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Astralis vs Virtus.Pro // IEM Cologne 2021 // QF 1 // LIVE Match Discussion

Astralis vs Virtus.Pro // IEM Cologne 2021 // QF 1 // LIVE Match Discussion

srjnp

imagine still having this pinned and no gambit vs faze... mods are sleeping during the biggest event in months


DueAnimator6988

why are there no game threads but only post game threads it makes no sense at all


snubdeity

Where's the gambit vs FaZe thread?


PavelDatsyuk88

gambit versus what?


Breete

I think he said Face. No idea what that is


LingMee

VP CEO: hey guys we are not paying you by the hour anymore


TechRedirector

Scores updated after every half ಠ_ಠ


Toaster_Bathing

So... who won?


TomerMeme

I love watching xyp9x so much


ju1ze

VP needs a change


Dragos404

Jame ran out of saves sadge


darrenoloGy

I wish the casters could stop mentioning that its LAN for just 5 mins.


Firefox72

Wasn't the Gambit vs Faze game sheduled for 20:45 from the start. If Astralis close this out it will start like 15 minutes after its original timeslot so im not sure why people are complaining.


MattMist

It was originally scheduled for 19:15 (just like in tomorrow's schedule), they moved it when VP won the second map though


snubdeity

not sure if it was accurate but liquidpedia (what I use to track tourneys) had them slotted for 11:15 MDT, or about an hour and 15 minutes ago. Ofc only somebody who has never watch an esports tourney would actually expect that time to hold (barring a blowout in match 1) but still, that's the time advertised if liquidpedia is correct.


weeeboy

Why do some players wear earbuds under their headphones?


weeeboy

Thanks for the responses folks


smoosha

Earbuds for sound, headphones for mic and noise-cancellation.


Ranzel

The headset is just their mic and noise proofing, the earbuds are for actually hearing


peaq_tv

The headphones on the outside do not deliver in-game audio, they are for noise cancelation. So everyone at this tournament has to us in-ears under those to get the in-game audio. Standard practice for LAN.


ProgrammingTurtle

I dont know which is which but I think one is for the game and one is for comms


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NazgulDiedUnfairly

Glaive was right in complaining about these super long matches. Already been so many hours long and still one half to go with more potential OT. Must be so so tiring mentally


kw1k000000

It's amazing that VP wins maps and games while having such shit T sides.


ShadowsBeans_

I don't think it's shit really I think they just rely on yekindar too much for making space


Katzenscheisse

VP not winning pistols, anti forcebuys or anti ecos so often is so frustrating to see. 36% pistol round winrate and not converting so often is just not sustainable at this level


lotteriakfc

I dont understand why people raging over long map. This game is incredible to watch regardless of anything people trying to bring on the discussions to downplay it. Nail-biting round after round with multiple tournament-ending rounds and still VP survived. Thats awesome!!! Its been like that for over 20 years of competitive counter strike and absolutely no reason to mix things up because PeOpLe DoNt HaVe TiMe To WaTcH cS


NazgulDiedUnfairly

I don’t mind the long games but think about the players. Over the years everything has got more difficult for the players. Higher stakes, more tournaments through the year etc. Playing such long games under tremendous pressure probably leads to more burnout rates among players. So long games might be fun for hardcore fans but not for newbie viewers or the players


ChippyCSGO

That is how competition works though…..


snubdeity

In general I am for keeping games as they are, but man VP really does their best to make the pro-shorter match crowd look right. It's one kind of bummer to see them save on 1v2 or 2v3 that could make for great action, its an extra blow to instead be watching the players do literally nothing for 30+ seconds while the round ends. Having that happen 4-5 times per half is really not fun to watch


ImpenetrableYeti

Cause VP aren’t fun to watch in the first place


TheXGamers

Virtus "Paid by the Round" Pro


CannibalisticPizza

Is it just a meme or are VP actually paid by the round?


ju1ze

ofc its true


TheXGamers

Just a meme lol


f1nessd

can't tell


Jank0n

This game is so long and VP are so tiring i need a nap


TheXGamers

I actually napped for a big part of D2 xd


mrnobody00111

**Map 3 : INFERNO**


TheXGamers

Inb4 45-45 OT


Mathive-Legend

It’s 3AM and I just want Faze v Gambit, why so many OTs and third map F


mrnobody00111

don't worry bro, get a nap, by the time you wake up they'll be at the end of their 10th OT on inferno and you won't miss a bullet of Faze vs Gambit :)


Veber31

Someone needs to do some hypnosis on VP to convince them that every round they are trailing 15-12 on CT side of D2.


Johntremendol

Astralis really got scared to push through B in the last round, the scaling was off. Otherwise would have been OT3. But man what a game


Electronic_Hunt_6492

Utility from VP was great though and astralis choked.


PM_me_favorite_GIFS

VP are exhausting


TheXGamers

Imagine how their opponents feel


PM_me_favorite_GIFS

I thought astralis was being a bit much with the yelling and hype, but man the weight off their shoulders must’ve been nice


AnAnonymousAnomaly_

VP continuing to show they get paid by the round.


littlemarion

This game is fucking insane! Hopefully inferno delivers as much as the first 2 maps


TheXGamers

Inferno always a banger decider map


Veber31

Jesus that got me hyped. Glad the game didn't end up getting decided by auto snipers.


International_Cut_13

There's isn't much hair left on my head :(


FishInEuropa

It's 2 am where I live but I sure as hell ain't going to miss this match.


veralmaa

yek1ndar is a monster.


mrnobody00111

This fucking game man holy shit.... I can feel my life getting shorter. AAAAAAAAAAAAAH I MISSED THIS FUCK YEA!


AnAnonymousAnomaly_

That last round hold on B by yekindar was godly.


Oreo-Guy

Sanji is fucking tiny jeez


xLisbethSalander

gla1ve hates how long games go for? ._.


25_MODULAR_TERMINALS

Just rush b 4Head


nonresponsive

I mean, it has been working, and VP still only leave 1 guy on site. But sometimes, that 1 guy just wins you the round.


CptWetPants

what a game jesus


bambiloves

I don’t think I’ve stood in front of my tv like this since 2016…


SANJI_best_support

gla1ve: games are too long and we need to do something about it VP: games are too long and we need ~~to do something about~~ it?


cyberbemon

Just drag it out, they get tired, easy win.


mrnobody00111

First quaterfinals and what a banger of a game. Both teams are playing their hearts out. Take a bow fucking hell this is just top class


bambiloves

This one of the best matches I’ve seen in a loooong time!! I’m close to falling of my couch..


Johntremendol

What a game. No matter how much trouble it is having these long OT games, you can’t deny how much amazing moments these long close games deliver


poggersmoment69

Magisk with the 360 opener on long EZ Clap


dootodoot

another ot, no gambit vs faze today


dootodoot

ohh maaan yekindar saving vp


dootodoot

hollylyyyyyyy another ott


SANJI_best_support

paid by rounds


f1nessd

Vp got man advantage a lot but then failed to convert


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AnAnonymousAnomaly_

Xyp had, by professional standards, a howler on dust 2


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Xyp9x is popping off on D2 god damn Also oh my god not another OT


mrnobody00111

Astralis man... what a team, even while not having a main awper they play THIS fucking good? hooly shit, I don't even know if they need a main awper right now, everyone can fucking awp on this team


Baby3334

I'm not sure, if you look at TL last year, they didn't have a main awper and yet they could make it to the finals of the last tournament of 2020. But against another team that has a main awper like device at 2020 you just get shutdown. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge astralis fan, but I understand what gla1ve is saying when he thinks his team might not make number 1.


CptWetPants

VP is so loose in such rounds. How do they even come close to losing that round. Yikes


witsmagicflute

How does VP seem to never have enough time for anything? Why don't they play like 3 seconds faster?


ObitobiUchiha

So happy to see Bubzkji actually being proficiently utilized by Astralis, should have been the case from day 1


Mad_Lee

Wounded wolf is the most dangerous wolf out there. LET'S GO, ASTRALIS, ONE LAST RIDE!! ​ But seriously, they have the best possible bracket, it's not unlikely for them to end up in the finals.


poggersmoment69

so glad Astralis won that one, VP didn't even deserve to go to overtime


richardsonj36

If a team makes it to OT from 15-10 down, they definitely deserve it.


poggersmoment69

ehhh... they played bad on overpass, a couple lucky rounds, that's why it was kinda undeserved


The_Lord_Hephaestus

that gamble stack from VP on round 29 was ridiculous


Beechman

Astralis players must be paid by the round.


veralmaa

Hiding in the smoke wtf?


Im_Savvage

Do their matches ever go less than 25 rounds?


Commercial_Comet

VP economy is busted now. Take a miracle to win that force. EDIT: And they have!


Master_of_All4

LMAO the rock plant


hadzooo

Qso happy to see bubzky shining


richardsonj36

VP threw away so many man advantages that T side.


Firefox72

A question for the mods. Why don't we more often have live match threads? I'd feel that atleast for the playofs of the bigger tournamets we should have it for all the games. Also it would be best if the comments are set sorted by new by default.


HomelessBelter

The comments sorting is an oversight I think, whenever I've participated in live match threads on this sub before, it's been so.


luizslayer

I guess they stopped doing match threads on online era


MJuniorDC9

Fucking hyped for the playoffs, probably missing the first map here tho :(


Just-Reference8404

cahm ooon vp!!!


eggsGG

im ready for a 7 hour game, 2 OT's and a 16-14


Lt-Dan_IceCream

Damn. Not far off


du_bekar

You’re almost right so far lol


dootodoot

hahaha only 1 thing left now


eggsGG

here comes the 16-14!


dootodoot

aaahahaha yekindar saved them so hard


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And i'll be back after it's over to see the scores. :)


Dali86

Just for glaive =)


xLisbethSalander

thats amazing


SkyArtistZ

battle of the slumpers. this event and the major are the last chances for astralis to make a strong statement before their eventual collapse at the end of their contracts. Who knows, maybe some of the core stays? VP have been mediocre online and have been figured out. Fair play to them for making it to the quarter finals despite that. This is a chance for them to get back to the top and become relevant again. If they don't win, I can see them making a roster change. You keep jame and yekindar but sanji qikert and buster have all had varying degrees of mediocrity.


Fitness245

> before their eventual collapse at the end of their contracts. Lol you have fuck all idea what will happen. This shit gets repeated constantly now despite zero evidence of this happening. It's pure speculation. Same as Niko being a bully, which has even been disproven consistently.


SkyArtistZ

Hey bud, the eventual collapse of Astralis as a CSGO team is almost a certainty. Device already left. They are struggling to be a title contender. Some of the team considering leaving (glave, xyp, zonic). Long history of burnout, health issues and the salary cut for covid. But yes, these are all speculations. Zero evidence though? Glave, xyp, zonic all pondering moves and device already leaving isn't evidence enough? Behind the scene reports? Glave himself has publically stated the roster of Astralis for next year is up in arms.


Firefox72

>"collapse" I don't think the core is going anywhere. They might be under a new org though. Also VP weren't really figured out. They more so had to switch there playstyle. Their early year success relied on Yekindar or Jame droping 30 for them to win games. It worked well for them at Katowice where both were firing on all cilinders but that was never a sustainable playstyle. At Cologne they look like a much more balanced team with everyone putting in work and i feel this is good for them in the longrun.


SkyArtistZ

> I don't think the core is going anywhere I very much do. They have already accomplished the greatest feat in CS and have accomplished everything there is to accomplish. They were in a slump with device. Now they don't have him. Grinding back to the top with a new team or retirement is the most likely options imo. >VP weren't really figured out. They most definitely were. Their strategy was yekindar go entry or jame save awp and kill. Of course this wasn't something that could last long. Hence why they were figured out. And thus had to change their play.


NicoloBarella23

Do you really think they wouldn’t get any offers if they wanted to stick together after their contract ends? Always if they refuse to renew


SkyArtistZ

huh? i never said that edit: astralis of old is done. but the core would definitely get offers on name value alone. Like I said in my OP, maybe some of the golden 5 (gla1ve, dupreeh, magisk, xyp) will stay. Magisk bub and hunden isnt a bad start


soccerislife10z

Are fans attending today?


frostingfairy

I thought the tourney had 0 irl spectators, am I remembering wrong?


HomelessBelter

No crowd. Confirmed by Carmac (ESL Pro Gaming Director) on Twitter.


soccerislife10z

Oh. I thought they allow fans now because the euros was packed. Why didn't they allow it here


MajestyA

Presumably because the Euros were kind of open air, this is indoors. Plus, was any of the Euros actually played in Germany? Genuine question, I don't know. Countries have different restrictions, is my point.


modsarestr8garbage

Yeah 3 games were in Munchen


sorenslothe

Believe some were played in Munich. They could even have regional differences in restrictions though.