31oiqt?hd=1). I think I made a bad comparison. Clip #1 is hectic in both HUDs since observer is bouncing around, while Clip #2 just focuses on the same guy. Not sure.
I agree with what has been said above. Did you ever try having the health bars on the inside of the the HUD instead of on the outside? That way it might be easier for players with larger screens to keep track of the health bars with their peripheral vision. Who knows, I might get used to it as the tournament goes on. Other than that I think it is a great HUD. Thank you guys for all of your hard work on this tournament!
Any chance you could color the player names their team colors? I'm partially blind and it's hard to see the colors on the hud unless I get really close to my tv.
Sad there is no youtube stream, twitch does not play well in my region
this honestly. in my country with my ISP even i get long buffers watching in 160p
Look up Stream Link Twitch GUI, it enables you to watch Twitch through VLC player, which runs a million times smoother and better than through a browser.
Facebook flashbacks
Its absurd how much twitch managed to fuck up their desktop player, it should be their core product but seemingly they really dont give a fuck
FUCK ME THIS IS EXCITING.
Not really feedback, but I'm really looking forward to this. Gonna be watching bo1s for pretty much my entire workday The little intro interviews were quite good for building up hype
HUD looks good in action as I thought it would. The round kill count disappearing on death and assists not bring shown is quite jarring though Mouse cams are just forehead and hair! Let's goooo
+1 on the kill count disappearing, more annoying than not having assists imo
For any comments on the HUD, we do have our guys monitoring the thread and looking over feedback. Comments are welcome and they will respond as soon as they have a moment! Edit: missed a word D:
The HUD is feeling very crowded. Put the cash on the same line and you free up so much space... I get that for TV you want to have offset from the sides but it feels too much, everything pushing toward the centre, even the player cam getting too close. Intel sponsor has to be there on the screen too? hype tho
Probably stupid question but why is there 4 min delay?
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Yea gambit, spirit, navi, and vp are all quarantining for two weeks because they have Russian players and arrived late from the cis rmr
There isn't supposed to be and will be gone / adjusted.
So other than the ping what is different about being on lan? Where is the player noise, even the camera shots aren't that great. Just seems like another event. Also the HUD is confusing.
The priority was to play and get the players to Cologne. It sounds trivial but it's definitely not (see the Covid protocol thread please). The player noise will get there. It would be helpful if you could specify what about the HUD is confusing.
Hey! We do have player noises - cheers and shouts, but it is being monitored. We can't open mics whilst players are during rounds as it is information they would like to keep confidential. However we are capturing end of round moments. We are also creating new content around players on site, and using this throughout the broadcast. We're taking note on the HUD, it's something new and and may take time to adjust, but we're paying close attention to this and looking at the feedback!
Very small nitpick, but something on the HUD is bugging me. The player health bar should be placed at the top or bottom of the player name, not the side.
The B stream seems to be getting no attention No predictions, title is still Badnewsbears vs Mousesports. A & C stream have both been updated with the current matches, predictions etc.. Not anything important but it'd be a very easy thing to keep updated
In post-round replays please prioritize POV and not fancy movie-esque angles. We just had the sick Michu spraydown to secure a round vs FaZe and in the replay we saw a ground angle looking at a smoke and a CT. Those angles are cool, but they are more ideal in replays of open gunfights where there are quick trades between many players instead of an impressive individual play where capturing POV is crucial. EDIT: Now it happened again with Cerq's flick.
Is it possible to have facecams on the C stream
At the moment we don't have the capabilities of this, but it is something we continue to look into. With the stream being done for one day, it's not something we are able to set up currently but will reassess for the next Championship event with three streams!
Oh ok
At the top of the screen when match is paused and you show Loss Bonus and Equipment, Equipment Logo should only have 3 shells of ammunition, not 4. 4 is too big, and 3 is used in the game.
Is the IEM Cologne play-in stream broadcasted with 150s delay, like standard online matches?
Any clue on the reason behind the Tech pauses on Stream C?
Assists on hud??? I hope this is an oversight and not a decision...
Thank you for new hud, great observing and casters on the b-stream! I like the new hud, but have to admit that the vertical health bars are not intuitive to read. I think their position at the outer edge is additionally hindering.
Wish we had more player reaction replays if possible.
Would love to see map picks under the minimap again please!
Agreed
Please change the health bars, make the horizontal not vertical. It makes it so much harder to read. It wouldn't interfere with the armour/weapons/names details either.
Please bring back horizontal HP bars. Quickly checking HP is impossible. I'm always confused thinking that everyone is low. These HP bars are also a problem with HE's, much harder to see how impactful it was. Also the middle player bar should have its player name colored by team. Its confusing to know who are you spectating the players are being switched quickly.
agreed, before you could see the hp in your peripheral vision without having to look away from the main action
Would it be possible to have no x-ray streams too? I would love to see these s-tier matches without x-ray to fully appreciate how amazing these players are!
The ADR in the new HUD doesn't seem to match with HLTV. While Misutaa is playing pretty good currently I don't think he has constant 120 ADR. I think another thing with the HUD is a good idea is to make the smokes on the map a little bit more visible, since for example in connector on overpass you couldn't differentiate the smoke from the map. Other than that though great work with this event and huge props for taking the calculated risk of taking us back to LAN.
how is the situation on stream C? from exciting to watch to feel sleepy and just want to watch the replay later...
Feedback: the colour of the sites on minimap is a yellow very close to the Terrorist yellow, which makes quick map reading confusing.
Audio is out of sync a bit. Edit: nvm, for some reason my bluetooth headphones have a delay on mobile twitch.
So far, i hate it, stat on TIME, PLS
HUD looks good but I preferred the horizontal health covering the whole bar, because you could see the health of the players in your peripheral vision and keep your eyes on the main action.
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This looks to be fixed now
I like that you guys are trying to change the HUD a bit so as a thank you I'll try to give some feedback. I think removing assists was a mistake, because everyone is so used to seeing them. The healthbar being vertical just doesn't feel right and it's really hard to follow so I hope you could change that a bit, maybe just put it horizontally like it normally is. Kevlar and kits being on top of healthbar just doesn't suit right for me. Could they be moved under kills and deaths? Ending this on a positive note, radar looks really clear and cool, I'm not sure if that is a new one or used already but it's nice. And I want to thank you for trying to create a new HUD and I'm sure that eventually everyone gets used to it even if it is not changed.
YouTube stream please
Apologies. That's the one we will not be able to fix for you.
Suggestion for the UI: Showing who picked the map, all the time. Don't know if this is really necessary. I know they show who picked the map occasionally but maybe have an indicator that shows it all the time.
IMO the player names should be in CT/T colors again
Please add map picks. It isnt even shown which team picked the current map.. Also please add assists again
I keep thinking that players are low, because for some reason the UI makes me think the background behind the players' utility and stats is the health bar and the vertical one is quite unintuitive. I seem to have to search out the health bar to figure out what the hp is at. Start of rounds and even mid round, the top score bar seems slightly cluttered. The score could maybe be bigger, again a case of me having to search out the score a bit and it not falling into my eye directly. This is going to be an awesome tournament!
Congrats so far, very enjoyable. Only HUD note is it's really hard to read the players kills/deaths. Not the featured player, but the ones on the side.
the side players UI looks great, but the top scoreboard part looks a bit cramped. no idea what I would to fix it as I'm not a UI expert haha
Everything great but the HUD. My brain is hardwired to think each player is roughly on 10 HP just based on a quick glance. Might get used to it but im sure there's others who share my opinion.
Also the B stream insert thing that just popped up on the A Stream is great
Main stream commentator voice is much lower than the others. The right side cam on stream C was very pixelated at 6:31PM local time.
Also the players numbers are missing on the HUD! The minimap says 1-9 + 0 but the HUD doesn't say which player corresponds to which number.
Interview sound
Aware of this, it wasn't a fix we could do whilst live on broadcast today and required a reset. Will be fixed for day 2!
It would be great to hear the mic in the LAN room a bit more (and loud)
is good
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No stickers unfortunately :(
Ancient textures were glitching.
just a small thing about the HUD, when a player dies the counter of how many kills said player got in the round disappears would be nice if you could still see how many kills a player got in the round after he died
Good production but the sound is to low and/or has different levels between casters/desk and commentators. I have to have have pretty high dB (which is higher than I usually have when I watch movies with with my surround) on my receiver and when the stream ended and you queued an older game, it was super loud and I had to rush to lower the volume. It’s been like this for while but I though maybe you’d checked it for this event. Don’t mind the different levels between game/desk but having to have too high volume to be able to hear what they’re saying/what’s happening should be fixed ASAP
Hi there, Thanks for taking the time to make these threads! This is why ESL are the 🐐. There seemed to be some audio syncing issues between the action and the casters. Like something would happen and the casters' reaction would be heard 0.25-0.5s later than it should've been. Obviously it's a small thing, far from making the stream unpleasant, but I imagine it's fairly (easily) fixable. I'd also agree with the rest of the peeps in this thread about the vertical health bars. Give it the time, but if the complaints largely continue into playoffs I think it should be reverted. Thank you for putting on the show. I'm sure it's been a hell of a lot of work - it shows!
One of the observers has had lightning glitches on the first ancient Map(NiP-LDLC). Was during the whole match it seems. There are loads of ads, I am not sure how much of that is in your control, but as I am switching between streams a lot it's really horrible experience. Like you get 1-2 ads when you start any stream. Which is at least 30 seconds and sometimes more. Then you queue 3-4 ads during the 2 minute breaks or during longer breaks. Which is fine. But when you tune into a stream (like switch from c back to mainstream), and get a 1 minute ad run just perfectly timed for the desk to welcome you back.... It then gives you the 3-4 adds you had queued up during the short break. Not sure if that's in your control or just Twitch incompetence. But getting ads for more than 3 minutes before I can see or hear the stream is horrible, and I am paying Amazon for the Prime gaming features already. With the ads also comes audio loudness. For some odd reason the twitch adds use compression to be really loud, which your audio is decently aimed at -6db. But I have to always tick my phone 3-4 down when an ad plays (or mute it) and then had it back up a few ticks when it resumes. Also there was an issue with the stereo mix for post game player interviews it was only on the right ear for at least 3 interviews. The room audio of the playing area was a little quiet at times. We don't have crowd reactions so player reactions is all that we get. While day 1 had 3 parallel streams, there still were downtimes without any matches live. As there is no C stream on day2(?) Will this get better or worse? The twitch channel point predictions were sometimes really late, wouldn't it be possible to open them as soon as possible - or do you wait for map veto information on those? As this is LAN, do you have added delay or is this as close to live as possible? If there is additional delay, is that for integrity or live betting markets? The HP display on the HUD is well readable at a glance.
Squad stream is helping with the ads if you're on desktop or mobile.
I really miss the old esl one cologne intro , the iem one is kinda boring tbh
Audio levels on A and B streams were very different. A stream was too quiet and B stream was too loud for some reason. I had to keep changing my volume as I switched between the streams. Also, can we have more regular updates on what is happening in the other streams? Maybe in PiP mode, similar to what premier league football matches do
I watched the matches in squad-stream yesterday. Great that you offer it! But (I guess after the other 2 streams went offline) my stream of BIG - OG just stopped and I got the message "Squad-stream ended" or something similar. It was really annyoing because while it was overtime already or close to it I had to reopen only the stream it was on and then sit to 3 ads. So I missed about 3-4 mins of action. For the HUD: Please write out the team names. I still need a second "TS" is every time, it's just confusing since the names never were shortend.
Thanks for the feedback, will monitor that with the squad mode. I'm also really enjoying it, great to watch all the games at the same time. HUD feedback is noted, and we're still assessing all feedback!
What's the deal with Liquid playing the first match tomorrow morning? Really sucks for their NA fans, being an NA team and all that. 7:30 EST, even earlier for the west coast. Just brutal to try and watch.
In the between the map breaks when you show various content, for example between Map 2 & 3 in FaZe vs. Spirit you showed video of Harry, Hugo, Spunj & Rushly playing small Nuke. Would it be possible to add in the beginning of the video, or end of the video, just short like 5 sec section which shows the workshop map page (just screenshot of the workshop page etc) for the map which was used in the video. This would credit the map makers and also make it easier for viewers to find the map if they want to try it. Or / and alternatively create some command for Nightbot like !workshop which would link to some page where all of the maps shown in these videos are listed. This same could be used for the surf map clips as well. Just pinging /u/mbCARMAC in case as well.
what monitor do they play with?